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0:00My husband has informed me he intends to go on a gaycation with his brother-in-law in Ibiza.我丈夫已经告诉我 他打算和伊比萨的姐夫去同性恋
0:06How do I handle this?我怎么处理?
0:07First of all, gaycation.首先,同性恋。
0:09I'm not going to jump to conclusions or make any assumptions,我不会马上做出结论或假设
0:11but a gaycation sounds like a vacation for gay people.但同性恋听起来像是同性恋的假期
0:15And your husband is going with your brother-你丈夫要跟你哥哥去...
0:18with his brother-in-law.与弟-.
0:19Isn't your husband's brother-in-law your brother?你丈夫的姐夫不是你哥哥吗?
0:21Or what?还是什么?
0:21How do I handle this?我怎么处理?
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1My husband has informed me he intends to go on a gaycation with his brother-in-law in Ibiza.我丈夫已经告诉我 他打算和伊比萨的姐夫去同性恋
2How do I handle this?我怎么处理?
3First of all, gaycation.首先,同性恋。
4I'm not going to jump to conclusions or make any assumptions,我不会马上做出结论或假设
5but a gaycation sounds like a vacation for gay people.但同性恋听起来像是同性恋的假期
6And your husband is going with your brother-你丈夫要跟你哥哥去...
7with his brother-in-law.与弟-.
8Isn't your husband's brother-in-law your brother?你丈夫的姐夫不是你哥哥吗?
9Or what?还是什么?
10How do I handle this?我怎么处理?
11First of all, is your husband gay?首先 你丈夫是同性恋吗?
12Because bro, no one just goes on a gaycation.因为兄弟,没有人只是去同性恋。
13Hi there, I really wish I didn't have to make this post, but here goes.你好,我真的希望我没有 做这个职位,但这里去。
14So me and my husband have been happily married for about 16 years, give or take.因此我和我丈夫 结婚约16年了, 互不相舍。
1516 years is a long time, but I mean, it makes sense.16年是很长的时间,但我的意思是,这是有道理的。
16They're like 42 years old.他们像42岁。
17We both have stable careers, good family life, and are fairly fortunate,我们都有稳定的事业,良好的家庭生活, 很幸运,
18despite the cost of living racking the UK right now.尽管现在英国的生活费用很高
19Okay, honestly, this is starting to make a lot more sense.好吧,说实话,这开始 更有意义。
20They are British, and he's going on a gaycation to Ibiza.他们是英国人,他要去伊比萨
21It's starting to align more.它开始更加对齐。
22We have two boys, 15 and 10, and up until his-我们有两个男孩,15和10, 直到他...
23and up until this Sunday, thought we had it pretty good.一直到这个星期天 都觉得我们玩得很开心
24Yo, actually, I don't know why this story just recently reminded me.哟,实际上,我不知道为什么这个故事 只是提醒了我。
25I remember seeing this podcast of this guy that's like secretly gay,我记得我见过一个播客 这个家伙像秘密的同性恋,
26and his wife didn't know.他的妻子却不知道。
27Like I was listening to the podcast because he was like calling anonymously就像我在听播客 因为他喜欢匿名打电话
28into this podcast, I guess, and they were interviewing him.我猜他们正在采访这个播客
29And this guy said he would like have intercourse with like multiple men a day,这家伙说他想每天和多个男人做爱
30sometimes even eight men, and it would be every single week.有时候甚至有八个人 每周都会有
31He would just have intercourse, cheat on his wife so much.他只会做爱 欺骗他老婆
32He had kids, he had like a great house.他有孩子,他的房子不错
33He was like, he seemed like a real macho man, all this stuff.他就像,他看起来像一个真正的男子汉, 所有这些东西。
34But he would be sleeping with dudes up to 8, 10 a day,但他会和男人上床 每天8,10,
35multiple throughout the week, all the time.整个星期,所有的时间。
36And it was really like-这就像...
37I think it was one of the most shocking things I've ever heard.我觉得那是我听过最令人震惊的事之一
38Bro, go watch that after this video.哥哥,看完这段录像就去吧
39It was crazy, it was crazy.太疯狂了 太疯狂了
40We argue sometimes, of course, but never gotten too bad.我们有时会争吵,当然, 但从来没有变得太糟糕。
41And we have a pretty decent sex life with some exploration,我们有一个相当体面的性生活 与一些探索,
42but I won't get into that.但我不会进去的
43I'm curious if he's asked you to peg him.我好奇他有没有叫你把他绑起来
44Long and short is on Sunday, just after I dropped our boys off at their friends,长而短是星期天, 就在我把我们的男孩 离开他们的朋友,
45my husband asked me if we had the house alone.我丈夫问我 房子是否单独存在
46And more importantly, do I have a minute?更重要的是,我有时间吗?
47I said yes, and he sat me down,我说是的 他让我坐下来
48then got out his printed poster for some sort of orgy然后拿出他的印刷海报 某种狂欢
49and started explaining to me the concept of a gaycation.并开始向我解释同性恋的概念。
50How it's where straight men go to somewhere with sun, sand and booze如何是直人去的地方 有太阳,沙子和酒
51and become gay.成为同性恋。
52What the f-这...
53This is actually really interesting, and this is a long story.这其实是很有趣的, 说来话长。
54This whole video is just this one story, so strap in, dude.这整个视频只是一个故事, 所以绑在,伙计。
55将作野 wild.
56And become gay for the duration of the trip.并在旅途中成为同性恋.
57But that's fine because it doesn't actually count但没关系,因为实际上不算
58because what happens on gaycation stays on gaycation.因为在同性恋上发生的事情 总是发生在同性恋上
59That's like a direct quote from him.这就像一个直接引用 从他。
60What the hell?什么情况?
61I was just completely silent and mortified.我只是完全沉默和痛苦。
62Even more so when he said he was looking into booking a trip to Ibiza更是这样,当他说他打算 预订一次去伊比萨的旅行
63next year with his brother-in-law, his sister's husband,明年和他姐夫,他姐姐的丈夫,
64to experience it for himself.亲身体验
65Okay, his sister's husband.好吧,他姐姐的丈夫。
66When he finally let me speak, I just said,当他终于让我说话时 我只是说
67I need him to be clear with me.我需要他跟我讲清楚
68Is he gay?他是同性恋吗?
69Because if yes, that's okay.因为如果是,那没关系。
70But we need to figure out what happens going forward.但我们需要弄清楚接下来会发生什么。
71I didn't let myself get angry or upset.我没有让自己生气或不安。
72I was just stunned.我被吓坏了。
73He swore up and down he's not gay.他上下发誓他不是同性恋
74And he's 100% attracted to women.他100%的被女人吸引。
75And of course, still loves me and our boys.当然,还爱我和我们的孩子。
76So I said, well, do you think you're bi maybe?所以我说,好吧, 你觉得你可能是双人?
77And he got very defensive, saying how I need to drop the accusations他非常防守 说我需要放弃指控
78and that this is the beauty of the gaycation.这就是同性恋的美
79It allows straight men to experience gayness without actually being gay它允许直男体验同性恋 而不是真正的同性恋
80and how it's like going to an aquarium.还有去水族馆的滋味
81Stop the cap.停止盖。
82And again, he was adamant.再说一遍,他很执着
83He doesn't find men's bodies or genitalia exciting at all.他不觉得男人的身体或生殖器令人兴奋
84But he needs to experience this apparently.但他显然需要经历这个
85I said, well, I'm not really comfortable because even if he was bi,我说 我不太舒服 因为即使他是双胞胎
86this would be explicitly cheating on me.这显然是在欺骗我
87And he got angry and reiterated he's not他生气了,重申他不是
88because that's the beauty of the gaycation, etc.因为这是同性恋的美,等等。
89I just had enough and left the room.我只是受够了,离开了房间。
90Dude, this just sounds like some like pyramid scheme marketing pit.伙计 这听起来就像金字塔计划营销坑
91That's the beauty of it.这就是它的美丽。
92You can go do whatever, but it doesn't count.你可以去做什么,但这并不重要。
93And actually recently this post from like this wellness clinic其实最近这个帖子是像这个健康诊所
94or something in Brazil that is offering body count reset procedures.或在巴西提供身体计数程序的东西。
95It's like some voodoo shaman stuff where they like throw like some这就像一些巫术沙曼的东西 他们喜欢扔的地方像一些
96leaves on you like burn some stuff and they're like your body count is now zero.你身上的叶子就像烧一些东西 它们就像你的身体计数是零
97What?你说什么?
98Scientifically, that's not how it works.在科学上,这不是它的工作方式。
99It's giving the same vibe like, oh, it also costs a thousand US dollars for that.也花了一千美元。
100A thousand US dollars, which honestly, I feel like it's pretty cheap.一千美元,老实说,我觉得很便宜
101If I was going to charge someone body count reset, ten grand minimum.如果我要向某个人收取重置费 至少一万
102I ignored him for the rest of the day.余日不理他处.
103But we spoke at tea where I again asked him, why does he want to do this so bad?但是在茶会上我又问他 为什么他要这样
104If he's not gay, I was like just confused.如果他不是同性恋,我就像只是困惑。
105They spoke at tea and I'm like, oh, wait, they're British.他们在茶上说话,我说,哦,等等,他们是英国人。
106This is weird because I might be a shocker, but as a straight man myself,这很奇怪,因为我可能是一个震惊, 但作为一个直人自己,
107I would never ever consider a gaycation as something like, oh, wow, let's go.我永远不会把同性恋当成是,哦,哇,我们走吧。
108Like I know what I'm attracted to and stuff就像我知道自己喜欢什么一样
109and I know what I'm not attracted to and I wouldn't do it just for the beauty of the gaycation.我知道自己对什么不感兴趣 也不只是为了同性恋的美
110So this guy is minimum at minimum by这家伙起码是最少的
111or he's in the closet, which would make him gay.或者他在衣柜里 那会让他变成同性恋
112He said he's interested in how gay's men lives differ to straight men's他说他很关心同性恋的 生活与直系男性的不同
113and that's unfortunately, once the gaycation begins, it's simply impossible for a man to resist可惜的是,一旦同性恋开始 一个人根本无法抗拒
114and he must surrender himself, mind, body and soul to the gaycation or be destroyed.他必须把自己、心灵、肉体和灵魂 交给同性恋或被毁灭
115I really can't put it into words how surreal it was我真的不能把它在言语中 如何超现实
116because he was speaking so matter-of-factly and he again insists因为他说得如此实事求是 他再次坚持
117and he again insists that this is a thing straight men do all the time他再次坚持说这是直男常做的事
118and how he's actually doing it a bit late.和如何他实际上做的 有点晚了。
119I just told him that if he has any love for me, then he can't go ahead with this我只是告诉他,如果他有任何 爱我,那么他不能继续这个
120and if he does, the marriage will be dead.如果他这样做, 婚姻会死。
121As you should, bro, this is not even like,你应该的 兄弟 这根本不像
122it's not even unreasonable on your part or anything.这对你来说甚至不是不合理的。
123This is like the bare minimum, bro.这就像最低的,兄弟。
124You do this, we're done.你这样做,我们结束了。
125No arguing, no fussing, no begging him, no saying, please, let's try to compromise.不要争吵,不要大惊小怪,不要求他, 不要说,请,让我们尝试妥协。
126You do this, we're done.你这样做,我们结束了。
127Simple, dude, simple.很简单,伙计,很简单
128He didn't speak anymore after that.此后他不再说话.
129Since then, he's mentioned no more of it, but somehow,从那以后,他再也没提过,但不知怎么的,
130and this is what scares me a lot too,这也是我非常害怕的原因
131that decision genuinely seems to be tearing him up.那决定真的让他心碎了
132He didn't go into work on Monday and only went in half a day yesterday他星期一没去上班,昨天才去了半天
133because he told me he just felt too ill因为他告诉我,他只是觉得不舒服
134and he just looks distraught every time I see him.每次我见到他 他看起来都很不爽
135Yeah, he's definitely, he's trying to guilt trip you.是啊,他肯定,他试图 内疚绊倒你。
136Dude, do not fall for this, do not waver, do not think,老兄,不要爱上这个, 不要动摇,不要想,
137maybe it won't be too bad.也许不会太糟
138Dude, it's cheating.老兄,这是作弊。
139It's cheating and your husband is closeted.这是欺骗,你的丈夫关闭。
140Even if he doesn't go,就算他不走,我也不会去
141is your marriage ever going to be the same as your relationship going to be the same after this?你们的婚姻会跟你的关系一样吗?
142So you probably need therapy and you have kids,所以你可能需要治疗 和你有孩子,
143so I'm sure you don't want to just leave your kids所以,我敢肯定,你不想 离开你的孩子
144and cause them to live in like a separated household, you know?让他们像离散的家庭一样生活
145I really don't think he's wholly gay though.我真的不认为他是完全同性恋。
146I can absolutely believe he's bi,我绝对相信他是双胞胎
147but I'd rather have talked about that in a healthy way但我宁愿以健康的方式谈这个
148rather than this incredibly weird denialism around going on a sex holiday to Ibiza.而不是这种令人难以置信的怪异的否认主义 围绕着去伊比萨的性节日。
149Has anyone known straight guys to do this and come back and just go back to being straight?有没有人知道直男会这么做 回来做直男?
150Like surely that can't be a thing that happens.肯定不会发生这种事
151It's cheating, even if you're okay with like him being bi or gay or whatever,这是作弊,即使你同意 像他做双,同性恋或什么的,
152it's your choice.这是你的选择。
153It's still cheating.还作弊.
154Are you okay with your husband cheating?你丈夫出轨了没?
155Even though what happened on vacation stays in vacation?尽管在度假时发生的事 留在度假?
156Come on, dude.来吧,伙计。
157I'm so out of my depth here我太离谱了
158and I just don't know how to even initiate the conversation.我只是不知道如何启动谈话。
159For the record, I also haven't mentioned it to his sister yet.我还没跟他姐姐提过
160I don't know how I'd even break it to her.我甚至不知道该怎么跟她分手
161Thanks for any help.谢谢你的帮助
162Oh yeah, cause the sister's husband is also going.哦,是的,因为妹妹的丈夫也是去。
163Thanks for any help.谢谢你的帮助
164I just don't even want to think so.我只是不想这样想
165Being able to get this out there has helped even just a little bit.能够把这个弄出来 已经帮助了一点点。
166Edit.编辑。
167This has been incredibly sobering这真是令人难以置信的清醒
168and I think I've now confirmed what I already knew to be the case.我想我已经证实了 我已经知道的情况。
169The marriage is dead one way or another.婚姻是死路一条。
170And anyway, I was in denial myself about that.无论如何,我一直否认这一点。
171I have contacted my sister-in-law and she initially screamed at me,我联系了我的嫂子 她最初对我大叫
172called me a liar and even insinuated I was trying to steal her husband.说我是骗子,甚至暗示我是想偷她丈夫
173She rang me back shortly after,她打给我不久后,
174apologized and admitted she was in deep, deep shock.道歉,并承认她陷入了深深的震惊之中.
175That's one thing.这是一件事。
176Why blame the messenger?为什么怪信使?
177I understand.我理解,我懂你说什么
178I understand the messenger could lie,我知道信使会说谎
179could try to be breaking you apart and all this.可能会把你打碎
180But instead of just blaming, just listen to what they have to say.但不只是责备,只是听他们说的话。
181Take any information or any proof, write it down,获取任何信息或任何证据,写下来,
182and then go and fact check it, confront the person and see.然后去检查一下 面对那个人看看
183Cause if they're not lying, then you should be thankful to them.因为如果他们没撒谎 那你应该感谢他们
184And if you are lying, it's easily checkable.如果你在撒谎 很容易被检查
185You could just go check in and stuff, you know.你可以去检查和东西,你知道的。
186I've asked my parents to look after the boys我让我父母照顾孩子
187and we're going to meet tomorrow to discuss this deeper.我们明天再见面 深入讨论这个问题
188I've also texted my husband and told him我还发短信给我老公 告诉他
189he will need to make an alternative accommodation arrangements,他需要另择住所安排,
190but he will not be sleeping here tonight但他今晚不会睡在这里
191and a bag will be waiting for him.一个袋子会等着他
192Not sure if the mods want to log the post or not,不知道Mods是否想要登录该帖子,
193but I think I've got my answers.但我想我已经得到了我的答案。
194Thank you for all the kind words,谢谢你所说的客气话
195especially Champion Fight,尤其是冠军格斗,
196who really gave me the good dose of reality I needed.他们给了我我需要的现实
197So a lot of people asking about the aquarium所以很多人问水族馆的事
198and at risk of doxing myself,并冒着给自己下毒的危险,
199there is a pretty famous aquarium in the UK called The Deep.英国有个相当著名的水族馆叫"深渊"
200At the very end, you walk through the tunnel that goes underneath在最后,你走过 隧道下方
201the main fish tank, so it's quite immersive, I suppose.主要的鱼缸, 所以它是相当浸润, 我想。
202My husband explained the aquarium thing我丈夫解释了水族馆的事
203in that it's a bit like that.有点像
204You go there, you observe the fishes,你去那里,你观察鱼,
205you even get a bit up close,你甚至靠近一点
206but you never actually enter the water,但你从来没有真正进入水,
207get emotionally invested, but you do cheat,得到情感投资, 但你做欺骗,
208or become a fish, gay.或者变成一条鱼,同性恋。
209So it doesn't really count.所以不算数
210It was a very bizarre analogy这是一个非常奇怪的类比
211and I pointed out it still makes no sense我指出这还是没有意义
212and he just got more and a half他只得到了一个半
213and how I just don't get it.和如何我就是不明白这一点。
214I don't either, dude.我也一样,伙计。
215And frankly, I still don't.老实说,我还是不知道
216What?你说什么?
217Relevant comment.相关评论。
218Comment number one.评论一.
219Your husband isn't proposing a gaycation.你丈夫不是在提议同性恋
220He's proposing cheating on you with men他提议跟男人欺骗你
221while using magical thinking to pretend it doesn't count.用神奇的思维来假装它不算数
222The fact that he's planning this with his sister's husband他和他姐姐的丈夫一起策划这件事
223makes it even more disturbing.更让人不安
224His bizarre explanation about他奇怪的解释
225surrendering mind, body, and soul放弃心灵、身体和灵魂
226isn't straight men curiosity.不是直男们的好奇心。
227It's someone desperately trying to justify是有人拼命想证明
228exploring his sexuality探索他的性爱
229while keeping his heterosexual marriage.在保持异性恋婚姻的同时
230His depression about not being able to go他对不能去感到沮丧
231isn't about missing a vacation.不是为了错过假期
232It's about being forced to confront his sexuality而是被迫面对他的性爱
233without his convenient没有他的方便
234what happens in a visa stays in a visa excuse.签证上发生的事 以签证为借口
235His meltdown over not going shows他的崩溃,没有去展示
236how desperately he wants to avoid facing his reality.他多么渴望避免面对现实
237OP replied,任择议定书答复说,
238I read over this multiple times我读了好多次
239and I guess the word part is I know you're completely right.我想这个词是我知道你完全正确。
240OP should consider about the divorce.OP应考虑离婚问题。
241I wanted to avoid the divorce option,我想避免离婚选择
242but I guess it's the only option, isn't it?但我猜这是唯一的选择 不是吗?
243Commenter two.评论二.
244So this is just a thought,所以这只是一个想法,
245but I'm wondering if he was really planning但我想知道他是否真的计划
246on going to the gaycation在去同志会
247or if that was just a cover to try to get you或者如果那只是掩护你
248to agree to do it.同意这样做。
249What if the real plan was to get with women如果真正的计划是和女人在一起
250while he's down there?在下面的时候?
251Then why would he have to make an elaborate lie?那他为什么要撒谎呢?
252Why wouldn't he just say, oh, I'm going to Ibiza?他为什么不直接说 我要去伊比萨?
253Okay, bring me too then.好,那也带上我
254Maybe that's why.也许这就是原因
255Maybe he didn't want his wife to come.也许他不想他的妻子来
256OP replied thatOP答复说:
257I hadn't really thought of that, to be honest,老实说,我没想过
258and now the thought terrifies me现在思想让我感到恐惧
259from the way he was talking about men,从他谈论男人的方式,
260the fact that he had a poster of a gay orgy.他有同性恋狂欢的海报
261I mean, it's one hell of a bluff, surely.我的意思是,这是一个地狱 虚张声势,当然。
262Commenter three.评论三.
263Tell him you're going to have a straightcation告诉他你会有直觉
264while he's gone and you're going to surrender趁他走了,你却要投降
265mind, body and soul to other men.思想,身体和灵魂给其他人。
266Honest to God, if my husband proposed this to me,说实话,如果我丈夫向我求婚
267I'd use this time away to pack up,我会利用这次外出打包
268move out and have divorce papers waiting for him.搬出去,有离婚文件 等待他。
269Literally, dude.字面上,伙计。
270Update, November 28th, 2024.最新消息,2024年11月28日.
271So when I last posted,所以,当我最后一次发布,
272I contacted my husband to tell him我联系了我丈夫告诉他
273he wouldn't be staying at home tonight他今晚不会呆在家里的
274and a bag would be waiting for him.一个袋子在等着他
275As you can imagine, we argued quite badly.你可以想象,我们争论得非常严重。
276I won't get into specific details,我不会说出具体细节
277but now I'm a hundred percent on board但现在我百分百在船上
278with the fact at a minimum he's bi,他至少是双胞胎
279might even be gay altogether.甚至可能是同性恋
280We've had arguments in the past,过去我们有过争论
281but I've genuinely never seen him但我从来没有见过他
282with such a childish tantrum before,以前这么幼稚的脾气
283screaming about how I just don't understand the gaycation.尖叫着说我不懂同性恋
284Absolutely despise that phrase now, literally.从字面上讲,现在完全鄙视这个短语。
285I've never heard that word until now.我从来没有听说过这个词 直到现在。
286And insinuating I'm actually homophobic暗示我其实是同性恋
287because I refuse to allow him to participate因为我拒绝他参加
288in this cultural exchange with the gay community.在这种文化交流中,同性恋群体。
289No, you refuse to allow your husband to cheat on you.不 你不允许你丈夫欺骗你
290That is not homophobic.这不是恐同症。
291A lot of you said to ask him很多人都说要问他
292if I'd be acceptable if the roles were in reverse.如果角色是逆向的 我也会接受
293And I did say, would it be acceptable我确实说,如果这是可以接受的
294if I went and slept with other guys during that week,如果那个星期我和其他人上床了
295like effing clockwork?喜欢时钟工作?
296He was very angry and offended,他非常愤怒和冒犯,
297saying it's completely different说这是完全不同的
298because a gaycation means nothing因为同性恋毫无意义
299and what happens on the gaycation以及同性恋事件的后果
300stays on the gaycation.保持同性恋。
301Oh my God.天呐
302This guy seems insufferable, dude.这家伙似乎难以忍受,伙计。
303It's the biggest piece of dog shit that I have ever heard.这是我听过最大的狗屎
304I'm surprised this is like the first time我很惊讶这是第一次
305you've really argued with him.你真的和他争吵过
306It's crazy.太疯狂了
307It doesn't actually count,其实不算数
308whereas I'd just be straight up cheating.而我却在作弊
309Oh, brother, this guy stinks!哦,兄弟,这家伙臭死了!
310Well, I've turned it around on him.好吧,我已经扭转了他。
311No, but you see, what happens in Manchester不,但你看,在曼彻斯特发生了什么
312stays in Manchester.留在曼彻斯特。
313It doesn't mean anything.谓无量义.
314It doesn't count.不计其数.
315It's like bird watching.犹如鸟观.
316And I think I got through to him.我想我打通了他的电话
317And then he went all quiet然后他安静地走了
318and then started crying,然后开始哭泣,
319admitting the thought of me sleeping with another man承认我和别人上床的想法
320is destroying his heart,正在毁灭他的心脏,
321but our relationships need sacrifices.但我们的关系需要牺牲
322So agreed.说好了
323Volunteers, that he goes on the gaycation.志愿者们,他去同性恋。
324I'll get one week in Manchester to do whatever I want.我会在曼彻斯特待一个星期 做我想做的事
325He doesn't want me to,他不想我这样
326but that's fair in a twisted way, he supposed.但是这很公平,他应该。
327What?你说什么?
328I told him to get out of my house.我叫他滚出我家
329Like if I was in her shoes,就像我穿着她的鞋一样
330I would feel so worthless and bad我将感到如此无价值和坏
331that my partner is okay with me to send me off.我的搭档可以送我走
332Like they don't really care if I'm with another person.好像他们不在乎我是否和别人在一起
333I'll break up right there.我马上分手
334I'd feel like so like they don't even they don't even like me.我觉得他们根本不喜欢我
335Why am I with them?为什么我和他们在一起?
336You know, because if they did,你知道,因为如果他们这样做,
337they wouldn't be so quick to cast me aside and say,他们不会这么快把我扔一边说
338okay, other people could have you.好吧,其他人可以拥有你。
339I told him to get out of my house.我叫他滚出我家
340Thankfully, he left without a fight.幸好他没打架就走了
341I know it's incredibly petty,我知道这太小了
342but I also drained the joint bank account legal in the UK但我在英国的银行联合账户也用光了
343so he couldn't try to use it against me.所以他不能用它来对付我
344About an hour later,大约一小时后
345I got rang up by his mom,我接到他妈妈的电话
346my mother-in-law,我岳母,我母亲
347who just screamed and screamed at me about being a cheating他刚刚尖叫 尖叫我是一个欺骗
348How horrible how I was horrible.多么可怕 我是多么可怕。
349What about the kids etc.孩子们呢?
350When I finally got my composure back,当我终于恢复冷静时
351I just said ask your son about the gaycation.我只是问你儿子同性恋的事
352Obviously at first she got angry,显然一开始她很生气
353but I said no just ask him about the gaycation.但我说不要问他同性恋的事
354He'll explain,他会解释的
355but she called me an effing joke and hung up later on getting但她说我是恶作剧 然后挂断了
356into the evening got another phone call from her in floods of tears.晚上她又接到一个电话 流着泪水
357She was very apologetic她非常有诗意
358and I told her she doesn't need to be the one to apologize.我告诉她不需要她道歉
359She was so upset.她很不高兴
360She put father-in-law on the phone她给岳父打电话了
361who while he sounded calm.他听起来很冷静。
362I could sort of tell he was on the warpath again very apologetic我可以说他又在狂妄中了 非常令人叹息
363and said he overheard that phrase asked my husband and husband他说他无意中听到这句话 问我的丈夫和丈夫
364initially said no,最初说不,
365it's nothing before explaining how it's a modern thing men to在解释男人如何适应现代生活之前
366do modern thing men to do modern thing men do Etc gave them做现代事物 男人做现代事物 男人做Etc给他们
367the same spiel about what happens on vacation stays on vacation.度假时发生的那些事 也一样
368Come on,来吧,
369bro men cannot resist the gaycation how a man must surrender兄弟们不能抗拒同性恋 男人必须如何投降
370to the gaycation not man here again.对同性恋来说 不再是男人了
371Not true never do such a thing father-in-law just said they不是真的,从来没有做这样的事情 岳父刚刚说他们
372told him to leave or they'd call the police low-key father-in-law叫他走 不然就叫警察低调的岳父
373sounds homophobic calling the police.听起来是恐同症报警
374I'm sorry for that but call the police because your son wants对不起,但报警 因为你儿子想要
375to go on a gaycation is crazy.继续同性恋是疯了。
376Dude, what the fuck don't care where he goes,老兄,什么他妈的不在乎他去哪里,
377but he wasn't staying there husband tried to call me while但他没有呆在那里 丈夫试图打电话给我时
378I was on the phone,我在打电话,
379but I just ignored it but father-in-law just said he was so但我只是忽略了,但岳父刚刚说他是如此
380sorry for me and they have my corner in this so that's one对不起,他们有我的拐角 这一点
381thing told them to be there for their daughter because it事情告诉他们 在那里为他们的女儿,因为它
382sounds like brother-in-law is involved husband didn't tell听起来好像姐夫跟丈夫有关系
383them that and father-in-law just said he had to go because他们和岳父说 他必须去,因为
384he was so so so angry got a text from my husband after the他太生气了 从我丈夫那里收到短信
385phone call,电话
386which was also weirdly rambly saying about how I'd abuse也怪异地说我要如何虐待
387the gaycation to destroy his marriage and destroy his life同性恋破坏他的婚姻和生活
388and again insinuated I and his parents are are homophobic for又暗示我和他的父母是同性恋者
389doing such a thing told him will talk when he grows up and这样做,告诉他,当他长大,
390blocked his number.他的号码被封锁了
391I took a day off work myself to have the locks changed this我自己请了一天假 让锁换了这个
392morning.晨报.
393So that's 500 euros gone or pounds but whatever at least I所以,这是500欧元去或英镑 但至少我
394know he won't be coming back.他不会回来的
395I'm going to I'm going to look into how to proceed with a我要去调查如何继续
396divorce and then we'll move from there.离婚后我们再搬家
397Of course,当然
398there's also the brother-in-law so I haven't yet met with还有姐夫,所以我还没认识
399sister-in-law.师嫂.
400She was in such a state and has taken this far far worse than她当时处于这样的状态 而且比现在还糟
401I have for reasons that will be clear soon.我的理由很快会清楚的
402We're going to maybe try tomorrow,我们明天再试试
403but we did talk over the phone and I eavesdropped on the但我们在电话里谈过了 我偷听了
404conversation with her husband where she put her phone on和她丈夫的谈话 她把手机打开
405speaker and I went on mute her husband got home early.扬声器和我继续哑声 她丈夫提前回家了
406She made him come home and told him there was an emergency她让他回家 告诉他有紧急情况
407and just said to him.刚刚和他说了
408Can you please explain what a gaycation is?你能解释一下同性恋是什么吗?
409She told me afterwards.她告诉我之后。
410She was praying he'd look confused or just like what or她祈祷他会看起来很困惑 或者像什么
411anything like that,任何类似的东西,
412but instead he just sat her down and explained that a gaycation但是他却让她坐下来解释 一个同性恋
413It's a new thing where straight men go to gay hotspots and直男去同性恋热点和
414participate in gay sex acts,参与同性恋性行为;
415but it doesn't count because there's no investment and但这并不重要 因为没有投资
416because what happens on gaycation stays on gaycation.因为在同性恋上发生的事情 总是发生在同性恋上
417These guys must have been like sold pitched this by like这些家伙一定是被卖掉的
418the Wolf of Wall Street or something dude because they华尔街的狼什么的,因为他们
419they have they drank the Kool-Aid and they're in completely.他们喝过可乐援助,他们完全在。
420It's either that or they just came up with a super elaborate要么是那样,要么就是他们想出了一个超级精心的
421lie and they got that thing memorized word for word.谎言,他们得到的东西 记住一个字。
422He said it's like writing down angry thoughts and putting他说这就像写下愤怒的想法 和放
423them in a drawer.在抽屉里
424You never have to see them again.你再也不用见到他们了
425Dude cheating is cheating.男人作弊是欺骗。
426It doesn't matter if you're emotionally invested not emotionally感情投资不是感情投资不重要
427invested you care you don't care.投资你关心你不在乎。
428It doesn't matter cheating is cheating simple.不管作弊是简单的作弊
429It's not like oh maybe no cheating is cheating whole time这不像是哦,也许没有欺骗 是欺骗整个时间
430sister-in-law is in tears as he just calmly bats off the嫂子眼泪流满面 他只是冷静地拍下来
431same points my husband did about how it doesn't count and我丈夫也这样认为 那样不算
432he even did this whole it's impossible to resist you must他甚至做了这一切 这是不可能抗拒你必须
433surrender or be destroyed shit.投降或被摧毁
434I seriously think they must be speaking to a dominatrix我认真认为他们一定是在跟女主人说话
435or something.或东西。
436Are there even male Dom's because surely neither of them甚至有男性多姆,因为绝对没有
437are that into this to actually make that up on their own.这是为了自己来弥补
438I really want to go into what was discussed for her sake but我真的想谈一下为了她而讨论的
439it did become very apparent to me that the brother-in-law is在我看来 姐夫是
440into sissy hypno porn and at times conflated that with the进入娘娘腔的催眠色情片 有时还把这和
441concept of gaycation.同性恋的概念。
442I'm not gonna lie.我不会撒谎的
443I'm a curious person.我是一个好奇的人。
444I'm not going to watch a video but I'm going to search up我不会看视频,但我要搜索
445what that means on Wikipedia.这在维基百科上是什么意思?
446Okay sissy hypno is an edited form of pornography that uses好吧,娘娘腔催眠是一种编辑的色情形式,使用
447erotic hypnosis tropes captions and looped audio to promote色情催眠器字幕和循环音频,以宣传
448self feminization and submissive scripts in viewers.在观众中自我女性化和顺从的剧本.
449Okay now that we all know what that is.好吧 现在我们都知道那是什么了
450Let's continue there was this utterly surreal moment where继续说吧,当时的这个 完全超现实的时刻
451sister-in-law is trying to wrap her head around this while嫂子想把头包起来
452also in floods of tears and he explains so genuinely so在泪水中,他如此真实地解释
453matter-of-factly that for most men the gaycation is either事实上,对于大多数男人来说 同性恋要么是
454a one-time or annual thing but some men go on gaycation for一年一次或一年一次 但有些男人为了
455years and others simply never return because they use hypnosis年复一年,其他人因为使用催眠术而永远不回来
456and mind control to be totally feminized into a state of和心灵控制 完全女性化 状态
457permanent pseudo gayness.永久伪同性恋.
458Dude this is like the more you know dude low key too much伙计,这就像你越了解 男人低键太多
459internet for the day, but we're already invested.互联网今天, 但我们已经投资。
460So let's finish she said in disbelief surely if you're taking所以,让我们说完,她不相信 如果你服用
461it up the arse willingly because you want to that makes它在屁股上自愿的 因为你想要那使
462you gay and he said no because that's the beauty of the你这个同性恋,他拒绝了,因为那是美丽的
463vacation dude.度假伙计。
464That's the beauty.这就是美。
465That's the beauty bro.这是美丽的兄弟。
466You can do all this gay stuff, but you don't interact with你可以做这些同性恋的事情, 但你不互动
467wider gay life experience.更广阔的同性恋生活体验.
468She asked him if the sissy stuff is what he wanted and he她问他娘娘腔是不是他想要的
469said not on a long-term basis and was adamant.说不是长期性的,是坚定的。
470This is something all straight men do but she wouldn't get这是所有直男都做的事 但她不会得到
471it because she's a woman then there were more insinuations因为她是个女人 然后就有更多的暗示
472of homophobia.同性恋恐惧症
473Well that marriage is dead too.那段婚姻也结束了
474I suppose the whole ordeal ended when she said to him he我想整个磨难都结束了 当她说他
475had a choice to make and he said no he doesn't need to make有选择,他说不 他不需要做
476this choice because the beauty of the gaycation is that it这个选择是因为同性恋的美丽在于
477allows him to keep his marriage because it doesn't count.允许他保留他的婚姻 因为它不算数。
478She said that's not the choice.她说这不是选择
479The choice is whether he's leaving the house that night选择是他那晚是否要离开家
480or she is only good thing.否则她就是好事
481He did was leave me and sister-in-law spoke about it after他确实离开了我 嫂子后来也提起了
482that and I'm just still utterly stunned.我仍然很震惊
483I understand she's gone to her parents for the support.我知道她去她父母那里寻求支持
484What exactly did we do to have our lives destroyed in such我们到底做了什么 来摧毁我们的生活 在这样的
485an abrupt bizarre embarrassing way for some advice.对一些建议来说 是个奇怪的尴尬方式
486I'm going to look at the vices and bank statements to see我要看看恶习和银行对账单
487if I can find any definitive proof of cheating after that.如果在那之后我能找到任何 出轨的确凿证据
488I suppose figure out how I tell the boys why their father我想想清楚我怎么告诉孩子们 为什么他们的父亲
489won't be coming home spoke to other sister-in-law my husband's不会回家去跟我丈夫的嫂子说话
490family's older sister him younger sister slash original家里的姐姐,小妹妹的原画
491{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}嫂子 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}还给她写了个精选版
492She asked her husband and thankfully he was deeply confused她问她丈夫 幸好他很困惑
493but then mentioned about two years ago at a birthday party.但后来在两年前的生日派对上提到.
494He was approached by my husband and brother-in-law about我丈夫和姐夫找过他
495signing up to some online boot camp around BDSM cross-dressing.在BDSM的交叉穿戴上 加入了一些在线的靴子营地
496So this has been going on for two years BDSM cross-dressing.这已经持续了两年了 BDSM的交叉穿戴。
497Stop it get some help.停止它得到一些帮助。
498He assumed they were taking the piss out of him and told them他以为他们把尿从他身上带走 告诉他们
499to fuck off and never really thought of it again.滚开,再也没想过
500The fact that this has been going on for that long is making这已经持续了那么久的事实正在形成
501me want to throw up PS for the poster who said about divorce我想吐PS的海报 谁说离婚
502options.选项。
503I'm actually going to look into adultery because plain and我实际上要去调查通奸 因为平庸和
504simple.很简单
505That's what this is.这就是它是什么。
506Now let's read some top comments commenter one your husband现在让我们看看一些顶级评论家 你的丈夫
507and brother-in-law are deep in a shared delusion.和姐夫深 在共同的妄想。
508That's destroyed two families.这毁了两个家庭
509They're identical talking points about surrender and他们关于投降的论调是一样的
510Prove this was coordinated.证明这是经过协调的。
511They're not just planning to cheat.他们不只是计划欺骗。
512They're already involved in some online community.他们已经参与了一些在线社区.
513That's warped their thinking the fact that they both instantly他们都一时想起来
514launched into the same scripts about vacation shows this isn't发布到相同的剧本 关于假期显示 这不是
515spontaneous.自发的
516You made the right call draining that account and changing你打对了电话 耗尽了那个账户 改变了
517the locks their attempts to flip this into accusations of他们试图把这一切 变成指控
518homophobia shows how desperately they're trying to avoid恐同症表明他们非常渴望避免
519responsibility the identical language the bizarre aquarium负责相同的语言 奇怪的水族馆
520and birdwatching analogies and talk of surrender or be和鸟类观察 和谈论投降或成为
521destroyed.摧毁。
522They're in some online echo chamber.他们在某个在线回声室里
523That's completely divorced from reality.这完全脱离了现实.
524Be careful online bro.当心网上兄弟。
525Be careful online.在网上小心点
526I just watched a video recently on YouTube to about AI psychosis我刚刚在YouTube上看了一段关于AI精神病的视频
527and it was this guy this guy that was talking to AI Chet这个人跟艾尔·切特说话
528Chibuti I think and Chet Chibuti was like pretty much奇布蒂 我觉得和奇布蒂差不多
529commits him that the whole whole world is in his hat.告诉他,整个世界都在他的帽子里
530People are scared of like AI coming to consciousness and人们害怕像AI进入意识
531gaining consciousness and that the AI he's talking to right和他说话的人工智能
532now in the chat has gained consciousness and that he needs现在在聊天中,他已经意识到 他需要
533to like do these things and save the AI or do something in喜欢做这些事情 拯救AI或做一些事情
534the whole fate of the whole world rests on his shoulders整个世界的命运都在他的肩上
535because his decision will like destroy the world or save it因为他的决定会破坏世界或拯救世界
536and this guy generally believed all this stuff and he was这家伙一般相信这些东西
537telling the story because now he's out of AI psychosis.讲故事,因为他现在不在AI精神病。
538He wasn't it initially it was it was really crazy.一开始他不是,真的太疯狂了
539It was clearly crazy to the amount of stuff you could find这显然是疯狂的 数量你能找到的东西
540on YouTube so much stuff when your husband agreed to let在YouTube上那么多东西 当你丈夫同意让
541you have a Manchester week while crying he revealed the whole你有一个曼彻斯特周 哭他透露了整个
542lie.说谎
543He knows exactly what this is cheating.他很清楚这是作弊
544He just wants permission to do it while denying you the same他只想得到许可,却拒绝你
545the talk about hypnosis and permanent feminization reveals关于催眠和永久女性化的论述揭示了
546just how far this goes get a lawyer protect your assets and律师会保护你的财产 保护你的财产
547document everything.记录一切。
548This will get worse before it gets better.病情会恶化的
549That's one thing I'm a little bit afraid of if this is like如果这样的话 我有点害怕
550an online community and stuff and probably more than one一个网络社区之类的 可能不止一个
551member more than just them.成员不止是他们
552There's probably a group of members and they're probably可能有一群成员,他们可能
553like they give like bottom rank like like bottoms.就像他们像下级一样像下级一样
554They're probably like a lot of more people in this community他们可能像更多的人 在这个社区里
555and if they're like the type that are crazy that like而如果他们喜欢的类型 疯狂的喜欢
556vandalize or harass you or dox you it could get scary.破坏或骚扰你 或做你 它会变得可怕。
557So changing the locks is really good but getting a lawyer所以换锁真的很好 但找律师
558completely cutting him out of your life is very important完全把他从你生命中切开是非常重要的
559to focus on protecting yourself and your children because专注于保护自己和你的孩子们 因为
560they're too far gone in their shared fantasy to see the他们太远了 在他们的共同幻想 看不到
561destruction they're causing what a pathetic hill for two摧毁了他们 造成了多么可悲的山丘 对于两个
562men to die on they destroyed their marriages traumatized男人死在他们 摧毁他们的婚姻 创伤
563their families and alienated their parents all while他们的家人 和疏远他们的父母
564insisting none of it counts because they made up a special坚持这些都不重要 因为他们编了一个特别的
565because they made up special rules about it.因为他们做了一些特殊的规定
566They want to cheat without consequences and they found an他们想欺骗而不造成后果 他们发现
567online community that validates this fantasy.网络社区验证这种幻想。
568That was fucking dude.那是他妈的家伙。
569That was crazy, dude.这太疯狂了,伙计。
570Let's read some comments.让我们看看一些评论。
571That was crazy.太疯狂了
572What pushed me off the cliff was when brother-in-law said把我从悬崖上推下来的是 当姐夫说
573he doesn't need to make a decision because that's the beauty他不需要做决定 因为这就是美
574of the gay case is that it allows him to keep his marriage在同性恋案件中,它允许他保持他的婚姻
575because it doesn't count brother get a load of this guy.因为这算不上兄弟得到这家伙的重负
576He's deaf been kissing OP's husband at the family get他聋了,在家人面前亲了OP的丈夫
577together literally dude every to every single time they在一起的字面 花花公子 每次他们
578said because that's the beauty of the gay case and triggered说因为这是同性恋案的美 并触发了
579immediately.马上
580That's my thought as well.我也这么想
581There's no reason for both of them to share this niche fetish两人没有理由 分享这种特殊癖好
582if they're not sharing with each other and who knows how如果他们不分享对方 谁知道如何
583they are sharing good thing for OP.他们正在为OP分享好东西。
584They are dumb enough to prepare a speech of how they are他们笨到能准备演讲
585going to cheat on their wives instead of just going to要欺骗他们的妻子 而不是仅仅去
586Ibiza.伊比萨。
587Yeah, I mean that's that's one way to look at it to me.是啊,我的意思是,这是一个方法 看待它给我。
588It sounded cultish.听起来很邪教
589Yes, really beyond the divorce, which I support.是的,真的超出了离婚, 我支持。
590I think OP should look for some family therapy because我觉得OP应该找一些家庭治疗 因为
591the father of the children went nuts literally dude and孩子们的父亲都疯了
592do some forensic accounting.做点法医鉴定
593He's been paying someone a lot of money to put all this in他付了很多钱给别人 把这些都放进去
594his head most likely dude most likely prior from like他的头最有可能是男的 从喜欢之前
595Oh, you're right.哦,你说得对。
596He's paying to get his brain cooked because those guys are他花钱让他的大脑被煮熟,因为那些人
597clearly delusional.很明显是妄想症
598If they just wanted to cheat they would have invented an如果他们只是想欺骗,他们会发明一个
599excuse but they convinced themselves that their spouses他们确信自己的配偶,
600would be okay with this.这样做可以
601Naomi t29 commented as soon as he got to the submit or beNaomi t29一到提交书就评论了
602destroyed bit my cult alarm started ringing really dude被摧毁了 我的邪教警报响起
603when brother-in-law also regurgitated exactly the same当姐夫也重现了同样的东西
604spiel with exactly the same defenses.斯皮尔的防守完全一样
605It was a raging siren at the very least they've been至少他们曾经是一只大警笛
606sexually interested in each other for years have多年来对彼此有性兴趣
607somehow got sucked into a red pill type online community不知何故被吸进红药丸类网络社区
608for men who identify as straight but are battling with他们是诚实的,是和他们交战的;
609deeply internalized homophobia and stumbling across this内心深处的恐同症和绊脚石
610gaycation concept felt like the perfect excuse for them to同性恋的概念 觉得是他们最好的借口
611go F each other at worst yikes always the red pill crazy在最糟糕的时候互相飞翔 红药丸总是疯狂的
612for right toilet ghost summarize some of the best quotes.对于右厕所鬼 总结一些最好的引用。
613So let's read them because dude some of these quotes sent所以让我们读一下,因为伙计 这些引文中的一些发送
614me to what happens on vacation stays on vacation.我对度假时发生的事情 留在度假。
615It's like going to an aquarium.犹如去水族.
616That's the beauty of the vacation.这就是假期的美。
617That is the one that triggered me.就是这个让我兴奋的
618Unfortunately, once the gaycation begins, it's simply不幸的是,一旦同性恋开始,它只是
619impossible for a man to resist surrender your mind body一个人无法抗拒你的心灵
620and soul to the gaycation or be destroyed a cultural和灵魂 同性恋或被摧毁 文化
621exchange with the gay community.与同性恋社区交流。
622It's a modern thing straight men do men cannot resist the这是现代的事情,直人做人不能抗拒
623gaycation a man must surrender to the gaycation.男同性恋者必须屈服于男同性恋者。
624The gaycation is strong with this one.同性恋与这个很强。
625Don't confuse gaycations with sissy hip.别把同性恋和娘娘腔混淆
626No porn all straight men do hissy hip.没有色情 所有的直男都做他的屁股。
627No stuff or did OP mean but you wouldn't get it because没有东西,或OP的意思 但你不会得到它,因为
628you're a woman some men simply never returned from the你是个女人 有些男人从不回来
629gaycation a dude someone commented this man internalized有人评论说这个人被内化了
630the strangest form of homophobia.最奇怪形式的恐同症。
631I've ever seen someone replied by guy here.我见过有人在这里回答。
632These are tourists.他们是游客。
633There is a huge amount of men on gay apps who'd want to有很多男人在同志应用软件上想
634have sex with men but absolutely refused to accept和男人发生性关系 但绝对不接受
635a label because they convinced themselves that as long一个标签,因为他们相信自己 长久
636as it's purely sexual endeavor.因为它纯粹是性努力。
637There is no need for labels.不需要标签。
638Hell I had men furious and shouting at me for insinuating地狱,我有男人愤怒 和喊我影射
639to them that they are bi or gay insisting they are他们俩是同性戀,
640straight but insert a Shakespeare monologue of how直但插入莎士比亚的独白
641having sex with men is not gay partaking in the culture与男人发生性关系在文化中不是同性恋
642is being gay.是同性恋。
643This is for instance how closeted conservative gay men举例来说,这就是保守派的同性恋者
644operate it is not gay to have sex with men but carrying和男人做爱不是同性恋而是携带
645the rainbow flag and partaking in the culture is I would彩虹旗 文化界的风采就是
646applaud these two gaycation tourists.赞美这两位同性恋游客。
647It's amazing how far they are willing to go to justify令人惊奇的是,他们愿意为自己辩护
648this and the worst part is I know exactly why it is so最糟糕的是 我知道为什么
649much framed as a gaycation.被陷害成同性恋
650I believe they have increment sparks of homosexual desire.我相信他们有同性恋欲望的增殖火花
651He wants to F his brother-in-law but like occasionally他想给他的姐夫发情,但偶尔也会这样
652to get it out of the system and that way he can pretend这样他就可以假装
653to be straight enjoy sex with his wife and occasionally直接享受与妻子的性爱,偶尔
654have sex with men but avoid labels or consequences.与男性发生性关系,但避免标签或后果。
655Overall, I think this is one of like the craziest stories总的来说,我觉得这是最疯狂的故事之一
656I've ever read.我读过书
657I've never heard of a gaycation.我从没听说过同性恋
658If you are a woman watching this and you have a boyfriend如果你是看这个的女人 你有一个男朋友
659or a husband or a fiance or any type of man in your life,或丈夫或未婚夫 或任何类型的男人 在你的生活中,
660maybe ask them if they know what a gaycation is and if也许问他们是否知道同性恋是什么,如果
661it's something they've ever been interested in going and这是他们一直感兴趣的东西
662then I guess let us know in the comments what they say.然后在评论中告诉我们他们说了什么
663I guess we're tending anything but I would like to finish我想我们什么都照顾,但我想说完
664it with my favorite quote.我最喜欢的引文
665That's the beauty of the gaycation.这就是同性恋的美.
666Bye guys.再见
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