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Anthropic三个月进账170亿美元,投资人为何反而恐慌

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0:00Imagine making 17 billion dollars.想象一下赚了170亿美元
0:02Right.对
0:03You make it in just three months.你三个月后就到了
0:04That is a lot of money.这是一大笔钱。
0:06It is.没错
0:06But now imagine your investors are still panicking.现在想象一下你的投资者还在恐慌
0:10Like actually panicking.像是惊慌失措
0:12Exactly.没错
0:12So这么说
0:13welcome to the deep dive.欢迎来到深潜
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1Imagine making 17 billion dollars.想象一下赚了170亿美元
2Right.对
3You make it in just three months.你三个月后就到了
4That is a lot of money.这是一大笔钱。
5It is.没错
6But now imagine your investors are still panicking.现在想象一下你的投资者还在恐慌
7Like actually panicking.像是惊慌失措
8Exactly.没错
9So这么说
10welcome to the deep dive.欢迎来到深潜
11Glad you're joining us today.很高兴你今天能来
12Today we are looking at some leaked今天我们正看着一些泄露出去的人
13financial numbers.财务数字。
14Very fresh numbers too.非常新鲜的数字。
15Right.对
16They come from a brand new article.他们来自一个全新的文章。
17It is from the这是从
18South China Morning Post.南华早报.
19The date is November 4th, 2026.日期为2026年11月4日.
20And we are looking really closely at a我们正密切注视着
21叫做Anthropic的公司。
22Yes, Anthropic.是的,安东尼
23You probably know them.你可能认识他们
24他们让Claude AI很受欢迎
25model.型号。
26People usually argue about which AI is the smartest.人们通常会争论哪个AI是最聪明的.
27You know, they want to know which one你知道,他们想知道 哪个
28writes the best computer code.写最好的计算机代码。
29Or which one can pass a hard test.或何人能通过难验.
30Right.对
31Like a bar exam for lawyers.就像律师的律师考试
32Yeah.对
33But we have a different mission today.但是我们今天的任务不同
34A completely different angle.一个完全不同的角度。
35Yeah.对
36We are looking我们在寻找
37strictly at the business of AI.严格来说是AI的生意
38We want to know how these massive systems actually make money.我们想知道这些庞大的系统是如何赚钱的。
39If they even do make money.如果他们真的赚钱的话
40Right.对
41And Anthropic is the perfect test case right now.而Anthropic是完美的测试案例 现在。
42Because of因为
43the big event.大型事件。
44Yes.对
45They are preparing for an IPO.他们正在筹备一个IPO。
46So an IPO.所以是一个IPO。
47Let's explain that really quickly.让我们解释一下,真的很快。
48Please do.请吧
49It stands for Initial Public Offering.它代表了初始公开报价。
50Right.对
51It means a company is selling shares to the意思是公司要卖股票
52public for the first time.首次公开.
53So regular people can buy a piece of the company.这样,普通人就可以购买公司的一块.
54Exactly.没错
55But going却去
56public changes everything.公众会改变一切
57You cannot hide your costs anymore.你不能再隐瞒自己的代价了
58You have to open the books.你必须打开书。
59Yeah.对
60You have to open your secret financial books to the whole world.你必须向全世界开放你的秘密财务书籍.
61Investors demand to see the actual投资者要求查看实际
62math.数学
63And the math in this article is wild.这篇文章中的数学是疯狂的。
64It reveals a massive gap in the global market.它揭示了全球市场的巨大差距。
65A really brutal divide.一个非常残酷的鸿沟。
66我们一边是Anthropic。
67And their top Chinese rivals are他们的中国顶尖对手是
68on the other side.在另一边。
69The main competitors mentioned are Z.AI and Minimax.所提到的主要竞争对手是Z.AI和Minimax.
70Right.对
71And Z.AI is also knownZ. AI也已经知道
72as Xipu AI.作为习近平AI.
73Just to be clear on the names.只是要说清楚名字
74Yeah.对
75Now the technology between these companies is现在这些公司之间的技术是
76relatively close.相对近.
77Right.对
78It is.没错
79The AI models can do similar tasks.AI模型可以执行类似的任务.
80They are very smart.他们非常聪明。
81But the不过
82business side tells a completely different story.商业方面讲述了完全不同的故事。
83The financial gap is staggering.财政缺口惊人。
84We need to look我们需要看看
85at the scoreboard first.在记分牌第一。
86The basic numbers.基本数字。
87Yeah.对
88The basic score.基本分数.
89The revenue numbers for the first第一部分的收入数字
90half of 2026 are completely wild.2026年的一半是完全野性的。
91Let's hear them.让我们听听他们。
92Anthropic brought in 16.3 billion dollars.安东尼带来了163亿美元。
93Wow.珃
94It is.没错
95It is just for six months of operation.它只运作了六个月。
96Just six months.就六个月
97Massive.大规模。
98It is huge.这是巨大的。
99Massive.大规模。
100Now look at the Chinese rivals.现在看看中国的对手
101During that exact same time period.在同一时间段
102OK. Z.AI made just 141 million摆 Z.AI只赚了1.41亿
103dollars.钱
104Millions not billions.百万亿不亿.
105Right.对
106而Minimax赚了1.166亿美元.
107So the difference in所以区别在于
108raw sales is hard to even process.原始销售甚至难以处理。
109It really is.没错
110Anthropic的操作方式完全不同
111planet.行星 地球 行星
112Yeah.对
113I mean I like to think of this like a giant global supermarket.我的意思是我喜欢把这当成一个巨大的全球超市。
114OK. Yeah.摆 对
115Anthropic is安东尼
116the giant supermarket.巨大的超市。
117And the rivals are like a small local shop on the corner.而竞争对手就像拐角处的小地方商店.
118That makes sense.这有道理。
119But if their AI technology is so similar why is the money so different?但是,如果他们的AI技术如此相似,为什么资金如此不同?
120Well raw sales do not tell好吧,原销售不告诉
121the whole story.整个故事。
122We have to look at the gross profit margin.我们必须看毛利润率。
123Let's break that term down for我们把这个词拆掉吧
124everyone.每个人。
125Sure.当然
126Gross profit margin is basically a percentage.总利润率基本上是一个百分比。
127OK.摆
128It is the percentage of money you这是你的钱的百分比
129keep after paying the direct cost of making your product.在支付你的产品直接成本后继续保留。
130So money in minus direct costs.钱减去直接成本
131Exactly.没错
132And for an AI company the main direct cost is servers.而对于一个AI公司来说,主要的直接成本是服务器.
133The computers running the whole电脑运行整个
134thing.东西。
135Right.对
136It is the electricity and the raw processing power.是电力和原始加工电源
137那么Anthropic如何处理这个
138metric?标尺?
139In the tech hardware space Anthropic's numbers are unheard of.在技术硬件空间 Anthropic的数字是无人听说过的.
140They keep 85.4 percent他们保留了85.4%
141as gross profit.作为毛利润。
14285 percent?85%吗?
143Yeah.对
144So out of every dollar they make they keep about 85 cents.所以他们每赚一美元,就留了85美分
145Just 15 cents goes to paying for their servers.只要付15美分的服务器费
146That level of efficiency is incredible.这种效率水平令人难以置信。
147OK. Now摆 现在
148compare that to the rivals.和对手比较一下
149Right.对
150So Z.AI has a gross margin of 26.4 percent.Z.AI的总比值为26.4%。
151That is a huge drop.这是一个巨大的下降。
152而Minimax则坐着 17.9%的暴徒。
153Ouch.哎哟
15417.9 percent.占17.9%,占比为17.9%.
155Yes.对
156So for Minimax over 80 cents of every dollar is just vanishing.所以,对于Minimax 超过80美分每美元只是消失了。
157It goes right into server costs.它直接进入服务器成本。
158It vanishes.它会消失的
159It is a very bad situation for them.这对他们来说是一个非常糟糕的情况。
160That does not sound sustainable.这听起来不可持续。
161It is not.事实并非如此。
162And还有
163when Anthropic released these amazing numbers the market reacted immediately.当Anthropic发布这些惊人的数字时,市场立即作出反应。
164People noticed.人们注意到了。
165Oh瓳
166yeah.对
167Investors looked at that massive efficiency gap and they got worried about the Chinese投资者看 巨大的效率差距 他们担心中国人
168companies.企业。
169The article says shares for Z.AI and Minimax dropped in Hong Kong.文章称Z.AI和Minimax的股份在香港下跌.
170They took a hit.他们打了一顿
171Yeah.对
172Z.AI下降了约13%,Minimax下降了2%。
173Investors clearly see the投资者清楚地看到
174danger there.危险
175High revenue does not matter if your costs eat everything.高收入并不重要,如果你的成本 吃的一切。
176This brings up a critical这引起了一个关键
177question though.问吧
178What is that?这是什么?
179我们知道Anthropic正在获胜。
180But why?为什么?
181Right.对
182If their AI models如果他们的人工智能模型
183are doing similar jobs why is Anthropic so much more efficient?为什么Anthropic的效率要高得多?
184The answer comes down to a very答案是说
185specific word.具体字.
186We have to look at how these companies manage compute.我们必须看看这些公司如何计算。
187Let's define compute我们来计算一下
188as a noun here.在这里作为一个名词。
189Yes.对
190Compute is a thing.计算是一回事。
191It is just the raw processing power required to run these只是运行这些设备所需的原始加工动力
192models right?模特儿 对吧?
193Exactly.没错
194It is the raw computer power.这是原始的计算机动力。
195You need massive amounts of compute to你需要大量的计算
196train an AI.训练人工智能。
197You also need it every time a user asks a question.用户每次提问时也需要它.
198Yeah.对
199Every single chat prompt每个聊天提示
200burns compute.燃烧计算。
201It's like the electricity of the AI world.犹如AI世界之电.
202That is a great way to say it.说得真好
203And还有
204compute is incredibly expensive.计算太贵了
205Some analysts dug into this right?一些分析家发现了这个权利?
206Yes.对
207Analysts from HSBC Bank.汇丰银行分析员.
208Ritchie Sun, Charlene Lu and Wang Peishan.李奇孙,吕夏琳和王培山.
209What did they find?他们发现了什么?
210They looked at how much money他们看了多少钱
211companies make for every single dollar they spend on compute.公司每花一美元计算
212The return on investment.投资收益.
213Exactly.没错
214In the second quarter, Anthropic made $2.08 for every $1 spent on compute.第二季,安特罗皮克每计算花费1美元就赚了2.08美元.
215So they double their所以他们加倍
216money on the computer power.钱的电脑电源。
217Yes.对
218But Z.AI made only $0.46.但是Z.AI只赚了0.46美元.
219Wait.单单
220$0.46 for every dollar spent.每花费一美元,0.46美元.
221Yeah.对
222So Z.AI is actively losing money on their compute costs.因此Z.AI在计算成本上 正在积极输钱。
223They spend a dollar to make less他们花一块钱赚得少
224than half a dollar back.超过半美元回来。
225That is crazy.太疯狂了
226It is a big problem.这是一个大问题。
227那么Anthropic是如何做到的?
228Do they难道他们
229just buy cheaper computers?买更便宜的电脑?
230No.没有
231They buy the same hardware.他们购买同样的硬件。
232Everyone uses the same basic chips.每个人都使用同样的基本筹码.
233So what is their secret?他们的秘密是什么?
234The HSBC analysts point to a big concept.汇丰银行分析师指出一个大概念.
235It is called recursive self这叫做自旋
236improvement.改进。
237Recursive self improvement.不断自我改进.
238That sounds complicated.这听起来很复杂。
239Let's explain it simply.让我们简单解释一下
240Sure.当然
241It just means using the AI to write better code.意思是用人工智能来写更好的代码
242Okay.摆
243The AI finds ways to make the nextAI 找到方法 使下一个
244version of the AI even faster and cheaper to run.更快速更便宜地运行。
245So the tool acts as its own mechanic.所以这个工具可以充当自己的机械师.
246Exactly.没错
247It rewrites parts of its own code to move data faster.它重写自己代码的部分内容,以更快地移动数据.
248And faster data movement means less更快的数据移动意味着更少
249server time.服务器时间 。
250Right.对
251Less server time means lower electricity bills.减少服务器时间意味着电费减少.
252Anthropic非常擅长这个.
253But wait, I have to push back here.等等,我必须推回这里
254Okay.摆
255Go ahead.来吧。
256The Chinese companies are not just standing中国公司不只是站着
257still, right?仍然,对不对?
258Nope.没有
259You are absolutely right.你说得对
260They have smart engineers too.他们也有聪明的工程师。
261Yes.对
262And there is a有一个
263surprising fact from the source.出乎人们的意料
264Z.AI is actually catching up very fast.Z.AI实际上赶得很快。
265Really?真的吗?
266Yeah.对
267Because their因为他们
268total numbers looked terrible just a minute ago.一分钟前的总数看起来很糟糕
269The totals are low, but their speed of improvement总数很低,但是改进的速度
270is shocking.真让人吃惊
271How fast are we talking?我们说话有多快?
272Z.AI's revenue per dollar of compute grew 23 times bigger.Z.AI每美元计算收入增长23倍.
273Wow.珃
27423 times.诵经二十三遍.
275Yeah.对
276Since early 2025.2025年初开始.
277That is massive growth.这是巨大的增长。
278It is.没错
279For comparison,作为比较
280Anthropic's efficiency only grew 4.2 times in that same period.同期Anthropic的效率只增长了4.2倍.
281So Z.AI is sprinting much fasterZ. AI的冲刺速度快得多
282right now.现在
283They are, but they started the race miles behind Anthropic.是的,但他们开始比赛 距离安特罗皮克数英里。
284Right.对
285So being efficient这么有效率
286today is great, but creating the next generation of AI is incredibly expensive.今天是伟大的,但创造下一代AI是令人难以置信的昂贵。
287Very expensive.非常昂贵。
288This leads to the biggest problem.这导致了最大的问题。
289Paying for new research.付新研究费.
290Yes.对
291The research and development研究和开发
292trap.夹子。
293We have a quote from a tech analyst about this, Po Zhao from Hello China Tech.我们从一位技术分析师那里得到一则关于这个的引文,"你好中国技术公司"的宝昭.
294Zhao suggests a very simple test for any AI company.赵 suggests建议对任何AI公司进行非常简单的测试.
295Right.对
296What is the test?测试是什么?
297He asks,他问,
298can your gross profit pay for your research?你的毛利润能支付你的研究费用吗?
299That makes sense.这有道理。
300If your current product cannot如果当前产品不能
301pay to invent your next product, you are in trouble.给钱发明你的下一个产品, 你有麻烦了。
302So how does Anthropic do on this test?那么,安特罗皮克如何做在这个测试?
303Anthropic passes easily.安东尼很容易通过。
304Their gross profit is so big it covers all of their research spending.他们的毛利润如此之大 涵盖了他们所有的科研开支
305By how much?多少钱?
306It covers it 1.4 times over.它覆盖它1.4倍超过。
307So they fully pay for their future research and still因此,他们全额支付 他们未来的研究,仍然
308have profit left over.剩下的利润。
309Exactly.没错
310Now look at Z.AI.现在看看Z.AI。
311Right.对
312Their gross profit covers only他们的毛利润只包括
313one eighth of their research costs.他们的研究成本的八分之一。
314One eighth.八分之一门.
315That is very low.这是非常低的。
316And Minimax还有迷你最大
317is worse.情况更糟
318They cover only one 14th of their research budget.它们只支付研究预算的14分之一.
319That is a scary position for这是一个可怕的姿势
320that company.那个公司
321It is like selling concert tickets for one dollar.这就像卖音乐会的门票 一美元。
322Okay.摆
323A concert?音乐会?
324Yeah.对
325You sell你卖
326the tickets for a dollar.一块钱的票
327You get a huge crowd to come.你会有很多人来
328The stadium is packed.体育场已经打包好了
329Right.对
330But at the不过,在
331end of the night, you do not have enough money to pay the band.晚上,你没有足够的钱支付乐队。
332That is a perfect analogy.这是一个完美的类比。
333And that还有
334is exactly what is happening in the Chinese market.这正是中国市场正在发生的情况。
335Why are they doing that?他们为什么要这么做?
336The Chinese labs are中国的实验室
337fighting a price war.参加价格战争
338They use low prices to get more users.他们使用低价来获得更多的用户.
339So they are practically giving access因此,他们实际上提供进入
340away for free.免费离开。
341Yes.对
342They are desperate to build a massive user base.他们急于建立庞大的用户基础.
343But Zhao warns that low prices但是赵紫阳警告说价格低
344cannot fund future research.无法资助未来的研究。
345Right.对
346The next generation of A.I.后世阿难.
347will cost billions to train.将花费数十亿的训练。
348You cannot fund that with tiny prices.你不能用微薄的价格来资助它。
349So who is paying the bill right now?那现在是谁付帐?
350Right now, capital现在,首都
351markets are paying.市场正在支付。
352Investors are covering the gap.投资者正在弥补差距。
353But that might not last forever.但这可能不会永远持续下去。
354Investor投资者
355patience is not infinite.忍耐不是无限的。
356No.没有
357There is another detail from Zhao.赵有别详.
358It is about how they actually是关于他们实际上是如何
359purchase their computer power.购买他们的电脑电源。
360Oh, this strategy difference is huge.战略差异很大
361Yeah.对
362Anthropic commits to人类承诺
363buying computer power 12 to 18 months in advance.提前12至18个月购买计算机电源.
364They sign long term contracts.他们签署了长期合同。
365Like paying for就像付钱一样
366something way ahead of time.远超时间
367Exactly.没错
368This keeps their costs safe and predictable.这使他们的费用安全、可预测。
369They are protected他们受到保护
370from sudden price jumps.从突然的价格跳跃。
371But the Chinese developers use a different strategy.但中国开发商使用不同的策略.
372Very different.非常不一样。
373They buy他们买
374compute as a service.算作服务.
375What does that mean?这是什么意思?
376They buy it from cloud providers day by day.他们日日从云供养者处购买.
377Just buying只是买
378what they need for that one day.有一天他们需要的
379Right.对
380On demand.随请而至.
381But buying day by day means paying the highest但买日买日买日买日买日
382possible prices.可能的价格。
383It is like renting a car by the hour instead of buying one.这就像一个小时租车而不是买车。
384Exactly.没错
385And that high这么高
386cost just eats their profits away.成本只是吃他们的利润。
387So Anthropic's strategy seems flawless.所以Anthropic的策略似乎完美无缺.
388But wait, let's stop the但等等,让我们停止
389conversation right here.谈话在这里。
390OK.摆
391I want to point out a major twist.我想指出一个重大的曲折。
392There is a twist?有转弯吗?
393Yeah.对
394It sounds听起来
395like Anthropic is having a perfect year.就像Anthropic有一个完美的一年。
396They look unstoppable on paper.纸上看起来是无法阻挡的
397But they are not.但他们不是。
398The reality现实
399of this industry is hitting even the giants.这个行业甚至连巨人都打中了
400What do the new numbers show?新数字显示什么?
401我们有Anthropic的
402newest numbers from an amended IPO filing.经修订的IPO档案中的最新数字。
403This is for the third quarter of 2026.这是2026年第三季度的
404OK.摆
405The very就是那个
406latest data.最新数据。
407Revenue was $17 billion.收入170亿美元。
408That was up 47%.涨了47%
409So revenue is still climbing really fast.因此,收入仍在快速攀升。
410But here is the shock.但这里是震撼。
411They had an operating loss of $567 million.他们的运营损失为5.67亿美元.
412They lost over half a billion他们损失了5亿多
413in just three months.三个月后
414Yes.对
415Despite $17 billion in revenue.虽然收入170亿美元.
416That is crazy.太疯狂了
417Because just one quarter因为只有四分之一
418before that.在那个之前
419Yeah.对
420Anthropic had a profit of $974 million.安东尼有9.74亿美元的利润.
421Going from a huge profit to a从巨额利润走向
422massive loss.巨大的损失。
423That is a violent swing.这是一个暴力的秋千。
424It really is.没错
425Why did this happen?为什么会这样?
426How do you lose money你怎么输钱
427like that?像这样?
428The source points to rising compute expenses.来文方指出计算费用不断上升。
429And also slowing revenue growth.同时也减缓了收入增长.
430So the cost to stay at the top is hurting everyone.所以,留在顶端的代价 是伤害每个人。
431Even the biggest players.即使是最大的球员。
432You have to你必须
433constantly build new massive models to win.不断建立新的大规模模式以赢得胜利。
434The costs never stop growing.代价从未停止增长。
435This heavy spending is这种沉重的开支是
436causing major trouble for their upcoming IPO, right?给他们即将到来的IPO带来重大麻烦,对吧?
437Oh, absolutely.当然
438Timing an IPO is delicate.IPO的时机是微妙的。
439Investors want a safe bet.投资者想要一个安全的赌注。
440Yeah.对
441According to the Wall Street Journal, investors are pushing据华尔街日报报道,投资者正在推动
442Anthropic to lower its valuation.为了降低它的估价,
443Valuation.估价
444Yeah.对
445That is what the total company is worth, right?这就是整个公司的价值,对不对?
446Yes.对
447It sets the starting price for the shares.确定股票的起价
448What was the original number?原号码是多少?
449Anthropic wanted to安东尼想
450be valued at $2 trillion.价值2万亿美元。
451$2 trillion.2万亿元.
452That is historic.这是历史性的。
453The investors see投资者看到
454this new massive loss.这个新的巨大损失。
455They want them to drop it.他们想让他们放弃
456Drop it to what?丢到什么?
457They wanted to drop it to他们想放弃它
458$1.5 or $1.6 trillion.1.5美元或1.6万亿美元。
459So erasing hundreds of billions of dollars in value, just like that.因此,去除价值上千亿美元,就这样。
460It shows a deep fear from Wall Street.表明华尔街的恐惧
461This brings everything right back to you, the listener.这把一切都带回你,听众。
462Yeah,对
463let's connect this to daily life.让我们把这个和日常生活联系起来
464When you use a cool new AI tool on your phone, you know,当你用一个很酷的新AI工具 在你的手机上,你知道,
465you ask it a question.你问它一个问题。
466The answer pops up in three seconds.答案在三秒钟内就出来了
467Right.对
468It feels like magic.感觉就像魔法
469But remember,但是记住,
470there is a massive, expensive money machine running behind it.后面有一台巨大的昂贵的货币机器
471Burning electricity and cash.烧电和现金。
472The ultimate test is coming.终极考验即将到来.
473Will customers actually pay higher prices for the next big model?顾客真的会为下一个大模型支付更高的价格吗?
474Will you pay $50 a month instead of $20?你会每月付50美元而不是20美元吗?
475Exactly.没错
476If the answer is no, this whole system might break.如果答案是否定的,整个系统可能会崩溃.
477It is a risky business model.这是一个危险的商业模式。
478I want to leave you with a final thought today,今天我想给你一个最后的想法
479something to explore on your own.独家探索的东西
480A big question for the future.未来大问.
481Yes.对
482We just saw that a giant我们刚刚看到一个巨人
483company making $17 billion a quarter can suddenly lose $567 million.公司每季度赚170亿美元 可能会突然损失5.67亿美元
484Just trying to stay competitive.只是想保持竞争力
485Right.对
486So what happens when investor money finally runs out?那么当投资者的钱终于用光了会怎样呢?
487That is the scary part.这是可怕的部分。
488Will only one or two massive AI companies be left standing in the whole world?全世界只有一两家大型AI公司能站在这里吗?
489Because因为
490no one else can afford to play the game.没有人可以负担游戏。
491Exactly.没错
492Well, we just have a tiny monopoly嗯,我们只是有一个小垄断
493running all the world's AI.运行所有世界的AI。
494It is definitely something to watch as this IPO happens.随着IPO的出现,这绝对是值得注意的。
495Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive.非常感谢你和我们一起下潜
496Keep questioning the business继续质疑生意
497behind the tools.工具的后面,我们去
498We will catch you on the next one.下一次我们会抓住你的
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