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| 0:04 | The news is cold comfort for investors who are on edge following last week's massive | 上个星期的大规模投资令投资者感到冷淡舒适 |
| 0:08 | tech sell-off. | 技术销售。 |
| 0:09 | Today we're seeing a rebound in Asia, but for how long? | 今天,亚洲出现反弹,但持续了多久? |
| 0:13 | Oil prices dip as Trump says further attacks against Iran are unlikely despite a hootie | 石油价格下滑, 特朗普说, |
| 0:18 | strike on Saudi Aramco's offices. | 沙特石油公司的办事处遭到袭击。 |
| 0:21 | And caught on camera as shoplifting surges in the UK, we look at the new tech helping | 在英国的店铺里 被摄像头拍到了 我们看着新的技术帮助 |
| 0:27 | one major supermarket crackdown on retail crime. | 一个主要的超市 镇压零售犯罪。 |
| 0:33 | Welcome. | 欢迎 |
| 0:33 | You're with Business Today in London with me, Sally Bundock. | 你和萨莉·本多克一起在伦敦做生意 |
| 0:36 | But now let's turn to the latest on the situation in the Middle East. | 但现在让我们谈谈中东局势的最新情况。 |
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| 1 | The news is cold comfort for investors who are on edge following last week's massive | 上个星期的大规模投资令投资者感到冷淡舒适 |
| 2 | tech sell-off. | 技术销售。 |
| 3 | Today we're seeing a rebound in Asia, but for how long? | 今天,亚洲出现反弹,但持续了多久? |
| 4 | Oil prices dip as Trump says further attacks against Iran are unlikely despite a hootie | 石油价格下滑, 特朗普说, |
| 5 | strike on Saudi Aramco's offices. | 沙特石油公司的办事处遭到袭击。 |
| 6 | And caught on camera as shoplifting surges in the UK, we look at the new tech helping | 在英国的店铺里 被摄像头拍到了 我们看着新的技术帮助 |
| 7 | one major supermarket crackdown on retail crime. | 一个主要的超市 镇压零售犯罪。 |
| 8 | Welcome. | 欢迎 |
| 9 | You're with Business Today in London with me, Sally Bundock. | 你和萨莉·本多克一起在伦敦做生意 |
| 10 | But now let's turn to the latest on the situation in the Middle East. | 但现在让我们谈谈中东局势的最新情况。 |
| 11 | At the weekend, the Saudi Aramco Tower in Riyadh's financial district was hit by falling | 周末,利雅得金融区的沙特石油公司大楼被倒塌击中。 |
| 12 | shrapnel in what the Saudi Arabia's Ministry of Energy says was an attempted attack. | 沙特阿拉伯能源部的弹片是企图攻击 |
| 13 | Yemen's hooties say they carried out the attack and had also targeted the airport in | 也门的呼声说,他们发动了袭击,并且还袭击了也门境内的机场。 |
| 14 | Riyadh once again and Aramco oil storage tanks. | 里亚德和Aramco的储油罐。 |
| 15 | Meanwhile, President Trump on Sunday said he was highly unlikely to restart open war | 同时,特朗普总统在星期日表示,他极不可能重启公开战争. |
| 16 | with Iran, but announced a task force intended to blockade Iran's land borders is now in | 与伊朗,但宣布一个特遣部队 打算封锁伊朗的陆地边界 |
| 17 | full effect. | 完全生效。 |
| 18 | The so-called Task Force Iron Gate is meant to disrupt routes into Iran that the US military | 所谓的"特遣部队铁门" 意在破坏进入伊朗的路线 |
| 19 | says are used for shipments of weapons. | 说用来运送武器 |
| 20 | Oil prices, as you would expect, are reacting to every twist and turn. | 油价,如你所料, 正在对每个曲折和转折作出反应。 |
| 21 | And this is what a barrel of Brent crude is currently trading at around $96. | 这是一桶布伦特原油目前以96美元左右的价格交易。 |
| 22 | Well, John Sfakianakis is chief economist and head of research at the Gulf Research | John Sfakianakis是海湾研究首席经济学家 兼研究负责人 |
| 23 | Center. | 中间. |
| 24 | I asked him for his understanding of the latest developments. | 我请他了解最新的事态发展。 |
| 25 | Quite baffling for a lot of people. | 对很多人来说很困惑 |
| 26 | And we are in this gray zone where President Trump could decide to attack the region. | 我们处在一个灰色地带 川普总统可以决定攻击这个区域 |
| 27 | Of course, a lot of the regional players and decision makers are expecting some sort of | 当然,许多区域行动者和决策者都期望有某种 |
| 28 | European attack. | 欧洲攻击。 |
| 29 | So I will not be surprised. | 所以我不会感到惊讶。 |
| 30 | Also I'm not surprised with the rhetoric, the change of mind, of tone, also because | 我也对言辞,思想的改变,语气的改变并不感到惊讶,也因为 |
| 31 | of the impact of the midterm election. | 中期选举的影响。 |
| 32 | So a bit of politics is playing into the mix. | 所以,一些政治 正在发挥在混合。 |
| 33 | But there is a third aircraft carrier coming into the region around the 18th, 19th of November. | 但11月18日,19日左右有第三艘航空母舰进入该地区. |
| 34 | And that could change diametrically things in the Gulf. | 这可以改变海湾的几何情况。 |
| 35 | What is not changing is the attacks coming from the Houthis. | 没有改变的是来自胡塞人的攻击。 |
| 36 | And I think that's very essential. | 我认为这很重要。 |
| 37 | As you mentioned, both the airport and the Aramco Tower have been hit. | 正如你提到的,机场和Aramco塔都遭到袭击。 |
| 38 | Whether it's sharpened or not, that's a muted issue. | 无论是否磨磨,这是一个哑巴问题. |
| 39 | Still, it creates a kind of a noise about the impact of the war or at least the corollary | 不过,它制造了一种 关于战争的影响的噪音 或者至少必然的结果 |
| 40 | and the whole issue concerning the attacks from Yemen. | 和关于也门袭击的整个问题。 |
| 41 | So quite concerning news, Sally. | 莎莉,关于新闻 |
| 42 | Yeah, concerning news. | 是啊,关于新闻。 |
| 43 | And I would imagine the entire region is on edge. | 我想整个地区都处于边缘。 |
| 44 | What are you hearing about any conversations that might be going on behind the scenes? | 你听到什么 任何谈话可能发生在幕后? |
| 45 | We're told all the time that there are various players from different sides talking about | 我们经常被告知 不同方面有不同的玩家在谈论 |
| 46 | the possible end to all of this. | 可能结束这一切。 |
| 47 | Yes, I mean, there is always an involvement, especially by certain countries such as Qatar, | 是的,我的意思是,总是有参与,特别是某些国家,如卡塔尔, |
| 48 | that wants to push ahead the diplomacy card. | 想要推进外交卡。 |
| 49 | But we've seen it before, whereby there is diplomacy and immediately a few hours later, | 但是,我们以前见过, 在那里有外交 和立即几小时后, |
| 50 | there is war. | 有战争。 |
| 51 | So it's really unpredictable. | 所以这是非常不可预测的。 |
| 52 | Yes, we do see more of a movement. | 是的,我们确实看到更多的运动。 |
| 53 | Many participants, Saudi, Qatar, the UAE. | 许多与会者,沙特,卡塔尔,阿联酋. |
| 54 | However, Marco Rubio just a few hours ago said that he doesn't understand the position | 不过,马可·鲁比奥几小时前刚刚说 他不明白这个位置 |
| 55 | of Iran. | 安全理事会 |
| 56 | And remember, Iran is not going to use all this leeway to push ahead with their demands. | 记住,伊朗不会利用所有这些余地推进他们的要求。 |
| 57 | And they will be far more aggressive. | 他们将会更加积极 |
| 58 | So it really depends on how the world and Trump especially wants to respond to this | 所以这真的取决于世界和川普 如何特别想对此作出反应 |
| 59 | aggression. | 侵略 |
| 60 | Still to come, AI and robots take centre stage at the Web Summit in Lisbon. | AI和机器人在里斯本的网络峰会上占据中心位置。 |
| 61 | But will the conference be overshadowed by concerns over a tech slowdown around the world | 但对于全球科技减速, |
| 62 | and across the UK? | 横跨英国? |
| 63 | This is BBC News. | 这是BBC新闻。 |
| 64 | 今天你和BBC新闻的Business Today合作 | |
| 65 | Representatives of more than 190 countries are gathering in Antalya in Turkey today for | 今天,190多个国家的代表正在土耳其安塔利亚集会。 |
| 66 | the start of COP 31, with the aim to find a global consensus on how to prevent and deal | 旨在就如何防止和处理 |
| 67 | with global warming. | 与全球变暖。 |
| 68 | Australia will this year be leading the negotiations, working closely with Pacific Island countries. | 澳大利亚今年将与太平洋岛屿国家密切合作,领导谈判。 |
| 69 | And there's a lot at stake with scientists warning this year could be on course to be | 科学家们今年的警告 可能要上路了 |
| 70 | the hottest on record. | 最热的纪录。 |
| 71 | Sandhya Sabapathy是Kaleidoscope公司的首席执行官和创始人,这是一个可持续性 | |
| 72 | and business resilience company. | 和企业复原力公司。 |
| 73 | I asked her about her hopes for the summit, especially given the fact the US is not attending. | 我问她对峰会的希望,特别是鉴于美国没有出席。 |
| 74 | The way I see it is that the pledge era is over. | 我的看法是,誓言时代已经结束。 |
| 75 | It's now more about talking about the cost. | 现在更多的是谈论成本。 |
| 76 | And companies and countries across the world that will win at COP 31 are going to be the | 在缔约方大会第三十一届会议上获胜的公司和国家将成为 |
| 77 | ones that are not just talking about progress, but actually showing live architecture and | 不只是在谈论进步 而是在展示现场建筑 |
| 78 | live progress in the area. | 在该领域取得实实在在的进展。 |
| 79 | The process in COP in general has been in tension quite a lot, but I'm of the belief | 整个缔约方会议的过程一直很紧张 但我相信 |
| 80 | that the core principle of negotiation at COP is still pretty effective. | 认为缔约方会议谈判的核心原则仍然相当有效。 |
| 81 | However, smaller conferences like the Santa Marta one, which was the fossil fuel phaseout | 但是,像圣玛尔塔那样的小型会议 是化石燃料的淘汰 |
| 82 | conference, were sometimes a bit more effective because you could talk about more pointed | 开会时,有时效果会好一点 因为你可以多说点 |
| 83 | topics as well as have a smaller, maybe more voluntary set up to drive progress. | 以及建立规模较小、也许更自愿的单位来推动进展。 |
| 84 | So in my in my eyes, there is still a lot to be hopeful for, but it's a tough year when | 所以在我的眼中,仍然有很多希望, 但这是一个艰难的一年,当 |
| 85 | it comes to COP 31. | 它涉及到缔约方会议第三十一届会议。 |
| 86 | Yeah, it's a very tough year because everyone is looking to see delivery on past promises, | 是啊,这是一个非常艰难的一年 因为每个人都在寻找 兑现过去的承诺, |
| 87 | which includes some three hundred billion dollars a year in climate finance for poorer | 包括每年为较穷国家提供约3 000亿美元的气候融资 |
| 88 | nations by 2035. | 到2035年时, |
| 89 | That's a that's a big number. | 这是一个很大的数字。 |
| 90 | 2035 is not that far away. | 2035不是那么远。 |
| 91 | And yet we've got richer countries who are having to divert funds that may have gone | 然而,我们还有更富有的国家 不得不转移资金 可能已经走了 |
| 92 | to climate to defence. | 保护气候 |
| 93 | Now, I fully agree with that. | 我完全同意这一点。 |
| 94 | And I think that one of the key key bylines that we're hoping from this COP is that commitment | 我认为我们所希望的 党代会的关键旁白之一是承诺 |
| 95 | to the tripling of the adaptation finance number that you just mentioned and to have | 您刚才提到的适应融资号码的三倍 |
| 96 | clear milestones to that 2035 target, because so far it has only been that high level target. | 2035年目标显然具有里程碑意义,因为到目前为止,它只是这一高目标。 |
| 97 | And and the monetary instruments have not been developed quite yet. | 而货币工具还没有开发出来。 |
| 98 | The other bits that I'm probably a bit keen on as well is to figure out a bit more on | 其他我可能也有点热衷于 找出更多关于 |
| 99 | the just transition mechanism. | 公正的过渡机制。 |
| 100 | So how do we actually upscale and reskill workforces as they need to transition in these | 因此,我们如何真正提高劳动力规模和技能 因为他们需要转型在这些 |
| 101 | poorer countries, the global south, into a much more cleaner economy? | 更贫穷的国家,即全球南方,进入更清洁的经济? |
| 102 | And finally, the fossil fuel phase out, as I've mentioned, it would be really great to | 最后,矿物燃料的淘汰,正如我所提到的, 这将是真正的伟大的 |
| 103 | actually see that in the final text, as opposed to just being a fringe conversation like | 实际上,在最后文本中看到, 而不是仅仅作为一个边缘谈话,比如 |
| 104 | it was in the past. | 这是在过去。 |
| 105 | Sandhya Sabapathy there from Kaleidoscope. | 桑希娅・萨巴西 从卡莱多望镜那里。 |
| 106 | Now, if we turn our attention to retail in the UK, almost four in five shop workers have | 现在,如果我们把注意力转向英国的零售, 几乎五分之四的店员 |
| 107 | experienced abuse from the public in the past year, according to new figures from the Retail | 根据零售业的新数字,去年曾受到公众的虐待。 |
| 108 | Trust. | 信义. |
| 109 | The charity is launching a major UK wide drive urging shoppers to show greater kindness and | 该慈善机构正在发起一个大型的英国大赛,敦促购物者表现出更大的善意, |
| 110 | respect ahead of the Christmas shopping surge. | 在圣诞购物潮之前尊重你 |
| 111 | Our retail correspondent Emma Simpson has been given exclusive access by Sainsbury's | 我们的零售记者艾玛·辛普森 被森斯伯里独家访问 |
| 112 | to find out how the supermarket giant is tackling the problem of retail crime, theft and abuse. | 找出超市巨头如何解决零售犯罪,盗窃和虐待的问题. |
| 113 | It doesn't get more brazen than this. | 它不会比这更无耻 |
| 114 | These two have dragged a wheelie bin into a supermarket and are loading it up with booze | 这两个人把一个轮椅桶拖进超市 装满了酒 |
| 115 | and detergent. | 还有洗涤剂 |
| 116 | Shoplifting is rife everywhere. | 偷东西到处都是 |
| 117 | This pair walk straight out. | 这对直走出去。 |
| 118 | But retailers are fighting back. | 但零售商在反击。 |
| 119 | Facial recognition technology is one of the fastest growing tools. | 面部识别技术是增长最快的工具之一. |
| 120 | It's being used at the Sainsbury's store in Whitechapel. | 正在白教堂的森斯伯里商店使用. |
| 121 | I've come to see and test how the system works. | 我来看看系统如何运作 |
| 122 | To do it, Sainsbury's has put me onto the watch list so as I go in, that camera is scanning | 为了做到这一点,森斯伯里已经把我列入监视名单 所以我进去时,摄像机正在扫描 |
| 123 | my face and comparing it with images of known offenders. | 我的脸 和已知罪犯的影像比较 |
| 124 | Within seconds, an alert is being sent to staff in the store. | 几秒钟后,就向店里的工作人员发出警报。 |
| 125 | The system says it's a match. | 系统说相合. |
| 126 | I'm on the database of individuals linked to previous retail crime and it's now down | 我在跟以前零售犯罪有关的个人数据库里 现在已经下架了 |
| 127 | to staff to act. | 要求工作人员采取行动。 |
| 128 | Emma, you've been flagged. | 艾玛 你被标记了 |
| 129 | If this was real, I would have to ask you to leave. | 如果这是真的 我不得不请你离开 |
| 130 | This was one of Sainsbury's first stores to get the technology. | 这是森斯伯里最早获得技术的商店之一. |
| 131 | They say it's needed. | 他们说这是需要的。 |
| 132 | We see a lot of things like verbal abuse. | 我们看到很多像辱骂的东西。 |
| 133 | We see physical abuse. | 我们看到身体虐待。 |
| 134 | For myself, I've had an incident where someone's telling me, you know, I know where you work | 对于我自己来说,我有一个事件 有人告诉我, 你知道,我知道你在哪里工作 |
| 135 | and I'm going to wait for you outside and it can get very scary at times. | 我会在外面等你 有时会很可怕 |
| 136 | She says retail crime is now down. | 她说现在零售犯罪已经减少 |
| 137 | So far, only 3% of offenders on the watch list have come back. | 到目前为止,观察名单上只有3%的罪犯回来了. |
| 138 | In Oxford, a woman enters trying to cover her face. | 在牛津,一个女人进来试图遮住她的脸. |
| 139 | She doesn't spot the in-store detective on the left. | 她没发现左边的店里侦探 |
| 140 | They're trained security staff and blend in. | 他们是训练有素的保安人员 并融入其中。 |
| 141 | They travel around targeting stores with the biggest problems. | 他们到处走来走去 以那些有最大问题的商店为目标 |
| 142 | The shoplifter has been filling her bags with stakes and is intercepted on the way out. | 店主已经用木桩装满了行李 出去时被拦截了 |
| 143 | This is where they gather all the intelligence and evidence, presenting it to police. | 这是他们收集所有情报和证据的地方 把情报和证据交给警方 |
| 144 | It's led to more than 200 convictions this year. | 导致今年定罪200余人. |
| 145 | A glimpse of the efforts to tackle retail crime. | 概述打击零售犯罪的努力。 |
| 146 | But is this surveillance a step too far? | 但是这种监视是不是太远了? |
| 147 | I appreciate that there's always going to be a small group of people or a group of people | 我很感激 总会有一小群人或一群人 |
| 148 | who find this type of technology challenging. | 他们认为这种技术具有挑战性。 |
| 149 | But the statistics speak for themselves in terms of its efficiency and effectiveness. | 但是,从统计的效率和成效来看,这些统计数字是站得住脚的。 |
| 150 | And we have to prioritise the vast majority, which for us is the hundreds of thousands | 我们必须把绝大多数人放在优先位置, 对我们来说是数十万 |
| 151 | of customers and our 140,000 colleagues that work in our stores. | 我们的14万同事在我们的商店工作 |
| 152 | I've been in retail for 30 years and it is the worst we have ever seen it. | 我零售了30年 这是我们见过最糟糕的一次 |
| 153 | Sainsbury's is now expanding facial recognition technology to 350 stores by the spring. | 森斯伯里现在正在将面部识别技术扩展到泉水之前的350家商店. |
| 154 | Emma Simpson, BBC News. | 艾玛·辛普森,BBC新闻. |
| 155 | And finally, if we look at AI once again, global tech leaders are meeting in Lisbon | 最后,如果我们再看一次AI, 全球科技领袖们正在里斯本开会。 |
| 156 | for the annual Web Summit this week and the growing concerns about artificial intelligence | 和对人工智能的日益关切 |
| 157 | is focusing minds. | 专注思想。 |
| 158 | So also on the agenda, this year's discussions promise to move well beyond chatbots and generative AI. | 因此,在议程上,今年的讨论承诺远远超越聊天机和基因AI。 |
| 159 | And into the world of robotics, with the focus increasingly on what happens when AI leaves | 进入机器人的世界 越来越关注AI离开后会发生什么 |
| 160 | the screen and begins to interact with the physical world. | 开始与物理世界互动。 |
| 161 | Babak Hodjjat是AI Clease的首席技术官 | |
| 162 | He's also co-inventor of the technology that went on to become Apple Siri. | 他还共同发明了后来成为苹果西里的技术. |
| 163 | I asked him what he is hoping to see in Lisbon. | 我问他想在里斯本看到什么 |
| 164 | Well, there's going to be a lot of talk about agents and, you know, the web as we know it | 有很多关于特工和网络的话题 |
| 165 | is going to be changing now that agents on behalf of humans are, you know, extracting | 代表人类的特工们 正在提取 |
| 166 | data and doing stuff on the web. | 数据与在网络上做的事情。 |
| 167 | So I'm personally very excited about announcing this new way of allowing even mom and pop | 所以,我个人非常兴奋 宣布这种新的方式 允许甚至妈妈和流行 |
| 168 | shops to be able to run their own agents in their own websites and have those agents talk | 商店可以自己在自己的网站上 经营自己的代理 并让这些代理谈话 |
| 169 | to each other. | 彼此之间。 |
| 170 | So we're launching that along with the hackathon. | 所以,我们要启动 与黑客。 |
| 171 | 环球代理网站(Worldwideagenticweb.org)上有关于它的信息,供人们去 | |
| 172 | of prize and, you know, we're doing this with some partners. | 我们和一些合伙人一起做这个 |
| 173 | It's completely open and in the spirit of the web. | 完全开放,并本着网络精神. |
| 174 | So these are these are AI assisted agents, aren't they? | 这些是AI的助手,不是吗? |
| 175 | And basically what you're saying is you're making this available to anyone, any company, | 基本上你的意思是 你把这个提供给任何人 任何公司 |
| 176 | no matter how small. | 无论多么小。 |
| 177 | Exactly right. | 没错 |
| 178 | Like the early days of the web, when everyone had a website, we want everyone to be able | 像网络早期, 当每个人都有一个网站, 我们希望每个人都能够 |
| 179 | to represent their selves and their businesses with agents out there. | 代表他们自己和他们的生意 在那里的代理人。 |
| 180 | But what are the risks coupled with that? | 但是,还有什么风险呢? |
| 181 | Because when we've heard about agents going rogue, doing things that were not instructed | 因为当我们听说特工叛变时 做一些没有指示的事 |
| 182 | by the likes of open AI and chat GPT having to reveal that these things happened in the | 和聊天的GPT 必须透露这些事情发生在 |
| 183 | past, how can you prevent that from happening going forward? | 过去,你怎么能阻止这种情况发生呢? |
| 184 | Well, when you get an autonomous agent and give it full command line access, so essentially | 好吧,当你得到一个自主的代理 并给予它完整的命令线访问, 所以本质上 |
| 185 | you allow it to do anything with your laptop, that's a recipe for disaster. | 你允许它做任何事情 用你的笔记本电脑, 这是一个处方灾难。 |
| 186 | And that's something that we really are not advocating for. | 这是我们真正不主张的。 |
| 187 | We're saying we have to engineer it, you have to safeguard it, it has to be trustworthy. | 我们说的是,我们必须设计它, 你必须保护它,它必须是可信的。 |
| 188 | And what it can do is what that business allows it to do. | 它能做的就是它能做的 |
| 189 | And that way, you know, you really, really contain these agents. | 这样,你知道,你真的,真的 包含这些特工。 |
| 190 | But how do you prevent people from not following that advice or that regulation, as it were, | 但你如何阻止人们不听从建议 或条例,因为它是, |
| 191 | and using agents in ways that are actually detrimental to the company or to others? | 并且以实际上不利于公司或他人的方式利用代理人? |
| 192 | Yeah, so that is your brand. | 是啊,这就是你的品牌。 |
| 193 | It is your company. | 这是你的公司。 |
| 194 | If you have an agent on there, you better make sure that it's safe and secure. | 如果你在那里有特工 你最好确保安全 |
| 195 | And of course, there's a lot of ways that we can run guardrails against these agentic | 当然,有很多方法 我们可以运行护卫 这些代理 |
| 196 | systems. | 系统。 |
| 197 | And as I said, if we don't allow them, let them loose to do whatever they want using | 就像我说的,如果我们不允许他们, 让他们松绑 做他们想做的 |
| 198 | your computer, we're much, much safer than, you know, autonomously allowing them to do, | 你的电脑,我们比,你知道, 自动允许他们做安全得多, |
| 199 | you know, go out there and hack into various different companies. | 你知道,去那里 黑进不同的公司。 |
| 200 | So, you know, by design, this is secure. | 所以,你知道,从设计上讲,这是安全的。 |
| 201 | Really interesting conversation. | 非常有趣的谈话。 |
| 202 | I wish we had more time, Babak Hodjjat there, Chief Technology Officer for Cognizant. | 我希望我们有更多的时间 巴巴克·霍贾特 认识首席技术官 |
| 203 | And just to see, you can see Jensen Huang there is our top story on the business page | 顺便看看,你可以看到Jensen Huang 商业版的顶级新闻 |
| 204 | on the BBC News website and app. | 在BBC新闻网站和应用程序. |
| 205 | If you wish to get more detail on that story and other news in business and finance, you | 如果你想更详细地了解 故事和其他新闻 在商业和金融,你 |
| 206 | know where to go. | 知何处去. |
| 207 | Do take a look. | 请看 |
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