【稳定更新】20261024 BBC News 英语半小时磨
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:06 | Live from London, this is BBC News. | 伦敦现场,这是英国广播公司新闻 |
| 0:08 | The Duchess of Sussex has said she's deeply distressed | 萨塞克斯公爵夫人说她很伤心 |
| 0:12 | at the news that police in the Philippines | 在菲律宾警方的消息中 |
| 0:14 | are investigating child sex image allegations | 正在调查儿童性形象指控 |
| 0:17 | against her father, Thomas Markle. | 对抗她的父亲托马斯·马克尔. |
| 0:20 | Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu | 以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡 |
| 0:22 | tells the military to prepare for the full closure | 告诉军方准备全面关闭 |
| 0:25 | of the occupied West Bank in response to a shooting | 为回应枪击事件, |
| 0:27 | which wounded at least five people. | 伤者至少五人 |
| 0:30 | Ukraine suggests restrictions have not yet been lifted | 乌克兰建议尚未取消限制 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Live from London, this is BBC News. | 伦敦现场,这是英国广播公司新闻 |
| 2 | The Duchess of Sussex has said she's deeply distressed | 萨塞克斯公爵夫人说她很伤心 |
| 3 | at the news that police in the Philippines | 在菲律宾警方的消息中 |
| 4 | are investigating child sex image allegations | 正在调查儿童性形象指控 |
| 5 | against her father, Thomas Markle. | 对抗她的父亲托马斯·马克尔. |
| 6 | Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu | 以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡 |
| 7 | tells the military to prepare for the full closure | 告诉军方准备全面关闭 |
| 8 | of the occupied West Bank in response to a shooting | 为回应枪击事件, |
| 9 | which wounded at least five people. | 伤者至少五人 |
| 10 | Ukraine suggests restrictions have not yet been lifted | 乌克兰建议尚未取消限制 |
| 11 | on the key Starlink satellite systems, | 在星际链接卫星系统上 |
| 12 | despite assurances from President Trump and Elon Musk. | 尽管特朗普总统和伊隆·穆斯克保证 |
| 13 | The BBC has found evidence that Sudanese paramilitary fighters | BBC发现苏丹准军事战士的证据 |
| 14 | destroyed El Fasha's healthcare system | 摧毁了El Fasha的医疗保健系统 |
| 15 | and attacked medical workers | 袭击医务工作者 |
| 16 | during last year's siege of the city. | 去年围城期间 |
| 17 | The UK braces for the first of two major storms | 英国迎来了两场大风暴中的第一个 |
| 18 | hitting at the south coast as power cuts | 南海岸因断电 |
| 19 | hit more than 18,000 homes. | 袭击了18 000多户家庭。 |
| 20 | And back beneath the surface, Blue Planet returns | 回到地表之下,蓝星球回归 |
| 21 | with extraordinary sea life and one very brave octopus. | 有着非凡的海洋生物 和一个非常勇敢的章鱼 |
| 22 | Hello, I'm Lewis Vaughan-Jones. | 你好,我是刘易斯·沃恩 -琼斯 |
| 23 | Welcome to the programme. | 欢迎加入节目 |
| 24 | We're gonna start with this breaking news. | 我们要从这个突发新闻开始 |
| 25 | The Duchess of Sussex says she is deeply distressed | 萨塞克斯公爵夫人说她很伤心 |
| 26 | about child sex image accusations | 关于儿童性形象的指控 |
| 27 | against her father, Thomas Markle, | 对抗她的父亲托马斯·马克尔 |
| 28 | which have been reported in the last 24 hours. | 过去24小时内已经报告过 |
| 29 | Authorities in the Philippines have confirmed | 菲律宾当局证实 |
| 30 | they're investigating child sex abuse allegations | 他们正在调查儿童性虐待指控 |
| 31 | against Thomas Markle. | 对托马斯・马克尔。 |
| 32 | After The Sun newspaper reported | "太阳报"报道后 |
| 33 | he was being investigated by police. | 警方正在调查他 |
| 34 | Paper alleges a huge stash of child sex abuse images | 报纸上说一大堆性虐待儿童的照片 |
| 35 | were found at his home in the Philippines. | 他在菲律宾的家中被发现 |
| 36 | In the last half hour, | 半个小时后 |
| 37 | Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex, has released a statement. | 萨塞克斯公爵夫人梅根发表了一份声明。 |
| 38 | It says, | 上面写着 |
| 39 | I am deeply distressed at the news | 我对新闻深感悲痛 |
| 40 | that has come to light in the last 24 hours | 过去24小时已经曝光 |
| 41 | and my thoughts are with any children | 我的想法与任何孩子在一起, |
| 42 | who may have been harmed. | 他们可能受到伤害。 |
| 43 | In 2018, a letter was sent to the Metropolitan Police | 2018年,向大同市警方发文. |
| 44 | and Royalty and Specialist Protection. | 以及王室和专家保护 |
| 45 | That letter was subsequently shared with me. | 这封信后来交给我。 |
| 46 | It made troubling and disturbing allegations | 它提出了令人不安的指控 |
| 47 | against my father and I was given assurances | 对我父亲和我保证 |
| 48 | that these were being investigated. | 他们正在接受调查 |
| 49 | I hope it can now be understood | 我希望现在可以理解 |
| 50 | that despite certain media publications' distortions | 尽管某些媒体出版物的歪曲 |
| 51 | over the years, any distance from my father and my choice | 多年来,任何距离 我父亲和我的选择 |
| 52 | to not allow him to have contact with our children | 不允许他接触我们的孩子 |
| 53 | was for one reason, to protect them. | 是为了保护他们 |
| 54 | I trusted that the authorities were doing the same | 我相信当局也这样做 |
| 55 | for other families, | 对于其他家庭, |
| 56 | although the breadth of what has now been uncovered | 虽然现在所发现的广度 |
| 57 | is more sickening than one could ever imagine. | 更令人作呕 无法想象。 |
| 58 | My sincerest hope is that justice will be fully served. | 我最真诚的希望是,正义将得到充分伸张。 |
| 59 | The priority remains the safety and protection | 优先事项仍然是安全和保护 |
| 60 | of innocent children. | 无辜的孩子。 |
| 61 | Thomas Markle has yet to respond to the allegations. | 托马斯·马克尚未对指控作出答复。 |
| 62 | A little earlier, our correspondent, | 稍早一点 我们的记者 |
| 63 | Rajini Vaidyanathan,给我们带来了最新消息。 | |
| 64 | These reports first emerged in the Sun newspaper | 这些报道最早出现在太阳报 |
| 65 | and they said that Thomas Markle's senior son, | 他们说托马斯・马克的长子 |
| 66 | Thomas Markle Jr., had discovered a stash | 小托马斯·马克尔发现了一个藏品 |
| 67 | of child sex abuse images, | 儿童性虐待图像, |
| 68 | allegedly four boxes found at his home in Cebu, | 据称在宿务的家中发现了四个箱子, |
| 69 | in the Philippines, and Thomas Markle Jr. | 在菲律宾,还有小托马斯·马克尔。 |
| 70 | then told the newspaper that he reported his father | 然后告诉报纸,他报告了他的父亲 |
| 71 | to the authorities in the Philippines. | 致菲律宾当局。 |
| 72 | Now, I'll tell you what the statement | 现在,我告诉你是什么声明 |
| 73 | from the Philippines is first, | 从菲律宾第一, |
| 74 | before we move on to what we've heard | 在我们开始之前 |
| 75 | from the Duchess of Sussex, | 来自萨塞克斯公爵夫人 |
| 76 | because after those reports in the newspapers, | 因为在报纸报道之后 |
| 77 | the Department of Justice in the Philippines | 菲律宾司法部 |
| 78 | issued a statement saying it is investigating reports | 发表声明称正在调查报告 |
| 79 | involving an octogenarian American national | (a) 涉及美国八国国民 |
| 80 | who left child abuse videos and photos | 留下虐待儿童视频和照片的人 |
| 81 | in his home in Cebu province, | 在宿务省的家中 |
| 82 | and the Department of Justice there talking | 和司法部的谈话 |
| 83 | to the news agency in the Philippines | 致菲律宾新闻社 |
| 84 | saying that the department's anti-trafficking | 说部门反贩卖 |
| 85 | and online sexual abuse and exploitation | 性虐待和性剥削 |
| 86 | of children task forces, I quote, | 我引述, |
| 87 | currently investigating a matter. | 正在调查一个问题。 |
| 88 | They then name Thomas Markle Sr. in their statement | 然后,他们的名字托马斯・马克勒Sr. |
| 89 | and say that it's after, as I mentioned just then, | 并说它是之后, 正如我刚才提到的, |
| 90 | his son claimed he discovered a stash | 他儿子说他发现了一个藏物 |
| 91 | of illicit materials in his home. | 在他家里非法获取的材料。 |
| 92 | Thanks to Regine there bringing us the latest. | 多亏瑞金给我们带来了最新消息 |
| 93 | Of course, we'll be getting more details on that | 当然,我们会得到更多的细节 |
| 94 | as they come in. | 他们进来的时候 |
| 95 | And next, though, we're going to get more | 接下来,虽然,我们会得到更多的 |
| 96 | on our breaking news about Israel's | 关于以色列的突发新闻 |
| 97 | Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his decision. | 本雅明·内塔尼亚胡总理,他的决定. |
| 98 | He's instructed the military to prepare | 他指示军方准备 |
| 99 | for the closure of the entire occupied West Bank, | 关闭整个被占领的西岸, |
| 100 | as well as ordering his party to stop all political events. | 还命令他的政党停止一切政治事件。 |
| 101 | Five days out from the country's elections, | 离全国大选还有五天 |
| 102 | after five Israelis were wounded in a shooting | 5名以色列人在枪击中受伤 |
| 103 | near the city of Hebron. | 在希伯伦市附近 |
| 104 | These are the live pictures we have. | 这些是现场照片 |
| 105 | You can see the military presence there. | 你可以看到那里的军事存在。 |
| 106 | With me is our global affairs correspondent, | 与我为全球事务通讯员 |
| 107 | Sebastian Usher. | 塞巴斯蒂安·乌舍. |
| 108 | Sebastian, just talk us through what we know | 塞巴斯蒂安 告诉我们我们所知道的 |
| 109 | about what happened in the initial incident, first of all. | 首先,关于最初事件中发生的事情。 |
| 110 | Yeah, I mean, I think what's becoming clear, | 是啊,我的意思是,我认为什么 变得清楚, |
| 111 | this is particularly from what | 这尤其是从什么 |
| 112 | the Israeli military has said. | 以色列军方说。 |
| 113 | And also, there was an eyewitness, | 还有一位目击者 |
| 114 | an AFP photographer who was there and took some photos. | 一个法新社的摄影师 在场拍了一些照片 |
| 115 | He actually has a photograph of one of a Palestinian gunman, | 他有一张巴勒斯坦枪手的照片 |
| 116 | one of a suspected gunman, with a pistol in his hand. | 一个疑似枪手 手里拿着手枪 |
| 117 | And there's some video footage as well, | 还有一些录像片段 |
| 118 | showing the two assailants running around the area. | 两名袭击者在附近跑来跑去 |
| 119 | This is near a military checkpoint | 这里靠近军事检查站 |
| 120 | at the northern entrance into the city of Hebron. | 在希伯伦市北部入口处。 |
| 121 | And they jump out of a car, | 他们跳出一辆车, |
| 122 | and they run towards various places. | 他们奔向各处。 |
| 123 | What seems to have happened, | 似乎发生了什么事, |
| 124 | this is the way the Israeli military is framing this, | 以色列军方就是这样策划的, |
| 125 | is that they were planning to carry an attack | 他们计划发动攻击 |
| 126 | on civilians, potentially, but they were unable to do so. | 但他们无法这样做。 |
| 127 | So they opened fire on the military checkpoint, | 于是他们向军事检查站开火, |
| 128 | and then there was quite a lengthy gun battle between the two. | 然后两人之间又发生了一场漫长的枪战. |
| 129 | Now, the Israeli officials haven't named | 现在,以色列官员还没有命名 |
| 130 | or given any further information | 或提供任何进一步资料 |
| 131 | about the five Israelis who were wounded, | 关于五名受伤的以色列人, |
| 132 | but the implication is that at least some of them | 但这意味着至少其中一部分 |
| 133 | would be those personnel from the checkpoint. | 将是检查站的人员。 |
| 134 | We've heard that two, at least, are critically wounded. | 听说有两人伤势严重 |
| 135 | The two Palestinian gunmen were shot dead at the scene. | 两名巴勒斯坦枪手在现场被枪杀。 |
| 136 | And as you said there, | 正如你说的, |
| 137 | the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, | 以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡, |
| 138 | amongst other politicians in Israel, | 在以色列其他政治家中, |
| 139 | has immediately acted on this, as you say, | 正如你所说,已经立即就此事采取了行动, |
| 140 | calling for the military to prepare, | 呼吁军方准备, |
| 141 | although I think it's already pretty much there, | 虽然我想它已经差不多了, |
| 142 | a lockdown of the occupied West Bank. | 封锁被占领的西岸。 |
| 143 | That means for Palestinians, | 这意味着巴勒斯坦人, |
| 144 | they won't be able to move freely, | 他们不能自由行动, |
| 145 | and they won't be able to leave the West Bank | 他们无法离开西岸 |
| 146 | through the various exit points. | 穿过各个出口点。 |
| 147 | And also Hebron, the city near where this happened, | 希伯伦也一样 发生在这个城市附近 |
| 148 | completely locked down. | 完全关闭。 |
| 149 | Just remind us the background to all these crucial elections. | 只要提醒我们所有这些重要选举的背景。 |
| 150 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 151 | I mean, this comes, as you said in the introduction there, | 我的意思是,这是来, 正如你在介绍那里说, |
| 152 | five days before the elections, which are very, very close. | 在选举前五天,选举非常非常接近。 |
| 153 | No alliance. | 没有结盟。 |
| 154 | I mean, essentially Israel always relies in the end, | 我的意思是,本质上 以色列总是依赖, |
| 155 | whoever becomes Prime Minister, on a coalition of parties. | 谁成为总理,在政党联盟中。 |
| 156 | The Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, | 总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡 |
| 157 | has managed to actually survive four years, | 已经成功存活了四年, |
| 158 | a full term, with his coalition, | 一个完整的任期,与他的联盟, |
| 159 | which was over the 60 that you need in the Knesset. | 这是超过60你需要 在议会。 |
| 160 | But neither he nor his main challenger, Gadi Aizenkot, | 但他和他的主要挑战者 加迪·艾森科特 |
| 161 | at the moment, in the latest polls I've just seen | 在最新民调中 |
| 162 | from the Times of Israel, | 从以色列时代, |
| 163 | the major newspaper in Israel, | 以色列的主要报纸, |
| 164 | is saying they're both running neck and neck | 说他们双颈相搏 |
| 165 | at the moment of 51 seats. | 在51个座位上 |
| 166 | So that's falling well short of what they would need. | 因此,这远远没有达到他们所需要的。 |
| 167 | At the moment, the parties that might be the ones | 目前,可能是当事人 |
| 168 | that really decide what happens are the Arab parties. | 真正决定 会发生什么是阿拉伯政党。 |
| 169 | Whether they would go with Mr. Netanyahu | 他们会不会跟内塔尼亚胡先生走? |
| 170 | with all that's happened over the past few years, | 过去几年发生的一切 |
| 171 | that's a big question. | 这是一个大问题。 |
| 172 | They might be more likely to go with the other alliance. | 他们可能更可能 与另一个联盟。 |
| 173 | But certainly what's happened today, | 但今天发生的事 |
| 174 | this latest security issue, | 这个最新的安全问题, |
| 175 | and security is absolutely key, | 安全绝对是关键 |
| 176 | as it always is in Israeli elections, | 正如在以色列选举中一样, |
| 177 | but specifically this one, | 但具体地说,这个, |
| 178 | this will really come to the fore. | 这真的会成为重点 |
| 179 | And two of the most right wing, far right elements | 和两个最右翼,非常右翼元素 |
| 180 | within the current coalition, | 在目前的联盟内, |
| 181 | Itamar Ben-Gavir, the National Security Minister, | 国家安全部长伊塔玛尔·本-加维尔 |
| 182 | 和Bezalel Smotrich, 经济部长, | |
| 183 | Finance Minister, have both come out | 财政部长,都出来了 |
| 184 | with very strong statements about this. | 说得非常强烈 |
| 185 | Essentially, Mr. Ben-Gavir saying | 基本上,本-加维尔先生说: |
| 186 | that the Palestinian Authority | 巴勒斯坦权力机构的报告 |
| 187 | should be dismantled because of this. | 因此应该拆除。 |
| 188 | No implication the Palestinian Authority | 巴勒斯坦权力机构 |
| 189 | has any involvement in this. | 和这件事有关 |
| 190 | And Smotrich, Mr. Smotrich saying | 斯莫特里奇先生说 |
| 191 | that there should be an operation carried out by Israel, | 认为以色列应采取行动, |
| 192 | similar to what happened in Gaza and in Lebanon. | 类似在加沙和黎巴嫩发生的情况。 |
| 193 | So these are very, very strong statements. | 所以这些是非常,非常强烈的说法。 |
| 194 | This will play out, certainly in the coming hours, | 接下来的几小时里, |
| 195 | more and more, I mean, every potential candidate | 越来越,我的意思是,每一个潜在的候选人 |
| 196 | will be weighing in on this, | 将重负于此, |
| 197 | trying to find some way that it will benefit their campaign. | 试图找到某种方式 以利他们的竞选。 |
| 198 | I think at the moment it will benefit Mr. Netanyahu most | 我认为此刻,这对内塔尼亚胡先生最为有利。 |
| 199 | because he's always presented himself as the man | 因为他总是表现得像个男人 |
| 200 | who, when it comes down to it, will stand for security. | 当它降临的时候,谁将维护安全。 |
| 201 | Although, of course, his record, | 虽然,当然,他的记录, |
| 202 | October 7th, the Hamas attacks three years ago, | 10月7日,哈马斯三年前的袭击, |
| 203 | has also been his weak point. | 这也是他的弱点。 |
| 204 | So we'll see how this plays out, | 所以,我们会看到如何运行, |
| 205 | but definitely it will have big ramifications | 但肯定会有重大的后果 |
| 206 | within the elections. | 在选举中。 |
| 207 | Sebastian, thank you very much | 塞巴斯蒂安,谢谢你 |
| 208 | for running us through that. | 帮助我们度过难关 |
| 209 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 210 | Well, we're gonna speak now to Akram Al-Natje, | 我们现在要和阿克兰·纳特吉谈谈 |
| 211 | an independent journalist, joins us from Hebron. | 独立记者,从希伯伦加入我们。 |
| 212 | Thank you so much for coming on the programme. | 谢谢你来参加节目 |
| 213 | What have you been hearing from the ground there? | 你从地面上听到什么了? |
| 214 | Yeah, today now, after the shooting | 是啊,今天,在枪击之后 |
| 215 | at the entrance of the city of Hebron, | 在希伯伦市入口处, |
| 216 | Netanyahu declared a full closure | 内塔尼亚胡宣布完全关闭 |
| 217 | among West Bank and particularly Hebron. | 西岸,特别是希伯伦。 |
| 218 | We are talking about closing all entrants | и璶闽奔┮Τ秈ㄓ |
| 219 | of the city of Hebron now, all of the entrants are closed. | 希伯伦市所有入境者都被关闭了 |
| 220 | Nobody could come in or get out, | 没有人可以进出, |
| 221 | and people use long detour or they walk on their foot | 人们绕路走或步行 |
| 222 | to reach their homes or to reach their work. | 到达他们的家园或工作。 |
| 223 | Today is weekend, so there's not a lot of people | 今天是周末,所以没什么人 |
| 224 | who are walking and moving inside the city, | 他们走在城里, |
| 225 | but tomorrow is the start of the week. | 但明天是这个星期的开始。 |
| 226 | After the shooting and the entrance of the city of Hebron, | 在枪击事件和希伯伦市入口之后, |
| 227 | but it's the Israeli army stormed in the city of Hebron | 但以色列军队在希伯伦市发动了进攻 |
| 228 | and they stormed and they start to integrate | 他们冲进来,开始融合 |
| 229 | with the suspected people, | 与可疑的人, |
| 230 | the family of suspected people | 涉嫌人的家属 |
| 231 | who shot against the checkpoints, | 他们向检查站开枪, |
| 232 | which is closed the city of Hebron, | 即封闭希伯伦城, |
| 233 | the northern city, the northern entrance, sorry. | 北部城市,北部入口,对不起。 |
| 234 | So they stormed in their houses | 他们就冲进自己的房屋, |
| 235 | and they start to inspect their flats, | 他们开始检查自己的公寓, |
| 236 | their rooms, their properties, | 他们的房间,他们的财产, |
| 237 | and they start to investigate with their families. | 他们开始跟家人调查 |
| 238 | We are talking about two men who are Firas and Hamoudi Al-Jube | 我们说的是法拉斯和哈穆迪·朱贝 |
| 239 | from the city of Hebron, | 来自希伯伦市, |
| 240 | and the Israeli army also stormed in the city of Dura | 以色列军队还攻入杜拉市 |
| 241 | and the entrance or at the entrance of city of Dura, | 和杜拉市的入口处, |
| 242 | Israeli army shot a Palestinian car | 以色列军队射杀了一辆巴勒斯坦汽车 |
| 243 | and one civilian Palestinian was injured | 有一名巴勒斯坦平民受伤 |
| 244 | and he was moved to ICU in the Al Ahly hospital | 他被转到Al Ahly医院的重症监护室 |
| 245 | of Hebron. | 希伯伦 |
| 246 | Now the Israeli army brought a bulldozer | 现在以色列军队带来了一台推土机 |
| 247 | near the location of the shooting | 靠近射击地点 |
| 248 | on the northern entrance of the city | 在城市的北部入口处 |
| 249 | where the shoot happened to demolish some building | 拍摄时 拆除了一些建筑 |
| 250 | and some houses near this checkpoint. | 和靠近这个检查站的一些房子。 |
| 251 | The minister of finance, Mr. Smosres, | 财政部长斯莫斯雷斯先生, |
| 252 | has declared and announced an order | 已经宣布和宣布了一项命令 |
| 253 | to demolish many houses and buildings | 拆除许多房屋和建筑物; |
| 254 | beside the area and beside the checkpoint. | 在附近和检查站旁边 |
| 255 | Akram Al-Nachay,非常感谢你 | |
| 256 | for joining us through what you're hearing on the ground there. | 你从地面上听到的 加入我们 |
| 257 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 258 | Just wanna bring you some breaking news from France. | 我只是想给你带来一些法国的突发新闻 |
| 259 | This is after the protests last weekend | 这是在上周抗议之后 |
| 260 | that turned to rioting. | 这变成了暴乱。 |
| 261 | We are hearing from the interior minister | 我们听到内政部长的消息了 |
| 262 | via the AFP news agency. | 通过AFP通讯社. |
| 263 | France is going to deploy 70,000 security forces | 法国将部署70 000名安全部队 |
| 264 | for the protests this Saturday. | 为了本周六的抗议 |
| 265 | So 70,000 security forces will be on the streets | 所以,7万个安全部队将上街 |
| 266 | for expected protests this Saturday. | 为了本周六的抗议活动 |
| 267 | This is after criticism that effectively | 这是经过批评后 有效的 |
| 268 | authorities were not ready and not prepared | 当局没有做好准备,也没有做好准备 |
| 269 | for what happened last weekend. | 上周发生的事 |
| 270 | So a significant step there | 这么重要的一步 |
| 271 | announced by the interior minister. | 由内政部长宣布。 |
| 272 | Now around the world and across the UK, this is BBC News. | 现在全世界和整个英国, 这是英国广播公司新闻。 |
| 273 | This is BBC News. | 这是BBC新闻。 |
| 274 | President Trump says SpaceX's Starshield satellite network | 川普总统说SpaceX的星屏卫星网络 |
| 275 | is once again running at full speed in Ukraine | 乌克兰再次全速运行 |
| 276 | and that Elon Musk had restored it. | 伊隆·穆斯克还原了它 |
| 277 | However, that's been disputed | 不过,这有争议 |
| 278 | by the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense. | 乌克兰国防部。 |
| 279 | Musk has previously denied he was behind the slowdown, | 穆斯克之前否认他是减速的幕后黑手 |
| 280 | which Ukraine says has left it more exposed to Russian attacks. | 乌克兰说,这使其更容易受到俄罗斯的攻击。 |
| 281 | Problems started last week after President Trump | 上周特朗普总统出事后 |
| 282 | criticized the Ukrainians | 批评乌克兰人 |
| 283 | for targeting Russian oil refineries. | 以俄罗斯炼油厂为目标。 |
| 284 | As he left the White House for a campaign rally, | 当他离开白宫参加竞选集会时 |
| 285 | Trump was asked by journalists about a report | 特朗普被记者问到有报道 |
| 286 | that he'd asked Musk to lift the speed restrictions. | 他要求穆斯克解除速度限制 |
| 287 | Well, I don't wanna say, but I know what to say. | 我不想说 但我知道该说什么 |
| 288 | Very interesting situation. | 非常有趣的情况。 |
| 289 | So I don't wanna comment one way or the other, | 所以我不想这样评论 |
| 290 | but my relationship with Elon is a very good one. | 但我和伊隆的关系很好 |
| 291 | Go ahead. | 来吧。 |
| 292 | Yeah, I don't wanna comment on it. | 是啊,我不想评论它。 |
| 293 | Whether I called or whether somebody else called | 无论我打电话,还是别人打电话 |
| 294 | doesn't make any difference. | 没有什么区别。 |
| 295 | I guess the bottom line, he put it back. | 我猜底线是他放回去的 |
| 296 | Let's cross now to Keeve. | 我们现在去基夫 |
| 297 | Our correspondent Dan Johnson is there for us. | 我们的记者丹·约翰逊在那边 |
| 298 | Dan, there's been conflicting reports | 丹,有互相矛盾的报道 |
| 299 | about this for a while now. | 关于这个现在一段时间。 |
| 300 | Are we any clearer about, | 我们是否更清楚, |
| 301 | what actually is going on? | 这是怎么回事? |
| 302 | No, not especially. | 不,不是特别的。 |
| 303 | There's been a huge amount of mystery | 有很多谜团 |
| 304 | surrounding this entire issue for 10 days now | 环绕这整期十天 |
| 305 | since the speed restriction was applied. | 自从限制速度以来 |
| 306 | The only clear thing is that Ukraine's ability | 唯一清楚的是乌克兰的能力 |
| 307 | to have Starlink satellite connectivity was reduced. | 以降低星际链接卫星的连通性。 |
| 308 | It meant that it wasn't able to fly | 意思是飞不起来 |
| 309 | the sort of drone operations that it needs | 需要什么样的无人机操作 |
| 310 | to protect its skies. | 保护它的天空。 |
| 311 | But there was absolutely no clarity | 但绝对不清楚 |
| 312 | on who had made that decision. | 关于是谁做出这一决定的。 |
| 313 | The White House kept saying that Starlink | 白宫一直说星际迷航 |
| 314 | is a commercial company. | 是一个商业公司。 |
| 315 | Elon Musk, who owns it, kept saying | 拥有它的人伊隆·穆斯克一直说 |
| 316 | that the Starshield military component of it | 它的星屏军事部分 |
| 317 | is controlled by the US government. | 被美国政府控制 |
| 318 | But the White House has repeatedly denied | 但白宫一再否认 |
| 319 | being responsible for the restriction | 负责限制 |
| 320 | that has hampered Ukraine's drones | 阻碍乌克兰无人驾驶飞机 |
| 321 | and its air defences for more than a week now. | 及其防空系统已经超过一周了 |
| 322 | Donald Trump there suggesting | 唐纳德·特朗普在那里建议 |
| 323 | that somebody may have told Elon Musk | 可能有人告诉伊隆·穆斯克 |
| 324 | to lift that restriction, | 解除这一限制, |
| 325 | which hints that perhaps he'd made that decision | 这暗示着也许他做了那个决定 |
| 326 | in the first place. | 最初. |
| 327 | And he believed, Donald Trump, | 他相信唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 328 | that the system was now working. | 系统现在起作用了 |
| 329 | But sources in the armed forces here say | 但这里的武装部队消息来源说 |
| 330 | that is not the case, that they're still not able | 事实并非如此,他们仍然不能 |
| 331 | to get those drones off the ground | 让无人机离开地面 |
| 332 | or to control them and guide them effectively. | 或控制他们,并有效地引导他们。 |
| 333 | Basically what happens is as soon as anything moves quicker | 基本上,事情的发生是 只要有事情发生更快 |
| 334 | than around 100 miles an hour, it loses connectivity | 超过100英里的时速, 它失去连接 |
| 335 | and either goes completely off grid, | 要么完全脱离网络, |
| 336 | crashes, just becomes uncontrollable. | 撞车,就变得无法控制 |
| 337 | So they're not even launching the drones | 所以他们甚至没有发射无人机 |
| 338 | because they don't want to lose them. | 因为他们不想失去他们 |
| 339 | We've actually heard from some serving soldiers today, | 我们今天听到一些现役士兵的消息 |
| 340 | anonymously, who've told us that it is still a problem | 匿名的,谁告诉我们这还是个问题 |
| 341 | and that even trying to connect from a car | 即使试图从一辆车连接 |
| 342 | that's moving at maybe 50 miles an hour is a problem. | 以每小时50英里的速度移动是个问题 |
| 343 | So this is still causing issues. | 所以这仍然引起问题。 |
| 344 | And where does this leave the relationship, Dan, | 这件事情从何而来,丹 |
| 345 | between Vladimir Zelensky and Donald Trump right now? | 现在弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基和唐纳德·特朗普之间? |
| 346 | Well, just as things earlier this week felt | 就像本周早些时候的感觉 |
| 347 | like they were maybe getting back onto a warmer footing, | 就像他们可能 回到一个温暖的台阶, |
| 348 | a bit more positivity and some issues having been ironed out, | 更积极一些 一些问题已经解决, |
| 349 | particularly around Ukraine's intelligence, | 特别是围绕乌克兰的情报 |
| 350 | they thought they were getting this issue sorted. | 他们以为这问题要解决了 |
| 351 | Vladimir Zelensky said he expected the Starshield system | 弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基说,他期望星屏系统 |
| 352 | to be back to full capacity within 48 hours. | 在48小时内恢复到满载状态 |
| 353 | If that's not happened, then it leaves this sense of distrust | 如果没发生,那就留下这种不信任感 |
| 354 | that somebody in America in control of that technology | 美国有人控制着那个技术 |
| 355 | is playing games and is leaving Ukraine vulnerable. | 正在玩游戏 让乌克兰变得脆弱 |
| 356 | Are they doing that because of the row | 他们这样做是因为排队 |
| 357 | that's blazed over the past week | 上个礼拜就爆了 |
| 358 | about Donald Trump's deal with the Kremlin over that diesel? | 关于唐纳德·特朗普与克里姆林宫的交易 与柴油? |
| 359 | Is this to apply pressure before negotiations? | 这是在谈判前施加压力吗? |
| 360 | Is it to show Ukrainians just how desperately vulnerable | 是想向乌克兰人展示自己是多么的脆弱 |
| 361 | their air defences could be if they don't keep America onside | 他们的防空系统可能就是 如果他们不把美国留在岸边 |
| 362 | and come to the table to negotiate that peace | 来谈判和平 |
| 363 | that Donald Trump said he felt was closer than ever? | 唐纳德·特朗普说他觉得比以前更亲近? |
| 364 | Those are all the sort of concerns, | 这些都是值得关注的问题, |
| 365 | the wariness that Ukrainians hold. | 乌克兰人所持的警惕 |
| 366 | They want this system restored because they're so reliant on it | 他们想要恢复这个系统 因为他们如此依赖它 |
| 367 | for their communications and their connectivity | 交流和连通性 |
| 368 | across the battlefield. | 穿过战场 |
| 369 | It's vital to so many of their missions. | 这对他们的许多任务都至关重要. |
| 370 | Some of the soldiers were telling us | 有些士兵告诉我们 |
| 371 | that they really think it's a priority now | 他们真的认为这是当务之急 |
| 372 | that their military command explores urgently | 他们的军事指挥部正在紧急探索 |
| 373 | alternative systems, even if that is more costly, | 替代系统,即使费用更高, |
| 374 | because they said they've realised | 因为他们说他们意识到 |
| 375 | just how vulnerable this system is, | 这个系统是多么脆弱, |
| 376 | whether it's the US government or Elon Musk, | 不管是美国政府还是伊隆·穆斯克 |
| 377 | who can just limit it at the touch of a button. | 只要按下按钮,谁就可以限制它 |
| 378 | That's a major problem for them going forward. | 这是他们前进的一大问题。 |
| 379 | So they're very concerned about that. | 所以他们非常关心这一点。 |
| 380 | They want alternatives to be in place, | 他们希望有其他选择, |
| 381 | and Ukrainians want to know | 乌克兰人想知道 |
| 382 | that they are going to be treated fairly by America | 他们将会受到美国公平对待 |
| 383 | if there are to be negotiations with the Russians. | 如果能和俄国人谈判的话 |
| 384 | Dan, thank you for that. | 丹 谢谢你 |
| 385 | A BBC investigation has found evidence | BBC调查发现证据 |
| 386 | that Sudanese paramilitary fighters | 苏丹准军事战斗人员 |
| 387 | systematically destroyed El-Fasher's healthcare system | 有系统地摧毁法希尔的保健系统 |
| 388 | during their siege and final takeover of the city a year ago. | 一年前他们围攻和最终接管这座城市时 |
| 389 | The fall of El-Fasher was one of the most brutal chapters | 法希尔的陷落是最残酷的篇章之一 |
| 390 | of the civil war between Sudan's national army | 苏丹国民军之间的内战 |
| 391 | and the Rapid Support Forces, or RSF, | 和快速支援部队,或无国界记者, |
| 392 | now in its fourth year. | 现在已经是第四年了 |
| 393 | The UN Human Rights Chief has called the investigation's | 联合国人权科长称, |
| 394 | findings deeply disturbing. | 调查结果令人深感不安。 |
| 395 | Barbara Platt-Asher reports. | 芭芭拉·普拉特-阿舍尔报告. |
| 396 | Paramilitary RSF fighters celebrate the takeover | 准军事的无国界记者组织战士庆祝接管 |
| 397 | of a main hospital in El-Fasher. | 在法希尔的一家主要医院。 |
| 398 | But it wasn't just this one. | 但不只是这个 |
| 399 | During their 18-month siege, | 在他们18个月的包围中 |
| 400 | the city's entire healthcare system was dismantled. | 整个城市的医疗保健系统都被拆除了 |
| 401 | Here, the chief dialysis centre going up in flames. | 在这里,首席透析中心 火上浇油。 |
| 402 | A BBC investigation has compiled evidence | BBC的调查收集了证据 |
| 403 | that this kind of destruction was systematic. | 这种破坏是系统性的。 |
| 404 | A list of more than 40 attacks shows repeated strikes | 40多起袭击的列表显示, |
| 405 | on health facilities, illegal under international law, | 卫生设施,根据国际法是非法的, |
| 406 | often hit multiple times, sometimes with precision drones. | 经常击中多次,有时使用精确的无人机. |
| 407 | When medical services were moved to alternative sites, | 当医疗服务转移到其他地点时, |
| 408 | these were also attacked. | 他们也遭到攻击。 |
| 409 | We spoke to doctors who were in El-Fasher during the siege. | 我们和围攻期间在法希尔的医生谈过了 |
| 410 | They believed the RSF was trying to force people | 他们相信无国界记者想强迫别人 |
| 411 | out of the city so it could take over. | 出城,这样它就可以接管。 |
| 412 | Dr. Ezzedine is a surgeon who says the paramilitaries | Ezzedine医生是个外科医生 他说是准军事部队 |
| 413 | beat him when they raided his hospital. | 当他们突袭他的医院时就打了他. |
| 414 | He played dead to survive. | 他为了生存而装死 |
| 415 | They raised my hand, I leave it fallen down. | 他们举起我的手,我把它放下 |
| 416 | And the other hand, I leave it fallen down. | 另一方面,我把它扔下来了。 |
| 417 | They put their hand on my chest and I stopped breathing. | 他们把手放在我的胸口 我停止呼吸。 |
| 418 | And they said that I leave him, leave him. | 他们说我离开他 离开他 |
| 419 | The rubbish died, died. | 垃圾死了,死了,没了 |
| 420 | Leave him, they left me. | 离开他,他们离开我。 |
| 421 | Then after that, I escaped outside the hospital. | 之后,我逃出医院 |
| 422 | We put our findings to the UN Human Rights Chief. | 我们把调查结果交给联合国人权主管。 |
| 423 | He called them deeply disturbing and said the repeated RSF attacks | 他称他们深感不安,并说无国界记者一再发动攻击。 |
| 424 | on El-Fasher's health facilities could amount to war crimes. | 在法希尔的卫生设施上 可能构成战争罪 |
| 425 | RSF officials say they're restoring health care in El-Fasher | 无国界记者说他们在法希尔恢复医疗 |
| 426 | in videos like this one. | 像这样的视频 |
| 427 | They dismissed our evidence as propaganda from the army and its allies. | 他们否认我们的证据是军队及其盟友的宣传。 |
| 428 | I met the RSF Health Minister in Nairobi. | 我在内罗毕会见了无国界医生组织卫生部长。 |
| 429 | He told me that civilian hospitals were used as military bases, | 他说民用医院被用作军事基地 |
| 430 | but we found no independent evidence of that. | 但是我们没有发现任何独立的证据 |
| 431 | These people use these health facilities, or most of them, as a military base. | 这些人利用这些卫生设施,或大部分,作为军事基地。 |
| 432 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 433 | To get this misconception of people as targeting the hospitals. | 让人们误以为是针对医院 |
| 434 | Did you see missile launchers and military equipment in the south hospital | 你看到南医院的导弹发射器和军事装备了吗? |
| 435 | and in the Saudi hospital, the two main hospitals? | 在沙特医院 两家主要的医院? |
| 436 | Did you see that personally? | 你亲眼看见了吗? |
| 437 | I went to El-Fasher, at least I have... | 我去过法希尔 至少我... |
| 438 | What did you see in those hospitals? | 你在那些医院看到了什么? |
| 439 | Did you see military equipment there? | 你看见那里的军事装备了吗? |
| 440 | And I saw and I met the people who were there. | 我看到,我遇见了在那里的人。 |
| 441 | We declared first that they are not hostages. | 我们首先宣布他们不是人质。 |
| 442 | He did go to El-Fasher after the city fell | 城陷后他去了法希尔 |
| 443 | and claimed to be liberating health workers there. | 并声称正在释放 保健工作者在那里。 |
| 444 | But we spoke to this doctor behind him, who said he was a prisoner. | 但我们跟他后面的医生谈过了 他说他是囚犯 |
| 445 | I was forced to be there. | 我被迫在场。 |
| 446 | If I spoke out of line, they'd put a bullet through my head. | 如果我说错话 他们就会朝我脑袋开枪 |
| 447 | One year on from the fall of El-Fasher, the conflict continues, | 法希尔陷落一年后 冲突仍在继续 |
| 448 | with both sides accused of war crimes, including targeting hospitals. | 双方被指控犯有战争罪,包括以医院为目标。 |
| 449 | Barbara Platt-Usher, with that investigation there. | 芭芭拉·普拉特·乌舍 那边有调查 |
| 450 | Well, we can speak to Matthew Benson-Stromayer, Sudan research director | 我们可以和马修·本森 -斯特罗迈耶谈谈 苏丹研究主任 |
| 451 | at the London School of Economics. | 在伦敦经济学院 |
| 452 | Thank you for coming on the programme. | 谢谢你来参加节目 |
| 453 | Yeah, thanks for having me. | 是的 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 454 | So, just first of all, what are some of the reasonings in your assessment | 所以,首先,什么是你评估的一些推理 |
| 455 | would the RSF allegedly carry out these kind of attacks? | 据称无国界记者会进行这种攻击吗? |
| 456 | Well, I mean, it's kind of really as if one of the doctors made it very clear. | 嗯,我的意思是,这真的 看起来像一个医生说得很清楚。 |
| 457 | It's essentially a hostage economy where the RSF is literally holding people | 基本上是一种人质经济, 无国界记者从字面上说就是把人关起来 |
| 458 | hostage so as to acquire both Sudanese attention of sort of saying | 以获得苏丹的注意 |
| 459 | they are legitimate in the area, even if they don't necessarily hold | 即使他们不一定持有 |
| 460 | all the territory in a very robust way, but especially to get international | 所有领土都以非常有力的方式,但尤其是为了实现国际化。 |
| 461 | attention and show, look what we will do to our people | 注意并显示,看看我们会对我们的人民做什么 |
| 462 | if you don't take us seriously. | 如果你不认真对待我们。 |
| 463 | So it's really about this logic of war making that's using people | 所以,它真的是关于 战争的逻辑 制造是利用人 |
| 464 | as pawns in the midst of it. | 当作卒在其中. |
| 465 | And is that a sign that fundamentally they don't have the military strength | 那就是他们根本上没有军事实力的迹象 |
| 466 | to take control in the more ways we would normally associate | 以我们通常联系的方式控制 |
| 467 | with a civil war and finally taking over? | 一场内战 终于接管了? |
| 468 | I think we need to reframe what a civil war is and recognise that this | 我认为我们需要重新定义 内战是什么 并认识到这一点 |
| 469 | is a war that is highly internationalised. | 这场战争被高度国际化。 |
| 470 | This is not a war that is just about two sides fighting. | 这不是一场只有双方交战的战争。 |
| 471 | War is really expensive in Sudan, especially in Darfur. | 在苏丹,特别是在达尔富尔,战争非常昂贵。 |
| 472 | It's really resource rich, but that means it has to be connected | 资源确实丰富,但这意味着它必须连接 |
| 473 | to the world to get those resources to be extracted. | 向全世界提供这些资源。 |
| 474 | So I think if we think about this, it's actually much more shutting down | 所以我想,如果我们考虑这个, 它实际上更多的关闭 |
| 475 | this larger global conflict nexus that's with lots of conflicts | 这种更大的全球冲突 与很多冲突的联系 |
| 476 | more interconnected than listeners may really realise. | 比听众们可能真正意识到的 更能互相连接 |
| 477 | And so I would say that actually this is a war that doesn't have | 所以我会说,实际上,这是一场没有战争 |
| 478 | a clear end in sight precisely because there are so many other | 明目张胆的结束 正是因为有这么多其他的 |
| 479 | external actors who are involved. | 涉及的外部行为者。 |
| 480 | So who are some of the external actors supporting in whatever way | 那么,谁是一些外部行为者 支持的方式 |
| 481 | the RSF here? | 这里的无国界记者? |
| 482 | Well, of course, I mean, one of the main ones is, of course, | 嗯,当然,我的意思是,一个主要的是,当然, |
| 483 | the United Arab Emirates, which has been supporting the RSF, | 支持无国界记者的阿拉伯联合酋长国, |
| 484 | or at least is rumoured to. | 或至少是谣言。 |
| 485 | It has not acknowledged that publicly. | 它没有公开承认这一点。 |
| 486 | Neighbouring states are very interested in this, such as Egypt, | 邻国对此非常感兴趣,如埃及, |
| 487 | but also much broader actors such as Turkey and so forth. | 以及土耳其等更广泛的行为者。 |
| 488 | So it's much more about a regional conflict arena than it is about | 所以,它更多的是一个区域 冲突领域比它 |
| 489 | a Sudanese conflict per se. | a 苏丹冲突本身。 |
| 490 | And if we look ahead, you said it feels to you like a conflict with no end. | 如果我们向前看,你说你觉得这就像一场没有结束的冲突。 |
| 491 | What would be the actions, international community, neighbours, | 国际社会、邻国、 |
| 492 | regional powers that would have to happen here to bring this to an end? | 区域强国必须在这里实现这一点? |
| 493 | We'd have to really rethink what peace agreements are. | 我们必须重新思考什么是和平协定。 |
| 494 | Sudan has had over 120 peace agreements, and of those peace agreements, | 苏丹已有120多项和平协定,其中的和平协定, |
| 495 | very few of them have really dealt with the financial aspects of war. | 很少有人真正处理过战争的财政问题。 |
| 496 | And when they do, they don't actually look at the underlying revenue base | 而当他们这样做, 他们实际上不看 基础收入基础 |
| 497 | that these wars are really about. | 这些战争是真正意义上的。 |
| 498 | The RSF is extremely rich. | 无国界记者组织极为丰富。 |
| 499 | So is the Sudan armed forces. | 苏丹武装部队也是如此。 |
| 500 | So you'd have to really think about how is it that you're going to centre | 所以,你必须真正思考 它是如何你要去中心 |
| 501 | those people, such as those doctors who are being held hostage by the RSF | 这些人,如被无国界医生组织劫持的医生 |
| 502 | to do their jobs and actually get their concerns at the play of this, | 做他们的工作, 和实际上得到他们的关切 发挥这一点, |
| 503 | which is about building a Sudan that's for people rather than for those armed | 这是关于建立一个苏丹 人民而不是那些武装 |
| 504 | belligerents, which literally will hold people hostage, kill them | 交战者会把人扣为人质 杀死他们 |
| 505 | so as to have a seat at the table. | 以便坐在桌子上。 |
| 506 | So it's actually about reimagining peace and also recognising again | 所以其实是重新想象和平 并再次认识到 |
| 507 | that this is an internationally financed conflict. | 这是一场国际资助的冲突。 |
| 508 | So if you want to be real about stopping this, you got to address that. | 所以,如果你想成为 真正的停止这一点, 你必须解决这一点。 |
| 509 | Matthew Benson Stromae 我们没时间了 | |
| 510 | Thank you so much for coming on the programme. | 谢谢你来参加节目 |
| 511 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 512 | Plenty more to come. | 还有很多事要做 |
| 513 | Do stay with us. | 跟我们呆在一起 |
| 514 | This is BBC News. | 这是BBC新闻。 |
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