油管精读344：为什么色情比你想象的更危险？ | 自我提升
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| 0:00 | So I think it's reasonable to assume that there's an a novelty edge in pornography like there isn't so many | 所以我觉得可以合理地假设 色情作品中有一个新奇的边缘 像没有这么多 |
| 0:09 | quasi addictive | 准瘾 |
| 0:12 | Phenomena and so it has to become | 芬诺梅娜,所以它必须成为 |
| 0:17 | Because it because novelty is a sexual kick. | 因为它是新奇的性踢。 |
| 0:19 | It has to stay novel and that means that over time. | 它必须保持新颖,这意味着随着时间的推移。 |
| 0:22 | It's going to become more extreme | 它会变得更加极端 |
| 0:24 | So that's not good. | 所以,这是不好的。 |
| 0:26 | Well, so how do you resensitize yourself in some sense? | 那么,你如何在某种意义上使自己重新敏化? |
| 0:29 | Well, you stop | 好了,你停下来 |
| 0:31 | You stop and then | 你停下来然后 |
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| 1 | So I think it's reasonable to assume that there's an a novelty edge in pornography like there isn't so many | 所以我觉得可以合理地假设 色情作品中有一个新奇的边缘 像没有这么多 |
| 2 | quasi addictive | 准瘾 |
| 3 | Phenomena and so it has to become | 芬诺梅娜,所以它必须成为 |
| 4 | Because it because novelty is a sexual kick. | 因为它是新奇的性踢。 |
| 5 | It has to stay novel and that means that over time. | 它必须保持新颖,这意味着随着时间的推移。 |
| 6 | It's going to become more extreme | 它会变得更加极端 |
| 7 | So that's not good. | 所以,这是不好的。 |
| 8 | Well, so how do you resensitize yourself in some sense? | 那么,你如何在某种意义上使自己重新敏化? |
| 9 | Well, you stop | 好了,你停下来 |
| 10 | You stop and then | 你停下来然后 |
| 11 | hopefully you recover and then you deprive yourself of that outlet, let's say and | 但愿你康复了,然后你 剥夺了你自己的出路,让我们说 |
| 12 | You might say well, you know is is that absolutely necessary? | 你可能会说,你知道 这是绝对必要的? |
| 13 | Maybe there's nothing wrong with pornography | 也许色情制品没什么问题 |
| 14 | It's like well, I don't know man. | 这就像很好,我不知道人。 |
| 15 | Like have you ever really met a guy who is proud of that | 就像你曾经遇到过一个为这个骄傲的人 |
| 16 | Like you know what? | 就像你知道吗? |
| 17 | I mean that makes them feel like I'm the guy man, you know, I'm watching pornography and getting off | 我的意思是,这让他们觉得 像我的家伙,你知道, 我正在看色情和下车 |
| 18 | It's like what a man. | 谓如是人. |
| 19 | I don't believe anyone feels that | 我不相信有人会觉得 |
| 20 | And to me, maybe I'm wrong | 对我来说,也许我错了 |
| 21 | And to me that's an indication that yeah, we know | 对我来说,这说明是的,我们知道 |
| 22 | No, it's pretty cheap. | 不,这很便宜。 |
| 23 | It's cheap. | 贵贱贱. |
| 24 | It's easy and | 很简单 |
| 25 | You know, I say that knowing that I believe the research evidence shows that if you introduce pornography into a community | 你知道,我说,我知道,我相信 研究证据表明 如果你引入色情 社区 |
| 26 | That rate rates of sexual crime committed by men upon women actually declined | 男子对妇女实施性犯罪的比率实际上有所下降。 |
| 27 | So there is perhaps some utility in the outlet | 因此,也许有 一些有用在出口 |
| 28 | But you know, that's a unidimensional analysis and doesn't take into account all the other effects of pornography | 但是,你知道,这是一个单维分析 而不考虑所有其他的效果 色情 |
| 29 | So including the ones you described and I think that those are real it makes sense that they're real, you know | 所以,包括你描述的那些 我认为那些是真实的 才有意义,你知道的 |
| 30 | because it's super satiation and | 因为它是超级满足和 |
| 31 | And it's it and it's it's a non-trivial technological problem | 它是一个非三角技术问题 |
| 32 | You know | 你知道吗 |
| 33 | It's now possible for young men to look at more beautiful nude women in one day than any man has ever seen | 年轻男人可以在一天之内 见到比男人更漂亮的裸体女人 |
| 34 | You know prior to 10 years ago 20 years ago that any man in history had ever seen that's not nothing | 你知道十年前,20年前, 任何在历史上的人 曾经见过,这不是什么 |
| 35 | That's something and to think that doesn't do anything to you. | 这是东西和认为 这对你没有任何作用。 |
| 36 | It's like no that that's | 就像没有那样 |
| 37 | That likely does something to you | 这可能会对你有所帮助 |
| 38 | so | 这样 |
| 39 | Don't substitute the false for the real and and don't underestimate the utility of deprivation | 不要用假的来代替真实的 不要低估剥夺的效用 |
| 40 | You know you do what what do we need to drive us forward to have the adventure of our life? | 你知道你做什么,我们需要什么 推动我们前进 有我们的生活冒险? |
| 41 | well | 不错 |
| 42 | some depth some deprivation | 某种深度 某种剥夺 |
| 43 | that's for sure that | 这是肯定的 |
| 44 | Heightens desire and drive and maybe you need that you're afraid to approach a woman | 抬高欲望和开车 也许你需要害怕接近女人 |
| 45 | Well, you remove part of your drive with pornography | 你用色情片去掉你的一部分驱动器 |
| 46 | And so now you don't have that sexual urge to overcome that anxiety and so you stay timid for your entire life | 所以,现在你没有 性冲动克服焦虑 所以你保持胆小的一生 |
| 47 | You know, maybe not but but maybe a free and widely available | 你知道,也许不是,但也许 一个免费和广泛的可用 |
| 48 | Pornography is having on young people, especially men in our society at this time | 色情制品在年轻人身上, 特别是我们社会中的男性 |
| 49 | Well, I think it it's like Treasure Island in in Pinocchio. | 我觉得就像皮诺曹的宝岛 |
| 50 | It's all pleasure with no responsibility | 不负任何责任,一切都很愉快 |
| 51 | That's deadening. | 这简直是一团糟 |
| 52 | It's it's it's parasitical in a sense and I don't mean that I'm not | 它是一种寄生虫,我不是说我不是 |
| 53 | Making a value judgment | 作出价值判断 |
| 54 | I mean, it's no wonder the young guys are caught up in this because it's an unbelievably powerful technology | 难怪年轻人被困在这件事情里 因为这技术太强大了 |
| 55 | It it drove the development of the internet, let's not forget right so it taps into one viciously | 它驱动了互联网的发展, 让我们不要忘记正确的, 这样它就进入一个邪恶的。 |
| 56 | Primordial motivation and so these guys are being blasted by what biologists call super stimuli all the time | 原始动机和这些家伙被 生物学家所谓的超级刺激所轰动 |
| 57 | so imagine that there's a biological stimulus that has an effect on you and then you can magnify it and | 想象一下有生物刺激对你有影响 然后你就可以放大它 |
| 58 | The typical porn actress not the amateurs, but the professionals have their sexually | 典型的色情女演员不是业余演员,而是专业的 |
| 59 | provocative | 挑衅 |
| 60 | Physical elements exaggerated and so men are very visual in terms of their sexual processing | 身体因素夸大了,所以男人在性加工方面 视力很强 |
| 61 | And so, you know the the guys are pulled into it and they're pulled into it also by curiosity | 所以,你知道这些家伙 被拉进去,他们 被拉进去 也因为好奇心 |
| 62 | but I think that ethically it's a | 但我认为道德上是 |
| 63 | It's a it's it's not good. | 谓之不善. |
| 64 | It's not good. | 岂不善哉. |
| 65 | It's it's an easy out. | 即是方便解脱. |
| 66 | That's the other thing, you know is | 还有一件事,你知道的 |
| 67 | What you should be doing is going out and finding someone to have a relationship with and if you can | 你应该做的是出去找个人 和你有关系,如果你可以 |
| 68 | Gratify yourself with no transformation, but let's say you can't find someone well | 没有变身,你就不能找到好人 |
| 69 | Then you might say that's an indication you should change. | 那你可能认为你应该改变 |
| 70 | It is in fact an indication that you should change because | 这实际上表明你应该改变,因为 |
| 71 | What better indication are you going to get then that no one wants to be intimate with you? | 那你会有什么更好的迹象 说明没有人想和你亲密相处? |
| 72 | It's the ultimate rejection and that's partly why men are terrified of it and I understand that | 这是终极的拒绝 也是男人害怕的原因 |
| 73 | And I under also understand the MGTOW guys, you know who are who are just | 而我也理解MGTOW的人 你知道谁是公正的 |
| 74 | Recommending that men don't enter into long-term permanent relationships with women | 建议男子不与妇女建立长期永久关系 |
| 75 | I understand where they're coming from. | 我知道他们从哪里来 |
| 76 | Although I called them pathetic weasels a while back. | 虽然我之前叫他们可怜小黄鼠狼 |
| 77 | I shouldn't have done that | 我不该那么做的 |
| 78 | See, that's where I said to you. | 你看,这就是我告诉你。 |
| 79 | Are you worried about it? | 你担心吗? |
| 80 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 81 | Yeah once you say some well | 是啊,一旦你说好 |
| 82 | They're providing a lot of young guys who who need a kick to go out there, right? | 他们提供很多年轻人 谁需要踢出去,对不对? |
| 83 | They're actually giving them the back there. | 他们实际上给他们的后面。 |
| 84 | You're giving them a rationale | 你给他们一个理由 |
| 85 | Yeah | 对 |
| 86 | I've seen this have very detrimental effects on a number of people already and and partly in my clinical practice because | 我看过这对很多人 已经造成了非常不利的影响 并且部分地在我的临床实践上 |
| 87 | These guys the young guys who aren't successful they're looking for a reason why women are terrible because otherwise they have to think well | 这些不成功的年轻人 寻找一个理由 女人是可怕的,因为 否则,他们必须好好思考 |
| 88 | They're just not presentable which is what they do have to think because that's almost the definition of presentable, right? | 他们只是不能现身 而这正是他们必须思考的 因为这就是现身的定义 对吧? |
| 89 | So and then the MGTOW guys give them a rationale, you know | 然后MGTOW的人给他们一个理由,你知道的 |
| 90 | We are in a gyno centric world and females have got control and they'll like | 我们处在一个以陀螺为中心的世界 雌性有控制,他们会喜欢 |
| 91 | Wipe you out if they have the opportunity. | 如果他们有机会,就把你干掉 |
| 92 | It's like well some females will do that to some guys some of the time | 钩Τㄇ穦癸Τㄇ╧硂或暗 |
| 93 | Okay, so the question is why don't why do people pursue rewards that don't produce this resonance | 好吧,所以问题是,为什么人们不追求 奖励而不产生这种共鸣 |
| 94 | They don't have a value hierarchy. | 它们没有价值等级. |
| 95 | So Pleasure Island. | 幸会 |
| 96 | It's a good example | 这是一个很好的例子 |
| 97 | Those kids that were brought there were lost | 那些被带去的孩子们都迷路了 |
| 98 | So they didn't they didn't have anywhere to go. | 所以他们没有地方可去 |
| 99 | They didn't have an identity | 他们没有身份 |
| 100 | so they default to local pleasure and | 故他们不享受当地的生活, |
| 101 | That's better than none. | 这比没有好。 |
| 102 | Although the problem with local pleasure | 虽然当地人很快乐 |
| 103 | As the narrative made clear is that you better look out if you're impulsive because it's gonna kick back on you hard and the reason is | 正如叙述所说明的,你最好小心 如果你冲动,因为它会 踢回你硬的,原因 |
| 104 | You're only considering the immediate time frame and the problem is is that things propagate across all the time frames | 你只是在考虑眼前的时间框架 问题是所有的时间框架都传播出去 |
| 105 | And so just because something works really well this second cocaine for example | 所以,只是因为有些东西 工作真的很好 这第二个可卡因,例如 |
| 106 | Doesn't mean that it's a tenable solution to the class of all problems. | 这并不意味着它是解决所有问题的可行办法。 |
| 107 | So usually often people pursue | 所以通常人们都追求 |
| 108 | Local pleasure because that's the best they can imagine. | 当地的快乐,因为那是他们能想象的最好的。 |
| 109 | It's the best they've been taught. | 其教最胜众生. |
| 110 | They don't see another alternative | 他们没有其他选择 |
| 111 | So it could be ignorance. | 可能就是无知 |
| 112 | It can be they don't want to adopt the responsibility because part of the problem with | 他们可能不想承担责任 因为其中的一部分问题 |
| 113 | working at every level of the hierarchy simultaneously is that it's it's | 在等级的每一个级别同时工作 就是它 |
| 114 | Well, it's like dancing to a very complex waltz | 就像跳到一个非常复杂的华尔兹 |
| 115 | Let's say you have to be paying attention to a very large number of things simultaneously and doing things, right? | 假设你必须注意 大量的事情 同时做,对不对? |
| 116 | It requires responsibility | 这需要责任 |
| 117 | Responsibility and so, you know, that's | 责任,所以,你知道,这就是 |
| 118 | It's a pain | 有点痛 |
| 119 | It's a weight part of the reason people drink alcohol is to get rid of their responsibility | 这是人们喝酒的原因之一 是为了摆脱责任 |
| 120 | I mean, that's well, you know you hear people drink because they have problems. | 我的意思是,这很好,你知道 你听到人们喝酒,因为他们有问题。 |
| 121 | It's like yeah. | 犹如是. |
| 122 | Yeah, no | 是啊,没有 |
| 123 | some people drink because they're anxious and | 有些人喝酒是因为他们很焦虑 |
| 124 | Alcoholics drink because they're in withdrawal but young people drink because they're sick and tired of being responsible | 喝酒是因为他们戒酒 年轻人喝酒是因为他们厌倦了责任 |
| 125 | What advice would you give to someone looking to quit porn? | 你会给一个想退出色情片的人什么建议? |
| 126 | Well, I gave some advice a little earlier about quitting | 我早点建议你辞职 |
| 127 | Alcohol, you know and I would say it isn't that you're trying to quit porn | 酒精,你知道,我会说 这不是你想退出色情片 |
| 128 | It's not the right way to think about it | 考虑这个问题不合适 |
| 129 | The right way to think about it is that you're trying to figure out how to have a better life | 思考这个问题的正确方式是,你试图找出如何过上更好的生活 |
| 130 | And so you have to figure out | 所以你必须想出 |
| 131 | Well, I would say do the future authoring program and keep your porn addiction in mind and think | 好吧,我会说做 未来的作者程序 并保持你的色情成瘾 并思考 |
| 132 | So in the first part of the future authoring program, it asks you a bunch of questions about | 因此,在未来的作者程序第一部分, 它问你一堆关于 |
| 133 | What your life could be like in three to five years if you took care of yourself like you were someone that you cared for | 如果你照顾自己 就像你关心的人一样 |
| 134 | and | 和 |
| 135 | Then it asks you questions about your friends and your family and your career and your time outside of work and your health and you | 然后它问你关于你的朋友和家人 以及你的事业 和你在工作之外的时间 你的健康 还有你 |
| 136 | Know the important dimensions of life and it it asks you to spend | 了解生命的重要维度 它要求你花费 |
| 137 | 20 minutes writing about how good your life could be in three to five years if you got your act together and did what was good for you | 写了20分钟,你的生活可以有多好 在3到5年 如果你得到你的表演 并做对你好 |
| 138 | and then it asked you to write about the hell you could be and if you didn't and so I would say you really need to | 然后它要求你写 关于地狱 你可以是,如果你没有, 所以我会说你真的需要 |
| 139 | Do that because porn isn't the issue. | 这样做是因为色情不是问题所在 |
| 140 | The issue is that you're not living your life the way you want to and so you need | 问题是你的生活不是你想的那样 所以需要 |
| 141 | a vision of | 愿景 |
| 142 | Life that's more compelling than the porn and you need a counter vision to that frightens you | 生活比色情片更吸引人 你需要一个反视觉 来吓唬你 |
| 143 | You know because otherwise porn is obviously extraordinarily | 要知道,否则色情显然非常特别 |
| 144 | gratifying in the short term but but you seem to be suffering from the medium to long-term | 从短期来看是令人满意的,但你似乎在中长期遭受痛苦 |
| 145 | Consequences of its use and so you need a story that you can tell yourself | 使用它的后果,所以你需要一个故事 你可以告诉自己 |
| 146 | That's really deeply thought through about why this is not appropriate for you | 这真是深思熟虑了 为什么这不适合你 |
| 147 | What's what it's how it's hurting you and how it's minimizing you and perhaps making you embarrassed and ashamed and more socially isolated | 是什么,它是如何伤害你, 它是如何贬低你,也许让你 尴尬和羞愧,更孤立的社会 |
| 148 | and all of that so I would say | 所有这一切,所以我要说 |
| 149 | think about it as | 考虑一下 |
| 150 | Cleaning up your psyche and your behavior rather than merely start stopping | 清理你的心理和行为 而不是仅仅开始停止 |
| 151 | Stopping porn you also might want to write down and you could do this in the | 停止色情,你也许还想写下来 你可以做到这一点,在 |
| 152 | Negative vision part of the future authoring program | 未来作者程序的负面视觉部分 |
| 153 | you're gonna write down everything bad that you think porn is doing to you because obviously you have | 你会记下你认为色情片对你所做的一切 |
| 154 | Some suspicions that this is not good for you, right that it's that it's actually harming you in some important way | 有些怀疑这对你不好, 正确的是它实际上伤害了你 以某种重要的方式 |
| 155 | And so you need to be fully cognizant of what those ways are and then take them seriously and decide if that's the pathway | 因此,你需要 充分意识到这些方式是什么 然后认真对待它们 并决定是否这是路径 |
| 156 | Through life on which you wish to travel and so and then I would also say good luck to you | 通过你希望旅行的生活,然后我也会告诉你好运 |
| 157 | You know, it's it's a very good idea to identify one of your weaknesses and work on it | 你知道,这是一个非常好的主意, 找出你的弱点之一 并研究它 |
| 158 | You can you can strengthen yourself substantially by doing | 你可以通过做来大大增强自己 |
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| 0:00 | So I think it's reasonable to assume that there's an a novelty edge in pornography like there isn't so many | 所以我觉得可以合理地假设 色情作品中有一个新奇的边缘 像没有这么多 |
| 0:09 | quasi addictive | 准瘾 |
| 0:12 | Phenomena and so it has to become | 芬诺梅娜,所以它必须成为 |
| 0:17 | Because it because novelty is a sexual kick. | 因为它是新奇的性踢。 |
| 0:19 | It has to stay novel and that means that over time. | 它必须保持新颖,这意味着随着时间的推移。 |
| 0:22 | It's going to become more extreme | 它会变得更加极端 |
| 0:24 | So that's not good. | 所以,这是不好的。 |
| 0:26 | Well, so how do you resensitize yourself in some sense? | 那么,你如何在某种意义上使自己重新敏化? |
| 0:29 | Well, you stop | 好了,你停下来 |
| 0:31 | You stop and then | 你停下来然后 |
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| 1 | So I think it's reasonable to assume that there's an a novelty edge in pornography like there isn't so many | 所以我觉得可以合理地假设 色情作品中有一个新奇的边缘 像没有这么多 |
| 2 | quasi addictive | 准瘾 |
| 3 | Phenomena and so it has to become | 芬诺梅娜,所以它必须成为 |
| 4 | Because it because novelty is a sexual kick. | 因为它是新奇的性踢。 |
| 5 | It has to stay novel and that means that over time. | 它必须保持新颖,这意味着随着时间的推移。 |
| 6 | It's going to become more extreme | 它会变得更加极端 |
| 7 | So that's not good. | 所以,这是不好的。 |
| 8 | Well, so how do you resensitize yourself in some sense? | 那么,你如何在某种意义上使自己重新敏化? |
| 9 | Well, you stop | 好了,你停下来 |
| 10 | You stop and then | 你停下来然后 |
| 11 | hopefully you recover and then you deprive yourself of that outlet, let's say and | 但愿你康复了,然后你 剥夺了你自己的出路,让我们说 |
| 12 | You might say well, you know is is that absolutely necessary? | 你可能会说,你知道 这是绝对必要的? |
| 13 | Maybe there's nothing wrong with pornography | 也许色情制品没什么问题 |
| 14 | It's like well, I don't know man. | 这就像很好,我不知道人。 |
| 15 | Like have you ever really met a guy who is proud of that | 就像你曾经遇到过一个为这个骄傲的人 |
| 16 | Like you know what? | 就像你知道吗? |
| 17 | I mean that makes them feel like I'm the guy man, you know, I'm watching pornography and getting off | 我的意思是,这让他们觉得 像我的家伙,你知道, 我正在看色情和下车 |
| 18 | It's like what a man. | 谓如是人. |
| 19 | I don't believe anyone feels that | 我不相信有人会觉得 |
| 20 | And to me, maybe I'm wrong | 对我来说,也许我错了 |
| 21 | And to me that's an indication that yeah, we know | 对我来说,这说明是的,我们知道 |
| 22 | No, it's pretty cheap. | 不,这很便宜。 |
| 23 | It's cheap. | 贵贱贱. |
| 24 | It's easy and | 很简单 |
| 25 | You know, I say that knowing that I believe the research evidence shows that if you introduce pornography into a community | 你知道,我说,我知道,我相信 研究证据表明 如果你引入色情 社区 |
| 26 | That rate rates of sexual crime committed by men upon women actually declined | 男子对妇女实施性犯罪的比率实际上有所下降。 |
| 27 | So there is perhaps some utility in the outlet | 因此,也许有 一些有用在出口 |
| 28 | But you know, that's a unidimensional analysis and doesn't take into account all the other effects of pornography | 但是,你知道,这是一个单维分析 而不考虑所有其他的效果 色情 |
| 29 | So including the ones you described and I think that those are real it makes sense that they're real, you know | 所以,包括你描述的那些 我认为那些是真实的 才有意义,你知道的 |
| 30 | because it's super satiation and | 因为它是超级满足和 |
| 31 | And it's it and it's it's a non-trivial technological problem | 它是一个非三角技术问题 |
| 32 | You know | 你知道吗 |
| 33 | It's now possible for young men to look at more beautiful nude women in one day than any man has ever seen | 年轻男人可以在一天之内 见到比男人更漂亮的裸体女人 |
| 34 | You know prior to 10 years ago 20 years ago that any man in history had ever seen that's not nothing | 你知道十年前,20年前, 任何在历史上的人 曾经见过,这不是什么 |
| 35 | That's something and to think that doesn't do anything to you. | 这是东西和认为 这对你没有任何作用。 |
| 36 | It's like no that that's | 就像没有那样 |
| 37 | That likely does something to you | 这可能会对你有所帮助 |
| 38 | so | 这样 |
| 39 | Don't substitute the false for the real and and don't underestimate the utility of deprivation | 不要用假的来代替真实的 不要低估剥夺的效用 |
| 40 | You know you do what what do we need to drive us forward to have the adventure of our life? | 你知道你做什么,我们需要什么 推动我们前进 有我们的生活冒险? |
| 41 | well | 不错 |
| 42 | some depth some deprivation | 某种深度 某种剥夺 |
| 43 | that's for sure that | 这是肯定的 |
| 44 | Heightens desire and drive and maybe you need that you're afraid to approach a woman | 抬高欲望和开车 也许你需要害怕接近女人 |
| 45 | Well, you remove part of your drive with pornography | 你用色情片去掉你的一部分驱动器 |
| 46 | And so now you don't have that sexual urge to overcome that anxiety and so you stay timid for your entire life | 所以,现在你没有 性冲动克服焦虑 所以你保持胆小的一生 |
| 47 | You know, maybe not but but maybe a free and widely available | 你知道,也许不是,但也许 一个免费和广泛的可用 |
| 48 | Pornography is having on young people, especially men in our society at this time | 色情制品在年轻人身上, 特别是我们社会中的男性 |
| 49 | Well, I think it it's like Treasure Island in in Pinocchio. | 我觉得就像皮诺曹的宝岛 |
| 50 | It's all pleasure with no responsibility | 不负任何责任,一切都很愉快 |
| 51 | That's deadening. | 这简直是一团糟 |
| 52 | It's it's it's parasitical in a sense and I don't mean that I'm not | 它是一种寄生虫,我不是说我不是 |
| 53 | Making a value judgment | 作出价值判断 |
| 54 | I mean, it's no wonder the young guys are caught up in this because it's an unbelievably powerful technology | 难怪年轻人被困在这件事情里 因为这技术太强大了 |
| 55 | It it drove the development of the internet, let's not forget right so it taps into one viciously | 它驱动了互联网的发展, 让我们不要忘记正确的, 这样它就进入一个邪恶的。 |
| 56 | Primordial motivation and so these guys are being blasted by what biologists call super stimuli all the time | 原始动机和这些家伙被 生物学家所谓的超级刺激所轰动 |
| 57 | so imagine that there's a biological stimulus that has an effect on you and then you can magnify it and | 想象一下有生物刺激对你有影响 然后你就可以放大它 |
| 58 | The typical porn actress not the amateurs, but the professionals have their sexually | 典型的色情女演员不是业余演员,而是专业的 |
| 59 | provocative | 挑衅 |
| 60 | Physical elements exaggerated and so men are very visual in terms of their sexual processing | 身体因素夸大了,所以男人在性加工方面 视力很强 |
| 61 | And so, you know the the guys are pulled into it and they're pulled into it also by curiosity | 所以,你知道这些家伙 被拉进去,他们 被拉进去 也因为好奇心 |
| 62 | but I think that ethically it's a | 但我认为道德上是 |
| 63 | It's a it's it's not good. | 谓之不善. |
| 64 | It's not good. | 岂不善哉. |
| 65 | It's it's an easy out. | 即是方便解脱. |
| 66 | That's the other thing, you know is | 还有一件事,你知道的 |
| 67 | What you should be doing is going out and finding someone to have a relationship with and if you can | 你应该做的是出去找个人 和你有关系,如果你可以 |
| 68 | Gratify yourself with no transformation, but let's say you can't find someone well | 没有变身,你就不能找到好人 |
| 69 | Then you might say that's an indication you should change. | 那你可能认为你应该改变 |
| 70 | It is in fact an indication that you should change because | 这实际上表明你应该改变,因为 |
| 71 | What better indication are you going to get then that no one wants to be intimate with you? | 那你会有什么更好的迹象 说明没有人想和你亲密相处? |
| 72 | It's the ultimate rejection and that's partly why men are terrified of it and I understand that | 这是终极的拒绝 也是男人害怕的原因 |
| 73 | And I under also understand the MGTOW guys, you know who are who are just | 而我也理解MGTOW的人 你知道谁是公正的 |
| 74 | Recommending that men don't enter into long-term permanent relationships with women | 建议男子不与妇女建立长期永久关系 |
| 75 | I understand where they're coming from. | 我知道他们从哪里来 |
| 76 | Although I called them pathetic weasels a while back. | 虽然我之前叫他们可怜小黄鼠狼 |
| 77 | I shouldn't have done that | 我不该那么做的 |
| 78 | See, that's where I said to you. | 你看,这就是我告诉你。 |
| 79 | Are you worried about it? | 你担心吗? |
| 80 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 81 | Yeah once you say some well | 是啊,一旦你说好 |
| 82 | They're providing a lot of young guys who who need a kick to go out there, right? | 他们提供很多年轻人 谁需要踢出去,对不对? |
| 83 | They're actually giving them the back there. | 他们实际上给他们的后面。 |
| 84 | You're giving them a rationale | 你给他们一个理由 |
| 85 | Yeah | 对 |
| 86 | I've seen this have very detrimental effects on a number of people already and and partly in my clinical practice because | 我看过这对很多人 已经造成了非常不利的影响 并且部分地在我的临床实践上 |
| 87 | These guys the young guys who aren't successful they're looking for a reason why women are terrible because otherwise they have to think well | 这些不成功的年轻人 寻找一个理由 女人是可怕的,因为 否则,他们必须好好思考 |
| 88 | They're just not presentable which is what they do have to think because that's almost the definition of presentable, right? | 他们只是不能现身 而这正是他们必须思考的 因为这就是现身的定义 对吧? |
| 89 | So and then the MGTOW guys give them a rationale, you know | 然后MGTOW的人给他们一个理由,你知道的 |
| 90 | We are in a gyno centric world and females have got control and they'll like | 我们处在一个以陀螺为中心的世界 雌性有控制,他们会喜欢 |
| 91 | Wipe you out if they have the opportunity. | 如果他们有机会,就把你干掉 |
| 92 | It's like well some females will do that to some guys some of the time | 钩Τㄇ穦癸Τㄇ╧硂或暗 |
| 93 | Okay, so the question is why don't why do people pursue rewards that don't produce this resonance | 好吧,所以问题是,为什么人们不追求 奖励而不产生这种共鸣 |
| 94 | They don't have a value hierarchy. | 它们没有价值等级. |
| 95 | So Pleasure Island. | 幸会 |
| 96 | It's a good example | 这是一个很好的例子 |
| 97 | Those kids that were brought there were lost | 那些被带去的孩子们都迷路了 |
| 98 | So they didn't they didn't have anywhere to go. | 所以他们没有地方可去 |
| 99 | They didn't have an identity | 他们没有身份 |
| 100 | so they default to local pleasure and | 故他们不享受当地的生活, |
| 101 | That's better than none. | 这比没有好。 |
| 102 | Although the problem with local pleasure | 虽然当地人很快乐 |
| 103 | As the narrative made clear is that you better look out if you're impulsive because it's gonna kick back on you hard and the reason is | 正如叙述所说明的,你最好小心 如果你冲动,因为它会 踢回你硬的,原因 |
| 104 | You're only considering the immediate time frame and the problem is is that things propagate across all the time frames | 你只是在考虑眼前的时间框架 问题是所有的时间框架都传播出去 |
| 105 | And so just because something works really well this second cocaine for example | 所以,只是因为有些东西 工作真的很好 这第二个可卡因,例如 |
| 106 | Doesn't mean that it's a tenable solution to the class of all problems. | 这并不意味着它是解决所有问题的可行办法。 |
| 107 | So usually often people pursue | 所以通常人们都追求 |
| 108 | Local pleasure because that's the best they can imagine. | 当地的快乐,因为那是他们能想象的最好的。 |
| 109 | It's the best they've been taught. | 其教最胜众生. |
| 110 | They don't see another alternative | 他们没有其他选择 |
| 111 | So it could be ignorance. | 可能就是无知 |
| 112 | It can be they don't want to adopt the responsibility because part of the problem with | 他们可能不想承担责任 因为其中的一部分问题 |
| 113 | working at every level of the hierarchy simultaneously is that it's it's | 在等级的每一个级别同时工作 就是它 |
| 114 | Well, it's like dancing to a very complex waltz | 就像跳到一个非常复杂的华尔兹 |
| 115 | Let's say you have to be paying attention to a very large number of things simultaneously and doing things, right? | 假设你必须注意 大量的事情 同时做,对不对? |
| 116 | It requires responsibility | 这需要责任 |
| 117 | Responsibility and so, you know, that's | 责任,所以,你知道,这就是 |
| 118 | It's a pain | 有点痛 |
| 119 | It's a weight part of the reason people drink alcohol is to get rid of their responsibility | 这是人们喝酒的原因之一 是为了摆脱责任 |
| 120 | I mean, that's well, you know you hear people drink because they have problems. | 我的意思是,这很好,你知道 你听到人们喝酒,因为他们有问题。 |
| 121 | It's like yeah. | 犹如是. |
| 122 | Yeah, no | 是啊,没有 |
| 123 | some people drink because they're anxious and | 有些人喝酒是因为他们很焦虑 |
| 124 | Alcoholics drink because they're in withdrawal but young people drink because they're sick and tired of being responsible | 喝酒是因为他们戒酒 年轻人喝酒是因为他们厌倦了责任 |
| 125 | What advice would you give to someone looking to quit porn? | 你会给一个想退出色情片的人什么建议? |
| 126 | Well, I gave some advice a little earlier about quitting | 我早点建议你辞职 |
| 127 | Alcohol, you know and I would say it isn't that you're trying to quit porn | 酒精,你知道,我会说 这不是你想退出色情片 |
| 128 | It's not the right way to think about it | 考虑这个问题不合适 |
| 129 | The right way to think about it is that you're trying to figure out how to have a better life | 思考这个问题的正确方式是,你试图找出如何过上更好的生活 |
| 130 | And so you have to figure out | 所以你必须想出 |
| 131 | Well, I would say do the future authoring program and keep your porn addiction in mind and think | 好吧,我会说做 未来的作者程序 并保持你的色情成瘾 并思考 |
| 132 | So in the first part of the future authoring program, it asks you a bunch of questions about | 因此,在未来的作者程序第一部分, 它问你一堆关于 |
| 133 | What your life could be like in three to five years if you took care of yourself like you were someone that you cared for | 如果你照顾自己 就像你关心的人一样 |
| 134 | and | 和 |
| 135 | Then it asks you questions about your friends and your family and your career and your time outside of work and your health and you | 然后它问你关于你的朋友和家人 以及你的事业 和你在工作之外的时间 你的健康 还有你 |
| 136 | Know the important dimensions of life and it it asks you to spend | 了解生命的重要维度 它要求你花费 |
| 137 | 20 minutes writing about how good your life could be in three to five years if you got your act together and did what was good for you | 写了20分钟,你的生活可以有多好 在3到5年 如果你得到你的表演 并做对你好 |
| 138 | and then it asked you to write about the hell you could be and if you didn't and so I would say you really need to | 然后它要求你写 关于地狱 你可以是,如果你没有, 所以我会说你真的需要 |
| 139 | Do that because porn isn't the issue. | 这样做是因为色情不是问题所在 |
| 140 | The issue is that you're not living your life the way you want to and so you need | 问题是你的生活不是你想的那样 所以需要 |
| 141 | a vision of | 愿景 |
| 142 | Life that's more compelling than the porn and you need a counter vision to that frightens you | 生活比色情片更吸引人 你需要一个反视觉 来吓唬你 |
| 143 | You know because otherwise porn is obviously extraordinarily | 要知道,否则色情显然非常特别 |
| 144 | gratifying in the short term but but you seem to be suffering from the medium to long-term | 从短期来看是令人满意的,但你似乎在中长期遭受痛苦 |
| 145 | Consequences of its use and so you need a story that you can tell yourself | 使用它的后果,所以你需要一个故事 你可以告诉自己 |
| 146 | That's really deeply thought through about why this is not appropriate for you | 这真是深思熟虑了 为什么这不适合你 |
| 147 | What's what it's how it's hurting you and how it's minimizing you and perhaps making you embarrassed and ashamed and more socially isolated | 是什么,它是如何伤害你, 它是如何贬低你,也许让你 尴尬和羞愧,更孤立的社会 |
| 148 | and all of that so I would say | 所有这一切,所以我要说 |
| 149 | think about it as | 考虑一下 |
| 150 | Cleaning up your psyche and your behavior rather than merely start stopping | 清理你的心理和行为 而不是仅仅开始停止 |
| 151 | Stopping porn you also might want to write down and you could do this in the | 停止色情,你也许还想写下来 你可以做到这一点,在 |
| 152 | Negative vision part of the future authoring program | 未来作者程序的负面视觉部分 |
| 153 | you're gonna write down everything bad that you think porn is doing to you because obviously you have | 你会记下你认为色情片对你所做的一切 |
| 154 | Some suspicions that this is not good for you, right that it's that it's actually harming you in some important way | 有些怀疑这对你不好, 正确的是它实际上伤害了你 以某种重要的方式 |
| 155 | And so you need to be fully cognizant of what those ways are and then take them seriously and decide if that's the pathway | 因此,你需要 充分意识到这些方式是什么 然后认真对待它们 并决定是否这是路径 |
| 156 | Through life on which you wish to travel and so and then I would also say good luck to you | 通过你希望旅行的生活,然后我也会告诉你好运 |
| 157 | You know, it's it's a very good idea to identify one of your weaknesses and work on it | 你知道,这是一个非常好的主意, 找出你的弱点之一 并研究它 |
| 158 | You can you can strengthen yourself substantially by doing | 你可以通过做来大大增强自己 |
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