从“寸土不让”到“冻结战线”，泽连斯基首次明确接受保留至少7
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| 0:00 | So, if you're just waking up this morning, a lot is going on. | 所以,如果你只是早上醒来, 很多事情正在发生。 |
| 0:03 | An American prisoner who never should have been taken is free and is preparing to return | 一个不该被带走的美国囚犯 正在准备返回 |
| 0:07 | to the U.S. soil, Russia releasing retired Michigan teacher Stephen Hubbard after more | 回到美国本土,俄罗斯释放 退休的密歇根老师斯蒂芬·哈伯德之后 |
| 0:12 | than four years in detainment. | 被关了四年以上 |
| 0:13 | Steve Witkoff和俄罗斯官员正在会谈, | |
| 0:18 | after peace deal for Ukraine. | 在乌克兰和谈之后 |
| 0:20 | And yesterday, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner on a Zoom was talking with President Zelensky. | 昨天,斯蒂夫·维特克夫和贾里德·库什纳在和泽连斯基总统谈话 |
| 0:24 | And our next guest's country is still fighting a brutal war against Vladimir Putin's Russia. | 而我们的下一位客人的国家仍在对弗拉基米尔·普京的俄国进行残酷的战争. |
| 0:29 | And joining us right now, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. | 乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基也加入我们。 |
| 0:33 | Mr. President, like us, we found out 20 minutes ago this hostage has been released. | 主席先生,像我们一样,我们20分钟前发现这个人质已经被释放。 |
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| 1 | So, if you're just waking up this morning, a lot is going on. | 所以,如果你只是早上醒来, 很多事情正在发生。 |
| 2 | An American prisoner who never should have been taken is free and is preparing to return | 一个不该被带走的美国囚犯 正在准备返回 |
| 3 | to the U.S. soil, Russia releasing retired Michigan teacher Stephen Hubbard after more | 回到美国本土,俄罗斯释放 退休的密歇根老师斯蒂芬·哈伯德之后 |
| 4 | than four years in detainment. | 被关了四年以上 |
| 5 | Steve Witkoff和俄罗斯官员正在会谈, | |
| 6 | after peace deal for Ukraine. | 在乌克兰和谈之后 |
| 7 | And yesterday, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner on a Zoom was talking with President Zelensky. | 昨天,斯蒂夫·维特克夫和贾里德·库什纳在和泽连斯基总统谈话 |
| 8 | And our next guest's country is still fighting a brutal war against Vladimir Putin's Russia. | 而我们的下一位客人的国家仍在对弗拉基米尔·普京的俄国进行残酷的战争. |
| 9 | And joining us right now, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky. | 乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基也加入我们。 |
| 10 | Mr. President, like us, we found out 20 minutes ago this hostage has been released. | 主席先生,像我们一样,我们20分钟前发现这个人质已经被释放。 |
| 11 | I know you don't know anything about him. | 我知道你对他一无所知 |
| 12 | He was captured in Ukrainian territory as a teacher, not fighting in a war. | 他作为教师在乌克兰境内被俘,而不是在战争中作战. |
| 13 | But what do you think it means for the perspective of peace? | 但是,你认为这对和平的前景意味着什么? |
| 14 | Why do you think Vladimir Putin did it? | 你认为弗拉基米尔·普京为什么要这么做? |
| 15 | I know, of course, some details about this guy here. | 我知道,当然,关于这个家伙的一些细节。 |
| 16 | But he was in a Zoom before he was captured by Russians. | 但他在被俄国人俘虏之前就处于一个缩放中. |
| 17 | But in any way, I want to say that I congratulate his family and people who are around him. | 但无论如何,我想说,我祝贺他的家人和身边的人。 |
| 18 | And this is important to give people the possibility to live again and be free. | 这一点对于让人们重新生活和获得自由非常重要。 |
| 19 | And we always raise this topic with our American friends, how to do, how to exchange people, | 我们总是向我们的美国朋友提出这个话题, 如何做,如何交换人, |
| 20 | warriors and civilians. | 战士和平民 |
| 21 | It's so important to bring kids back also. | 带孩子回来很重要 |
| 22 | This is very important. | 这很重要。 |
| 23 | And our talks with Steve yesterday was very productive meeting. | 我们昨天和史蒂夫的会谈非常有成果 |
| 24 | And thanks to Norway, Norwegian Prime Minister, he hosted us, | 多亏挪威首相 接待了我们 |
| 25 | and a lot of Europeans and our American friends. | 很多欧洲人和我们的美国朋友 |
| 26 | So Steve was and Jared Kushner was online. | 于是史蒂夫和贾里德·库什纳上线. |
| 27 | So we spoke, we shared our ideas. | 因此,我们发言,分享我们的想法。 |
| 28 | Steps forward to the peace. | 走向和平。 |
| 29 | And I wish Steve today productive meeting in Russia and have feedback. | 我祝史蒂夫今天在俄罗斯举行富有成效的会议并获得反馈。 |
| 30 | Because we shared that we are on one side with Americans and Europeans. | 因为我们分享我们与美国人和欧洲人站在一边。 |
| 31 | This is very important that Putin will support the peace. | 这一点非常重要,普京将支持和平。 |
| 32 | Maybe two steps of escalating, like food security peace, food security, | 也许两个步骤的升级, 如粮食安全和平,粮食安全, |
| 33 | sorry, food security, ceasefire, ceasefire on the sea, or energy ceasefire, | 对不起,粮食安全,停火,海上停火,或能源停火, |
| 34 | which is very important, which was raised by President Trump. | 这是川普总统提出的 |
| 35 | I think it was a strong idea from the president. | 我想这是总统的有力想法 |
| 36 | I supported it immediately. | 我马上支持它。 |
| 37 | So I hope that, I hope, Brian, that today in, I don't know, some hours, | 所以我希望,我希望,布莱恩, 今天,我不知道,几小时, |
| 38 | we will have some results. | 我们将取得一些结果。 |
| 39 | God bless positive. | 上帝保佑我们 |
| 40 | So what the Russians want to do, and I'll give this simple course. | 所以俄国人想做什么,我会给这个简单的课程。 |
| 41 | They invaded you. | 他们入侵了你。 |
| 42 | They did in 2014, did it again in 22. | 他们在2014年做了,22年又做了一次. |
| 43 | They invaded you. | 他们入侵了你。 |
| 44 | They want Ukraine. | 他们想要乌克兰。 |
| 45 | They thought they could take it right away. | 他们以为他们可以马上拿走 |
| 46 | So they essentially are saying, the way I understand it, | 因此,他们实质上是说, 按照我的理解, |
| 47 | if you give up Donbass, if you give up the Donbass region, | 如果你放弃唐巴斯 如果你放弃唐巴斯地区 |
| 48 | this war could end tomorrow, everything else freezes. | 这场战争可能明天结束, 其他一切都冻结。 |
| 49 | They have not earned it on the battlefield. | 他们在战场上没赚到钱 |
| 50 | Would you be willing to give it up in negotiations? | 你愿意在谈判中放弃吗? |
| 51 | So, Brian, it's not the first time when they said that they are, I mean, | 布莱恩,他们不是第一次说他们是,我的意思是, |
| 52 | have good, positive and successful operation on the battlefield. | 在战场上有良好的,积极的和成功的行动. |
| 53 | It's not true between us. | 我们之间不是真的 |
| 54 | In 2026, they didn't have success. | 2026年,他们没有成功. |
| 55 | They're not winning on the battlefield. | 他们不会在战场上获胜 |
| 56 | That's why they want us to push using any kind of, you know, | 这就是为什么他们要我们用任何一种,你知道的, |
| 57 | any kind of pressure on us to push us from our land. | 任何压力 迫使我们从我们的土地。 |
| 58 | It's not fair. | 这不公平 |
| 59 | And, of course, they use massive attacks with Iranian drones, | 当然,他们用伊朗无人机发动大规模攻击, |
| 60 | ballistic missiles, and et cetera, to make a chaos in my country. | 弹道导弹,等等, 在我国制造混乱。 |
| 61 | But we stay strong. | 但我们要坚强 |
| 62 | People are tired, of course. | 人们当然累了。 |
| 63 | We want to end this war as quick as possible. | 我们要尽快结束这场战争 |
| 64 | Yes, but, you know, nobody can't just live by ourselves, | 是的,但是,你知道, 没有人可以只生活我们自己, |
| 65 | live in our countries, our houses. | 住在我们的国家,我们的房子。 |
| 66 | Yes, it's our children. | 是的,这是我们的孩子。 |
| 67 | So we speak about stay where we stay. | 所以,我们谈论留在我们住的地方。 |
| 68 | Let's move to diplomacy. | 转而外交. |
| 69 | It's a great idea of ceasefire of president of the United States. | 这是美国总统停火的伟大想法. |
| 70 | I think from the very beginning of his term, it was in spring. | 我想从他任期一开始,就在春天。 |
| 71 | And he said that let's make peace. | 他说让我们和好 |
| 72 | Let's make ceasefire, no killings. | 让我们实现停火,不要杀人. |
| 73 | And I supported this. | 我支持这个。 |
| 74 | I think we have to start from the point where we stay. | 我认为我们必须从我们住的地方开始。 |
| 75 | Move to diplomatic way. | 向外交方向移动 |
| 76 | And then on the tactical level, we will find a way of peace plan and et cetera. | 然后在战术层面,我们将找到和平计划等办法。 |
| 77 | That is what's important. | 这一点很重要。 |
| 78 | And, of course, from the America. | 当然,来自美国。 |
| 79 | So first of all, I'm very proud that we have such huge support from American people. | 因此,首先,我非常自豪的是,我们得到了美国人民的如此巨大的支持. |
| 80 | And, you know, that security guarantees is the most important. | 而且,你知道, 安全保障是最重要的。 |
| 81 | Just peace, but with the security, not to give any chance for any aggressor in the future. | 只有和平,但有安全,将来不给任何侵略者任何机会。 |
| 82 | Come back with aggression. | 带着侵略回来 |
| 83 | The most important thing for our people. | 对我们人民来说最重要的事情 |
| 84 | Of course, the most important to think about the future. | 当然,思考未来的最重要的. |
| 85 | Security future, prosperity future for our country. | 安全未来,我国繁荣未来. |
| 86 | Security guarantees. | 安全保障。 |
| 87 | Our army, but not only. | 我们的军队 不仅如此 |
| 88 | Our partners, of course, first of all, United States and Europe. | 当然,我们的伙伴首先是美国和欧洲。 |
| 89 | And is it true, Mr. President, that even if you signed a deal, it has to go to your Parliament. | 主席先生,这是真的, 即使你签署了协议, 它必须去你的议会。 |
| 90 | And the people of Ukraine and basically your representatives have to sign off on a deal. | 乌克兰人民和基本上你们的代表必须签个协议。 |
| 91 | So it's not Zelensky and Putin. | 所以这不是泽连斯基和普京. |
| 92 | Putin can do what he wants. | 普京可以随心所欲. |
| 93 | But you still have to go to your Parliament with a deal that they would accept, correct? | 但你还是得去你的议会 做他们会接受的交易 对吗? |
| 94 | 我想这么做 I want. | |
| 95 | I wanted very much to go to Parliament. | 我很想去议会 |
| 96 | It's a better way. | 这是更好的方法。 |
| 97 | Because if we want to move, if we want to have some, I don't know, compromises, | 因为如果我们想搬家,如果我们想要一些, 我不知道,妥协, |
| 98 | first of all, we have to ask our people because they stand. | 首先,我们必须问我们的人民,因为他们站着。 |
| 99 | They lost people. | 他们失去了人。 |
| 100 | They lost children. | 他们失去了孩子。 |
| 101 | They lost, I mean, these relatives and houses and etc. | 他们失去了,我的意思是, 这些亲戚和房子等等。 |
| 102 | You can't just, you know, sign and that's all. | 你不能只是,你知道, 签名和仅此而已。 |
| 103 | Of course, we can sign. | 当然,我们可以签字。 |
| 104 | Of course, we can support or not support the deal. | 当然,我们可以支持或不支持这项交易。 |
| 105 | But first of all, only one nation has to support it. | 但首先,只有一个国家支持它。 |
| 106 | Ukrainian people, because it's our losses. | 乌克兰人民,因为这是我们的损失。 |
| 107 | And that's why I think this is very fair to go to the Parliament and to make a referendum. | 这就是为什么我认为这非常公平 去议会和进行公民投票。 |
| 108 | The Parliament has to support referendum. | 议会必须支持全民投票。 |
| 109 | Got you. | 抓到你们了 |
| 110 | The function. | 职能. |
| 111 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 112 | Just infrastructure for the voting. | 只是投票的基础设施。 |
| 113 | It's, you know, it's a choice of the way to peace. | 这是,你知道, 这是选择通往和平的道路。 |
| 114 | It's the same how the choice, you know, who is the leader. | 同样的选择,你知道,谁是领导者。 |
| 115 | So it's a choice of people. | 故曰择人. |
| 116 | We have a strong democracy in our country. | 我们的国家有强大的民主。 |
| 117 | And that's why I think it's fair. | 故以为理. |
| 118 | But before it, we have to negotiate between us. | 但在此之前,我们必须进行谈判。 |
| 119 | Of course, it's important to negotiate trilaterally. | 当然,三边谈判很重要. |
| 120 | I think this is the best way President Trump with his leadership and me and Russian leader, | 我认为这是特朗普总统的最好方式 他的领导,我和俄罗斯领导人, |
| 121 | trilaterally, better with Europeans, but minimum trilaterally. | 三边,更好的与欧洲人, 但最小的三边。 |
| 122 | I think so. | 我想是这样。 |
| 123 | This is important. | 这很重要。 |
| 124 | And some questions we have to manage also bilaterally. | 还有一些问题我们也必须以双边方式加以解决。 |
| 125 | If there are some questions from Russians to us, and we have questions to Russians, | 如果有俄罗斯人给我们的一些问题, 我们有问题要问俄罗斯人, |
| 126 | especially territorial sensitive questions. | 特别是领土敏感问题。 |
| 127 | Yes. | 对 |
| 128 | I said always, I always said that we are open to negotiate in any format, any topic. | 我总是说,我总是说,我们愿意以任何形式、任何议题进行谈判。 |
| 129 | Got you. | 抓到你们了 |
| 130 | But don't speak about us without us, please. | 但不要说我们没有我们,请。 |
| 131 | Right. | 对 |
| 132 | So you're worried about a trilateral situation with China, Russia, and the U.S. without you, | 所以,你担心一个三边情况 与中国,俄罗斯, 和美国,没有你, |
| 133 | that you would not accept that. | 你不会接受的 |
| 134 | So let's just get to the bottom of this, what's going on with Starlink and Starshield. | 所以,让我们先说清楚,星际链接和星屏是怎么回事. |
| 135 | Is it back up to full speed? | 恢复到全速吗? |
| 136 | Is Starshield able to pick up all these jet-powered drones like it was being able to do? | 星盾能像它能做的一样 接起所有的喷气动力无人机吗? |
| 137 | So first of all, we are thankful for such tactical support from our partners, | 因此,首先,我们感谢我们的伙伴提供这种战术支持, |
| 138 | American partners, and intelligence. | 美国伙伴和情报 |
| 139 | What about we spoke yesterday with Secretary Rubio, by the way. | 昨天我们和鲁比奥部长谈过了 |
| 140 | Now intelligence works. | 现在情报工作。 |
| 141 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
| 142 | That was crucial for us. | 这对我们至关重要。 |
| 143 | That was very dangerous for us not to get early warning information. | 如果我们得不到预警信息,那将是非常危险的。 |
| 144 | After ballistic attacks from Russian side, now it works. | 在从俄罗斯方面进行弹道攻击后,现在成功了。 |
| 145 | That's good. | 这是很好的。 |
| 146 | 关于Starlink,Starshield,仍然有限. | |
| 147 | But the secretary told me that he will work with his team on this to unblock this question. | 但是,秘书告诉我,他会与他的团队合作 解决这个问题。 |
| 148 | God bless. | 上帝保佑你们 |
| 149 | It will be done. | 会办的 |
| 150 | So why over the last few days, one thing I think you understand about the president, | 因此,为什么在过去的几天里, 我想你明白关于总统的事情, |
| 151 | attacking him through the press was never going to be effective. | 通过媒体攻击他是永远不会有效的。 |
| 152 | Why over the last few days were you going so public | 为什么过去几天你这么公开 |
| 153 | with your disapproval of what the president was doing? | 你不同意总统在做什么? |
| 154 | So with the Starlink, Starshield, we had the problem, massive attacks of Iranian drones on us | 星际迷航,星屏,我们遇到了问题 伊朗无人机对我们的大规模攻击 |
| 155 | and couldn't be stopped by our drones interceptors because we used Starlinks. | 无法被无人机拦截 因为我们使用了星际连线 |
| 156 | It's not for offensive, just not to, you know, not to have a disappointment messages. | 这不是攻击性的, 只是不,你知道, 没有失望的信息。 |
| 157 | It's not for offensive. | 这不是攻击性的 |
| 158 | We used it only for defending our lives and only by the way civilians, | 我们只用它来保卫我们的生命 并且只是通过平民的方式 |
| 159 | because it's in the cities, in the villages. | 因为它在城市,在村庄。 |
| 160 | We have these drones interceptors using Starlinks. | 我们有无人机拦截器 使用星际链接。 |
| 161 | And when the speed is limited, speed five times began to be less, | 当速度有限时, 速度5次开始减少, |
| 162 | five times decreased than Shaheed, Iranian Shaheed, and we couldn't destroy. | 5倍于沙希德 伊朗沙希德 我们无法摧毁 |
| 163 | And the second part, we have, you know, villages on the front line, | 第二部分 我们有前线的村庄 |
| 164 | which are under Russian block, artillery, drones, etc. | 被俄国人封锁,大炮,无人机等 |
| 165 | And people cannot survive there. | 人们在那里无法生存。 |
| 166 | The soldiers are there and they can't get, you know, | 士兵在那里,他们不能得到,你知道, |
| 167 | No, I understand, I understand about Starshield. | 不,我理解,我理解星盾的事。 |
| 168 | By these Starlinks, we use it by this. | 通过这些星际链接,我们用这个。 |
| 169 | That's why it was so important. | 这就是为什么它是如此重要。 |
| 170 | Have you seen any indication that Vladimir Putin wants peace and end to this? | 你有没有看到任何迹象表明弗拉基米尔·普京想要和平和结束这一切? |
| 171 | And number two, if you could answer directly, | 第二 如果你能直接回答的话 |
| 172 | would you accept a peace deal that freezes everything the way it is right now, | 你会接受一个和平协议 冻结一切的方式现在, |
| 173 | where you still keep 75% or more of your country, regardless of how it started? | 在那里你仍然保留75%或更多 你的国家,无论它是如何开始的? |
| 174 | Would you be, would you accept where it is right now? | 你会接受吗? |
| 175 | Yes, if we right now, we have to freeze. | 是的,如果我们现在, 我们必须冻结。 |
| 176 | And I think this is a real way to end this war. | 我认为这是结束这场战争的真正方法。 |
| 177 | We call it ceasefire or stop killings like President Trump called it. | 我们称其为停火,或像川普总统所称的那样停止杀戮. |
| 178 | Freeze and stop. | 别动,停下来 |
| 179 | And of course, this is minimum what we need from Russia today. | 当然,这是我们今天从俄罗斯需要的最起码的东西。 |
| 180 | Then, of course, we will go to the president and to Europeans | 当然,我们会去找总统和欧洲人 |
| 181 | and we'll ask security guarantees. | 我们会要求安全担保 |
| 182 | The most important is peace and also security peace. | 最重要的是和平以及安全和平。 |
| 183 | This is the most important. | 这是最重要的。 |
| 184 | Not to have, you know, not to be afraid, | 不是有,你知道, 不害怕, |
| 185 | and that occupation will come back, aggression will come back, | 而占领将复,侵略将复, |
| 186 | killings will come back until we have to stop this. | 杀戮会回来 直到我们阻止这一切 |
| 187 | And that's why freeze and talks. | 故曰结冻而谈. |
| 188 | And security guarantees from the United States. | 还有美国的安全保障 |
| 189 | And prosperity from our partners for renovation of our lives. | 和繁荣 从我们的伙伴 改造我们的生活。 |
| 190 | We need 9.5 million people which lost their houses, which are abroad everywhere. | 我们需要950万人失去他们的房子,这些房子遍布国外。 |
| 191 | We need them to come back to Ukraine just to live and to build their country. | 我们需要他们回到乌克兰,只是为了生存和建设自己的国家。 |
| 192 | President Zelensky, thanks so much for your time. | 泽连斯基总统 非常感谢你抽空来 |
| 193 | Steve Witkoff有你会面的结果 | |
| 194 | He's presenting to Vladimir Putin right now. | 他现在正向弗拉基米尔·普京呈递. |
| 195 | Hopefully we start talking about peace and we talk one day | 希望我们开始谈和平 有一天我们谈 |
| 196 | about what life looks like after the war. | 关于战后的生活是什么样子。 |
| 197 | President Zelensky, thanks so much. | 泽连斯基总统,非常感谢 |
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