GDP增长了，可你离梦想更近了吗？TED演讲：为什么一个国家
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| 0:03 | What do you want to be when you grow up? | 长大后想当甚么. |
| 0:06 | At age four, I wanted to become a computer scientist. | 四岁时,我想成为一名计算机科学家。 |
| 0:10 | At five, a vacuum cleaner salesman. | 5岁,一个吸尘器销售员。 |
| 0:13 | At six, a priest. | 6岁,一个牧师。 |
| 0:16 | At 17, an award-winning filmmaker. | 17岁,获奖电影人. |
| 0:19 | And at 22, when it was finally time to decide on my first job, | 22岁的时候,终于该决定我的第一份工作了, |
| 0:24 | I became a management consultant. | 我成了管理顾问 |
| 0:28 | What do you want to be when you grow up? | 长大后想当甚么. |
| 0:30 | I'm sure everyone here has been asked some version of that question, | 我敢肯定,这里的每个人都 被问到一个版本的问题, |
| 0:33 | but perhaps not recently. | 也许不是最近。 |
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| 1 | What do you want to be when you grow up? | 长大后想当甚么. |
| 2 | At age four, I wanted to become a computer scientist. | 四岁时,我想成为一名计算机科学家。 |
| 3 | At five, a vacuum cleaner salesman. | 5岁,一个吸尘器销售员。 |
| 4 | At six, a priest. | 6岁,一个牧师。 |
| 5 | At 17, an award-winning filmmaker. | 17岁,获奖电影人. |
| 6 | And at 22, when it was finally time to decide on my first job, | 22岁的时候,终于该决定我的第一份工作了, |
| 7 | I became a management consultant. | 我成了管理顾问 |
| 8 | What do you want to be when you grow up? | 长大后想当甚么. |
| 9 | I'm sure everyone here has been asked some version of that question, | 我敢肯定,这里的每个人都 被问到一个版本的问题, |
| 10 | but perhaps not recently. | 也许不是最近。 |
| 11 | Somehow, the questions have changed. | 不知何故,问题有所改变。 |
| 12 | What do you do for work? | 你是做什么工作的吗? |
| 13 | How much money do you make? | 你赚多少钱? |
| 14 | Where are you going on your next vacation? | 下个假期你要去哪里? |
| 15 | We've become obsessed with asking these types of questions | 我们开始沉迷于问这类问题 |
| 16 | to measure even our nation's productivity. | 以衡量我们国家的生产力 |
| 17 | We track growth rates, remittances and exports | 我们跟踪增长率、汇款和出口 |
| 18 | without really asking if these numbers reflect the lives | 不问这些数字是否反映了生活 |
| 19 | that people are trying to live. | 人们试图活下去。 |
| 20 | I see the problems with the system at home in the Philippines. | 我看到菲律宾国内系统的问题。 |
| 21 | Our GDP is soaring. | 我国GDP飞涨. |
| 22 | But we're doing it in a way that doesn't quite align | 但我们这样做的方式 不太一致 |
| 23 | with the kind of lives that people want to live. | 和人们想要的生活 |
| 24 | For one, we send millions of people abroad | 我们把数百万人送出国 |
| 25 | to take care of other people's parents and children, | 照顾别人的父母和孩子, |
| 26 | and we train millions more to stay awake while their families are asleep | 我们训练了数百万人 趁他们家人睡着的时候保持清醒 |
| 27 | so they can be up all night answering phone calls | 所以他们可以整夜不睡 接电话 |
| 28 | from halfway across the world about how much money is in their bank account. | 从半个世界 关于他们的银行账户里有多少钱。 |
| 29 | And somehow, we're rewarded for it. | 不知何故,我们得到奖励 |
| 30 | We're told that we're Southeast Asia's second-fastest-growing economy, | 我们被告知,我们是东南亚第二快速增长的经济, |
| 31 | and in a few years, | 在几年内, |
| 32 | we'll be upgraded to an upper-middle-income country. | 我们会升格为中高收入国家 |
| 33 | As a nation, | 作为一个国家, |
| 34 | we've become really good at hitting metrics | и竒跑眔 |
| 35 | that were never ours to begin with | 那从来就不是我们的 |
| 36 | and climbing a ladder that was designed by those | 爬上由他们设计的梯子 |
| 37 | who were already sitting on top of it. | 他们已经坐在上面。 |
| 38 | But what would happen if you asked Filipinos what metrics mattered to them? | 但是如果你问菲律宾人, |
| 39 | What would happen if you tried to measure dreams? | 如果你试图测量梦想会怎么样? |
| 40 | Last year, my colleagues and I at BCG | 去年我和我在卡介苗的同事 |
| 41 | ran a nationwide nationally representative survey | * 开展全国代表性调查 |
| 42 | to answer this very question. | 回答这个问题。 |
| 43 | Now, look, no client had ever asked us about dreams, | 现在,你看,没有客户曾经问过我们 关于梦想, |
| 44 | but if you look at the websites and mission statements | 但是如果你看看网站和任务说明 |
| 45 | of the country's largest businesses, | 国家最大的企业, |
| 46 | all of them are trying to connect their work to national development in some way. | 他们都试图以某种方式把工作与国家发展联系起来。 |
| 47 | And so we knew that even if nobody was asking the question, | 所以我们知道,即使没有人问这个问题, |
| 48 | the answer was one that many people would be interested in. | 答案是许多人会感兴趣的。 |
| 49 | We discovered three things. | 我们发现了三件事 |
| 50 | First, we discovered what the Filipino dream was. | 首先,我们发现了菲律宾梦是什么。 |
| 51 | The number one ranked dream across all socioeconomic segments | 在所有社会经济阶层中 排名第一的梦想 |
| 52 | was to achieve financial security, to absorb health scares. | 实现财政保障 吸收健康恐惧 |
| 53 | Well, we learned more than that, we also heard stories. | 我们学到了更多,我们也听到一些故事。 |
| 54 | We heard stories like that of Tidri, 26-year-old preschool teacher, | 我们听到的故事 像Tidri,26岁的学前老师, |
| 55 | who dreams of becoming a beauty queen, a host, a politician, | 梦想成为一位美人女王 东道主 政治家 |
| 56 | and opening a hair salon just like her grandmother. | 开个发廊 就像她奶奶一样 |
| 57 | But right now, Tidri can't afford to do that | 但是现在,蒂德里不能这样做 |
| 58 | because she still has to help pay for her grandfather's health care bills | 因为她还得付外公的医疗费 |
| 59 | because he just had a stroke. | 因为他刚刚中风了 |
| 60 | Second, we learned who those dreams are for. | 第二,我们了解到那些梦想是给谁的。 |
| 61 | Most Filipinos don't actually dream for themselves. | 大多数菲律宾人实际上并不为自己做梦. |
| 62 | They dream for their extended family. | 他们梦想着他们的大家庭。 |
| 63 | We met people like Joey, 56-year-old radio technician | 我们遇见了像乔伊这样的人 56岁的无线电技师 |
| 64 | who works from 2 a.m. to 11 p.m. most nights. | 工作时间为上午2时至下午11时。 |
| 65 | He lives in a boarding house close to the station, | 他住在车站附近的寄宿房里 |
| 66 | given the demands of his job, | 考虑到他的工作要求 |
| 67 | but still wants to be a farmer, a social worker, and a high school teacher. | 但还是想当个农民、社工和高中教师。 |
| 68 | But he really wants to retire. | 但他真的想退休。 |
| 69 | But every time he asks his company, they say, | 但是,每当他问他的公司, 他们说, |
| 70 | Not yet. | 还没 |
| 71 | Right now, he doesn't really have a choice | 现在他别无选择 |
| 72 | because he still has to finish paying for his daughter's education. | 因为他还得付他女儿的教育费 |
| 73 | And third, we learned how people perceived institutions | 第三,我们学会了人们如何看待机构 |
| 74 | as helping them achieve those dreams. | 作为帮助他们实现这些梦想。 |
| 75 | We learned that most Filipinos actually didn't feel like public | 我们得知,大多数菲律宾人 其实不觉得 像公众 |
| 76 | and private institutions were helping them achieve their dreams, | 私人机构正在帮助他们实现梦想, |
| 77 | and so they could only rely on themselves. | 他们只能依靠自己 |
| 78 | We met people like Sweden, 35-year-old news reporter, | 我们认识瑞典这样的人 35岁的记者 |
| 79 | who spent years moving from one field assignment to another. | 他们花了数年时间从一个外地任务转移到另一个外地任务。 |
| 80 | When she had her first child, | 当她有了第一个孩子时, |
| 81 | she decided to stay home and start a children's clothing business from her garage, | 她决定留在家里 从她的车库开始做儿童服装生意 |
| 82 | believing that making and selling children's clothes online | 相信在网上制作和出售儿童的衣服 |
| 83 | would be a better way of creating financial stability for her family. | 这将是为她家庭创造经济稳定的更好方式。 |
| 84 | Today, she dreams of opening up a flagship store in a mall for her business | 今天她梦想在商场开家旗舰店 |
| 85 | and of buying a second home in the mountains for her family. | 在山上为她的家人买一栋房子 |
| 86 | Tidri, Joey, Sweden and 1,500 other Filipinos who've interviewed | Tidri、Joey、瑞典和另外1500名接受过采访的菲律宾人 |
| 87 | all still want to be something when they grow up. | 他们长大后都想做点什么 |
| 88 | And their dreams seem so achievable, | 他们的梦想似乎可以实现 |
| 89 | but somehow, to them, they still feel out of reach. | 但不知何故,对他们来说,他们仍然感到无法接近。 |
| 90 | We shared this report with clients, the business community, | 我们与客户,商业界, |
| 91 | media, even government officials. | 媒体,甚至政府官员。 |
| 92 | And every single time, they ask us the question, | 每次他们都问我们问题 |
| 93 | why hasn't this been done before? | 为什么以前没有这样做? |
| 94 | Why haven't we tried to measure dreams? | 为什么我们没有试着衡量梦想呢? |
| 95 | Look, there are many reasons, | 听着 有很多原因 |
| 96 | but I think it's because those who have the power to ask the question | 但我认为这是因为 那些有权力问问题的人 |
| 97 | think they already know the answer. | 他们已经知道答案了 |
| 98 | In every single forum where I've asked the question, | 在每一个论坛 我问过这个问题, |
| 99 | what do you think is the number one Filipino dream, | 你觉得菲律宾梦是什么? |
| 100 | I've never seen the most senior person in the room answer it correctly. | 我从来没有见过最高级的人 在房间里回答正确。 |
| 101 | They usually guess something safe, like to buy a house, | 他们通常会猜到安全的东西 比如买房子 |
| 102 | or something generic, like to have a happy family. | 或者是普通的,喜欢有一个快乐的家庭。 |
| 103 | Less than about 5 percent of people guess it, | 不到5%的人猜测, |
| 104 | and it's usually somebody more junior, | 通常更年轻一些 |
| 105 | somebody who grew up in a lower-income family | 在低收入家庭长大的人 |
| 106 | and worked their way up the ladder. | 并在梯子上努力前进 |
| 107 | And I wonder, in how many other countries in the world | 我想知道,世界上有多少其他国家 |
| 108 | is this actually happening, | 这是真的发生, |
| 109 | where what we call development is really just watching some number somewhere | 我们称之为发展的地方 真的是在看某个数字 |
| 110 | going up and to the right, | 上到右边 |
| 111 | but people on the ground feel nowhere closer | 但地面上的人感觉更接近 |
| 112 | to where they're actually trying to go than they were yesterday, | 到他们真正想去的地方 比昨天, |
| 113 | where the only way up is out. | 在那里唯一的出路是出来。 |
| 114 | But wait, we already have something better than GDP, right? | 但等一下,我们已经有比GDP更好的东西了,对吧? |
| 115 | Doesn't gross national happiness measure the same thing? | 国民幸福总值不是衡量同样的事情吗? |
| 116 | Look, Bhutan's G&H, I think, has really redefined development for them. | 不丹的G&H,我想, 已经真正重新定义了他们的发展。 |
| 117 | It's asked whether people are happy, whether their culture is thriving, | 有人问人们是否快乐 他们的文化是否繁荣 |
| 118 | and whether they feel spiritually fulfilled. | 以及他们是否觉得精神满足。 |
| 119 | But being happy today is very different | 但今天快乐是完全不同的 |
| 120 | from feeling like you're coming closer to your dreams. | 感觉你越来越接近梦想 |
| 121 | Bhutan might be one of the most obsessed countries in the world | 不丹可能是世界上最痴迷的国家之一 |
| 122 | with measuring happiness, | 与幸福的量度, |
| 123 | but about 10 percent of their skilled and educated population | 大约10%的有技能和受过教育的人口 |
| 124 | emigrated in 2022. | 2022年移民迁居. |
| 125 | Maybe that's the problem with measuring happiness. | 也许这就是衡量幸福的问题 |
| 126 | I could be happy today because I've got everything I need | 我今天可以快乐 因为我有我需要的一切 |
| 127 | and things are going well, | 事情进展顺利, |
| 128 | but I might not actually be closer to where I'm trying to go. | 但我可能没有真正接近 我试图去的地方。 |
| 129 | And I think that's what measuring dreams can do for us. | 我想这就是衡量梦想对我们的作用。 |
| 130 | Look, not only at how we feel today, | 听着,不只是我们今天的感受 |
| 131 | but at the vector of that progress over time. | 但随着时间推移 进展的载体。 |
| 132 | And I don't think what I'm suggesting is too far off. | 我不认为我的建议太远了。 |
| 133 | After all, most of us here already work for companies | 毕竟,我们这里大部分人 已经为公司工作了 |
| 134 | that have HR departments that measure the progression of our employees. | 有人力资源部门 测量我们雇员的进度。 |
| 135 | So why couldn't our countries have HR departments | 为什么我们国家没有人力资源部门 |
| 136 | that measure the personal ambition and fulfillment of its citizens? | 衡量其公民的个人野心和成就? |
| 137 | If every country has a Department of Defense, | 如果每个国家都有国防部 |
| 138 | why couldn't we have a Department of Dreams? | 为什么我们没有梦想部? |
| 139 | Imagine this, the annual Aspiration of the Nation report | 试想一下,每年的国情报告 |
| 140 | presented by the Secretary of Dreams. | 由梦之秘书介绍. |
| 141 | It looks at what people dream of by age, by income group, by geography. | 它按年龄、收入群体、地理来观察人们的梦想。 |
| 142 | It looks at how people came up with their dreams, | 它看着人们如何实现梦想, |
| 143 | how they graduate to bigger ones, | 他们怎样变成更大的, |
| 144 | and when they decide to give up on old dreams. | 当他们决定放弃旧梦时 |
| 145 | Imagine national dream centers | 想象一下国家梦想中心 |
| 146 | where you could attend trainings on making personal progress, | 在那里你可以参加关于个人进步的培训, |
| 147 | or social workers trained as life coaches who can help keep you on track. | 或接受过生活教练培训的社工 可以帮助你走上正轨 |
| 148 | Imagine the Department of Dreams could work with the Department of Health | 想象梦想部可以和卫生部合作 |
| 149 | to measure how health care emergencies affect ambition. | 衡量保健紧急情况如何影响抱负。 |
| 150 | Could we not improve health care outcomes | 难道我们不能改善保健成果吗? |
| 151 | if you took a lens at how these emergencies affect ambition and motivation? | 如果你看一眼这些紧急情况 如何影响野心和动机? |
| 152 | The Department of Dreams could work with the Department of Trade and Industry | 梦想部可以与贸易和工业部合作 |
| 153 | to ensure that when people say they have these dream businesses, | 确保当人们说 他们有这些梦想的生意, |
| 154 | they actually get the tools to create them. | 他们实际上得到了创造它们的工具。 |
| 155 | Or with the Department of Labor, | 或与劳工部, |
| 156 | to ensure that the jobs that people say they want | 确保人们说想要的工作 |
| 157 | are the same jobs that are being created. | 与正在创造的工作相同。 |
| 158 | Or with the Department of Education, | 或者与教育部, |
| 159 | to train future students for those dream jobs. | 培养未来的学生 做那些梦想的工作。 |
| 160 | Look, I understand that there are free markets, | 听着 我知道有自由市场 |
| 161 | but could we not imagine a world where people said, | 但我们难道不能想象一个 人们说, |
| 162 | I want to become a writer or a historian or an astronaut or a psychiatrist, | 我想成为一名作家或历史学家 或宇航员或精神病医生 |
| 163 | and government said, | 政府说, |
| 164 | sure, we'll find a way to make that happen? | 当然,我们会找到办法 做到这一点? |
| 165 | Imagine how much better the world would be | 想象一下世界会有多美好 |
| 166 | if everyone was obsessed with helping each other achieve their dreams, | 如果每个人都沉迷于帮助对方实现梦想 |
| 167 | and somehow, | 不知为何, |
| 168 | there was a government official somewhere accountable for making that happen. | 有个政府官员要为此负责 |
| 169 | There's so much more we still want to do in our work in measuring dreams, | 在衡量梦想方面,我们还有很多事情要做 |
| 170 | and we're really just getting started. | 我们才刚刚开始 |
| 171 | For one, we hope to run this survey every few years | 我们希望能每隔几年进行一次调查 |
| 172 | to see how these dreams change over time. | 以观察这些梦想随着时间的变化。 |
| 173 | We also want to run the survey in other markets | 我们还想在其他市场进行调查 |
| 174 | to see how the Filipino dream might be different from the Malaysian dream | 看菲律宾的梦可能与马来西亚的梦不同 |
| 175 | or the Emirati dream, | 或酋长的梦; |
| 176 | and encourage governments and companies around the world | 并鼓励世界各地的政府和公司 |
| 177 | to begin taking dreams more seriously. | 开始更认真对待梦想 |
| 178 | And so let's measure dreams. | 因此,让我们衡量梦想。 |
| 179 | Let's measure what people dream of | 让我们来衡量人们的梦想 |
| 180 | and how the content of those dreams changes over time. | 以及这些梦想的内容如何随时间而变化。 |
| 181 | Let's measure how much progress people feel like they made versus last year, | 让我们来衡量一下人们觉得去年的进展 |
| 182 | and how much more progress they think they'll make looking into next year. | 以及他们认为明年会取得更多进展 |
| 183 | And then let's measure whether people perceive institutions as helping them | 然后让我们来衡量人们是否认为 机构帮助他们 |
| 184 | or holding them back from achieving those dreams. | 或者阻止他们实现这些梦想 |
| 185 | And then let's create the conditions | 然后让我们创造条件 |
| 186 | that allow people to truly live their dreams. | 让人们真正实现梦想 |
| 187 | After all, | 毕竟. |
| 188 | we all still want to be something when we grow up. | 我们长大后都想做点什么 |
| 189 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
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