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0:00October 2026, and I can invite you here2026年10月,我可以邀请你来这里
0:03to our global press conference in a hybrid version以混合版本提交全球新闻发布会
0:08with journalists in the room and online globally.与记者在房间里和全球在线。
0:13Now, let me introduce the panel that we have today.现在,让我介绍我们今天的小组讨论。
0:17First and foremost, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.首先,特德罗斯·阿德哈诺姆·盖布列耶斯博士.
0:21To his right side, Dr. Maria von Kirchhoff,他的右侧,玛丽亚・冯・基什霍夫博士,
0:23Director for WHO's Department of Epidemic and Pandemic卫生组织流行病和大流行病部主任
0:27Management.管理.
0:28然后我们有Mac Daughterty博士,主任
0:30for the Department of Science for Health.为卫生科学部服务。
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1October 2026, and I can invite you here2026年10月,我可以邀请你来这里
2to our global press conference in a hybrid version以混合版本提交全球新闻发布会
3with journalists in the room and online globally.与记者在房间里和全球在线。
4Now, let me introduce the panel that we have today.现在,让我介绍我们今天的小组讨论。
5First and foremost, Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus.首先,特德罗斯·阿德哈诺姆·盖布列耶斯博士.
6To his right side, Dr. Maria von Kirchhoff,他的右侧,玛丽亚・冯・基什霍夫博士,
7Director for WHO's Department of Epidemic and Pandemic卫生组织流行病和大流行病部主任
8Management.管理.
9然后我们有Mac Daughterty博士,主任
10for the Department of Science for Health.为卫生科学部服务。
11Then we have Dr. Mark van Omeren,然后是马克・范・奥梅伦医生
12the head for Mental Health and Substance Use Unit.心理健康和药物使用股长。
13On Dr. Tedros' other side, we first在特德罗斯医生的另一边 我们先
14have Dr. Abdirahman Mahmoud, the Director for Health Emergency有阿卜迪拉赫曼·马哈茂德博士, 卫生急诊主任
15Alert and Response Operations.警报和反应行动。
16And last but not least, we have Dr. Pascal Allotte,最后但并非最不重要的是 帕斯卡尔·阿洛特医生
17Director for the Department of Sexual and Reproductive性和生殖司司长
18Maternal Child and Adolescent Health and Aging.母婴健康与老龄化。
19We have a couple of other colleagues in the room我们房间里还有几个同事
20and online who we'll come to if the situation arises.如果情况出现,我们会找到谁?
21Now, before I give the floor to Dr. Tedros,在我请特德罗斯博士发言之前
22again just the run of show, we will have first the remarks我们首先要发表评论
23{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}由Tedros医生负责 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}他回答问题
24And please raise your hands with the raise your hand icon请举起手来
25or here in the room, of course, to get或在这里的房间,当然,得到
26into the queue for questions.输入问题队列。
27We'll first take normally three questions from the room我们先从房间问三个问题
28and we'll then move online if this is the situation.如果情况是这样,我们就会上网
29So thank you very much for that.因此非常感谢你。
30还有Tedros医生
31Thank you.谢谢
32Thank you, Christian.谢谢你,克里斯蒂安。
33Good morning, good afternoon, and good evening.早上好,下午好,晚上还好
34Last Friday, the 2nd of October, the first media reports上星期五,10月2日, 第一批媒体报道
35emerged of a suspected case of mnemonic plague出现疑似肿瘤鼠疫病例
36in a laboratory worker at the Irkutsk Anti-Plague Research在伊尔库茨克反普拉格研究实验室工作
37Institute in the Russian Federation.俄罗斯联邦研究所。
38The lab worker died after being hospitalized实验室工作人员住院后死亡
39with severe pneumonia.有严重的肺炎。
40Initial media reports suggested mnemonic plague following最初的媒体报道显示,随后出现了恶性瘟疫。
41an accidental lab exposure.实验室意外暴露
42WHO is aware that the Russian government held a meeting世卫组织知道俄罗斯政府举行了一次会议
43on the 2nd of October because they suspected10月2日,因为他们怀疑
44a resident of the Irkutsk Oblast had contracted伊尔库茨克州居民
45a dangerous infection.一个危险的感染。
46On Saturday, WHO asked the Russian Federation星期六,卫生组织问俄罗斯联邦:
47for more information in accordance详细情况
48with the international health regulations.国际卫生条例。
49Yesterday, the Russian Federation昨天,俄罗斯联邦
50responded saying that no case of plague回应说没有瘟疫病例
51had recently been reported in the Irkutsk Oblast最近在伊尔库茨克州报告
52and that they had placed about 200 contacts in quarantine.他们已经隔离了大约200个联系人
53However, WHO has requested further information然而,卫生组织要求提供进一步资料。
54on the lab tests conducted on the individual who died对死亡者进行化验
55and the contacts, more detail on what prompted和联系人, 更详细地说明是什么原因
56the public health measures, and details about the health status公共卫生措施,以及健康状况的详情
57of the contacts.联系人。
58We have also sought verification of media reports我们还要求核实媒体报道
59of a second employee with pneumonia of undetermined cause.第二名患有不明原因肺炎的雇员。
60WHO has offered technical support related to plague卫生组织提供了与瘟疫有关的技术支助
61and lab biosafety and biosecurity.以及实验室生物安全和生物安保。
62And we don't yet have the full picture of this event我们还没完全了解这件事情
63and we're not able to conduct a full risk assessment.我们无法进行全面的风险评估
64Timely, complete, and transparent information sharing及时、完整和透明的信息共享
65under the international regulations is essential根据国际条例,
66to clarify conflicting reports澄清相互矛盾的报告
67and enable an accurate assessment准确评估
68of potential public health risks.潜在的公共卫生风险。
69Now, to the Ebola epidemic in the Democratic Republic现在,到埃博拉疫情 在民主共和国
70of the Congo, the number of confirmed cases刚果,确诊病例数
71has now reached 8,665, with 4,178 confirmed deaths.现已达到8 665人,4 178人确诊死亡。
72In some areas, there are clear signs在一些地区,有明显的迹象
73that the epidemic is slowing down,疫情在减缓,
74although in others, it's continuing to grow.虽然在别的地方,它继续增长.
75Since the outbreak began,自从爆发以来
76contact tracing has improved significantly.联系人追踪工作显著改善。
77Around 2,000 alerts are reported every day每天报告约2 000次警报
78and about 5 million people have been reached约500万人已经到达
79through community engagement activities.通过社区参与活动。
80Clinical trials of therapeutics are progressing临床治疗试验正在进行中
81with more than 600 people enrolled.有600多人入学。
82A vaccine trial is expected to start later this month预计本月晚些时候将开始疫苗试验
83and we're working on ensuring access to these products我们正在努力确保这些产品
84should they prove efficacious in trials.如果在审判中证明他们是有效的。
85These advances are the result of hard work over many months这些进步是几个月来辛勤工作的结果
86by communities and partners社区和合作伙伴
87under the leadership of the government.在政府的领导下
88But we continue to face significant challenges.但是,我们继续面临重大挑战。
89The majority of deaths still happen in the community大部分死亡仍然发生在社区
90instead of in treatment centers而不是在治疗中心
91and contact tracing is still not at the level needed.并且追踪联系人仍然没有达到所需的水平。
92And we cannot forget that this epidemic is unfolding我们不能忘记这种流行病正在蔓延
93in an area beset by prolonged humanitarian crisis.在一个长期人道主义危机困扰的地区。
94While transmission is going down overall,虽然传输总体下降,
95new hotspots continue to appear,新热点继续出现,
96including in areas close to the border with South Sudan.包括在与南苏丹接壤的边境地区。
97And as you know, Kenya yesterday reported a case of Ebola如你所知 肯尼亚昨天报告了一例埃博拉病毒
98in a Kenyan citizen who fell ill in DRC在刚果民主共和国境内生病的肯尼亚公民
99and was treated at several facilities there,并在那里的若干设施接受治疗,
100then traveled to the Kenyan capital, Nairobi,然后前往肯尼亚首都内罗毕,
101via the Ugandan capital, Kampala.途经乌干达首都坎帕拉。
102Immediately upon arrival in Nairobi,到达内罗毕后,
103he was taken to hospital where he was isolated他被送进医院被隔离
104and Ebola was confirmed.埃博拉病毒被证实。
105He received care but died on Monday this week.他接受了治疗,但本周一去世。
106Kenyan authorities are monitoring 55 contacts,肯尼亚当局正在监测55个联系人,
107including passengers and crew who were with the patient包括和病人在一起的乘客和机组人员
108on the flight from Kampala to Nairobi.从坎帕拉飞往内罗毕的航班。
109Yesterday I spoke to the cabinet secretary昨天我跟内阁秘书谈过了
110to discuss the case and the measures讨论案件和措施
111that Kenya had taken to prepare for an event like this.肯尼亚准备了这样的活动。
112I commend the Kenyan government for its prompt action我赞扬肯尼亚政府迅速采取行动。
113and for reporting the case to WHO并向卫生组织报告案件
114under the international health regulations in a timely way.及时根据国际卫生条例。
115WHO advises against blanket travel or trade restrictions卫生组织就全面旅行或贸易限制提供咨询意见
116which are less effective than screening contact tracing与筛查联系人追踪相比效果较差
117and other measures.及其他措施。
118Transparency should be rewarded, not punished.透明度应得到奖励,而不是惩罚。
119As you know, today marks three years你们知道,今天是三年
120since the horrific attacks by Hamas哈马斯发动的可怕攻击
121and other armed groups on Israel.以及以色列的其他武装团体。
122I recognize and respect the deep and continuing grief我承认并尊重深刻和持续的悲痛
123over those attacks, especially for those袭击,特别是针对
124who lost someone they loved that day那天失去爱人的人
125or who was taken hostage and did not return alive或被扣为人质,而不活着回来的人,
126and have met families a number of times.并多次与家人见面。
127This Saturday marks one year since the ceasefire这个星期六是停火的一年
128between Israel and Hamas took effect.以色列和哈马斯之间生效。
129A year later, the health situation in Gaza remains critical一年后,加沙的健康状况依然严峻
130and the needs of almost 2 million people are overwhelming.将近200万人的需求是巨大的。
131WHO calls for a constant and uninterrupted flow卫生组织呼吁保持不间断的流动
132of supplies at scale, for health services to be restored为恢复保健服务提供大规模用品
133and medical corridors to be opened和即将开放的医疗走廊
134and for the ceasefire to be respected and maintained遵守和维持停火
135and for lasting peace and a political solution.为了持久和平和政治解决。
136Today, WHO released its first guidelines今天,卫生组织公布了第一份准则。
137addressing the sharp rise in obesity解决肥胖症急剧上升的问题
138among children and adolescents.在儿童和青少年中间。
139In the past 25 years, the prevalence of obesity过去25年肥胖症的流行
140among children and adolescents has quadrupled儿童与青少年的入学率翻了两番
141from 2% to 8%.从2%到8%。
142More than 170 million children and adolescents globally全球超过1.7亿儿童和青少年
143now live with obesity.现在生活在肥胖症之中。
144In the new guidelines, WHO strongly recommends在新的准则中,卫生组织强烈建议
145structural changes to diet, behavior and physical activity饮食、行为和体育活动的结构变化
146for children and adolescents with obesity.针对患有肥胖症的儿童和青少年。
147The guidelines also include advice准则还包括咨询意见
148on pharmacological treatment, bariatric surgery药物治疗、儿科手术
149and weight loss devices.和减重装置。
150The guidelines stress that obesity management准则强调肥胖症管理
151should go beyond weight loss and aim to improve health,应超越减肥,并着眼于改善健康,
152functioning and well-being.(b) 运作和福利。
153As always, prevention is better than treatment.同往常一样,预防优于治疗。
154WHO continues to call for policies and measures卫生组织继续呼吁采取政策和措施。
155that make healthy diets and physical activity健康饮食和体育活动
156more accessible and affordable.更方便和负担得起。
157Also today, WHO and partners are launching同样在今天,卫生组织和合作伙伴正在发起
158a new global roadmap on hypertensive disorders关于高血压疾病的新全球路线图
159in pregnancy, including preeclampsia.怀孕,包括惊痫。
160Hypertensive disorders account for about 16%高血压疾病占16%左右
161of maternal deaths globally, resulting in 42,000 deaths全球孕产妇死亡率,导致42 000人死亡
162and more than 500,000 stillbirths and newborn deaths.超过50万个死产和新生儿死亡
163In many countries, women still lack reliable access在许多国家,妇女仍然缺乏可靠的机会
164to basic blood pressure measurement基本血压测量
165and access to testing and essential medicines.获得检测和基本药物。
166Weak referral systems, short days of trained health workers转诊系统薄弱,训练有素的保健工作者短日
167and limited emergency obstetric services和有限的紧急产科服务
168can further delay lifesaving care.可能会进一步拖延救生护理。
169The new global roadmap aims to address an innovation gap新的全球路线图旨在解决创新差距
170between the scale of the problem问题规模之间
171and the availability of medicines药品的供应情况
172to prevent or treat preeclampsia.预防或治疗前科。
173The roadmap aims to accelerate coordinated investment action路线图旨在加快协调投资行动
174to ensure that proven interventions确保行之有效的干预措施
175and future innovations reach the women and babies未来创新惠及妇女和婴儿
176who need them most.他们最需要他们。
177Finally, this Saturday, the 10th of October,最后,10月10日这个星期六,
178marks World Mental Health Day.纪念世界心理健康日。
179This year, our focus is on the lived experience今年我们的重点是生活经验
180of people with mental health conditions,患有精神疾病的人,
181especially those who have received institutional care.特别是接受机构照料的人。
182Often these people are left out of decisions这些人常常被置身事外
183about how mental health systems are designed and reformed.关于精神健康系统的设计和改革。
184Many are kept in psychiatric hospitals involuntarily许多人被非自愿地关进精神病院。
185for months, years, or even decades,几个月,几年,甚至几十年,
186isolating them from the outside world.把他们与外界隔绝
187This week, WHO will launch a practical guide本周,世卫组织将推出实用指南
188to support countries to shift away* 支持各国改变方向
189from institutionalized care towards person-centered care从机构护理到以人为中心的护理
190in communities that respects people's rights and choices.在尊重人民的权利和选择的社区。
191Christian, back to you.克里斯蒂安,回给你。
192Thank you very much, Dr. Tedros,非常感谢,特德罗斯博士
193and I see two hands here in the rooms.我看到两只手在这里的房间。
194We'll start with Ms. Petrieva, if you please.我们先从Petrieva女士开始 如果你不介意的话
195Yes, thank you for taking my question.是的,谢谢你接受我的问题。
196It's a question concerning the alleged plague in Russia.这是关于俄罗斯所谓的瘟疫的问题.
197You mentioned that there are some media reports你说过有些媒体报道
198of a second employee with pneumonia of undetermined cause.第二名患有不明原因肺炎的雇员。
199I would like to ask you to what extent我想问您,我在多大程度上
200these reports are credible,这些报告是可信的,
201and do you have other source of information您是否有其它信息来源
202concerning this second case?关于第二个案子?
203And one question also on that matter more globally,还有一个更全球性的问题
204did you ask, did WHO ask Russia to be able你问,WHO有没有要求俄罗斯能够
205to send a team in Russia in its courts在俄罗斯法院派出一个小组
206to help to investigate,协助调查,
207and did you receive more information from Russia你从俄国得到更多的情报吗?
208since yesterday around noon, early morning,从昨天中午开始,清晨,
209when you received something?当你收到什么?
210Thank you.谢谢
211Thank you very much, and we'll start with...非常感谢 我们从...
212Yeah, thank you very much.是的,非常感谢。
213So, yes, there's quite a lot of attention to this,所以,是的,有很多人关注这个,
214so let me start with what we know.所以,让我从我们所知道的开始。
215We are aware of reports of a potential case我们知道有报道说有一起潜在的案件
216of suspected pneumonic plague in Russia.俄罗斯疑似肺炎瘟疫
217We have reached out to our colleagues in Russia我们联系了俄罗斯的同事
218from the Ministry of Health to obtain further information从卫生部获得更多信息
219and what we call verification.和我们所谓的核查。
220So it's verification of the death,所以这是对死亡的核实
221but also verification from a media report但也从媒体报道中核实
222of this second case that has been mentioned,在所提到的第二个案件中,
223and this is an important step.这是一个重要的步骤。
224So we do reach out to them to ask very detailed questions所以,我们联系他们 问非常详细的问题
225about what tests were done,关于做了什么测试,
226the results of those laboratory tests,实验室测试结果,
227the specifics around that,这些细节,
228what further analysis is being done正在进行的进一步分析
229if the cause is not yet known,如果原因还不知道
230what contacts were put under quarantine or under follow-up,哪些联系人被隔离或跟踪,
231what did that involve,这涉及到什么?
232if the quarantine period is over, et cetera, et cetera.如果隔离期结束,等等,等等。
233So we don't have a full picture yet, as the DG has said.所以,我们还没有一个完整的图片,正如DG所说。
234What we have been told is that they had no case of plague我们被告知他们没有瘟疫
235registered in this area,* 登记在这个地区,
236and that no high-threat pathogens were detected.没有检测到高威胁病原体。
237So clearly, we would like more information很明显,我们需要更多的信息
238to understand which laboratory tests were conducted,了解进行了哪些实验室测试,
239which pathogens were evaluated,评估了哪些病原体,
240and if this individual didn't die from plague,如果这个人没有死于瘟疫
241then how did she die?那她怎么会死?
242I would, if I may, just ask for media,如果可以的话,我会问媒体
243please stop using this person's name and picture.请停止使用这个人的名字和图片。
244I see it in a lot of different media right now,我从很多不同的媒体上看到
245and we should respect everyone's privacy我们应该尊重每个人的隐私
246and patient privacy.和病人的隐私。
247It's just an ask.问而已.
248I know you follow the protocols there,我知道你遵守了协议
249but please, if I may ask that.但请,如果我可以问。
250So we don't have that full picture,所以,我们没有 完整的图片,
251and I think for us, having a full picture我想,对我们来说,一个完整的画面
252of what has been conducted by Russian authorities,俄罗斯当局的所作所为,
253and yes, there are different ways是的,有不同的办法
254that we verify information.我们核实信息。
255We reach out to our technical counterparts我们联系我们的技术人员
256in countries as well to cross-verify,在各国,以及交叉核查,
257but until we have that information,但直到我们得到情报
258it's hard for us to do a full risk assessment.我们很难做一个全面的风险评估。
259So we have reached out again, asking further questions.因此,我们再次接触,提出进一步的问题。
260We expect further answers from Russia.我们期待俄罗斯提供进一步的答复。
261We did get some reports back from them我们从他们那里得到了一些报告
262following the IHR verification request,根据《国际人权法》核查请求,
263but not yet everything has been provided to us.但不是一切已经提供给我们。
264Thank you, Agnes, looks like a follow-up.谢谢你,艾格尼丝,看起来像是后续
265Yes, and did you ask for sending a WHO team on the ground?是的,你有没有要求 派遣一个世卫组织的团队在现场?
266So through our, thank you, sorry,所以通过我们,谢谢,对不起,
267you asked the second question.你问了第二个问题。
268So we have offered support through our regional office所以我们通过我们的区域办事处提供了支持
269and our country office in different areas.和我们的国家办事处在不同地区。
270One is in infectious diseases, particularly on plague,一个是传染病,特别是瘟疫
271but we have people who have expertise但我们有专才
272in high-threat pathogens.在高威胁病原体。
273She was working at an anti-plague lab,她当时在防弹实验室工作
274and so we do know the type of materials所以我们知道材料的类型
275that she was working with.她当时在工作
276We've also offered support我们还提供了支持
277in laboratory biosafety and biosecurity,实验室生物安全和生物安保,
278because some of the initial media reports因为一些初步媒体报道
279suggested an incident at the lab.说明实验室发生了意外
280So we wanna follow up,所以我们想跟进
281we are following up on those two technical areas,我们正在跟踪这两个技术领域,
282and if that is requested from the Russian authorities,如果俄罗斯当局提出要求,
283of course, we will send people to support.当然,我们会派人支持。
284Thank you, next question goes to Jamie Keaton.谢谢,下一个问题给杰米・基顿
285Thank you, Dr. Van Kerkhoff.谢谢你,范克霍夫博士
286Jamie, Associated Press.杰米,美联社.
287Just to be clear on what you just said,为了澄清你刚才说的话
288you talked about an incident in the lab.你在实验室里谈了一起事件
289If you could kind of elaborate on that,如果你能详细解释一下
290what you know so far about that,目前为止你所知道的
291just to bounce off what you just said.你刚才说的话就是为了反弹
292But more broadly, just to be clear,但更广义地说,为了澄清
293to boil it down to a very simple question,把它归结为一个很简单的问题,
294is this, by your understanding,这是你所知道的,
295a typical respiratory viral infection,典型的呼吸道病毒感染,
296or is it pneumonic plague,还是肺炎瘟疫?
297or do you simply not know难道你们不知道吗?
298based on the information that you've received?根据你收到的信息?
299Your statement today calls on countries你今天的发言呼吁各国
300跟着IHR。
301Could Russia have been more transparent up to now俄国现在是否更透明
302and in the future?将来呢?
303And haven't we been here before in some ways?我们以前没来过这里吗?
304This recalls for a lot of people对很多人来说
305the situation with China and the COVID outbreak.中国局势与COVID爆发.
306What similarities, if any, are you seeing你看见什么相似之处了吗?
307between this situation and the one involving COVID in China?和中国的COVID有关吗?
308Looks like we're starting with Dr. Van Kerkhoff.看来我们从范克霍夫医生开始
309Yeah, I can start.是的,我可以开始。
310And we also have colleagues online我们也有同事在线
311from our Euro office related to IHR,从我们的欧洲办事处 有关IHR,
312so they could maybe mention on the timeline.他们也许可以在时间线上提及
313I mean, the simple answer, Jamie,我的意思是,简单的答案,杰米,
314is we don't know exactly how this person died.我们不知道这个人是怎么死的
315We know that she had pneumonia.我们知道她得了肺炎
316We know it was a fatal case.我们知道这是一个致命的案件。
317We understand that some laboratory tests have been done.我们知道,已经进行了一些实验室测试。
318They haven't found the causative agent, what we know.据我们所知 他们还没有找到致病剂
319And so this is why we need more information.这就是为什么我们需要更多的信息。
320So typically, when a lab will look,通常,当一个实验室会看,
321and this person worked in a high-threat lab,这个人在高威胁实验室工作
322so there are a lot of provisions in these labs所以这些实验室有很多东西
323related to biosafety, biosecurity.关于生物安全、生物安保。
324This individual would have had training,这个人应该受过训练
325would have had vaccinations本来可以接种疫苗的
326related to some of these pathogens.与其中一些病原体有关。
327This is the type of information这是信息的类型
328that we're seeking further information on.我们正在寻找进一步的信息。
329And unfortunately, there are people不幸的是,还有人
330that do die of pneumonia of what we say unknown cause,他们确实死于肺炎 我们所说的未知原因,
331but there are methods now in the lab that we can look at,但是实验室里有方法可以研究
332or they can look at to find out and determine或者他们可以看 找出并确定
333what was the causative agent,致病药是什么?
334whether it's through PCR testing是否通过PCR测试
335or whether it's through genetic sequencing or metagenomics.或者是通过基因测序或计量学
336There's a whole area of work on this.这件事有整个工作领域.
337So we work with our member states, including in Russia.因此,我们与我们的成员国合作,包括在俄罗斯。
338But if Russia needs support from other labs,但如果俄罗斯需要其他实验室的支持
339we are more than happy to make those connections.我们非常乐意建立这些联系。
340But there is a good global connection between labs,但实验室之间有着良好的全球联系,
341I will say, around support for this.我会说,围绕支持这一点。
342So if they ask us for technical support,所以如果他们要求我们提供技术支持
343we are more than happy to provide that.我们非常乐意提供这些。
344And your question around should more have been provided,你的问题应该更多
345I think the simple answer is always yes.我认为简单的答案是永远是的。
346And we need transparent and timely reporting我们需要透明和及时的报告
347from all of our member states.从我们所有成员国。
348It is really important not only for information sharing,这不仅对分享信息很重要,
349but for risk assessment.但用于风险评估。
350And then we alert the rest of the world,然后我们提醒世界其他地方,
351all of our member states and our IHR national focal points我们的所有成员国和国际人权社的国家协调中心
352through a system, which we did today.通过一个系统, 我们今天做了。
353We reported on this incident to all of our member states我们向所有成员国报告了这起事件
354and the NFP focal points.国家联络点。
355And then we will be publishing a DAWN,然后我们将出版一个DAWN,
356a disease outbreak news, which is public,一个疾病爆发新闻, 这是公开的,
357and plus, of course, having these.当然还有这些
358So yes, we do need more information.所以,我们确实需要更多的信息。
359And we're hoping that that will come in a timely way.我们希望,这将及时出现。
360I asked you a number of questions我问你几个问题
361just about the incident in the lab.只是关于实验室里的事件
362Can you, what do you know about that?你能知道吗?
363I know what you know from the media我知道你从媒体上知道的
364of a test tube breaking and exposure.试管断裂和暴露。
365But again, somebody working in a lab但还是有人在实验室工作
366in a high threat pathogen lab will be wearing PPE.在一个高危病原体实验室 将佩戴个人防护设备。
367So we will following up on what type of PPE,因此,我们将跟踪 什么样的个人防护设备,
368personal protective equipment, excuse me,个人防护设备,对不起,
369would be used, under which conditions,将使用,在何种条件下,
370what were they doing with these pathogens.他们用这些病原体做什么?
371So we have laboratory biosafety, biosecurity experts here.所以这里有实验室生物安全,生物安保专家。
372We work with a number of them around the world我们和世界各地很多组织合作
373to obtain further information,获得进一步资料,
374but I don't have details on what that might be.但我没有细节 可能是什么。
375Incident sounds like a scary word.事件听起来像一个可怕的词。
376I do know that, and I do know we are all reflecting on,我知道,我知道 我们都在思考,
377let's say, past events.比方说,过去的事件。
378We, as an organization, wanna make sure我们作为一个组织,想要确保
379that we are not overconfident in the information我们没有过度自信的信息
380that we have, that we are actively following up with Russia,我们有, 我们正在积极地跟俄罗斯采取后续行动,
381and that we don't have the full information yet.我们还没掌握全部信息
382Thank you.谢谢
383And I think we had the part of the IHR timeline,我认为我们有 部分IHR时间表,
384and we wanna go to Dr. Silvio Gimano我们要去找西尔维奥·吉马诺博士
385from the WHO Euro Office,卫生组织欧洲办事处,
386the Public Health Intelligence Alerts公共卫生情报警报
387and Response Operations.和反应行动。
388Silvio, over to you.西尔维奥,交给你了
389Yeah, good morning, good day, good afternoon, everyone.是的,早上好,早上好,下午好,每个人。
390Thank you for the question.谢谢你的问候
391So in terms of IHR, obviously,因此,在IHR方面,很明显,
392once we have these signals from the media,一旦我们收到媒体的信号
393we send the verification request,我们发送核查请求,
394as Maria mentioned, on the article 10.正如玛丽亚提到的,关于第10条。
395And when we received the answer from authorities,当我们收到当局的答复时
396it was written,这是写着,
397because we suspected from the media因为我们怀疑媒体
398it was a lab-acquired infection.是实验室传染的
399And the answer was it's a community-acquired答案是,这是一个社区获得的
400CD pneumonia of unknown meteorology.不明气象学的CD肺炎.
401So what we know is currently,所以我们知道的是,目前,
402it's negative for the pathogens have been tested.对病原体来说是阴性的
403It's in a staff member of the research facility,这是在研究设施的工作人员,
404but there is no,但是没有
405based on the text provided by Russian authorities,根据俄罗斯当局提供的案文,
406there is no causative link between两者之间没有因果关系
407is it professionally acquired or a coincidence.是专业获得的 还是巧合
408In terms of risk assessment,在风险评估方面,
409I think we need to emphasize it's an iterative process.我认为我们需要强调这是一个迭代的过程。
410As we gain more information,随着我们获得更多信息
411we need to do it repeatedly over and over again.我们需要反复地这样做。
412So in terms of should they have provided earlier,所以说,他们应该早点提供,
413obviously, the sooner somebody shares information,显然,谁早分享信息,
414the clearer the risk assessment风险评估越明确
415and the measures put in place.和已采取的措施。
416We are aware of issues to enforce IHR amendments.我们意识到执行《国际人权法》修正案的问题。
417And I think that's part of the reason我想这是原因之一
418why the IHR amendments process has been startedIHR修正案为何启动?
419and it became effective in September, 2025 last year.它于去年9月,2025年生效。
420Also in an attempt to improve the application of IHR也试图改进《国际人权法》的适用。
421in the best solidarity principle possible.以尽可能最好的团结原则。
422Thank you, and back to the room.谢谢,回房间去
423非常感谢 Silviu.
424And this was just because the name is not on the list for you.这仅仅是因为名字不在你的名单上。
425This was Dr. Silviu Chubanu, C-I-O-B-A-N-U这是西尔维乌·丘巴努博士,C -I -O 吴
426from the WHO Euro Public Health Intelligence Alerts世界卫生组织欧洲公共卫生情报警报
427and Response Operations.和反应行动。
428Thank you.谢谢
429Next question goes online and that's for Jen Rigby下一个问题上线了 这是给Jen Rigby的
430from Reuters, Jen, please go ahead.路透社的Jen 请继续
431Hello, thanks for taking my question.你好 谢谢你接我的问题
432I just wanted to ask,我只是想问,
433we can't find a credible media report of a second case.我们找不到可信的媒体报道 第二起案件。
434Can you tell us where that report was published你能告诉我们那份报告是在哪里发表的吗?
435or points us to it?还是指给我们看?
436And if not, why did you raise that second case?如果不是,你为什么要提起第二个案子?
437Have you got any other information about it?你有其他信息吗?
438Potential second case, right?潜在的第二个案件,对不对?
439That's been reported.此事已报.
440And then just quick check,然后快速检查,
441you said you can't do a full risk assessment at the moment你说你目前不能做全面的风险评估
442because you don't have the full information.因为你没有完整的信息。
443Is that a change from when you said yesterday和昨天你说的不一样吗
444the threat so far seems low based on what you know?根据你所知道的,到目前为止威胁似乎不大?
445Has anything changed or are you kind of saying什么都变了,或者你说
446the same thing still?还是一样吗?
447Thank you.谢谢
448Dr.医生
449Von Cochran, please.冯科克伦,请。
450Yeah, thank you.谢谢
451So we can send the link to the media report这样我们就可以发送链接 与媒体报道
452that we had seen.我们见过的
453And again, this is something that we at WHO do all the time.再说一遍,这是我们卫生组织经常做的事情。
454We are evaluating tens of thousands of signals.我们正在评估数以万计的信号。
455Some of these come from media,有些来自媒体,
456some of these come from other sources其中一些来自其他来源
457and it is important for us to verify that.这一点对我们来说很重要。
458So we have sent that link to our colleagues in Russia因此,我们把这个链接发给了俄罗斯的同事
459to verify this potential second case.以核实这潜在的第二个案件。
460So we can share that link.因此,我们可以分享这种联系。
461We'll have to do that in the chat.我们不得不在谈话中做到这一点。
462With regard to the risk assessment,关于风险评估,
463so yes, we have said and DG has said所以,是的,我们已经说, 和DG说
464we don't have the complete picture我们没有完整的画面
465to do a full risk assessment.进行全面的风险评估。
466We always do an initial risk assessment.我们总是进行初步风险评估。
467We're doing, again, risk assessments all the time我们一直在做风险评估
468based on the information that we have.根据我们掌握的信息
469It will be updated regularly将定期更新
470as more information becomes available.随着获得更多信息。
471Maybe this is a good opportunity也许这是个好机会
472just to mention plague in general说到瘟疫
473and what we know about plague.以及我们对瘟疫的了解
474There are thousands of cases of suspected plague every year每年有数千例疑似瘟疫病例
475that happen around the world.这发生在世界各地。
476There's bubonic plague and there's pneumonic plague.有脓血瘟疫,有脓血瘟疫.
477Reporting on plague changed during the period of COVID关于鼠疫在COVID期间变化的报告
478because not a lot of people were testing for this.因为很少有人在测试这个
479And so we've actually just recently published我们最近才出版
480an article on plague cases since 2019.关于2019年以来鼠疫病例的文章.
481And since 2019 to 2025, 10 countries reported自2019年至2025年,有10个国家报告
482almost 4,000 suspected human plague cases近4 000例疑似人类瘟疫病例
483and 423 deaths.还有423人死亡
484So I just wanna contextualize this.所以,我只是想 的背景化这一点。
485Central Asia has the largest number of the foci,中亚拥有最多的核心,
486the how people get infected.人们是如何被感染的
487So these small rodents, they get infected所以这些小啮齿动物会感染
488and there's sometimes some small sporadic outbreaks.有时会出现一些小的零星爆发.
489So plague is bacteria, it's caused by a bacteria.所以瘟疫是细菌,是由细菌引起的.
490There are antibiotics that can treat against this.有抗生素可以抗药
491So if anyone does have an infection with plague,所以如果有人感染了瘟疫的话
492it can be treated.可以治疗。
493So obviously early clinical care,所以很明显的早期临床治疗,
494good awareness around this is really important,正确认识这一点真的很重要,
495but I do kinda wanna contextualize this.但我确实想把事情搞好
496When we do a risk assessment,当我们做风险评估时
497we will look at the information that we have about the event,我们将研究我们掌握的关于这次事件的信息,
498we will also put it in context about what we know我们还会把它放在我们所了解的背景中
499about the pathogen itself.关于病原体本身。
500I will go back to saying right now,我现在就回去说
501we don't know the causative agent of how this woman died我们不知道这个女人是怎么死的
502and that's really what we want to better understand.而这正是我们想要更好的理解。
503Authorities in Russia did put approximately 200 people俄罗斯当局确实安置了大约200人
504in quarantine or close follow-up.隔离或密切跟踪。
505We are following up on the details related to that.我们正在就这方面的细节采取后续行动。
506Who were these individuals?这些人是谁?
507What types of exposures may they have had?他们有什么样的接触?
508Were they health workers, et cetera?他们是卫生工作者吗?
509What types of tests were done?进行了哪些类型的测试?
510So all of that information helps us understand the risk,所以所有的信息 帮助我们理解风险,
511locally, the risk at a national level within Russia,当地,俄罗斯国内国家一级的风险,
512a regional level and also global.(a) 区域一级和全球一级。
513So that's why we don't have a complete risk assessment done,所以我们没有做完整的风险评估
514but we will always be doing initial risk assessments但我们将永远进行初步风险评估
515and we'll update you when those are conducted again.等他们再做一遍 我们再给你更新
516Thank you very much.谢谢
517Maria, we first want to go to Dr. Abdi Mahmood.玛利亚,我们先去找阿卜迪·马哈茂德医生
518Thanks for just building on what Maria said on how WHO does.谢谢你在玛丽亚所说的话的基础上 继续讲讲卫生组织的工作
519It is event-based surveillance.这是基于事件的监控。
520On a daily basis, we go through all media每天,我们通过所有媒体
521using our epidemic intelligence or open sources,利用我们的疫情情报或公开来源,
522our Berlin Hub has developed a good system using AI.我们的柏林中心 开发了一个良好的系统 使用AI。
523So we can pick almost every language, all news articles,所以我们可以选择几乎所有的语言, 所有的新闻报道,
524even from regional to different.甚至从区域到不同的。
525So we did pick up those signals, what we call a signal.所以,我们得到了这些信号, 我们称之为信号。
526So from there, we go through a system of triangulation.因此,从那里,我们通过一个三角体系。
527Is this reliable?这可靠吗?
528Does it support the ongoing event?它是否支持正在进行的活动?
529So there's a systematic team who does that on a daily basis.因此,有一个系统化的团队每天这样做。
530We have a 24-hour duty, 24-7-hour duty officer我们有24小时值班 24-7小时值班
531who does that.谁干的?
532So we pick this event.所以我们选择这个活动。
533Maybe the site is no longer active.也许这个网站已经不活跃了.
534We don't know that, but we do keep the screenshot我们不知道,但我们确实保留了截图
535of all that, how we do it.所有这一切,我们如何做到这一点。
536And then from there, we go to triage, as Sylvia said.然后,从那里,我们去分身, 正如西尔维娅说。
537And if we see it's credible,如果我们看到它是可信的,
538based on the triangulation of the data,根据数据的三角测量,
539we go to member state to verify that event.我们到成员国去核实这件事
540So there's a rigorous science-based evidence.因此有严格的科学证据.
541And we don't discard whether the news article is worthy.我们不会放弃新闻文章是否值得
542We don't pass that judgment.我们没有通过判断。
543As long as it's happening in a context of an outbreak,只要是在爆发的情况下发生的
544we do pick that, and then we'll do the necessary steps.我们这样做,然后我们做 必要的步骤。
545So I just wanted to put that,所以我只想说,
546the WHO picked an article in Russia,世卫组织在俄罗斯选了一篇文章,
547and we use our regional offices to do that.我们利用我们的区域办事处这样做。
548So I just wanted to put that.所以我只想说
549It's not that WHO picked something out of random.并不是WHO从随机抽出的东西。
550Through the system established,通过建立的制度,
551EIOs和Opalin已经做到了
552throughout all the language,所有语言,
553whether it's Russian, Chinese, English,无论是俄语,中文,英语,
554or even all local languages.甚至所有当地语言。
555We do have a robust system able to build我们确实有一个强大的系统 能够建立
556on top of what's officially reported.在官方报道之外
557We didn't need to do that for Kenya,我们不需要这样做 对于肯尼亚,
558because Kenya immediately reported.因为肯尼亚立即报告。
559But if Kenya didn't report,但如果肯尼亚不报告
560we'll have picked it through media or from social media.我们会通过媒体或社交媒体来挑选
561So I just wanted to clarify the process we use我只是想澄清一下我们使用的程序
562in picking up signals.在接收信号。
563Thanks a lot for that really important clarification.非常感谢这一非常重要的澄清。
564Next question also online,下个问题也在网上,
565这是Priti Patnaik 来自日内瓦健康档案,请。
566Priti.普丽蒂
567Good evening.边
568Thanks for taking my question.谢谢你接我的问题。
569I had a few questions, actually.其实我有几个问题
570One is if you can tell us a little more如果你能多告诉我们一点
571about the lab in Siberia.关于西伯利亚的实验室
572How would we understand what grade of lab was it?我们怎么知道实验室的级别是多少?
573Did they have sufficient biosafety,他们有足够的生物安全,
574biosecurity measures by virtue of their grade?生物安保措施的等级?
575And the second is the communication第二个是交流
576that you received from Russia.你从俄罗斯得到的。
577Was it under formal IHR channels, the notification,是在IHR的正式渠道,通知,
578or was it in response to your query?还是回应你的询问?
579How would we understand the nature我们如何理解大自然
580of the response from Russia?俄罗斯的答复?
581And finally, on the timeline,最后,在时间线上,
582we understand that under the IHR,我们知道,根据《国际人权法》,
583countries are obliged to respond within 24 hours.各国必须在24小时内作出答复。
584So I'm just trying to understand所以,我只是试图理解
585whether they did respond within 24 hours,他们是否在24小时内回应,
586or if you're still seeking information如果你还在寻找信息
587with respect to how it is expected under the IHR.关于如何根据《国际人权法》进行预期。
588Thanks so much.非常感谢
589Yeah, thanks for that.是啊,谢谢你。
590And I guess we're coming back to Dr. Silvio我想我们回Silvio医生那里了
591on the IHR procedures.《国际人权法》的程序。
592Thank you for the question.谢谢你的问候
593In the IHR, we have Annex 2,《国际卫生条例》有附件2。
594which is a decision-making instrument helping countries,这是帮助各国的决策工具,
595helping the IHR state parties make a decision帮助《国际人权公约》缔约国作出决定
596whether to notify WHO about anything or not.是否将任何事情通知卫生组织。
597There are basically four questions or key questions.基本上有四个问题或关键问题。
598How severe is the public health impact?公共卫生的影响有多严重?
599Is it unusual and unexpected?不寻常和意外吗?
600Does it pose a risk of international spread?它是否构成国际扩散的风险?
601And does it pose a risk of trade or travel restrictions?这是否构成贸易或旅行限制的风险?
602There are a few notifiable disease by default,有一些可报告疾病 默认,
603but we will not talk about those.但我们不会谈论这些。
604So each member state, when facing a situation like this,所以,每个成员国, 当面对这样的情况,
605would usually use this Annex 2,通常使用本附件2,
606will go through the questions and depending on the answers,将回答问题,并视答案而定,
607they will be advised to notify or consult WHO or not.他们将被告知或不通知卫生组织。
608To answer the question itself,为了回答这个问题
609no, it was not a notification on the Article 6.不,这不是关于第6条的通知。
610It was a reply to a verification request on the Article 10.这是对关于第十条的核查要求的答复。
611In terms of timeline, I think yes, IHR is very explicit就时间而言,我想是的,IHR非常明确
612that a response is expected within 24 hours.24小时内得到答复。
613And then after that, state parties may require之后,缔约国可能要求
614a little bit of extra time一点点额外的时间
615to collect all the additional information.收集所有补充资料。
616So this is in a nutshell.简言之,这是个问题。
617I will defer the answer on the lab biosafety level我将推迟到实验室生物安全层面再回答
618to other colleagues.给其他同事的
619I know only what is in the public domain about the lab.我只知道什么是公共领域 关于实验室。
620Over.完毕
621Thanks very much, Silvio, and for the lab question on Maria.非常感谢 Silvio 还有玛利亚的实验室问题
622Yeah, no, and also just a supplement that, you know,是啊,不,还有一个补充,你知道,
623when the information is provided through IHR在通过《国际人权法》提供信息时
624and answering the question,回答问题,
625we always go back and ask additional questions.我们总是回去问更多的问题
626So that is something that is quite typical for us.这对我们来说是非常典型的。
627And in this case, this case is no different.而在此例中,此例无异.
628So receiving information coming from Russia about the case,收到俄罗斯提供的关于这个案子的情报
629we've gone back with further questions.我们又问了几个问题
630And that will continue until we get the answers直到我们得到答案为止
631that we actually need to, one, understand the situation,我们实际上需要, 第一,了解情况,
632and two, to understand the risk that it poses,二,了解它带来的风险,
633not only for Russia, but for everyone else.不仅为俄罗斯,也为其他人。
634So that's important for us to follow up.所以,这对我们来说很重要 后续。
635And IHR is meant for that.IHR就是为了这个
636IHR is built for that.《国际人权法》就是为此而建的。
637Those are the international health regulations这些是国际卫生条例
638that member states and states parties have agreed to.成员国和缔约国已经同意。
639In terms of the lab itself,就实验室本身而言,
640we do a lot of work with labs around the world,我们和世界各地的实验室合作很多
641particularly as it relates to laboratory biosafety特别是因为它与实验室生物安全有关
642and biosecurity.生物安保。
643We have manuals for how these labs should be operating.我们有这些实验室应该如何运行的手册。
644It depends on the nature of what the lab does,这取决于实验室的工作性质,
645which pathogens they are working with,他们所合作的病原体,
646what type of methods that they are using within the labs.他们正在实验室里使用什么样的方法。
647We used to call these biosafety level two, three, four,我们曾称这些生物安全等级为二、三、四级
648and we wanna make sure我们想要确保
649that the right provisions are in place.规定已经到位。
650Many of these labs also are evaluated by the governments其中许多实验室也得到政府的评估。
651where they are housed, where they reside,他们居住的地方,
652to make sure that they are compliant with the regulations,确保他们遵守条例,
653with the laws associated with working in those countries与在这些国家工作有关的法律
654and working with those pathogens.与这些病原体合作。
655I'm gonna defer to my colleague,我要服从我的同事,
656and I'm gonna have to get back to you perhaps我可能得回你电话
657on some of the specifics of this lab itself,关于一些细节 这个实验室本身,
658but I can tell you that we do work with labs但我可以告诉你 我们确实在实验室工作
659to ensure proper biosafety, biosecurity,确保适当的生物安全、生物安保、
660but it is up to the country and the lab itself但是这取决于国家和实验室本身
661to ensure that is being carried out.确保这项工作得到落实。
662If there was a lab incident in this lab,如果这个实验室发生实验室事件
663there are procedures that must be followed有一些程序必须遵循
664in terms of the assessment that they do in the lab.在实验室进行的评估方面
665There would be post-exposure prophylaxis, for example,例如,接触后预防。
666for this individual, they would probably run tests.对于这个个人, 他们可能会进行测试。
667So there's more to come as it relates所以还有更多事情要处理
668to what actually happened there, if anything,到底发生了什么,如果有什么,
669but we wanna make sure that I wanna make sure但我们想确定 我想确定
670we have the right information before we share that with you,在跟你分享之前 我们有正确的信息
671and I don't have that full picture yet.我还没有那张完整的照片
672Thank you very much, both.非常感谢,两个都。
673下一个问题来自彭博的Naomi Kresge。
674Naomi, please go ahead.娜奥米 请继续
675Hi, thanks for taking my question.嗨 谢谢你接我的问题
676I wanted to follow up again just on this question我想再次跟进这个问题
677of whether yesterday's assessment of low riskB. 关于昨天对低风险的评估
678is still in place.仍在执行。
679Is that still the case or has a risk,那还是这样还是有风险的
680are you just not able to say right now what the risk is?你现在不能说出风险是什么吗?
681And then second, regarding the 200 people第二,关于200人
682who were put in quarantine or close follow-up,被隔离或密切跟踪,
683the statement this morning, I think,我认为,今天上午的发言,
684said that this medical assessment had been completed.他说,这项医疗评估已经完成。
685So does that mean that the people这是否意味着人民
686are no longer in quarantine,不再被隔离
687or can you give us any more information或者你可以给我们更多的信息
688about where those people are now关于这些人现在在哪里
689and what their status is?他们的状况如何?
690Thanks.谢谢
691Right, thank you very much.好的,非常感谢
692Where should we start with Dr. Maria Van Gogh again?我们该从哪里开始?
693I can start, and if others want to supplement,我可以开始,如果其他人想要补充,
694please do come in.请进
695So I'll just reiterate on,所以我重申,
696let me start with the second part of your question让我从你问题的第二部分开始
697with regards to the contacts that are in quarantine关于隔离接触
698or were in quarantine.或被隔离。
699This is a specific question这是一个具体问题
700that we have followed up with Russia.我们已跟随俄罗斯
701Who are these approximately 200 contacts?这大约200个联系人是谁?
702For example, were they health workers?例如,他们是卫生工作者吗?
703Are they occupational exposure?他们是职业接触吗?
704Are they friends and family?他们是朋友和家人吗?
705Who are these individuals?这些人是谁?
706What is the nature of the quarantine隔离的性质是什么?
707or the follow-up that they have had?还是他们已经采取了后续行动?
708What types of tests have been done?进行了哪些类型的测试?
709And is the period actually complete?期限真的结束了吗?
710We don't have the full timeline of the symptom onset我们没有症状发作的全部时间
711of the woman who died.以牺牲的女人发誓。
712We do also know there are other pathogens我们也知道还有其他病原体
713that are circulating from some of the reports从一些报告中分发的报告
714that we had seen.我们见过的
715We know COVID-19 is there.我们知道COVID-19在那里。
716We know rhinovirus is there.我们知道有犀牛病毒
717So we need more information about who was in quarantine,所以我们需要更多关于谁被隔离的信息
718where they were, where they are, and what the status,他们在哪里 他们在哪里 地位如何
719what their health status actually is.他们的健康状况是怎样的
720They did report to us that none of the contacts他们确实向我们报告 没有联系人
721have developed symptoms,已经出现症状,
722and this is something we are asking这是我们在问
723for their information about.他们的资讯。
724So unfortunately, that's what I can tell you很不幸,我可以告诉你
725about that at the moment.关于现在。
726In terms of the risk, as I mentioned,关于风险,正如我所提到的,
727we've done an initial risk assessment.我们做了初步风险评估
728We will always do this,我们将永远这样做,
729and what was stated yesterday was what we said initially.昨天说的话是我们最初说的话。
730I also want to clarify,我也想澄清一下,
731and Abdi, you might want to comment about this as well.还有阿卜迪,你可能也想评论一下
732When we do risk assessments,当我们做风险评估时
733we look at different populations.我们看不同的人群。
734Risk assessments for the setting,设定的风险评估,
735for individuals who are exposed接触者
736to whatever pathogen we're talking about.我们谈论的病原体。
737We do risk assessments and make judgments,我们做风险评估和判断
738initial judgments related to risk for the general public.初步判决涉及公众的风险。
739And here, when we're talking about the general public在这里,当我们谈论 大众
740and we look at the country, the region, the globe,我们看看国家,区域,全球,
741certainly this is a situation where we're not,当然,这是 我们没有的情况,
742we don't have any evidence我们没有任何证据
743to suggest something that's different.提出不同的东西。
744However, we don't have the full information.然而,我们没有掌握全部信息.
745So that's why I'm trying to be cautious所以我才要谨慎
746about when we say we haven't done a complete risk assessment关于当我们说 我们还没有做一个完整的风险评估
747because we don't have all the information.因为我们没有所有的信息。
748All right, thank you very much.好吧,非常感谢。
749Next question, as I see none in the room.下一个问题,我看到房间里没有。
750Oh, sorry, Abdi, you were hiding behind.哦,对不起,阿布迪,你躲在后面。
751No, just building on what Maria said.不,只是根据玛丽亚的话。
752The initial risk assessment was based,初步风险评估的依据是:
753the information we got this was,我们得到的信息是,
754引文-引文使用过时参数coauthors (帮助) Mnemonic 瘟疫.
755And from a WHO, later on when we got the result,从一个世卫组织, 稍后当我们得到结果,
756we don't have enough information我们没有足够的信息
757to do the risk assessment for further spread, global risk.(c) 对进一步蔓延的全球风险进行风险评估。
758So there's a clear criteria.所以有明确的标准.
759So our initial risk assessment was based所以我们最初的风险评估是建立在
760on, quote-unquote, mnemonic plague,上,引文未引用, 记忆性瘟疫,
761which is well-known,这是众所周知的,
762and we have done a lot of risk assessment.我们做了许多风险评估。
763We had a large outbreak of mnemonic plague in Madagascar,我们在马达加斯加爆发了大规模脑瘤
764and it's endemic, it's a disease we know.它是地方性的,这是我们知道的疾病。
765But getting the update from there,但从那里得到最新消息
766we don't have enough information我们没有足够的信息
767to do the risk assessment.进行风险评估。
768So the two statements are not contradictory.因此这两个说法并不矛盾.
769It was based on the initial assessment.其依据是初步评估。
770Current assessment, WHO,目前的评估,卫生组织,
771we don't have enough information我们没有足够的信息
772to do a risk assessment.进行风险评估。
773About what, which pathogen are we dealing with?我们处理的是哪种病原体?
774We talk about international spread,我们谈论国际传播,
775risk to human health.危害人类健康。
776All the aspects of, and the likelihood of that其所有方面和可能性
777has to be specific for that pathogen.必须针对病原体
778So until we get more information,所以,直到我们得到更多的信息,
779we cannot do a risk assessment.我们不能进行风险评估。
780Thank you for a very important clarification.谢谢你做了非常重要的澄清。
781Now we have a question in the room.现在我们有一个问题在房间里。
782(原始内容存档于2018-07-21). Agnes Pereault, AFP.
783Yes, a follow-up on something that you have mentioned是的,你提到的事情的后续
784at some point, you say that Russia said有一天 你说俄罗斯说
785it's a community-acquired disease, pneumonia.这是社区传染的疾病,肺炎
786Could you explain what does it mean?你能解释这是什么意思吗?
787And does it mean that this person这是否意味着这个人
788has been contaminated by community people outside?被外面的社区污染了吗?
789And does that mean that there could be这是否意味着有可能
790some kind of epidemic there?那里有传染病吗?
791What does it mean?这是什么意思?
792Thank you.谢谢
793Yeah, thank you.谢谢
794And then I will actually ask that we go to our colleagues然后我会要求我们去找我们的同事
795in Europe as well to talk about在欧洲也谈
796sort of the community-acquired pneumonia,某种社区肺炎,
797particularly in the region.特别是在本区域。
798But yes, I mean, indeed, we don't understand但是是的,我的意思是,确实,我们不明白
799how she was infected.她是如何被感染的。
800So the initial reports were potentially a lab exposure,所以,初步报告 可能是实验室暴露,
801and of course, because she worked at an anti-plague lab,当然,因为她在一个反普拉格实验室工作,
802circumstantially, it sounds quite,顺便说一句 听起来挺不错的
803that that could be a potential source of her exposure.这可能是她接触的可能来源。
804But yes, people have pneumonia from a lot但没错 很多人都有肺炎
805of different types of pathogens,不同类型的病原体,
806whether they're viruses or whether they're bacteria不管是病毒还是细菌
807that naturally circulate around.自然地循环
808We're talking about quite a remote area in Russia,我们说的是俄罗斯相当遥远的地区
809in Siberia, we do know that there are other pathogens在西伯利亚 我们知道还有其他病原体
810circulating, COVID-19, rhinovirus were two循环 COVID-19 犀牛病毒是两个
811that were reported, but of course,但当然
812there are other types of pathogens.还有其他类型的病原体。
813So community-acquired, yes, would mean outside of the lab.因此,社区获得,是的, 意味着实验室之外。
814But again, what we wanna know when someone has died,但是,我们想知道 当有人死了,
815and particularly in this case,特别是在这种情况下,
816how this person, what she was infected with, number one.这个人是怎么被感染的 第一
817And secondly, once we know that, how was she infected?第二,一旦我们知道, 她是如何感染的?
818And importantly, what the country was doing to follow up.重要的是,国家正在做什么来跟进。
819So in this case, they identified 200 contacts to follow up.因此,在这种情况下,他们确定了200个联系人来跟进.
820And I think that's really important,我觉得这很重要
821because from a risk point of view,因为从风险的角度来看
822and from a public health point of view,从公共卫生的角度来看,
823you would want to identify.你会想识别。
824And what they initially suspected was pneumonic plague,他们最初怀疑的是肺炎瘟疫
825and that's what we had heard about as well.这也是我们听说的
826If that is ruled out, they say that that is ruled out,如果这被排除, 他们说这被排除,
827what did she actually die from?她到底从哪里死的?
828So I'm not sure if colleagues in Euro wanna come in,我不确定欧洲同事是否想进来
829particularly on the community-acquired pneumonia.特别是社区感染的肺炎
830Yeah, let's look at colleagues,是啊,让我们看看同事,
831maybe Dr. Ihu, appear in it.也许伊胡博士,出现在里面。
832Thank you, Maria.谢谢你,玛丽亚。
833No, nothing to add from that perspective.不,没有从这个角度补充。
834That's exactly the parameters这正是参数
835The community-acquired pneumonia means,社区获得的肺炎意味着,
836according to the information from the Russian Federation,根据俄罗斯联邦提供的资料,
837is that they believe that it's not coming from the lab.他们相信不是从实验室来的
838And that's the clear pathogens that caused the pneumonia.这就是引起肺炎的明显病原体.
839This information we're still awaiting to receive我们还在等待得到的情报
840in order to do better risk assessment进行更好的风险评估
841and clear risk assessment based on the more factual和基于事实的清晰风险评估
842information based on the cause of the death of a case根据案件死因提供的资料
843that was reported first in public media.这首先在公共媒体上报道。
844And then we follow up through the IHR channels.然后我们通过IHR渠道跟进.
845Over.完毕
846Thank you very much, Dr. Perinitz for this input.非常感谢你 佩里尼茨博士的这个投入。
847Next question is now for Helen Branswell from STAT.下一个问题现在给来自STAT的海伦·布兰斯韦尔.
848Helen, please go ahead.海伦,请继续。
849Hi, thank you.谢谢
850I have a couple of questions.我有几个问题
851Firstly, I'd like to follow up on Jen Rigby's question首先,我想跟进Jen Rigby的问题
852earlier when she asked about why WHO,早些时候,当她问为什么世卫组织,
853why the director general mentioned the second possible局长为什么提到第二个可能
854case of pneumonia in his opening remarks.肺炎病例 在他的开幕词。
855There's been discussion about all the going through Intel有人讨论过通过英特尔的一切
856that WHO does on a daily basis.卫生组织每天都这样做。
857Are we to conclude from the fact that this was even raised我们是不是要从这个事实得出结论:
858that you think the source might be credible?你觉得线人可信吗?
859And I will have questions for Bola if I could after.如果可以的话 我会问波拉问题
860All right, then let's start with Dr. Bankakov.好吧,那就从班卡科夫博士开始吧
861Hi, Helen.嗨,海伦。
862Oh, please.哦,请。
863So on the second case, I think Maria had said it earlier.第二件案子 我想Maria早说过
864This is a media report.这是媒体报道。
865And based on the COVID lessons, as you know,根据COVID的教训,你知道,
866in addition to the formal reporting,除正式报告外,
867we assess any reporting from the community,我们评估任何来自社区的报告,
868whether it's social media, regular media,不管是社交媒体还是普通媒体
869or other media outlets.或其他媒体。
870So we have actually received this information因此,我们得到了这个信息
871from two media outlets.来自两个媒体。
872One of them is, I think, a Russian one.我想其中一个是俄罗斯的
873So asking a question, we asked a question.所以问一个问题,我们问了一个问题。
874We asked Russia to respond to that.我们请俄罗斯对此作出回应。
875So we're just sharing that there is a second case reported所以,我们只是分享, 有第二个案件报告
876and we have asked Russia to respond to this.我们要求俄罗斯对此作出回应。
877I think this is a complete cycle我觉得这是个完整的循环
878and we're waiting for an answer我们正在等待一个答案
879because any reporting that comes, we cannot ignore it.因为任何报告,我们都不能忽视它。
880And credibility of the media, it's not our mandate to check.媒体的可信度 并不是我们的任务
881We don't have any mandate, actually,我们没有任何授权,其实,
882to see whether this media is credible or not.以查看该媒体是否可信。
883We just take the information.我们只是把信息。
884We're not making any judgments.我们没有做任何判断。
885We share it with the relevant authorities.我们与有关当局分享。
886We ask for clarification because we got it from two outlets,我们要求澄清 因为我们从两个渠道得到了它,
887including a local one.包括一个本地的。
888So we're waiting for the response.所以我们在等待回应
889So this is something that I think所以这是我想的东西
890should be done transparently.应当透明地进行。
891And that's why I have also included it所以我也把书写进去了
892in my statement earlier在我早些时候的发言中
893and, again, in my statement during this presser.并再次在本次记者会上发言。
894And so I hope we will get an answer to that formally.所以我希望我们能正式回答这个问题。
895But informally, what we had so far is that Russia had denied但非正式地说,我们至今为止所知道的 是俄罗斯否认
896but, of course, we are waiting for a formal response但是,当然,我们正在等待一个正式的答复
897to what happened, the second case being reported发生什么了,第二起案件被报告
898from the media.从媒体。
899Thanks so much.非常感谢
900And I think we have a second question from Helen on Ebola.我想我们还有另一个问题来自海伦 关于埃博拉。
901Helen, please go ahead.海伦,请继续。
902Yes, thank you very much, Dr. Tedros.是的,非常感谢,特德罗斯博士。
903I'm wondering about the case that was the man in Kenya.我想知道肯尼亚那个男人的案子
904He traveled through Uganda.他穿越乌干达。
905There's been no discussion about how many potential people没有讨论过有多少人有潜力
906were possibly in contact with him in Uganda.可能与他在乌干达有联系。
907Can you give us some information about that?你能给我们一些信息吗?
908And also the reporting out of Kenya suggested肯尼亚的报告也建议
909he had been sick for a month.他病了一个月了
910Isn't that a considerably long time to have Ebola患埃博拉不是很久了吗?
911and not be in a treatment facility?而不是在治疗设施里?
912Thank you.谢谢
913Thank you very much.谢谢
914Now we have a couple of colleagues online.现在我们在网上有几位同事。
915I think we wanna go with Dr. Catherine Smallwood,我想我们想和凯瑟琳·斯莫伍德博士一起去
916our Ebola response incident manager我们的埃博拉应对事件管理员
917because it's a bit overarching.因为它有点全面。
918Katie, I think you're connected now.凯蒂,我觉得你现在有联系了
919Please go ahead.请进
920Yeah, thanks, Christian.谢谢 克里斯蒂安
921Maybe other colleagues would like to come in也许其他同事想进来
922on the Uganda piece.在乌干达的那块。
923Just, I'm in DRC.只是,我在刚果民主共和国。
924We've been working with the national authorities我们一直与国家当局合作
925and the provincial authorities to understand和省当局的理解
926where the individual traveled旅行地点
927and where he may have left DRC,以及他离开刚果民主共和国的地方,
928which we understand to be Beni to enter Uganda我们理解是贝尼进入乌干达
929and then move all the way through to Nairobi.然后一直搬到内罗毕
930So the investigations are ongoing at the moment.因此,调查目前仍在进行中。
931We're also understanding who he was in contact with,我们还知道他和谁有联系
932which health facilities he may have presented to他可能向卫生机构提供的
933during his travel and when he was there.在旅行和他在那里的时候
934So we're looking at that information所以我们在看这个信息
935based on the information that we've received根据我们收到的信息
936from our colleagues in Kenya.我们在肯尼亚的同事。
937So let me stop there.因此,让我停下来。
938Thank you, and then we go to Dr. Abdul Mahmood.谢谢 然后我们去找阿卜杜勒·马哈茂德医生
939Thanks, Helen.谢谢 海伦
940In building on Katie's point,根据凯蒂的观点
941there's a detailed investigation going on有详细的调查正在进行中
942to build a picture to understand how the travel right now,画一幅画来理解现在的旅程
943we have a detailed information within Kenya我们在肯尼亚有详细的资料
944because the relatives are there因为他们的亲戚在那里,
945and we will be understanding more.我们将会更加理解。
946So through DRC, Uganda, and Kenya,通过刚果民主共和国、乌干达和肯尼亚,
947we are conducting a detailed investigation我们正在详细调查
948where he was, where he traveled,他在那里, 他旅行,
949when he was sick.当他生病的时候
950Did he go to a health facility with another problem他有没有去一个医疗机构 又一个问题
951and he got infected in Ebola?他感染了埃博拉病毒吗?
952All that information are still going on.所有这些信息仍在继续。
953And once we have detailed information, we'll publish.一旦我们掌握了详细的信息,我们就会公布。
954So it's the early phase.所以这是早期。
955And both three countries are collaborating三个国家都在合作
956through IHR network.通过IHR网络.
957So I just wanted to reassure that the risk所以,我只是想保证 风险
958is taken everywhere.到处都有
959And the timely reporting from Kenya is welcome欢迎肯尼亚及时提交报告
960and as Dr. Tedros mentioned.正如特德罗斯博士提到的
961And I wanna build again to what we have seen in Uganda我想重新建立 在乌干达看到的东西
962and the outbreak there.和那里的爆发。
963Almost all the 20 confirmed cases in Uganda,乌干达几乎所有20例确诊病例
96415 of them have been people ill seeking healthcare.其中15人因寻求保健而生病。
965And the Kenya case also shows clearly.肯尼亚的案例也清楚地表明了这一点。
966So what's driving is not the travel restriction开的不是旅行限制
967being put in DRC on Uganda乌干达的刚果民主共和国
968or even Kenya will be unproductive.甚至肯尼亚也会没有成果。
969It's not a risk appropriate.这不适宜冒险
970So these are people who are not feeling well所以这些是不舒服的人
971seeking healthcare either from Kampala or Nairobi从坎帕拉或内罗毕寻求医疗保健
972because those are the two places with the high facility.因为这些是两个有高设施的地方。
973So in summary, the detailed investigation is going on.简而言之 详细调查正在进行中
974And once we have a clear, we'll publish it一旦我们明白,我们会公布
975in our disease outbreak news.在我们的疾病爆发新闻。
976Thank you Dr. Mahmoud.谢谢你 马哈茂德博士
977Now just looking at the time,现在看看时间,
978we have about 10 more minutes,我们还有十分钟
979but we wanna give everybody credit here.但是我们想给这里的所有人以信用。
980So I still have three questions left plus two follow ups.所以我还有三个问题 加上两个后续问题
981So let's see that we get this through.因此,让我们来看看,我们得到了这一点。
982Next is Carrie Cullinan from HPW.接下来是HPW的卡莉·库利南
983Carrie, please go ahead.卡莉 请继续
984Thank you Christian.谢谢克里斯蒂安
985My question is also related to Helen's question,我的问题也和海伦的问题有关
986which is the person who traveled from the DRC with Ebola他就是从刚果民主共和国乘埃博拉而来的人
987was apparently feverish and sickly.显然是发烧和生病。
988So what I would like to know is所以,我想知道的是,我们
989what information have you got about the screening?你对放映有什么了解?
990Because clearly he also got on an airplane因为很明显他也上了飞机
991and clearly the screening was inadequate.并且显然检查不够充分。
992So could somebody possibly respond所以有人可以回应
993on the nature of the screening筛选的性质
994and why he wasn't picked up?为什么他没被接?
995Thank you.谢谢
996Let's see what we have here.看看这里有什么
997Maybe we can go to Dr. Nima Kimambo,也许我们可以去找尼玛·基曼博医生
998our WHO representative in Kenya,我们卫生组织在肯尼亚的代表,
999to see if we have anything on the receiving airport here看看这里的机场有没有东西
1000and then we see who else we have for that.然后我们看看还有谁
1001Dr. Nima.尼玛医生
1002Yeah, thank you.谢谢
1003And thank you very much for your question.并非常感谢你的问题。
1004While in the history,在历史上,
1005this patient did talk about having fever,这个病人确实说过发烧
1006when the patient was at the airport in Nairobi,当病人在内罗毕机场时
1007the temperature was normal.温度是正常的
1008And we have also just actually this evening其实我们今晚也是
1009through the cross-border collaboration,通过跨界合作,
1010they've been able to identify他们已经能够识别
1011which border this patient crossed into Uganda与这名病人接壤的乌干达
1012and also then did not have fever.也没有发烧
1013I also had an opportunity this evening今晚我也有机会
1014where we went to the airport我们去了机场
1015and we had discussions even with the jumbo jet team.我们甚至还和大喷气机团队讨论过
1016And they said that the patient then他们说,病人当时
1017was just the passenger appeared normal.乘客看起来很正常
1018There was nothing abnormal in his appearance他的外表没有异常
1019or showing that he's sick.或者证明他生病了
1020And even when he came to the hospital in Nairobi,即使他来到内罗毕的医院
1021he went in walking.他走进去了
1022So he only deteriorated after admission.所以他只是在入院后才恶化.
1023So I guess the temperature screening,所以我猜温度检查,
1024because it's a single point in time,因为它是一个时间点,
1025has that fact that you can miss有这样的事实,你可以错过
1026that this person had fever before.这个人以前发烧过
1027Thank you.谢谢
1028Thank you very much, Dr. Nima.非常感谢,尼玛博士
1029I think with this, we can go to the next question我想这样,我们可以去 下一个问题
1030and that's Holly Silverman from the Newsweek.那是新闻周刊的霍莉·西尔弗曼
1031Holly, please go ahead.霍莉,请继续。
1032Holly Silverman 如果我们找不到你
1033then we go to John Saracostos from,然后我们去约翰·萨拉科斯托斯
1034oops, now we go, we have her, yeah.哦,现在我们走了,我们得到了她,是的。
1035Okay, sorry about that.好吧,对不起。
1036Hi, I'm calling from Newsweek.嗨,我从新闻周刊打来
1037I'm calling a question, seeing some reports我问一个问题,看到一些报告
1038that there might have been a joint training可能已经有一个联合培训
1039with China and Russia in August,8月与中国和俄罗斯,
1040an anti-plague training that involved this lab.包括这个实验室的防弹训练
1041Do you guys have any reports of that?你们有报告吗?
1042Is that something that you're looking into?你正在调查吗?
1043Dr. Varkarov.瓦卡罗夫医生
1044Yeah, I would have to check on that specifically.是的,我必须具体检查一下。
1045So let me check and come back to you.让我检查一下再回来找你
1046I don't know off the top of my head.我不知道从头到尾。
1047There's a lot of training that definitely is taking place,有很多训练肯定正在进行中,
1048but let me just double check before I answer.但让我在回答之前再检查一下
1049Thank you, and as we are talking about coming back,谢谢,而当我们谈论 回来,
1050I understand that Dr. Anansia,我知道阿南西亚医生
1051our representative in Kenya, in DRC, excuse me,我们在肯尼亚的代表,在刚果民主共和国,对不起,
1052also wanted to add on the previous question也想补充一下前一个问题
1053by Kerry Collin, and if you're there.克里・科林,如果你在那里。
1054Yes, thank you.是的,谢谢你。
1055Just I wanted to add from the Democratic Republic我只是想补充一下民主共和国
1056of Congo point of view.刚果的观点。
1057We had a meeting earlier with the Minister of Health我们之前和卫生部长见面了
1058and authorities that are working on border house.以及负责边境住房的当局。
1059And effectively we have been able,并且我们有效地做到了,
1060local authorities have been able to pick the information地方当局能够收集信息
1061on the travel of the case,案件旅费,
1062including when you cross the border into Uganda,包括当你越过边界进入乌干达,
1063they have this record.他们有这个记录。
1064In that border, the record is taken by hand.在那个边界,记录是用手取得的。
1065So there was a face-to-face interaction with somebody.所以和某人进行了面对面的互动。
1066And we also have a picture that I saw myself this afternoon还有一张我今天下午看到的照片
1067on the case, and the picture looks really normal.照片看起来很正常
1068And the temperature, the temperature here温度,温度,这里
1069were twice at 36 degrees Celsius,两次摄氏36度,
1070so nothing that should make us be worried.所以没什么值得我们担心的
1071Of course, there are other opportunities当然还有其他机会
1072that the patient were trying to have a sickness,病人试图生病,
1073but for the time being,但暂时,
1074we don't have this kind of information available.我们没有这种信息
1075Thank you very much, Dr. Han, for this input.韩大夫,非常感谢您的投入
1076Next question is for John Saracostos from Lancet.下一个问题是来自柳叶刀的约翰·萨拉科斯托斯.
1077John, please go ahead.约翰,请继续。
1078Yes, good afternoon.对,午安
1079My question is to the representative from WHO Europe.我的问题是,来自卫生组织欧洲的代表。
1080I was wondering, sir, if you know我在想,先生,如果你知道
1081what level of BSL this laboratory has,这个实验室的BSL级别是多少
1082是BSL 3还是BSL 4?
1083And I understand that you approached them我明白你接近他们
1084on October 3, and you got a response on October 6.在10月3日,你得到了一个答复 在10月6日。
1085Is that normal in situations这是正常的情况
1086where it's such a serious pathogen?这里有这么严重的病原体?
1087And are you putting out an alert to member states你向成员国发出警报
1088to be more proactive in reaching out to WHO?更主动地接触卫生组织?
1089Thank you.谢谢
1090Thank you very much, John.谢谢你,约翰
1091I understand this would touch upon our two colleagues here.我知道这将涉及我们在这里的两个同事。
1092First, maybe Dr. Ehuer for the first part,首先,也许Ehuer博士的第一部分,
1093and then Dr. Silvio.然后是西尔维奥博士。
1094I think, yes, as Maria already said,我想,是的,正如玛丽亚已经说过的,
1095we will have to clarify the biosecurity level我们必须澄清生物安保层面
1096of the lab in Irkutsk, whether it's 3, 2, or 4.在伊尔库茨克的实验室, 无论它是3,2还是4。
1097And we will follow up on this question.我们将就该问题采取后续行动。
1098In terms of the chronology of our interaction从我们互动的年代来看
1099with the IHR focal point in the Russian Federation,与俄罗斯联邦人权研究所协调中心合作,
1100我交给Silvio。
1101Thank you, Ehuer.谢谢你,伊荷尔。
1102Yes, actually speaking,是的,实际上说,
1103the verification request was sent on 3rd,核查请求于3日发出,
1104and the reply was received on 6th.并于6日收到答复。
1105Given the timeline given in IHR, it's 24 hours.鉴于IHR给出的时间,是24小时.
1106Obviously, it's not okay.显然,这是不好的。
1107And the sooner, again, I will emphasize,越快,我再次强调,
1108the sooner we get information,我们越早得到信息,
1109the better the outcome,结果越好,
1110because we can do a joint risk assessment at times.因为我们有时可以进行联合风险评估。
1111We combine efforts,我们共同努力,
1112and we can offer support, as Maria mentioned,我们可以提供支持, 正如玛丽亚提到,
1113but we need to know what support is needed and forward.但我们需要知道需要什么支持和前进。
1114Factually speaking, yes, 3rd submitted,事实上,是的,第三次提交,
1115and on 6th replied.并在6日答复。
1116But there were subsequent follow-ups但后来有后续
1117on communications as well, so over.通讯也一样,所以结束。
1118Thank you much.非常感谢
1119Silvio, I understand we have two more questions,Silvio 我知道我们还有两个问题
1120two follow-ups, and I don't think we'll get to the follow-ups,两个后续, 我不认为我们会得到 后续,
1121but I want to take Neil McFarquhar from New York Times,但我想从纽约时报拿下尼尔·麦克法克哈尔
1122and then afterwards, Jamie Keaton here之后,杰米・基顿在这里
1123has the honor in the room to close, so to say.有荣誉在房间里关闭, 所以可以说。
1124But let's start with Neil McFarquhar.但从尼尔·麦克法夸尔开始.
1125Hi, can you hear me?嗨,你能听到我吗?
1126Yes.对
1127Okay, I was wondering about the,好吧,我在想 关于,
1128you know, just to what extent you feel like the world你知道,只是你觉得 多少程度的世界
1129is a little bit more on edge on this one这件事情有点紧张
1130than it might normally be because of the COVID precedent,而不是因为COVID的先例,
1131and to what degree is the lack of information以及在何种程度上缺乏信息
1132contributing to the sense that maybe帮助人们感觉到也许
1133it's a more serious situation than it is?情况比这更严重?
1134Dr. Van Gerkove.范格尔科夫医生
1135Well, I can attempt to try to answer that question.我可以试着回答这个问题
1136I mean, I think there is a lot of attention我的意思是,我认为有很多关注
1137to infectious disease outbreaks.传染病的爆发。
1138I think the world does have a heightened attention我认为世界确实受到高度关注
1139and sensitivity to risk.和对风险的敏感性。
1140I think COVID is certainly in the back of everybody's mind,我认为COVID肯定 在每个人的脑后,
1141and we have a bit of a collective amnesia about it我们有一点集体的失忆症
1142because of the traumatic experience因为痛苦的经历
1143that everyone has gone through.所有人都经历过
1144So I do understand the interest in this.因此,我明白这一点。
1145I understand, you know, when you mention a lab我明白,你知道,当你提到一个实验室
1146or a potential accident in a lab,或实验室可能发生的事故,
1147maybe not getting all of the information,也许没有得到所有的信息,
1148and we have clearly stated that we don't yet have我们明确表示,我们还没有
1149all the information to make a risk assessment.进行风险评估的所有信息。
1150We can understand the attention to this.我们可以理解对此的关注。
1151I think what we try to do in answering your questions,我想我们在回答你的问题时会做什么
1152in doing the day-to-day work从事日常工作
1153about understanding the risks that are out there了解外面的风险
1154and under our mandate of keeping people safe保护人民的安全
1155is to get answers to these straightforward questions.是要找到这些直截了当的问题的答案。
1156Sometimes it does take time for the lab有时候实验室需要时间
1157to do the work that it needs to do完成它需要完成的工作
1158to understand what the infectious agent is.要了解什么是传染性毒剂。
1159Sometimes it takes time to have the full follow-up有时要花点时间 进行充分的后续行动
1160of the event itself.事件本身。
1161So we get it.所以我们明白了。
1162We get the risk.我们得到的风险。
1163We get the interest, let's just say.我们得到的利息,就这么说吧。
1164But we want to put out fair, factual,但是,我们想公布 公平,事实,
1165comprehensive information to the best of our ability,尽我们所能提供全面信息,
1166and when we don't have an answer to something,而当我们没有 答案的东西,
1167we say we don't know,我们说我们不知道,
1168but we also come back and say what we're doing to find out.但我们也回来 并说我们在做什么 找出。
1169This is how we have always operated我们总是这样
1170when we answer your questions,当我们回答你的问题时,
1171what we know, what we don't know,我们知道的,我们不知道的,
1172what we're doing to find out how long it's going to take我们要做什么才能知道要多久
1173and what it actually means for you.以及这对你意味着什么
1174So certainly there is attention to this.因此,人们确实注意到这一点。
1175I won't get into any of the other reasons我不会进入任何其他原因
1176that I'm sure are driving some of this,我敢肯定,这是驱动一些,
1177but our job as public health professionals但我们的公共卫生专业
1178is to make sure that you and our member states是要确保你和你的成员国
1179have the information that they need有他们需要的信息
1180to make sure that they keep their people safe.确保他们的族人安全
1181Thank you very much.谢谢
1182If Jamie promises a very short one,如果杰米答应一个非常短的,
1183then we can take it.然后我们就可以把它。
1184Thank you very much, Christian.非常感谢,克里斯蒂安
1185It's kind of like what Mr. Farquhar just said.这有点像法克哈尔先生刚才说的
1186How much does the lack of transparency in this case本案中缺乏透明度的程度
1187breed unnecessary speculation?滋生不必要的猜测?
1188And how much could we be facing an infodemic我们面对的是多少非命
1189like the one that you guys regularly decried就像你们经常谴责的一样
1190and warned against during the COVID pandemic?并警告在COVID大流行期间?
1191Should we try?我们应该试试吗?
1192Yeah, I mean, I think there is a lot of information是的,我的意思是,我认为有很多信息
1193that is out there.这是在那里。
1194I am really quite impressed我真的很惊讶
1195with how many people are commenting on this.有多少人评论这个。
1196Certainly we need more information.我们当然需要更多信息。
1197We need information in a timely way.我们需要及时的信息。
1198We need regular information.我们需要经常的信息。
1199We need answers to the follow-up我们需要后续的答案
1200of the questions that we have asked.我们提出的问题。
1201We have posed these questions我们提出了这些问题
1202to our colleagues in the Russian Federation.致俄罗斯联邦同事的信。
1203In fairness, they have responded.公平地说,他们作出了回应。
1204We've gone back with more questions.我们又问了几个问题
1205So the timing of this,因此,时间,
1206we have been clear when we asked the questions,当我们问到问题时,我们已经说得很清楚了,
1207when we got the response,当我们得到的反应,
1208we're trying to be factual with that timeline.我们正努力按照时间顺序行事
1209We have gone back and asked for further information.我们回去要求提供进一步的信息。
1210We've listed all of the different pieces我们列出了所有不同的作品
1211of information we need.我们需要的信息。
1212I don't need to reiterate those again,我不需要再说一遍
1213but we clearly need to understand但我们显然需要理解
1214what lab tests were done,实验室的检测结果
1215how this individual died,这个人是怎么死的,
1216what potential exposure she may have had她可能有什么样的潜在暴露
1217so that we could properly understand这样我们才能正确理解
1218the risk that's there.风险在那里。
1219And there is a lot of misinformation还有很多错误信息
1220and disinformation that's out there, of course.当然,还有那些谣言
1221What we are trying to do我们想要做的事
1222with these press conferences,通过这些新闻发布会,
1223with our notifications to member states,我们通知各成员国,
1224with our disease outbreak news我们的疾病爆发新闻
1225is put out factual information as we know it.据我们所知,是公布事实的
1226If that information changes,如果信息有变化,
1227we will report on that.我们将就此提出报告。
1228We will do updated and regular risk assessments我们将定期进行最新的风险评估
1229to put out what we know about the context来公布我们对背景的了解
1230and what risk that it actually poses.以及它真正带来的风险
1231And this is something that we do.这是我们要做的。
1232So bear with us as we do this.忍耐一下我们这样做。
1233We are pushing on our side我们站在我们这边
1234through the international health regulations通过国际卫生条例
1235and through all the channels that we have通过我们所有的渠道
1236to obtain further information.获取更多信息。
1237And we will report on that as soon as we get it.我们一收到报告就立即报告。
1238Thanks very much, Dr. Vankurkov.非常感谢 范库尔科夫博士
1239And with this, we're coming to the end.并以此为本,至于末日.
1240I understand we have a couple more hands up我知道我们还有两只手
1241for follow-up questions,关于后续问题,
1242but that if they weren't answered但如果他们不回答
1243or your questions weren't answered in the process,或者你的问题 在这个过程中没有得到回答,
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