面对全球监管风暴，周受资全英文重磅专访：TikTok 的破局
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | Okay, good morning everybody and show thanks for taking the time to be with us | 好了,早安,大家好,谢谢你们抽空陪我们 |
| 0:05 | before we | 在我们之前 |
| 0:06 | Go into the chat. | 进入聊天。 |
| 0:08 | I thought I'd like to have the audience | 我想请观众 |
| 0:11 | Give some of their views. | 给他们一些看法。 |
| 0:14 | So there is a question for the poll. | 民意调查有个问题 |
| 0:16 | Can we bring the poll question up, please? | 我们能把民意测验的问题提出来吗? |
| 0:28 | Maybe are you all gonna bring the poll question up? | 也许你们都会提出民意测验的问题? |
| 0:40 | Okay, if not, I tell you what I'm gonna do. | 好吧,如果没有, 我告诉你我该怎么办。 |
| 0:42 | All right | 好吧,我们走 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Okay, good morning everybody and show thanks for taking the time to be with us | 好了,早安,大家好,谢谢你们抽空陪我们 |
| 2 | before we | 在我们之前 |
| 3 | Go into the chat. | 进入聊天。 |
| 4 | I thought I'd like to have the audience | 我想请观众 |
| 5 | Give some of their views. | 给他们一些看法。 |
| 6 | So there is a question for the poll. | 民意调查有个问题 |
| 7 | Can we bring the poll question up, please? | 我们能把民意测验的问题提出来吗? |
| 8 | Maybe are you all gonna bring the poll question up? | 也许你们都会提出民意测验的问题? |
| 9 | Okay, if not, I tell you what I'm gonna do. | 好吧,如果没有, 我告诉你我该怎么办。 |
| 10 | All right | 好吧,我们走 |
| 11 | Just the ah | 就是那个啊 |
| 12 | Okay | 还好 |
| 13 | Bring it up. | 举起来. |
| 14 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 15 | Good. | 不错 |
| 16 | So we we asked this question earlier on of many in the audience and we asked in the age of AI | 我们之前问过很多观众的问题, 我们在AI时代问过 |
| 17 | What will matter more and not less and so there were a few questions or a few answers | 还有什么比这更重要的,不是更少的, 所以有一些问题或几个答案 |
| 18 | We had and we can still see some answers earlier on human creativity | 我们以前有过,现在还能看到一些关于人类创造力的答案 |
| 19 | human judgment | 人类的判断 |
| 20 | human curiosity | 人类好奇心 |
| 21 | human relationships or human purpose | 人际关系或人类目的 |
| 22 | So for those of you who have not | 所以你们中没有 |
| 23 | Put in your answers and you still would like to put them in you can | 把你的答案,你仍然想 把它们,你可以 |
| 24 | Try and scan and put your answers in now. | 试着扫描一下,把答案放进去 |
| 25 | I think some of you had done it a bit earlier | 我想你们中有些人早点做了 |
| 26 | Okay, let's give it a still moving still moving. | 好吧,让我们让它静静地移动。 |
| 27 | Let me be respectful of those who are scanning and putting your answers in | 让我尊重那些 扫描和把你的答案 |
| 28 | Okay | 还好 |
| 29 | Let's give it another | 再来一次 |
| 30 | Few seconds or so. | 几秒钟左右。 |
| 31 | Oh | 瓳 |
| 32 | Still moving. | 还动. |
| 33 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 34 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 35 | I think from here we can see from these | 我想从这里我们可以看到这些 |
| 36 | Poll results, so thank you very much for your participation looks like a human judgment | 投票结果,所以非常感谢你的参与 看起来像是人类的判断 |
| 37 | Has got a thirty six point nine percent | 百分之三十六 百分之九 |
| 38 | Now thirty six point six. | 现在三十六点六分 |
| 39 | So it's between human judgment | 所以这是在人类的判断之间 |
| 40 | human relationships and | 人际关系和 |
| 41 | Then kind of human creativity and human purpose kind of a on the edge | 然后一种人类的创造力 和人类的目的 一种边缘 |
| 42 | So thank you very much for your participation now | 非常感谢你的参与 |
| 43 | I've given all of you one answer to give so might have been a bit difficult | 我给大家一个答案 可能有点难 |
| 44 | But for sure since it's our special guest | 不过既然是我们特别的客人 |
| 45 | I thought I'll give him a little bit more of a K long | 我想我会给他多一点K长 |
| 46 | You know Singapore terms a bit of a long thing, right? | 你知道新加坡说得有点长吧? |
| 47 | So sure you can have more than one answer | 确定你能有一个以上的答案 |
| 48 | But what do you think about this? | 但你觉得怎么样? |
| 49 | I think it's such an interesting | 我觉得这很有趣 |
| 50 | Survey and first of all, thank you DBS for having me. | 首先 感谢DBS邀请我 |
| 51 | Thank you Sushant for the introduction | 谢谢你的介绍 |
| 52 | I am from Singapore and I'm quite | 我来自新加坡,我相当 |
| 53 | Transparency I am too born bread through blue | 透明,我太天生的面包通过蓝色 |
| 54 | I think I think what is really interesting about this survey is | 我觉得这次调查真正有趣的是 |
| 55 | We don't have to question the definition of human here, right? | 我们不必质疑人类的定义,对吧? |
| 56 | I think human is a very obviously a very broad term and between human to human even all of us in this room | 我认为人类显然是一个非常宽泛的术语,在这个房间里的我们所有人都是人与人之间。 |
| 57 | I think it is fair to say our judgment is different | 我认为说我们的判断是不同的是公平的 |
| 58 | We're gonna have a varied judgment between myself yourself, you know people in various corners of the room | 我们对自己会有不同的判断, 你知道人们在房间里的各个角落 |
| 59 | so the fact that we | 所以,事实上我们 |
| 60 | able to | 能够 |
| 61 | You know very quickly come to a consensus that there's such a thing called human judgment human, you know relationships human creativity | 你知道很快就达成了一个共识 一种叫做人类判断的东西 你知道人类的创造力 |
| 62 | I think it juxtaposes with what we are dealing with which is something that's not | 我认为它与我们所处理的事情是并存的 |
| 63 | Innately biologically like us and may behave in a way that's very different from us. | 天生就和我们一样 行为方式可能跟我们完全不同 |
| 64 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 65 | I do agree with basically, you know, all of the above | 我基本上同意,你知道的,所有以上 |
| 66 | I think all of this these five things will matter a lot. | 我想这五件事都很重要 |
| 67 | I think for judgment, you know, there's a lot of talk about | 我想为了判断,你知道, 有很多谈论 |
| 68 | AI alignment at this moment in time and of course, there's some very extreme examples that have been given out there | AI在此时此刻的校对,当然, 有一些非常极端的例子 在那里, |
| 69 | I think there's a paperclip example. | 我想这里有个纸屑的例子 |
| 70 | That's very famous | 这很出名 |
| 71 | And I may be butchering this analogy, but it's something along the lines of you ask the machines to produce more paperclips and it ends up | 我也许在宰了这个类比, 但这是你这样想的, 要求机器生产更多的纸片,结果 |
| 72 | Doing that only one thing which is to completely overweight on production of paperclips at the expense of everything else | 只做一件事,就是完全超重 生产纸片,牺牲一切 |
| 73 | so that | 这样 |
| 74 | You know, I think we are grappling a lot with how do we? | 你知道,我觉得我们有很多 与我们如何努力? |
| 75 | As we're dealing with something that's so powerful as Sushant alluded to things that can solve very complex mathematical problems | 当我们面对着苏珊特所说的 能够解决非常复杂的数学问题的力量 |
| 76 | Now I was chatting with some other entrepreneurs over the weekend. | 周末我和其他一些企业家聊天 |
| 77 | My view is that in the next two to three years | 我的看法是,在未来的两三年里 |
| 78 | We're gonna have a real scientific breakthrough | 我们要有一个真正的科学突破 |
| 79 | physics biotech | 物理学生物技术 |
| 80 | Chemistry material science because of AI it's very very very possible | 化学材料科学 因为AI,这是非常可能的 |
| 81 | And if that happens, then you know, the question would be how do you align? | 如果那样的话,你就会知道, 问题在于你如何配合? |
| 82 | The models, how do you align the machines to be doing things that? | 模型,你如何调整机器 做那些事情? |
| 83 | It's obvious to us as human beings like this is very obvious that these are the boundaries of what you should do morally and ethically | 作为这样的人,我们很显然 这些是你们应该做的道德和伦理的界限 |
| 84 | And these are the boundaries of what you should not do. | 这些都是你不应该做的事的界限。 |
| 85 | I don't think we have an answer to be honest at this moment in time | 此时此刻,我想我们没有老实回答 |
| 86 | I think it really is a very complex issue | 我认为这是个非常复杂的问题 |
| 87 | But it will it will matter in the age of AI. | 但它会在AI时代有所影响. |
| 88 | So so that's on judgment on creativity | 所以这是对创造力的判断 |
| 89 | For a tick tock it is very relevant | 对于一个滴答,它非常相关 |
| 90 | Just as way of introduction for those who don't know tick tock is a short video app | 对不知道滴答的人的介绍 只是一个短视频应用 |
| 91 | If you don't have it, there's Wi-Fi you can download it is free | 如果你没有,有Wi-Fi 你可以免费下载 |
| 92 | to use | 用于 |
| 93 | Apart from tick tock, you know at bike dance. | 除了滴答,你知道在自行车舞。 |
| 94 | We also produce our own AI models | 我们还生产自己的AI模型 |
| 95 | Right now for our video generation model is called seed dance is | 现在,我们的视频生成模型 叫做种子舞 |
| 96 | Probably one of the better ones today. | 也许今天是更好的之一。 |
| 97 | Our industry term is SOTA. | 我们的行业术语是SOTA。 |
| 98 | It's state of the art and | 这是最新艺术和 |
| 99 | Our large language model is | 我们的大语言模型是 |
| 100 | Not that it's pretty good. | 不是说它相当不错。 |
| 101 | It's pretty up there and we have built those models into two businesses one | 上面相当漂亮,我们把这些模型建成两个企业 |
| 102 | Which is the power our internal consumer apps like take out like doing like dope out in China and the other is to sell it as an API | 我们内部的消费者应用软件就像在中国做毒品一样 拥有的能量是作为API出售 |
| 103 | So through our AI team, so if anyone's interested, you know, of course studying sushi and I'm going to use this opportunity to do some advertising for | 所以,通过我们的AI团队, 所以如果任何人有兴趣, 你知道,当然,学习寿司 我要利用这个机会做一些广告 |
| 104 | model as a service business | 作为服务业务的模式 |
| 105 | But for creativity itself, it's it's quite interesting because you know with | 但对于创造力本身来说 这很有趣 因为你知道 |
| 106 | We have allowed our users to produce a lot of very realistic AI videos using our models | 我们让用户用我们的模型 制作许多非常现实的AI视频 |
| 107 | I have produced a few myself. | 我亲手制作了几本 |
| 108 | We have published it | 我们已出版 |
| 109 | There is still a an imbalance between the percentage of videos that are being created | 正在创作的视频比例之间仍然不平衡。 |
| 110 | they are AI generated and the number of views and the percentage of views that are being seen and | 它们是大赦国际生成的,意见的数量和所看到意见的百分比,以及 |
| 111 | It's lopsided in the way that there are more people as a percentage creating AI content than there are views of it | 它的偏差在于 创造AI内容的人比例比有观点要多 |
| 112 | So I think there's still a very strong | 所以我觉得还有很强的力量 |
| 113 | Desire because the views is powered also by AI by a recommendation algorithm and it's a very democratic experience | 渴望因为观点也是由AI通过推荐算法赋予力量的,而这是一种非常民主的经验. |
| 114 | So it really shows people what they want to see | 所以它真的向人们展示了他们想看到的 |
| 115 | So what we took away from this is I think there's a lot of | 所以,我们从这里拿走的是 我认为有很多 |
| 116 | Experiment with using AI to create more more content and a lot of it is a lot more creative than you can ever imagine | 用人工智能创造更多内容的实验 并且很多都是你想象不到的 |
| 117 | But at the same time, I think human adoption of just watching AI content is not the same at this moment in time | 但与此同时,我觉得人类通过 只是看AI的内容是不一样的 在这个时候 |
| 118 | It's still low single digit percentage in terms of views. | 其收视率仍低于单位数百分比. |
| 119 | So I think people still value a lot of authenticity | 所以我认为人们仍然很重视真实性 |
| 120 | When I see a video and you know, it's very obviously not | 当我看到一个视频 你知道, 它非常明显不是 |
| 121 | Real it's very obviously artificial like sort of artificially generated | 真实的,它显然是人工的 像某种人工生成 |
| 122 | I think there's still a little bit of pushback in terms of consumption people still want to see very real very authentic things | 我觉得在消费方面还有一点退缩 人们仍然想看到非常真实的东西 |
| 123 | So I agree that human creativity will continue to be important. | 因此,我同意人类的创造力仍然很重要。 |
| 124 | I'll pause here. | 我会在这里暂停。 |
| 125 | Yeah, thank you show | 是啊,谢谢你显示 |
| 126 | You've been very generous with commenting on that | 你一直很慷慨的评论 |
| 127 | So as we as we have heard from what show has said actually all of these various characteristics here | 正如我们从节目中听到的 节目中讲到的,这些不同的特点 |
| 128 | Which have got some people voting for are indeed certain aspects | 让一些人投票支持的 确实是某些方面 |
| 129 | That we human beings I think can can and will have to work | 我们人类,我认为可以 并且将不得不工作 |
| 130 | With the evolution of this technology | 随着这种技术的发展 |
| 131 | So in fact actually show has answered one of the questions I was gonna ask him about | 所以,实际上显示已经回答了一个问题 我本来要问他关于 |
| 132 | Whether in this world where AI is increasingly being used to recommend to influence and to make decisions | 在世界中,AI是否越来越多地被用来建议影响和作出决定? |
| 133 | What is meaningfully human? | 什么是有意义的人类? |
| 134 | Or what remains meaningfully human? | 或者什么是有意义的人类? |
| 135 | I think sure has given quite a good | 我想这给人很大好处 |
| 136 | Kind of explanation to this but if I may just build on that a little bit a little bit more | 有点解释,但请允许我再多一点 |
| 137 | Therefore in light of this given that we're at this stage of AI evolution | 因此,考虑到我们正处于AI进化阶段 |
| 138 | Where as you've mentioned, you know things are still evolving | 你提到的地方,你知道事情还在演变 |
| 139 | Authenticity is still very important in content creation | 认证在内容创建中仍然非常重要 |
| 140 | What therefore should human beings actually work on in? | 因此,人类应实际从事哪些工作? |
| 141 | Developing our capabilities in order to remain successful in this age of AI. | 发展我们的能力,以便在这个AI时代保持成功. |
| 142 | I think there is increasingly | 我认为有越来越多的 |
| 143 | the belief that | 认为 |
| 144 | This should be a very it should be a human AI sort of | 应该是人类的人工智能 |
| 145 | Combination rather than letting the machines take complete full reign of all decisions | 联合起来,而不是让机器完全掌握一切决定 |
| 146 | No, of course increasingly with as technology gets better | 不,当然随着技术的提高, 技术的不断进步 |
| 147 | I think and as we build the infrastructure to let the agents do more things for us and we build their trust and the guardrails | 我认为,当我们建设基础设施,让特工们为我们做更多的事情时,我们建立他们的信任和护栏。 |
| 148 | Probably what will happen in the long term is we will allow the agents to do more and more things autonomously | 可能从长远来看 我们会让特工们 自主地做更多事情 |
| 149 | I think this is probably the trend but in the short term, I think a short meaning at least for the next | 我认为这可能是趋势,但在短期内,我认为一个简短的含义至少对于下一个 |
| 150 | Two three years. | 两年三年. |
| 151 | I think it's going to matter a lot | 我觉得这很重要 |
| 152 | The skills that you develop to be able to use AI very effectively. | 你为了能够非常有效地使用AI而发展的技能. |
| 153 | I think that's probably the most important thing | 我想这可能是最重要的事情 |
| 154 | for us internally like | 对我们内部一样 |
| 155 | What we are encouraging not just our engineers | 我们所鼓励的不只是我们的工程师 |
| 156 | But also, you know our lawyers and people working in corporate functions do is to have more first-hand experience | 并且,你知道我们的律师 和在公司工作的人 是拥有更多的第一手经验 |
| 157 | Because if you don't use these and it's changing so quickly if you don't use these models and you don't use these products yourself | 因为如果你不使用这些 并且它正在变化如此之快 如果你不使用这些模型 |
| 158 | You cannot figure out what exactly it can or cannot do | 你无法知道它到底能做什么或不能做什么 |
| 159 | just by reading about it, so I think one of the | 只是通过阅读它, 所以我认为其中之一 |
| 160 | Key characteristics, you know, at least for the next couple of years. | 关键特征,你知道, 至少在未来几年。 |
| 161 | There will be really important is | 这很重要 |
| 162 | Being hands-on by being curious being very hands-on, you know open claw came out | 以好奇为己任 你知道打开的爪子出来了 |
| 163 | You know, we encourage people to try it obviously understand the boundaries of you know, the security aspects of it | 你知道,我们鼓励人们尝试它 明显理解你的界限,它的安全方面 |
| 164 | But try it for yourself. | 但自试下. |
| 165 | So you understand what the hype is about you understand | 所以,你明白 胡言乱语是什么 你明白 |
| 166 | You know where the boundaries of this technology can be and it's not some | 你知道这种技术的界限在哪里 而不是某些 |
| 167 | Mythical thing that can do everything at this moment in time is not | 此时此刻能做一切的神话不是 |
| 168 | So I think a lot of that | 所以我觉得很多 |
| 169 | at least for internal employees | 至少对内部雇员而言 |
| 170 | We have developed a lot of programs to allow them to have access to frontier models. | 我们制定了许多方案,使他们能够接触前沿模式。 |
| 171 | We give them some | 我们给他们一些 |
| 172 | Programs that we pay for some of their token consumption | 我们支付他们一些象征性消费的方案 |
| 173 | not only for work use but also a little bit of personal consumption as well and the encouragement is to make sure people are | 不仅为了工作 也为了一点个人消费 并且鼓励人们 |
| 174 | Being very hands-on and really using these | 非常亲切和真正使用这些 |
| 175 | New tools as they come into the market to stay on top of it | 新的工具,当他们进入市场 留在上面 |
| 176 | I think that's probably the most important thing right now. | 我认为这可能是最重要的 现在的事情。 |
| 177 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 178 | Thank you | 谢谢 |
| 179 | I I can't agree more with many of these things you're saying right about still having | 我完全同意你说的这些话 |
| 180 | Really humans at a center making the making the judgment deciding what to do what not to do | 真正的人类 在一个中心 做出判断 决定做什么 不做什么 |
| 181 | And in this case about really embracing AI | 而在这种情况下,关于真正的拥抱AI |
| 182 | I think sometimes in life people take a very extreme stand. | 我觉得生活中有时人们会采取非常极端的立场. |
| 183 | It's either humans or machines | 是人还是机器 |
| 184 | Sometimes people take a therefore even more extreme stand to totally reject it | 有时人们会采取更极端的立场 完全拒绝 |
| 185 | protest against it and some | 抗议和反对 |
| 186 | Overly hyped up with the embracing of it. | 超乎寻常地被拥抱着 |
| 187 | So I think that ability for us to balance | 所以我认为我们有能力平衡 |
| 188 | I agree with you is actually very very important. | 我同意你的观点,其实非常重要 |
| 189 | Yeah on that | 对啊 |
| 190 | I I think it was some I can't remember some somebody else said this I think short term | 我想这是一些我不记得了 别人说,我认为短期 |
| 191 | We are probably overestimating overestimating it but long term with that probably underestimating and the trend is very very clear | 我们可能高估了它,但从长远来看,可能低估了它,而且趋势非常明显。 |
| 192 | it's | 这是 |
| 193 | The we are only at the beginning of what you know artificial intelligence can probably do and | 我们才刚刚开始 你知道人工智能可能能做的 |
| 194 | If you look at you know, where the trend is the progress is particularly in areas of science | 如果你看看,你知道, 哪里的趋势是 进步特别在科学领域 |
| 195 | It's really trending on a very steep curve at this moment in time | 此时此刻,它正向一个非常陡峭的曲线发展 |
| 196 | So I think long term, you know, we probably don't fully understand the profound impact | 所以我想从长远来看,我们可能不完全理解 深刻的影响 |
| 197 | This is going to have across our human lives, you know over the long term by the short term. | 这将会贯穿我们的生命, 从长远来看,从短期来看。 |
| 198 | It's you know | 这是你知道的 |
| 199 | Human beings need time to adopt these kind of technology. | 人类需要时间来采用这种技术。 |
| 200 | We talked about AI coding in in our industry | 我们谈了我们行业的AI编码 |
| 201 | We are probably one of the first to get disrupted by AI, especially in terms of coding itself | 我们可能是第一个被AI打乱的人之一, 特别是在编码方面 |
| 202 | But coding really only takes up 30% of most of the engineers time a lot of the other stuff | 但编码只占用30%的工程师时间 其他很多东西 |
| 203 | It's still very human, you know writing your engineering plan planning, you know talking to a product manager and a lot of their coordination | 它仍然非常人性化,你知道写你的工程计划, 你知道与一个产品经理交谈, 和他们的很多协调 |
| 204 | Yes, you can see how as AI tools get better that also goes away | 是的,你可以看到 AI 工具如何变得更好 也走了 |
| 205 | But it will probably take longer than people expect | 但可能比人们预期的要长 |
| 206 | You know, there's still a lot of you want to let you know, you want to double-check a little bit | 你知道,还有很多人想告诉你, 你想检查一下 |
| 207 | You're not going to deploy your code without checking at all. | 你不检查一下就不会部署密码 |
| 208 | That's that's really not you know, advisable | 这真的不是你知道的,可取的 |
| 209 | So short term is probably this kind of you know sense in the gear | 所以,短期可能是 这种你 知道感在齿轮 |
| 210 | It's probably going to slow down progress | 可能会放慢进度 |
| 211 | But I think it's risky to think that just because it's slow in a shorter term | 但我觉得这样认为很冒险 只是因为很慢 |
| 212 | That it will not become very important in the long term. | 从长远来看,它不会变得非常重要。 |
| 213 | It's also that's the wrong conclusion to take away | 这也是错误的结论 带走 |
| 214 | I agree and that's why it's very important for us to actually start embracing building it because at some point we believe that there will | 我同意 这就是为什么我们真正开始拥抱它是非常重要的 因为有时候我们相信 |
| 215 | Be an inflection and when the inflection comes it's very important for us to be ready | 做个坏事,当坏事降临时, 对我们来说,做好准备是非常重要的 |
| 216 | personally as well as in the businesses that we run if I may then just move on a little bit more because | 无论是个人还是我们经营的生意... ...如果我能再继续前进一点... ...因为... |
| 217 | Actually, as you mentioned, you know, it's it's probably something which human beings would take a bit more time to learn and adopt and therefore | 事实上,正如你提到的,你知道, 它可能是一些东西, 人类会花更多的时间学习和收养, 因此, |
| 218 | From what you've seen not just in the business you run but in your interactions with people | 从你所看到的,不只是你经营的生意, 而是你与人的互动 |
| 219 | Have you where have you really seen AI? | 你真的在哪里见过AI? |
| 220 | Enable just ordinary people to achieve things that they previously never thought was possible or many many aspects | 让普通人能够实现他们以前从未想过的可能或许多方面 |
| 221 | internally, we try to simplify this into a | 内部,我们试图 简化这一点为 |
| 222 | 2x2 matrix | 2x2 矩阵 |
| 223 | You know if you take things that are | 你知道如果你拿的东西 |
| 224 | Routine and very non-routine, you know | 常规和非常非常规,你知道的 |
| 225 | Very sort of differentiated as one axis and you take things that kind of high stakes and low stakes as the other axis | 有点像一个轴,你把 那种高桩和低桩作为另一个轴 |
| 226 | You very quickly find that things that are routine and low stakes really honestly the agents can automate and do very very quickly | 你很快就发现,那些例行公事和低赌注 老实说,代理可以自动化 并非常迅速地做 |
| 227 | Anything that's high higher stakes. | 任何高赌注的东西 |
| 228 | You probably want to be a bit more careful | 你也许更想小心一点 |
| 229 | But the frontier models can probably do most of that too anything that's very high stakes and very very | 但边疆模型可能也能做 大部分那些非常重要和非常 |
| 230 | Differentiated a very high touch. | 差别甚高触. |
| 231 | I think those are the things that you probably need still need a lot of human involvement | 我认为这些是你可能需要的 还需要很多人类参与 |
| 232 | Let me give you one example | 让我举个例子 |
| 233 | One thing about tiktok is we have a lot of users around the world today | Tiktok的一件事就是 我们今天在世界各地有很多用户 |
| 234 | Sushant mentioned you safety, you know, it's obviously a very big thing for us now in order for us to understand say a 14 year old | 苏珊提到你的安全,你知道, 这显然是一个非常重大的事情 现在,为了让我们明白 说一个14岁 |
| 235 | experience in Nigeria, you know | 在尼日利亚的经历,你知道的 |
| 236 | The French speaking experience in Nigeria for a 14 year old, you know in the past | 14岁在尼日利亚的法语经验,你知道的 |
| 237 | Yes, you know we can have our trust and safety human beings go set up an account, you know test the account | 是的,你知道我们可以有我们的信任和安全的人 去建立一个账户,你知道测试账户 |
| 238 | Watch a hundred videos write a report about it | 看一百个视频写报告 |
| 239 | Now I can just deploy a thousand agents and do it overnight and the next morning it will just generate its own report | 现在,我可以部署一千名特工 并做一夜, 第二天早上 它会只是生成自己的报告 |
| 240 | What is the content you saw, you know, whether it's how much of it is violated against our guidelines | 你看到的内容是什么,你知道, 它是不是有多少违反我们的准则 |
| 241 | I mean this whole thing is automated when we talk about content moderation | 我的意思是,这整件事是自动化的 当我们谈论内容节制 |
| 242 | we have a very | 我们有一个非常 |
| 243 | significant live streaming platform and life by definition is quite difficult to to moderate because it's life and there are | 从定义上说,重要的直播平台和生命很难温和,因为它是生命和生命 |
| 244 | Tens of millions of live streams that's happening at any moment in time in the past | 过去任何时刻都会有数千万条活溪流 |
| 245 | You know without a lot of the new AI tools in the market | 你知道市场上没有很多新的AI工具 |
| 246 | It is quite difficult you do some random random sampling for live streaming rooms | 做一些随机的随机采样 活流室是很困难的 |
| 247 | But it's quite difficult to be very very precise and very accurate at the same time | 但很难做到非常精确和准确 |
| 248 | but right now with this video recognize | 但是现在这段录像能认出来 |
| 249 | VLM models you are able to just very quickly take a live streaming video | VLM模型,你能够快速地拍下视频 |
| 250 | Convert it into a text narrative and then match that against your community guidelines | 转换成文字说明,然后与您的社区指南相匹配 |
| 251 | Things like, you know, somebody's driving a car | 比如说,有人在开车 |
| 252 | The AI is able to see that the speedometer is tracking the car at 160 kilometers per hour | AI可以看到速度计以每小时160公里的速度追踪这辆车 |
| 253 | A human being might miss that, you know, if it's a hundred sixty kilometers per hour is dangerous driving | 人可能会错过,你知道, 如果它是每小时一百六十公里是危险的驾驶 |
| 254 | You know, it's things like that that AI has tremendously improved our capability to do a lot of our work | 你知道,事情是这样的,AI 已经极大地提高了我们的能力 做我们的许多工作 |
| 255 | So I mean I can give you a lot more examples like that. | 所以我可以给你更多的例子。 |
| 256 | So on the one hand, you know, we | 所以一方面,你知道,我们 |
| 257 | You know | 你知道吗 |
| 258 | Obviously like everybody else are mindful of the new risks that it could bring to the market the safeguards we need | 很明显,像其他人一样, 也意识到了新的风险 它可以带给市场 我们需要的保障 |
| 259 | In how do we understand the cyber security risks it brings on the other hand, we are tremendously excited by how much | 我们如何理解网络安全带来的风险, |
| 260 | Productivity it enables within the company on a personal note | 公司内部的生产力 以个人名义 |
| 261 | How has AI actually helped you already kind of amplify your own? | AI怎么帮助你 已经有点扩大你自己? |
| 262 | capabilities own creativity I | 自我创造力 |
| 263 | I use AI as a lot as a sounding board | 我经常用人工智能做音响板 |
| 264 | For example, you know recently became a US taxpayer and the US tax, you know regime is practically impossible to understand | 例如,你知道最近 成为美国纳税人和美国的税, 你知道政权几乎不可能理解 |
| 265 | You know without the help of AI. | 你知道,没有AI的帮助。 |
| 266 | So with AI has really helped me a lot | 所以用人工智能帮了我很多忙 |
| 267 | I've also become as become my personal nutritionist | 我也变成了我的营养师 |
| 268 | I take a picture of you know food that I eat and it tells me, you know | 我拍了张照片,你知道我吃的食物 它告诉我,你知道 |
| 269 | Don't eat so much of this eat more of that | 别吃这么多,多吃点 |
| 270 | It just feels like it's a very nice companion to have on a personal level like a super smart | 这感觉就像一个非常好的伴侣 在个人层面 像超级聪明 |
| 271 | Person whom you can always have a conversation with and and on the health side, for example, I am | 比如说,我... |
| 272 | I broke my shoulder earlier this year and I maybe had 200 questions for my surgeon | 今年早些时候我肩膀断了,我也许有200个问题要问外科医生 |
| 273 | But AI answered 90% of it. | 但AI回答其中的90%. |
| 274 | So I saved I saved the surgeon 90% of a questioning time | 所以我救了医生90%的审讯时间 |
| 275 | So I use cases like this. | 所以我用这样的案子。 |
| 276 | I think it's just tremendously helpful | 我觉得这很有帮助 |
| 277 | Yeah, actually I just met show yesterday at the paddock right and and to me | 是的,其实我昨天刚在仓库见了个面 |
| 278 | My impression of show every time I see he looks pretty much very fit like that | 我每次看到他都觉得他很合身 |
| 279 | And I hadn't realized he's lost some ways gotten a lot fitter and say how he said AI and exactly what he just shared | 我还没意识到 他失去了一些方法 得到了很多适切 并说他怎么说AI 和他刚刚分享的东西 |
| 280 | About how some sub how his agent will stop him from eating what he should have stopped eating. | 他的经纪人会如何阻止他吃他应该吃的东西 |
| 281 | It will remind me | 它会提醒我 |
| 282 | It will remind me. | 它会提醒我。 |
| 283 | It will not physically. | 它不会在身体上。 |
| 284 | Okay, that's not yet. | 好吧,这还没有。 |
| 285 | So remind him and then he has to stop it himself | 所以提醒他,然后他必须自己阻止它 |
| 286 | So you see how AI and human beings can work hand-in-hand together. | 所以,你可以看到AI和人类如何携手合作. |
| 287 | It's not one or the other | 不是这样的 |
| 288 | So thank you very much for this now | 所以现在非常感谢你 |
| 289 | Probably as we look at how AI continues to evolve right you talked about we being really just at the | 也许当我们看AI如何 继续进化,正确的 你谈到我们真的只是 |
| 290 | At the at the beginning of this of this evolution and and we we very much agree with that | 我们非常同意 |
| 291 | So going for we say it can actually have a lot more potential now if you were to look forward | 所以,我们说,它实际上可以 更多的潜力现在,如果你是向前看 |
| 292 | What are the possibilities that you see being able to be unlocked by AI that really really excites you? | 你看到AI能解锁 真正让你兴奋的可能性是什么? |
| 293 | I think | 我觉得 |
| 294 | In terms of the tick-tock product itself. | 在滴答产品本身方面. |
| 295 | It's AI is really touching every part of our app experience | 我们的应用经验中 都有人工智能 |
| 296 | from creation the creation of videos | 从创建视频开始 |
| 297 | Right now, you know it because if you weren't a brand company | 现在,你知道,因为如果你不是品牌公司 |
| 298 | So you're selling a particular product and you want to post a video ad | 所以,你正在销售一个特定的产品 你想张贴一个视频广告 |
| 299 | It will probably cost you between a hundred to a thousand or even more | 可能要花你一百到一千块 |
| 300 | Dollars to make one video because you need to hire a team. | 做一个视频需要美元 因为你需要雇用一个团队。 |
| 301 | You need to hire a production house | 你需要雇个生产厂 |
| 302 | You even if you do it in house, you need to pay a salary | 即使你在家里做,你也要付薪水 |
| 303 | It will take you some cost to do that | 这样做要花点钱 |
| 304 | You can produce on our seed dance model | 你可以制作我们的种子舞蹈模型 |
| 305 | You can just put a your product picture in you can put in a video that you want your ad to look to look like | 你可以把一个你的产品图片 你可以把一个视频 你希望你的广告看起来像 |
| 306 | And we can produce a video for you, which is about one to two orders of magnitude orders of magnitude cheaper | 我们可以为你制作一个视频, 大约一到两个数量级 数量级更便宜 |
| 307 | Meaning, you know between one to ten dollars you can produce a video like this | 意思是,你知道一到十美元 你可以制作这样的视频 |
| 308 | So on the creation side you can see this | 所以在创作方面,你可以看到这个 |
| 309 | The short drama industry which | 短剧产业 |
| 310 | Really was an industry that we embraced first in China and then in the rest of the world | 真正意义上的产业,我们首先在中国,然后在世界其他地方 |
| 311 | Micro series, you know don't you if you haven't seen it that industry is now | 微型系列,你知道,如果你还没有看到 它,工业现在 |
| 312 | I think the major overwhelming majority of short dramas that being produced | 我认为绝大多数的短剧正在制作中 |
| 313 | AI produced using you know models like seed dance and other models. | AI使用你了解的模型如种子舞和其他模型制作. |
| 314 | So on the creation side you see this already happening | 所以在创作方面,你已经看到这种情况 |
| 315 | I I think is akin to opening a magazine today | 我想今天是开杂志的时候 |
| 316 | If you open a magazine a hundred percent of the photos are photoshopped, but you don't feel like they are | 如果你开个杂志 百分之百的照片都是被剪辑的 但你感觉不像 |
| 317 | CGI, you know, there's the human element of it and then there's the Photoshop to make it even better | CGI,你知道的,有它的人的因素 然后有照片店 使它更好 |
| 318 | We'll probably end you know in a state like this for video generation as well | 我们可能会结束 你知道在这样的状态 视频生成 |
| 319 | Where you have a lot of human creativity behind it and driving it but it's made a lot better with AI | 在那里你有很多人类的创造力 背后和驱动它,但它使很多 更好的AI |
| 320 | So I think that part of creation is happening on the recommendation model itself | 所以我认为创作的一部分 发生在推荐模式本身 |
| 321 | We I know we our | 我知道我们自己 |
| 322 | Recommendation has always been based on machine learning but with the advent of these large language models | 建议总是基于机器学习,但随着这些大语言模型的出现 |
| 323 | I think in a lot of companies like us and others are realizing that from a fundamental technology point of view | 我认为,在很多公司中,像我们和其他人 正在认识到,从一个基本的技术观点 |
| 324 | You can make the models larger. | 你可以让模型变大。 |
| 325 | You can add in on a lot of new | 你可以加入许多新的 |
| 326 | Large language model capabilities into the traditional recommendation models and it's making it better and it's very obvious | 大型语言模型能力 进入传统的推荐模型 它正在使它更好 而且非常明显 |
| 327 | You know just by looking at the numbers that it really brings about a better user experience | 你知道,只是通过看数字 它真正带来 更好的用户体验 |
| 328 | there's a very large search a component to tick-tock as well and | 有一个非常大的搜索 组件的滴答以及 |
| 329 | We have building our own chatbot experience into that search because people don't just want to search and ask for a result | 我们在搜索中积累了我们自己的聊天人的经验 因为人们并不只是想要搜索和要求结果 |
| 330 | Sometimes they want to have a conversation about it | 有时他们想谈一下 |
| 331 | You know | 你知道吗 |
| 332 | What was that person wearing in the video and you have a whole conversation about it and that adoption is also in its double digits | 视频里那个穿什么衣服的人 你对此有一番对话 收养也是双数 |
| 333 | Within the app so it's and we talked about content moderation just now | 在应用程序里,所以它和我们谈论 内容节制刚才 |
| 334 | We talked about how our engineers are just using AI to code for them | 我们讨论过我们的工程师 如何利用人工智能为他们编码 |
| 335 | At least to help them code to a lot of the routine code today | 至少今天可以帮他们破解很多常规代码 |
| 336 | So you see this touching almost every single part of our business | 所以,你看到这个 触动几乎每一个部分 我们的业务 |
| 337 | But probably the most exciting if you ask me is what AI can do for science | 但是如果你问我 AI能为科学做什么 也许是最令人兴奋的 |
| 338 | Their bike dance there is a there's an effort to build | 他们的自行车舞是努力的 |
| 339 | the large language models as well and there's an effort to | 大型语言模型 也有一个努力 |
| 340 | See how we can collaborate with a lot of scientists to make some progress in science as well | 看看我们如何与许多科学家合作 也取得一些科学进展 |
| 341 | there's been some work that we've done in this area and | 我们在这方面做了一些工作, |
| 342 | It is very exciting | 令人兴奋 |
| 343 | Yeah | 对 |
| 344 | I think there's a lot of a lot of people are seeing tremendous | 我觉得很多人都看到了 |
| 345 | Potential for AI to really push the boundaries of science for it | AI真正推开科学界限的潜力 |
| 346 | And I think that's going to be very very meaningful for all of us. | 我认为这对我们所有人都非常有意义。 |
| 347 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 348 | agree | 约定 |
| 349 | I mean again from a lot of interactions we have of course as a bank with many of our customers and industry players | 我的意思是,从很多互动 我们当然是一个银行 我们的许多客户和行业参与者 |
| 350 | We do see that actually being deployed not just in some of things you talked about but in manufacturing in | 我们确实看到,实际上部署 不仅在一些事情 你谈论, 和制造 |
| 351 | Redesigning or reimagining manufacturing in redesigning and reimagining even pharmaceutical, right? | 重新设计或再设想制造 重新设计和再设想甚至制药,对不对? |
| 352 | So in various various industries | 所以在不同行业 |
| 353 | We're actually very excited ourselves to see how the potential can can be can be unleashed even in our own industry in banking | 我们非常兴奋地看到 即使在我们自己的银行业 如何释放潜力 |
| 354 | we are completely transforming where you have something we call the | 我们完全在改变你有什么 我们称之为 |
| 355 | Operating model transformation. | 运营模式转型. |
| 356 | We are effectively adopting AI in every step of the way how we are onboarding clients | 我们实际上在用人工智能 逐步接纳客户 |
| 357 | How | 怎么样 |
| 358 | We are putting in tools to help better with portfolio construction advisory services | 我们正在提供各种工具,帮助更好地提供一揽子建设咨询服务。 |
| 359 | Will allow you to execute your own transactions and at the end of the day also how to service how we try to improve both | 将允许您执行自己的交易 并在一天结束时 如何服务 如何我们尝试改善 |
| 360 | The customer journey as well as the journeys for all employees and it sounds like it's the same in the organization that you run now | 客户之旅 以及所有员工之旅 听起来你现在经营的组织也一样 |
| 361 | Building on that building on that given that there's so much potential there's already an adoption that we can see starting in various industries as well | 在此基础上,考虑到有如此多的潜力 已经有一个收养,我们可以看到 从各个行业开始 |
| 362 | What do you think it's still not receiving enough attention? | 你认为它还没有得到足够的关注? |
| 363 | That we should really call out so that we can collectively pay more attention to I think you know the | 我们真的应该叫出来 这样我们就可以集体地 更多关注,我想你知道 |
| 364 | There actually is already a lot of attention to it. | 实际上,已经有很多人关注这个问题。 |
| 365 | But you know, obviously I think with anything that's so | 但你知道,很明显,我想 用任何这样的 |
| 366 | Exciting and creates so much upside. | 令人兴奋和创造出如此多的颠倒。 |
| 367 | I think Sushant described as dystopian utopian or as a paradox | 我认为苏尚特形容为 dystopian乌托邦 或者一个悖论 |
| 368 | I do think that you know, we do need to better understand, you know, how we manage the the risk that this could bring | 我认为你知道,我们确实需要 更好地理解,你知道,我们如何管理 风险,这会带来 |
| 369 | I think this the cyber security risks are quite real, you know | 我觉得网络安全风险是真实的 |
| 370 | I think a lot of us a lot of users may be giving | 我觉得我们很多人 可能有很多用户在给 |
| 371 | Permissions to the agents to do a lot of things for them without really understanding | 授权特工们帮他们做很多事情 却又不理解 |
| 372 | Without really understanding what kind of permissions you've actually given if you give your agent, you know a credit card | 没有真正理解,如果你给了你的经纪人什么类型的许可, 你知道信用卡 |
| 373 | Permission and you ask him to buy some stuff, you know, it could it could be overly eager to deliver | 允许你让他买些东西, 你知道,它可能太急于送货了 |
| 374 | You know what you want to buy and I'm buying much more than you need | 你知道你想买什么 我买的比你需要的多 |
| 375 | I think you know, there's a lot of | 我觉得你知道,有很多 |
| 376 | There's a lot of education that needs to happen | 还有很多教育需要进行 |
| 377 | But you know when the digital world first came out I grew up in an era where the internet was not a thing | 但你知道当数码世界诞生的时候 我成长于一个 互联网不是东西的时代 |
| 378 | you know when I was when I was | 你知道当我是 当我是 |
| 379 | In primary school it really came about when I was a teenager | 在小学的时候,我十几岁的时候就真的有了 |
| 380 | And I remember, you know, my my parents were terrified of buying anything online terrified, you know | 我记得,你知道,我的父母 害怕购买任何 网上惊恐,你知道 |
| 381 | Over time, I mean e-commerce is clearly a thing now. | 随着时间的推移,我的意思是 电子商务现在显然是一个事情。 |
| 382 | You have a robust payment infrastructure that the DBS is also part of | 您拥有强大的支付基础设施,DBS也是其中的一部分 |
| 383 | part of building globally | 全球建设的一部分 |
| 384 | so I think that these these things will come in time, but for the moment in time, you know, there's still a lot of | 所以,我认为这些东西会及时到来, 但是现在,你知道,还有很多 |
| 385 | Education that needs to happen on that sort of risk now on the corporate side | 现在公司方面需要面对这种风险的教育 |
| 386 | I think the risk of you know, cyber security is definitely real, you know, one of them one of the | 网络安全绝对是真实的 其中之一 |
| 387 | One of the sort of I guess unspoken, you know | 那种我猜没有说,你知道 |
| 388 | Knowledge within within the anti-spam industry is that really you cannot reduce it to zero | 反垃圾邮件行业内部的知识是,你实际上不能把它降到零 |
| 389 | What you're trying to do is make it more too expensive for people to do, you know too much spam on your platform | 你想做的是让人们更昂贵, 你知道太多垃圾邮件在你的平台上 |
| 390 | But you know with a lot of these | 但你知道很多这些 |
| 391 | agentic models the cost of just creating a lot of | 代理模型的成本 仅仅创建很多 |
| 392 | that kind of | 那种东西 |
| 393 | Behavior has fallen dramatically | 行为急剧下降 |
| 394 | So you need the right tools to now, you know defend against a fast-falling cost of | 所以,你需要正确的工具 现在,你知道防御 快速下降的成本 |
| 395 | Creating problems for platforms like us security problems for us. | 为我们这样的平台制造问题 为我们制造安全问题 |
| 396 | So having to build those I think is going to take a little bit of time | 所以,必须建造那些 我认为需要一点时间 |
| 397 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 398 | So it sounds like again education so that we know how to use | 听起来又像是教育 这样我们才知道如何使用 |
| 399 | ai | (单位:千美元) |
| 400 | What to do what not to do? | 怎么办? |
| 401 | That's actually reinforcing what show shared with us much earlier on at the same time from corporate angle pay special attention to cyber security as well | 这其实是强化了 早些时候与我们分享的节目 同时从公司的角度 特别关注网络安全 |
| 402 | I mean, it's a lot. | 我的意思是,这是很多。 |
| 403 | We have to train our employees not to uh, you know write | 我们要训练员工,不要写 |
| 404 | for example | 举例来说, |
| 405 | Trade secrets onto a public chat bot, you know, you have to just tell them | 商业秘密在公共聊天机器人, 你知道,你只需要告诉他们 |
| 406 | This is not this is public and you have to tell them, you know | 这不是公开的 你得告诉他们 |
| 407 | There are certain privileged legal information that just you cannot this is not your lawyer, you know | 有些保密的法律信息... ...你不可能... ...这不是你的律师 |
| 408 | A chat bot is not really your lawyer. | 聊天机器人不是你的律师 |
| 409 | It doesn't give you legal, you know protection | 它不给你合法,你知道保护 |
| 410 | So there's a lot of that sort of, you know understanding | 所以有很多这样的,你知道的 |
| 411 | Uh because it's such a useful tool to have so people, you know, sometimes are over | 因为它是一个有用的工具 所以人,你知道,有时已经结束 |
| 412 | Enthusiastic about how they use it. | 对如何使用它充满了怀疑。 |
| 413 | So I think understanding, you know, where the boundaries of what is | 所以我认为理解,你知道, 什么是边界在哪里 |
| 414 | What is reasonable and acceptable use is important. | 合理和可接受的用途很重要。 |
| 415 | So maybe just | 所以也许只是 |
| 416 | As a wrap up as a final thing | 作为最后的结局 |
| 417 | There is a lot of talk obviously in more recent times about ai | 近来显然有很多关于ai的话题 |
| 418 | Being a threat to human beings because we are in a danger of it | 威胁人类,因为我们有危险 |
| 419 | Replacing or displacing human beings. | 置或迁人. |
| 420 | What are your thoughts about this? | 你对此有什么想法? |
| 421 | I mean we will see I think it may be a little bit too early to be uh to be too conclusive about this | 我的意思是,我们会看到,我觉得它可能有点太早 做呃太确定这一点 |
| 422 | You know on the one hand, I think we are the science the technology is not there yet | 你知道,一方面,我认为我们是科学 科技还没有到来 |
| 423 | The example that I hear a lot is our brain is 20 watts | 我听到很多的例子是我们的大脑是20瓦 |
| 424 | Our data center is in gigawatts | 我们的数据中心是千兆瓦 |
| 425 | Our brain can do things that you know, the model still cannot do my long-term memory retrieval for my brain is good | 我们的大脑可以做一些你知道的事情,模型仍然无法做我的长期记忆检索,因为我的大脑是好的 |
| 426 | I can go back to when I was a child | 我可以回到小时候 |
| 427 | I don't think you know the the large language models can do this easily at this moment in time | 我不认为你知道 大语言模型可以轻易做到这一点 在这个时候 |
| 428 | I can learn a lot visually | 我看得见很多东西 |
| 429 | I can look at something and learn a lot visually as a human being | 我可以看一些东西,学习很多 视觉作为一个人 |
| 430 | the models are still | 模型还在 |
| 431 | Well, I guess they're catching out, but they're still unable to learn certain things at my speed as a human being | 嗯,我猜他们正在赶上,但他们仍然不能 学习某些东西,以我的速度作为一个人 |
| 432 | so the the technology is evolving, but you you know | 技术在发展,但你知道 |
| 433 | You can see a world where? | 你可以看到一个世界在哪里? |
| 434 | Silicon is just superior to carbon | 硅比碳强 |
| 435 | You can't see a world, you know, it will it will last longer | 你看不到一个世界,你知道, 它会持续更长的时间 |
| 436 | You know, it's more scalable. | 你知道,它更可伸缩。 |
| 437 | It's easier to connect, you know information together than us human beings connecting information together | 连接起来比较容易 你比人类更了解信息 |
| 438 | so it is a non-zero chance that uh, you know, it is something that | 所以,这是一个非零的机会,呃,你知道,这是一件事, |
| 439 | could become | 可以变成 |
| 440 | Superior in certain aspects. | 在某些方面居上。 |
| 441 | Yeah | 对 |
| 442 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 443 | I I do agree that that obviously as with anything we have seen technology evolve over many generations | 我同意,这显然就像我们所看到的 科技在几代人中的发展 |
| 444 | Technology is not new | 技术不是新的 |
| 445 | And even with the evolution of technology, we always still find human beings | 即使科技的发展,我们仍会发现人类 |
| 446 | Right at center being augmented being able to do bigger things more things faster things | 中心正在增强 能够做更多事情 更快的事情 |
| 447 | So I guess it is exactly why in dbs we say we want to be an ai-enabled bank | 所以,我想这正是为什么 在Dbs我们说 我们希望成为一个AI的银行 |
| 448 | But with a heart the approach we've always taken | 但用心,我们一直采取的方法 |
| 449 | Is that we believe it is not about what ai will do to human beings | 我们是否相信这不是关于 AI会如何对待人类 |
| 450 | But rather what ai will do with human beings and what ai will do for human beings | 但反之Ai会如何对待人 以及Ai会如何对待人 |
| 451 | Just like the technology advancements we have seen since the industrial revolution and beyond | 就像工业革命以来的技术进步一样 |
| 452 | On that note show. | 在那张纸条上 |
| 453 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 454 | And thank you for your attention. | 谢谢你的注意 |
| 455 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 456 | Thank you | 谢谢 |
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