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0:06Idiots are everywhere.白痴到处都是
0:12Some people drive you right up the wall with their opinions, their attitudes, their politics.有些人用他们的观点、态度、政治 把你推到墙上
0:18I dealt with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years as a broadcast journalist.作为一名广播记者,我在20多年里处理过各种各样的人。
0:22Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations with whatever kind of difficult people you最终,我发现调和 艰难的谈话 与任何困难的人你
0:27just thought of kind of simple to do.只是觉得有点简单
0:30Not easy, but simple.不简单,但很简单。
0:32The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
0:36Closer.近一点
0:38Distance makes things worse.距离让事情更糟。
0:41I came up in public radio, trained by old school journalists who taught me the art of我上公共电台 接受过老派记者的训练 他教我艺术
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1Idiots are everywhere.白痴到处都是
2Some people drive you right up the wall with their opinions, their attitudes, their politics.有些人用他们的观点、态度、政治 把你推到墙上
3I dealt with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years as a broadcast journalist.作为一名广播记者,我在20多年里处理过各种各样的人。
4Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations with whatever kind of difficult people you最终,我发现调和 艰难的谈话 与任何困难的人你
5just thought of kind of simple to do.只是觉得有点简单
6Not easy, but simple.不简单,但很简单。
7The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
8Closer.近一点
9Distance makes things worse.距离让事情更糟。
10I came up in public radio, trained by old school journalists who taught me the art of我上公共电台 接受过老派记者的训练 他教我艺术
11neutrality.中立
12You neutralize your opinions, deaden your emotions, and you can get through most conversations你中和你的意见,死你的情绪, 你可以通过大多数的对话
13without rolling your eyes.不翻转你的眼睛。
14Generally, it worked, and it built me a strong reputation for fairness, but when the subject一般来说,它奏效了, 它为我树立了 强烈的声誉公平, 但当主体
15matter felt personal, neutrality felt phony.事物感到个人, 中立感到虚假。
16I used to host a national talk show on NPR called 1A, and in one of our early programs我以前在NPR上主持过一个全国脱口秀节目 叫"1A" 在我们早期的节目里
17I interviewed a descendant of Confederate soldiers.我采访了邦联士兵的后裔
18He argued that Confederate monuments should be historically preserved.他主张,邦联的纪念碑应该在历史上保存.
19Now, as a black man, I felt enormous pressure to remain neutral, so I decided I was just现在,作为一个黑人, 我感到巨大的压力 保持中立, 所以我决定我只是
20going to focus on his arguments instead of on him.将专注于他的论点而不是他。
21His logic felt kind of flimsy, and I called him on it, and eventually he just folded,他的逻辑感觉有点虚弱, 我打电话给他,最终他只是折叠,
22and he said, it really doesn't matter what I say.他说,我说什么都无所谓
23And the moment he said that, I knew I had failed.他这么说的那一刻 我就知道我失败了
24I may have had a point, but I missed a huge opportunity to really do my job.我可能说得有道理,但我错过了一个真正完成任务的绝好机会。
25See, my neutrality allowed me to interrogate his beliefs, but the distance prevented me你看,我的中立性让我审问他的信仰, 但距离阻止了我
26from seeing why he believed them.看他为什么相信他们
27What if I had asked better questions?如果我问了更好的问题呢?
28Like, who influenced you the most in forming these views?比如,谁在形成这些观点时影响你最多?
29Or, suppose we let all of these monuments and statues stand, just as they are.或者,假设我们让所有这些 纪念碑和雕像站立, 正如它们是什么。
30What would that mean to you?那对你意味着什么?
31Getting his story might have shown me him behind his canned arguments.获取他的故事 可能已经告诉我他背后 他的罐头辩论。
32Grilling him changed nothing.折磨他什么也改变不了
33It felt pointless.感觉毫无意义
34When you consider someone problematic, there's a better way to deal with them, keep your当你认为某人有问题时,有更好的办法对付他们,保持你的
35sanity, and maybe even connect.理智,甚至连络。
36And it sounds insane.这听起来很疯狂。
37Move closer.靠近点
38Not to embrace them, but to explore them, like a doctor studying a sample.不是要拥抱它们 而是要探索它们 就像一个研究样本的医生
39You need a microscope, not a telescope.你需要显微镜,不是望远镜
40Doctors actually helped me learn this way before I became a journalist.医生在成为记者之前 帮助我学了这个方法
41As a teenager, I was part of a summer program for future doctors, clearly it worked.作为一个青少年,我是未来医生暑期计划的一部分, 很明显是有效的。
42And I found myself working with clinicians studying cancer and thrombosis and HIV, very我发现自己和临床医生合作 研究癌症和血栓症和艾滋病毒
43serious conditions.病情严重
44I kind of naively expected them to be these crusading scientists, but they were just level我天真地希望他们能成为这些科学家,但他们只是水平
45headed people doing their jobs.领导人们做他们的工作。
46But there was a lesson in that level headedness.但在这个层次上有一个教训。
47See, I am not neutral about the cancers in our world.我对我们世界的癌症并不中立
48Bigotry, hoaxes, political violence, I want them gone.偏执 恶作剧 政治暴力 我要他们消失
49However, as a journalist, I often had to deal with them in my clinic, on the air.然而,作为一名记者,我经常不得不在我的诊所里与他们打交道,在电视上播放。
50I survived it by getting as close to those problems as I could and studying them like我通过尽可能接近那些问题 和研究它们来幸免于难
51samples in a Petri dish.佩特里菜里的样品
52In other words, I had to shift from neutrality to objectivity.换句话说,我不得不从中立转向客观。
53And no, they're not the same.不,他们不一样。
54Objectivity is just when you park your emotions and learn, without judgment.客观性只是当你不做判断地 将你的情绪 和学习。
55I don't have to like it, I'm just here to learn from it.我不必喜欢它,我只是在这里学习它。
56Neutrality negates your opinions, as if you have no judgments.中立否定了你的观点,好像你没有判断力。
57Does anyone here honestly believe I have no opinions on race?有人真的相信我对种族没有意见吗?
58Right.对
59Now, notice I said park your opinions.现在,注意,我说 停车你的意见。
60When you park your car, you don't abandon it in the garage, you're coming back for it.当你把车停在车库里时,你不会把它丢在车库里,你会回来找它.
61So you can choose when to focus inward on what you think, or outward on what you can learn.所以,你可以选择何时 专注于你的想法, 或外表可以学习。
62Of course, sometimes your car ain't where you left it, and maybe your opinions will当然,有时你的车不是你离开的地方, 也许你的意见会
63move too.动也.
64That maybe is why objectivity feels so vulnerable.也许这就是客观感到如此脆弱的原因。
65That's why it works.故能通达.
66That vulnerability is a sign of openness, and a conversation that's not open is pointless.这种脆弱性是开放的表现,而不公开的对话是毫无意义的.
67But, if you can stay open, amazing things can happen.但是,如果你可以保持开放, 惊人的事情会发生。
68Another time on NPR, I was interviewing a former Baltimore police officer who had become在NPR的另一段时间,我采访了一位前巴尔的摩警官,他成为了
69this fiery advocate for law enforcement reform.这个狂热的执法改革倡导者
70And he was going on and on, just the long rant in autopilot, just nyang, nyang, nyang.他不停地说,只是自动驾驶的长话短说, 只是nyang,nyang,nyang。
71And I was trying to stay objective and listening as best I could, when I thought I heard his我试图保持客观 并听尽我所能, 当我以为我听到他的
72voice waver just a little.声音有一点动摇
73And in that waver, I detected more than his rage.在那种动摇中,我发现的比他的愤怒还多.
74It sounded like trauma.这听起来像创伤。
75So near the end of the interview, I mentioned, hesitantly, that he seemed traumatized by采访快结束时 我犹豫地提到 他似乎被...
76his experiences as a cop, and could he reflect on that?他当警察的经历 他能思考一下吗?
77He said, I put people in prison cells who are better people than me.他说,我把人关进监狱 他们比我好。
78Whoa.珃
79Sure enough, he went right back to his talking points, but it didn't matter, because in当然,他回到他的谈话点 但没关系,因为...
80that moment, that sliver of his story, his defenses dropped, and he shifted from being那一刻,他的故事,他的辩护 下降,他从
81right to being real.成为现实的权利。
82Look, some people are just difficult, but we can deal with them more simply.听着,有些人只是很困难 但我们可以更简单地处理他们
83Here are three tips to get you started.这里有三个提示让你开始。
84First, get the story, particularly the key decisions and the turning points.第一,了解情况,特别是关键决定和转折点。
85What someone believes is not as important as how they chose to believe it.有人相信的不是他们选择相信的那么重要
86Second, my NPR host pro tip, keep your questions short.第二,我的NPR主持人 专业小费,让你的问题简短。
87Ten seconds tops.十秒钟以上。
88Long questions can feel like a setup or like you're rambling.长的问题可以感觉像一个陷害 或者像你在胡闹。
89And third, use that mental microscope.第三,用那个显微镜
90Look as closely as you can.仔细看
91Remember, you don't have to like it, but learn from it.记住,你不必喜欢它, 但学习它。
92It is time to reconnect, even to the people you can't stand.是时候重新联结了 即使你无法忍受的人
93But this time, we're going to make those connections count.但这次,我们要把这些连接计算在内。
94You could learn a lot from an idiot, especially if you resolve never to act like one.你可以从一个白痴那里学到很多东西 特别是如果你决心永远不要像个白痴
95I really appreciate y'all making time for me today.我真的很感激你们今天给我时间
96Thank you for listening.谢谢你的聆听
97Bye, everybody.再见,各位
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