德国总理默茨全英文对话黄仁勋：AI 下半场是机器人，传统制造
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:03 | Thank you, Chancellor, for this welcoming address. | 感谢你的欢迎辞 |
| 0:05 | You may already take a seat on the right-hand side. | 你可以坐在右手边了 |
| 0:09 | Bring the wine. | 带酒来. |
| 0:12 | It is now my pleasure to introduce to you someone who you can already see. | 现在,我很高兴介绍一个你已经见过的人。 |
| 0:19 | He's someone very special, one of the most influential figures in tech. | 他是技术界最有影响力的人物之一 |
| 0:25 | He has co-founded NVIDIA in 1993, | 他于1993年共同创立了NVIDIA. |
| 0:28 | led it ever since, built it into the most valuable company in the world. | 从那时起领导它,把它建成世界上最有价值的公司. |
| 0:31 | Last time I checked, right? | 上次我检查,对不对? |
| 0:33 | More than five trillion, not billion, trillion US dollars. | 五万亿以上,不计十亿,万亿元. |
| 0:38 | And along the way, he has earned a reputation as a kind of rock star of tech, | 一路走来 他赢得了科技界的名声 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 1 | Thank you, Chancellor, for this welcoming address. | 感谢你的欢迎辞 |
| 2 | You may already take a seat on the right-hand side. | 你可以坐在右手边了 |
| 3 | Bring the wine. | 带酒来. |
| 4 | It is now my pleasure to introduce to you someone who you can already see. | 现在,我很高兴介绍一个你已经见过的人。 |
| 5 | He's someone very special, one of the most influential figures in tech. | 他是技术界最有影响力的人物之一 |
| 6 | He has co-founded NVIDIA in 1993, | 他于1993年共同创立了NVIDIA. |
| 7 | led it ever since, built it into the most valuable company in the world. | 从那时起领导它,把它建成世界上最有价值的公司. |
| 8 | Last time I checked, right? | 上次我检查,对不对? |
| 9 | More than five trillion, not billion, trillion US dollars. | 五万亿以上,不计十亿,万亿元. |
| 10 | And along the way, he has earned a reputation as a kind of rock star of tech, | 一路走来 他赢得了科技界的名声 |
| 11 | not only because of his trademark leather jacket, | 不仅因为他的商标皮夹克, |
| 12 | but because wherever he goes, crowds gather and are waiting for an autograph or a selfie. | 但无论他走到哪里, 人群聚集 等待签名或自拍。 |
| 13 | We might just be so lucky tonight, Mr. Chancellor. | 我们今晚可能很幸运 首相先生 |
| 14 | And I do hope you don't take this as a prompt. | 我希望你别把这当做是急事 |
| 15 | Don't rush the stage, but please give a very warm welcome to Jensen Huang. | 别急着上台,但请热烈欢迎黄詹森. |
| 16 | Welcome to Germany. | 欢迎来到德国。 |
| 17 | I can see you're already getting comfortable for our fireside chat. | 我看得出来你已经适应了 我们的火边聊天 |
| 18 | Also a bartender. | 还有酒保 |
| 19 | Well, Chancellor, if you could swap jobs with Jensen for just a day, | 首相 如果你能和詹森换一天工作 |
| 20 | what would you do first, you think? | 你觉得你首先会怎么做? |
| 21 | Oh, that's a great idea, to swap the jobs. | 哦,这是一个好主意,换工作。 |
| 22 | Would you like to go there? | 你想去那里吗? |
| 23 | No. | 没有 |
| 24 | Well... | 这个... |
| 25 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 26 | I give you my answer. | 我给你我的答案。 |
| 27 | I rather would put my leather jacket on. | 我宁愿穿上皮夹克 |
| 28 | I would take a flight to Berlin. | 我会搭飞机去柏林 |
| 29 | I would like to see the German Chancellor, | 我想见德国总理 |
| 30 | and I will tell him I'm ready to invest. | 我会告诉他我已经准备好投资了 |
| 31 | Well, that's exactly what I'm doing. | 嗯,这正是我在做什么。 |
| 32 | I think we could arrange a meeting. | 我想我们可以安排个会议 |
| 33 | No, nobody has invested more in Germany. | 不,没有人在德国投资更多。 |
| 34 | Thank you for that. | 谢谢你 |
| 35 | We are really grateful. | 我们真的很感激。 |
| 36 | Thank you for doing this. | 谢谢你 |
| 37 | And this is a great signal for our country. | 这对我国来说是一个伟大的信号。 |
| 38 | Yeah, thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 39 | You know, NVIDIA story and Germany story played a very large role. | 你知道,NVIDIA的故事和德国的故事 起了很大的作用。 |
| 40 | In fact, in the year 2000, NVIDIA was a consumer oriented technology. | 事实上,2000年,NVIDIA是面向消费者的技术。 |
| 41 | We were only building for PC gaming. | 我们只是做个人电脑游戏 |
| 42 | And it was a company in Germany, ELSA, | 是德国的一家公司ELSA |
| 43 | that partnership led us into workstations, | 那伙伴关系让我们进入工作站, |
| 44 | which led us into all of the car companies. | 这导致我们进入所有汽车公司。 |
| 45 | And today, we work with the car companies from styling, design, | 今天,我们与汽车公司合作 从造型,设计, |
| 46 | engineering, simulation, manufacturing, all the way out to the cars. | 工程,模拟,制造, 一路到汽车。 |
| 47 | It was in 2005 that Audi brought us into the car industry, inside the car. | 2005年奥迪把我们带到汽车行业,汽车内部. |
| 48 | And it was 2023. | 当时是2023年. |
| 49 | Was it 2023? | 是2023年吗? |
| 50 | 2020? | 2020年吗? |
| 51 | Yeah, 2020, that Ola and I established a partnership to build autonomous vehicles. | 是的,2020年,那个奥拉和我建立了伙伴关系 建造自主车辆。 |
| 52 | And so, Germany and NVIDIA has been very close for a long time. | 因此,德国和NVIDIA在很长一段时间里关系非常密切. |
| 53 | Johnson, I think I already heard that you wouldn't like to swap jobs. | 约翰逊,我想我已经听说你不想换工作了 |
| 54 | So, I won't even get there asking you what you would do as a chancellor. | 所以,我甚至不会到那里去 问你会做什么 作为一个院长。 |
| 55 | We let you be you for now. | 我们让你成为你现在。 |
| 56 | And I suspect you can already picture things that we might not even imagine yet. | 我怀疑你已经可以想象到 我们甚至无法想象的事情 |
| 57 | So, take us into an engineering office or a factory of the future. | 所以,带我们进入工程办公室或未来的工厂。 |
| 58 | What do you see? | 你看见什么了? |
| 59 | What is this going to look like? | 这看起来像什么? |
| 60 | That's interesting. | 这很有趣。 |
| 61 | In fact, the factory, every single company in the future will have two factories. | 事实上,工厂,未来每个公司都会有两家工厂. |
| 62 | The factory that is real and the factory that is digital. | 真实的工厂 数字化的工厂 |
| 63 | And the factory that is digital will be so real, it might as be real. | 而数字化的工厂会变得如此真实, 它可能是真实的。 |
| 64 | If it manifests itself when you create the digital twin of your company, of your car company, | 如果你创建了你的公司 和你的汽车公司的数字双胞胎 |
| 65 | that digital twin might as well be real. | 那个数字双胞胎可能也是真实的 |
| 66 | And so, in the future, I believe that most people here in Germany | 所以,在未来,我相信,德国的大多数人 |
| 67 | will mostly work inside a digital twin of their company. | 大部分工作 在他们公司的数字双胞胎。 |
| 68 | They will build digital cars. | 他们将建造数码汽车。 |
| 69 | Those cars will have digital brains. | 这些车会有数码脑。 |
| 70 | The manufacturing, the factories will have digital, | 制造,工厂将拥有数字化, |
| 71 | of course, artificial intelligence robots, | 当然,人工智能机器人, |
| 72 | building inside a robotic factory, building cars that will be robotic. | 建造机器人工厂 制造机器人汽车 |
| 73 | And everything will be completely software driven. | 一切都会完全由软件驱动。 |
| 74 | Everything will be completely AI driven. | 一切将完全由AI驱动。 |
| 75 | So, every company will build two things. | 所以,每个公司都会建造两件东西。 |
| 76 | They will build brains and the brains that go into the products that they ship. | 他们将建立大脑和大脑 进入他们运送的产品。 |
| 77 | And so, it's going to be cool. | 所以,这将是很酷的。 |
| 78 | Chancellor, of course, the ambition is to bring AI into everyday use | 当然,总理的雄心是让AI投入日常使用 |
| 79 | across German industry, from large manufacturers, | 整个德国工业,从大型制造商, |
| 80 | Mittelstand for also small companys. 米特尔站给小公司。 | |
| 81 | Could you perhaps share a few concrete examples of how you and the German government | 请大家分享你和德国政府的具体例子 |
| 82 | are ensuring that this widespread deployment is actually taking place? | 是否确保这种广泛的部署实际上正在发生? |
| 83 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 84 | First of all, I would like to say that I'm really impressed | 首先,我想说,我真的印象深刻 |
| 85 | what NVIDIA and German companies are already doing in this country. | NVIDIA和德国公司 已经在这个国家做的。 |
| 86 | Ola Kellenius just handed out a model from the new S-Class of Mercedes to me, | Ola Kelenius刚把奔驰的新S级的模型交给我 |
| 87 | promising that this car will be autonomous driving in Germany by the end of this year. | 保证本车在今年年底在德国实现自主驾驶. |
| 88 | Safest and the most autonomous. | 最安全和最自主的。 |
| 89 | So, this is happening in Germany. | 所以,这是发生在德国。 |
| 90 | So, we are, in the government, we are fully committed | 所以,我们,在政府中, 我们完全承诺 |
| 91 | to be one of the most advanced places in the world, not just in the European Union, | 作为世界上最先进的地方之一 不仅仅是在欧洲联盟, |
| 92 | but in the world to work with AI, to integrate AI into our industry. | 但是在世界上与AI合作, 将AI融入我们的产业。 |
| 93 | And one of the biggest, if not the biggest advantage we have in Germany | 也是我们德国最大的优势之一 |
| 94 | 是我们所谓的Mittelstand。 | |
| 95 | And I'm very happy to see that we are having here tonight | 我很高兴看到我们今晚在这里 |
| 96 | many smaller and medium sized companies from Germany. | 许多来自德国的中小型公司。 |
| 97 | Please open your doors for AI to make use of your data. | 请打开门让AI使用你的数据. |
| 98 | This is so decisive for the German future. | 这对德国的未来是如此决定性. |
| 99 | This is a real secret and a real advantage for Germany to use, | 这是一个真正的秘密 和真正的优势 德国使用, |
| 100 | to make use of all the data which are already available in our companies. | 利用我们公司已经掌握的所有数据。 |
| 101 | And if we could combine this AI with companies like yours | 如果我们能把人工智能和你的公司结合起来 |
| 102 | and our companies in Germany, the big ones, but also the so-called Mittelstand, | 和我们在德国的公司,大的公司, 以及所谓的Mittelstand, |
| 103 | I'm really optimistic that we will be one of the leading, | 我非常乐观,我们将会是领先者之一, |
| 104 | if not the leading country in the world in terms of spread AI | 如果不是世界领先国家 |
| 105 | for all the companies of our manufacturers, machinery, automotive industry, | 我们的制造商、机器、汽车工业的所有公司 |
| 106 | supplies of automotive industry. | 汽车工业用品。 |
| 107 | I think this is a great opportunity and I'm decided to meet that. | 我认为这是一个很好的机会,我决定满足它。 |
| 108 | Yeah, you're absolutely right. | 是啊,你绝对是对的。 |
| 109 | So, first of all, the data of Germany is part of your natural resources. | 首先,德国的数据是你们自然资源的一部分。 |
| 110 | It belongs to the nation. | 属于国家. |
| 111 | The data of your, the digital experience or otherwise known as data, | 你的数据,数字经验 或者其他被称为数据, |
| 112 | the data of your country is your culture, your values, your knowledge, your experience. | 贵国的数据是你们的文化、价值观、知识、经验。 |
| 113 | It's your natural resource. | 这是你的自然资源。 |
| 114 | It belongs to the nation. | 属于国家. |
| 115 | And you're absolutely right that you should import the technology | 你绝对是对的,你应该进口技术 |
| 116 | to harvest that data and turn it into your national intelligence. | 把它变成你的国家情报 |
| 117 | But you should not export your culture, export your values, export your knowledge, | 但你不应该输出你的文化 输出你的值 输出你的知识 |
| 118 | export your history, and then import German intelligence back. | 输出您的历史, 然后导入德国情报。 |
| 119 | Makes no sense. | 没道理 |
| 120 | So that's number one. | 所以这是第一。 |
| 121 | And so you're going to, of course, use the best AI technology available | 所以,你当然要使用 最好的AI技术 |
| 122 | in the world and AI services in the world, but you have every capability | 在世界和AI服务 在世界上, 但你拥有所有的能力 |
| 123 | to build your own AI. | 建立你自己的AI。 |
| 124 | So that's number one. | 所以这是第一。 |
| 125 | The second is the next wave of AI is physical AI. | 第二个是下一波AI是物理AI. |
| 126 | This is where AI interacts with the physical world. | 这就是AI与物理世界互动的地方. |
| 127 | Robotics, manufacturing, cars, heavy industry. | 机器人,制造,汽车,重工业. |
| 128 | That will never be replaced by digital technology. | 这永远不会被数字技术所取代。 |
| 129 | The work that you know belongs, that knowledge belongs to you. | 你知道的工作属于你 知识属于你 |
| 130 | The expertise of your domain, that belongs to you. | 属于你的专长 |
| 131 | Artificial general intelligence will never replace domain expertise. | 人工一般智能永远不会取代域域专业知识. |
| 132 | You could be as smart of a general intelligence as you want. | 你可以像你想的那样聪明 |
| 133 | You will never be as smart as somebody who is very, very specialized | 你永远不会像一个非常,非常专业的人那样聪明 |
| 134 | in a particular field of electromechanical technology. | 在特定的机电技术领域。 |
| 135 | It cannot be replaced. | 它不能被替换。 |
| 136 | And so AI can only augment your capability. | 所以人工智能只能增强你的能力 |
| 137 | It will not replace your capability. | 它不会取代你的能力。 |
| 138 | So take advantage of the technology. | 因此利用技术。 |
| 139 | It's a new instrument. | 新乐器. |
| 140 | As for some of these advantages, Janssen, we have, on the one hand, | 至于其中一些优势,扬森,我们一方面, |
| 141 | decades of industrial data. | 几十年的工业数据。 |
| 142 | We have very skilled labor, if you like. | 如果你愿意,我们有非常熟练的劳动力。 |
| 143 | We have the engineering expertise. | 我们有工程专家 |
| 144 | So this certainly, as you seem to point out, | 因此,这当然, 正如你似乎指出, |
| 145 | speaks for a lot of advantages for Germany. | 代表了德国的许多优势. |
| 146 | You have a global perspective. | 你有一个全球视角。 |
| 147 | However, there are other countries that also have strengths, | 然而,还有其他一些国家也有优势, |
| 148 | that also like to take advantage of their strengths. | 也喜欢利用他们的优势。 |
| 149 | You talk to so many governments across the globe, | 你和全世界很多政府交谈 |
| 150 | to so many companies across the world. | 给全世界很多公司 |
| 151 | If you take this global perspective, | 如果你从全球角度出发 |
| 152 | how is Germany braced for this next race in AI? | 德国如何在AI的下一场比赛中站稳脚跟? |
| 153 | As you know, the last major industrial revolution was electrification, | 正如你们所知,最后一场工业大革命是电气化, |
| 154 | before the one I'll describe. | 在我描述之前 |
| 155 | Electrification resulted in really three geographical leaders, | 电气化导致三个地理领袖, |
| 156 | Germany, United States, Japan. | 德国、美国、日本。 |
| 157 | For the last 50 years, because of the current industrial revolution, | 过去50年,由于目前的工业革命, |
| 158 | which is computing and digital technology, | 是计算和数字技术, |
| 159 | United States has largely exported its heavy manufacturing, | 美国主要出口其重型制造业, |
| 160 | its building, its craft, really, to China. | 它的建筑,它的工艺,真的,中国。 |
| 161 | So now the world has three again. | 故今世间复有三. |
| 162 | But it's Germany, Japan, and China. | 但是是德国,日本和中国. |
| 163 | The advantage that China has is that they came into their industrial revolution, | 中国的优势是 他们进入了他们的工业革命, |
| 164 | their economic transformation happened during precisely the time of the computer industry. | 他们的经济转型 恰恰发生在计算机工业时期 |
| 165 | They are quite computerized. | 它们相当电脑化。 |
| 166 | China is probably the only nation today that is deep in manufacturing | 中国可能是今天唯一一个 深陷制造业的国家 |
| 167 | and deep in computer science and very comfortable in both. | 并深入计算机科学 和非常舒适的两者。 |
| 168 | Well, the good news is there's a complete reset. | 嗯,好消息是有一个完整的重置。 |
| 169 | The last 50 years was about software programming. | 过去50年是关于软件编程的. |
| 170 | United States is obviously world class. | 美国显然是世界级的。 |
| 171 | But there's a new era now. | 但是现在有了一个新时代. |
| 172 | The computer programs itself. | 电脑程序本身。 |
| 173 | You just have to show the computer what you want. | 你只需要向电脑展示你想要的 |
| 174 | Computer programming, all of the advantages of the last generation | 电脑编程,上一代的所有优点 |
| 175 | has now been accrued into artificial intelligence. | 现已积累为人工智能。 |
| 176 | There's a complete reset. | 有完整的重置. |
| 177 | All the digital technology in the world will not replace | 世界上所有的数字技术不会取代 |
| 178 | electromechanical physical technology. | 机电物理技术. |
| 179 | Electrons will never replace atoms. | 电压永远不会取代原子. |
| 180 | And that's an advantage that you have. | 这就是你的优势 |
| 181 | The work, you know, the domain expertise you have, the craft that is here. | 作品,你知道的,你拥有的领域专长, 以及这里的工艺。 |
| 182 | It will remain here. | 它将留在这。 |
| 183 | But you have to take advantage of this new technology. | 但你必须利用这种新技术。 |
| 184 | This industrial revolution is so mighty, is so powerful. | 这场工业革命非常强大,非常强大. |
| 185 | You don't have another chance because you always... | 你没机会了 因为你总是... |
| 186 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 187 | Whether we have another chance or not, we should always assume we don't. | 不管我们是否有其他机会, 我们总是应该假设我们没有。 |
| 188 | This transition is so important. | 这一过渡非常重要。 |
| 189 | You should combine your deep skills, your deep expertise | 你应该结合你深厚的技巧,深厚的专长 |
| 190 | in the physical products, in the electromechanical products, | 在物理产品中,在机电产品中, |
| 191 | and combine it with artificial intelligence. | 并将其与人工智能结合. |
| 192 | I would not be surprised if currently most of the middlestads, | 如果现在大多数中间施塔德人 |
| 193 | their challenges are reduction in labor because people are getting old. | 他们的挑战是减少劳动力,因为人们老了。 |
| 194 | The craft of that is captured in the knowledge, the skills of the people | 掌握在人们的知识、技能中 |
| 195 | are still, are starting to get older and older every generation. | 年龄越来越老化了 |
| 196 | Take advantage of artificial intelligence. | 利用人工智能. |
| 197 | Let them codify. | 让他们来编纂 |
| 198 | Let them program. | 让他们编程吧 |
| 199 | Let them teach this artificial intelligence and keep it here in Germany. | 让他们教这个人工智能 并把它留在德国。 |
| 200 | And let it re-engineer the Chancellor's words. | 并任重修丞相言. |
| 201 | Chancellor's words. | 总理之言. |
| 202 | Re-engineer Germany. | 重修德国. |
| 203 | This is your chance to do it. | 这是你的机会 |
| 204 | Well, I think it's become obvious. | 我觉得这已经很明显了 |
| 205 | The requisites to scale industrial AI in Germany are here | 德国工业AI规模化的必要条件就在这里 |
| 206 | and they are very promising and the opportunities related to it are impressive. | 它们很有希望,与之相关的机遇令人印象深刻。 |
| 207 | It will be key, of course, Chancellor, to bridge the gap between innovation | 当然,总理,弥合创新之间的鸿沟是关键 |
| 208 | and implementation in factories and in value chains. | 在工厂和价值链中实施。 |
| 209 | Is a cooperation with Nvidia a part of the plan to do so? | 与Nvidia的合作是否是计划的一部分? |
| 210 | Yeah, sure. | 当然 |
| 211 | And this is already happening. | 这已经发生了。 |
| 212 | And I would like to say that I'm extremely grateful about what we have just heard | 我想说,我非常感谢 我们刚才听到的 |
| 213 | from this business leader of the world in terms of AI. | 在AI方面来自这个世界商业领袖. |
| 214 | So you are giving me and hopefully us a great optimism about our business model | 所以,你给我,希望我们 对我们的商业模式非常乐观 |
| 215 | in Germany. | 在德国。 |
| 216 | And you might know that I'm always insisting that we have to remain a country | 你也许知道 我总是坚持我们必须保持一个国家 |
| 217 | with manufacturing and we should never give up that. | 我们不应该放弃制造 |
| 218 | And now we are seeing a great opportunity in combining our experiences | 而现在我们看到一个很好的机会 结合我们的经验 |
| 219 | with manufacturing and AI. | 与制造和AI。 |
| 220 | So if we are successful in bringing these two aspects and parts of the business | 所以,如果我们成功地 带来了这两个方面和部分 业务 |
| 221 | of the future together, I'm really very optimistic that Germany can be one | 我非常乐观,德国可以成为一个 |
| 222 | of the most successful economies in the world because we are already, | 世界上最成功的经济体,因为我们已经, |
| 223 | we are still the third biggest economy in the world. | 我们仍然是世界上第三大经济体。 |
| 224 | So thank you for telling us what the opportunity is and comparing us with others. | 因此,感谢你告诉我们什么是机遇,并将我们与其他人进行比较。 |
| 225 | And I believe and I share your view that the Americans made a big mistake | 我相信,我同意你的观点 美国人犯了一个大错误 |
| 226 | to export their manufacturing. | 出口他们的制造业。 |
| 227 | And now they are faced with a very small, successful, but very small based industry. | 现在它们面临着一个非常小的,成功的,但基础非常小的工业. |
| 228 | And this is our advantage to have this broader access and broader approach | 这就是我们拥有这种更广泛的机会和更广泛的方法的优势 |
| 229 | to the future of our industry. | 为了我们这个行业的未来 |
| 230 | And look, I'm a large American company and we have incredible partnerships here | 你看,我是一个大型的美国公司, 我们在这里有难以置信的伙伴关系 |
| 231 | in Germany for good reason. | 在德国是有道理的 |
| 232 | It's good for us. | 对我们有好处 |
| 233 | Our partnership with Audi led to our partnership with Mercedes. | 我们和奥迪的伙伴关系 导致了我们和梅赛德斯的伙伴关系。 |
| 234 | Our partnership with Mercedes led to our investment in robotics, | 我们和梅赛德斯的伙伴关系 导致了我们对机器人的投资 |
| 235 | which led to our partnership with Agile Robots. | 这导致了我们与Agile机器人公司的伙伴关系。 |
| 236 | We just made an investment in them. | 我们刚刚投资了它们。 |
| 237 | We made an investment in Avelios, made an investment in Murillo, | 我们在艾薇莉欧斯投资 在穆里略投资 |
| 238 | made an investment in Reflex Aerospace. | 在Reflex航空航天公司投资 |
| 239 | Last year we made an investment in Black Forest Labs. | 去年我们投资了黑森林实验室 |
| 240 | Here in Germany, you have deep science and technology and deep science and math, | 在德国,你拥有深厚的科学技术 深厚的科学和数学 |
| 241 | which are the fundamentals for manufacturing, for the deep sciences, | 这些是制造和深科学的基础 |
| 242 | for artificial intelligence. | 为人工智能。 |
| 243 | And so there's so much technical expertise and there's so much deep science and deep math. | 因此,有如此多的技术专长, 和如此深厚的科学和深厚的数学。 |
| 244 | The one thing that you said also is that you believed in a policy of advancing | 你说的一件事是 你相信推进政策 |
| 245 | and encouraging AI startups or startups in general. | 并普遍鼓励AI创业或创业。 |
| 246 | I think that's fantastic. | 我觉得这太棒了。 |
| 247 | One of the things that I really love about the United States, of course, | 我非常喜欢美国 |
| 248 | is that we constantly reinvigorate, we constantly reinvent ourselves. | 就是我们不断振兴,不断改造自己。 |
| 249 | And the way we do that is through all the entrepreneurs. | 我们这样做的方式是通过所有企业家。 |
| 250 | And so one of the things that I really love to see, | 所以有一件事 我真的很喜欢看到, |
| 251 | we've invested tremendously in Germany. | 我们在德国投资巨大 |
| 252 | In the last year, we've invested almost a billion dollars. | 去年,我们投资了近10亿美元。 |
| 253 | This week, we're investing in four new companies. | 本周投资四家新公司. |
| 254 | And so in a lot of ways, we are one of the largest VCs in Germany, | 所以从很多方面来说 我们是德国最大的越共之一 |
| 255 | because I believe in Germany. | 因为我相信德国 |
| 256 | And so for all of the other venture capitalists, you better hurry, | 所以对于其他风险投资家来说 你最好快点 |
| 257 | because otherwise I'm going to take all the good deals and I'm going to be rich. | 否则我会接受所有的好交易 我会发财 |
| 258 | And so the important thing is that the thing I want to recognize | 所以重要的是,我想认识的东西 |
| 259 | is that the science and technology capability of Germany is just second to none. | 德国的科学和技术能力仅次于无。 |
| 260 | We have a thousand employees here. | 这里有一千名员工 |
| 261 | We have a fantastic office here in Berlin. | 我们在柏林有个很棒的办公室 |
| 262 | Some of the fundamental inventions of our companies | 我们公司的一些基本发明 |
| 263 | came from our office here in Berlin in Germany. | 来自我们在德国柏林的办公室 |
| 264 | And so you want to invest here. | 所以你想在这里投资。 |
| 265 | Incredible people. | 不可思议的人。 |
| 266 | May I ask a question? | 我能问你个问题吗? |
| 267 | Could you give us an advice on regulation? | 你能给我们一个关于监管的建议吗? |
| 268 | We are having a very strong debate in Brussels on the European level compared to the US. | 我们在布鲁塞尔就欧洲层面与美国相比进行了非常激烈的辩论。 |
| 269 | What is the best way to regulate this industry or this new technology? | 管理这个行业或这个新技术的最佳办法是什么? |
| 270 | I think we agree on no regulation is not the right answer. | 我认为,我们一致认为,任何条例都不是正确的答案。 |
| 271 | Too tight regulation is not the right answer either. | 监管过于严格也不是正确的答案。 |
| 272 | But what is, from your view, the right answer in terms of keeping the potential damage in mind | 但是,在你看来,什么是正确答案 在牢记潜在损害方面 |
| 273 | that this could happen and already happened? | 有可能发生 并且已经发生? |
| 274 | So what is your advice on regulation? | 那你对监管有什么建议? |
| 275 | What can we do better than others? | 我们能比别人做得更好吗? |
| 276 | Safety is paramount. | 安全至关重要。 |
| 277 | There is no future for this industry without safe products, | 没有安全产品,这个行业没有未来 |
| 278 | just as there's no future in autonomous vehicles if the vehicles are not safe. | 如果这些车辆不安全,那么在自主车辆中就没有前途。 |
| 279 | And so it is not a choice. | 所以这不是一个选择。 |
| 280 | You don't choose between safety and capability. | 你不能在安全与能力之间做出选择 |
| 281 | They are one. | 他们是其中之一。 |
| 282 | They have to go together. | 他们必须一起去 |
| 283 | And so three pillars. | 故三根柱头. |
| 284 | The first is you can't regulate if there's no technology. | 第一,如果没有技术,就无法调节. |
| 285 | So the technology industry must invent the technology for safety. | 因此技术产业必须发明安全技术. |
| 286 | Just as Ola and I had to invent the technology | 就像我和奥拉发明了技术一样 |
| 287 | and we have the safest autonomous vehicle in the world. | 我们有世界上最安全的自主车辆 |
| 288 | We have to invent the technology that allows you to achieve the functionality you want to see, | 我们必须发明技术 让你实现你想要看到的功能 |
| 289 | but also the guarantee of functional safety and active safety we want to deliver. | 同时也保证我们想要实现的功能安全和主动安全。 |
| 290 | And so that requires invention of technology. | 所以这需要技术的发明。 |
| 291 | That's the first pillar. | 即为第一柱. |
| 292 | But that's something that Germany is incredibly good at. | 但这是德国非常擅长的 |
| 293 | Your science, your math, your technology is incredibly good. | 你的科技,你的数学,你的技术都非常好 |
| 294 | You have to invent the technology of safety. | 你必须发明安全技术。 |
| 295 | Safety is not hopes and dreams. | 安全不是希望和梦想。 |
| 296 | Safety is technology and engineering. | 安全是技术和工程。 |
| 297 | Second, the companies need to have best practices. | 第二,公司需要具备最佳做法。 |
| 298 | Sometimes the young companies, they're still trying to grow up | 年轻公司有时还在努力成长 |
| 299 | and they make maybe more mistakes than they should. | 他们犯的错可能比他们应该犯的多 |
| 300 | We need to make sure that companies deliver on the best practices, best methods. | 我们需要确保公司提供最佳做法和最佳方法。 |
| 301 | And even in safety, as many of the people in the audience, | 即使是在安全, 许多人在观众, |
| 302 | there are probably many in the automotive industry, | 汽车行业可能有很多人 |
| 303 | you know that safety is deep methodology, deep best practices, deep engineering. | 你知道安全是深层方法 深层最佳做法 深层工程 |
| 304 | And that methodology has to be adhered to. | 必须坚持这一方法。 |
| 305 | And then lastly, there's industrial and government regulations. | 最后,还有工业和政府规章。 |
| 306 | If it turns out that, and remember, AI is two things. | 如果结果是这样,记住,AI是两件事。 |
| 307 | Just as the internet, regulating the internet is hard, | 就像互联网一样,监管互联网很困难, |
| 308 | but regulating internet applications is not so hard. | 但管理互联网应用并不难。 |
| 309 | We should be regulating the applications right away. | 我们应该马上管理申请 |
| 310 | And so if there are AI technologies that you see that's being applied to a new type of product | 因此,如果有AI技术,你看到它正在被应用到一种新型产品上 |
| 311 | that is not covered by the existing regulatory bodies, | (b) 现有管理机构未涵盖的, |
| 312 | they have to evaluate as soon as possible and make sure that their regulation includes AI. | 它们必须尽快评估并确保它们的条例包括大赦国际。 |
| 313 | And I think I've also heard you say that you want to find that balance | 我想我也听到你说你想找到平衡 |
| 314 | between innovation and regulation. | 创新与监管之间。 |
| 315 | There's nothing to regulate if the industry doesn't thrive. | 如果工业不兴旺,没有什么可以调节的. |
| 316 | You want the German AI industry to thrive as well as do it safely, responsibly. | 你希望德国的AI产业 也能安全地 负责任地发展起来 |
| 317 | So I think the balance is really important to do. | 所以我认为平衡很重要。 |
| 318 | And so I think that the answer is we know there's technology we can invent and deploy in order to have AI safety. | 因此,我认为答案是 我们知道有技术 我们可以发明和部署 以获得AI的安全。 |
| 319 | We know that there are best practices that we can adhere to as companies and industries. | 我们知道,我们作为公司和行业可以坚持一些最佳做法。 |
| 320 | And then in addition to that, if necessary, we'll make sure we regulate. | 除此之外,如果必要的话,我们将确保我们规范。 |
| 321 | Just briefly, Chancellor, what would be your answer to the same question? | 简而言之,总理,你对同一个问题有什么答案? |
| 322 | Maybe very briefly. | 也许非常短暂。 |
| 323 | No, thank you. | 不 谢谢 |
| 324 | This was extremely helpful because we are talking about that on the European level. | 这是极为有益的,因为我们在欧洲一级谈论这个问题。 |
| 325 | We are talking that on the national level. | 我们在国家一级谈到这一点。 |
| 326 | And my approach is that we at least need the European level and better we have a global level of regulation | 我的方法是,我们至少需要欧洲层面, 更好的是,我们有全球层面的监管 |
| 327 | and of safety for this fantastic new technology. | 以及这个神奇新技术的安全。 |
| 328 | So this is my personal view. | 这就是我个人的看法。 |
| 329 | But we are still far from that because we are having a different approach between the Americans and the Europeans. | 但是,我们距离这一点还很远,因为我们对美国人和欧洲人采取了不同的做法。 |
| 330 | But we are working on that. | 但我们正在努力。 |
| 331 | And most in this room know that I was successful to get the AI regulation out of the normal regulation of AI in the European Union | 而在这个房间里大多数人都知道,我成功地将AI的条例从欧盟的AI的正常条例中解脱出来. |
| 332 | and to have a special regulation for the machinery industry in Germany and not part being part of the general AI | 对德国的机械工业实行特殊管理,而不是作为一般AI的一部分; |
| 333 | limitation and regulation. | 限制和管制。 |
| 334 | So this was a big achievement which we had. | 因此,这是一个巨大的成就。 |
| 335 | Give Germany a chance. | 给德国一个机会 |
| 336 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 337 | Give this industry a chance to. | 给这个行业一个机会 |
| 338 | And just finally, very, very briefly, Chancellor, if Jensen came back in a year's time, | 最后,非常,非常简短,总理 如果詹森一年后回来 |
| 339 | which we very much hope, what would you hope for him to see? | 我们非常希望他能看到什么? |
| 340 | I would like to see him regularly, let's say at least once a year and discussing progresses we made | 我想经常见到他,让我们说至少一年一次 讨论我们取得的进展 |
| 341 | and seeing a guy sitting in my office and being extremely happy about the German investment place. | 看到一个家伙坐在我办公室里 对德国的投资非常满意 |
| 342 | Nothing would give me more joy than to see all of my investments in Germany turn into gold. | 最让我高兴的莫过于看到 我对德国的投资变成黄金 |
| 343 | So I have every I have every belief and I'm very, very happy to hear your personal support of the startup ecosystem. | 所以我有我所有的信念, 我非常,非常,非常高兴听到 你的个人支持 启动生态系统。 |
| 344 | I'm very happy to hear that that there are regulations involved to make it possible for the pension funds and the risk capital, | 我很高兴听到有条例 允许养老基金和风险资本 |
| 345 | the risk capital to come into Germany. | 进入德国的风险资本 |
| 346 | And then and then I'm also I'm also super excited to hear about all of the AI startups and the startups that have happened in the last couple of years. | 然后,我也很兴奋地听到所有AI的启动和最近几年发生的启动. |
| 347 | Half of the startups in Germany being founded in the last two years is AI. | 过去两年德国创办的初创企业有一半是AI. |
| 348 | Yeah, that's terrific. | 是啊,这是伟大的。 |
| 349 | Yeah, that's who knows maybe you are going to ask them for some autographs next year. | 是啊,那就是谁知道 也许你会要求他们 一些签名明年。 |
| 350 | You might want to bring a pen when you come once they have their breakthroughs. | 一旦他们有了突破,你可能就会想带一支笔来 |
| 351 | Some of them, I understand, were your interns in the past and now they run their own companies. | 据我所知,其中一些人以前是你的实习生 现在他们经营自己的公司 |
| 352 | It's been a pleasure to have you here. | 很高兴你能来 |
| 353 | Thank you to both of you. | 感谢你们两个。 |
| 354 | Ladies and gentlemen, please give an applause to Chancellor Merz and Jensen Wang. | 女士们,先生们,请掌声 默兹总理和王詹森。 |
| 355 | What an upbeat, promising start. | 多么乐观,有希望的开始。 |
| 356 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 357 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 358 | Well, wel-well-well... | 好吧,我们... |
| 359 | Well-well-well... | 这... |
| 360 | Well-well-well-well... | 这... |
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