别再空喊口号了！万斯硬核专访：遏制极端思潮，关键在改善民生…
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | Welcome back. | 欢迎回来 |
| 0:00 | There's two big questions facing America right now. | 现在美国面临两个大问题. |
| 0:04 | What comes next with Iran? | 接下来是伊朗? |
| 0:05 | And why is socialism sticking with young Americans? | 为什么社会主义坚持美国青年? |
| 0:09 | Here's more on those questions | 这里还有问题 |
| 0:11 | and my conversation with Vice President J.D. | 还有我和副总统J. D. |
| 0:14 | Vance. | 万斯(原变种). |
| 0:16 | Let's talk for a minute about Iran. | 谈一下伊朗 |
| 0:18 | There is frustration, Mr. Vice President, I think, out there on the seesaw nature of what's going on | 副总统先生,我想,外面对事情的恶化性感到沮丧 |
| 0:26 | in Iran. | 在伊朗。 (英语). |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Welcome back. | 欢迎回来 |
| 2 | There's two big questions facing America right now. | 现在美国面临两个大问题. |
| 3 | What comes next with Iran? | 接下来是伊朗? |
| 4 | And why is socialism sticking with young Americans? | 为什么社会主义坚持美国青年? |
| 5 | Here's more on those questions | 这里还有问题 |
| 6 | and my conversation with Vice President J.D. | 还有我和副总统J. D. |
| 7 | Vance. | 万斯(原变种). |
| 8 | Let's talk for a minute about Iran. | 谈一下伊朗 |
| 9 | There is frustration, Mr. Vice President, I think, out there on the seesaw nature of what's going on | 副总统先生,我想,外面对事情的恶化性感到沮丧 |
| 10 | in Iran. | 在伊朗。 (英语). |
| 11 | We're close to a deal, then we're going to bomb the hell out of them. | 我们快成交了 然后轰掉他们 |
| 12 | The strait is open, | 海峡是开放的, |
| 13 | then the strait is closed. | 然后海峡就关闭了。 |
| 14 | And I'm sure that frustration is shared inside the White House. | 我相信白宫内部也有挫折感 |
| 15 | So I know it's hard to project, but let me ask you, how does this end? | 所以我知道很难预测 但我要问你 这到底是怎么回事? |
| 16 | What does this look like | 这看起来像什么? |
| 17 | when and if it's over with Iran? | 什么时候和如果伊朗结束了? |
| 18 | Well, the thing I can say with confidence is I think this ends | 我有信心地说 我觉得这结束了 |
| 19 | with the United States in a stronger position, with Iran not having a nuclear weapon, and with | 美国处于更强大的地位,伊朗没有核武器, |
| 20 | strait of Hormuz return to a place where oil and gas prices are stable for the American people. | 霍尔木兹海峡回到了美国人民石油和天然气价格稳定的地方. |
| 21 | I think the issue here, Will, is that the Iranians sometimes make commitments that they don't honor. | 我认为这里的问题,威尔, 是伊朗人有时作出 他们不履行的承诺。 |
| 22 | They make a deal, they don't honor the deal. | 他们做交易,他们不履行协议。 |
| 23 | And I understand your point about the seesaw nature | 我理解你的观点 关于锯齿自然 |
| 24 | of this, but I think what that reflects is that we have a lot of tools at our disposal | 但我认为这反映了 我们有很多工具可以使用 |
| 25 | to compel action. | 强制行动。 |
| 26 | And sometimes we're focused on the energy piece of it because we want Americans | 有时我们专注于 能量的部分,因为我们想要美国人 |
| 27 | to be able to afford the price of oil and gas. | 能够支付石油和天然气的价格。 |
| 28 | Sometimes we're obviously focused on the military | 有时我们显然专注于军事 |
| 29 | nature of it. | 它的性质。 |
| 30 | Sometimes we're focused on the nuclear program. | 有时我们专注于核方案. |
| 31 | So I think what is really | 所以我认为什么才是真正的 |
| 32 | happening is that you're seeing a president of the United States at the height of his authority | 发生的事情是,你看到一个美国总统 在他的权威的顶峰 |
| 33 | with a lot of tools, diplomatic, military, and economic. | 拥有许多工具,外交,军事,以及经济. |
| 34 | What I think is really going on from | 我觉得这是真的 从 |
| 35 | the inside is that we're using those tools very selectively, very strategically to get the outcome | 内在的是我们正在使用这些工具 非常有选择,非常战略性地得到结果 |
| 36 | that the president of the United States needs to get for the benefit of the American people. | 美国总统需要为美国人民谋福利。 |
| 37 | And it really is twofold. | 这确实是双重的。 |
| 38 | It's ensuring that the Gulf countries continue to send oil and gas to | 它确保海湾国家继续把石油和天然气送到 |
| 39 | the world economy so that we have energy price stability. | 我们的能源价格是稳定的。 |
| 40 | That's obviously important for the | 这显然很重要 |
| 41 | American people. | 美国人民。 |
| 42 | I know that oil is down today and it's way down from the highs in the early | 我知道今天的石油已经下调了 早年从高处下调了 |
| 43 | days of the conflict. | 冲突的日子。 |
| 44 | That's goal number one, keep oil and gas cheap for Americans all over | 这是头号目标, 保持石油和天然气便宜 美国各地 |
| 45 | our country. | 我们的国家 |
| 46 | And then obviously goal number two is ensure that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon. | 显然,第二个目标就是确保伊朗永远得不到核武器。 |
| 47 | I feel confident we're accomplishing both of those goals, but it's inherently an unpredictable | 我有信心我们实现了这两个目标 但这本来就是无法预料的 |
| 48 | thing because the Iranians themselves are unpredictable and they sometimes don't honor | 因为伊朗人自己是无法预料的 他们有时不尊重 |
| 49 | the commitments they've made to us. | 他们对我们的承诺。 |
| 50 | All right, really quickly, I want to ask you this. | 好吧,真的很快,我想问你这个。 |
| 51 | There is | 有一个 |
| 52 | obviously, and I think it's beyond comedically, a movement in the United States to embrace | 显然,我认为这已经超出了喜剧的范畴, 在美国一个运动 拥抱 |
| 53 | socialism. | 社会主义. |
| 54 | We've seen, for example, a joke of a candidate in Wisconsin still get 300,000 votes, | 例如,我们看到威斯康辛州一个候选人的笑话 仍然获得30万票 |
| 55 | people voting for democratic socialism. | 人们投票支持民主社会主义。 |
| 56 | But I think the real question, and I think it's a question | 但我认为真正的问题 我认为这是一个问题 |
| 57 | for you, it's a question for Republicans at large is this. | 对于你来说 共和党人是个大问题 |
| 58 | When a young person looks at their life | 当一个年轻人看着他们的生活 |
| 59 | and they say, you know, I did what America asked me to do. | 他们说,你知道, 我做了美国让我做的。 |
| 60 | I went to college, I got a job, and I | 我上大学,有工作,我 |
| 61 | don't think I can afford the life that my parents could afford. | 别以为我买不起我父母能买得起的生活 |
| 62 | Now, whether or not that's statistically | 现在,无论这是否统计 |
| 63 | accurate, it is a real feeling and a growing feeling. | 准确的说,这是一种真实的感受和不断增长的感觉。 |
| 64 | So what is your answer to that young person? | 那你对那个年轻人的回答是什么? |
| 65 | You know, our answer, Will, and this is the exact right question to ask because our response to | 你知道,我们的答案,威尔, 这是完全正确的问题 问,因为我们的答复 |
| 66 | socialism, which is a dangerous and destructive ideology that's been tried in the past and failed, | 社会主义是一种危险的破坏性思想,过去曾尝试过,但失败了, |
| 67 | our response to that can't be just to ignore the economic concerns that I think are feeding | 我们的对策不能只是 忽略经济关切 我认为正在喂养 |
| 68 | this rising interest in socialism. | 对社会主义的兴趣不断提高 |
| 69 | And I guess I would say to that young person that you as an | 我想我会对那个年轻人说 你作为一个 |
| 70 | American citizen deserve to have a good life in this country and you deserve to have a government | 美国公民在这个国家应该过上美好的生活 而你应该有一个政府 |
| 71 | that is making it easier for you to start a family, for you to afford to get a good education, | 让你更容易组建一个家庭, 让你负担得起一个良好的教育, |
| 72 | for you to have a good job, for you to afford a home. | 让你有个好工作 让你买得起房子 |
| 73 | And what I would also say is that whilst | 我还想说,虽然 |
| 74 | these things sometimes take a little bit of time, we are already seeing the positive results come | 这些事情有时需要一点时间 我们已经看到积极的结果来了 |
| 75 | from the president's economic policies. | 从总统的经济政策。 |
| 76 | We're seeing trillions of dollars of new investment | 我们看到数万亿美元的新投资 |
| 77 | into this country, which means good middle-class jobs for young people, middle-income people all | 进入这个国家,这意味着 良好的中产阶级工作 年轻人,所有中等收入的人 |
| 78 | across our country. | 我们的国家。 |
| 79 | We're seeing housing prices finally stabilize. | 房价终于稳定下来了 |
| 80 | They doubled during the Biden | 拜登时期翻了一番 |
| 81 | administration. | 行政部门。 |
| 82 | They have finally kind of flatlined during the first year and a half of the Trump | 他们终于在特朗普的第一年半时间里平了下来 |
| 83 | administration. | 行政部门。 |
| 84 | We also want to get interest rates down, of course, so that young people | 我们当然也想降低利率 让年轻人 |
| 85 | can afford a home. | 买得起家 |
| 86 | We want people to be able to afford the good things about this wonderful | 我们希望人们能买得起这些美好的东西 |
| 87 | country that we all live in. | 我们共同生活的国家 |
| 88 | And my warning to my fellow Republicans, Will, would be, | 我警告我的共和党人威尔 |
| 89 | if we don't get this right, don't blame young people for being sympathetic to socialism. | 如果我们不明白这一点,不要责怪年轻人同情社会主义. |
| 90 | We've got to blame ourselves. | 得自责. |
| 91 | And I think what is so unique and refreshing about Donald Trump's | 我觉得唐纳德·特朗普的作品 如此独特和新鲜 |
| 92 | economic policies is that it's not the same old economic ideas that you would have heard | 经济政策不是你们会听到的旧经济思想 |
| 93 | 30, 40 years ago. | 30,40年前的电影. |
| 94 | He's talking about rebuilding our industrial base, rebuilding the heartland, | 他说的是重建我们的工业基地 重建心脏地带 |
| 95 | making our streets safer, making it possible for young people to afford to buy a home. | 使我们的街道更加安全,使年轻人能够买得起房子。 |
| 96 | This is how you stop socialism. | 这就是你阻止社会主义的方法. |
| 97 | You don't stop socialism by throwing slogans at people about | 你不停地向人们说社会主义 |
| 98 | the free market. | 自由市场。 |
| 99 | As much as I love the free market, you stop socialism by making people's | 尽管我爱自由市场, 你停止社会主义 通过制造人 |
| 100 | lives better. | 生活会更好。 |
| 101 | And that's what we're trying to do every single day. | 这就是我们每天都想做的。 |
| 102 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 103 | That answer, | 这个答案是: |
| 104 | I believe, is worthy of a much longer conversation, maybe one that you and I can have | 我相信,这是值得的 更长的谈话, 也许一个你和我可以有 |
| 105 | in Austin as the University of Texas plays Ohio State. | 在奥斯汀,作为德克萨斯大学 扮演俄亥俄州立大学。 |
| 106 | I won't make you commit on television, | 我不会让你在电视上承诺 |
| 107 | but I hope to see you September 12th in Texas. | 但我希望9月12日在德州见到你 |
| 108 | Thank you, Mr. Vice President. | 谢谢你,副总统先生 |
| 109 | Take care, Will. | 保重,威尔 |
| 110 | Thanks for having me. | 谢谢你邀请我 |
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