官方采访2026年诺贝尔和平奖得主纳维·皮莱：在最黑暗的时代
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:01 | Hello? | 有人吗? |
| 0:02 | Hello, this is Robin Hardy calling from the Norwegian Nobel Institute in Oslo. | 你好 我是来自奥斯陆挪威诺贝尔研究所的罗宾·哈迪 |
| 0:06 | Is this Navi Pillay? | 这是纳维·皮莱吗? |
| 0:08 | No, we said you should call on that phone, so I'll pass it to Navi, just a second. | 不,我们说过你应该打电话, 所以我会把它给纳维,只是一秒钟。 |
| 0:15 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
| 0:17 | Oh, thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 0:18 | Thank you for this call. | 谢谢你的电话 |
| 0:20 | I'm here at Nuremberg, that's why it's all complicated. | 我在这里纽伦堡, 这就是为什么这一切是复杂的。 |
| 0:23 | No, no problem at all? | 没有问题吗? |
| 0:24 | Yeah, I was actually in courtroom 600, where the Nazi trials were held. | 是的,我实际上在600号审判室, 纳粹的审判在那里进行。 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Hello? | 有人吗? |
| 2 | Hello, this is Robin Hardy calling from the Norwegian Nobel Institute in Oslo. | 你好 我是来自奥斯陆挪威诺贝尔研究所的罗宾·哈迪 |
| 3 | Is this Navi Pillay? | 这是纳维·皮莱吗? |
| 4 | No, we said you should call on that phone, so I'll pass it to Navi, just a second. | 不,我们说过你应该打电话, 所以我会把它给纳维,只是一秒钟。 |
| 5 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
| 6 | Oh, thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 7 | Thank you for this call. | 谢谢你的电话 |
| 8 | I'm here at Nuremberg, that's why it's all complicated. | 我在这里纽伦堡, 这就是为什么这一切是复杂的。 |
| 9 | No, no problem at all? | 没有问题吗? |
| 10 | Yeah, I was actually in courtroom 600, where the Nazi trials were held. | 是的,我实际上在600号审判室, 纳粹的审判在那里进行。 |
| 11 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 12 | It's so significant. | 它是如此重要。 |
| 13 | I'm truly impressed with the announcement and why the award has been given. | 我对这个公告和为什么颁奖感到印象深刻. |
| 14 | So can I ask, how did you actually find out that you were the recipient of the prize this | 所以,我可以问,你是怎么发现 你是这个奖项的获得者 |
| 15 | year? | 一年吗? |
| 16 | Well, I was sitting in courtroom 600 and listening to the panel of speakers on justice and reparation. | 我坐在600号审判室 听取司法和赔偿问题演讲 |
| 17 | When the director of the Nuremberg Principals Academy, Christoph Zeffeling, asked if I would | 当纽伦堡校长学院院长克里斯托夫·泽菲林问我是否愿意 |
| 18 | step out, and I saw his face looking so serious, I thought he had some kind of bad news for | 我看见他的脸看起来很严肃 我以为他有个坏消息 |
| 19 | me. | 来啊 |
| 20 | And then he told me they've just seen this, they all saw it in the media first. | 然后他告诉我,他们刚刚看到这个, 他们都先在媒体上看到它。 |
| 21 | And so I stared at it in disbelief, I could not believe. | 所以我在迷信中凝视着,我无法相信。 |
| 22 | And gradually, yeah, I got all these other media alerts and I watched the announcement. | 渐渐,是的,我得到了所有这些其他的媒体警报,我观看了公告。 |
| 23 | So then I got to believe. | 所以我必须相信 |
| 24 | So total surprise and deeply, deeply honoured and touched, more by the criteria you selected | 如此惊奇 深深的荣幸和感动 更符合你选择的标准 |
| 25 | me for. | 为了我 |
| 26 | So I know it's a personal award, but for me, mainly it's for all the institutions I served | 所以我知道这是个人奖 但对我来说 主要是我服务过的所有机构 |
| 27 | on as well, all the people I worked with as well. | 还有我和所有的人 |
| 28 | That's quite a way to find out, to have the news come from a colleague's face. | 这是一个相当的方法 发现, 让消息来自同事的脸。 |
| 29 | Because I had absolutely no hint, nothing. | 因为我绝对没有暗示,什么都没有。 |
| 30 | Maybe that's the best part of getting a surprise announcement, you had absolutely no idea. | 也许那是最好的部分 得到一个惊喜公告, 你绝对不知道。 |
| 31 | And so it's overwhelming, deeply emotional for me, yes, since I just heard it about an | 对,因为我刚听说... |
| 32 | hour or two ago. | 两小时前 |
| 33 | I'm still really here with disbelief but excitement. | 我仍然在这里,真的有 不相信但兴奋。 |
| 34 | That's wonderful. | 这是美妙的。 |
| 35 | Have you had a moment to decide how you're going to celebrate? | 你有时间决定如何庆祝吗? |
| 36 | Yeah, I think I'm still a work colleague. | 是啊,我还是个同事 |
| 37 | I don't know why I'm so great on and on at 885, but here I am. | 我不知道我为什么在885年如此伟大,但我在这里。 |
| 38 | For me, the best is to be here with all the delegates at this international conference. | 对我来说,最好的办法是与出席这次国际会议的所有代表一起与会。 |
| 39 | So many of them are victims and so I wish to continue to honour them, them and the survivors. | 如此之多的人是受害者,因此我希望继续纪念他们、他们和幸存者。 |
| 40 | I will spend the rest of the day with the delegates here, who all stood up and gave | 我剩下的时间 和在这里的代表们一起度过 他们都站起来 给了 |
| 41 | me a standing ovation. | 我是一个站着的爱。 |
| 42 | And it was such a moving moment for me and also such a significant endorsement of the | 对我来说,这真是令人感动的时刻, 同时也是如此重要的认可 |
| 43 | Nobel Committee's decision to give this award to me as a representative of international | 诺贝尔委员会决定将这一奖项授予我,作为国际社会的代表。 |
| 44 | law, the international rule of law, justice and the reports I've done on current disturbing | 法律、国际法治、司法以及我所做的关于当前令人不安的 |
| 45 | conflicts in the world. | 世界上的冲突。 |
| 46 | That must have been a beautiful moment to receive that ovation from your colleagues | 这一定是一个美丽的时刻 接受你同事的欢呼 |
| 47 | and from victims. | 从受害者。 |
| 48 | I can't tell you how beautiful and exciting it was, where one is near to peers, because | 我不能告诉你它是多么美丽和激动人心, 那里一个人接近同龄人,因为 |
| 49 | they didn't just stand up and clap, they'd know me, so it was loads of hugs and joys | 他们不只是站起来鼓掌 他们认识我 所以他们拥抱和欢乐 |
| 50 | and protracted applause. | 和长时间的掌声。 |
| 51 | These don't happen to people in their life, especially judges who work quietly in terms | 这些不会发生在人们的生活中, 特别是法官们,他们悄悄地工作 |
| 52 | of interpreting the law, judges who investigate, look at the evidence, are dealing with serious | 负责调查、审查证据的法官正在严肃处理 |
| 53 | issues all the time. | 总是有问题 |
| 54 | You don't have this opportunity of being recognised by your peers. | 你没有机会被同伴认出来 |
| 55 | And so that's what happened to me in this courtroom 600, that my peers stood up to applaud. | 所以这就是我在这个600年的法庭里发生的事情, 我的同伴们站起来鼓掌。 |
| 56 | I don't think I will ever forget that, it's just so moving. | 我不认为我会永远忘记, 它是如此感人。 |
| 57 | And of course, your committee made this possible, all the reasons given were also deeply touching | 当然,你的委员会 使得这一切成为可能, 所有给出的理由 也是深刻的感人 |
| 58 | because you work in far away, distant places quietly, and you don't think that the world | 因为你在遥远的地方工作, 安静地,你不认为世界 |
| 59 | is actually paying attention to your work. | 其实是关注你的工作。 |
| 60 | And this is huge coming from the Nobel Peace Committee. | 这是来自诺贝尔和平委员会的巨大消息。 |
| 61 | Well, I can tell you that if they weren't paying attention before, they're definitely | 我可以告诉你 如果他们之前不注意的话 他们绝对是 |
| 62 | paying attention now. | 现在注意 |
| 63 | With this announcement, you join the ranks of women Nobel Peace Prize laureates, of which | 你加入诺贝尔和平奖获得者行列 |
| 64 | there are only 20, and you will become the 21st. | 只有20个 你将成为第21个 |
| 65 | How does that make you feel, I mean, for you and for your work? | 我的意思是,这让你感觉如何, 对于你和你的工作? |
| 66 | I certainly just believe because it has rarely happened that you give an award to judges, | 我当然相信 因为你很少给法官颁奖 |
| 67 | lawyers, and people working in respect of the law. | 律师和从事法律工作的人。 |
| 68 | I know you have given awards to civil society activists, human rights activists, all that's good. | 我知道你已经给 民间社会活动家, 人权活动家, 所有好的。 |
| 69 | It's just so bad that there's supposed to be equality between women and men, and that | 这太糟糕了, 应该有 男女平等, |
| 70 | you know, I'm only the 21st recipient, but I pay tribute to the members of the committee | 你知道,我只是第21名的受奖者, 但我向委员会成员致敬 |
| 71 | who considered me and didn't have any gender prejudices and so on. | 他们认为我和 没有性别偏见等等。 |
| 72 | I think your announcement is significant for that as well, to give it to a woman. | 我认为你的宣布也很重要 给一个女人 |
| 73 | I will leave you with more congratulations and with best of luck for the rest of your | 我会给你更多的祝贺 祝你其余的好运 |
| 74 | day. | 日报. |
| 75 | I have a feeling it might be a little difficult to focus. | 我有一种感觉,它可能有点难集中。 |
| 76 | Thank you for the good wishes. | 谢谢你的好祝愿 |
| 77 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
| 78 | And I look forward to speaking to you again and again as soon as this news registers in | 我期待着在新闻登记后 与你反复交谈 |
| 79 | my mind. | 我脑子里想的 |
| 80 | Go through one day at a time, I think. | 我想一次经历一天 |
| 81 | Of course it will take some time to sink in, but it's real and we can't wait to see you | 当然要花点时间才能下水 但这是真的 我们迫不及待想见你 |
| 82 | in December. | 12月时 |
| 83 | Bye bye. | 再见 |
| 84 | Bye. | 再见。 |
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