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0:04Hello, everybody.哈罗,大家好。
0:04I am delighted to be here and grateful to all of you for joining us我很高兴来到这里,感谢大家加入我们
0:10for this discussion.本次讨论。
0:14In 2015, I gave a TEDx talk in a little elementary school auditorium.2015年,我在一所小小学礼堂做了TEDx演讲.
0:24And much to my surprise, the talk became one of the 10 most viewed talks in the history令人惊讶的是,这次谈话成为了有史以来 最受欢迎的10次会谈之一
0:31(原始内容存档于2019-03-21). Official website (TED).
0:34And in that talk, I conveyed one simple scientific finding, the finding that when在那次演讲中,我传达了一个简单的科学发现,即当
0:41we study hundreds of people over their entire adult lives, the people who turn out to be我们研究成百上千的人 在他们的整个成年生活, 人谁变成
0:48the happiest and the healthiest are those who have good, warm connections to others.最幸福、最健康的人就是那些与他人有良好、温暖关系的人。
0:56So today, I want to take you deeper into this whole subject by exploring how relationships因此,今天,我想让你更深入地 进入整个主题 通过探索如何关系
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1Hello, everybody.哈罗,大家好。
2I am delighted to be here and grateful to all of you for joining us我很高兴来到这里,感谢大家加入我们
3for this discussion.本次讨论。
4In 2015, I gave a TEDx talk in a little elementary school auditorium.2015年,我在一所小小学礼堂做了TEDx演讲.
5And much to my surprise, the talk became one of the 10 most viewed talks in the history令人惊讶的是,这次谈话成为了有史以来 最受欢迎的10次会谈之一
6(原始内容存档于2019-03-21). Official website (TED).
7And in that talk, I conveyed one simple scientific finding, the finding that when在那次演讲中,我传达了一个简单的科学发现,即当
8we study hundreds of people over their entire adult lives, the people who turn out to be我们研究成百上千的人 在他们的整个成年生活, 人谁变成
9the happiest and the healthiest are those who have good, warm connections to others.最幸福、最健康的人就是那些与他人有良好、温暖关系的人。
10So today, I want to take you deeper into this whole subject by exploring how relationships因此,今天,我想让你更深入地 进入整个主题 通过探索如何关系
11matter in our lives, how they affect our health, what kinds of relationships give us this big如何影响我们的健康 什么样的关系给我们带来这么大的
12benefit in happiness, and which tools you can start using today to make your relationship和哪些工具可以今天开始使用 来建立你的关系
13stronger.更强。
14So I do direct this Harvard study of adult development.所以我指导了哈佛的成人发展研究。
15It's, as far as we know,据我们所知,
16the longest study of the same people that's ever been done, following people since 1938,从1938年就跟随人们 对同一个人最长的研究
17from adolescents all the way through old age, and now following all their children,从青少年一直到老年, 现在跟随他们的孩子,
18thousands of lives.无数众生.
19And we began to find about 30 years ago, this startling connection between大约30年前 我们开始发现 这种惊人的联系
20warm relationships and how good our lives feel to us, our well-being, and also the fact that温暖的关系,以及我们的生活对我们的感受,我们的福祉,还有这样一个事实:
21warm relationships seemed to keep people both physically stronger and kept their brains sharper温暖的关系让人身体更强壮 头脑更敏锐
22as they grew older.他们长大了
23And we didn't believe the data at first.我们起初不相信数据。
24We thought, how could this be that我们想,怎么会这样?
25relationships actually get into our bodies and shape our health?关系真的进入我们的身体 并塑造我们的健康?
26But then other studies began但后来开始了其他研究
27to find the same thing.找到同样的东西。
28We found that people had less depression, they were less likely to get我们发现人们的抑郁症较少, 他们不太可能得到
29diabetes and heart disease, that they recovered faster from illness when they had better connections糖尿病和心脏病, 他们从疾病中恢复得更快,
30with other people.和别人
31So then the question is, how could this work?那么问题是,这怎么行呢?
32How do relationships shape our关系如何塑造我们
33happiness and our physical health?快乐和身体健康?
34Well, one of the best theories, for which there's now some好吧,最好的理论之一, 现在有一些
35pretty good evidence, is based on the idea of stress.相当好的证据,是基于压力的想法。
36That, as we know, stress is an inevitable我们知道,压力是不可避免的
37part of all of our lives.我们一生中的一部分
38Stress happens to us every day.我们每天都有压力
39And what we find is that good我们发现的就是这个好
40relationships turn out to be stress regulators.关系变成压力调节器
41So let me give you an example.让我举个例子。
42Let's say that这么说吧
43I have something upsetting happen to me during the day, and I find myself ruminating about it白天我有些烦恼 我发现自己在反省
44and really thinking about it and unhappy.并真正思考它和不快乐。
45I can feel my body go into what we call fight or flight我能感觉到我的身体进入我们所谓的战斗或飞行
46response, where literally my heart rate goes up and I might start sweating a little bit,反应,从字面上说,我的心率上升 我可能会开始出汗一点点,
47and I'm just not feeling as well.我只是感觉不太好。
48Now, what we're meant to do is to come back to equilibrium现在我们要做的是回到平衡
49when a stressor goes away.当压力消失时
50That's the way the body's supposed to work.即是体性无碍.
51But what happens但会发生什么
52if I go home at the end of my upsetting day and I have somebody to talk to?如果我在烦恼的一天结束时回家... ...我还有人要和他谈谈?
53Either I can call要么我打电话
54someone on the phone or it's somebody I live with.打电话的人 或者是我和他住在一起的人
55I can literally feel my body calm down.我可以感觉到我的身体冷静下来。
56I can feel that fight or flight response subside.我能感觉到战斗或飞行反应减弱了
57But what if I don't have anybody to go home to?但如果我没有人可以回家呢?
58What if there's nobody I can call?如果没有人我可以打电话呢?
59What we find is that people who are isolated, are lonely,我们发现,那些孤立,孤独的人,
60don't have those stress regulators that we get from good relationships.没有那些压力调节 我们从良好的关系。
61And that we stay而我们留下
62in chronic fight or flight mode, that our bodies have this chronic stress, chronic levels of在长期搏斗或飞行模式下, 我们的身体有这种长期的压力, 慢性水平
63inflammation, and circulating stress hormones that wear away our happiness and break down炎症 和循环 压力激素 耗尽我们的幸福和破解
64different body systems.不同的身体系统。
65Well, what kinds of relationships seem essential to well-being?那么,什么样的关系 似乎对福祉至关重要?
66And this is interesting.这很有趣。
67We asked people who were our original participants in our study,我们问那些最初参加我们研究的人
68we asked them, who could you call in the middle of the night if you were sick or scared?我们问他们 如果你生病或害怕 你半夜能给谁打电话?
69And many of our people could list several other people they could call if they were in trouble.我们很多人可以列出其他几个人 如果有麻烦,他们可以打电话。
70Some people couldn't list anyone.有些人不能列出任何人。
71There wasn't a person on the planet who they could turn to地球上没有一个人可以求助
72if they were sick or scared.如果他们生病或害怕。
73And what we find is that having at least one person in your life我们发现你一生中至少有一个人
74who you feel really has your back, who you could go to if you were in trouble,你感觉自己真的有你的背, 如果你有麻烦,你可以去找谁,
75that's essential for maintaining our happiness and our health.这对维持我们的幸福和健康至关重要。
76When we asked当我们问
77these same people, when they got to be in their 80s, to look back on their lives and to tell us当他们80多岁时, 他们回顾他们的生活,告诉我们
78what they were proudest of, almost everybody said something about their relationships.他们最骄傲的是, 几乎每个人都说 他们的关系。
79They didn't say, I made a lot of money, or I won some big awards.他们没有说,我赚了很多钱, 或者我得到了一些大奖。
80They said,他们说,
81I was a good mentor.我是一个很好的导师。
82I was a good friend.我是一个好朋友。
83I raised healthy kids.我养了健康的孩子。
84I was a good partner.我是一个很好的伙伴。
85And so what we find is that what seems to mean the most to people when they get to the end of所以,我们发现, 似乎对人们意义最大的 当他们到达终点
86their lives is the strength and the warmth of their connections to others.他们的生命是他们与他人联系的力量和温暖。
87So then the question所以问题
88comes up, well, which types of relationships support our well-being?什么样的关系能支持我们的福祉?
89Some people have asked,有人问,
90do I need to be in an intimate relationship to get this benefit?我是不是需要亲密的关系才能得到这个好处?
91Absolutely not.绝对不是。
92All types of各类
93relationships support our well-being.关系支持我们的福祉。
94So friendships, relatives, work colleagues,朋友、亲戚、同事
95casual contacts, the person who gets you your coffee every morning at Starbucks or Dunkin'每天早上在星巴克或邓金给你买咖啡的人
96Donuts, the person who checks you out in the grocery store, who you see maybe every week,甜甜圈,那个在杂货店检查你的人 你可能每周都会见到他
97even talking to strangers has that benefit.甚至和陌生人说话也有好处
98So they did an experiment where they assigned some于是他们做了一个实验 他们分配了一些
99people who were about to go on the subway, the task of talking to a stranger, while other people准备上地铁的人 和陌生人谈话的任务 而其他人
100were assigned the task of just doing their usual thing of being on their phones or listening to被分配的任务只是做他们 通常的事情,在他们的电话或听
101music or reading.音乐或阅读。
102It turned out that the people who were assigned to talk to strangers didn't原来被派去和陌生人谈话的人
103think they were going to like it, but they turned out to be much happier at the end of the task以为他们会喜欢的 但是在任务结束时他们更快乐
104than the people who just rode the subway keeping to themselves.比那些刚坐地铁的人还好
105So even talking to strangers gives所以即使跟陌生人说话
106us that little hit of well-being from relationships.我们从关系上幸福的微小打击。
107So the question comes up, how can we strengthen因此,问题来了,我们如何加强
108our connections with other people?我们和别人的关系?
109And this is where we've come to think about it as a kind of这就是我们想着的
110social fitness.社会健身。
111If we think about physical fitness, we think, okay, I'll go to the gym,如果我们想健身,我们想, 好吧,我去健身房,
112I'll work out, I'll take a long walk, I'll do something to keep myself strong and fit.修炼精进,长途跋涉,为保持自己坚固,身体健康而有所作为.
113But then we come home and we don't say, I'm done, I don't ever have to do that again.但是,然后我们回家,我们不说, 我结束了,我再也不做。
114We have the sense that physical fitness is a practice that we need to maintain over time.我们感到,身体健康是我们需要长期保持的一种做法。
115It turns out that social fitness is the same, that in fact, our friendships, our relationships原来社会健身是一样的,事实上,我们的友谊,我们的关系
116don't just take care of themselves, that even good relationships need tending to, they need不要只是照顾自己, 即使良好的关系需要照顾, 他们需要
117attention, they need returning to them over and over again.注意,他们需要一次又一次地回到他们身边。
118So what are some ways that we can我们能用什么方法
119strengthen our relationships?加强我们的关系?
120Well, one way is to be proactive, to take the initiative.一种方法是主动主动主动
121So to reach为了达到
122out to a friend and ask her to take a walk instead of spending two more hours on your laptop去找一个朋友 让她出去走走 而不是多花两个小时在你的笔记本电脑上
123this weekend on Saturday afternoon.这个周末是星期六下午
124Establish some routines with the people who are most important和最重要的人一起做一些例行公事
125{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}给你一个正常的电话 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}或咖啡 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}每周六跟一个你真正想要确定的人
126you see regularly or meeting somebody at the gym or having lunch with a coworker.你经常看到或者在健身房和同事见面 或者吃午饭
127The other thing还有一件事
128we can do is liven up those long-standing relationships, particularly like the people我们能做的就是恢复这些长期的关系 特别是像人们一样
129we live with.我们住在一起。
130People we can come to take for granted by proposing to do something new,我们建议做一些新的事情 就可以认为是理所当然的,
131going out on a date, just taking a walk if that's not your usual routine.出去约会,只是散步 如果这不是你通常的习惯。
132The other thing that we还有一件事,我们
133know works to help people, particularly who aren't as connected to others as they want to be,知道工作帮助人, 特别是谁没有 与其他人的联系 他们想成为,
134is to connect around shared interests.将共同利益联系起来。
135So volunteer in the community to do something that you care所以在社区里自愿做一些你在乎的事
136about.有关。
137It might be a gardening club, it might be a bowling league, it might be a political cause,它可能是一个园艺俱乐部, 它可能是一个保龄球联赛, 它可能是一个政治事业,
138but to do something that you care about because then you're with other people who care about the但做一些你关心的事 因为那时你和其他人 谁关心
139same thing and that's a natural place to start conversations that can lead to ongoing relationships.同样的事情,这是一个自然的地方 开始对话,可以导致持续的关系。
140And finally, get more comfortable striking up casual conversations.最后,让大家更舒服地开始闲聊
141That's something we can这是我们可以做的
142learn to be more comfortable with, almost like exercising a muscle.学着更自在 就像锻炼肌肉一样
143So now I would like to ask所以现在我想问
144you to do one of these things, to make one of these choices that we can make every day.你做这些事情之一, 做出这些选择之一 我们可以每天做出。
145I'd我会
146my challenge to you.我对你的挑战。
147Think about someone you miss that you just haven't seen in a while or想想你想念的人 你只是没有看到一段时间或
148you haven't had contact with and you'd like to make contact.你没有接触过,你想联系。
149You don't even have to have a你甚至不用有一个
150particular reason.特别的原因
151Now, I want you to take out your phone or whatever device you use现在,我要你拿出你的手机或任何设备
152right now and send that person just a little note.现在就给那个人发个小信
153It could say, I'm just thinking of you and wanted它会说,我只是在想你,想要
154to connect.连接。
155Or you could say something more personal to you and to your relationship and then或者你可以对你和你的关系说点私人话 然后
156watch what comes back to you.看着你回来。
157And while we're here, we might even have time to share with each other当我们在这里的时候,我们甚至有时间 分享彼此
158some of the responses that people get when they do this.人们这样做时会得到一些回应。
159So think of someone and make contact想想别人,联系一下
160right now.现在
161The point of this simple exercise is to remind us that even small actions can have这种简单做法的要点是提醒我们,即使是小规模的行动也可能有:
162ripple effects that build our wellbeing and that these are things you can do every day连锁反应 建立我们的福祉 这些是你每天可以做的事情
163in the moment.在此刻。
164Thank you.谢谢
165One way I'd love to kick things off, Bob, you mentioned at the top of the一种方式,我喜欢踢东西,鲍勃, 你提到在顶端
166conversation, the top of your talk rather, that you run this Harvard study of adult development对话,你顶尖的谈话, 你运行这个哈佛研究 成人发展
167and gave us sort of a snippet of what that is.并给了我们一些 片段是什么。
168But could you tell us a little bit more about但是,你能告诉我们更多关于
169the study?书房?
170What does it track?它追踪到什么?
171Why did it start?为什么开始?
172Who's in the study today?今天谁在书房?
173Absolutely.当然
174The study研究报告
175started in 1938 and it started with two groups, a group of Harvard College undergrads and it started开始于1938年,开始分为两组,一组哈佛学院研究生,开始于
176with a group of inner city boys who were in elementary school or middle school from really一群在小学或初中的内城男孩
177disadvantaged, troubled families.弱势、困难的家庭。
178And each study was trying to look at how people can take每一个研究都试图研究人们如何接受
179healthy developmental paths.健康的发展道路。
180And so the idea was not to study what goes wrong in our lives,所以这个想法不是研究我们生活中的错
181but what goes right in our lives and some of the factors that contribute to helping things go well但是我们生活中的正确之处 和一些有助于帮助事物顺利发展的因素
182in human development.在人类发展方面。
183Needless to say, we started out with boys, all males, but we've added women.不用说,我们一开始是男的,都是男的,但我们增加了女的。
184We have more than half women now and we've added the second generation.我们现在有一半以上的女性,我们增加了第二代.
185So we started out with所以我们开始
186724 people.724人(图).
187Now we have over 2000 people in our study and we're still collecting data today.现在我们有2000多人在研究 我们今天仍在收集资料。
188Wow.珃
189And I know in the book you talk about how the advice you offer, the wisdom you offer,我知道你在书里谈到 你的建议和智慧
190is not just drawn from your own study because of some of what you suggested that, you know,不只是从你自己的书中抽出来的 因为你提出的一些建议
191you're just now starting to bring women and different generations.你刚刚开始 带来女人和不同的世代。
192And I guess could you我猜你会
193talk about some of the other gaps and why it's been important to also think about some of the谈谈其他一些差距 以及为什么还得考虑一下
194other studies out there on life and happiness?其他关于生活和幸福的研究?
195Yes, that's a really good point because是的,这是个很好的观点,因为
196particularly in this kind of research, no single study is proof of anything.特别是在这种研究中,没有一项研究能证明任何事情。
197That what we want这就是我们想要的
198is for different studies of different populations, so different ethnic groups,是针对不同的人群的不同研究, 所以不同的族裔群体,
199different cultural groups, different geographies, right?不同的文化群体,不同的地理,对不对?
200We want different studies to point in the我们希望不同的研究 指出
201same direction.同样的方向。
202And that's why I'm here and I can tell you with confidence, many studies所以我在这里 我可以自信地告诉你 很多研究
203point to all these same benefits of relationships.指出所有这些 关系的好处。
204And I know you touched on the health element我知道你碰过健康因素
205in your talk and shared that there is data that reveals that we have, that there's a strong在你的谈话和分享, 有数据显示 我们有,有一个强
206connection between happiness and health.幸福与健康之间的联系。
207And what have you specifically found related to happiness你具体发现什么与幸福有关
208and health outcomes?健康结果?
209What we find is that happiness turns out to make us age more slowly我们发现幸福会让我们年龄变慢
210and keep us able longer.并让我们能更长时间。
211So the diseases of aging that happen to all of us happen later.因此,发生在我们所有人身上的衰老疾病,后来就会发生。
212Sometimes they don't happen at all in people who are happier, have a greater sense of well-being.有时他们根本不会发生在那些更快乐,更幸福的人身上.
213And it's because of what I spoke about a few minutes ago, this kind of decrease in chronic是因为我几分钟前说的话 这种慢性病的减少
214inflammation and chronic stress.炎症和慢性应激.
215And so what we find is that we can't guarantee that any one person所以我们发现 我们无法保证任何人
216is going to stay happier or live longer if they have better relationships, but we find that there如果她们有更好的关系 会更快乐或更长寿 但我们发现
217are these ingredients, just like taking care of your health, not smoking, not abusing alcohol or是这些成分, 就像照顾你的健康, 不吸烟, 不滥用酒精或
218drugs, exercising regularly, getting regular healthcare, having access to healthcare.药物、定期锻炼、定期保健、获得保健服务。
219All of those things really matter for our health.所有这些事情对我们的健康都很重要。
220And you start the book with a question.你以一个问题开始这本书。
221You say,你说,
222if you had to make one life choice right now to set yourself on the path to future health and如果你现在不得不做出一个人生选择 让自己走上未来健康的道路
223happiness, what would it be?幸福会是什么?
224And from hearing your talk today, we know that the right answer to that从你今天的演讲中, 我们知道正确的答案
225question is to build more warm connections.问题是建立更温暖的联系
226But I want to ask you about the use of the word choice但我想问你选字的用法
227there and understanding more about whether or not having warm connections is a choice that we make.更深入地了解 是否有温暖的联系 是我们做出的选择
228Or to put it another way, are there qualities that each of us have that maybe make us more social或者说,换句话说,我们每个人的素质 都可能使我们更加社会化
229people, that these are just baked into our personalities?人们,这些只是烤 我们的个性?
230Can we decide to be a person who我们能决定成为一个
231makes connections?做连接?
232That's a really important point because we differ.这很重要,因为我们意见不同。
233We are all different in我们都不同
234how much connection we want and benefit from.我们希望和受益于多少联系。
235So some of us are introverts and that's just fine.所以我们有些人是内向者,这很好。
236That's perfectly normal.这是完全正常的。
237And introverts don't want a lot of connections.而内道者不欲多络.
238In fact, being with a lot of事实上,与很多
239people is exhausting for introverts.人们为内向而疲惫
240And so some people just need one or two good relationships.所以有些人只需要一两个好关系
241Everybody needs a little bit of connection, but some people actually don't need a lot.每个人都需要一点点的联系, 但有些人实际上并不需要太多。
242And so what we want to do is try to figure out for ourselves what's right for me.所以,我们想做的是 试着为自己找出什么是适合我的。
243And that还有
244involves really just tuning in and saying, okay, I'm energized by being with a lot of people,我和很多人在一起很兴奋
245so I'm going to do that.所以我会做到这一点。
246Or no, I'm exhausted by being with a lot of people.或者不,我累坏了 与很多人在一起。
247For me,对我来说
248a quiet conversation with one person is the most energizing thing I can do in the interpersonal和一个人安静的对话 是我在人际交往中所能做的最激动人心的事
249realm.领域。
250And so it's really a matter of discerning what's right for each person.所以,这其实是一个问题 辨别什么是正确的人。
251And what factors还有什么因素
252have you found contribute to that?你找到这个贡献了吗?
253Maybe things from early in life or childhood that might actually也许从生命早期或童年 可能实际上
254shape our ability to make these connections later in life?造就我们日后建立这些联系的能力?
255Yes.对
256So many of our social skills we我们的许多社交技巧
257learn when we're growing up.学我们长大后。
258We learn it in our families.我们在家里学的
259We learn it at school and on the我们在学校和学校学习过
260playground.游戏场。
261They can be learned and they can be improved as we get into adulthood.它们可以学习,并且随着我们成年而得到改进。
262They're not他们不是
263set in stone once we're done with childhood.一旦我们完成童年生活,就被扔到石头上
264So it's really important to see the ways that,所以,这真的很重要 看的方式,
265just like some of the suggestions I made, ways that you can practice getting better at this,就像我提出的一些建议一样, 你可以练习如何提高这个水平,
266because it really pays off.因为它真的有回报。
267But some people are not so good at this and they can have perfectly但有些人不擅长这个 他们可以有完美的
268wonderful, happy, healthy lives without being social butterflies and extroverts.美好的,快乐的,健康的生活 没有社会蝴蝶和外向者。
269And I just我刚刚
270want to name that so that people don't go away thinking, gosh, if I'm not an extrovert,要命名,这样人们就不会离开 思考,天哪,如果我不是一个外向者,
271I'm out of luck.我运气不好
272Not true at all.一点也不是真的
273Many of our happiest people had quieter lives.我们许多最幸福的人的生活比较安静
274And I guess to the tips that you offered in the talk, you talked about how we can build我想你在谈话中提供的提示 你谈到了我们如何构建
275warm connections, steps that we can take, and this idea of social fitness.温暖的连接,我们可以采取的步骤, 和这个社会健身的想法。
276And so I'm curious所以,我很好奇,因为...
277how can we actually assess our social fitness?我们怎样才能评估我们的社会健康?
278And as you said, just sort of understand what就像你说的,只是有点理解
279is right for us in terms of how many friends to have.就我们有多少朋友而言,这是正确的。
280And is it possible to sustain warm能否保持温暖
281relationships if you aren't really intentional in thinking about your social fitness?关系,如果你真的 有意考虑你的社交健身?
282That question of how do we assess our social fitness, it's really checking in and saying,我们如何评估我们的社交健身问题, 它真的在检查和说,
283am I as connected as I would like to be to other people?我和别人一样有联系吗?
284And if I'm not, what am I missing?如果我没有,我错过了什么?
285So这么说
286not all relationships provide us with the same stuff.并不是所有的关系 给我们提供同样的东西。
287Some relationships are relationships we有些关系是我们的关系
288have because they're fun.因为他们很有趣
289And so they're the people I like to go out and party with.所以我喜欢和他们一起出去玩
290Some relationships are the relationships that help me when I'm scared or hurting or worried有些关系是我害怕或伤害或担心时 帮助我的关系
291about something and I need someone to talk things over with.关于某件事 我需要有人来谈谈
292I need a sounding board,我需要一个探测板,
293a good advisor.一个很好的顾问。
294Some relationships are the people who loan me tools when I need to fix something有些关系是借我工具的人 当我需要修东西时
295and I don't have the right tool or give me a ride to the doctor.我没有合适的工具 也没有送我去看医生
296So part of it is checking in about所以它的一部分是检查
297what am I missing?我错过了什么?
298And then seeing what might be possible in terms of developing然后看看在发展方面能做些什么
299more of the relationships that give us the things we want more of.更多的关系给我们 我们想要的东西。
300And along those same lines, Ted member Tiana wants to know how do we define if a relationship同样地,Ted成员Tiana想知道我们如何定义关系
301is actually meaningful or not?到底有没有意义?
302I mean, it sounds like understanding what these voices are saying,我的意思是,这听起来像理解 这些声音在说什么,
303but are there other things we should pay attention to to know if it's valuable,但还有别的事情我们应该注意 想知道它是否有价值,
304if this is a one connection?如果这是一个连接?
305Yeah, one way to think about it is not whether the relationship是啊,一个思考的方法 不是关系
306is smooth all the time, but whether we feel that we can be authentic, we can be ourselves但无论我们觉得自己是真实的
307in a relationship.在一个关系。
308And obviously, we won't be the same selves in a work relationship that we很明显,我们不会是 自己在一个工作关系中,我们
309might be with our beloved sister.也许和我们亲爱的妹妹在一起
310But still, can I be myself in the most essential ways?但是,我能否以最基本的方式做我自己?
311Can I express myself?我可以表达自己吗?
312And can the other person express themselves?其他人能表达自己吗?
313Because I think that's where因为我认为那是
314what we really want is to feel known and to feel seen, and not to feel like we are having to我们真正想要的就是感觉知觉和被看见, 而不是感觉我们不得不
315maintain a facade that hides who we are.保持一个隐藏我们身份的外表
316And so the best relationships are those所以最好的关系是
317where we feel we can be ourselves.在那里,我们觉得我们可以成为自己。
318And you talked about how really it's it's你谈论了它到底是如何
319relationships, friendships, acquaintances.关系,友谊,熟人。
320I mean, all of these relationships matter.我的意思是,所有这些关系都很重要。
321But不过
322do you find that one of these is maybe more significant than the other?你是否觉得其中一个比另一个更重要?
323Or how do you look你怎么样?
324at them?在他们身上?
325I look at it in terms of the secure attachment we think about it.我从我们所想的安全依恋的角度来看待它。
326That's attachment这是附件
327is a word for being warmly securely connected.是一个词来表示 被热情安全连接。
328It's the who can you call in the middle of the是那个你可以在中间打电话的人
329if you're sick or scared.如果你生病或害怕的话
330So I think of it in those terms, not necessarily the person's role,所以我从这些角度来考虑 不一定是个人的角色
331defined role in our life, like romantic partner or boss, but it's the does this person have my back?就像浪漫的伴侣或老板 但却是这个人背着我?
332And so that's, I think, the defining element that we want to find somewhere in our world.因此,我认为,这就是我们想要在世界上找到的决定性因素。
333So we have so many member questions coming in, Bob, and I'm going to kind of go through a little所以,我们有很多成员的问题 来,鲍勃,我要有点经历
334a few more of them.再来几杯
335So Ted member Nancy wants to know if you think it's possible for an endemically所以Ted成员Nancy想知道你是否认为 有可能出现地方病
336unhappy person at some point in life to obtain happiness?不幸的人在生命的某个阶段 获得幸福?
337Yes.对
338And thank you for asking that谢谢你这么问
339question.问题。
340So we have a couple of life stories in our book, the book contains real stories of real我们的书里有一些人生故事 书里有真实的故事
341people.人们
342Every the names are disguised to protect confidentiality.每一个名字都伪装起来是为了保密.
343But some of those stories are of但其中一些故事是关于
344people who have big turnarounds late in life, people who were isolated and less happy and in晚年有大转折的人 被孤立的人 不太快乐的人
345their 60s found a whole community.他们的60年代找到了一个完整的社区。
346One man found a community at a gym that he never dreamed he would一个人在健身房里找到了一个社区 他从未想过会
347find.寻找。
348And so the message that we get from studying these thousands of lives is it is never too late.因此,我们从研究这数千条生命中得到的信息是,它永远不会太晚。
349And so don't assume that it's too late for you, even if you feel like you've had not had good所以不要假设 对你来说已经太迟了 即使你觉得自己没有好过
350luck with this in the past.运气在过去。
351Well, Bob, we're getting some questions about you.鲍勃,我们得到一些关于你的问题。
352And I want toи稱
353turn to you for a second.转过身来
354And I'm curious how running this study has changed the way you我好奇这个研究是如何改变你的
355approach life and your own pursuit of happiness.面对生活 追求幸福
356Gosh.天呐
357Well, one of the things that's helped me有一件事能帮助我
358is the idea that everybody has struggles in their life.是每个人生命中挣扎的念头
359That has been so meaningful to me这对我来说是如此有意义
360because I can also look at the world and say, gee, other people seem to have lives that have it all因为我也可以看看这个世界,说,天哪, 其他人似乎有生命 拥有这一切
361figured out and perfect lives.和完美的生活。
362It is so helpful to know that there isn't a person on the planet who知道这个星球上没有一个人
363doesn't have struggles.没有挣扎。
364And it makes me feel less alone when I can recognize that.当我意识到这一点时, 让我感到不那么孤独。
365And that's one就是这样
366of the reasons why I want to keep getting these messages out after having studied thousands of研究了几千个
367lives.活着
368And I think the other thing that it's changed is my own priorities.我认为改变的另外一件事 是我自己的优先。
369So I realize,所以我意识到,
370OK, I can sit here this afternoon and edit another paper or do more work or I can see my friend who好吧,我可以坐在这里 今天下午再编辑另一份论文 或者做更多的工作 或者我可以看到我的朋友谁
371I haven't seen in a month.我一个月没见了
372And so I've become more active in taking care of my relationships.所以我更积极处理我的关系
373And it还有
374makes a big difference.变化很大
375So I would say that those are the two big things for me that directing this所以我要说 这两件事对我来说很重要
376study has changed about my life.学习改变了我的生活
377Well, we have a question from Ted member Nisa.我们有泰德成员Nisa的问题
378They ask, as a他们问,作为一个
379mother of two very young children, what advice do you have for parents to build strong, healthy有两个孩子的母亲,你有什么建议 要父母建立强大,健康
380relationships now through adulthood?现在的关系直到成年?
381Or parents.或父母亲.
382It's really helping your children to pay attention这真的有助于你的孩子们注意
383to how they feel and to learn to use their feelings with more choice.学会用更多的选择来利用自己的感受
384So learning to love所以学会爱
385what they love and hang on to what they love, even if it's not so popular.他们所爱的和坚持的 他们所爱的,即使它不是那么流行。
386You know, I had a你知道,我有一个
387mother talk to me about how her child really loved doing improv comedy, and he's only 12.妈妈跟我说说她孩子真的喜欢做即兴喜剧 他才12岁
388And his friends don't like that.他的朋友不喜欢这样
389And so we talked about how do you help your child于是我们谈论了如何帮助你的孩子
390feel supported and loving what he loves and taking an improv class, right?感觉支持和爱他所爱的东西 并参加即兴表演,对不对?
391So helping your所以帮助你
392kids learn that it's okay to love something that's not the same as all the other kids in孩子们学会了爱一些 和孩子们不一样的东西
393their group and keep loving what they love and helping kids learn that it's okay to be unhappy继续爱他们爱的东西 帮助孩子们学会不开心是件好事
394and that that will pass, that feelings come and go, that it's okay to disagree.而那会过去, 感觉会来会去, 这是可以不同意的。
395Families can model,家庭可以模拟,
396parents can model for kids, we can have disagreements, we can work it out and hold父母可以做孩子的模特, 我们有分歧, 我们可以解决和坚持
397on to these good relationships, even through disagreements.即使通过分歧,这些良好的关系。
398Those are some of the biggest这些是最大的
399lessons we can help our children with about how to use their feelings rather than kind of be我们可以帮助我们的孩子 如何利用他们的感情而不是那种
400buffeted by their feelings and ruled by their feelings.被他们的感情所震撼 被他们的感情所支配
401I'm curious just where you see the我很好奇你从哪里看到
402study going from here.从这里开始学习
403We're collecting more data, even as we speak.我们正在收集更多的数据, 即使我们说话。
404We are collecting more我们收集的更多
405information from the children.儿童的信息。
406Almost all the original participants have passed away,几乎所有的原始参与者都去世了
407but their children are all baby boomers on average.但他们的孩子平均都是婴儿潮
408And so we're collecting information,所以我们收集信息,
409including about what life was like during the pandemic.包括疫情期间的生活
410Also collecting information about并收集下列信息:
411how they use social media, which is something we've all been talking about a bit here.他们如何使用社交媒体, 这是我们一直在谈论的一点。
412And I think in terms of the future, we see ourselves as wanting to make our data我认为从未来来看,我们自认为是想做我们的数据
413available to more and more researchers.越来越多的研究人员可以利用。
414So we want to collaborate and we do collaborate with所以我们想合作,我们确实合作
415other research groups.其他研究小组。
416We say, come in and use our data and ask new questions that we don't even我们说,进来使用我们的数据 问一些我们甚至不问的新问题
417think to ask, because we have this treasure trove of information about thousands of lives.想想看,因为我们有关于数千条生命的宝藏
418And then we're going to make it publicly available on public websites because, you know,然后我们会在公共网站上公布 因为,你知道,
419much of our work has been funded by the federal government, by NIH, with taxpayer money.我们的大部分工作 都由联邦政府,NIH出资, 以纳税人的钱。
420And so这样
421we feel a responsibility to make this information available to other researchers who want to ask我们感到有责任将这些信息提供给其他想问
422their own questions about our data.他们自己的问题 关于我们的数据。
423Well, Bob, you've shared so many great things with us.鲍勃,你和我们分享了很多伟大的东西
424You know, I feel like if people were listening and trying to absorb all of it and at the very end你知道,我觉得如果人们在倾听 并试图吸收所有的东西, 在最后
425of this conversation want just one nugget of information that if you miss everything,在这次谈话中,只要有一点信息 如果你错过了一切
426what is the one thing that you want everyone to walk away from at the end of this conversation?你想让大家在谈话结束时 离开的是什么?
427That if you want to make one choice today that will make you healthier and happier,如果你今天想做出一个选择 让你更健康更快乐
428it is to pay attention to improving your connections with other people, that that而是要注意改善你和别人的联系,那就是
429is such a good investment and it will pay off for years to come.这是一个很好的投资,它将在未来数年中有所回报。
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