白痴无处不在，如何应对？

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白痴无处不在，如何应对？ p01 中文字幕 (P1)

发布于 2026-08-18 · 时长 6:23

字幕摘录

时间	英文	中文
0:12	I built with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years	我建了各种人 在我的20多年
0:20	as a broadcast journalist.	作为广播记者。
0:22	Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations	最终,我发现 调和艰难的谈话
0:25	with whatever kind of difficult people you just thought of	和任何你刚刚想到的艰难的人
0:28	kind of simple to do.	很简单
0:30	Not easy, but simple.	不简单,但很简单。
0:32	The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.	诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
0:37	Closer.	近一点
0:38	Distance makes things worse.	距离让事情更糟。
0:41	I came up in public radio trained by old-school journalists	我上公共电台 接受老派记者的训练

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序号	英文	中文
1	I built with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years	我建了各种人 在我的20多年
2	as a broadcast journalist.	作为广播记者。
3	Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations	最终,我发现 调和艰难的谈话
4	with whatever kind of difficult people you just thought of	和任何你刚刚想到的艰难的人
5	kind of simple to do.	很简单
6	Not easy, but simple.	不简单,但很简单。
7	The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.	诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
8	Closer.	近一点
9	Distance makes things worse.	距离让事情更糟。
10	I came up in public radio trained by old-school journalists	我上公共电台 接受老派记者的训练
11	who taught me the art of neutrality.	他教我中立的艺术。
12	You neutralize your opinions, deaden your emotions,	你中和你的意见, 死你的情绪,
13	and you can get through most conversations without rolling your eyes.	而且你可以通过大多数的对话 不滚动你的眼睛。
14	Generally, it worked, and it built me a strong reputation for fairness.	一般来说,它奏效了,它为我赢得了公正的强烈声誉.
15	But when the subject matter felt personal, neutrality felt phony.	但当主题物感到个人, 中立感到虚假。
16	I used to host a national talk show on NPR called 1A,	我以前在NPR上主持全国脱口秀 叫做1A
17	and in one of our early programs I interviewed	在早期的节目中 我采访了
18	a descendant of Confederate soldiers.	邦联士兵的后裔.
19	He argued that Confederate monuments should be historically preserved.	他主张,邦联的纪念碑应该在历史上保存.
20	Now, as a black man, I felt enormous pressure to remain neutral,	现在,作为一个黑人, 我感到巨大的压力保持中立,
21	so I decided I was just going to focus on his arguments instead of on him.	所以我决定只关注他的争论 而不是他
22	His logic felt kind of flimsy, and I called him on it.	他的逻辑感觉有点虚弱,我打电话给他。
23	And eventually, he just folded, and he said,	最后,他只是折叠, 他说,
24	it really doesn't matter what I say.	我说什么都无所谓
25	And the moment he said that, I knew I had failed.	他这么说的那一刻 我就知道我失败了
26	I may have had a point,	我也许有一点,
27	but I missed a huge opportunity to really do my job.	但我错过了真正完成任务的良机
28	See, my neutrality allowed me to interrogate his beliefs,	你看,我的中立 允许我审问他的信仰,
29	but the distance prevented me from seeing why he believed them.	但距离让我无法理解他为什么相信他们
30	What if I had asked better questions?	如果我问了更好的问题呢?
31	Like, who influenced you the most in forming these views?	比如,谁在形成这些观点时影响你最多?
32	Or, suppose we let all of these monuments and statues stand,	或者,假设我们让所有这些 纪念碑和雕像站立,
33	just as they are.	就像他们一样
34	What would that mean to you?	那对你意味着什么?
35	Getting his story might have shown me him behind his canned arguments.	获取他的故事 可能已经告诉我他背后 他的罐头辩论。
36	Grilling him changed nothing.	折磨他什么也改变不了
37	It felt pointless.	感觉毫无意义
38	When you consider someone problematic,	如果你觉得有人有问题
39	there's a better way to deal with them,	有更好的方法对付他们,
40	keep your sanity,	保持你的理智,
41	and maybe even connect.	也许甚至连络。
42	And it sounds insane.	这听起来很疯狂。
43	Move closer.	靠近点
44	Not to embrace them, but to explore them,	不是拥抱他们 而是探索他们
45	like a doctor studying a sample.	就像医生在研究样本
46	You need a microscope, not a telescope.	你需要显微镜,不是望远镜
47	Doctors actually helped me learn this way before I became a journalist.	医生在成为记者之前 帮助我学了这个方法
48	As a teenager, I was part of a summer program for future doctors.	青少年时期,我曾参加过未来医生的暑期计划.
49	Clearly, it worked.	显然,它的工作。
50	And I found myself working with clinicians	我发现自己和临床医生一起工作
51	studying cancer and thrombosis and HIV, very serious conditions.	研究癌症、血栓症和艾滋病毒,病情非常严重。
52	I kind of naively expected them to be these crusading scientists,	我天真地期望他们 成为这些纠缠科学家,
53	but they were just level-headed people doing their jobs.	但他们只是头脑清醒的人 做他们的工作。
54	But there was a lesson in that level-headedness.	但是,在这种高端头脑中,有一个教训。
55	See, I am not neutral about the cancers in our world.	我对我们世界的癌症并不中立
56	Bigotry, hoaxes, political violence.	偏执,恶作剧,政治暴力.
57	I want them gone.	我要他们离开。
58	However, as a journalist,	然而,作为一个记者,
59	I often had to deal with them in my clinic, on the air.	我经常不得不在诊所里和他们打交道,在广播上。
60	I survived it by getting as close to those problems as I could	我靠尽可能接近那些问题活下来了
61	and studying them like samples in a Petri dish.	并研究它们 像样本在Petri菜。
62	In other words,	也就是说,
63	I had to shift from neutrality to objectivity.	我必须从中立转向客观。
64	And no, they're not the same.	不,他们不一样。
65	Objectivity is just when you park your emotions and learn,	客观性只是当你把情绪 和学习,
66	without judgment.	没有判断力。
67	I don't have to like it, I'm just here to learn from it.	我不必喜欢它,我只是在这里学习它。
68	Neutrality negates your opinions, as if you have no judgments.	中立否定了你的观点,好像你没有判断力。
69	Does anyone here honestly believe I have no opinions on race?	有人真的相信我对种族没有意见吗?
70	Right.	对
71	Now, notice I said park your opinions.	现在,注意,我说 停车你的意见。
72	When you park your car, you don't abandon it in the garage.	当你把车停在车库里的时候,你不会把它丢在车库里.
73	You're coming back for it.	你会回来的
74	So you can choose when to focus inward on what you think	所以,你可以选择什么时候 专注于你的想法
75	or outward on what you can learn.	或向外学习,
76	Of course, sometimes your car ain't where you left it,	当然,有时你的车不是你离开的地方,
77	and maybe your opinions will move, too.	也许你的意见也会改变
78	That maybe is why objectivity feels so vulnerable.	也许这就是客观感到如此脆弱的原因。
79	That's why it works.	故能通达.
80	That vulnerability is a sign of openness,	这种脆弱性是开放的表现,
81	and a conversation that's not open is pointless.	而不公开的对话是毫无意义的。
82	But if you can stay open, amazing things can happen.	但是,如果你能保持开放, 惊人的事情会发生。
83	Another time on NPR,	再来一次NPR
84	I was interviewing a former Baltimore police officer	我在采访巴尔的摩前警官
85	who had become this fiery advocate for law enforcement reform,	成为执法改革的狂热倡导者
86	and he was going on and on, just the long rant in autopilot,	他不停地不停地说着 自动驾驶的长话短说
87	just nyang nyang nyang nyang nyang nyang.	只是阴阳,阳阳,阳阳。
88	And I was trying to stay objective and listening as best I could,	我试图保持客观 并听尽我所能,
89	when I thought I heard his voice waver just a little.	当我以为听到他的声音有点动摇时
90	And in that waver, I detected more than his rage.	在那种动摇中,我发现的比他的愤怒还多.
91	It sounded like trauma.	这听起来像创伤。
92	So near the end of the interview, I mentioned, hesitantly,	所以在面试即将结束的时候 我犹豫地提到
93	that he seemed traumatized	他似乎受到创伤
94	by his experiences as a cop.	他的警察经历。
95	And could he reflect on that?	他能考虑一下吗?
96	He said,	他说,
97	I put people in prison cells who are better people than me.	我把人关进监狱里 他们比我好
98	Whoa.	珃
99	Sure enough, he went right back to his talking points,	当然,他回到他的谈话点
100	but it didn't matter,	但没关系,
101	because in that moment, that sliver of his story,	因为在那一刻, 他的故事的传承者,
102	his defenses dropped,	他的防守已经停止,
103	and he shifted from being right to being real.	他从正确转向真实
104	Look, some people are just difficult,	你看,有些人只是困难,
105	but we can deal with them more simply.	但我们可以更简单地处理它们。
106	Here are three tips to get you started.	这里有三个提示让你开始。
107	First, get the story,	首先,获取的故事,
108	particularly the key decisions and the turning points.	特别是关键决定和转折点。
109	What someone believes is not as important as how they chose to believe it.	有人相信的不是他们选择相信的那么重要
110	Second, my NPR host pro tip,	第二,我的NPR主持人 专业小费,
111	keep your questions short.	让你的问题简短。
112	Ten seconds tops.	十秒钟以上。
113	Long questions can feel like a setup or like you're rambling.	长的问题可以感觉像一个陷害 或者像你在胡闹。
114	And third, use that mental microscope.	第三,用那个显微镜
115	Look as closely as you can.	仔细看
116	Remember, you don't have to like it,	记住,你不必喜欢
117	but learn from it.	但从中学习。
118	It is time to reconnect even to the people you can't stand,	是时候连你无法忍受的人也重新联结起来
119	but this time, we're going to make those connections count.	但这次,我们要把这些连接计算在内
120	You could learn a lot from an idiot,	你可以从白痴那里学到很多东西
121	especially if you resolve never to act like one.	特别是如果你决心永远不要像那样
122	I really appreciate you all making time for me today.	我很感激你们今天给我时间
123	Thank you for listening.	谢谢你的聆听
124	Bye, everybody.	再见,各位

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P2 · 白痴无处不在，如何应对？ p02 英文字幕 (P2)

白痴无处不在，如何应对？ p02 英文字幕 (P2)

发布于 2026-08-18 · 时长 6:23

字幕摘录

时间	英文	中文
0:12	I built with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years	我建了各种人 在我的20多年
0:20	as a broadcast journalist.	作为广播记者。
0:22	Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations	最终,我发现 调和艰难的谈话
0:25	with whatever kind of difficult people you just thought of	和任何你刚刚想到的艰难的人
0:28	kind of simple to do.	很简单
0:30	Not easy, but simple.	不简单,但很简单。
0:32	The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.	诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
0:37	Closer.	近一点
0:38	Distance makes things worse.	距离让事情更糟。
0:41	I came up in public radio trained by old-school journalists	我上公共电台 接受老派记者的训练

展开字幕全文（124 条）

序号	英文	中文
1	I built with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years	我建了各种人 在我的20多年
2	as a broadcast journalist.	作为广播记者。
3	Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations	最终,我发现 调和艰难的谈话
4	with whatever kind of difficult people you just thought of	和任何你刚刚想到的艰难的人
5	kind of simple to do.	很简单
6	Not easy, but simple.	不简单,但很简单。
7	The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.	诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
8	Closer.	近一点
9	Distance makes things worse.	距离让事情更糟。
10	I came up in public radio trained by old-school journalists	我上公共电台 接受老派记者的训练
11	who taught me the art of neutrality.	他教我中立的艺术。
12	You neutralize your opinions, deaden your emotions,	你中和你的意见, 死你的情绪,
13	and you can get through most conversations without rolling your eyes.	而且你可以通过大多数的对话 不滚动你的眼睛。
14	Generally, it worked, and it built me a strong reputation for fairness.	一般来说,它奏效了,它为我赢得了公正的强烈声誉.
15	But when the subject matter felt personal, neutrality felt phony.	但当主题物感到个人, 中立感到虚假。
16	I used to host a national talk show on NPR called 1A,	我以前在NPR上主持全国脱口秀 叫做1A
17	and in one of our early programs I interviewed	在早期的节目中 我采访了
18	a descendant of Confederate soldiers.	邦联士兵的后裔.
19	He argued that Confederate monuments should be historically preserved.	他主张,邦联的纪念碑应该在历史上保存.
20	Now, as a black man, I felt enormous pressure to remain neutral,	现在,作为一个黑人, 我感到巨大的压力保持中立,
21	so I decided I was just going to focus on his arguments instead of on him.	所以我决定只关注他的争论 而不是他
22	His logic felt kind of flimsy, and I called him on it.	他的逻辑感觉有点虚弱,我打电话给他。
23	And eventually, he just folded, and he said,	最后,他只是折叠, 他说,
24	it really doesn't matter what I say.	我说什么都无所谓
25	And the moment he said that, I knew I had failed.	他这么说的那一刻 我就知道我失败了
26	I may have had a point,	我也许有一点,
27	but I missed a huge opportunity to really do my job.	但我错过了真正完成任务的良机
28	See, my neutrality allowed me to interrogate his beliefs,	你看,我的中立 允许我审问他的信仰,
29	but the distance prevented me from seeing why he believed them.	但距离让我无法理解他为什么相信他们
30	What if I had asked better questions?	如果我问了更好的问题呢?
31	Like, who influenced you the most in forming these views?	比如,谁在形成这些观点时影响你最多?
32	Or, suppose we let all of these monuments and statues stand,	或者,假设我们让所有这些 纪念碑和雕像站立,
33	just as they are.	就像他们一样
34	What would that mean to you?	那对你意味着什么?
35	Getting his story might have shown me him behind his canned arguments.	获取他的故事 可能已经告诉我他背后 他的罐头辩论。
36	Grilling him changed nothing.	折磨他什么也改变不了
37	It felt pointless.	感觉毫无意义
38	When you consider someone problematic,	如果你觉得有人有问题
39	there's a better way to deal with them,	有更好的方法对付他们,
40	keep your sanity,	保持你的理智,
41	and maybe even connect.	也许甚至连络。
42	And it sounds insane.	这听起来很疯狂。
43	Move closer.	靠近点
44	Not to embrace them, but to explore them,	不是拥抱他们 而是探索他们
45	like a doctor studying a sample.	就像医生在研究样本
46	You need a microscope, not a telescope.	你需要显微镜,不是望远镜
47	Doctors actually helped me learn this way before I became a journalist.	医生在成为记者之前 帮助我学了这个方法
48	As a teenager, I was part of a summer program for future doctors.	青少年时期,我曾参加过未来医生的暑期计划.
49	Clearly, it worked.	显然,它的工作。
50	And I found myself working with clinicians	我发现自己和临床医生一起工作
51	studying cancer and thrombosis and HIV, very serious conditions.	研究癌症、血栓症和艾滋病毒,病情非常严重。
52	I kind of naively expected them to be these crusading scientists,	我天真地期望他们 成为这些纠缠科学家,
53	but they were just level-headed people doing their jobs.	但他们只是头脑清醒的人 做他们的工作。
54	But there was a lesson in that level-headedness.	但是,在这种高端头脑中,有一个教训。
55	See, I am not neutral about the cancers in our world.	我对我们世界的癌症并不中立
56	Bigotry, hoaxes, political violence.	偏执,恶作剧,政治暴力.
57	I want them gone.	我要他们离开。
58	However, as a journalist,	然而,作为一个记者,
59	I often had to deal with them in my clinic, on the air.	我经常不得不在诊所里和他们打交道,在广播上。
60	I survived it by getting as close to those problems as I could	我靠尽可能接近那些问题活下来了
61	and studying them like samples in a Petri dish.	并研究它们 像样本在Petri菜。
62	In other words,	也就是说,
63	I had to shift from neutrality to objectivity.	我必须从中立转向客观。
64	And no, they're not the same.	不,他们不一样。
65	Objectivity is just when you park your emotions and learn,	客观性只是当你把情绪 和学习,
66	without judgment.	没有判断力。
67	I don't have to like it, I'm just here to learn from it.	我不必喜欢它,我只是在这里学习它。
68	Neutrality negates your opinions, as if you have no judgments.	中立否定了你的观点,好像你没有判断力。
69	Does anyone here honestly believe I have no opinions on race?	有人真的相信我对种族没有意见吗?
70	Right.	对
71	Now, notice I said park your opinions.	现在,注意,我说 停车你的意见。
72	When you park your car, you don't abandon it in the garage.	当你把车停在车库里的时候,你不会把它丢在车库里.
73	You're coming back for it.	你会回来的
74	So you can choose when to focus inward on what you think	所以,你可以选择什么时候 专注于你的想法
75	or outward on what you can learn.	或向外学习,
76	Of course, sometimes your car ain't where you left it,	当然,有时你的车不是你离开的地方,
77	and maybe your opinions will move, too.	也许你的意见也会改变
78	That maybe is why objectivity feels so vulnerable.	也许这就是客观感到如此脆弱的原因。
79	That's why it works.	故能通达.
80	That vulnerability is a sign of openness,	这种脆弱性是开放的表现,
81	and a conversation that's not open is pointless.	而不公开的对话是毫无意义的。
82	But if you can stay open, amazing things can happen.	但是,如果你能保持开放, 惊人的事情会发生。
83	Another time on NPR,	再来一次NPR
84	I was interviewing a former Baltimore police officer	我在采访巴尔的摩前警官
85	who had become this fiery advocate for law enforcement reform,	成为执法改革的狂热倡导者
86	and he was going on and on, just the long rant in autopilot,	他不停地不停地说着 自动驾驶的长话短说
87	just nyang nyang nyang nyang nyang nyang.	只是阴阳,阳阳,阳阳。
88	And I was trying to stay objective and listening as best I could,	我试图保持客观 并听尽我所能,
89	when I thought I heard his voice waver just a little.	当我以为听到他的声音有点动摇时
90	And in that waver, I detected more than his rage.	在那种动摇中,我发现的比他的愤怒还多.
91	It sounded like trauma.	这听起来像创伤。
92	So near the end of the interview, I mentioned, hesitantly,	所以在面试即将结束的时候 我犹豫地提到
93	that he seemed traumatized	他似乎受到创伤
94	by his experiences as a cop.	他的警察经历。
95	And could he reflect on that?	他能考虑一下吗?
96	He said,	他说,
97	I put people in prison cells who are better people than me.	我把人关进监狱里 他们比我好
98	Whoa.	珃
99	Sure enough, he went right back to his talking points,	当然,他回到他的谈话点
100	but it didn't matter,	但没关系,
101	because in that moment, that sliver of his story,	因为在那一刻, 他的故事的传承者,
102	his defenses dropped,	他的防守已经停止,
103	and he shifted from being right to being real.	他从正确转向真实
104	Look, some people are just difficult,	你看,有些人只是困难,
105	but we can deal with them more simply.	但我们可以更简单地处理它们。
106	Here are three tips to get you started.	这里有三个提示让你开始。
107	First, get the story,	首先,获取的故事,
108	particularly the key decisions and the turning points.	特别是关键决定和转折点。
109	What someone believes is not as important as how they chose to believe it.	有人相信的不是他们选择相信的那么重要
110	Second, my NPR host pro tip,	第二,我的NPR主持人 专业小费,
111	keep your questions short.	让你的问题简短。
112	Ten seconds tops.	十秒钟以上。
113	Long questions can feel like a setup or like you're rambling.	长的问题可以感觉像一个陷害 或者像你在胡闹。
114	And third, use that mental microscope.	第三,用那个显微镜
115	Look as closely as you can.	仔细看
116	Remember, you don't have to like it,	记住,你不必喜欢
117	but learn from it.	但从中学习。
118	It is time to reconnect even to the people you can't stand,	是时候连你无法忍受的人也重新联结起来
119	but this time, we're going to make those connections count.	但这次,我们要把这些连接计算在内
120	You could learn a lot from an idiot,	你可以从白痴那里学到很多东西
121	especially if you resolve never to act like one.	特别是如果你决心永远不要像那样
122	I really appreciate you all making time for me today.	我很感激你们今天给我时间
123	Thank you for listening.	谢谢你的聆听
124	Bye, everybody.	再见,各位

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发布于 2026-08-18 · 时长 6:22

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时间	英文	中文
0:12	I don't with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years	我20多年没和各种各样的人在一起了
0:20	as a broadcast journalist.	作为广播记者。
0:22	Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations	最终,我发现 调和艰难的谈话
0:25	with whatever kind of difficult people you just thought of	和任何你刚刚想到的艰难的人
0:28	kind of simple to do.	很简单
0:30	Not easy, but simple.	不简单,但很简单。
0:32	The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.	诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
0:37	Closer.	近一点
0:38	Distance makes things worse.	距离让事情更糟。
0:41	I came up in public radio,	我上公共电台

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序号	英文	中文
1	I don't with all kinds of people in my 20-plus years	我20多年没和各种各样的人在一起了
2	as a broadcast journalist.	作为广播记者。
3	Eventually, I found moderating tough conversations	最终,我发现 调和艰难的谈话
4	with whatever kind of difficult people you just thought of	和任何你刚刚想到的艰难的人
5	kind of simple to do.	很简单
6	Not easy, but simple.	不简单,但很简单。
7	The trick is to go somewhere I know you'd rather not be.	诀窍是在我知道你不想去的地方
8	Closer.	近一点
9	Distance makes things worse.	距离让事情更糟。
10	I came up in public radio,	我上公共电台
11	trained by old-school journalists who taught me the art of neutrality.	由老派记者训练 教会我中立的艺术。
12	You neutralize your opinions, deaden your emotions,	你中和你的意见, 死你的情绪,
13	and you can get through most conversations without rolling your eyes.	而且你可以通过大多数的对话 不滚动你的眼睛。
14	Generally, it worked, and it built me a strong reputation for fairness.	一般来说,它奏效了,它为我赢得了公正的强烈声誉.
15	But when the subject matter felt personal, neutrality felt phony.	但当主题物感到个人, 中立感到虚假。
16	I used to host a national talk show on NPR called 1A,	我以前在NPR上主持全国脱口秀 叫做1A
17	and in one of our early programs I interviewed	在早期的节目中 我采访了
18	a descendant of Confederate soldiers.	邦联士兵的后裔.
19	He argued that Confederate monuments should be historically preserved.	他主张,邦联的纪念碑应该在历史上保存.
20	Now, as a black man, I felt enormous pressure to remain neutral,	现在,作为一个黑人, 我感到巨大的压力保持中立,
21	so I decided I was just going to focus on his arguments instead of on him.	所以我决定只关注他的争论 而不是他
22	His logic felt kind of flimsy, and I called him on it.	他的逻辑感觉有点虚弱,我打电话给他。
23	And eventually, he just folded, and he said,	最后,他只是折叠, 他说,
24	it really doesn't matter what I say.	我说什么都无所谓
25	And the moment he said that, I knew I had failed.	他这么说的那一刻 我就知道我失败了
26	I may have had a point,	我也许有一点,
27	but I missed a huge opportunity to really do my job.	但我错过了真正完成任务的良机
28	See, my neutrality allowed me to interrogate his beliefs,	你看,我的中立 允许我审问他的信仰,
29	but the distance prevented me from seeing why he believed them.	但距离让我无法理解他为什么相信他们
30	What if I had asked better questions?	如果我问了更好的问题呢?
31	Like, who influenced you the most in forming these views?	比如,谁在形成这些观点时影响你最多?
32	Or, suppose we let all of these monuments and statues stand,	或者,假设我们让所有这些 纪念碑和雕像站立,
33	just as they are.	就像他们一样
34	What would that mean to you?	那对你意味着什么?
35	Getting his story might have shown me him behind his canned arguments.	获取他的故事 可能已经告诉我他背后 他的罐头辩论。
36	Grilling him changed nothing.	折磨他什么也改变不了
37	It felt pointless.	感觉毫无意义
38	When you consider someone problematic,	如果你觉得有人有问题
39	there's a better way to deal with them,	有更好的方法对付他们,
40	keep your sanity,	保持你的理智,
41	and maybe even connect.	也许甚至连络。
42	And it sounds insane.	这听起来很疯狂。
43	Move closer.	靠近点
44	Not to embrace them, but to explore them,	不是拥抱他们 而是探索他们
45	like a doctor studying a sample.	就像医生在研究样本
46	You need a microscope, not a telescope.	你需要显微镜,不是望远镜
47	Doctors actually helped me learn this way before I became a journalist.	医生在成为记者之前 帮助我学了这个方法
48	As a teenager, I was part of a summer program for future doctors.	青少年时期,我曾参加过未来医生的暑期计划.
49	Clearly, it worked.	显然,它的工作。
50	And I found myself working with clinicians	我发现自己和临床医生一起工作
51	studying cancer and thrombosis and HIV, very serious conditions.	研究癌症、血栓症和艾滋病毒,病情非常严重。
52	I kind of naively expected them to be these crusading scientists,	我天真地期望他们 成为这些纠缠科学家,
53	but they were just level-headed people doing their jobs.	但他们只是头脑清醒的人 做他们的工作。
54	But there was a lesson in that level-headedness.	但是,在这种高端头脑中,有一个教训。
55	See, I am not neutral about the cancers in our world.	我对我们世界的癌症并不中立
56	Bigotry, hoaxes, political violence.	偏执,恶作剧,政治暴力.
57	I want them gone.	我要他们离开。
58	However, as a journalist,	然而,作为一个记者,
59	I often had to deal with them in my clinic, on the air.	我经常不得不在诊所里和他们打交道,在广播上。
60	I survived it by getting as close to those problems as I could	我靠尽可能接近那些问题活下来了
61	and studying them like samples in a Petri dish.	并研究它们 像样本在Petri菜。
62	In other words,	也就是说,
63	I had to shift from neutrality to objectivity.	我必须从中立转向客观。
64	And no, they're not the same.	不,他们不一样。
65	Objectivity is just when you park your emotions and learn without judgment.	客观性只是当你把情绪放在一边,不带判断力地学习。
66	I don't have to like it, I'm just here to learn from it.	我不必喜欢它,我只是在这里学习它。
67	Neutrality negates your opinions, as if you have no judgments.	中立否定了你的观点,好像你没有判断力。
68	Does anyone here honestly believe I have no opinions on race?	有人真的相信我对种族没有意见吗?
69	Right.	对
70	Now, notice I said park your opinions.	现在,注意,我说 停车你的意见。
71	When you park your car, you don't abandon it in the garage.	当你把车停在车库里的时候,你不会把它丢在车库里.
72	You're coming back for it.	你会回来的
73	So you can choose when to focus inward on what you think	所以,你可以选择什么时候 专注于你的想法
74	or outward on what you can learn.	或向外学习,
75	Of course, sometimes your car ain't where you left it,	当然,有时你的车不是你离开的地方,
76	and maybe your opinions will move, too.	也许你的意见也会改变
77	That maybe is why objectivity feels so vulnerable.	也许这就是客观感到如此脆弱的原因。
78	That's why it works.	故能通达.
79	That vulnerability is a sign of openness,	这种脆弱性是开放的表现,
80	and a conversation that's not open is pointless.	而不公开的对话是毫无意义的。
81	But if you can stay open, amazing things can happen.	但是,如果你能保持开放, 惊人的事情会发生。
82	Another time on NPR,	再来一次NPR
83	I was interviewing a former Baltimore police officer	我在采访巴尔的摩前警官
84	who had become this fiery advocate for law enforcement reform,	成为执法改革的狂热倡导者
85	and he was going on and on, just the long rant in autopilot,	他不停地不停地说着 自动驾驶的长话短说
86	just yung, yung, yung, yung, yung, yung.	只见杨,杨,杨,杨.
87	And I was trying to stay objective and listening as best I could,	我试图保持客观 并听尽我所能,
88	when I thought I heard his voice waver just a little.	当我以为听到他的声音有点动摇时
89	And in that waver, I detected more than his rage.	在那种动摇中,我发现的比他的愤怒还多.
90	It sounded like trauma.	这听起来像创伤。
91	So near the end of the interview, I mentioned, hesitantly,	所以在面试即将结束的时候 我犹豫地提到
92	that he seemed traumatized by his experiences as a cop.	他似乎被警察的经历所创伤
93	And could he reflect on that?	他能考虑一下吗?
94	He said,	他说,
95	I put people in prison cells who are better people than me.	我把人关进监狱里 他们比我好
96	Whoa.	珃
97	Sure enough, he went right back to his talking points,	当然,他回到他的谈话点
98	but it didn't matter,	但没关系,
99	because in that moment, that sliver of his story,	因为在那一刻, 他的故事的传承者,
100	his defenses dropped,	他的防守已经停止,
101	and he shifted from being right to being real.	他从正确转向真实
102	Look, some people are just difficult,	你看,有些人只是困难,
103	but we can deal with them more simply.	但我们可以更简单地处理它们。
104	Here are three tips to get you started.	这里有三个提示让你开始。
105	First, get the story,	首先,获取的故事,
106	particularly the key decisions and the turning points.	特别是关键决定和转折点。
107	What someone believes is not as important as how they chose to believe it.	有人相信的不是他们选择相信的那么重要
108	Second, my NPR host pro tip,	第二,我的NPR主持人 专业小费,
109	keep your questions short.	让你的问题简短。
110	Ten seconds tops.	十秒钟以上。
111	Long questions can feel like a setup or like you're rambling.	长的问题可以感觉像一个陷害 或者像你在胡闹。
112	And third, use that mental microscope.	第三,用那个显微镜
113	Look as closely as you can.	仔细看
114	And remember, you don't have to like it, but learn from it.	记住,你不必喜欢它, 但学习它。
115	It is time to reconnect,	是时候重新连接了
116	even to the people you can't stand,	即使你无法忍受的人
117	but this time, we're going to make those connections count.	但这次,我们要把这些连接计算在内
118	You could learn a lot from an idiot,	你可以从白痴那里学到很多东西
119	especially if you resolve never to act like one.	特别是如果你决心永远不要像那样
120	I really appreciate y'all making time for me today.	我真的很感激你们今天给我时间
121	Thank you for listening.	谢谢你的聆听
122	Bye, everybody.	再见,各位

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