药都造出来了,为啥不便宜给穷人用?
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| 0:04 | I've been writing about global health and medical innovation for years. | 多年来我一直在写关于全球健康和医学创新的著作. |
| 0:09 | And when I tell my friends and family how much progress there's been, | 当我告诉我的朋友和家人 已经取得了多少进步, |
| 0:14 | the reaction is almost always the same. | 反应几乎总是一样 |
| 0:16 | They had no idea most of it was happening. | 他们根本不知道事情正在发生 |
| 0:20 | Take the most common cause of death today, heart disease. | 今取最常见的死因,心病. |
| 0:23 | People today have roughly a quarter the chance of dying from heart disease | 今天人们有四分之一的机会死于心脏病 |
| 0:27 | as people did in the 1950s, at the same age. | 和1950年代一样 年龄也一样 |
| 0:31 | A quarter. | 25块 |
| 0:33 | Back then, there were no statins, | 当时,没有统计, |
| 0:35 | no cholesterol testing, | 没有胆固醇测试, |
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| 1 | I've been writing about global health and medical innovation for years. | 多年来我一直在写关于全球健康和医学创新的著作. |
| 2 | And when I tell my friends and family how much progress there's been, | 当我告诉我的朋友和家人 已经取得了多少进步, |
| 3 | the reaction is almost always the same. | 反应几乎总是一样 |
| 4 | They had no idea most of it was happening. | 他们根本不知道事情正在发生 |
| 5 | Take the most common cause of death today, heart disease. | 今取最常见的死因,心病. |
| 6 | People today have roughly a quarter the chance of dying from heart disease | 今天人们有四分之一的机会死于心脏病 |
| 7 | as people did in the 1950s, at the same age. | 和1950年代一样 年龄也一样 |
| 8 | A quarter. | 25块 |
| 9 | Back then, there were no statins, | 当时,没有统计, |
| 10 | no cholesterol testing, | 没有胆固醇测试, |
| 11 | no implanted pacemakers, | 没有植入的起搏器, |
| 12 | no anti-smoking campaigns, | 没有禁烟运动, |
| 13 | no bans on trans fats, | 不禁食过量脂肪, |
| 14 | no bypass surgery, | 没有绕行手术, |
| 15 | no CPR. | 没有心肺复苏。 |
| 16 | But hardly anyone hears about the long-term impact of those breakthroughs. | 但几乎没有人听到这些突破的长期影响。 |
| 17 | When progress happens gradually, | 当进步逐渐发生时, |
| 18 | it's rarely considered news. | 这是很少考虑的新闻。 |
| 19 | And I think it's a problem. | 我认为这是一个问题。 |
| 20 | I think it's part of why people don't know how important it's all been. | 我认为这是人们不知道这一切有多重要的原因之一. |
| 21 | Public health, vaccines and all the rest, | 公共卫生、疫苗和其他一切 |
| 22 | and improving people's lives. | 改善人们的生活 |
| 23 | But what I want to tell you about is a thing that doesn't make the news at all. | 但我想告诉你的 是一个完全不做新闻的东西。 |
| 24 | Not the breakthroughs themselves, | 不是突破本身, |
| 25 | but everything that got in the way of them. | 但所有妨碍他们的东西 |
| 26 | I used to have this impression that breakthroughs were uncommon, sporadic, | 我以前的印象是 突破是不寻常的 零星的 |
| 27 | sometimes happening by pure chance, | 有时纯粹是偶然的 |
| 28 | sometimes by sheer determination. | 有时候,只有决心。 |
| 29 | The way I see it now, | 现在看来 |
| 30 | it's more like there's a continuous stream of medical innovation | 更像是医疗创新不断流传 |
| 31 | every year. | 每年 |
| 32 | In just the last two years, for example, | 例如在过去两年里 |
| 33 | we've had a new antiviral against HIV, | 我们用新的抗病毒药物抗病毒 |
| 34 | which protects against infections with an efficacy of nearly 100 percent, | 能够防止100%的感染, |
| 35 | with just a single dose given every six months. | 每六个月只给一剂 |
| 36 | There are new drugs that reduce cholesterol levels by 60 percent, | 有一些新药使胆固醇水平降低60%, |
| 37 | 超越了Statins的作用. | |
| 38 | There are new treatments that slow down the progression of certain cancers, | 有一些新疗法减缓了某些癌症的发展, |
| 39 | certain lung cancers, | 某些肺癌, |
| 40 | brain cancer and multiple myeloma by half or more. | 脑癌和多发性肌瘤 一半或更多 |
| 41 | And in just the last five years, | 在过去五年里, |
| 42 | we've had new vaccines against four diseases for the very first time. | 我们第一次接种了新疫苗来防治四种疾病。 |
| 43 | 当然,COVID, | |
| 44 | but also the first malaria vaccine, | 也是第一种疟疾疫苗 |
| 45 | 第一种Khikungunya疫苗 | |
| 46 | and the first vaccine against RSV. | 和第一个抗RSV的疫苗。 |
| 47 | The tools to develop new drugs and vaccines have improved enormously, | 研制新药和疫苗的工具有了极大的改进, |
| 48 | like genome sequencing, for example, | 比如基因组测序 |
| 49 | which has touched almost every part of biology. | 这几乎触及了生物学的每个部分。 |
| 50 | Back when the Human Genome Project was completed in 2003, | 早在2003年人类基因组计划完成时, |
| 51 | it cost 50 million dollars to sequence one person's genome, | 给一个人的基因组测序需要5000万美元 |
| 52 | and it took half a year. | 花了半年时间 |
| 53 | Now, it takes under four hours, | 现在,它需要四个小时, |
| 54 | and it costs a few hundred dollars. | 花费几百美元。 |
| 55 | There's also been a revolution in the technology of microscopes. | 显微镜技术也发生了革命. |
| 56 | Over the past 200 years, | 在过去的200年里, |
| 57 | their resolution has increased over 10,000-fold. | 它们的分辨率增加了10 000倍以上。 |
| 58 | We can now see viruses down to their individual atoms | 我们现在可以看到病毒的个体原子 |
| 59 | and design new drugs to target them extremely precisely. | 设计新的药物 以非常精确地瞄准他们。 |
| 60 | This is RSV, respiratory syncytial virus. | 这是RSV,呼吸同步病毒。 |
| 61 | It's in the middle right there, | 就在中间 |
| 62 | and we can now see its atomic structure on the right. | 现在我们可以看到它的原子结构 在右边。 |
| 63 | Until the 1930s, no one had ever seen a virus. | 直到1930年代,没有人见过病毒. |
| 64 | So if our technology has advanced so much, | 所以,如果我们的技术已经进步了这么多, |
| 65 | why are so many diseases still untreatable today? | 为什么今天这么多疾病仍然无法治疗? |
| 66 | What I've learned is that technology isn't always the barrier. | 我学到的是 科技并不总是障碍 |
| 67 | Sometimes it's about the funding, the institutions and the incentives. | 有时它涉及到资金,机构和奖励. |
| 68 | We recently got a new malaria vaccine, as I mentioned, | 最近我们得到了一个新的疟疾疫苗, 正如我提到, |
| 69 | and when I first heard about it, I was amazed. | 当我第一次听说的时候,我感到惊讶。 |
| 70 | I remember learning that malaria was a very complicated disease, | 我记得我知道疟疾是一种非常复杂的疾病 |
| 71 | scientifically. | 科学 |
| 72 | It's caused by a parasite, not a virus or bacterium, | 是由寄生虫引起的 不是病毒或细菌 |
| 73 | and that parasite changes shape multiple times during its life cycle, | 寄生虫在生命周期中多次变形, |
| 74 | which makes it really hard to know what to target with a vaccine. | 这使得很难知道用疫苗的目标是什么。 |
| 75 | So I wanted to write about it, this amazing breakthrough. | 所以我想写这个,这个惊人的突破。 |
| 76 | But one of the first things I learned about this new malaria vaccine | 但我学到的关于这个新疟疾疫苗的最初一件事 |
| 77 | that was introduced just a few years ago | 几年前才介绍的 |
| 78 | was that it was developed in the 90s, decades ago. | 是在90年代 几十年前开发的 |
| 79 | The researchers who developed it | 开发它的研究者 |
| 80 | struggled to find funding to test it at every stage of the process. | 努力寻找资金,在过程的每个阶段进行测试。 |
| 81 | There was no commercial incentive. | 没有商业奖励。 |
| 82 | It's not profitable to develop new drugs and vaccines | 研制新药和疫苗不赚钱 |
| 83 | against diseases that affect people in poverty in foreign countries, | 防止影响外国穷人的疾病, |
| 84 | even if millions of children might benefit, | 即使数百万儿童受益, |
| 85 | even if there's a huge economic benefit as well. | 即使还有巨大的经济利益 |
| 86 | It took foreign aid and philanthropy to fund the research to test it, | 需要外援和慈善机构资助研究 来测试 |
| 87 | and it literally took decades to reach the children who needed it. | 并且实际上花了几十年的时间 才能接触到需要它的儿童。 |
| 88 | When I learned about this, | 当我得知这一点, |
| 89 | I felt like there was nothing to celebrate. | 我觉得没什么好庆祝的 |
| 90 | It seemed more like a failure. | 这似乎更像是失败。 |
| 91 | How could we let that happen? | 我们怎么能让这种情况发生呢? |
| 92 | How could it take so long to test a vaccine that had already been developed, | 怎么会花这么长时间来测试已经研制出来的疫苗呢? |
| 93 | while half a million children were dying from malaria every year? | 每年有50万儿童死于疟疾? |
| 94 | Why wasn't that the story? | 为什么不是这个故事? |
| 95 | Those children aren't coming back, | 那些孩子不会回来了, |
| 96 | but what I wanted to know was how we could prevent that from happening again. | 但我想知道的是,我们如何防止这种情况再次发生。 |
| 97 | Like, what if we could change the economic incentives? | 比如,如果我们能改变经济刺激呢? |
| 98 | Well, economists have come up with an idea to do just that. | 经济学家已经想出了一个办法 |
| 99 | It's called an advanced market commitment. | 这被称为高级市场承诺. |
| 100 | It's where donors commit to buying a vaccine at a certain price per dose, | 捐献者承诺以每剂一定的价格购买疫苗, |
| 101 | but only if it's developed and proven safe and effective. | 但前提是它得到发展和证明 安全有效。 |
| 102 | That commitment gives companies the confidence to invest in it | 这种承诺让公司有信心投资 |
| 103 | in the first place, | 首先, |
| 104 | and it can bring vaccines into existence that would otherwise never get made. | 它可以带来疫苗 否则永远不会制造。 |
| 105 | And most importantly, it makes sure that they're manufactured at scale | 最重要的是,它确保它们被大规模制造 |
| 106 | and sold at an affordable price, | 以负担得起的价格出售, |
| 107 | so they reach children who need them. | 因此,他们接触到需要他们的孩子。 |
| 108 | That idea was used over a decade ago | 这个想法十几年前就用过了 |
| 109 | to help develop new vaccines against pneumococcal disease, | 协助研制防治肺炎球菌疾病的新疫苗, |
| 110 | which is a deadly bacterial infection of the lungs. | 这是肺部致命的细菌感染 |
| 111 | Vaccines already existed, | 疫苗已经存在 |
| 112 | but they didn't include the strains that were common in Africa and South Asia. | 但它们不包括在非洲和南亚常见的菌株. |
| 113 | So in 2009, several countries and philanthropists came together | 因此在2009年,一些国家和慈善家走到一起 |
| 114 | to fund an advanced market commitment for new vaccines. | 为新疫苗的预先市场承诺提供资金。 |
| 115 | And it actually worked. | 而且它实际上奏效了。 |
| 116 | Several companies developed them, | 几家公司开发了它们, |
| 117 | and they reached children much faster than usual. | 并且他们接触到儿童的速度比平常快得多。 |
| 118 | It's estimated that those vaccines | 估计这些疫苗 |
| 119 | have saved over 700,000 children's lives since then. | 自那时以来,拯救了70多万儿童的生命。 |
| 120 | This idea to fix market incentives is one way to speed up the process, | 改变市场激励的想法 是加快这一进程的一个途径, |
| 121 | but it's not the only thing we can do. | 但这不是我们唯一能做的 |
| 122 | Take childhood leukemia, for example. | 比如儿时白血病. |
| 123 | It used to be very difficult to test new treatments for the disease, | 以前测试新疗法很困难 |
| 124 | because leukemia is rare, | 因为白血病很罕见 |
| 125 | and individual hospitals struggle to find enough patients | 和个别医院为寻找足够的病人而挣扎 |
| 126 | to run clinical trials. | 进行临床试验。 |
| 127 | So researchers built networks across the US and later Europe and Canada | 研究人员在美国和后来的欧洲和加拿大建立了网络 |
| 128 | to help recruit patients from all over those countries | 帮助从这些国家招募病人 |
| 129 | into larger clinical trials. | 进入更大的临床试验。 |
| 130 | That collaboration made it possible | 这种合作使得 |
| 131 | to test treatments and learn what works faster. | 测试治疗 并学习什么工作更快。 |
| 132 | And it's why leukemia is no longer the disease it used to be. | 这也是为什么白血病不再是它曾经的疾病. |
| 133 | Before the 1970s, | 1970年代以前, |
| 134 | only around 15 percent of children with leukemia | 只有15%左右的白血病儿童 |
| 135 | would survive even five years from a diagnosis, | 能够活过五年的诊断 |
| 136 | that's the bottom line on these graphs, two types of leukemia. | 这就是这些图表的底线 两种类型的白血病 |
| 137 | Now, the top line, | 现在,第一线, |
| 138 | that figure is 85 percent. | 这个数字是85%。 |
| 139 | Most children in richer countries today survive | 今天富裕国家的大多数儿童都活下来了 |
| 140 | and are effectively cured of the disease. | 并被有效治愈疾病。 |
| 141 | This graph is thousands of children | 这个图是几千个孩子 |
| 142 | who wouldn't have survived without that collaboration, | 没有合作谁也不会活下来 |
| 143 | without that progress. | 没有这种进步。 |
| 144 | I want to give you another example. | 我想再举个例子 |
| 145 | Back when I was at university, | 我大学的时候 |
| 146 | we had a substitute lecturer one day on my course on infectious diseases, | 有一天,我们有位副讲师 在我的传染病课程, |
| 147 | and she told us that our original lecturer was away, | 她告诉我们我们的原讲师不在 |
| 148 | because he had gone to West Africa | 因为他去了西非 |
| 149 | to do research to develop an Ebola vaccine. | 研究研制埃博拉疫苗 |
| 150 | I remember sitting in that lecture theater at the back, | 我记得坐在后面那个讲演院里 |
| 151 | and I was thinking to myself, | 我想着自己, |
| 152 | can you just do that? | 你能这样做吗? |
| 153 | Can you just pack up and go? | 你能打包走人吗? |
| 154 | It hadn't even occurred to me. | 我根本没想过 |
| 155 | And it made me realize | 这让我意识到 |
| 156 | that all of these breakthroughs came from people like him, | 所有这些突破都来自他这样的人 |
| 157 | people who changed their lives to make them happen, | 改变他们的生活 让他们实现, |
| 158 | or people who thought differently, | 或有不同想法的人们, |
| 159 | whether they were scientists, economists, operators or managers. | 无论是科学家、经济学家、经营者还是管理人员。 |
| 160 | They created the incentives and institutions | 他们创造了激励机制 |
| 161 | so that generations in the future, all of us, | 以便后代,我们所有人, |
| 162 | wouldn't have to face the same problems that they did. | 也不必面对同样的问题 |
| 163 | And what's amazing is that we have an Ebola vaccine now | 令人惊奇的是,我们现在有埃博拉疫苗 |
| 164 | against the most common strain. | 对抗最常见的病毒 |
| 165 | It wasn't made by my lecturer, but by researchers like him. | 不是讲师做的 而是他这样的研究者做的 |
| 166 | And it was hard to develop and test it for all the same reasons. | 并且由于同样的原因,很难开发和测试它。 |
| 167 | There was little commercial incentive, | 没有什么商业刺激, |
| 168 | and it was hard to run clinical trials, | 很难进行临床试验, |
| 169 | because it was hard to predict where Ebola outbreaks would arise | 因为很难预测埃博拉的爆发地点 |
| 170 | and vaccinate people in advance. | 并预先为人们接种疫苗。 |
| 171 | So scientists came up with a different idea. | 于是科学家们想出了另一个想法。 |
| 172 | They waited for individual cases of Ebola to appear, | 他们等待埃博拉病毒的出现 |
| 173 | and then quickly vaccinated all of the people around them, | 然后很快地为周围的人接种了疫苗, |
| 174 | tested the vaccine that way. | 测试疫苗的方式。 |
| 175 | That idea, called ring vaccination, | 这个想法,叫做环疫苗, |
| 176 | helped find a vaccine that we now know is very effective. | 帮助找到一种疫苗,我们现在知道它非常有效。 |
| 177 | Now, these are just some of the ideas that people have had so far. | 现在,这些只是人们至今为止的一些想法。 |
| 178 | But what I've learned from them is that breakthroughs don't just happen | 但我从他们身上学到的 是突破不只是发生 |
| 179 | because we have the tools to make them. | 因为我们有制造它们的工具。 |
| 180 | They depend on how innovation happens in the real world. | 它们取决于创新在现实世界中是如何发生的。 |
| 181 | And there's something else that I've learned from them | 我从他们那里学到了其他东西 |
| 182 | that I find much harder to stomach. | 我发现更难胃。 |
| 183 | Many of them might not have happened at all. | 其中许多可能根本没有发生。 |
| 184 | So when I think back to that stream of innovation, | 所以当我回到创新的潮流时 |
| 185 | all of those breakthroughs and all of that progress that we've seen, | 所有这些突破和我们所看到的所有进步, |
| 186 | I do find it amazing. | 我确实觉得它惊人。 |
| 187 | It's incredible. | 不可思议. |
| 188 | But it also really frustrates me. | 但也让我很沮丧 |
| 189 | That's how much progress we've made, despite it being so hard. | 这就是我们取得了多少进展,尽管它是如此艰难. |
| 190 | The good news is people have come up with ideas to change that. | 好消息是人们想出了改变这种情况的想法。 |
| 191 | Some of them really work, like the ones I've told you about today, | 有些真的有用 就像我今天告诉你的那些 |
| 192 | and they just haven't been used enough. | 他们只是没有被充分使用。 |
| 193 | But we also need people to come up with new ideas | 但我们也需要有人提出新的想法 |
| 194 | and test them and scale them up, too. | 并测试和提升它们。 |
| 195 | I think it's more important than ever that we do it. | 我认为我们这样做比以往更重要。 |
| 196 | Because of cuts to science, global health and foreign aid, | 由于科学、全球卫生和外援的削减, |
| 197 | we have to find ways to make our resources go further. | 我们必须设法使我们的资源更进一步。 |
| 198 | Progress isn't inevitable. | 进步不是不可避免的。 |
| 199 | It takes people who decide to persist despite that. | 需要那些决定坚持下去的人 |
| 200 | And I think here it takes people who recognize something quite simple, | 我想这需要认识一些很简单的东西的人 |
| 201 | that diseases are not a fact of life. | 疾病不是生命的事实 |
| 202 | They're problems that we can solve. | 他们是我们能解决的问题。 |
| 203 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
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