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0:04Hello, everybody.哈罗,大家好。
0:04I am delighted to be here and grateful to all of you for joining us我很高兴来到这里,感谢大家加入我们
0:11for this discussion.本次讨论。
0:15In 2015, I gave a TEDx talk in a little elementary school auditorium.2015年,我在一所小小学礼堂做了TEDx演讲.
0:24And much to my surprise, the talk became one of the 10 most viewed talks in the history令人惊讶的是,这次谈话成为了有史以来 最受欢迎的10次会谈之一
0:31(原始内容存档于2019-03-21). Official website (TED).
0:34And in that talk, I conveyed one simple scientific finding, the finding that when在那次演讲中,我传达了一个简单的科学发现,即当
0:41we study hundreds of people over their entire adult lives, the people who turn out to be我们研究成百上千的人 在他们的整个成年生活, 人谁变成
0:48the happiest and the healthiest are those who have good, warm connections to others.最幸福、最健康的人就是那些与他人有良好、温暖关系的人。
0:56So today, I want to take you deeper into this whole subject by exploring how relationships因此,今天,我想让你更深入地 进入整个主题 通过探索如何关系
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1Hello, everybody.哈罗,大家好。
2I am delighted to be here and grateful to all of you for joining us我很高兴来到这里,感谢大家加入我们
3for this discussion.本次讨论。
4In 2015, I gave a TEDx talk in a little elementary school auditorium.2015年,我在一所小小学礼堂做了TEDx演讲.
5And much to my surprise, the talk became one of the 10 most viewed talks in the history令人惊讶的是,这次谈话成为了有史以来 最受欢迎的10次会谈之一
6(原始内容存档于2019-03-21). Official website (TED).
7And in that talk, I conveyed one simple scientific finding, the finding that when在那次演讲中,我传达了一个简单的科学发现,即当
8we study hundreds of people over their entire adult lives, the people who turn out to be我们研究成百上千的人 在他们的整个成年生活, 人谁变成
9the happiest and the healthiest are those who have good, warm connections to others.最幸福、最健康的人就是那些与他人有良好、温暖关系的人。
10So today, I want to take you deeper into this whole subject by exploring how relationships因此,今天,我想让你更深入地 进入整个主题 通过探索如何关系
11matter in our lives, how they affect our health, what kinds of relationships give us this big如何影响我们的健康 什么样的关系给我们带来这么大的
12benefit in happiness, and which tools you can start using today to make your relationship stronger.和哪些工具你可以开始使用今天 使你的关系变得更强。
13So I do direct this Harvard study of adult development.所以我指导了哈佛的成人发展研究。
14It's, as far as we know, the longest据我们所知,是最长的
15study of the same people that's ever been done following people since 1938, from adolescents从1938年起就跟随青少年学习过的人
16all the way through old age, and now following all their children, thousands of lives.现在跟随他们的孩子 数千条生命
17And we我们
18began to find, about 30 years ago, this startling connection between warm relationships and how30年前 开始发现 温暖的关系 是如何
19good our lives feel to us, our well-being, and also the fact that warm relationships我们的幸福 以及温暖的关系
20seemed to keep people both physically stronger and kept their brains sharper as they grew older.似乎使人们身体更强壮 脑部更锋利 随着他们长大
21And we didn't believe the data at first.我们起初不相信数据。
22We thought, how could this be that relationships我们想,怎么会是这种关系?
23actually get into our bodies and shape our health?真正进入我们的身体 并塑造我们的健康?
24But then other studies began to find但后来其他研究开始发现
25the same thing.同样的事情。
26We found that people had less depression, they were less likely to get diabetes我们发现人们的抑郁症较少, 他们不太可能患糖尿病
27and heart disease, that they recovered faster from illness when they had better connections和心脏病, 他们从疾病恢复得更快 当他们有更好的联系
28with other people.和别人
29So then the question is, how could this work?那么问题是,这怎么行呢?
30How do relationships shape our关系如何塑造我们
31happiness and our physical health?快乐和身体健康?
32Well, one of the best theories, for which there's now some好吧,最好的理论之一, 现在有一些
33good evidence, is based on the idea of stress.良好的证据,是基于压力的想法。
34That, as we know, stress is an inevitable part我们知道,压力是不可避免的
35of all of our lives.我们所有的生命。
36Stress happens to us every day.我们每天都有压力
37And what we find is that good relationships我们发现的就是良好的关系
38turn out to be stress regulators.变成压力调节器
39So let me give you an example.让我举个例子。
40Let's say that I have something这么说吧 我有东西
41upsetting happen to me during the day, and I find myself ruminating about it and really thinking白天我心烦意乱,我发现自己在反省,真的在想
42about it and unhappy.关于它和不高兴。
43I can feel my body go into what we call fight or flight response,我能感觉到我的身体进入我们所说的战斗或飞行反应,
44where literally my heart rate goes up and I might start sweating a little bit,从字面上说,我的心率上升, 我可能开始出汗一点点,
45and I'm just not feeling as well.我只是感觉不太好。
46Now, what we're meant to do is to come back to equilibrium现在我们要做的是回到平衡
47when a stressor goes away.当压力消失时
48That's the way the body's supposed to work.即是体性无碍.
49But what happens但会发生什么
50if I go home at the end of my upsetting day and I have somebody to talk to?如果我在烦恼的一天结束时回家... ...我还有人要和他谈谈?
51Either I can call要么我打电话
52someone on the phone or it's somebody I live with.打电话的人 或者是我和他住在一起的人
53I can literally feel my body calm down.我可以感觉到我的身体冷静下来。
54I can feel that fight or flight response subside.我能感觉到战斗或飞行反应减弱了
55But what if I don't have anybody to go home to?但如果我没有人可以回家呢?
56What if there's nobody I can call?如果没有人我可以打电话呢?
57What we find is that people who are isolated, are lonely,我们发现,那些孤立,孤独的人,
58don't have those stress regulators that we get from good relationships.没有那些压力调节 我们从良好的关系。
59And that we stay而我们留下
60in chronic fight or flight mode, that our bodies have this chronic stress, chronic levels of在长期搏斗或飞行模式下, 我们的身体有这种长期的压力, 慢性水平
61inflammation and circulating stress hormones that wear away our happiness and break down炎症和循环 压力激素 耗尽我们的幸福和破解
62different body systems.不同的身体系统。
63Well, what kinds of relationships seem essential to well-being?那么,什么样的关系 似乎对福祉至关重要?
64And this is interesting.这很有趣。
65We asked people who were our original participants in our study,我们问那些最初参加我们研究的人
66we asked them, who could you call in the middle of the night if you were sick or scared?我们问他们 如果你生病或害怕 你半夜能给谁打电话?
67And many of our people could list several other people they could call if they were in trouble.我们很多人可以列出其他几个人 如果有麻烦,他们可以打电话。
68Some people couldn't list anyone.有些人不能列出任何人。
69There wasn't a person on the planet who they could turn to if地球上没有一个人 他们可以转向,如果
70they were sick or scared.他们生病或害怕。
71And what we find is that having at least one person in your life我们发现你一生中至少有一个人
72who you feel really has your back, who you could go to if you were in trouble,你感觉自己真的有你的背, 如果你有麻烦,你可以去找谁,
73that's essential for maintaining our happiness and our health.这对维持我们的幸福和健康至关重要。
74When we asked these same people,当我们问这些人,
75when they got to be in their 80s, to look back on their lives and to tell us what they were proudest当他们八十多岁时,回顾他们的生活,告诉我们他们最骄傲的事
76of, almost everybody said something about their relationships.几乎每个人都说 他们的关系。
77They didn't say,他们没有说,
78I made a lot of money or I won some big awards.我赚了很多钱 或者我得到了一些大奖。
79They said, I was a good mentor.他们说我是个好导师
80I was a good我是个好人
81friend.哥们儿
82I raised healthy kids.我养了健康的孩子。
83I was a good partner.我是一个很好的伙伴。
84And so what we find is that what seems所以,我们发现的是,似乎
85to mean the most to people when they get to the end of their lives is the strength and the warmth当人们到达生命的尽头时, 意义最大的是力量和温暖
86of their connections to others.他们与他人的关系。
87So then the question comes up, well, which types of relationships那么问题就出现了,哪类关系
88support our well-being?支持我们的福祉?
89Some people have asked, do I need to be in an intimate relationship to get有人问,我是否需要 在一个亲密的关系
90this benefit?这个好处?
91Absolutely not.绝对不是。
92All types of relationships support our well-being.各种关系都支持我们的福祉。
93So这么说
94friendships, relatives, work colleagues, casual contacts, the person who gets you your coffee朋友 亲戚 同事 临时联系人 帮你买咖啡的人
95every morning at Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts, the person who checks you out in the grocery store,每天早上在星巴克或Dunkin甜甜圈, 在杂货店检查你的人,
96who you see maybe every week, even talking to strangers has that benefit.你可能每周都见到他 甚至和陌生人说话都有好处
97So they did an所以他们做了一个
98experiment where they assigned some people who were about to go on the subway, the task of talking在那里,他们分配了一些人 谁即将上地铁, 谈话的任务
99{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH
100their phones or listening to music or reading.他们的电话或听音乐或阅读。
101It turned out that the people who were assigned to结果发现那些被派去...
102strangers didn't think they were going to like it, but they turned out to be much happier陌生人不认为他们会喜欢 但结果他们更快乐
103at the end of the task than the people who just rode the subway keeping to themselves.在任务结束时 比那些刚坐地铁的人要保守秘密
104So even所以连
105talking to strangers gives us that little hit of well-being from relationships.和陌生人谈话 给我们带来幸福感
106So the question所以问题
107comes up, how can we strengthen our connections with other people?我们怎样才能加强我们与其他人的联系?
108And this is where we've come to这就是我们来的地方
109think about it as a kind of social fitness.把它视为一种社交健身
110If we think about physical fitness, we think,如果我们考虑身体健康,我们想,
111okay, I'll go to the gym, I'll work out, I'll take a long walk, I'll do something to keep myself好吧,我去健身房,我会锻炼,我会走很长的路,我会做一些事情来保持自己
112strong and fit.强壮又合身
113But then we come home and we don't say, I'm done, I don't ever have to do that again.但是,然后我们回家,我们不说, 我结束了,我再也不做。
114We have the sense that physical fitness is a practice that we need to maintain over time.我们感到,身体健康是我们需要长期保持的一种做法。
115It turns out that social fitness is the same, that in fact, our friendships, our relationships原来社会健身是一样的,事实上,我们的友谊,我们的关系
116don't just take care of themselves, that even good relationships need tending to, they need不要只是照顾自己, 即使良好的关系需要照顾, 他们需要
117attention, they need returning to them over and over again.注意,他们需要一次又一次地回到他们身边。
118So what are some ways that we can我们能用什么方法
119strengthen our relationships?加强我们的关系?
120Well, one way is to be proactive, to take the initiative.一种方法是主动主动主动
121So to reach为了达到
122out to a friend and ask her to take a walk instead of spending two more hours on your laptop去找一个朋友 让她出去走走 而不是多花两个小时在你的笔记本电脑上
123this weekend on Saturday afternoon.这个周末是星期六下午
124Establish some routines with the people who are most important和最重要的人一起做一些例行公事
125{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}给你一个正常的电话 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}或咖啡 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}每周六跟一个你真正想要确定的人
126you see regularly, or meeting somebody at the gym or having lunch with a coworker.你经常看到,或者在健身房见人 或和同事共进午餐。
127The other thing还有一件事
128we can do is liven up those long-standing relationships, particularly like the people我们能做的就是恢复这些长期的关系 特别是像人们一样
129we live with, people we can come to take for granted by proposing to do something new,和我们一起生活的人, 我们可以认为理所当然 通过建议做一些新的,
130going out on a date, just taking a walk if that's not your usual routine.出去约会,只是散步 如果这不是你通常的习惯。
131The other thing that we还有一件事,我们
132know works to help people, particularly who aren't as connected to others as they want to be,知道工作帮助人, 特别是谁没有 与其他人的联系 他们想成为,
133is to connect around shared interests.将共同利益联系起来。
134So volunteer in the community to do something that you care所以在社区里自愿做一些你在乎的事
135about.有关。
136It might be a gardening club, it might be a bowling league, it might be a political cause,它可能是一个园艺俱乐部, 它可能是一个保龄球联赛, 它可能是一个政治事业,
137but to do something that you care about because then you're with other people who care about the但做一些你关心的事 因为那时你和其他人 谁关心
138same thing and that's a natural place to start conversations that can lead to ongoing relationships.同样的事情,这是一个自然的地方 开始对话,可以导致持续的关系。
139And finally, get more comfortable striking up casual conversations.最后,让大家更舒服地开始闲聊
140That's something we can这是我们可以做的
141learn to be more comfortable with, almost like exercising a muscle.学着更自在 就像锻炼肌肉一样
142So now I would like to ask所以现在我想问
143you to do one of these things, to make one of these choices that we can make every day.你做这些事情之一, 做出这些选择之一 我们可以每天做出。
144I'd like you我想让你
145make that choice right now.现在就做这个选择
146Here's my challenge to you.这是我的挑战
147Think about someone you miss, that you想想你想念的人,你是谁
148just haven't seen in a while or you haven't had contact with and you'd like to make contact.有段时间没看见了 或者你没有接触过 而且你想联系
149You don't even have to have a particular reason.你甚至没有 特别的理由。
150Now, I want you to take out your phone or whatever现在,我要你拿出你的手机或什么的
151device you use right now and send that person just a little note.你现在用的设备 给那个人发个小信
152It could say, I'm just thinking它可能说,我只是在想
153of you and wanted to connect, or you could say something more personal to you and to your想要联结起来, 或者你可以说一些 对你和你的私人
154relationship, and then watch what comes back to you.关系,然后看 回到你身上。
155And while we're here, we might even have time当我们在这里,我们甚至可能有时间
156to share with each other some of the responses that people get when they do this.互相分享人们在这样做时得到的一些回应。
157So think of someone所以想一个人
158and make contact right now.马上联系我
159The point of this simple exercise is to remind us that even small这个简单的练习的要点是提醒我们,即使很小,
160actions can have ripple effects that build our wellbeing and that these are things you can do行动可以产生连锁效应 建立我们的福祉 这些是你能够做的
161every day in the moment.每天在那一刻。
162Thank you.谢谢
163One way I'd love to kick things off, Bob,一种方式,我喜欢踢东西,鲍勃,
164you mentioned at the top of the conversation, the top of your talk rather, that you run this你在谈话的顶端, 你说话的顶端,你运行这个
165Harvard study of adult development and gave us sort of a snippet of what that is.哈佛大学对成人发展的研究, 并给出了我们一个小片段。
166But could you但你可以吗?
167tell us a little bit more about the study?告诉我们更多的研究?
168What does it track?它追踪到什么?
169Why did it start?为什么开始?
170Who's in the study谁在书房
171today?今天吗?
172Absolutely.当然
173The study started in 1938, and it started with two groups, a group of Harvard研究始于1938年,开始于两组,一组是哈佛大学
174college undergrads, and it started with a group of inner city boys who were in elementary school or大学的低年级,开始于一些 内城的男孩在小学或
175from really disadvantaged, troubled families.来自非常不利,麻烦的家庭。
176And each study was trying to look at how people can每一个研究都试图研究人们如何能够
177take healthy developmental paths.走上健康的发展道路。
178And so the idea was not to study what goes wrong in our lives,所以这个想法不是研究我们生活中的错
179but what goes right in our lives and some of the factors that contribute to helping things go well但是我们生活中的正确之处 和一些有助于帮助事物顺利发展的因素
180in human development.在人类发展方面。
181Needless to say, we started out with boys, all males, but we've added women.不用说,我们一开始是男的,都是男的,但我们增加了女的。
182We have more than half women now, and we've added the second generation.我们现在有一半以上的妇女,我们增加了第二代.
183So we started out with 724我们从724开始
184people.人们
185Now we have over 2000 people in our study, and we're still collecting data today.现在我们的研究中有2000多人, 我们今天仍在收集数据。
186Wow.珃
187And I know in the book, you talk about how the advice you offer, the wisdom you offer,我在书里知道,你谈到你的建议,你提供的智慧,
188is not just drawn from your own study, because of some of what you suggested that, you know,不只是从你自己的研究中抽出来, 因为你建议,你知道,
189you're just now starting to bring women and different generations.你刚刚开始 带来女人和不同的世代。
190And I guess could you我猜你会
191talk about some of the other gaps and why it's been important to also think about some of the谈谈其他一些差距 以及为什么还得考虑一下
192other studies out there on life and happiness?其他关于生活和幸福的研究?
193Yes, that's a really good point, because是的,这是个很好的观点,因为
194particularly in this kind of research, no single study is proof of anything.特别是在这种研究中,没有一项研究能证明任何事情。
195That what we want is我们想要的就是
196for different studies of different populations, so different ethnic groups, different cultural对不同人口、不同种族、不同文化
197groups, different geographies, right?团体,不同的地理,对不对?
198We want different studies to point in the same direction.我们希望不同的研究能指向同样的方向.
199And that's why I'm here, and I can tell you with confidence, many studies point to all these same所以我才来这里 我可以自信地告诉你 很多研究都指出
200benefits of relationships.关系的好处。
201And I know you touched on the health element in your talk and share that我知道你在谈话中触及健康因素 并分享
202there is data that reveals that we have, that there's a strong connection between happiness有数据显示我们有 幸福之间有很强的联系
203and health.健康与卫生。
204And what have you specifically found related to happiness and health outcomes?你具体发现什么 与幸福和健康结果有关?
205What we find is that happiness turns out to make us age more slowly and keep us able longer.我们发现,幸福会让我们 年龄变慢,让我们更长。
206So the所以说
207diseases of aging that happen to all of us happen later.发生在我们所有人身上的衰老疾病后来就会发生。
208Sometimes they don't happen at all.有时候它们根本不会发生
209In内
210particular, people who are happier have a greater sense of well-being.特别是,更幸福的人有更大的幸福感。
211And it's because of what I是因为我
212spoke about a few minutes ago, this kind of decrease in chronic inflammation and chronic几分钟前说过 慢性炎症和慢性炎
213stress.压力
214And so what we find is that we can't guarantee that any one person is going to stay所以,我们发现,我们无法保证 任何人将留下
215happier or live longer if they have better relationships.如果他们有更好的关系 就会更快乐或更长寿
216But we find that there are these但我们发现有这些
217like taking care of your health, not smoking, not abusing alcohol or drugs, exercising regularly,就像照顾你的健康, 不吸烟, 不滥用酒精或毒品, 经常锻炼,
218getting regular health care, having access to health care.获得正规保健,并获得保健服务。
219All of those things really matter所有这些事情都很重要
220for our health.我们的健康。
221And you start the book with a question.你以一个问题开始这本书。
222You say, if you had to make one你说,如果你必须做一个
223life choice right now to set yourself on the path to future health and happiness,生命的选择,现在让自己 踏上未来健康和幸福的道路,
224what would it be?会是什么?
225And from hearing your talk today, we know that the right answer to that从你今天的演讲中, 我们知道正确的答案
226question is to build more warm connections.问题是建立更温暖的联系
227But I want to ask you about the use of the word choice但我想问你选字的用法
228there.这里
229And understanding more about whether or not having warm connections is a choice that we make.更了解是否有温暖的连接 是我们做出的选择。
230Or to put it another way, are there qualities that each of us have that maybe make us more或者说 换句话说 我们每个人的特质
231social people, that these are just baked into our personalities?社会人士, 这些只是烤 我们的人格?
232Can we decide to be a person who我们能决定成为一个
233has connections?有联系吗?
234That's a really important point because we differ.这很重要,因为我们意见不同。
235We are all different in how我们都不同
236much connection we want and benefit from.我们想要和受益于许多联系。
237So some of us are introverts and that's just fine.所以我们有些人是内向者,这很好。
238That's这是
239perfectly normal.完全正常。 完全正常。
240And introverts don't want a lot of connections.而内道者不欲多络.
241In fact, being with a lot of people事实上,和很多人在一起
242is exhausting for introverts.对内向者来说很累
243And so some people just need one or two good relationships.所以有些人只需要一两个好关系
244Everybody每个人
245needs a little bit of connection, but some people actually don't need a lot.但有些人实际上并不需要太多。
246And so what we want to所以,我们想
247do is try to figure out for ourselves what's right for me.试着为自己找出什么才是对的
248And that involves really just tuning in这涉及到真正的调整
249and saying, okay, I'm energized by being with a lot of people, so I'm going to do that.并说,好吧, 我充满活力 与很多人, 所以我要去做到这一点。
250Or no,或者没有
251I'm exhausted by being with a lot of people.我累透了 和很多人在一起
252For me, a quiet conversation with one person对我来说,一个安静的谈话 一个人
253is the most energizing thing I can do in the interpersonal realm.这是我在人际交往领域所能做的最激动人心的事。
254And so it's really a matter所以这真的是一个问题
255of discerning what's right for each person.辨别什么是每个人的权利。
256And what factors have you found contribute to that?你发现哪些因素促成了这种情况?
257Maybe things from early in life or childhood that might actually shape our ability to make these也许从生命早期或童年开始 可能真正塑造我们制造这些东西的能力
258connections later in life?晚点再联系?
259Yes.对
260So many of our social skills we learn when we're growing up,我们长大后学会了很多社交技巧
261we learn it in our families, we learn it at school and on the playground.在学校和操场上学习
262They can be learned and他们可以学习
263they can be improved as we get into adulthood.它们可以随着我们成年而改善。
264They're not set in stone once we're done with我们一完事,它们就不是石头了
265childhood.童年时
266So it's really important to see the ways that, just like some of the suggestions I所以,真正重要的是 要看到的方式, 就像一些建议,我
267{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你能够练习更好的方法 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}因为它真的有回报
268But some people不过有些人
269are not so good at this and they can have perfectly wonderful, happy, healthy lives他们不擅长这个 而且他们可以有 完美,快乐,健康的生活
270without being social butterflies and extroverts.而不是社交上的蝴蝶和外向者
271And I just want to name that so that people don't我只想给它取个名字 这样人们就不会
272go away thinking, gosh, if I'm not an extrovert, I'm out of luck.想想吧,天啊,如果我不是外向者,我运气不好
273Not true at all.一点也不是真的
274Many of our我们的许多
275happiest people had quieter lives.最幸福的人的生活比较安静
276And I guess to the tips that you offered in the talk,我想你在谈话中提供的提示
277you talked about how we can build warm connections, steps that we can take,你谈到我们如何建立温和的联系, 我们可以采取的步骤,
278and this idea of social fitness.以及这个社会健身的想法。
279And so I'm curious, how can we actually assess our social所以我很好奇 我们怎样才能真正评估我们的社交
280fitness?健身吗?
281And as you said, just sort of understand what is right for us in terms of how many friends正如你说的,只是有点理解 什么是对我们正确的,从有多少朋友
282to have?拥有?
283And is it possible to sustain warm relationships if you aren't really intentional如果你真的不是故意的 也可以保持温暖的关系
284in thinking about your social fitness?考虑你的社交健身?
285That question of how do we assess our social fitness?我们如何评估我们的社交健身问题?
286It's really checking in and saying, am I as connected as I would like to be to other people?我是不是和我想和其他人一样有联系?
287And if I'm not, what am I missing?如果我没有,我错过了什么?
288So not all relationships provide us with the same stuff.所以并不是所有的关系都给我们提供同样的东西。
289Some relationships are relationships we have because they're fun, you know?有些关系是我们有的关系 因为它们很有趣,你知道吗?
290And so they're所以他们是
291people I like to go out and party with.我喜欢出去玩玩的人
292Some relationships are the relationships that help有些关系是有用的
293me when I'm scared or hurting or worried about something and I need someone to talk things over当我害怕或伤害或担心什么 我需要有人来谈谈事情
294with.带。
295I need a sounding board, a good advisor.我需要一个监听板 一个很好的顾问
296Some relationships are the people who, you know,有些关系是,你知道,
297loan me tools when I need to fix something and I don't have the right tool or give me a ride to当我需要修东西时借我工具 我没有合适的工具或者送我到
298the doctor.医生
299So part of it is checking in about what am I missing and then seeing what might be所以其中一部分是查一下我错过了什么 然后看看可能是什么
300in terms of developing more of the relationships that give us the things we want more of.发展更多的关系 给我们更多的东西
301And along those same lines, Ted member Tiana wants to know how do we define if a relationship同样地,Ted成员Tiana想知道我们如何定义关系
302is actually meaningful or not?到底有没有意义?
303I mean, it sounds like understanding what these voices are saying,我的意思是,这听起来像理解 这些声音在说什么,
304but are there other things we should pay attention to to know if it's valuable,但还有别的事情我们应该注意 想知道它是否有价值,
305if this is a warm connection?如果这是一个温暖的连接?
306Yeah.对
307One way to think about it is not whether the relationship考虑这个问题的方法之一 不是关系
308is smooth all the time, but whether we feel that we can be authentic, we can be ourselves但无论我们觉得自己是真实的
309in a relationship.在一个关系。
310And obviously we won't be the same selves in a work relationship that we might很明显,在工作关系中我们不会是同一个人
311be with our, you know, beloved sister, you know, but still can I be myself in the most essential和我们,你知道,亲爱的妹妹,你知道, 但我仍然可以做我自己 在最重要的
312ways?方法吗?
313Can I express myself and can the other person express themselves?我能表达自己,而其他人也能表达自己吗?
314Because I think that's因为我认为
315what we really want is to feel known and to feel seen and not to feel like we are having to我们真正想要的,是感觉知道 和感觉被看见 而不是感觉我们不得不
316maintain a facade that hides who we are.保持一个隐藏我们身份的外表
317And so the best relationships are those所以最好的关系是
318where we feel we can be ourselves.在那里,我们觉得我们可以成为自己。
319And you talked about how really it's, it's romantic你谈到它是多么的浪漫
320relationships, friendships, acquaintances.关系,友谊,熟人。
321I mean, all of these relationships matter, but我的意思是,所有这些关系都很重要,但
322do you find that one of these is maybe more significant than the other?你是否觉得其中一个比另一个更重要?
323Or how do you你怎么样?
324look at them?看看他们?
325I look at it in terms of the secure attachment we think about it.我从我们所想的安全依恋的角度来看待它。
326That's这是
327attachment is a word for being warmly, securely connected.附加是一个词,表示被热情,安全连接。
328It's the who can you call in the是谁可以打电话来
329middle of the night if you're sick or scared.半夜,如果你生病或害怕的话。
330So I think of it in those terms, not necessarily所以我从这些角度来想,不一定
331the person's role, defined role in our life, like romantic partner or boss, but it's the,人的角色,我们生活中的定型角色, 像浪漫的伴侣或老板,
332does this person have my back?这个人背着我吗?
333And so that's, I think the defining element that we want to find因此,我认为我们想要找到的决定性要素
334somewhere in our world.在我们世界的某个地方
335So we have so many member questions coming in, Bob, and I'm going to所以,我们有这么多的成员问题 进来,鲍勃,我要去
336if you think it's possible for an endemically unhappy person at some point in life to如果你认为一个地方性不幸福的人 在生命的某个时刻有可能
337obtain happiness.获得幸福。
338Yes.对
339And thank you for asking that question.谢谢你问了这个问题
340So we have a couple of life stories所以,我们有一些生活故事
341in our book.在我们的书。
342The book contains real stories of real people.该书包含真实人物的真实故事.
343Every, the names are disguised to每个名字都被伪装成
344protect confidentiality, but some of those stories are of people who have big turnarounds late in保守秘密,但有些故事 是关于那些有大转折的人
345life.活着
346People who were isolated and less happy and in their sixties found a whole community.被孤立和不太快乐的人 在60多岁时 找到了一个完整的社区
347One man found a community at a gym that he never dreamed he would find.一个人在健身房里找到一个社区 他从未想过会找到
348And so the message that we因此,我们的信息
349get from studying these thousands of lives is it is never too late.从研究这几千条生命开始... ... ......
350And so don't assume that it's所以不要假设这是
351too late for you, even if you feel like you've had not had good luck with this in the past.对你来说太迟了,即使你觉得过去没有这个运气。
352Well, Bob, we're getting some questions about you and I want to turn to you for a second.好了,鲍勃,我们得到一些关于你的问题 我想转告你一秒钟。
353And I'mи琌
354curious how running this study has changed the way you approach life and your own pursuit of好奇的是,如何运行这个研究 改变了你对待生活的方式 和你自己追求
355happiness.快乐
356Oh, gosh.天呐
357Well, one of the things that's helped me with is the idea that everybody嗯,其中一个事情 帮助我的想法是,每个人都
358has struggles in their life.他们一生都在挣扎
359That has been so meaningful to me because I can also look at这对我来说是如此有意义 因为我也可以看看
360the world and say, gee, other people seem to have lives that have it all figured out and perfect这个世界,说,天啊, 其他人似乎有 生活,这一切已经想通和完美
361lives.活着
362It is so helpful to know that there isn't a person on the planet who doesn't have struggles.知道这个星球上没有一个没有挣扎的人是很有帮助的.
363And it makes me feel less alone when I can recognize that.当我意识到这一点时, 让我感到不那么孤独。
364And that's one of the reasons这也是原因之一
365why I want to keep getting these messages out after having studied thousands of lives.为什么我想在研究了数千条生命后 不断得到这些信息
366And I think the other thing that it's changed is my own priorities.我认为改变的另外一件事 是我自己的优先。
367So I realize, OK, I can sit here所以我意识到,好吧,我可以坐在这里
368this afternoon and edit another paper or do more work or I can see my friend who I haven't seen in今天下午再编辑另一篇论文 或做更多的工作 或者我能看到我的朋友
369a month.一个月
370And so I've become more active in taking care of my relationships and it makes a big所以我更加积极地处理我的关系 并且它使一个巨大的
371difference.差别。
372So I would say that those are the two big things for me that directing this study has所以我要说 指导这个研究的两件大事
373changed about my life.改变了我的生活。
374Well, we have a question from Ted member Nisa.我们有泰德成员Nisa的问题
375They ask, as a mother of two他们问,作为两个母亲
376very young children, what advice do you have for parents to build strong, healthy relationships年幼的孩子,你有什么建议 父母建立牢固,健康的关系
377now through adulthood?现在成年了?
378For parents.为父母.
379It's really helping your children to pay attention to这真的有助于你的孩子注意
380how they feel and to learn to use their feelings with more choice.他们的感受和学习如何用更多的选择来利用他们的感受。
381So learning to love what they所以学会爱他们
382love and hang on to what they love, even if it's not so popular.爱和坚持他们爱的东西, 即使它不是那么流行。
383You know, I had a mother talk to你知道,我有一个母亲说话
384me about how her child really loved doing improv comedy, and he's only 12 and his friends don't她的孩子非常喜欢做即兴喜剧 他只有12岁 他的朋友没有
385like that.像这样
386And so we talked about how you help your child feel supported in loving what he loves于是我们谈论了 你如何帮助你的孩子 感觉支持他爱的东西
387and taking an improv class, right?上即兴表演课,对吧?
388So helping your kids learn that it's okay to love something所以,帮助你的孩子 学会爱的东西是好的
389that's not the same as all the other kids in their group and keep loving what they love and helping这和组里其他孩子不一样 爱爱爱爱爱爱爱爱爱
390kids learn that it's okay to be unhappy and that that will pass, that feelings come and go,孩子们学会了不开心是正常的 那样会过去 感觉会来会去
391that it's okay to disagree.不同意没关系
392Families can model, parents can model for kids.家庭可以建模,父母可以为孩子建模.
393We can have disagreements,我们可以有分歧,
394we can work it out and and hold on to these good relationships, even through disagreements.我们可以解决和保持这些良好的关系,即使是通过分歧。
395Those are some of the biggest lessons we can help our children with about how to use their这些是一些最大的教训 我们可以帮助我们的孩子如何使用他们的
396feelings rather than kind of be buffeted by their feelings and ruled by their feelings.而不是被感情所冲击 被感情所支配
397I'm curious just where you see the study going from here.我很好奇你从哪里看到书房的走向
398We are collecting more data, even as我们正在收集更多的数据,即使
399we speak.我们说话。
400We are collecting more information from the children.我们正在从儿童那里收集更多信息。
401Almost all the original几乎所有的原始
402participants have passed away, but their children are all baby boomers on average.参与者已经逝世,但他们的孩子平均都是婴儿成长者。
403And so we're所以我们
404collecting information, including about what life was like during the pandemic, also collecting收集信息,包括流行病期间的生活状况,并收集
405information about how they use social media, which is something we've all been talking about a bit关于他们如何使用社交媒体的信息, 这是我们一直在谈论的
406here.在这里。
407And I think in terms of the future, we see ourselves as wanting to make our data available我认为从未来来看,我们想提供我们的数据
408to more and more researchers.给越来越多的研究人员。
409So we want to collaborate and we do collaborate with other所以,我们想合作,我们确实与其他
410research groups.研究小组。
411We say come in and use our data and ask new questions that we don't even think我们说进来用我们的数据 问我们不认为的新问题
412to ask, because we have this treasure trove of information about thousands of lives.因为我们有成千上万条生命的信息
413And then礛
414we're going to make it publicly available on public websites, because much of our work has我们将公开在公共网站上,因为我们的大部分工作
415been funded by the federal government, by NIH, with taxpayer money.由联邦政府,NIH出资,用纳税人的钱。
416And so we feel a responsibility所以我们觉得有责任
417to make this information available to other researchers who want to ask their own questions向想提出自己问题的其他研究人员提供这些信息;
418about our data.关于我们的数据。
419Well, Bob, you've shared so many great things with us.鲍勃,你和我们分享了很多伟大的东西
420I feel like if我觉得,如果
421people were listening and trying to absorb all of it, and at the very end of this conversation,人们在听 并试图吸收 所有这一切, 在谈话的结尾,
422want just one nugget of information that if you miss everything, what is the one thing只需要一点信息,如果你错过了一切, 什么是唯一的事情
423that you want everyone to walk away from at the end of this conversation?你想让大家在谈话结束时离开吗?
424That if you want to make one choice today that will make you healthier and happier, it is to如果你今天想做出一个选择 让你更健康更快乐
425pay attention to improving your connections with other people, that that is such a good注意改善你和别人的联系, 那太好了
426investment and it will pay off for years to come.投资和投资将在未来数年得到回报。
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