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为什么好人也会作恶

为什么好人也会作恶

为什么好人也会作恶

发布于 2026-08-02 · 时长 9:46

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0:00Question, why do people do horrible things?问,为什么人们做可怕的事情?
0:03Slave owners and Nazis, any of the perpetrators of histories, atrocities, how do they so successfully奴隶主和纳粹 任何历史和暴行的肇事者 他们是如何成功的
0:10dehumanize other people for so long?让别人失去人性这么久?
0:12At a smaller scale, how do bullies in the lunchroom manage to treat other kids with在较小的尺度上,午餐室的恶霸如何对待其他孩子
0:16such cruelty and then go home and pet their dog and call their grandma and say happy birthday?这么残忍 然后回家去宠养他们的狗 打电话给他们的奶奶说生日快乐?
0:20Most of what we've been studying so far has focused on the individual.目前为止我们所研究的大多集中在个人身上.
0:23We've covered some fields of psychology like cognitive, personality, and clinical psychology,我们研究了一些心理学领域 比如认知、人格和临床心理学
0:28which tend to address the phenomena contained within a single person's mind.它倾向于处理 包含在一个人的思想中的现象。
0:32But there's also social psychology, which focuses on the power of the situation.但也有社会心理学,注重形势的力量.
0:36It examines how we think about, influence, and relate to one another in certain conditions.它审视了我们在某些情况下如何思考、影响和相互联系。
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1Question, why do people do horrible things?问,为什么人们做可怕的事情?
2Slave owners and Nazis, any of the perpetrators of histories, atrocities, how do they so successfully奴隶主和纳粹 任何历史和暴行的肇事者 他们是如何成功的
3dehumanize other people for so long?让别人失去人性这么久?
4At a smaller scale, how do bullies in the lunchroom manage to treat other kids with在较小的尺度上,午餐室的恶霸如何对待其他孩子
5such cruelty and then go home and pet their dog and call their grandma and say happy birthday?这么残忍 然后回家去宠养他们的狗 打电话给他们的奶奶说生日快乐?
6Most of what we've been studying so far has focused on the individual.目前为止我们所研究的大多集中在个人身上.
7We've covered some fields of psychology like cognitive, personality, and clinical psychology,我们研究了一些心理学领域 比如认知、人格和临床心理学
8which tend to address the phenomena contained within a single person's mind.它倾向于处理 包含在一个人的思想中的现象。
9But there's also social psychology, which focuses on the power of the situation.但也有社会心理学,注重形势的力量.
10It examines how we think about, influence, and relate to one another in certain conditions.它审视了我们在某些情况下如何思考、影响和相互联系。
11And it's better equipped to answer this question about people doing horrible things.更能回答关于人们做可怕事情的问题。
12Social psychology can not only give us some of the tools we need to understand why people社会心理学不仅可以给我们一些工具 我们需要理解为什么人们
13behave brutally, it can also help us understand why we sometimes act heroically.这也能帮助我们理解 为什么我们有时会英勇行动
14Like why did Jean Valjean reveal his true identity to save some stranger from being像为什么让·阿让 透露他的真实身份来拯救陌生人
15tried in his place?代替他受审?
16Why did Nazi Oskar Schindler risk his own hide to save over a thousand Jewish people?为什么纳粹奥斯卡尔·辛德勒冒着自己的险去拯救一千多名犹太人?
17What made Darth Vader throw the Emperor down that hole, even as he was being electrocuted?是什么让达斯·维德把皇帝扔下那个洞,即使他被电死?
18I can't say there are any easy answers about either humanity's greatness or its horribleness.我不能说,对于人类的伟大或恐怖,有什么简单的答案。
19Certainly, there aren't any that we can find in the next ten minutes.当然了 接下来的10分钟里我们找不到任何东西
20But we can point ourselves in the right direction, and it starts with social thinking.但我们可以指向正确的方向,它从社会思维开始.
21When we're trying to understand why people act like villains or heroes, one of the things当我们试图理解 为什么人们的行为 像坏人或英雄, 其中一件事
22we're really asking is, did they do what they did because of their personality or their situation?我们真的要问的是,他们是否因为个性或处境而这样做?
23Austrian psychologist Fritz Heider began plumbing the depths of this question in the 1920s,奥地利心理学家弗里茨·海德(英语:Fritz Heider)在1920年代开始为这个问题的深度铺设管道,
24when he was developing what's now known as the attribution theory.当他正在开发 所谓的归属论。
25This theory simply suggests that we can explain someone's behavior by crediting either their这个理论只是暗示 我们可以解释某人的行为 通过功劳或他们的
26stable, enduring traits, also known as their disposition, or the situation at hand.稳定、持久的特点,又称其处置,或手头的情况。
27And we tend to attribute people's behavior to either one or the other.而我们往往把人们的行为归结为一种或另一种。
28Sounds pretty simple, but it can be surprisingly hard to tell whether someone's behavior is听起来很简单 但很难分辨别人的行为
29dispositional or situational.处置或情况。
30Say you see Bruno at a party, and he's acting like a wallflower all night.说你看见布鲁诺在派对上 他整晚都像个壁花
31You might assume that he just has a shy personality, but maybe he doesn't.你可能认为他只是有害羞的个性 但也许他没有
32Maybe he'd ordinarily be reenacting all of the moves from Footloose at this party.也许他通常会在这个派对上 重现Footloose的所有动作
33But on this night, he had a twisted ankle, or a headache, or he'd just seen his ex with但是在今晚 他的脚踝扭曲 或头痛 或者他刚刚看到他的前夫
34somebody new.一个新的人。
35Those are all situational explanations.这些都是情况解释。
36Overestimating the forces of personality, while underestimating the power of the situation,高估了人格的力量,同时低估了形势的力量,
37is called the fundamental attribution error.称为基本归属错误。
38And as you can imagine, making this kind of error can really end up warping your opinion正如你能想象的, 制造这种错误 最终真的会扭曲你的意见
39of another person, and lead to false snap judgments.并导致错误的判决。
40This might not be such a big deal when it comes to Bruno and his awesome dance moves,这也许没什么大不了的 当布鲁诺和他的出色舞蹈动作,
41but according to one study of college students, 7 in 10 women report that men have misread但根据对大学生的一项研究,每10名妇女中有7人报告说,男子读错
42their polite friendliness, which would be appropriate for the situation, as a sexual他们的礼貌的友好, 适合情况,作为性
43come-on.来吧。
44We choose how we explain other people's behavior every day, and what we choose to believe can我们每天选择如何解释别人的行为 我们选择相信什么
45have big consequences.后果很严重
46For example, our political views will likely be strongly influenced by whether we decide例如,我们的政治观点可能会受到我们是否决定
47to attribute poverty or homelessness to personal dispositions, like being lazy and looking将贫穷或无家可归归咎于个人的倾向,如懒惰和寻找
48for a handout, or social circumstances, like lack of education and opportunity.施舍,或社会环境,如缺乏教育和机会。
49And these attitudes can in turn affect our actions.这些态度反过来会影响我们的行动。
50Activists and politicians know this well, and they can use it to their advantage to积极分子和政治家都清楚这一点,他们可以利用这一点来达到他们的目的。
51persuade people in different ways.以不同的方式说服人们。
52In the late 1970s and 80s, psychologists Richard Petty and John Cacioppo developed a dual process在20世纪70年代末和80年代,心理学家理查德·佩蒂和约翰·卡西奥波(John Cacioppo)发展了一个双重过程.
53theory of understanding how persuasion works.理解的理论如何说服。
54The first part of their model is known as the central route persuasion, and it involves他们的模型的第一部分被称为中央路线说服,它涉及
55calling on basic thinking and reasoning to convince people.依靠基本的思想和推理来说服人们。
56This is what's at work when interested people focus on the evidence and arguments at hand当感兴趣的人把注意力放在 手头的证据和争论上时,这就是工作
57and are persuaded by the actual content of the message.并被信息的实际内容说服.
58So when you're watching a political debate, you might be persuaded by a candidate's particular所以,当你在看政治辩论时, 你可能会被一个候选人的特异性说服
59policies, positions, or voting history.政策、立场或投票历史。
60That is, the stuff they're actually saying.这就是他们真正在说的那些话
61But we all know that persuasion involves more than that.但我们都知道,说服不仅涉及这一点。
62There's also peripheral route persuasion at work.工作中也有外围路线劝导.
63This influences people by way of incidental cues, like a speaker's physical attractiveness这通过附带提示来影响人们, 就像演讲者的身体吸引力
64or personal relatability.或个人相对性。
65There's not a lot of hard thinking going on here.此中无多难思.
66It's more of a gut reaction.它更是一个肠道反应。
67So you might decide to vote for a particular candidate because you think they're cute,所以你可能决定投票给某个候选人 因为你觉得他们很可爱
68or because they're from your hometown.或者因为他们来自你的家乡。
69Peripheral route persuasion happens more readily when you're not paying a ton of attention,周边路线的说服比较容易发生 当你不注意,
70which is why billboards and television ads can be scarily effective.所以广告牌和电视广告 才会非常有效
71So that's how politicians and advertisers, and maybe bosses and teachers and pushy friends,这就是政客和广告商 以及老板和老师 和有冲动的朋友
72try to change our behavior by changing our attitudes.尝试改变我们的行为 通过改变我们的态度。
73But it turns out that the reverse is true, too.但事实证明,反之亦然。
74Our attitudes can be affected by our behaviors.我们的态度可能会受到我们行为的影响.
75You might have heard of the phrase, fake it till you make it, meaning if you smile when你可能听说过这句话, 假装它直到你做出它, 这意味着如果你微笑,当
76you're actually sad, the act of smiling may carry you through an attitude change until你其实很伤心,微笑的行为 可能让你通过态度改变,直到
77you actually feel better.你真的感觉好多了。
78Sometimes we can manipulate ourselves this way, but it's also an incredibly effective有时候我们可以这样操控自己 但也是非常有效的
79method that people use to persuade each other.人们用来说服对方的方法。
80It generally works best in increments through what psychologists call the foot in the door一般来说,通过心理学家所说的门脚,在递增方面最有效
81phenomenon.现象。
82People tend to more readily comply with a big request after they've first agreed to人们在第一次同意后 往往更愿意满足一个大的要求
83smaller, more innocuous requests.更小,更无害的请求。
84Like Darth Vader didn't just go from go get a mannequin to dark lord overnight.就像达斯・维德不是一夜之间 得到一个模特儿到黑暗的领主
85He was slowly enticed to the dark side by a series of escalating actions and attitude他被一系列不断升级的行动和态度 慢慢地诱惑到黑暗的一面
86changes.变化。
87Do this favor for me, now run this errand, now heal these padawans, now blow up a planet.帮我做这个忙,现在跑这个任务, 现在治愈这些巴达人, 现在炸毁一个星球。
88What started as small actions went on to become big ones, subtly transforming Vader's beliefs开始于小动作 变成大动作 潜移改变维德的信仰
89about himself and others.关于他自己和其他人。
90There's plenty of experimental evidence that moral action really does strengthen moral有很多实验证据证明 道德行动确实能加强道德
91convictions, just as amoral action strengthens amoral attitudes.正如不道德的行为会加强不道德的态度一样。
92And there is perhaps no better example of this than the Stanford prison experiment.也许没有比斯坦福监狱实验更好的例子了。
93Back in 1971, Stanford psych professor Philip Zimbardo and his team put an ad in the local1971年,斯坦福心理学教授菲利普·津巴多和他的团队在当地登广告
94paper looking for volunteers to participate in a 14-day experiment.找志愿者参加14天的实验
95After screening around 70 applicants, 24 male college students were deemed physically and在对大约70名申请人进行筛选后,有24名男性大学生被视为身体残疾,
96mentally fit enough to participate in the study.精神上足以参与研究.
97For their troubles, they'd each be given 15 bucks a day.由于他们的麻烦,他们每人每天得到15美元.
98The participants didn't know the exact nature of the experiment, just that it involved a参与者不知道实验的确切性质,只是涉及到一个
99fake prison situation, and with a coin flip, half were randomly deemed prisoners and the假监狱的情况, 和硬币翻转, 一半被随机 认为囚犯和
100other half guards.其他一半的警卫。
101The guards were told that it was the prisoner's behavior that was being studied.看守被告知正在研究的是犯人的行为.
102The prisoners weren't told much of anything, aside from that they'd been arrested and囚犯们没有被告知什么 除了他们被捕了之外
103taken to prison.被关进监狱
104Other than that, neither group had many specific instructions.除此之外,两个团体都没有许多具体的指示。
105Zimbardo wanted to observe how each party adapted to their roles.津巴多希望观察每个政党如何适应各自的角色.
106And so, on a quiet Sunday summer morning in Palo Alto, real cops swooped in and arrested所以,在星期天夏天在帕洛阿尔托的一个安静的早晨, 真正的警察冲进来并逮捕了
107the prisoners in their homes under charges of robbery.犯人在家中 被控抢劫
108They were frisked, handcuffed, and read their rights.他们被搜身,戴上手铐,阅读他们的权利。
109Back at the station, they were formally booked and then blindfolded in a holding cell wearing回到车站,他们被正式预订,然后被蒙上双眼,关在一间看守所里
110only hospital gowns.只有医院的礼服。
111The researchers had taken great care to make sure that the setting was extremely realistic,研究者们非常小心地确保 环境非常现实
112which is one reason why they used real cops in the arrest before handing the prisoners这是他们逮捕犯人之前 使用真正的警察的原因之一
113over to the fake guards.到假警卫那里去
114And it took no time at all for this role-playing to become really, really real.而这个角色扮演完全没有时间 变得真正,真正真实。
115The initial trauma of the humiliation of the arrest, the booking, strip searching, and逮捕的羞辱、预订、脱衣搜查和
116waiting immediately kicked off a loss of identity in the prisoners.立即驱赶囚犯失去身份。
117A few prisoners only made it through the first night before they became too emotionally distressed有几个犯人在情绪太紧张前 才熬过第一晚上
118and had to be released.并不得不被释放。
119Things only went downhill from there.事情只从那里下坡。
120Though the guards could act any way they wanted, as long as they didn't physically hurt anyone,虽然警卫可以随意行事 只要他们不伤害任何人
121encounters quickly became cruel, hostile, and dehumanizing.遭遇迅速变得残忍、敌对和不人道。
122Guards hurled insults and commands, referred to the prisoners only by number, and put some警卫们发出侮辱和命令,只按人数向囚犯提及,并放一些
123of them in solitary confinement.他们被单独监禁。
124Prisoners started breaking down, others rebelled, and still others became passively resigned,囚犯们开始瓦解 其他人反叛 还有一些则被动地辞职
125as if they deserved to be treated so badly.好像他们应该受到如此恶劣的待遇一样。
126Things got bad enough that the experiment ended after only six days, causing relief事情变得很糟 实验只过了六天就结束了 造成了缓解
127in the fake prisoners, while interestingly leaving some fake guards feeling angry.在假囚犯中, 有趣的是留下一些假警卫感到愤怒。
128Luckily, everyone involved bounced back to normal once out of the prison setting.幸运的是,每个人都回到了正常的 一次出狱。
129All of those negative moods and abusive behaviors were situational.所有这些负面情绪和虐待行为都是情势性的。
130And that fact reinforced the important concept that the power of a given situation can easily这一事实强化了一个重要的概念,即特定情况的力量可以很容易地
131override individual differences in personality.超越个人的个性差异。
132Although it would never fly by today's ethical standards, Zimbardo's famous study remains虽然它永远不会飞过今天的道德标准, 津巴多的著名研究仍然
133influential today because it sheds such a harsh light on the nature of power and corruption.因为它如此严酷地揭示了权力和腐败的性质。
134And yet, people differ.然而,人们却不同。
135Many people succumb and become compliant in terrible situations, but not everyone does.许多人在可怕的局势中屈服并服从命令,但并不是每个人都这样做。
136Lots of people risk their lives to hide Jewish people in World War II, help run away slaves很多人冒着生命危险 在二战中隐藏犹太人 帮助逃离奴隶
137along the Underground Railroad, keep Tutsi refugees safe during the Rwandan Genocide,在卢旺达大屠杀期间保护图西族难民的安全
138or generally refuse to comply or participate in actions they didn't believe in.或一般拒绝服从或参与他们不相信的行动.
139Some people can and do resist turning to the dark side, even when it seems like everyone有些人可以也确实抵制 转向黑暗的一面, 即使似乎每个人都
140around them is going mad.周围的人会发疯的
141And yet, the fact is, these people tend to be in the minority.然而,事实是,这些人往往属于少数。
142So why?为什么?
143Why does it seem so easy to rationalize a negative action or attitude, and so hard to为什么似乎很容易使消极行动或态度合理化,而且很难
144muster the positive ones?召集积极者?
145One partial explanation comes from American social psychologist Leon Festinger's theory一个部分解释来自美国社会心理学家Leon Festinger的理论
146of cognitive dissonance.认知不和谐
147It's one of the most important concepts in psychology.这是心理学中最重要的概念之一.
148Festinger's theory begins with the notion that we experience discomfort, or dissonance,费斯廷格的理论开始于 我们经历不适或不和的概念,
149when our thoughts, beliefs, or behaviors are inconsistent with each other.当我们的思想、信仰或行为 彼此不一致时
150Basically, we don't like to confuse ourselves.基本上,我们不喜欢混淆自己。
151For example, if Bruno is generally considered a peaceful person, but finds himself suddenly例如,如果布鲁诺一般被认为是和平的人,但突然发现自己
152punching at his friend over a vendor bender, he's likely experiencing some level of cognitive他可能会经历某种程度的认知
153dissonance.让人不快
154So by Festinger's thinking, Bruno might relieve this tension by actually modifying his beliefs所以通过Festinger的想法,布鲁诺可能通过改变他的信仰来缓解这种紧张.
155in order to match the actions he's already committed.为了配合他已经做出的行为
156Like telling himself, turns out I'm not such a nice guy after all.就像告诉自己 我毕竟不是一个好人
157Maybe I'm actually a bully.也许我是个恶霸
158On the other hand, he might resolve his internal tension by changing how he thinks about the另一方面,他可能通过改变自己对内部紧张的看法来解决内部紧张。
159situation.情况
160He might still think of himself as a peaceful person, but realize that an unusual situation他可能仍然认为自己是一个和平的人, 但意识到一个不寻常的情况
161led to an unusual action.导致一个不寻常的行动。
162Like he'd had a bad day, and it was his mom's new car, or his friend was just really asking好像他今天过得很糟 是他妈妈的新车 或者他朋友只是问
163for it.对于它。
164So he can keep being the ordinarily peaceful guy he was before.所以他可以继续做他以前平和的人
165It's kind of an inverted fundamental attribution error if you think about it, attributing a这是一种倒置 基本归属错误 如果你考虑它, 将一个
166person's actions mainly to the situation instead of his personality.人的行为主要针对情况而不是他的个性.
167The point is that this mismatch between what we do and who we think we are induces tension,关键是,我们的行为和我们所认为的人之间的这种不匹配 导致了紧张,
168cognitive dissonance, and that we tend to want to resolve that tension.认知上的不和谐,我们倾向于解决这种紧张。
169That's part of what turns an Anakin into a Darth Vader, and then if we're lucky, back这就是把安纳金变成达斯维德的一部分 如果我们走运了 就回来
170into an Anakin.变成安纳金人
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