【双语音+文稿】英伟达黄仁勋与德国总理墨茨访谈：在投资德国峰
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P1 · 【双语音+文稿】英伟达黄仁勋与德国总理墨茨访谈：在投资德国峰会上，深入探讨人工智能、产业转型、投资、制造业以及德国在全球技术竞赛中的地位。 p01 英文版 (P1)
【双语音+文稿】英伟达黄仁勋与德国总理墨茨访谈：在投资德国峰会上，深入探讨人工智能、产业转型、投资、制造业以及德国在全球技术竞赛中的地位。 p01 英文版 (P1)
发布于 2026-10-20 · 时长 25:41字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | financial figures in tech. | 技术方面的财务数字。 |
| 0:03 | He has co-founded Nvidia in 1993, | 他于1993年共同创立了恩维迪亚. |
| 0:06 | led it ever since, built it into the most valuable company | 从那时起,领导它,把它建成最有价值的公司 |
| 0:09 | in the world. | 在这个世界。 |
| 0:10 | Last time I checked, right? | 上次我检查,对不对? |
| 0:12 | More than five trillion, not billion, trillion US dollars. | 五万亿以上,不计十亿,万亿元. |
| 0:16 | And along the way, he has earned a reputation | 一路走来,他赢得了名声 |
| 0:18 | as a kind of rock star of tech, | 作为科技的摇滚明星 |
| 0:21 | not only because of his trademark leather jacket, | 不仅因为他的商标皮夹克, |
| 0:24 | but because wherever he goes, | 但因为不管他去哪 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | financial figures in tech. | 技术方面的财务数字。 |
| 2 | He has co-founded Nvidia in 1993, | 他于1993年共同创立了恩维迪亚. |
| 3 | led it ever since, built it into the most valuable company | 从那时起,领导它,把它建成最有价值的公司 |
| 4 | in the world. | 在这个世界。 |
| 5 | Last time I checked, right? | 上次我检查,对不对? |
| 6 | More than five trillion, not billion, trillion US dollars. | 五万亿以上,不计十亿,万亿元. |
| 7 | And along the way, he has earned a reputation | 一路走来,他赢得了名声 |
| 8 | as a kind of rock star of tech, | 作为科技的摇滚明星 |
| 9 | not only because of his trademark leather jacket, | 不仅因为他的商标皮夹克, |
| 10 | but because wherever he goes, | 但因为不管他去哪 |
| 11 | crowds gather and are waiting for an autograph or a selfie. | 人群聚集 等待签名或自拍。 |
| 12 | We might just be so lucky tonight, Mr. Chancellor. | 我们今晚可能很幸运 首相先生 |
| 13 | And I do hope you don't take this as a prompt. | 我希望你别把这当做是急事 |
| 14 | Don't rush the stage, | 别急着上台 |
| 15 | but please give a very warm welcome to Jensen Huang. | 但请热烈欢迎黄詹森 |
| 16 | Welcome to Germany. | 欢迎来到德国。 |
| 17 | I can see you're already getting comfortable | 我看得出来你已经很舒服了 |
| 18 | for our fireside set. | 我们的火场。 |
| 19 | Also a bartender. | 还有酒保 |
| 20 | Well, Chancellor, if you could swap jobs | 首相,如果你能换工作的话 |
| 21 | 和Jensen在一起一天, | |
| 22 | what would you do first, do you think? | 你觉得你首先会怎么做? |
| 23 | Oh, that's a great idea, to swap the jobs. | 哦,这是一个好主意,换工作。 |
| 24 | Would you like to go there? | 你想去那里吗? |
| 25 | No. | 没有 |
| 26 | Well. | 这个嘛 |
| 27 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 28 | I give you my answer. | 我给你我的答案。 |
| 29 | I rather would put my leather jacket on. | 我宁愿穿上皮夹克 |
| 30 | I would take a flight to Berlin. | 我会搭飞机去柏林 |
| 31 | I would like to see the German Chancellor | 我想见德国总理 |
| 32 | and I will tell him I'm ready to invest. | 我会告诉他我已经准备好投资了 |
| 33 | Well, that's exactly what I'm doing. | 嗯,这正是我在做什么。 |
| 34 | I think we could arrange a meeting. | 我想我们可以安排个会议 |
| 35 | No, nobody has invested more in Germany. | 不,没有人在德国投资更多。 |
| 36 | Thank you for that. | 谢谢你 |
| 37 | We are really grateful. | 我们真的很感激。 |
| 38 | Thank you for doing this. | 谢谢你 |
| 39 | And this is a great signal for our country. | 这对我国来说是一个伟大的信号。 |
| 40 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 41 | You know, NVIDIA story and Germany story | 你知道,NVIDIA的故事和德国的故事 |
| 42 | played a very large role. | 发挥很大的作用。 |
| 43 | In fact, in the year 2000, | 事实上,在2000年, |
| 44 | NVIDIA was a consumer oriented technology. | NVIDIA是一个面向消费者的技术。 |
| 45 | We were only building for PC gaming. | 我们只是做个人电脑游戏 |
| 46 | And it was a company in Germany, Elsa, | 那是德国的一家公司 Elsa |
| 47 | that partnership led us into workstations, | 那伙伴关系让我们进入工作站, |
| 48 | what led us into all of the card companies. | 是什么让我们进入了所有的卡公司。 |
| 49 | And today we work with the card companies | 今天我们跟卡公司合作 |
| 50 | from styling, design, engineering, simulation, | 从造型,设计,工程,模拟, |
| 51 | manufacturing, all the way out to the cars. | 制造,一直到汽车。 |
| 52 | It was in 2005 that Audi brought us into the car industry | 是2005年奥迪带我们进入汽车工业 |
| 53 | inside the car. | 在车里。 |
| 54 | And it was a 2023, was it 2023, 2020? | 并且是2023年,是2023年,2020年吗? |
| 55 | Yeah, 2020, that Ola and I established a partnership | 是啊,2020年,奥拉和我建立了伙伴关系 |
| 56 | to build autonomous vehicles. | 建造自动车辆。 |
| 57 | And so Germany and NVIDIA has been very close | 因此,德国和NVIDIA一直非常接近 |
| 58 | for a long time. | 长久以来 |
| 59 | Jens, I think I already heard | 珍斯,我想我已经听说了 |
| 60 | that you wouldn't like to swap jobs. | 你不想换工作 |
| 61 | So I won't even get there asking you | 所以我甚至不会去问你 |
| 62 | what you would do as a chancellor. | 你会做一个总统。 |
| 63 | We let you be you for now. | 我们让你成为你现在。 |
| 64 | And I suspect you can already picture things | 我怀疑你已经可以想象了 |
| 65 | that we might not even imagine yet. | 我们甚至无法想象 |
| 66 | So take us into an engineering office | 所以带我们去工程办公室 |
| 67 | or a factory of the future. | 或未来工厂。 |
| 68 | What do you see? | 你看见什么了? |
| 69 | What are this gonna look like? | 这看起来像什么? |
| 70 | Oh, that's interesting. | 哦,这很有趣。 |
| 71 | In fact, the factory, every single company in the future | 事实上,工厂,未来每个公司 |
| 72 | will have two factories, | 将有两个工厂, |
| 73 | the factory that is real and the factory that is digital. | 真实的工厂 数字化的工厂 |
| 74 | And the factory that is digital will be so real, | 而数字化的工厂 将是如此真实, |
| 75 | it might as be real. | 这可能是真实的。 |
| 76 | If it manifests itself, | 如果它表现出来 |
| 77 | when you create the digital twin of your company, | 当你创建你公司的数字双胞胎, |
| 78 | of your car company, | 你的汽车公司, |
| 79 | that digital twin might as well be real. | 那个数字双胞胎可能也是真实的 |
| 80 | And so in the future, | 所以将来 |
| 81 | I believe that most people here in Germany | 我相信德国的大多数人 |
| 82 | will mostly work inside a digital twin of their company. | 大部分工作 在他们公司的数字双胞胎。 |
| 83 | They will build digital cars. | 他们将建造数码汽车。 |
| 84 | Those cars will have digital brains. | 这些车会有数码脑。 |
| 85 | The manufacturing, the factories will have digital, | 制造,工厂将拥有数字化, |
| 86 | of course, artificial intelligence robots, | 当然,人工智能机器人, |
| 87 | building inside a robotic factory, | 在机器人工厂内建造, |
| 88 | building cars that will be robotic. | 制造机器人汽车 |
| 89 | And everything will be completely software driven. | 一切都会完全由软件驱动。 |
| 90 | Everything will be completely AI driven. | 一切将完全由AI驱动。 |
| 91 | So every company will build two things. | 所以每个公司都会建造两样东西。 |
| 92 | They will build brains | 他们将建立大脑 |
| 93 | and the brains that go into the products that they ship. | 和进入他们运输的产品中的大脑。 |
| 94 | And so- | 这样... |
| 95 | Fascinating. | 异闻. |
| 96 | Yeah, it's gonna be cool. | 是的,这将是很酷的。 |
| 97 | Chancellor, of course the ambition is to bring AI | 总理,当然,目标就是把AI带来 |
| 98 | into everyday use across German industry, | 进入整个德国工业的日常使用, |
| 99 | from large manufacturers, | 从大制造商, |
| 100 | Mittelstand for also small companys. 米特尔站给小公司。 | |
| 101 | Could you perhaps share a few concrete examples | 请大家分享几个具体的例子 |
| 102 | of how you and the German government are ensuring | 你和德国政府如何确保 |
| 103 | that this widespread deployment is actually taking place? | 这种广泛的部署实际上是在进行? |
| 104 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 105 | First of all, | 首先,我们... |
| 106 | I would like to say that I'm really impressed | 我想说,我真的印象深刻 |
| 107 | what Nvidia and German companies | 恩维迪亚公司和德国公司 |
| 108 | are already doing in this country. | 这个国家已经在做。 |
| 109 | Ola Kellenius just handed out a model | 奥拉・凯勒尼乌斯刚刚送了一个模型 |
| 110 | from the new S-Class of Mercedes to me, | 从奔驰的新S级给我, |
| 111 | promising that this car will be autonomous driving | 保证这辆车能自主驾驶 |
| 112 | in Germany by the end of this year. | 到今年年底在德国 |
| 113 | Safest and the most autonomous. | 最安全和最自主的。 |
| 114 | So this is happening in Germany. | 所以这发生在德国。 |
| 115 | So we are, in the government, | 所以我们在政府里 |
| 116 | we are fully committed to be one | 我们完全致力于成为一个 |
| 117 | of the most advanced places in the world, | 世界上最先进的地方, |
| 118 | not just in the European Union, | 不仅仅是在欧洲联盟, |
| 119 | but in the world to work with AI, | 但是在与AI合作的世界里 |
| 120 | to integrate AI into our industry. | 将AI融入我们的产业。 |
| 121 | And one of the biggest, if not the biggest advantage | 如果不是最大的优势之一 |
| 122 | 我们在德国就是所谓的Mittelstand | |
| 123 | And I'm very happy to see | 我很高兴看到 |
| 124 | that we are having here tonight, | 我们今晚在这里, |
| 125 | many small and medium sized companies from Germany. | 许多来自德国的中小型公司。 |
| 126 | Please open your doors for AI to make use of your data. | 请打开门让AI使用你的数据. |
| 127 | This is so decisive for the German future. | 这对德国的未来是如此决定性. |
| 128 | This is a real secret and a real advantage for Germany | 这对德国来说是一个真正的秘密和优势 |
| 129 | to use, to make use of all the data | 使用,使用所有数据 |
| 130 | which are already available in our companies. | 我们的公司已经可以买到 |
| 131 | And if we could combine this AI with companies like yours, | 如果我们能把人工智能和你的公司结合起来 |
| 132 | and our companies in Germany, the big ones, | 和我们在德国的公司,大公司, |
| 133 | but also the so-called Mittelstand, | 和所谓的米特尔斯台, |
| 134 | I'm really optimistic that we will be one of the leading, | 我非常乐观,我们将会是领先者之一, |
| 135 | if not the leading country in the world | 如果不是世界领先国家 |
| 136 | in terms of spread AI for all the companies | 在所有公司推广AI |
| 137 | of our manufacturers, machinery, automotive industry, | 我们的制造商,机械,汽车工业, |
| 138 | supplies of automotive industry. | 汽车工业用品。 |
| 139 | I think this is a great opportunity | 我觉得这是个好机会 |
| 140 | and I'm decided to meet that. | 我决定满足这个。 |
| 141 | Yeah, you're absolutely right. | 是啊,你绝对是对的。 |
| 142 | So first of all, the data of Germany | 所以首先 德国的数据 |
| 143 | is part of your natural resources. | 是你们自然资源的一部分。 |
| 144 | It belongs to the nation. | 属于国家. |
| 145 | The data of your, the digital experience | 你的数据,数字经验 |
| 146 | or otherwise known as data, | 或称为数据, |
| 147 | the data of your country is your culture, | 贵国的数据是你的文化, |
| 148 | your values, your knowledge, your experience. | 你的价值观、知识、经验 |
| 149 | It's your natural resource. | 这是你的自然资源。 |
| 150 | It belongs to the nation. | 属于国家. |
| 151 | And you're absolutely right | 你说得对 |
| 152 | that you should import the technology | 您应该导入该技术 |
| 153 | to harvest that data | 获取数据 |
| 154 | and turn it into your national intelligence, | 把它变成你的国家情报 |
| 155 | but you should not export your culture, | 但你不应该输出你的文化, |
| 156 | export your values, export your knowledge, | 导出您的值,导出您的知识, |
| 157 | export your history, | 导出历史 |
| 158 | and then import German intelligence back. | 然后再输入德国情报 |
| 159 | Makes no sense. | 没道理 |
| 160 | So that's number one. | 所以这是第一。 |
| 161 | And so you have every, you're gonna, of course, | 所以,你拥有所有,你当然会, |
| 162 | use the best AI technology available in the world | 使用世界上最好的人工智能技术 |
| 163 | and AI services in the world, | 和大赦国际在世界范围内的服务, |
| 164 | but you have every capability to build your own AI. | 但你有能力建立自己的人工智能 |
| 165 | So that's number one. | 所以这是第一。 |
| 166 | The second is the next wave of AI is physical AI. | 第二个是下一波AI是物理AI. |
| 167 | This is where AI interacts with the physical world, | 这是AI与物理世界互动的地方, |
| 168 | robotics, manufacturing, cars, heavy industry. | 机器人,制造,汽车,重工业. |
| 169 | That will never be replaced by digital technology. | 这永远不会被数字技术所取代。 |
| 170 | The work that you know belongs, | 你知道的工作属于, |
| 171 | that knowledge belongs to you. | 知识属于你 |
| 172 | The expertise of your domain, that belongs to you. | 属于你的专长 |
| 173 | Artificial general intelligence | 人工一般情报 |
| 174 | will never replace domain expertise. | 永远不会取代域专长。 |
| 175 | You could be as smart of a general intelligence as you want. | 你可以像你想的那样聪明 |
| 176 | You will never be as smart as somebody | 你永远不会像别人那么聪明 |
| 177 | who is very, very specialized | 他们非常,非常专业 |
| 178 | in a particular field of electromechanical technology. | 在特定的机电技术领域。 |
| 179 | It cannot be replaced. | 它不能被替换。 |
| 180 | And so AI can only augment your capability. | 所以人工智能只能增强你的能力 |
| 181 | It will not replace your capability. | 它不会取代你的能力。 |
| 182 | So take advantage of the technology. | 因此利用技术。 |
| 183 | It's a new instrument. | 新乐器. |
| 184 | As for some of these advantages, Janssen, | 至于这些优势,詹森 |
| 185 | we have on the one hand, decades of industrial data. | 一方面 我们有几十年的工业数据 |
| 186 | We have very skilled labor, if you like. | 如果你愿意,我们有非常熟练的劳动力。 |
| 187 | We have the engineering expertise. | 我们有工程专家 |
| 188 | So that's certainly, as you seem to point out, | 所以,当然,你似乎指出, |
| 189 | speaks for a lot of advantages for Germany. | 代表了德国的许多优势. |
| 190 | You have a global perspective, however. | 但是,你有一个全球视角。 |
| 191 | There are other countries that also have strengths, | 还有其他国家也有优势, |
| 192 | that also like to take advantage of their strengths. | 也喜欢利用他们的优势。 |
| 193 | You talk to so many governments across the globe, | 你和全世界很多政府交谈 |
| 194 | to so many companies across the world. | 给全世界很多公司 |
| 195 | If you take this global perspective, | 如果你从全球角度出发 |
| 196 | how is Germany braced for this sort of next race in AI? | 德国在AI的下一场比赛是怎样准备的? |
| 197 | As you know, the last major industrial revolution | 如你所知,最后一场工业大革命 |
| 198 | was electrification before the one I'll describe. | 在我描述之前是电气化的 |
| 199 | Electrification resulted in really three | 电气化导致三个 |
| 200 | geographical leaders, Germany, United States, Japan. | 德国、美国、日本地理领导人。 |
| 201 | For the last 50 years, | 在过去50年里, |
| 202 | because of the current industrial revolution, | 由于目前的工业革命, |
| 203 | which is computing and digital technology, | 是计算和数字技术, |
| 204 | United States has largely exported | 美国主要出口 |
| 205 | its heavy manufacturing, its building, its craft, | 它的重型制造,它的建筑,它的工艺, |
| 206 | really to China. | 真正的中国。 |
| 207 | So now the world has three again, | 所以现在世界又有三个了 |
| 208 | but it's Germany, Japan, and China. | 但这是德国、日本和中国。 |
| 209 | The advantage that China has is that they came into, | 中国的优势是他们进入了 |
| 210 | their industrial revolution, if you will, | 他们的工业革命,如果你愿意, |
| 211 | their economic transformation happened | 经济转型的发生 |
| 212 | during precisely the time of the computer industry. | 在电脑工业时期 |
| 213 | They are quite computerized. | 它们相当电脑化。 |
| 214 | China is probably the only nation today | 中国可能是今天唯一的国家 |
| 215 | that is deep in manufacturing | 深处是制造业 |
| 216 | and deep in computer science, | 并深入计算机科学, |
| 217 | and very comfortable in both. | 和非常舒适的两个。 |
| 218 | Well, the good news is there's a complete reset. | 嗯,好消息是有一个完整的重置。 |
| 219 | The last 50 years was about software programming. | 过去50年是关于软件编程的. |
| 220 | United States is obviously world-class, | 美国显然是世界级的, |
| 221 | but there's a new era now. | 但是现在有一个新的时代了 |
| 222 | The computer programs itself. | 电脑程序本身。 |
| 223 | You just have to show the computer what you want. | 你只需要向电脑展示你想要的 |
| 224 | Computer programming, all of the advantages | 电脑编程,所有的优点 |
| 225 | of the last generation has now been accrued | 上一代已经累积 |
| 226 | into artificial intelligence. | 进入人工智能。 |
| 227 | There's a complete reset. | 有完整的重置. |
| 228 | All the digital technology in the world | 世界所有的数字技术 |
| 229 | will not replace electro-mechanical physical technology. | 不会取代电子机械物理技术。 |
| 230 | Electrons will never replace atoms. | 电压永远不会取代原子. |
| 231 | And that's an advantage that you have. | 这就是你的优势 |
| 232 | The work you know, the domain expertise you have, | 你知道的工作, 你有的领域专长, |
| 233 | the craft that is here, it will remain here. | 在这里的飞船, 它会留在这里。 |
| 234 | But you have to take advantage of this new technology. | 但你必须利用这种新技术。 |
| 235 | This industrial revolution is so mighty, is so powerful, | 这次工业革命是如此强大,如此强大, |
| 236 | you don't have another chance. | 你没有其他机会了 |
| 237 | Because you always, yeah. | 因为你总是,是的。 |
| 238 | Whether we have another chance or not, | 不管我们是否有其他机会, |
| 239 | we should always assume we don't. | 我们应该一直假设我们没有 |
| 240 | This transition is so important. | 这一过渡非常重要。 |
| 241 | You should combine your deep skills, | 你应该结合你深厚的技能 |
| 242 | your deep expertise in the physical products, | 你精通物理产品 |
| 243 | in the electro-mechanical products, | 在机电产品中, |
| 244 | and combine it with artificial intelligence. | 并将其与人工智能结合. |
| 245 | I would not be surprised if currently, | 如果现在... |
| 246 | most of the middlestads, their challenges | 大部分的中间施塔德人, 他们的挑战 |
| 247 | are reduction in labor because people are getting old. | 减少劳动力,因为人们老了。 |
| 248 | The craft of that is captured in the knowledge, | 他们的手艺,在知识中, |
| 249 | the skills of the people are still, | 人的技能仍然, |
| 250 | are starting to get older and older every generation. | 每代人开始老化 |
| 251 | Take advantage of artificial intelligence. | 利用人工智能. |
| 252 | Let them codify, let them program, | 让他们编剧,让他们编程 |
| 253 | let them teach this artificial intelligence | 让他们教这个人工智能 |
| 254 | and keep it here in Germany. | 把它留在德国 |
| 255 | And let it re-engineer the Chancellor's words, | 并让它重塑 总理的话, |
| 256 | Chancellor's words, re-engineer Germany. | 丞相言,复为德州. |
| 257 | This is your chance to do it. | 这是你的机会 |
| 258 | Well, I think it's become obvious | 我觉得这已经很明显了 |
| 259 | the prerequisites to scale industrial AI in Germany | 德国工业AI规模化的先决条件 |
| 260 | are here and they are very promising | 他们在这里,他们非常有希望 |
| 261 | and the opportunities related to it are impressive. | 与此有关的机会令人印象深刻。 |
| 262 | It will be key, of course, Chancellor, | 这当然是关键 首相 |
| 263 | to bridge the gap between innovation and implementation | 缩小创新与执行之间的差距; |
| 264 | in factories and in value chains. | 在工厂和价值链中。 |
| 265 | Is a cooperation with Nvidia a part of the plan to do so? | 与Nvidia的合作是否是计划的一部分? |
| 266 | Yeah, sure, and this is already happening. | 是的,当然,而且这已经发生了。 |
| 267 | And I would like to say that I'm extremely grateful | 我想说,我非常感谢 |
| 268 | about what we have just heard from this business | 我们刚刚从这行听到的 |
| 269 | leader of the world in terms of AI. | 在大赦国际方面,是世界领导人。 |
| 270 | So you are giving me and hopefully us a great optimism | 所以,你给我 希望我们有一个伟大的乐观 |
| 271 | about our business model in Germany. | 关于我们在德国的商业模式 |
| 272 | And you might know that I'm always insisting | 你也许知道我总是坚持 |
| 273 | that we have to remain a country with manufacturing | 我们必须保持一个有制造业的国家 |
| 274 | and we should never give up that. | 我们不应该放弃这一点。 |
| 275 | And now we are seeing a great opportunity | 现在我们看到了一个大好机会 |
| 276 | in combining our experiences with manufacturing and AI. | 将我们的经验与制造业和AI相结合 |
| 277 | So if we are successful in bringing these two aspects | 因此,如果我们成功地带来了这两个方面 |
| 278 | and parts of the business of the future together, | 以及未来事业的一部分, |
| 279 | I'm really very optimistic that Germany | 我对德国很乐观 |
| 280 | can be one of the most successful economies in the world | 成为世界上最成功的经济体之一 |
| 281 | because we are already, we are still | 因为我们已经,我们仍然 |
| 282 | the third biggest economy in the world. | 世界上第三大经济体。 |
| 283 | So thank you for telling us what the opportunity is | 所以谢谢你告诉我们 机会是什么 |
| 284 | and comparing us with others. | 把我们和别人比起来 |
| 285 | And I believe and I share your view | 我相信,我同意你的观点 |
| 286 | that the Americans made a big mistake | 美国人犯了一个大错误 |
| 287 | to export their manufacturing. | 出口他们的制造业。 |
| 288 | And now they are faced with a very small, | 现在他们面临着一个很小的, |
| 289 | successful but very small based industry. | 成功但基础很小的工业。 |
| 290 | And this is our advantage to have this broader access | 这就是我们拥有这个更广阔的通道的优势 |
| 291 | and broader approach to the future of our industry. | 以及对我们工业未来的更广泛的方法。 |
| 292 | And look, I'm a large American company | 你看,我是一家大型美国公司 |
| 293 | and we have incredible partnerships here in Germany | 在德国 我们有着惊人的伙伴关系 |
| 294 | for good reason. | 是有原因的 说得没错 |
| 295 | It's good for us. | 对我们有好处 |
| 296 | Our partnership with Audi led to our partnership | 我们和奥迪的伙伴关系 促成了我们的伙伴关系 |
| 297 | with Mercedes. | 还有梅赛德斯 |
| 298 | Our partnership with Mercedes led to our investment | 我们和梅赛德斯的合作关系导致了我们的投资 |
| 299 | in robotics, which led to our partnership with Agile Robots. | 导致我们和Agile机器人的合作关系 |
| 300 | We just made an investment in them. | 我们刚刚投资了它们。 |
| 301 | We made investment, Avilio's made an investment | 我们投资,阿维里奥投资 |
| 302 | Murilla在Reflex航空航天公司投资 | |
| 303 | Last year we made an investment in Black Forest Labs. | 去年我们投资了黑森林实验室 |
| 304 | Here in Germany, you have deep science and technology | 在德国 你拥有深厚的科技 |
| 305 | and deep science and math, which are the fundamentals | 和深科学和数学, 这些都是基础 |
| 306 | for manufacturing, for the deep sciences, | 用于制造 用于深科学 |
| 307 | for artificial intelligence. | 为人工智能。 |
| 308 | And so there's so much technical expertise | 所以有很多技术专长 |
| 309 | and there's so much deep science and deep math. | 科学深厚 数学深厚 |
| 310 | The one thing that you said also is that you believed | 你说的一件事也是你相信 |
| 311 | in a policy of advancing and encouraging AI startups | 推动和鼓励AI创业的政策 |
| 312 | or startups in general. | 或一般的初创企业。 |
| 313 | I think that's fantastic. | 我觉得这太棒了。 |
| 314 | One of the things that I really love about the United States, | 我很喜欢美国 |
| 315 | of course, is that we constantly reinvigorate. | 当然,我们不断重振活力。 |
| 316 | We constantly reinvent ourselves. | 我们不断改造自己。 |
| 317 | And the way we do that is through all the entrepreneurs. | 我们这样做的方式是通过所有企业家。 |
| 318 | And so one of the things that I really love to see, | 所以有一件事 我真的很喜欢看到, |
| 319 | we've invested tremendously in Germany. | 我们在德国投资巨大 |
| 320 | In the last year, we've invested almost a billion dollars. | 去年,我们投资了近10亿美元。 |
| 321 | This week, we're investing in four new companies. | 本周投资四家新公司. |
| 322 | And so in a lot of ways, | 所以在很多方面, |
| 323 | we are one of the largest VCs in Germany | 我们是德国最大的越共之一 |
| 324 | because I believe in Germany. | 因为我相信德国 |
| 325 | And so for all of the other venture capitalists, | 对于其他所有的风险投资家来说 |
| 326 | you better hurry because otherwise, | 你最好快点 不然的话 |
| 327 | I'm gonna take all the good deals and I'm gonna be rich. | 得一切善财善财. |
| 328 | And so the important thing is that the thing I wanna recognize | 所以,重要的是,我想认识的东西 |
| 329 | is that the science and technology capability of Germany | 德国的科学技术能力 |
| 330 | is just second to none. | 仅次于无。 |
| 331 | We have a thousand employees here. | 这里有一千名员工 |
| 332 | We have a fantastic office here in Berlin. | 我们在柏林有个很棒的办公室 |
| 333 | Some of the fundamental inventions of our companies | 我们公司的一些基本发明 |
| 334 | came from our office here in Berlin in Germany. | 来自我们在德国柏林的办公室 |
| 335 | And so this is, you wanna invest here. | 所以这是,你想在这里投资。 |
| 336 | Incredible people. | 不可思议的人。 |
| 337 | May I ask a question? | 我能问你个问题吗? |
| 338 | Could you give us an advice on regulation? | 你能给我们一个关于监管的建议吗? |
| 339 | We are having a very strong debate in Brussels | 我们在布鲁塞尔有一个非常激烈的辩论 |
| 340 | on the European level compared to the US. | 在欧洲与美国相比。 |
| 341 | What is the best way to regulate this industry | 管理这个行业的最佳方法是什么? |
| 342 | or this new technology? | 还是这种新技术? |
| 343 | I think we agree on no regulation is not the right answer. | 我认为,我们一致认为,任何条例都不是正确的答案。 |
| 344 | Too tight regulation is not the right answer either. | 监管过于严格也不是正确的答案。 |
| 345 | But what is from your view the right answer | 但从你看来 答案是正确的 |
| 346 | in terms of keeping the potential damage in mind | 在铭记潜在损害方面 |
| 347 | that this could happen and had already happened? | 有可能发生并且已经发生? |
| 348 | So what is your advice on regulation? | 那你对监管有什么建议? |
| 349 | What can we do better than others? | 我们能比别人做得更好吗? |
| 350 | Safety is paramount. | 安全至关重要。 |
| 351 | There is no future for this industry without safe products | 没有安全产品,这个行业没有前途 |
| 352 | just as there's no future in autonomous vehicles | 就像没有未来 在自主车辆 |
| 353 | if the vehicles are not safe. | 如果车辆不安全。 |
| 354 | And so it is not a choice. | 所以这不是一个选择。 |
| 355 | You don't choose between safety and capability. | 你不能在安全与能力之间做出选择 |
| 356 | They are one. | 他们是其中之一。 |
| 357 | They have to go together. | 他们必须一起去 |
| 358 | And so three pillars. | 故三根柱头. |
| 359 | The first is you can't regulate if there's no technology. | 第一,如果没有技术,就无法调节. |
| 360 | So the technology industry must, yeah. | 所以技术行业必须,是的。 |
| 361 | The technology industry must invent | 技术产业必须发明 |
| 362 | the technology for safety. | 安全技术。 |
| 363 | Just as Ola and I had to invent the technology | 就像我和奥拉发明了技术一样 |
| 364 | and we have the safest autonomous vehicle in the car | 车上还有最安全的自动车 |
| 365 | in the world. | 在这个世界。 |
| 366 | We have to invent the technology that allows you | 我们必须发明能让你 |
| 367 | to achieve the functionality you wanna see | 实现您想要看到的功能 |
| 368 | but also the guarantee of functional safety | 但也保证了功能安全 |
| 369 | and active safety we want to deliver. | 以及我们想要实现的积极安全 |
| 370 | And so that requires invention of technology. | 所以这需要技术的发明。 |
| 371 | That's the first pillar. | 即为第一柱. |
| 372 | But that's something that Germany is incredibly good at. | 但这是德国非常擅长的 |
| 373 | Your science, your math, your technology is incredibly good. | 你的科技,你的数学,你的技术都非常好 |
| 374 | You have to invent the technology of safety. | 你必须发明安全技术。 |
| 375 | Safety is not hopes and dreams. | 安全不是希望和梦想。 |
| 376 | Safety is technology and engineering. | 安全是技术和工程。 |
| 377 | Second, the companies need to have best practices. | 第二,公司需要具备最佳做法。 |
| 378 | Sometimes the young companies, | 有时候,年轻的公司, |
| 379 | they're still trying to grow up | 他们还在努力成长 |
| 380 | and they make maybe more mistakes than they should. | 他们犯的错可能比他们应该犯的多 |
| 381 | We need to make sure that companies deliver | 我们需要确保公司提供 |
| 382 | on the best practices, best methods. | 最佳做法、最佳方法。 |
| 383 | And even in safety, as many of the people in the audience, | 即使是在安全, 许多人在观众, |
| 384 | there are probably many in the automotive industry, | 汽车行业可能有很多人 |
| 385 | you know that safety is deep methodology, | 你知道安全是深刻的方法, |
| 386 | deep best practices, deep engineering. | 深度最佳实践,深度工程. |
| 387 | And that methodology has to be adhered to. | 必须坚持这一方法。 |
| 388 | And then lastly, there's industrial | 最后,还有工业 |
| 389 | and government regulations. | 和政府条例。 |
| 390 | If it turns out that, and remember, AI is two things. | 如果结果是这样,记住,AI是两件事。 |
| 391 | Just as the internet, regulating the internet is hard | 就像互联网一样,监管互联网很困难 |
| 392 | but regulating internet applications is not so hard. | 但管理互联网应用并不难。 |
| 393 | We should be regulating the applications right away. | 我们应该马上管理申请 |
| 394 | And so if there are AI technologies that you see | 所以,如果有AI技术 你看到 |
| 395 | that's being applied to a new type of product | 被应用到新型产品上 |
| 396 | that is not covered by the existing regulatory bodies, | (b) 现有管理机构未涵盖的, |
| 397 | they have to evaluate as soon as possible | 他们必须尽快评估 |
| 398 | and make sure that their regulation includes AI. | 并确保它们的条例包括大赦国际。 |
| 399 | And so I think I've also heard you say | 所以我也听到你说 |
| 400 | that you wanna find that balance | 你想找到平衡点 |
| 401 | between innovation and regulation. | 创新与监管之间。 |
| 402 | There's nothing to regulate if the industry doesn't thrive. | 如果工业不兴旺,没有什么可以调节的. |
| 403 | You want the German AI industry to thrive | 你想让德国的AI行业兴旺起来 |
| 404 | as well as do it safely, responsibly. | 也做安全,负责。 |
| 405 | So I think the balance is really important to do. | 所以我认为平衡很重要。 |
| 406 | And so I think that the answer is | 所以我认为答案是 |
| 407 | we know there's technology we can invent and deploy | 我们知道有技术可以发明和运用 |
| 408 | in order to have AI safety. | 为了有AI的安全。 |
| 409 | We know that there are best practices | 我们知道有最佳做法 |
| 410 | that we can adhere to as companies and industries. | 作为公司和行业,我们可以坚持 |
| 411 | And then in addition to that, | 除此之外, |
| 412 | if necessary, we'll make sure we regulate. | 必要时,我们会确保我们调节。 |
| 413 | Mm-hmm. | 对 |
| 414 | Just briefly, Chancellor, | 简而言之 首相 |
| 415 | what would be your answer to the same question? | 你对同一问题的答案是什么? |
| 416 | Maybe very briefly. | 也许非常短暂。 |
| 417 | No, thank you. | 不 谢谢 |
| 418 | This was extremely helpful | 这很有帮助 |
| 419 | because we are talking about that on the European level. | 因为我们正在欧洲层面谈论这个问题。 |
| 420 | We are talking that on the national level. | 我们在国家一级谈到这一点。 |
| 421 | And my approach is that we at least need the European level | 我的方法就是我们至少需要欧洲层面 |
| 422 | and better we have a global level of regulation | 更好的是,我们有全球水平的管理 |
| 423 | and of safety for this fantastic new technology. | 以及这个神奇新技术的安全。 |
| 424 | So this is my personal view, | 所以这是我的个人观点 |
| 425 | but we are still far from that | 但我们还远没有 |
| 426 | because we are having a different approach | 因为我们有不同的方法 |
| 427 | between the Americans and the Europeans, | 美国人和欧洲人之间, |
| 428 | but we are working on that. | 但我们正在努力 |
| 429 | And most in this room know that I was successful | 在这个房间里大多数人都知道我成功 |
| 430 | to get the AI regulation out of the normal regulation | 使大赦国际的条例脱离正常条例; |
| 431 | of AI in the European Union | 在欧洲联盟的大赦国际 |
| 432 | and to have a special regulation | 和制定特别条例 |
| 433 | for the machinery industry in Germany | 德国机械工业 |
| 434 | and not being part of the general AI limitation | 而不是作为一般AI限制的一部分 |
| 435 | and regulation. | 和条例。 |
| 436 | So this was a big achievement which we had. | 因此,这是一个巨大的成就。 |
| 437 | Give Germany a chance. | 给德国一个机会 |
| 438 | Yeah, yeah. | 对 对 |
| 439 | Give this industry a chance to, yeah. | 给这个行业一个机会,是的。 |
| 440 | And just finally, very, very briefly, Chancellor, | 最后,非常非常简短,总理 |
| 441 | if Jensen came back in a year's time, | 如果詹森一年后回来 |
| 442 | which we very much hope, | 我们非常希望 |
| 443 | what would you hope for him to see? | 你想让他看到什么? |
| 444 | I would like to see him regularly, | 我想经常见他 |
| 445 | let's say at least once a year | 不如说一年至少一次吧 |
| 446 | and discussing progress as we made | 讨论我们取得的进展 |
| 447 | and seeing a guy sitting in my office | 看到一个人坐在我办公室里 |
| 448 | and being extremely happy | 并且极度快乐 |
| 449 | about the German investment place. | 关于德国投资地 |
| 450 | Nothing would give me more joy | 没有什么能给我更多的快乐 |
| 451 | than to see all of my investments in Germany | 而不是看到我在德国的所有投资 |
| 452 | turn into gold. | 变成黄金。 |
| 453 | Okay, so I have every belief | 好吧,所以我有 每一个信念 |
| 454 | and I'm very, very happy to hear your personal support | 我非常非常非常高兴听到你的个人支持 |
| 455 | of the startup ecosystem. | 生态系统。 |
| 456 | I'm very happy to hear | 我很高兴听到 |
| 457 | that there are regulations involved | 涉及条例 |
| 458 | to make it possible for the pension funds | * 使养恤金基金成为可能 |
| 459 | and the risk capital, | 和风险资本, |
| 460 | the risk capital to come into Germany. | 进入德国的风险资本 |
| 461 | And then I'm also super excited to hear | 我也很兴奋 |
| 462 | about all of the AI startups | 关于所有人工智能的启动 |
| 463 | and the startups that have happened | 和刚开始的, |
| 464 | in the last couple of years. | 在过去几年。 |
| 465 | Half of the startups in Germany | 德国一半的初创企业 |
| 466 | being founded in the last two years | 在过去两年中成立 |
| 467 | is AI-oriented. | 以人工智能为导向。 |
| 468 | Yeah, that's terrific. | 是啊,这是伟大的。 |
| 469 | That's great to see. | 赞曰. |
| 470 | Who knows, maybe you are gonna ask him | 谁知道呢,也许你会问他 |
| 471 | for some autographs next year. | 明年的签名 |
| 472 | You might want to bring a pen when you come. | 你来的时候也许想带支笔来 |
| 473 | Once they have their breakthroughs, | 一旦他们有了突破 |
| 474 | some of them, I understand, | 其中一些人,我明白, |
| 475 | were your interns in the past | 过去是你的实习生 |
| 476 | and now they run their own companies. | 现在他们经营自己的公司。 |
| 477 | It's been a pleasure to have you here. | 很高兴你能来 |
| 478 | Thank you to both of you. | 感谢你们两个。 |
| 479 | Ladies and gentlemen, please give an applause | 女士们先生们 请掌声 |
| 480 | to Chancellor Merz and Jensen Franks. | 致默兹总理和詹森·弗兰克斯 |
| 481 | Thank you so much. | 非常感谢 |
| 482 | It was great to have you. | 很高兴有你 |
| 483 | Thank you for having me. | 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 484 | What an upbeat, promising start. | 多么乐观,有希望的开始。 |
| 485 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 486 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 487 | Well, ladies and gentlemen, | 女士们,先生们, |
| 488 | you may now notice a little movement, | 你可能会注意到一点动静, |
| 489 | but this evening is, of course, far from over. | 但今晚当然远未结束 |
| 490 | Members of the press are about to leave. | 记者即将离开。 |
| 491 | As now, this may take a couple of minutes, | 现在,这可能需要 几分钟, |
| 492 | but I'm gonna use this time. | 但我要用这次。 |
| 493 | But I'm gonna use this time. | 但我要用这次。 |
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