如何利用多巴胺克服拖延症、保持动力并增强自信心
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| 0:00 | Dopamine is a topic that I've covered before on this podcast | 多巴胺是我之前在播客节目中 报道过的话题 |
| 0:02 | and many people have heard of dopamine. | 很多人听说过多巴胺 |
| 0:05 | Most people know that dopamine is involved in pleasure | 大多数人都知道多巴胺与快乐有关 |
| 0:08 | to some extent or another. | 某种程度上说 |
| 0:09 | And nowadays people are starting to appreciate | 现在人们开始欣赏 |
| 0:11 | that dopamine is also intimately involved | 多巴胺也有密切参与 |
| 0:14 | with motivation, drive and pursuit. | 动机、动力和追求 |
| 0:17 | Well, today you're going to learn that indeed | 嗯,今天你会学到这一点 |
| 0:19 | dopamine is responsible for all of those things, | 多巴胺对所有这些事情负责, |
| 0:22 | but you are also going to learn that dopamine is critical | 但你也要知道多巴胺很关键 |
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| 1 | Dopamine is a topic that I've covered before on this podcast | 多巴胺是我之前在播客节目中 报道过的话题 |
| 2 | and many people have heard of dopamine. | 很多人听说过多巴胺 |
| 3 | Most people know that dopamine is involved in pleasure | 大多数人都知道多巴胺与快乐有关 |
| 4 | to some extent or another. | 某种程度上说 |
| 5 | And nowadays people are starting to appreciate | 现在人们开始欣赏 |
| 6 | that dopamine is also intimately involved | 多巴胺也有密切参与 |
| 7 | with motivation, drive and pursuit. | 动机、动力和追求 |
| 8 | Well, today you're going to learn that indeed | 嗯,今天你会学到这一点 |
| 9 | dopamine is responsible for all of those things, | 多巴胺对所有这些事情负责, |
| 10 | but you are also going to learn that dopamine is critical | 但你也要知道多巴胺很关键 |
| 11 | for overcoming procrastination, | 克服拖延, |
| 12 | for ensuring ongoing motivation | 确保持续积极性 |
| 13 | and indeed for ensuring confidence. | 和确保信心。 |
| 14 | In fact, we are going to talk about the relationship | 事实上,我们要谈谈关系 |
| 15 | between dopamine and motivation and confidence | 多巴胺与动机和信心之间 |
| 16 | at the level of neurobiological circuitry. | 在神经生物电路的水平。 |
| 17 | And we are going to cover tools that will allow you | 我们将覆盖工具 让你 |
| 18 | to leverage your dopamine in order to have | 来利用你的多巴胺 以获得 |
| 19 | a maximum motivation to overcome sticking points, | 克服症结的最大动机, |
| 20 | which include things like procrastination, | 包括诸如拖延之类的事物, |
| 21 | but also by understanding the neural circuits | 也通过理解神经电路 |
| 22 | in the brain and body that release and use dopamine. | 在大脑和身体 释放和使用多巴胺。 |
| 23 | But more importantly, by understanding | 但更重要的是,通过理解 |
| 24 | what are called dopamine dynamics, | 所谓的多巴胺动力学, |
| 25 | that is what gives rise to big peaks in dopamine | 这就是引起多巴胺大峰的原因 |
| 26 | or troughs in dopamine or what's referred to | 或多巴胺中的槽或指什么 |
| 27 | as our baseline level of dopamine, | 作为我们多巴胺的基准水平, |
| 28 | which turns out to be our baseline levels of motivation | 这证明是我们动机的基线水平 |
| 29 | and feelings of wellbeing. | 和幸福的感觉。 |
| 30 | By understanding how those things relate to one another, | 通过了解这些事情是如何相互联系的, |
| 31 | I assure you that by the end of today's episode, | 我向你保证,到今天的剧集结束时, |
| 32 | you will be in a far better position | 你会处于一个更好的位置 |
| 33 | to understand why you become amotivated, | 知道你为什么变得有动机, |
| 34 | why you procrastinate, how to ensure motivation | 为什么拖延,如何确保动机 |
| 35 | on an ongoing basis, and even how to leverage effort | 持续进行,甚至如何利用努力 |
| 36 | and the desire to become motivated as a way to do just that, | 并渴望成为动机 作为这样做的方式, |
| 37 | to become more motivated. | 变得更有动力。 |
| 38 | Today's discussion is not about psychology, | 今天讨论的不是心理学 |
| 39 | although I will center around practical everyday examples | 虽然我会以日常的实践为中心 |
| 40 | and offer many, many tools that you can implement | 并提供很多工具,你可以实施 |
| 41 | if you choose. | 如果你选择。 |
| 42 | Today's discussion is really about pulling apart | 今天的讨论其实是想拆散 |
| 43 | these things that we call motivation, reward, | 这些东西,我们称之为动机,奖励, |
| 44 | pleasure, procrastination, and understanding them | 欢乐 拖延 理解他们 |
| 45 | in terms of their dopamine dynamics. | 在多巴胺的动力学方面 |
| 46 | So whether you've heard me or others talk about dopamine | 所以,无论你听到我 或其他人谈论多巴胺 |
| 47 | before, or whether or not today is your first exposure | 之前 或者今天是不是第一次曝光 |
| 48 | to the topic of dopamine, today's episode is really designed | 关于多巴胺,今天的剧集是真正设计的 |
| 49 | to give you the biological and practical knowledge | 让你掌握生物和实用知识 |
| 50 | so that you can leverage your dopamine circuitry | 这样你就可以利用你的多巴胺电路 |
| 51 | and your dopamine levels, as well as tools | 和你的多巴胺水平 以及工具 |
| 52 | to adjust dopamine circuitry and levels | 调整多巴胺电路和水平 |
| 53 | in order to optimize mental health, physical health, | 为了优化心理健康、身体健康, |
| 54 | and performance. | 和表现。 |
| 55 | Before we begin, I'd like to emphasize that this podcast | 在我们开始之前 我想强调这个播客 |
| 56 | is separate from my teaching and research roles at Stanford. | 和我在斯坦福的教学和研究角色分开 |
| 57 | It is, however, part of my desire and effort | 但是,这是我的愿望和努力的一部分 |
| 58 | to bring zero cost to consumer information | 给消费者信息带来零成本 |
| 59 | about science and science-related tools | 关于科学和科学相关工具 |
| 60 | to the general public. | 致大众曰. |
| 61 | In keeping with that theme, I'd like to thank the sponsors | 根据这个主题,我要感谢提案国。 |
| 62 | of today's podcast. | 今天播客。 |
| 63 | 我们的第一位赞助商是Helix Sleep. | |
| 64 | Helix Sleep makes mattresses and pillows | 睡吧 做床垫和枕头 |
| 65 | that are the absolute highest quality. | 这是绝对最高的质量。 |
| 66 | I've talked many times before on this and other podcasts | 我之前说过很多次 关于这个和其他播客 |
| 67 | about the critical role that sleep plays | 关于睡眠的关键作用 |
| 68 | in allowing you to be awake and alert | 让你清醒和警觉 |
| 69 | and have a good elevated mood throughout the day. | 并有一个良好的情绪 一整天。 |
| 70 | Sleep is just fundamental to our mental health, | 睡眠对我们的心理健康来说是最基本的 |
| 71 | physical health, and performance, | 身体健康和表现, |
| 72 | and there's no replacing great sleep. | 没有替代伟大的睡眠。 |
| 73 | A key thing we all need in order to get excellent sleep | 我们都需要一个关键的东西 才能好好睡觉 |
| 74 | is to have an ideal sleep environment. | 要有一个理想的睡眠环境。 |
| 75 | Helix mattresses are designed for your unique sleep needs | 螺旋床垫是为你独特的睡眠需求设计的 |
| 76 | in order to ensure that you get | 为了保证你得到 |
| 77 | the best possible night's sleep. | 最好的夜晚睡觉。 |
| 78 | So if you go to the Helix site | 如果你去Helix网站的话 |
| 79 | and you take their very brief two or three minute quiz, | 你给他们做两三分钟的测验 |
| 80 | it will ask you questions such as, | 它会问你一些问题, |
| 81 | do you sleep on your side, your back, or your stomach? | 你睡在一边,背上,还是肚子? |
| 82 | Do you tend to run hot or cold throughout the night? | 你整晚都热还是冷? |
| 83 | And they will match you to a mattress | 他们会把你比作床垫 |
| 84 | that's specific to your sleep needs. | 这符合你的睡眠需要 |
| 85 | I matched to the Dusk mattress, | 我比对了黄昏床垫 |
| 86 | that's the one that works for me, | 那是为我工作的那个 |
| 87 | and since sleeping on the Dusk mattress | 自从睡在黄昏床垫上 |
| 88 | now for well over two years, | 两年多来, |
| 89 | I've been sleeping better than I ever have before. | 我睡得比以前好过 |
| 90 | So if you go to their site, you take the quiz | 所以,如果你去他们的网站, 你参加考试 |
| 91 | and you figure out what's the ideal mattress for you. | 你想想你最理想的床垫是什么 |
| 92 | 去螺旋睡觉. comslash Huberman, | |
| 93 | take their two minute sleep quiz | 给他们两分钟的睡眠测验 |
| 94 | and they'll match you to a customized mattress | 他们会把你配成定制床垫 |
| 95 | and you'll get up to $350 off any mattress order | 任何床垫订单你都可以拿到350美元 |
| 96 | and two free pillows. | 和两个免费枕头。 |
| 97 | Again, if interested, | 再次,如果有兴趣, |
| 98 | 你可以去Helixsleep.com slash Huberman (美国英语). | |
| 99 | for up to $350 off and two free pillows. | 最多350美元 和两个免费枕头。 |
| 100 | Today's episode is also brought to us by Whoop. | 今天的剧集也是由Hhoop带给我们的. |
| 101 | Whoop is a fitness wearable device | 呜呼是健身设备 |
| 102 | that tracks your daily activity and sleep, | 跟踪你的日常活动和睡眠, |
| 103 | but also goes beyond that by providing real-time feedback | 此外,还可以提供实时反馈 |
| 104 | on how to adjust your physical training and sleep schedule | 如何调整身体训练和睡眠时间 |
| 105 | and other activities throughout your day | 和其他活动 |
| 106 | in order to optimize your health. | 为了优化健康 |
| 107 | I've been working with Whoop | 我一直和呜呼合作 |
| 108 | on their scientific advisory council | 科学咨询委员会成员名单 |
| 109 | to help advance Whoop's technology and mission | 帮助推进呼和浩特的技术和使命 |
| 110 | of unlocking human performance, | 解锁人类的表演, |
| 111 | not just for athletes, but for everybody. | 不仅为运动员,而且为每个人。 |
| 112 | As a Whoop user, I've experienced the health benefits | 作为Hhoop用户,我经历过健康福利 |
| 113 | of their technology firsthand. | 他们的技术第一手。 |
| 114 | For instance, it tells me, of course, | 例如,它告诉我,当然, |
| 115 | whether or not I had a good night's sleep | 睡得好吗? |
| 116 | or a poor night's sleep by giving me a sleep score. | 或通过给我一个睡眠分数 来睡得可怜 |
| 117 | It tells me the percentage of rapid eye movement, | 它告诉我快速眼动的百分比, |
| 118 | sleep to slow wave sleep, | 睡觉慢浪睡眠, |
| 119 | but Whoop also tells me, for instance, | 但是Whoop也告诉我,比如, |
| 120 | whether or not certain activities during my daytime, | 无论我白天是否从事某些活动, |
| 121 | such as naps or training | 如小睡或训练 |
| 122 | or training of a certain amount of intensity, | 或训练某种强度, |
| 123 | how that's impacting my sleep and vice versa. | 这会影响我的睡眠,反之亦然。 |
| 124 | If you're interested in trying Whoop, | 如果你有兴趣尝试呼呼, |
| 125 | 你可以去加入. whoop.com slash Huberman. 黑手党的党卫队 | |
| 126 | 再说一遍,今天加入.whoop.com slash Huberman | |
| 127 | and you'll get your first month free. | 你会得到你的第一个月免费。 |
| 128 | Today's episode is also brought to us by Roca. | 今天的剧集也是罗卡带给我们的. |
| 129 | Roca makes eyeglasses and sunglasses | 罗卡制造眼镜和太阳镜 |
| 130 | that are uniquely tailored to the needs of athletes | 适合运动员需要的 |
| 131 | and everyday people. | 和日常的人们。 |
| 132 | The company was founded by two all-American swimmers | 公司是由两个全美游泳运动员创办的 |
| 133 | from Stanford, and everything about Roca eyeglasses | 斯坦福的,还有罗卡眼镜的事 |
| 134 | and sunglasses were designed with the biology, | 和太阳镜的设计与生物学, |
| 135 | the visual system in mind. | 视觉系统。 |
| 136 | I've spent a lifetime working on the biology, | 我一生都在研究生物学 |
| 137 | the visual system, and I can tell you | 视觉系统,我可以告诉你 |
| 138 | that your visual system has to contend | 你的视觉系统必须对抗 |
| 139 | with enormous number of challenges | 面临大量挑战 |
| 140 | in order for you to be able to see clearly. | 以便你能够清楚地看到。 |
| 141 | Roca eyeglasses and sunglasses are designed such | 罗卡眼镜和太阳镜的设计是这样的 |
| 142 | that when you go from one environment to the next, | 当你从一个环境到另一个环境, |
| 143 | like a brightly lit environment | 就像亮亮的环境 |
| 144 | to a less brightly lit environment, | 到一个亮度较低的环境, |
| 145 | you don't notice that transition. | 你没有注意到这种转变。 |
| 146 | You always see with perfect clarity. | 你总是非常清晰地看到 |
| 147 | Another terrific thing about Roca eyeglasses | 罗卡眼镜的又一件好事 |
| 148 | and sunglasses is that many of the performance glasses | 太阳镜就是很多表演眼镜 |
| 149 | out there that are designed for sport | 在那里,设计为运动 |
| 150 | make people look like cyborgs, which if you want that, | 让人们看起来像机器人, 如果你想这样, |
| 151 | they do have those options, | 他们确实有这些选择, |
| 152 | the cyborg options as I call them, | 我称之为机器人的选项 |
| 153 | but they also have many options where the aesthetic | 但也有很多选择 美学 |
| 154 | is more of the sort that you would wear to dinner | 更像是你会穿 晚餐 |
| 155 | or to work or anywhere that you happen to be. | 或工作 或任何地方你碰巧。 |
| 156 | If you'd like to try Roca eyeglasses or sunglasses, | 如果你想试试罗卡眼镜或太阳镜 |
| 157 | go to Roca, that's R-O-K-A.com | 去罗卡,那是R -O |
| 158 | and enter the code Huberman to save 20% off your first order. | 输入密码Huberman 以保存20%的第一订单。 |
| 159 | Again, that's Roca, R-O-K-A.com | 再说一遍,这是罗卡,R -O |
| 160 | and enter the code Huberman at checkout. | 并输入密码 休伯曼在离职。 |
| 161 | The Huberman Lab podcast is now partnered | 休伯曼实验室播客现在合作了 |
| 162 | with Momentous Supplements. | 与瞬间补充。 |
| 163 | To find the supplements we discussed | 为了找到我们讨论过的补编 |
| 164 | on the Huberman Lab podcast, | 在休伯曼实验室播客, |
| 165 | you can go to Live Momentous, | 你可以去"生命时刻" |
| 166 | 拼音为O-U-S,livermomentous.com slash Huberman. 中国新闻网. | |
| 167 | And I should just mention that the library | 我只想说图书馆 |
| 168 | of those supplements is constantly expanding. | 这些补充剂正在不断增加。 |
| 169 | 再说一遍,这是活泼的.com slash Huberman. | |
| 170 | Okay, let's talk about dopamine. | 好吧,让我们谈谈多巴胺。 |
| 171 | What is dopamine? | 什么是多巴胺吗? |
| 172 | Dopamine is what's called a neuromodulator, | 多巴胺是所谓的神经调节剂, |
| 173 | which simply refers to the fact that it's a chemical | 它只是指它是一种化学物质 |
| 174 | that modulates or changes the electrical activity | 调节或改变电活动 |
| 175 | of other cells. | 其他细胞。 |
| 176 | And the cells I'm referring to are neurons. | 我指的是神经元 |
| 177 | Neurons are just nerve cells. | 神经细胞只是神经细胞 |
| 178 | So you have a brain and a spinal cord | 所以你有大脑和脊髓 |
| 179 | and the neurons in your brain and spinal cord | 大脑和脊髓中的神经元 |
| 180 | connect to one another | 互相连接 |
| 181 | and they connect to different areas of the body, | 它们连接身体的不同区域, |
| 182 | including basically every organ of your body. | 基本上包括你身体的每一个器官 |
| 183 | And every organ of your body communicates back | 你身体的每一个器官都会回馈 |
| 184 | to your brain and spinal cord | 你的大脑和脊髓 |
| 185 | through direct or indirect pathways. | 通过直接或间接的途径。 |
| 186 | For instance, you have neurons in your gut | 比如说,你肚子里有神经元 |
| 187 | that sense what sorts of nutrients you've eaten or drank | 感觉到你吃过或喝过什么营养 |
| 188 | and then send neural signals, electrical signals, | 然后发出神经信号 电讯信号 |
| 189 | up to the brain. | 直达大脑。 |
| 190 | And indeed, that whole process | 事实上,整个过程 |
| 191 | happens to be modulated by dopamine. | 恰好被多巴胺调制. |
| 192 | Dopamine as a neuromodulator has the basic property | 多巴胺作为神经调节剂具有基本属性 |
| 193 | of either ramping up, increasing, | 或升起,或升起, |
| 194 | or decreasing the activity of other neurons. | 或减少其他神经元的活动. |
| 195 | And that's done by adjusting things | 这是通过调整事物来完成的 |
| 196 | like electrical potentials and things of that sort | 像电力潜力之类的东西 |
| 197 | that we really won't go into this episode, | 我们真的不会进入这一集, |
| 198 | but that I promise to get into in detail | 但我保证会深入调查 |
| 199 | in a future episode if you're interested | 如果你有兴趣的话 |
| 200 | in the biochemistry and biophysics of neurons | 在神经元的生物化学和生物物理学中 |
| 201 | and things of that sort. | 和类似的东西。 |
| 202 | So we have this neuromodulator, dopamine, | 我们有神经调节器 多巴胺 |
| 203 | and we know that that neuromodulator | 我们知道神经调节器 |
| 204 | can increase or decrease the activity of other neurons. | 可以增减其他神经元的活性. |
| 205 | So then we have to ask ourselves | 所以我们得问问自己 |
| 206 | where is dopamine released in the brain and body | 大脑和体内多巴胺的释放地点 |
| 207 | and what specific types of neurons is it impacting? | 它会影响哪些特定的神经元? |
| 208 | In other words, what specific types of functions | 换言之,什么类型的职能 |
| 209 | does dopamine have? | 多巴胺有吗? |
| 210 | So there are basically five circuits within the brain | 所以大脑里基本上有五个电路 |
| 211 | that use dopamine as the primary neuromodulator | 用多巴胺作为主要神经调节器 |
| 212 | and those five circuits engage different | 这五个电路是不同的 |
| 213 | but related functions. | 但相关功能。 |
| 214 | So I'm gonna go through them one by one relatively quickly, | 所以我要一个一个地通过他们 相对快, |
| 215 | giving you a little bit of nomenclature | 给你一些术语 |
| 216 | and some sense of what each of those circuits looks like | 和一些感觉 每一个这些线路看起来像 |
| 217 | and what it does. | 以及它会做什么。 |
| 218 | The first circuit is the so-called nigrostriatal pathway. | 第一个电路是所谓的尼格罗斯特里亚特通道. |
| 219 | So in the back of the brain, | 所以在脑后 |
| 220 | there's an area called substantia nigra, | 有一个叫做亚硝基亚的区域, |
| 221 | so named because the neurons, they are actually very dark | 所以命名是因为神经元 实际上是非常黑暗 |
| 222 | and they actually contain pigment. | 而且它们实际上含有色素。 |
| 223 | You'd be able to see this if I were to slice up a brain, | 如果我把大脑切开 你会看到这个的 |
| 224 | you'd see two dark regions in the back. | 你会看到后面的两个黑暗区域 |
| 225 | That's substantia nigra. | 这是亚斯坦尼格拉。 |
| 226 | Substantia nigra contains neurons | 亚硝基亚含有神经元 |
| 227 | that are chock-a-block full of dopamine, | 里面全是多巴胺, |
| 228 | but they release that dopamine | 但是他们释放出多巴胺 |
| 229 | in a brain structure called the striatum. | 在一个脑结构中, 被称为striatum。 |
| 230 | The striatum is involved in movement, | 刺客参与运动, |
| 231 | both the initiation of movements | 运动的开始 |
| 232 | and the suppression of movements. | 和压制运动。 |
| 233 | In so-called go, action, and no-go, | 在所谓的去,行动,和不走, |
| 234 | suppress action pathways, a topic for a future podcast. | 压制动作路径,未来播客的话题. |
| 235 | The second brain circuit that uses and leverages dopamine | 使用和杠杆作用多巴胺的第二条脑电路 |
| 236 | to a great extent is the so-called mesolimbic pathway. | 在很大程度上,所谓的 " 中庸之路 " 。 |
| 237 | Now you'll also in a moment hear | 现在你也会听到的 |
| 238 | about the mesocortical pathway. | 关于中枢道。 |
| 239 | So today I'm going to talk about these | 今天我要谈这些 |
| 240 | somewhat interchangeably at times, | 有时有些交替 |
| 241 | but where it's important for me | 但对我很重要的地方 |
| 242 | to differentiate between them, I will do that. | 为了区分他们,我会这样做。 |
| 243 | Both of these pathways initiate from a set of neurons | 这两条路径都来自神经元 |
| 244 | in the so-called ventral tegmental area or VTA. | 在所谓的口腔构造区或VTA。 |
| 245 | I will use that acronym, VTA. | 我会用这个缩写,VTA。 |
| 246 | The VTA functions in close partnership | 瓦努阿图信托机构以密切的伙伴关系运作 |
| 247 | with a different brain structure | 大脑结构不同 |
| 248 | called the nucleus accumbens, or NA. | 叫做核糖体,或NA。 |
| 249 | I don't think I'll call it NA today. | 我今天不叫它"NA"了 |
| 250 | I'll talk about VTA, ventral tegmental area, | 我会说VTA, 腹股沟区域, |
| 251 | and I'll talk about nucleus accumbens. | 我将谈论 核阿库姆本。 |
| 252 | For sake of today's discussion, | 为了今天的讨论, |
| 253 | you can lump those together if you want. | 如果你愿意的话,你可以把它们拼在一起。 |
| 254 | Neurons in those areas project a bunch of different places, | 这些地区的神经元 预测了很多不同的地方, |
| 255 | but in the mesolimbic pathway, | 却在迷途中, |
| 256 | those neurons are projecting to areas of the brain | 这些神经元正在投射到大脑的区域 |
| 257 | like the hypothalamus, | 像下丘脑, |
| 258 | which sits right above the roof of your mouth | 它坐在你嘴顶上 |
| 259 | and is responsible for a lot of basic functions, | 并负责许多基本职能, |
| 260 | things like maintaining your body temperature, | 比如保持体温 |
| 261 | for libido and the pursuit of sex, | 性欲与追求 |
| 262 | for hunger, for the generation of signals | 为饥饿,为产生信号 |
| 263 | to the pituitary gland that caused the release of hormones | 导致激素释放的垂体腺 |
| 264 | and other things into the bloodstream. | 还有其他进入血液的东西 |
| 265 | So the connections, | 所以,连接, |
| 266 | which I sometimes refer to as projections, | 我有时称之为预测 |
| 267 | from the neurons in the VTA and nucleus accumbens | 从VTA的神经元 和核蓄积物 |
| 268 | to the hypothalamus are basically using dopamine | 到下丘脑基本上使用多巴胺 |
| 269 | to modulate the output of a lot of different things | 来调节很多不同事物的输出 |
| 270 | that happen in this hypothalamus that controls a lot of, | 发生在这个控制了很多的下丘脑上, |
| 271 | we could call them primitive functions, | 我们可以称之为原始功能, |
| 272 | but they're really basic functions for survival. | 但它们是生存的基本功能 |
| 273 | Now, the other pathway out of the VTA | 现在,VTA的另一条出路 |
| 274 | and nucleus accumbens is to the cortex. | 和核亚昆本是皮层。 |
| 275 | That's why it's called mesocortical pathway. | 故名为中道. |
| 276 | So this is a very different pathway | 因此,这是一个非常不同的路径 |
| 277 | 从 VTA 和 ccumbens 中 | |
| 278 | than the one I just described a moment ago. | 比我刚才描述的要好 |
| 279 | The pathway I'm talking about now, | 我现在说的路 |
| 280 | the mesocortical pathway, | 中枢的路径, |
| 281 | projects to the prefrontal cortex, | 项目到前额皮层, |
| 282 | which is a structure that many of you have perhaps heard of, | 这是你们中许多人所听说过的结构, |
| 283 | but even if you haven't, it's important to know | 但即使你没有, 重要的是要知道 |
| 284 | this is an area that resides right behind your forehead | 这个区域就住在你的额头后面 |
| 285 | and that in humans compared to other species | 人类和其他物种相比 |
| 286 | is greatly expanded in terms of its size | 其规模大为扩大。 |
| 287 | and complexity of function. | 和职能的复杂性。 |
| 288 | So it's involved in everything | 所以它涉及一切 |
| 289 | from planning and executing of action | 从规划和执行行动 |
| 290 | to making good or bad decisions depending on context. | 做出好坏的决定取决于背景 |
| 291 | In fact, one of the primary functions | 事实上,主要职能之一 |
| 292 | of prefrontal cortex is to really understand context, | 前额皮质就是真正理解背景 |
| 293 | whether or not, for instance, | 是否,例如, |
| 294 | you are alone in your room | 你一个人在房间里 |
| 295 | where certain behaviors are appropriate, | 如果某些行为是适当的, |
| 296 | whether or not you are at work | 无论你是否在工作 |
| 297 | where other behaviors are appropriate. | 在其他行为适合的地方。 |
| 298 | Understanding what the context is | 了解背景是什么 |
| 299 | and therefore what sorts of actions | 并因此采取什么行动 |
| 300 | need to be generated and suppressed. | 需要产生和抑制。 |
| 301 | In fact, a guest on the Huberman Lab podcast, | 事实上 休伯曼实验室播客的客人 |
| 302 | and this is a guest whose episode hasn't aired yet, | 这位嘉宾的剧集还没有播出 |
| 303 | described this beautifully. | 说得真好 |
| 304 | He's a neurosurgeon and he said, | 他是个神经外科医生 他说 |
| 305 | the way to think about the prefrontal cortex | 如何思考前额皮层 |
| 306 | is it's basically an area of the brain that says shh | 基本上是大脑的一个区域 说嘘 |
| 307 | or no, not now to other brain regions | 现在不是其他大脑区域 |
| 308 | in order to suppress action. | 以压制行动。 |
| 309 | And we know this because people that have damage | 我们知道这一点,因为人们有损害 |
| 310 | to the prefrontal cortex | 到前额皮层 |
| 311 | often can't suppress their impulses. | 经常无法抑制他们的冲动. |
| 312 | So the pathway from VTA and nucleus accumbens | 因此,从VTA和核蓄本的路径 |
| 313 | to the prefrontal cortex is absolutely critical | 对前额皮质来说是绝对关键的 |
| 314 | for today's discussion | 供今天讨论 |
| 315 | because we are largely going to be discussing | 因为我们基本上要讨论 |
| 316 | motivation, drive, pursuit, procrastination, | 动机、动力、追求、拖延 |
| 317 | and all sorts of things that have to do | 和各种事情必须做 |
| 318 | with our feelings about context, | 我们对于背景的感受, |
| 319 | whether or not we want to do something or not, | 不管我们是否想做什么 |
| 320 | whether or not we feel we should or we shouldn't, | 无论我们是否觉得我们应该或不应该, |
| 321 | whether or not we feel we failed the last time | 我们是否觉得上次失败了 |
| 322 | or there's a high probability of success the next time. | 或者下次成功的可能性很高。 |
| 323 | Prefrontal cortex does many, many things, | 前额皮层做很多很多事情, |
| 324 | but when thinking about dopamine's role | 但当想到多巴胺的作用时 |
| 325 | in the prefrontal cortex, | 在前额皮质中, |
| 326 | that is when thinking about this mesocortical pathway, | 即当想到这种中枢途径时, |
| 327 | we really want to think about how dopamine is activating | 我们很想想想多巴胺是如何激活的 |
| 328 | or changing our propensity to do certain things | 或者改变我们做某些事情的倾向 |
| 329 | and get us into action or prevent us | 并让我们进入行动或阻止我们 |
| 330 | from doing certain things and prevent action. | 不做某些事情 并阻止行动。 |
| 331 | So basically you can think about the mesocortical pathway | 所以,基本上你可以思考 中枢路径 |
| 332 | as a circuit that really governs all of the major choices | 作为真正支配所有重大选择的线路 |
| 333 | that you're going to make in life about what to do | 你会在生活中 做出该怎么做 |
| 334 | and what not to do toward your goals | 和什么不做 你的目标 |
| 335 | and away from the things that you want to avoid. | 远离你所要避免的。 |
| 336 | Now, the fourth dopamine pathway in the brain | 现在,大脑中的第四个多巴胺途径 |
| 337 | is the so-called tuberoinfundibular pathway. | 是所谓的管状方形路径。 |
| 338 | And this is not one we're going to focus on too much today. | 今天我们不会把太多精力放在这个上。 |
| 339 | This is a pathway that relates to connections | 这是一个连接的路径 |
| 340 | between the brain and your pituitary gland. | 大脑和你的垂体腺之间 |
| 341 | Your pituitary gland being that gland that's, | 你的垂体腺就是那个腺体 |
| 342 | as I mentioned a moment ago, | 正如我刚才提到的, |
| 343 | is also receiving input from the hypothalamus | 正在接收下丘脑输入 |
| 344 | and is releasing a bunch of hormones into your bloodstream, | 释放出一堆激素 进入你的血液, |
| 345 | things like luteinizing hormone, | 比如润滑激素 |
| 346 | follicle stimulating hormone, | 卵泡刺激激素, |
| 347 | things like melanocortin hormone. | 类似美兰果素激素的东西。 |
| 348 | These are hormones that are impacting everything | 这些激素影响着一切 |
| 349 | from the function of the ovary and females | 卵巢和雌性的功能 |
| 350 | to the function of the testes and males. | 以测试和雄性的作用。 |
| 351 | It's governing things like cortisol release under stress, | 在压力下释放皮质溶液 |
| 352 | thyroid hormone, | 甲状腺激素, |
| 353 | meaning it's regulating thyroid hormone release, | 意思是它能调节甲状腺激素的释放 |
| 354 | and on and on. | 不停地说 |
| 355 | Dopamine has a very powerful impact | 多巴胺影响很大 |
| 356 | on the output of the pituitary. | 。关于垂体输出。 |
| 357 | So again, that's probably a topic for a future episode, | 再说一遍 这也许是未来一集的主题 |
| 358 | but it's important in reviewing the different brain circuits | 但重要的是审查不同的脑电路 |
| 359 | that use dopamine as a neuromodulator | 将多巴胺用作神经调节器 |
| 360 | that I mentioned that one. | 我提到了那个。 |
| 361 | Then there's a fifth one, | 还有第五个 |
| 362 | and this fifth one is not often discussed, | 而这第五个没有经常讨论, |
| 363 | and again, won't be the main topic of today's discussion, | 再说一遍,今天讨论的主要话题不是 |
| 364 | but for thoroughness and for clarity, | 惟求彻底和明白, |
| 365 | it's important that we mention it. | 这很重要,我们提到它。 |
| 366 | This is the circuit within your retina, | 这是你视网膜内的电路 |
| 367 | that is the pie crust-like lining of neural tissue | 那是像馅饼一样的神经组织内衬 |
| 368 | on the back of your eye, | 在你眼皮底下, |
| 369 | because remember, your eye is actually part of your brain | 因为记住 你的眼睛其实是大脑的一部分 |
| 370 | that got extruded from your brain during development. | 在你的大脑发育过程中被挤出。 |
| 371 | You know, those two eyes that you see in the mirror | 你知道,你在镜子里看到的那双眼睛 |
| 372 | and that you see in other people | 和你们在别处所看见的, |
| 373 | are actually two pieces of central nervous system, | 其实是两块中枢神经系统, |
| 374 | and within the retina, | 在视网膜内部, |
| 375 | which is the neural portion of the eye, | 是眼睛的神经部位, |
| 376 | within the neural retina, | 在神经视网膜内, |
| 377 | dopamine is responsible for adapting | 多巴胺负责适应 |
| 378 | to different light conditions | 不同的光线条件 |
| 379 | so that you can see clearly both in the evening | 以便你们在傍晚看见这两件事, |
| 380 | and when it gets darker, you can still see a bit, | 等天黑了,你还能看见一点 |
| 381 | and in the morning when it's very bright, | 早晨,当它非常亮亮的时候, |
| 382 | you don't really have to make adjustments | 你不需要调整 |
| 383 | to your visual system in order to see clearly. | 进入你的视觉系统,以便清晰地看到。 |
| 384 | Your visual system does it for you, | 你的视觉系统为你服务 |
| 385 | and one of the ways that it does that | 以及它这样做的方式之一 |
| 386 | is through the neuromodulator dopamine. | 是通过神经调节器多巴胺。 |
| 387 | So today, we are not going to discuss | 所以今天我们不讨论 |
| 388 | the retinal dopamine pathways | 视网膜多巴胺途径 |
| 389 | or the tuberoinfundibular dopamine pathways, | 或多巴胺途径, |
| 390 | and we won't really talk so much | 我们不会说太多 |
| 391 | about the nigrostriatal pathway. | 关于尼格罗斯特里亚特的路径。 |
| 392 | I'll say one more thing about it, | 我再说一件事 |
| 393 | and then I'll leave it alone. | 然后,我会离开它。 |
| 394 | We are going to talk about the mesocortical pathway, | 我们要谈谈迷幻之路 |
| 395 | and we might touch on the mesolimbic pathway | 我们可能接触 孤独的路径 |
| 396 | a little bit as well. | 有点像。 |
| 397 | So today, we're mostly going to talk | 今天,我们主要要谈谈 |
| 398 | about mesocortical circuitry and function | 关于中间电路和功能 |
| 399 | and dopamine within the mesocortical circuit, | 和多巴胺在中枢电路内, |
| 400 | and the reason that we're doing that | 我们这样做的原因 |
| 401 | is that today's discussion is really about motivation, | 今天的讨论其实是关于动机的 |
| 402 | procrastination, goal setting, and pursuit. | 拖延,目标设定,和追逐。 |
| 403 | It's very important to understand | 了解这一点很重要 |
| 404 | that neither dopamine nor the mesocortical circuit | 既非多巴胺,也非中导电路 |
| 405 | cares about any specific goal or pursuit. | 关心任何特定的目标或追求。 |
| 406 | This is a circuit that uses dopamine | 这是使用多巴胺的电路 |
| 407 | in order to pursue anything. | 为了追求任何东西。 |
| 408 | Now, of course, some people have a greater propensity | 现在,当然,有些人有更大的倾向 |
| 409 | to pursue things like work or goals in athletics | 在运动中追求工作或目标 |
| 410 | or relationships or a combination of those. | 或关系或两者的组合。 |
| 411 | Other people, unfortunately, have a greater propensity | 其他人,很不幸,有更大的倾向 |
| 412 | to pursue things like drugs of abuse. | 追求毒品之类的东西 |
| 413 | What are drugs of abuse? | 什么是滥用毒品? |
| 414 | Drugs of abuse tend to be drugs | 滥用毒品往往为毒品 |
| 415 | that increase levels of dopamine to the extent | 使多巴胺含量达到 |
| 416 | that other types of pursuits in life | 生活中其他类型的追求 |
| 417 | that are adaptive for us, | 适应我们, |
| 418 | like work, relationships, school, et cetera, | 工作、关系、学校等等 |
| 419 | become irrelevant. | 变得无关紧要 |
| 420 | In fact, the definition of addiction that I use | 事实上,我使用的毒瘾定义 |
| 421 | and that I believe really matches the neurobiology | 我相信这很符合神经生物学 |
| 422 | very well is that addiction is a progressive narrowing | 很好,瘾是逐渐缩小的 |
| 423 | of the things that bring us pleasure. | 带给我们快乐的东西。 |
| 424 | Healthy functioning of the mesocortical pathway, however, | 然而,中间道的健康功能, |
| 425 | allows us to toggle or switch back and forth | 允许我们来回切换或切换 |
| 426 | between different types of pursuits | 不同类型的追逐 |
| 427 | of all the sorts that I've mentioned earlier. | 我之前提到的各类 |
| 428 | So if we can understand how that mesocortical pathway works, | 所以,如果我们能理解 中枢途径如何工作, |
| 429 | just a little bit, in particular, | 只是一点点,特别是, |
| 430 | when dopamine is released and when it's not released, | 当多巴胺被释放,当它没有释放, |
| 431 | what dopamine does when it's released | 多巴胺释放后会做什么 |
| 432 | to our sense of motivation and drive, | 我们的动力和动力感, |
| 433 | and if we can understand a little bit | 如果我们能理解一点 |
| 434 | about how our recent dopamine history, | 关于我们最近的多巴胺史, |
| 435 | that is, whether or not there is dopamine | 不管有没有多巴胺 |
| 436 | in our system already, dictates whether or not | 在我们的系统中,已经决定了是否 |
| 437 | we are going to feel motivated in the next five, 10, | 接下来的5,10,我们会感到有积极性 |
| 438 | 15 minutes, hours, days, and weeks. | 15分钟,小时,天,周。 |
| 439 | That is all very easy to understand. | 这很容易理解。 |
| 440 | I promise I'll explain it to you in a simple way, | 我保证我会跟你解释的 |
| 441 | but I want you to get a circuit into your mind. | 但我希望你有一个回路 进入你的脑海。 |
| 442 | I want you to envision that there are these neurons, | 我要你想象出这些神经元 |
| 443 | little nerve cells in the VTA and nucleus accumbens. | 神经细胞在VTA和核糖体。 |
| 444 | Those neurons make dopamine. | 这些神经元会做多巴胺 |
| 445 | They send their projections that we call axons, | 他们发出预测 我们叫斧头, |
| 446 | which are like little wires, | 犹如小线一样, |
| 447 | and they can release dopamine into the prefrontal cortex. | 他们可以释放多巴胺 进入前额皮层。 |
| 448 | And now you already know, | 现在你已经知道了, |
| 449 | because you learned it a few minutes ago, | 因为你几分钟前学会了 |
| 450 | that the prefrontal cortex then can ensure | 这样前额皮层就可以保证 |
| 451 | that certain behaviors take place | 某些行为发生 |
| 452 | and other behaviors do not take place, | 而其他行为并没有发生, |
| 453 | that shh or quieting that we talked about earlier. | 我们刚才说的嘘声或安静声 |
| 454 | With that in mind, let's now take a look | 考虑到这一点,我们现在来看看 |
| 455 | at how dopamine is released, | 如何释放多巴胺, |
| 456 | and let's keep two things in mind. | 让我们记住两件事 |
| 457 | There are peaks in dopamine. | 多巴胺中存在峰顶. |
| 458 | That is, dopamine is released into the frontal cortex, | 即多巴胺释放到前皮层, |
| 459 | where it has these effects of activating | 具有激活作用的 |
| 460 | or suppressing action, | 或镇压行动, |
| 461 | and we can think of those as peaks in dopamine. | 我们可以把这些当成多巴胺峰。 |
| 462 | So if I call it a spike, that means an increase | 所以,如果我称它为 猛增,这意味着增加 |
| 463 | and then a decrease. | 然后减少。 |
| 464 | If I call it a peak, it's an increase and then a decrease. | 若我称其为高峰,则谓之增减. |
| 465 | There can also be troughs in dopamine. | 多巴胺中也可有槽. |
| 466 | What do I mean by that? | 这是什么意思? |
| 467 | Well, we have peaks in dopamine, | 我们有多巴胺峰 |
| 468 | and that peak in dopamine can rise up | 多巴胺的峰值会上升 |
| 469 | and then go back to what we call baseline, | 然后回到我们所谓的基线, |
| 470 | or there can be a trough. | 或者可以有一个槽。 |
| 471 | It can go below baseline. | 它可能低于基线。 |
| 472 | So the two key things to understand about dopamine | 所以关于多巴胺的两件事 |
| 473 | is that we have dopamine peaks | 我们有多巴胺峰 |
| 474 | that are triggered by certain behaviors, | 由某些行为引发, |
| 475 | certain compounds, drugs or substances, food, et cetera, | 某些化合物、药物或物质、食物等, |
| 476 | and that we have a dopamine baseline. | 我们有一个多巴胺基线。 |
| 477 | Our dopamine baseline is our reservoir of dopamine. | 我们的多巴胺基线就是我们的多巴胺库. |
| 478 | It's how full or empty our dopamine pool is, | 我们的多巴胺池是满的还是空的 |
| 479 | and that dopamine pool is the pool of dopamine | 多巴胺池就是多巴胺池 |
| 480 | that we use in order to create those dopamine peaks, | 我们用来制造多巴胺峰 |
| 481 | and when those peaks come down, | 当山峰降临的时候, |
| 482 | sometimes they go back to baseline | 有时它们会回到基线 |
| 483 | and sometimes they go to lower than baseline, | 他们有时比基准低。 |
| 484 | which we call the trough. | 我们称之为槽。 |
| 485 | If any of this seems confusing, | 如果这看起来有些混乱 |
| 486 | I want you just to imagine a wave pool. | 我要你想象一个波浪池。 |
| 487 | This is an analogy that was given to me | 这是给我的类比 |
| 488 | by one of our podcast guests, | 我们的播客之一, |
| 489 | 他是Kyle Gillette医生 他是肥胖症专家 | |
| 490 | and works on a number of things related | 并致力于一些与 |
| 491 | to endocrine hormone function, | 内分泌激素功能, |
| 492 | including testosterone, estrogen, in both men and women. | 包括雌激素、雌激素和雌激素。 |
| 493 | Want to check out his episodes on hormone health. | 想看看他的荷尔蒙健康状况 |
| 494 | They're fascinating and actionable. | 它们是迷人和可操作的。 |
| 495 | He's a tremendous wealth of knowledge, | 他拥有丰富的知识 |
| 496 | and he has this analogy for how dopamine works | 他对多巴胺如何起作用有这样的类比 |
| 497 | in our brain and body, | 在我们的大脑和身体, |
| 498 | and that analogy is this notion of a wave pool. | 而这种类比就是这种波池的概念. |
| 499 | If you've ever seen a wave pool, | 如果你见过波浪池 |
| 500 | it's basically a concrete pool, | 它基本上是一个混凝土池, |
| 501 | and there are waves within it, okay, duh. | 里面有波浪,好吧,伙计 |
| 502 | Those waves can be of different heights, | 这些波浪会不同高度 |
| 503 | so they can be little ripples, | 这样它们就能变成小波纹 |
| 504 | and we can think of those as little mini peaks, | 我们可以把这些当成迷你山峰 |
| 505 | or they can be big waves. | 或者它们可能是大浪 |
| 506 | They can be really big crashing waves. | 它们会是大浪 |
| 507 | If the height of those waves | 如果这些波的高度 |
| 508 | and the frequency of those waves is very, very large, | 这些波的频率非常,非常大, |
| 509 | some of that water, | 喝点水 |
| 510 | which here I'm using as an analogy to dopamine, | 我用这个来类比多巴胺 |
| 511 | can slosh out of the wave pool and the baseline drops. | 可以从波池中消失 基线下降 |
| 512 | However, if those peaks are small enough | 但是,如果这些山峰足够小 |
| 513 | or they are seldom enough, | 或者他们很少足够, |
| 514 | well, then the baseline, that is the water level | 那么基线就是水位 |
| 515 | in that pool, stays more or less constant. | 在游泳池里,保持或多或少不变。 |
| 516 | I think this is an excellent analogy | 我觉得这是个很好的类比 |
| 517 | for how dopamine works in the mesocortical pathway | 多巴胺如何在中导道上起作用 |
| 518 | as it relates to motivation and pursuit | 因为它关系到动机和追求 |
| 519 | and all those sorts of things, | 和所有这些事情, |
| 520 | because we really need to think about how the peaks | 因为我们真的需要思考 如何高峰 |
| 521 | and the baseline relate to one another, | 并有彼此之间的基准, |
| 522 | and this is very important. | 这是非常重要的。 |
| 523 | The peaks and the baseline | 高峰和基线 |
| 524 | are not independent of one another. | 彼此不独立。 |
| 525 | They relate to one another, | 他们彼此相通, |
| 526 | so now you have in your mind a wave pool, | 所以现在你心里有波浪池 |
| 527 | and just understand that if you get a great big huge wave, | 只要明白 如果你得到一个巨大的浪潮, |
| 528 | maybe one of them, it will crash out, | 也许其中之一, 它会崩溃, |
| 529 | and some of that water will splash out. | 有些水会流出来 |
| 530 | The baseline will go down a little bit, | 基线会下降一点 |
| 531 | but if you get big peak after big peak after big peak, | 但是,如果你得到大峰 在大峰之后, |
| 532 | pretty soon you're going to empty that pool, | 很快你会把游泳池清空 |
| 533 | whereas if you have smaller waves | 如果你有较小的波 |
| 534 | or less frequent big waves, | 或频率较低的大浪, |
| 535 | well, then the baseline will stay relatively constant. | 那么,基线将保持相对不变。 |
| 536 | So let's think about dopamine peaks and baselines, | 让我们想想多巴胺峰和基线, |
| 537 | and let's remember that for every peak, there's a trough. | 记住,每个峰顶都有一个槽 |
| 538 | What do I mean by that? | 这是什么意思? |
| 539 | Well, when you have a wave, | 好吧,当你有一个波, |
| 540 | you also have the bottom of the wave. | 你还有波的底部。 |
| 541 | When you have a mountain, | 当你有一个山, |
| 542 | you have the bottom of the mountain. | 你拥有山底。 |
| 543 | When we think about dopamine peaks and dopamine baselines, | 当我们想到多巴胺峰和多巴胺基线时 |
| 544 | we have to include that trough | 我们必须包括这个槽 |
| 545 | because that trough, | 因为那个槽, |
| 546 | that is the level of dopamine below baseline, | 即低于基线的多巴胺水平, |
| 547 | really dictates whether or not you are going to feel motivated | 真正决定你是否觉得有动机 |
| 548 | to pursue something or not. | 到底有没有在追逐什么 |
| 549 | So I'm going to give you a visual in your mind. | 所以我会给你一个视觉 在你的脑海。 |
| 550 | The visual in your mind is an increase in dopamine | 你脑中的视觉是多巴胺的增量 |
| 551 | that's triggered by your desire for something, | 是因为你对某种事物的渴望 |
| 552 | and really could be your desire for anything. | 也可以成为你对一切的渴望 |
| 553 | If you're hungry and you're thinking about, | 如果你饿着想着 |
| 554 | oh, I really want a sandwich, | 哦,我真的想要一个三明治, |
| 555 | I really want a, let's think, | 我真的想要一个,让我们想想, |
| 556 | what sandwich would I want right now? | 我现在想要什么三明治? |
| 557 | A really nice roast beef sandwich on sourdough | 烤牛肉三明治吃得真好吃 |
| 558 | with a slice of Swiss tomatoes, slice of pickle. | 用瑞士西红柿切片,泡菜切片. |
| 559 | Here, I'm describing the sandwich that I would want. | 在这里,我描述的三明治,我想。 |
| 560 | So if you're hungry and you're thinking about that, | 所以,如果你饿了,你想着这一点, |
| 561 | dopamine starts rising. | 多巴胺开始上升 |
| 562 | This is crucially important to understand. | 这对理解至关重要。 |
| 563 | Dopamine is not just released when we get the reward, | 多巴胺不仅仅是当我们得到奖励时释放的 |
| 564 | when we get the thing that we're pursuing. | 当我们得到的东西 我们追求。 |
| 565 | Dopamine is released in anticipation of what we want. | 多巴胺的释放是为了期待我们想要的东西. |
| 566 | That increase in dopamine is by no happenstance, | 多巴胺的增加不是偶然的 |
| 567 | no mistake, relates also to our propensity | 也和我们的倾向有关 |
| 568 | and desire to move. | 并渴望移动。 |
| 569 | Remember earlier I told you | 记得刚才我告诉过你 |
| 570 | there's a separate circuit of dopamine | 多巴胺有一个单独的环路 |
| 571 | that triggers movement and that when it's depleted | 触发运动 当它耗尽时 |
| 572 | is causing things like deficits in movement | 导致行动赤字 |
| 573 | related to Parkinson's or other movement disorders? | 和帕金森的运动障碍有关? |
| 574 | Well, that's not pure coincidence. | 这不是纯粹的巧合 |
| 575 | That's because desire and the need to move | 那是因为欲望和移动的需要 |
| 576 | in order to pursue and reach goals | 为了追求和实现目标 |
| 577 | are one in the same process. | 是同一个过程。 |
| 578 | So if I desire a sandwich | 所以,如果我想要一个三明治 |
| 579 | or I desire a cup of coffee | 或者我要一杯咖啡,好吗? |
| 580 | or I desire some water when I'm thirsty, | 或者我渴的时候想喝点水 |
| 581 | there's an increase in dopamine | 多巴胺会增加 |
| 582 | that we could call a little mini peak in dopamine. | 我们可以叫一个小型的多巴胺峰。 |
| 583 | But then here's the key thing. | 但关键是... |
| 584 | Very soon after I realized my desire for something, | 在我意识到我渴望的东西后不久 |
| 585 | that peak that was caused by the desire | 由欲望导致的高峰 |
| 586 | comes down and drops below baseline, | 下临,下临基线, |
| 587 | below the level of dopamine | 低于多巴胺水平 |
| 588 | that it was prior to even thinking about the sandwich | 之前甚至想到三明治的时候 |
| 589 | or the coffee or the glass of water. | 或咖啡或水杯。 |
| 590 | And it's that drop below baseline | 和它下降 低于基线 |
| 591 | that triggers my desire to go out and find that sandwich, | 这让我想出去找三明治 |
| 592 | that coffee, that water, or that blank, | 那个咖啡,那个水,或者那个空白的, |
| 593 | insert whatever it is that you happen to desire, | 插入你们所爱好的, |
| 594 | action or substance of any kind or person, et cetera. | 任何种类或个人的行动或实质,等等。 |
| 595 | So that drop below baseline is fundamental | 因此,低于基线是根本的 |
| 596 | to the whole process. | 整个过程。 |
| 597 | And that drop below baseline was triggered | 低于基线的下降是触发的 |
| 598 | by the preceding peak. | 以上一峰为界。 |
| 599 | So let's say that I desire a sandwich, | 这么说吧 我想吃三明治 |
| 600 | there's an increase in dopamine, | 多巴胺有增加, |
| 601 | then very quickly it comes down below baseline | 很快它就降到基线以下 |
| 602 | just a little bit. | 只是一点点。 |
| 603 | Now I'm in pursuit of the sandwich. | 现在我在追求三明治。 |
| 604 | I'm looking for where I can get that sandwich. | 我想找个地方买三明治 |
| 605 | I can order it perhaps to be delivered, | 我可以叫人送来 |
| 606 | I can go out and find it. | 我可以出去寻找它。 |
| 607 | Now is the stage in which I have to think about | 现在是我必须思考的舞台 |
| 608 | what are the different stimuli | 不同的刺激是什么 |
| 609 | that is the things in my environment | 那是我环境中的东西 |
| 610 | that signal whether or not | 这表示是否 |
| 611 | I'm likely to get that sandwich or not. | 我可能会得到 三明治与否。 |
| 612 | And so for instance, if I were to go into my phone | 比如说,如果我进入我的手机 |
| 613 | and order food on an app | 并在应用程序上订购食物 |
| 614 | or walk down the street and see the sign for a deli, | 或走在街上,看见迹象, |
| 615 | that's a cue that I'm likely to relieve that drop | 这提示我很可能能缓解下降 |
| 616 | in dopamine and get not just back to baseline, | 在多巴胺 并不只是回到基线, |
| 617 | but that I'll get a peak in dopamine. | 但我会得到一个顶峰 多巴胺。 |
| 618 | And indeed that's what happens. | 事实就是这样。 |
| 619 | If I find that deli, I go into the deli, they're open, | 如果我找到那个deli, 我进入deli,他们是开放的, |
| 620 | they're making the sandwich that I want, | 他们在做我想要的三明治 |
| 621 | they make my sandwich and great, I get that sandwich. | 他们做了我的三明治和棒极了,我得到了三明治。 |
| 622 | And that sandwich will have some degree | 那三明治会有一定程度的 |
| 623 | of inherent reward to it. | 内在的报酬, |
| 624 | Some degree of my liking it or not liking it. | 某种程度上我喜欢它或不喜欢它。 |
| 625 | So let's say I like it. | 所以说我喜欢 |
| 626 | It's not the best sandwich I've ever had, | 这不是我吃过最好的三明治, |
| 627 | but all I'm doing is comparing my desire for that sandwich | 但我所做的只是比较我对三明治的渴望 |
| 628 | to the sandwich that I actually got and ate. | 到三明治,我得到了和吃了。 |
| 629 | And chances are it's going to relieve that craving, | 也有可能缓解这种渴望 |
| 630 | meaning it will take that dopamine | 意思是,它会采取 多巴胺 |
| 631 | that had fallen below baseline, up, up, back to baseline. | 已经下降到基线以下, 上,上,上,上,下到基线。 |
| 632 | And if I like the sandwich, | 如果我喜欢三明治, |
| 633 | it's going to indeed increase that dopamine, | 它真的会增加多巴胺, |
| 634 | again, to another peak. | 再次,到另一个高峰。 |
| 635 | Now, if I love the sandwich, | 现在,如果我喜欢三明治, |
| 636 | like it's the most delicious thing | 就像它是最美味的东西 |
| 637 | that I've ever tasted in my entire life, | 我这辈子都尝过 |
| 638 | well then I'll get a big peak in dopamine | 然后,我会得到一个大峰 多巴胺 |
| 639 | when I consume that reward. | 当我消耗的奖励。 |
| 640 | However, chances are the sandwich is more or less | 不过,三明治还是差不多 |
| 641 | as I expect it to be, which is pretty good. | 正如我所期望的,这是相当不错的。 |
| 642 | I'll eat it and I'm fine. | 我会吃它,我没事。 |
| 643 | What do I mean by fine? | 我是指什么是罚款? |
| 644 | Well, there's a concept called reward prediction error. | 有个叫奖励预测错误的概念 |
| 645 | Reward prediction error says that the dopamine | 奖励预测错误说多巴胺 |
| 646 | that it has experienced, that is, | 它经历了,即, |
| 647 | that's released from the VTA and nucleus accumbens, | 从VTA和核糖体释放出来, |
| 648 | is going to be of a certain value. | 将具有一定的价值。 |
| 649 | And that value is going to be compared | 而这个价值将会被比较 |
| 650 | to the desire and expectation | 对欲望和期望 |
| 651 | of what I thought I was going to get. | 我想得到的东西。 |
| 652 | So if you take what you actually got | 所以,如果你拿 你实际得到的 |
| 653 | minus what you expected, that's reward prediction error. | 减去你的预期, 这是奖励预测错误。 |
| 654 | So if the sandwich is basically what I expected to get, | 所以,如果三明治基本上是 我期望得到的, |
| 655 | fine, dopamine comes down basically to a baseline level | 好,多巴胺基本降到基线水平 |
| 656 | that's pretty standard for me | 这对我来说很正常 |
| 657 | and is basically the baseline level I had | 基本上就是基线水平 |
| 658 | before I ever thought about the sandwich at all. | 在我考虑三明治之前 |
| 659 | If the sandwich completely surprises me | 如果三明治让我惊讶 |
| 660 | and is completely amazing, just an amazing sandwich, | 简直是惊人的三明治 |
| 661 | well then the level of dopamine that I experienced | 我所经历的多巴胺水平 |
| 662 | when I consume that sandwich is going to be even greater | 当我吞下三明治的时候 就会更大 |
| 663 | and it's going to be that minus what I expected. | 它会是 减去我的期望。 |
| 664 | So there it's a bigger reward prediction error | 因此,这是一个更大的奖励 预测错误 |
| 665 | in the direction of higher peak by consuming the sandwich. | 朝更高的峰值方向走 通过消耗三明治。 |
| 666 | And then of course, there's the other possibility | 当然,还有另一种可能 |
| 667 | which is the deli's closed or the sandwich they make me | 这是Deli的关闭 或者他们做的三明治我 |
| 668 | is lousy or it doesn't taste good | 糟透了,还是不好吃 |
| 669 | or something happened in the consuming of that sandwich | 或发生了什么 消耗三明治 |
| 670 | that just makes it a bad experience. | 那只是让它是一个糟糕的经历。 |
| 671 | In which case, if we take that reward experienced | 这样的话,如果我们拿下那份有经验的奖励 |
| 672 | minus reward predicted from the initial craving, | 减去从最初的渴望中预言的回报, |
| 673 | well then it's going to be less than what I expected | 那会比我想象的要少 |
| 674 | and therefore the baseline drops below | 因此基线下降至以下 |
| 675 | where it was prior to even desiring the sandwich. | 在那里,它甚至 想要三明治。 |
| 676 | Okay, so all of this might seem a little bit complicated | 好吧,所以这一切 可能看起来有点复杂 |
| 677 | but it's all very simple. | 但这一切都很简单。 |
| 678 | Desire for things increases dopamine | 对事物的渴望会增加多巴胺 |
| 679 | but then our level of dopamine drops below baseline | 但随后我们的多巴胺水平 低于基线 |
| 680 | and it's that drop below baseline | 和它是下降 低于基线 |
| 681 | that triggers the motivation | 触发动力 |
| 682 | to bring that dopamine level back up | 让多巴胺含量回升 |
| 683 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}通过去追查这件事 | |
| 684 | that you wanted in the first place. | 你一开始想要的 |
| 685 | Now, of course, as this is happening | 现在,当然,随着这一切的发生 |
| 686 | you're not conscious of your dopamine levels. | 你没意识到你的多巴胺含量 |
| 687 | You experienced this as context dependent | 您从上下文中体验到此 |
| 688 | craving and pursuit. | 渴望和追求。 |
| 689 | Because remember the prefrontal cortex | 因为记住前额皮层 |
| 690 | is involved in context setting and craving and pursuit | * 参与背景环境、渴望和追求 |
| 691 | because it relates to action and movement | 因为它与行动和运动有关 |
| 692 | which is one of the general features of the dopamine system. | 这是多巴胺系统的一般特征之一。 |
| 693 | So you can start to see | 所以,你可以开始看到 |
| 694 | how this is a beautifully designed system | 这个系统设计得很好 |
| 695 | and you can also see how it's a perfect system | 你也可以看到它是如何 一个完美的系统 |
| 696 | for desire and pursuit of anything, not just sandwiches | 渴望和追求任何东西 不只是三明治 |
| 697 | as I'm giving you in this somewhat trivial | 因为我给你这个小事 |
| 698 | but every day and therefore applicable example. | 但每天都有,因此也是适用的例子。 |
| 699 | So just by understanding reward prediction error | 所以,只是通过理解奖励 预测错误 |
| 700 | and especially by understanding that a craving triggers | 特别是通过理解渴望触发 |
| 701 | a peak in dopamine that makes you motivated | 多巴胺的峰值让你兴奋 |
| 702 | but then drops your level of dopamine below baseline | 然后将你的多巴胺水平降至基线以下 |
| 703 | which makes you even more motivated, | 这使得你更有动机, |
| 704 | you are already halfway through the conceptual aspect | 您已经进入了概念的半途 |
| 705 | of today's podcast because if you can understand that | 今天播客 因为如果你能理解 |
| 706 | you will understand why, for instance | 你会明白为什么,例如 |
| 707 | when you initially want something | 当你一开始想要的东西 |
| 708 | or you think you want something, it puts you into motion | 或者你认为你想要什么, 它让你进入运动 |
| 709 | but then pretty quickly you're starting to feel the pain | 但很快你开始感受到痛苦 |
| 710 | of not having that and that is also contributing | 和它也正在作出贡献。 |
| 711 | to your desire to pursue that thing. | 为了你追求那东西的愿望 |
| 712 | This is a subtle effect but if you watch for it | 这是微妙的效果,但如果你看着它 |
| 713 | you'll start to see it or experience it within yourself. | 你会开始看到它 或体验它自己。 |
| 714 | Your craving for things is not just about craving | 你对事物的渴望不仅仅是渴望 |
| 715 | for those things per se, it's also a desire | 对于这些东西本身,这也是一种欲望 |
| 716 | to relieve the pain of not having those things | 来缓解没有这些东西的痛苦 |
| 717 | and if you can internalize that | 如果你能内化 |
| 718 | and start to develop an awareness around it | 并开始培养人们的认识 |
| 719 | you will be in an amazing position to leverage | 你会处于一个惊人的地位 杠杆 |
| 720 | all sorts of aspects of the dopamine system | 多巴胺系统的各个方面 |
| 721 | in order to increase your motivation | 为了增加你的动机 |
| 722 | especially when things get really hard | 特别是当事情变得很困难的时候 |
| 723 | or when you have the propensity to procrastinate | 或者当你有拖延的倾向的时候, |
| 724 | which is something that we'll get into | 这件事情,我们会得到 |
| 725 | a little bit later in the podcast. | 稍晚一点在播客。 |
| 726 | I'd like to take a quick break | 我想尽快休息一下 |
| 727 | and acknowledge one of our sponsors, Athletic Greens. | 并承认我们的赞助商之一, 运动员格林斯。 |
| 728 | Athletic Greens now called AG1 | 运动绿地现在叫做AG1 |
| 729 | is a vitamin mineral probiotic drink | 是维他命矿物质的辅生饮料 |
| 730 | that covers all of your foundational nutritional needs. | 满足你所有的基本营养需求 |
| 731 | I've been taking Athletic Greens since 2012 | 我从2012年开始就服用运动员绿素 |
| 732 | so I'm delighted that they're sponsoring the podcast. | 所以我很高兴他们赞助播客。 |
| 733 | The reason I started taking Athletic Greens | 我开始服用运动绿酒的原因 |
| 734 | and the reason I still take Athletic Greens once | 和原因 我仍然采取运动员绿党一次 |
| 735 | or usually twice a day is that it gets to be | 或通常一天两次是,它会是 |
| 736 | the probiotics that I need for gut health. | 肠道健康需要的抗生素 |
| 737 | Our gut is very important, it's populated by gut microbiota | 我们的肠道很重要,它有肠道微生物 |
| 738 | that communicate with the brain, the immune system | 与大脑,免疫系统沟通 |
| 739 | and basically all the biological systems of our body | 基本上我们身体的所有生物系统 |
| 740 | to strongly impact our immediate and long-term health | 影响我们当前和长期的健康 |
| 741 | and those probiotics in Athletic Greens are optimal | 和那些抗生素 在运动员绿地是最好的 |
| 742 | and vital for microbiotic health. | 对微生物健康至关重要 |
| 743 | 此外,Athletic Greens还包含一个数字 | |
| 744 | of adaptogens, vitamins and minerals that make sure | 能够确保 |
| 745 | that all of my foundational nutritional needs are met | 我的营养需求全部得到满足 |
| 746 | and it tastes great. | 味道不错 |
| 747 | If you'd like to try Athletic Greens | 狦稱刚刚 |
| 748 | 你可以去田径绿地. com slash Huberman. | |
| 749 | and they'll give you five free travel packs | 他们会给你5个免费旅行包 |
| 750 | that make it really easy to mix up Athletic Greens | 那样就很容易把运动员绿地混在一起 |
| 751 | while you're on the road, in the car, on the plane, et cetera | 当你在路上,在车里,在飞机上,等等 |
| 752 | and they'll give you a year supply of vitamin D3K2. | 他们会给你一年的维他命D3K2 |
| 753 | 再说一遍,那是运动绿地.comslash Huberman | |
| 754 | to get the five free travel packs | 拿到5个免费旅行包 |
| 755 | and the year supply of vitamin D3K2. | 以及维生素D3K2的年份供应量。 |
| 756 | Now I'd like to talk about the dynamics of dopamine release | 现在我想谈谈多巴胺释放的动态 |
| 757 | with a little bit more detail | 更详细一点 |
| 758 | and this is something I've never covered | 这是我从来没有覆盖过的东西 |
| 759 | on any social media post or on any podcast, | 在任何社交媒体的帖子 或任何播客, |
| 760 | either this one or as a guest on other podcasts | 要么是这个,要么是其他播客的客人 |
| 761 | because on the face of it, it might seem a little too detailed | 因为从表面上看 可能有点太详细了 |
| 762 | like why is he telling me all this? | 像为什么他告诉我这一切? |
| 763 | Isn't it just enough to know that there are peaks and troughs | 光知道有山峰和山沟还不够 |
| 764 | and baselines in dopamine? | 多巴胺的基线? |
| 765 | Well, it turns out that if you can understand | 事实证明如果你能理解 |
| 766 | what that peak and trough are really about, | 那顶峰和槽到底是怎么回事, |
| 767 | in other words, what's really happening | 换句话说,到底发生了什么 |
| 768 | when we zoom in on that peak and trough, | 当我们放大 在峰顶和槽, |
| 769 | you'll be in an amazing position to overcome procrastination | 你会处于一个惊人的地位 克服拖延 |
| 770 | and essentially pursue any goals in an ongoing basis. | 并且基本上持续不断地追求任何目标。 |
| 771 | So I'm very excited to share this information with you | 所以,我很兴奋 与你分享这个信息 |
| 772 | because I do think that it has tremendous actionable power. | 因为我认为它有巨大的 行动能力。 |
| 773 | What I'm about to describe relates to a number | 我要描述的是一个数字 |
| 774 | of different findings that have been made | 调查结果 |
| 775 | mostly over the last five to 10 years, | 过去五到十年里 |
| 776 | although to be quite direct, | 虽然很直接, |
| 777 | mostly within the last five years. | 主要是在过去五年内 |
| 778 | And it has to do with the fact that the peak and trough | 和峰顶和沟壑有关 |
| 779 | and baseline that I talked about a moment ago | 以及我刚才提到的基线 |
| 780 | that are associated with craving, | 与渴望有关, |
| 781 | they look like a peak followed by a trough, | 他们看起来像一个高峰 后面有一个槽, |
| 782 | followed by a return to baseline and maybe another peak | 之后返回基线,也许达到另一高峰 |
| 783 | if you get the reward or a drop below baseline | 如果你得到奖励或低于基线 |
| 784 | if you don't or you don't like what you got. | 如果你不喜欢或不喜欢你得到的东西。 |
| 785 | But if we were to zoom in on that peak and the reward, | 但是如果我们放大 在那高峰和奖励, |
| 786 | in other words, to really zoom in on the whole process | 换句话说,要真正放大整个过程 |
| 787 | and start thinking about the circuitry, | 开始思考电路, |
| 788 | 也就是VTA和Accumbens核中的神经元 | |
| 789 | and how it relates to the frontal cortex | 以及它与前皮层的关系 |
| 790 | in a bit more detail, | 更详细一点 |
| 791 | what we discover is nothing short of amazing. | 我们发现的只是惊人的。 |
| 792 | What we discover is that whenever we're pursuing something, | 我们发现,每当我们 追求的东西, |
| 793 | we are always looking for cues as to whether or not | 我们总是在寻找线索 关于是否 |
| 794 | we are on the right path to achieve that thing. | 我们正走着正确的道路来实现这一目标。 |
| 795 | And we are also setting a mindset | 我们还在设定一种心态 |
| 796 | or a context within our brains | 或者我们大脑里的背景 |
| 797 | as to whether or not we are confident or pessimistic | 至于我们是否有信心或悲观 |
| 798 | as to whether or not we're going to achieve that thing. | 至于我们是否要实现这个目标 |
| 799 | Now, this is vitally important for anyone out there | 现在,这对任何人来说都很重要 |
| 800 | who finds it hard to get motivated and stay motivated. | 谁觉得很难得到 动机和保持动机。 |
| 801 | It's also vitally important for anyone | 这对任何人都很重要 |
| 802 | who's psychologically minded in any way. | 谁的心理 头脑以任何方式。 |
| 803 | You don't have to be a psychologist, | 你不必当心理学家 |
| 804 | but psychologically minded in any way and wonders, | 但从心理上来说, 无论是怎样,还是怎样的, |
| 805 | why is it that some people are just so motivated | 为什么有人这么冲动? |
| 806 | and other people have such trouble with motivation? | 其他人的动机有这样的问题吗? |
| 807 | Why is it that some people require perfect conditions | 为什么有些人需要完美的条件 |
| 808 | in order to achieve things? | 为了达到目的? |
| 809 | And other people just seem to manage | 而其他人似乎只是 管理 |
| 810 | to pursue things no matter what. | 追寻一切 |
| 811 | It also relates to the fact that some of us | 也涉及到我们中的一些人 |
| 812 | are very good at achieving our goals in one context | 在一个背景下非常善于实现我们的目标 |
| 813 | and not so much in another. | 而不是在另一个。 |
| 814 | So here's what you need to understand. | 这就是你需要明白的 |
| 815 | I'll stay with the example of the roast beef sandwich | 我会坚持烤牛肉三明治的榜样 |
| 816 | just because we already have that in mind, | 只是因为我们已经想到这一点, |
| 817 | but you can replace roast beef sandwich | 但你可以代替烤牛肉三明治 |
| 818 | with essentially any goal. | 基本上有目标 |
| 819 | The cue that we're going to likely get what we want. | 我们可能会得到我们想要的 |
| 820 | So for instance, the sign that there's a deli on the corner | 比如说,角上有个熟食店 |
| 821 | or that I open my phone and that there's an app | 或者我打开我的电话 和有一个应用程序 |
| 822 | that represents a restaurant that sells | 代表着一家卖东西的餐馆 |
| 823 | the particular sandwich that I like. | 我喜欢的三明治 |
| 824 | That cue, as I mentioned before, increases dopamine. | 正如我前面提到的,这个提示增加了多巴胺。 |
| 825 | You see that and like, oh, okay. | 你看见了吗? |
| 826 | And subconsciously, there's already a signal | 潜意识中,已经有一个信号 |
| 827 | that's initiated by that dopamine | 由多巴胺发起 |
| 828 | that I'm on the right path. | 我走对路了 |
| 829 | Then as I mentioned, dopamine drops below baseline. | 然后,正如我所提到的,多巴胺会下降 低于基线。 |
| 830 | That's further contributing to my desire | 这更有助于我的愿望 |
| 831 | to go pursue that sandwich, | 去追求那个三明治, |
| 832 | either with my thumbs on my phone through the app | 或者用我的拇指在我的手机 通过应用程序 |
| 833 | or with my feet and walking to the deli, | 或用我的脚走到迪利, |
| 834 | standing in line and so forth. | 排队等等 |
| 835 | Then as I mentioned before, there is a peak in dopamine, | 我之前说过 多巴胺有顶峰 |
| 836 | varying height, depending on how satisfying | 不同高度,取决于满足程度 |
| 837 | I find the reward to be, | 我发现奖励是, |
| 838 | when I actually get that sandwich, get that goal. | 当我得到那个三明治时, 得到那个目标。 |
| 839 | Now keep in mind, there is some time delay between the cue, | 记住 提示之间有些时间延迟 |
| 840 | the app, the deli, et cetera, and when I get my sandwich. | 应用, 熟食等, 当我得到我的三明治。 |
| 841 | That gap is going to be different for different things. | 对于不同的事情来说,这种差距将有所不同。 |
| 842 | So in pursuing a four-year degree, | 因此,在追求四年学位时, |
| 843 | it's going to be four years if the diploma is your goal. | 如果文凭是你的目标,那就要四年了 |
| 844 | If it's an exam you're studying for, | 如果这是你学习的考试 |
| 845 | it might be a week long. | 可能要一个星期 |
| 846 | And there will be many other signals | 还有许多其他的信号 |
| 847 | in between that initial cue that, hey, | 中间的初始提示,嘿, |
| 848 | the reward likely lies down this path, in this textbook, | 奖赏可能就在这条路上, 在教科书中, |
| 849 | in this dating app or at that deli. | 在这个约会的应用 或者在那个deli。 |
| 850 | There are many other cues. | 还有其他许多线索 |
| 851 | Those cues come in subconsciously | 这些线索潜入意识 |
| 852 | and involve everything from how long the line is | 并涉及一切 从线有多长 |
| 853 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你是否看到这些类型 | |
| 854 | of people on a dating app that you'd like to see, | 在一个约会应用程序上的人 你希望看到, |
| 855 | whether or not they're responding to you, | 无论他们是否回应你, |
| 856 | whether or not someone's texting you back or not. | 不管有没有人给你发短信 |
| 857 | All of those cues are integrated | 所有这些提示都是整合的 |
| 858 | and adjusting your baseline level of dopamine all the time | 并始终调整多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 859 | as you go to pursue that goal. | 当你去追求这个目标。 |
| 860 | So what the dopamine system does is it doesn't just compare | 所以多巴胺系统所做的 不仅仅是比较 |
| 861 | the height of the peak at the beginning, right? | 高峰的高度在开始,对不对? |
| 862 | I desire that to the reward that you got. | 我希望得到你的奖励 |
| 863 | We talked about reward prediction error. | 我们谈论了奖励预测错误。 |
| 864 | That's the kind of first grade version | 这是一年级的版本 |
| 865 | of reward prediction error. | 奖励的预测错误。 |
| 866 | It's also taking into account all the things | 也考虑到一切 |
| 867 | that happen in between. | 发生在两者之间 |
| 868 | And all of that is serving as a cue | 所有这一切都是作为提示 |
| 869 | for the eventual reward. | 以报应。 |
| 870 | And all of that is funneling | 这一切都是漏斗 |
| 871 | into what we call reward prediction error. | 进入我们所称的悬赏预测错误。 |
| 872 | In other words, the dopamine system is very good | 换句话说,多巴胺系统非常好 |
| 873 | at subconsciously parsing what are the things | 潜意识地分析事物 |
| 874 | that happen between wanting and getting. | 这发生在渴望和获得之间。 |
| 875 | And that's part of the learning that dopamine achieves. | 这就是多巴胺实现的学习的一部分。 |
| 876 | And indeed, there are specialized circuits | 确实,有专门的电路 |
| 877 | from the VTA and nucleus accumbens | 从 VTA 和 核蓄本 |
| 878 | that are involved in just the learning | 参与学习 |
| 879 | of how we achieve or don't achieve specific types | 我们如何实现或不实现特定类型 |
| 880 | of rewards that we desire. | 我们想要的回报。 |
| 881 | So this is called reward contingent learning | 这就是所谓的奖励 或有学习 |
| 882 | because it's learning the contingencies | 因为它正在学习 突发事件 |
| 883 | of what led up to a reward | 以报答真主, |
| 884 | or what didn't lead up to a reward. | 或没有导致奖励。 |
| 885 | At the same time and in parallel, | 同时,同时, |
| 886 | there's an ongoing release of dopamine in the background. | 正在释放多巴胺 在背景。 |
| 887 | And that ongoing release of dopamine | 并且不断释放多巴胺 |
| 888 | that has nothing to do with learning | 和学习无关 |
| 889 | is really just sort of a propeller | 是一种螺旋桨 |
| 890 | that's driving us in the direction | 我们正朝着这个方向前进 |
| 891 | of whatever it is that we're trying to pursue. | 无论我们想追求什么 |
| 892 | So I realize for some of you, | 所以我意识到,对于你们中的一些人, |
| 893 | this might seem like unnecessary | 这似乎没有必要 |
| 894 | or perhaps even an overwhelming amount of detail, | 或多或少的细节, |
| 895 | but it's actually quite simple. | 但其实很简单 |
| 896 | Your brain is trying to figure out | 你的大脑正在想办法 |
| 897 | what happened prior to getting or not getting a reward. | 在得到奖赏之前发生的事 |
| 898 | And it's comparing what you wanted | 这是比较你想要的 |
| 899 | compared to what you got. | 和你拥有的相比 |
| 900 | At the same time, the dopamine system | 同时 多巴胺系统 |
| 901 | initiates a motivation signal | 启动动机信号 |
| 902 | that takes you through that entire round of pursuit. | 让你渡过那一轮的追逐 |
| 903 | And those three things, there's the stimulus, | 还有这三件事 那就是刺激 |
| 904 | the desire, the I want that. | 欲望,我想要的。 |
| 905 | That's the first thing that leads to that peak. | 这是第一件事 导致那个高峰。 |
| 906 | The peak drops a little bit below baseline | 峰值稍低于基线 |
| 907 | and it triggers motivation. | 并触发动力。 |
| 908 | The motivation is the second thing. | 动机是第二件事。 |
| 909 | The motivation is dopamine release also, | 动机是多巴胺的释放, |
| 910 | but from a separate set of neurons within this circuit, | 但从这个电路内 的一组神经元中 |
| 911 | driving you forward. | 推动你前进。 |
| 912 | And the entire time that it's driving you forward, | 整个时间 它正在推动你前进, |
| 913 | it's paying attention to what's there along the way. | 它在注意沿途的东西 |
| 914 | Even if you don't realize it consciously. | 即便不觉悟. |
| 915 | And then there's the reward itself | 然后是奖励本身 |
| 916 | or the lack of reward itself. | 或缺乏报酬本身。 |
| 917 | So those three components, the learning contingency, | 所以这三个组成部分, 学习应急, |
| 918 | which has to do with the stimulus and the reward | 与刺激和奖励有关 |
| 919 | and everything that happens in between | 和一切发生在之间 |
| 920 | and the propeller nature of dopamine as I'm referring to it, | 还有我所说的多巴胺的螺旋桨性质 |
| 921 | those all combine into a total learning | 他们都结合到全面学习中 |
| 922 | so that after you get the sandwich | 让你拿到三明治后 |
| 923 | or after you finish the exam or after you go out on a date | 或完成考试或约会之后 |
| 924 | or after you do anything that you desire to do, | 或做任何你想做的事后, |
| 925 | that system that originates in the VTA | 来源于VTA的系统 |
| 926 | and nucleus accumbens and goes up to your cortex, | 和核蓄积物 升到你的皮层, |
| 927 | it learned. | 它学会了。 |
| 928 | It learned many things. | 它学到了很多东西。 |
| 929 | It learned the contingency between stimulus | 学会了刺激之间的应急性 |
| 930 | and desire or motivation | 和愿望或动机 |
| 931 | and whether or not you succeeded or not. | 无论你是否成功 |
| 932 | It's basically a scoreboard for how you did | 这基本上是一个记分牌 你是如何做到的 |
| 933 | given what just happened. | 鉴于刚刚发生的事 |
| 934 | So actually it's all very simple. | 所以实际上一切都很简单。 |
| 935 | In fact, if you can understand | 事实上,如果你能理解 |
| 936 | even just half of what I just said, | 甚至只是我刚刚说的一半, |
| 937 | you are now in a far better position | 你现在的处境好多了 |
| 938 | to understand everything from addiction to motivation | 从瘾君子到动机 |
| 939 | to procrastination. | 来拖延时间 |
| 940 | And it will make sense of all the tools | 它会让所有的工具都有意义 |
| 941 | that I'm going to talk about next, | 接下来我要谈谈 |
| 942 | which will allow you to overcome procrastination points, | 以便你们克服延迟, |
| 943 | to overcome deficits and motivation | 克服赤字和动机 |
| 944 | and indeed to reset your motivation in an ongoing way | 以不断的方式重现你的动机 |
| 945 | so that you can reach your goals. | 这样你就能达到你的目标。 |
| 946 | Okay, so let's take everything that I just told you | 好吧,那就拿上我刚刚告诉你的一切 |
| 947 | and set it aside. | 并把它放在一边。 |
| 948 | It's still important, but let's just set it aside. | 这仍然很重要,但让我们把它搁置一边。 |
| 949 | You don't have to think about any of those details | 你不必考虑这些细节 |
| 950 | or names or anything. | 或名字或任何东西。 |
| 951 | Let's just think about addiction | 让我们想想瘾 |
| 952 | because in biology and in psychology, frankly, | 因为在生物学和心理学,坦率地说, |
| 953 | it really often pays to think about the extremes first | 总是先考虑极端 |
| 954 | and then work our way towards more typical circumstances. | 然后再努力寻找更典型的环境 |
| 955 | And with that said, | 这么说 |
| 956 | addiction unfortunately is very common nowadays. | 不幸的是,瘾症现在很普遍。 |
| 957 | I just heard a statistic in fact, | 我刚刚听到一个统计 事实上, |
| 958 | that there is an 80% increase in alcohol use disorder | 酒精使用障碍增加80% |
| 959 | among women in the last 30 years. | 过去30年中妇女的人数。 |
| 960 | I talked a little bit about this | 我聊了一下这个 |
| 961 | in the episode that I did about alcohol and health. | 我写了一段关于酒精和健康的故事 |
| 962 | Again, I want to be very clear. | 再说一遍,我想说清楚 |
| 963 | I'm not somebody that is completely against alcohol | 我不是完全反对喝酒的人 |
| 964 | for adults, provided they're not alcoholics. | 对于成年人, 如果他们不是酒鬼。 |
| 965 | Turns out two drinks a week, probably fine health-wise. | 每周喝两杯 可能身体健康 |
| 966 | Zero would be better. | 零会更好。 |
| 967 | If we're honest, zero is better than any alcohol, | 如果我们是诚实的,0比任何酒精更好, |
| 968 | but two drinks a week is probably fine. | 但每周喝两杯可能没问题 |
| 969 | Past two drinks, you start running into problems. | 过去两杯,你开始遇到麻烦。 |
| 970 | And yet many, many people out there, male and female alike, | 然而,很多,很多人 在那里,男女都一样, |
| 971 | suffer from alcohol use disorder, also called alcoholism. | 酗酒症,也叫酗酒症 |
| 972 | The same is also true for things like methamphetamine | 甲基苯丙胺也一样 |
| 973 | or cocaine or other types of substance addictions. | 或可卡因或其他类药物成瘾。 |
| 974 | And the same is also true for a lot of behavioral | 很多行为上也是如此 |
| 975 | or what are sometimes called process addictions, | 或有时被称为过程成瘾, |
| 976 | things like sex addiction or video game addiction | 性瘾或电子游戏成瘾 |
| 977 | or any type of behavior that frankly | 或任何种类的行为 坦白地说 |
| 978 | is leveraging the dopamine system, | 利用多巴胺系统, |
| 979 | but that engages this progressive narrowing | 但是,这涉及到 这个渐进的缩小 |
| 980 | of the things that bring someone pleasure, | 以给人以喜悦的事物发誓, |
| 981 | such that nothing else is really salient. | 因此,没有什么是真正突出的。 |
| 982 | Nothing else is really pulling them in, | 没有别的东西真的拉他们进来, |
| 983 | in the way that their video games or sex or pornography | 他们的电子游戏 性或色情 |
| 984 | or alcohol, pick your substance or, you know, | 或酒精,选择你的物质 或者,你知道, |
| 985 | behavior that you see out there or hopefully not, | 你在那里看到或希望没有的行为, |
| 986 | but that you might suffer from an addiction too. | 但你也会染上毒瘾 |
| 987 | So what's happening in addiction? | 瘾君子呢? |
| 988 | Well, addiction involves dopamine among other things, | 瘾症包括多巴胺 |
| 989 | often the opioid system, et cetera. | 常常是类阿片系统,等等。 |
| 990 | But if we were to think about what's the stimulus | 但如果我们想到刺激是什么 |
| 991 | in an addiction and what's the peak in dopamine, | 在瘾和什么是多巴胺峰, |
| 992 | and then what happens after that peak, | 然后在高峰之后发生了什么 |
| 993 | it all becomes very clear as to why addiction happens | 它变得非常清楚 为什么成瘾发生 |
| 994 | and why it's so pernicious. | 和为什么它是如此有害。 |
| 995 | So for instance, let's take cocaine. | 比如说,让我们吸可卡因 |
| 996 | Cocaine causes dramatic increases in dopamine very, very fast. | 可卡因导致多巴胺剧增 非常非常快 |
| 997 | So if somebody craves cocaine, what are they craving? | 所以,如果有人渴望可卡因, 他们渴望什么? |
| 998 | They're craving that dopamine peak. | 他们渴望多巴胺峰 |
| 999 | They're craving the increased level of alertness. | 他们渴望提高警惕 |
| 1000 | They're craving a number of things associated | 他们渴望一些相关的东西 |
| 1001 | with the feeling of being under the influence of the drug. | 与感觉 在药物的影响。 |
| 1002 | But the stimulus for it simply becomes that line of cocaine | 但刺激它只是 变成可卡因线 |
| 1003 | or in the case of crack, | 在裂缝的情况下, |
| 1004 | that crack rock that they're going to smoke, | 他们将要抽的裂缝岩石, |
| 1005 | and God forbid they're mainlining it. | 上帝保佑他们能控制它 |
| 1006 | You know, they're shooting into a vein. | 你知道,他们正射入血管。 |
| 1007 | What happens is they snort, smoke or inject cocaine | 他们吸食、抽烟或注射可卡因 |
| 1008 | and dopamine levels almost immediately go up, up, up, up, | 多巴胺含量几乎立即上升、上升、上升 |
| 1009 | to a very high peak, okay? | 到一个非常高的峰顶,好吗? |
| 1010 | So the time gap between the stimulus and the dopamine | 所以刺激和多巴胺之间的时间差距 |
| 1011 | is very, very short. | 非常,非常短暂。 |
| 1012 | So short in fact, that there's really no other contingencies | 这么短的时间,事实上, 没有其他的意外 |
| 1013 | in between that the mesocortical system has to learn. | 在中间 中度系统必须学习。 |
| 1014 | In fact, what does the system quote unquote learn? | 事实上,这个系统引用了什么? |
| 1015 | It learns cocaine equals massive amounts of dopamine | 它学会的可卡因相当于大量的多巴胺 |
| 1016 | equals feeling euphoric and energetic, et cetera. | 等于感觉兴奋和精力充沛,等等。 |
| 1017 | And in doing that, it reinforces the whole circuit | 在这样做时,它强化了整个电路 |
| 1018 | so that that short, we can even say | 这么短,我们甚至可以说 |
| 1019 | hyper short contingency is really what the system wants. | 超短的意外事故是系统真正想要的 |
| 1020 | So much so that longer contingencies of say, | 如此之多,所以更长的意外, |
| 1021 | putting in the hard work of, you know, | 努力工作,你知道, |
| 1022 | generating a fitness program | 创建健身方案 |
| 1023 | or a professional program for yourself | 或专业计划 |
| 1024 | or a education program, | 或教育方案, |
| 1025 | which takes not just many days, but many weeks and years. | 这不仅需要很多天,而且需要很多周年。 |
| 1026 | Well, none of that is going to lead to peaks in dopamine | 好吧,这些都不会导致多巴胺峰 |
| 1027 | that are as high as the peak in dopamine | 与多巴胺峰一样高 |
| 1028 | associated with cocaine. | 与可卡因有关。 |
| 1029 | So that tells us something critical. | 这告诉我们一些关键的事情。 |
| 1030 | It is both the duration between desire and effect. | 它既是欲望与效果之间的持续时间。 |
| 1031 | And when I say effect, I mean the rewarding properties | 当我说效果,我的意思是奖励财产 |
| 1032 | of dopamine that are experienced, that's important. | 有经验的多巴胺, 这很重要。 |
| 1033 | So very short gaps teach the system | 所以,非常短的空白 教系统 |
| 1034 | to expect and want short gaps. | 期望和想要短小的差距。 |
| 1035 | Makes it very hard to pursue things that take longer. | 很难追查需要更长时间的东西 |
| 1036 | So when we say it's the short, | 所以,当我们说这是短, |
| 1037 | or in this case, hyper short distance | 或在这种情况下,超短距离 |
| 1038 | or time between the stimulus and the dopamine, | 或刺激与多巴胺之间的时间, |
| 1039 | what we're really talking about, | 我们真的在谈论什么, |
| 1040 | if we were to plot this out on a board | 如果我们在一块板子上设计这个 |
| 1041 | or on a piece of paper, | 在一张纸上, |
| 1042 | is the steepness of the rise of that peak. | 是那个高峰的陡峭上升。 |
| 1043 | It's very, very steep. | 它非常非常陡峭。 |
| 1044 | The peak in dopamine is coming up very fast | 多巴胺的峰值迅速升起 |
| 1045 | after the desire. | 欲灭后. |
| 1046 | And in addition to that, and this is very important, | 除此之外 这很重要 |
| 1047 | the higher the peak in dopamine | 多巴胺的峰值越高 |
| 1048 | and the faster the rise to that peak, | 并且越快升到峰顶, |
| 1049 | the further below baseline the dopamine drops | 多巴胺的下降情况 |
| 1050 | after the drug wears off, okay? | 药耗尽后,好吗? |
| 1051 | So in the case of cocaine, | 因此,对于可卡因, |
| 1052 | it's a very fast and very large rise in dopamine | 多巴胺的升速非常快 也非常大 |
| 1053 | followed by a steep drop | 然后是倾盆大雨 |
| 1054 | and very deep trough in dopamine below baseline. | 和非常深的多巴胺 低于基线。 |
| 1055 | You say, okay, so there's pleasure, | 你说,好吧,所以有乐趣, |
| 1056 | then there's lack of pleasure. | 那就没有乐趣了 |
| 1057 | Ah, but it's worse than that | 啊,但比这更糟 |
| 1058 | because it's not just lack of pleasure. | 因为这不仅仅是缺乏乐趣。 |
| 1059 | If you recall what we talked about a little bit earlier, | 如果你记得我们刚才说过的话 |
| 1060 | that drop below baseline | 低于基线的 |
| 1061 | triggers the desire and the pursuit for what? | 引发欲望和追求什么? |
| 1062 | For more. | 为了更多。 |
| 1063 | And so this sets in motion a vicious loop | 所以这引发了一个恶性循环 |
| 1064 | where people start pursuing peaks in dopamine | 人们开始追求多巴胺的峰值 |
| 1065 | that can come very fast without much effort. | 这会很快的,没有太多的努力。 |
| 1066 | And that's one of the ways | 这是其中之一 |
| 1067 | in which addiction starts to take hold. | 毒瘾开始流行 |
| 1068 | There's a simple way to think about this | 有个简单的办法来考虑这个 |
| 1069 | and to remember if you want to avoid this whole thing. | 并记住 如果你想避免这一切。 |
| 1070 | I mean, the first one is obvious. | 我的意思是,第一个是明显的。 |
| 1071 | Don't do cocaine, don't try it, don't use it. | 不要吸可卡因,不要尝试,不要使用它。 |
| 1072 | Certainly don't get addicted to it. | 当然不会上瘾的 |
| 1073 | Those are all sort of one and the same, frankly. | 坦率地说,这些都是一样的。 |
| 1074 | I don't know many people that, | 我不认识很多人 |
| 1075 | despite opinion to the contrary, | 尽管有相反的意见, |
| 1076 | that use cocaine recreationally | 以娱乐方式使用可卡因 |
| 1077 | that don't at some point run into either a financial, | 在某个时候不会遇到任何财务问题, |
| 1078 | psychological, physical, or some other problem. | 心理、身体或其他问题 |
| 1079 | The other thing that's absolutely critical to keep in mind, | 还有一件事是绝对关键的 记住, |
| 1080 | and this was discussed in my colleague, | 我的同事讨论了这个问题, |
| 1081 | Dr. Anna Lemke's book, | 安娜·莱姆克博士的书 |
| 1082 | Dopamine Nation and on this podcast. | 多巴胺国家 和这个播客。 |
| 1083 | Excellent book, by the way, I highly recommend it. | 对了,我非常推荐这本书 |
| 1084 | If you haven't read it already, | 如果你还没有读过 |
| 1085 | it's a fascinating exploration into dopamine | 这是对多巴胺的迷人探索 |
| 1086 | as it relates to addiction, | 因为它与成瘾有关, |
| 1087 | not just drug addiction, but other types of addiction. | 不只是吸毒,还有其他类型的吸毒 |
| 1088 | Again, the name of that book is Dopamine Nation. | 那本书的名字是多巴明民族 |
| 1089 | We'll provide a link to it in the show note captions. | 我们会在节目字幕中提供链接 |
| 1090 | The other thing that happens | 还有一件事 |
| 1091 | after those big, fast increases in dopamine | 在多巴胺的快速增长之后 |
| 1092 | caused by things like cocaine is afterwards, | 可卡因是后来造成的, |
| 1093 | when it quickly drops below baseline, | 当它迅速下降 低于基线, |
| 1094 | it takes a much longer time to get back | 回来需要更长的时间 |
| 1095 | to the original baseline than it did prior to using the drug. | 与使用该药物之前相比,改为原基准。 |
| 1096 | And worse still is that the peaks in dopamine | 更糟的是多巴胺的峰顶 |
| 1097 | that are created from more consumption of cocaine | 可卡因消费增加所造成的影响 |
| 1098 | leads to progressively lower peaks | 导致峰值逐渐降低 |
| 1099 | and deeper troughs below baseline. | 和低于基线的更深槽。 |
| 1100 | So the whole system is shifting away from pleasure | 所以整个系统都从快乐中消失了 |
| 1101 | and more to pain and the desire for pursuit of the drug. | 更多的是痛苦和追求毒品的欲望 |
| 1102 | This is a terrible situation | 情况很糟 |
| 1103 | and it's a terrible situation | 情况很糟 |
| 1104 | that's not just unique to cocaine. | 这不仅仅是可卡因独有的 |
| 1105 | In fact, if we were to look at the averages, | 事实上,如果我们看看平均值, |
| 1106 | and again, these are averages | 而且,这些是平均的 |
| 1107 | of the height of the peaks in dopamine | 多巴胺峰的高度 |
| 1108 | that are created by different substances | 由不同物质产生 |
| 1109 | and the rates at which those peaks take place, | 以及那些高峰的发生速度, |
| 1110 | because remember the time to peak | 因为记得高峰的时候 |
| 1111 | is just as important as how high that peak goes. | 和高峰有多高一样重要 |
| 1112 | We see some pretty interesting numbers. | 我们看到一些有趣的数字。 |
| 1113 | So for instance, and again, | 比如说 再说一遍 |
| 1114 | these are averages based on neuroimaging | 这些是神经成像的平均值 |
| 1115 | combined with what are called PET scans, | 结合所谓的PET扫描, |
| 1116 | positron emission tomography, | 原物排放成像仪, |
| 1117 | combined with blood draws and a number of other data | 与血画和若干其他数据相结合 |
| 1118 | from both animal and human studies. | 从动物和人类的研究。 |
| 1119 | You find is that at baseline, | 你发现在基线, |
| 1120 | just kind of on a background of no drug taking of any kind, | 只是那种背景 没有服用任何药物, |
| 1121 | the neurons in the ventricle mental nucleus accumbens area | 心胸神经核的神经元 |
| 1122 | are firing at a rate of about three to four per second, | 发射速度约为每秒三至四, |
| 1123 | releasing dopamine. | 释放多巴胺 |
| 1124 | So that's your baseline of dopamine release. | 这就是你释放多巴胺的基准 |
| 1125 | Your forebrain is always seeing a little bit of dopamine | 你的前脑总是有一点多巴胺 |
| 1126 | from that system. | 从系统。 |
| 1127 | If you were then to anticipate food | 如果你早料到会吃东西 |
| 1128 | and you're relatively hungry, that would double, okay? | 你相对饿了,那会加倍,好吗? |
| 1129 | So this probably happened when you decide to eat lunch today | 所以今天你决定吃午饭的时候 可能会发生这种事 |
| 1130 | if you were hungry prior to eating lunch. | 如果你在吃午饭前饿了 |
| 1131 | It doubles in the anticipation of the food | 食物的预期会加倍 |
| 1132 | and then depending on how much you enjoyed that food, | 然后取决于你有多享受这些食物 |
| 1133 | it might triple or quadruple, | 它可能三倍或三倍, |
| 1134 | it might be lower than it was during the anticipation | 可能比预期的要低 |
| 1135 | as we talked about before. | 就像我们之前说过的 |
| 1136 | So there's an approximate doubling under conditions | 因此,在条件下,有大约一倍 |
| 1137 | of desiring and consuming food. | 渴望和消费食物。 |
| 1138 | Let's take nicotine as the next example. | 以尼古丁为下例. |
| 1139 | For people that use nicotine, | 对于使用尼古丁的人, |
| 1140 | either smoking, vaping, snuffing or dipping, | 要么抽烟 洗手 吸血 要么滴水 |
| 1141 | all routes of nicotine administration | 尼古丁管理的所有路线 |
| 1142 | that I covered in our episode about nicotine, | 我报导了尼古丁的事 |
| 1143 | there's about a 150% increase | 大约增加了150% |
| 1144 | in the rate of dopamine neuron firing. | 多巴胺神经元的发火率。 |
| 1145 | Cocaine is going to increase the rate of dopamine output | 可卡因会提高多巴胺产量 |
| 1146 | into the prefrontal cortex by about 1,000%, okay? | 进入前额皮层约1000%,好吗? |
| 1147 | So what you're really talking about here | 所以,你真正在说什么在这里 |
| 1148 | is a 10-fold increase in the amount of dopamine | 多巴胺含量增加10倍 |
| 1149 | that's released into the prefrontal cortex | 释放到前额皮层 |
| 1150 | as measured by the rates of firing | 以射击率衡量的 |
| 1151 | of these dopamine neurons. | 这些多巴胺神经元。 |
| 1152 | Methamphetamine is going to be anywhere from 1,000%, | 甲基安非他明将在1000 %左右的地方出现, |
| 1153 | anywhere up to 10,000%. | 超过一万分之一的地方 |
| 1154 | It really varies depending on the potency of the drug | 视药物的威力而异 |
| 1155 | and a few other factors. | 还有其他几个因素。 |
| 1156 | And here's where perhaps it gets a little more interesting. | 这里也许更有趣一些。 |
| 1157 | Some of you are probably wondering about caffeine | 你们中有些人可能会在想咖啡因 |
| 1158 | or about sex or about video games. | 性爱或电子游戏 |
| 1159 | Now, there are the numbers vary tremendously. | 现在,数字差异很大。 |
| 1160 | And it's really important to understand | 理解这一点很重要 |
| 1161 | that across the board, not just for caffeine, sex, | 不只是咖啡因 性爱 |
| 1162 | video games, but also for nicotine, alcohol, | 还有尼古丁 酒精 |
| 1163 | and other substances and what we call motivated behaviors, | 以及其他物质,以及我们称之为动机的行为, |
| 1164 | some of which are part of a healthy life | 有些是健康生活的一部分 |
| 1165 | like eating and reproduction, | 喜欢吃和繁殖, |
| 1166 | provided it's age-appropriate, context-appropriate, | 如果它适合年龄,适合背景, |
| 1167 | species-appropriate, consensual, | 适合物种的、自愿的、 |
| 1168 | well, then we consider it adaptive. | 好吧,那么我们认为它是适应性的。 |
| 1169 | If it's not, well, then consider it maladaptive. | 如果不是,那么就认为它不适应。 |
| 1170 | Some people will sit down to play a video game. | 有些人会坐下来玩电子游戏。 |
| 1171 | They really like video games. | 他们很喜欢电子游戏 |
| 1172 | And as they're sitting down, | 当他们坐下时, |
| 1173 | they will experience a five-fold increase | 他们将会增加五倍 |
| 1174 | in the rate of dopamine output from their nucleus accumbens. | 以多巴胺的分泌率计算 |
| 1175 | For other people, it's going to be a 10-fold increase. | 对于其他人来说,将增加10倍. |
| 1176 | For other people like me, | 对于像我这样的人 |
| 1177 | who don't like video games very much, | 谁不喜欢电子游戏, |
| 1178 | I don't have anything against them. | 我对他们没什么意见 |
| 1179 | I don't dislike them, but it doesn't do much for me. | 我不讨厌他们,但对我没什么用 |
| 1180 | It might not cause any increase whatsoever. | 这可能不会造成任何增加。 |
| 1181 | It might even cause a decrease in dopamine. | 它甚至可能导致多巴胺的减少. |
| 1182 | So there's a lot of individual variability. | 因此,个体的可变性很多. |
| 1183 | For sex, it turns out to be a range. | 对于性而言,结果是一个范围. |
| 1184 | So the typical range that's cited in the literature | 所以文献中引用的典型范围 |
| 1185 | is anywhere from a four to five-fold increase | 从四倍增加到五倍 |
| 1186 | in the rate of dopamine neuron firing. | 多巴胺神经元的发火率。 |
| 1187 | However, there are certain individuals | 不过,有些个人 |
| 1188 | for which that number is doubled. | 这个数字翻了一番。 |
| 1189 | Caffeine is a little bit of a special circumstance | 咖啡因有点特殊 |
| 1190 | because caffeine has the property | 因为咖啡因有财产 |
| 1191 | of not just causing the release of dopamine, | 不只是导致多巴胺的释放, |
| 1192 | but increasing the amount of dopamine receptors over time. | 但随着时间推移,多巴胺受体的数量会增加. |
| 1193 | And there aren't a lot of excellent measurements | 也没什么好测量的 |
| 1194 | of the amount of dopamine released | 多巴胺释放量 |
| 1195 | as a function of caffeine intake | 咖啡因摄入量的作用 |
| 1196 | in different populations of humans. | 在不同的人群中。 |
| 1197 | It's mostly animal studies. | 主要是动物研究. |
| 1198 | But what we think based on the Gestalt, | 但是我们根据Gestalt的想法 |
| 1199 | based on the overall picture of the literature, | 根据文献的总体情况, |
| 1200 | is that it's an approximate doubling | 大约是两倍 |
| 1201 | of the dopamine signaling that's coming out | 发出多巴胺信号 |
| 1202 | of the VTA nucleus accumbens to prefrontal cortex | VTA 核糖体到前额皮层 |
| 1203 | when we anticipate and when we drink our coffee. | 当我们预料到, 当我们喝我们的咖啡。 |
| 1204 | Again, I really want to be clear that | 再说一遍,我真的想说清楚 |
| 1205 | for all of these things, these are relative levels | 对于所有这些事情, 这些是相对水平 |
| 1206 | and they are distribution. | 它们是分发的。 |
| 1207 | So if we were to plot them out on paper, | 所以如果我们在纸面上设计他们 |
| 1208 | you would see that these are not bar graphs. | 你可以看到这些不是条形图。 |
| 1209 | These are overlapping curves to some extent. | 这些曲线在某种程度上是重叠的。 |
| 1210 | So some people are going to achieve more dopamine release | 所以有些人会得到更多的多巴胺释放 |
| 1211 | or less dopamine release from one behavior or substance. | 一种行为或物质释放多巴胺 |
| 1212 | However, it's very clear that cocaine, methamphetamine, | 然而,很明显,可卡因,甲基苯丙胺, |
| 1213 | even heroin for that matter, | 即使是海洛因也一样 |
| 1214 | are way out on the right-hand side of the curve, | 是在曲线的右边, |
| 1215 | causing enormous increases in dopamine very quickly. | 导致多巴胺的急剧增加 |
| 1216 | And the other things that we described have, | 而我们描述的其他事情, |
| 1217 | again, a distribution that is more leftward shifted | 同样,一个更左转的分布 |
| 1218 | on this imaginary plot that I'm creating. | 我想象中的剧情 |
| 1219 | It's a lot of individual variability. | 个体多变. |
| 1220 | However, it's fascinating that dopamine | 不过,多巴胺很迷人 |
| 1221 | is the single molecule that's causing the craving | 是导致渴望的单分子 |
| 1222 | and pursuit and experience | 追求和经验 |
| 1223 | of all of these substances and behaviors. | 所有这些物质和行为。 |
| 1224 | And the learning of all of that craving pursuit | 和学习所有渴望的追求 |
| 1225 | and actual experience is what predicts | 而实际经验是预测 |
| 1226 | whether or not we will re-engage, reuse that substance | 我们是否将重新投入,再利用该物质 |
| 1227 | or not re-engage in a behavior or not | 或不重新参与某行为 |
| 1228 | and how frequently we will do that. | 我们经常这样做。 |
| 1229 | So that's addiction. | 所以这是上瘾。 |
| 1230 | But if you understand how the height | 但如果你明白这高度 |
| 1231 | of those peaks in dopamine | 这些多巴胺峰中 |
| 1232 | and the rate to reach those peaks | 和达到这些高峰的速度 |
| 1233 | and the troughs that result | 和产生的槽 |
| 1234 | and how long the troughs take to get back to baseline, | 和多久的槽 回到基线, |
| 1235 | if you understand or a little or all of that, | 如果你理解,或一点点或所有, |
| 1236 | you're really in a terrific position | 你真的很厉害 |
| 1237 | to understand how to leverage the dopamine system | 了解如何利用多巴胺系统 |
| 1238 | for the pursuit of healthy goals and behaviors. | 追求健康的目标和行为。 |
| 1239 | I should mention one thing about recovery from addiction, | 我该提一件事 关于戒毒, |
| 1240 | which is that the reset of all that dopamine circuitry | 就是所有多巴胺电路的重置 |
| 1241 | from unhealthy to healthy often involves, | 从不健康到健康往往涉及: |
| 1242 | depending on the addiction, 30 days of complete abstinence. | 根据成瘾程度 30天的禁欲 |
| 1243 | That 30 days of complete abstinence | 30天的彻底禁欲 |
| 1244 | inevitably involves a lot of pain and discomfort | 难免会很痛苦很不舒服 |
| 1245 | and craving, anxiety, insomnia, et cetera, | 渴望,焦虑,失眠等, |
| 1246 | that relates to the big trough in dopamine | 与多巴胺中的大槽有关 |
| 1247 | that inevitably occurs. | 这不可避免地会发生。 |
| 1248 | Now, of course, there are some addictions | 现在,当然,有些瘾 |
| 1249 | such as severe alcohol addiction | 例如严重酗酒 |
| 1250 | and in some cases, opiate addiction | 在某些情况下,阿片剂成瘾 |
| 1251 | that immediate and sustained abstinence | 立即持续禁欲 |
| 1252 | cannot be used as the tool. | 无法用作工具。 |
| 1253 | Somebody really needs to work with an addiction specialist | 某人真的需要和毒瘾专家合作 |
| 1254 | and sometimes there needs to be a tapering off | 有时需要松绑 |
| 1255 | of the substance. | 内容。 |
| 1256 | For other addictions, it can be cold turkey. | 对于其他成瘾者,可以是冷火鸡. |
| 1257 | And then of course, there are other addictions, | 当然还有别的瘾 |
| 1258 | particular food and sex, | 特别的食物和性, |
| 1259 | but sometimes even things like video games | 但有时甚至像电子游戏 |
| 1260 | for which the desired outcome | 预期成果 |
| 1261 | is not necessarily to eliminate the behavior completely, | 不一定完全消除行为 |
| 1262 | but to set some constraints around the behavior | 但要在行为上设置一些约束 |
| 1263 | so that it's not occurring to the exclusion | 因此,它不会发生 在排除 |
| 1264 | of other pleasureful things in life | 生活中其他快乐的东西 |
| 1265 | and adaptive things in life. | 和适应性的东西在生活中。 |
| 1266 | And for that, there is the requirement | 为此,需要 |
| 1267 | for what are called the binding behaviors. | 对于所谓的约束行为。 |
| 1268 | We'll get back to binding behaviors later, | 我们待会再讨论约束行为 |
| 1269 | but binding behaviors are behaviors | 但约束行为是行为 |
| 1270 | in which people bind their behavior | 在其中人们约束他们的行为 |
| 1271 | around a particular substance use | 围绕特定物质用途 |
| 1272 | or around a particular behavioral addiction, | 或围绕特定的行为成瘾, |
| 1273 | like sex, video games, et cetera, | 像性,电子游戏等等, |
| 1274 | in space and or time. | 在空间和时间。 |
| 1275 | In space, meaning they might only engage | 在太空中,意味着他们可能只参与 |
| 1276 | in those particular behaviors in certain places | 在某些地方的特定行为 |
| 1277 | and certain times when it's context appropriate. | 和某些时间 当它适合的背景。 |
| 1278 | And there are numerous examples of binding behaviors | 有很多约束行为的例子 |
| 1279 | in space and time. | 在空间和时间。 |
| 1280 | It all has to do with clamping or directing | 这都和夹或指挥有关 |
| 1281 | when the engagement with the dopamine releasing behavior | 当与多巴胺释放行为发生接触时 |
| 1282 | is going to occur. | 将会发生。 |
| 1283 | So what's happening when people decide to go cold turkey | 所以,当人们决定去冷火鸡。 |
| 1284 | or they use these binding behaviors? | 还是他们用这些束缚行为? |
| 1285 | Well, what's happening is that people are engaging | 发生的事情是人们在参与 |
| 1286 | the specific circuitry within the prefrontal cortex | 前额皮层内的特定电路 |
| 1287 | that, as I mentioned at the beginning of the episode, | 正如我在剧集开头提到的 |
| 1288 | are important for context setting. | 对背景设置很重要。 |
| 1289 | So in the cases of binding behaviors, | 因此,在约束行为的情况下, |
| 1290 | the prefrontal cortex is essentially getting trained up | 前额皮层基本上正在接受训练 |
| 1291 | to understand that, okay, certain things like food | 要明白,好吧,某些事情 像食物 |
| 1292 | or perhaps sex or perhaps video games, | 或者性,或者电子游戏, |
| 1293 | they're okay if they are done or consumed | 如果它们完成或消耗,它们就没事 |
| 1294 | in appropriate amounts or in particular contexts. | 在适当数额或特定情况下。 |
| 1295 | That requires the context setting goal-directed behavior | 这需要背景设定目标导向的行为 |
| 1296 | that the prefrontal cortex is responsible. | 前额皮层负责。 |
| 1297 | Okay, so for the last 10 or 15 minutes, | 好吧,所以过去10或15分钟, |
| 1298 | we've been talking a lot about addiction. | 我们一直在谈论毒瘾。 |
| 1299 | And actually, this is not an episode about addiction. | 实际上,这不是关于瘾癖的一集。 |
| 1300 | However, if you understand a little bit | 但是,如果你理解一点 |
| 1301 | about the dopamine dynamics in an addiction, | 关于多巴胺在成瘾中的动态, |
| 1302 | you can leverage that knowledge | 你可以利用这些知识 |
| 1303 | towards healthy adaptive goal pursuit | 追求健康的适应目标 |
| 1304 | and achieving your goals. | 并实现你的目标。 |
| 1305 | So let's think about that in the context | 所以,让我们考虑一下背景 |
| 1306 | of what generates dopamine peaks, | 以产生多巴胺的山峰发誓, |
| 1307 | what generates desire to pursue goals, | 使人们渴望实现目标, |
| 1308 | what causes our readout of whether or not | 是什么导致我们读出是否 |
| 1309 | we achieved a goal or not. | 我们是否实现了目标。 |
| 1310 | In other words, what allows us to learn | 换句话说,是什么让我们学会 |
| 1311 | how to pursue goals of different kinds, | 如何追求不同的目标, |
| 1312 | not just get good at achieving one kind of goal, | 不只是能实现某种目标 |
| 1313 | but really understand and get really, really good | 但真正理解和得到 真正,真的很好 |
| 1314 | at setting goals and pursuing goals of different kinds | 确定目标和追求不同目标 |
| 1315 | that are adaptive in different areas of life, | 适应不同生活领域, |
| 1316 | because we all are going to have to pursue goals | 因为我们都要追求目标 |
| 1317 | in school, work, relationships, fitness, mental health | 学校、工作、关系、健身、心理健康 |
| 1318 | and on and on in order to be our best selves. | 为了成为我们最好的自己 |
| 1319 | That's clear. | 说得很清楚 |
| 1320 | Well, all of that is possible | 这一切是可能的 |
| 1321 | using the same basic set of dopamine circuits | 使用相同的多巴胺基本电路 |
| 1322 | and the same basic dynamics of dopamine. | 和多巴胺相同的基本动力学 |
| 1323 | So for instance, if we are going to feel motivated at all, | 因此,举例来说,如果我们要 感觉有动力, |
| 1324 | that is if we are going to wake up in the morning | 如果我们早上醒来 |
| 1325 | or have any period of time during our day | 或者在白天有一段时间 |
| 1326 | in which we feel like we are capable of pursuing goals, | 我们觉得我们有能力追求目标, |
| 1327 | we are going to have to have a healthy level | 我们要保持健康 |
| 1328 | of baseline dopamine. | 基线多巴胺。 |
| 1329 | In other words, we are going to have to have enough dopamine | 换句话说,我们要吃足够的多巴胺 |
| 1330 | in the wave pool, enough water in the wave pool, that is, | 在波浪池,足够的水 在波浪池,即, |
| 1331 | before we can generate any waves or peaks in dopamine, | 在多巴胺产生波或峰之前 |
| 1332 | let alone troughs and the rest. | 更别提槽和其余的了 |
| 1333 | So how do we achieve a healthy baseline level of dopamine? | 那么我们如何实现多巴胺的健康基线水平? |
| 1334 | Well, there we can really look | 好了,我们真的可以看看 |
| 1335 | to some foundational practices, | 一些基本做法, |
| 1336 | practices that perhaps you've heard about | 你也许听说过 |
| 1337 | on this podcast before, | 在播客之前, |
| 1338 | and that to some of you might seem a little mundane, | 而对于你们当中有些人来说, 可能会有点失常, |
| 1339 | although some of them are a bit more sophisticated, | 虽然其中一些更精密一些, |
| 1340 | maybe even esoteric. | 可能甚至有感觉 |
| 1341 | The good news is that we can all control these things | 好消息是我们可以控制这些东西 |
| 1342 | and they don't require purchasing anything, | 他们不需要买任何东西, |
| 1343 | but they do require some degree | 但他们确实需要某种程度 |
| 1344 | of regular upkeep and effort. | 经常保养和努力 |
| 1345 | Those things include what I call the very basics. | 那些东西包括我称之为基本的东西。 |
| 1346 | Now, the very basics put in the context | 现在,最基本的情况是 |
| 1347 | of today's discussion are the things | 今天讨论的内容 |
| 1348 | that put water in the wave pool. | 把水放进波浪池 |
| 1349 | Those are going to be getting sufficient amounts | 足够了 |
| 1350 | of quality sleep each night, | 每天晚上都睡着 |
| 1351 | something that we've done several episodes on | 我们拍过几集 |
| 1352 | and have online toolkits for, | 并有在线工具包用于, |
| 1353 | so you can see the master your sleep episode, | 这样你就能看见主人 你的睡眠插曲, |
| 1354 | the perfect your sleep episode, | 完美的睡眠剧集, |
| 1355 | the light and health episode. | 灯光和健康片段。 |
| 1356 | If you want to skip all that | 如果你想跳过这一切 |
| 1357 | and just get right to the tools, | 直接拿起工具来 |
| 1358 | we have a sleep toolkit, | 我们有一个睡眠工具包, |
| 1359 | or it's actually called the toolkit for sleep | 或者它实际上叫做睡眠工具包 |
| 1360 | 您可以访问 hubermanlab.com, | |
| 1361 | completely zero cost. | 完全没有成本。 |
| 1362 | You just go there and download that toolkit. | 你只是去那里 下载工具包。 |
| 1363 | Getting sufficient sleep each night | 每天晚上都睡饱 |
| 1364 | literally restores your dopamine reserves. | 完全恢复你的多巴胺储备。 |
| 1365 | It allows dopamine to be present | 它可以让多巴胺存在 |
| 1366 | and for you to have a level of baseline dopamine | 让你拥有一定水平的多巴胺 |
| 1367 | that will allow you to even consider your goals | 你甚至可以考虑你的目标 |
| 1368 | in any kind of meaningful or reasonable way. | 以任何有意义或合理的方式。 |
| 1369 | Second, there are practices | 第二,有一些做法 |
| 1370 | that are supported by the scientific literature | 在科学文献的支持下 |
| 1371 | to increase your baseline level of dopamine | 提高多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 1372 | that are independent of sleep, | 与睡眠无关, |
| 1373 | but are similar to sleep. | 但和睡觉类似 |
| 1374 | And I like to refer to these as non-sleep deep rest. | 我想把这些说成是不睡觉的深眠。 |
| 1375 | This is not meditation. | 这不是冥想。 |
| 1376 | There's actually very little evidence | 其实证据很少 |
| 1377 | that meditation of the traditional kind | 传统的冥想 |
| 1378 | of sitting eyes closed, third eye sent, | 即闭着眼睛,第三只眼睛, |
| 1379 | focusing on your third eye center, | 专注于你的第三眼中心, |
| 1380 | which is this area behind your forehead. | 这是你额头后面的区域 |
| 1381 | There is very little evidence | 证据很少 |
| 1382 | that that increases levels of dopamine. | 增加多巴胺含量 |
| 1383 | There is a place for meditation | 有一个地方可以冥想 |
| 1384 | in the context of today's discussion, | 结合今天的讨论, |
| 1385 | but I'll repeat, meditation itself is a focusing exercise. | 但我要再说一遍, 冥想本身是一个集中的练习。 |
| 1386 | It is not known to increase dopamine. | 不知多巴胺会增加。 |
| 1387 | However, non-sleep deep rest, so-called NSDR, | 然而,不睡觉的深度休息, 所谓的NSDR, |
| 1388 | very similar, although different | 非常相似,虽然不同 |
| 1389 | to what's sometimes called yoga nidra, | 到有时被称为瑜伽尼陀罗, |
| 1390 | which is where you lie there. | 这就是你躺在那里。 |
| 1391 | You do a sort of body scan, some long exhale breathing. | 你做某种身体扫描, 一些长时间的呼气呼吸。 |
| 1392 | NSDR非常类似. | |
| 1393 | You can find a link to a zero cost NSDR on YouTube. | 您可以在YouTube上找到一个零成本NSDR的链接. |
| 1394 | It's a 10 minute long one. | 长一分. |
| 1395 | There are also 20 and 30 minute ones out there | 还有20分钟和30分钟 |
| 1396 | also on YouTube, but I'll provide a link | 也在YouTube上 但我会提供链接 |
| 1397 | to the 10 minute one. | 10分钟后 |
| 1398 | Those have been shown to increase the amount of dopamine | 事实证明这些药物会增加多巴胺的数量 |
| 1399 | in your dopamine reserves by up to 65%, | 在你的多巴胺储备中,最高65%, |
| 1400 | which is a remarkable number. | 这是一个显著的数字。 |
| 1401 | So quality sleep, non-sleep deep rest, AKA yoga nidra, | 因此,优质睡眠,不睡觉 深睡,AKA瑜伽尼德拉, |
| 1402 | very powerful ways to keep your baseline level | 保持基线水平的有力方法 |
| 1403 | of dopamine at a sufficient level. | 多巴胺含量足够大 |
| 1404 | In addition to that, nutrition no doubt plays a role | 除此之外,营养无疑也发挥了作用 |
| 1405 | in your baseline level of dopamine | 在多巴胺的基准水平中 |
| 1406 | because tyrosine, the amino acid, | 因为 ,氨基酸, |
| 1407 | is the rate limiting enzyme for the synthesis of dopamine. | 是限制多巴胺合成酶的速率。 |
| 1408 | Tyrosine is present in varying levels in different foods. | 不同食物中存在不同程度的泰罗辛. |
| 1409 | You can look those up online. | 你可以上网查 |
| 1410 | You just simply put in a search for tyrosine levels | 你只是把 搜索的太罗素水平 |
| 1411 | in different foods, everything from particular cheeses | 在不同的食物中,所有来自特定奶酪的东西 |
| 1412 | like Parmesan cheese has high levels of tyrosine, | 就像帕梅桑奶酪有很高的特罗素含量, |
| 1413 | certain meat, certain nuts, certain vegetables. | 某种肉类 某种坚果 某种蔬菜 |
| 1414 | Without getting into details and specifics, | 不谈细节和细节 |
| 1415 | you can find those there, but you need proper nutrition | 你可以在那里找到那些, 但你需要适当的营养 |
| 1416 | and therefore nutrients in particular tyrosine | 特别是ros素 |
| 1417 | in order to have sufficient levels of baseline dopamine. | 为了有足够的基准多巴胺水平。 |
| 1418 | The third thing on the list, and again, | 名单上的第三件事 再说一遍 |
| 1419 | these are things that we come back to almost every episode, | 这些东西,我们回到几乎每集, |
| 1420 | but I don't think they can be repeated enough | 但我不认为它们可以重复得足够多 |
| 1421 | because these are really things | 因为这些真的是东西 |
| 1422 | that we need to focus on every 24 hours. | 我们需要每24小时关注一次 |
| 1423 | You might be able to skip a day here or there | 你也许可以跳过这或那一天 |
| 1424 | if you get sick or you're traveling | 如果你生病了或者你正在旅行 |
| 1425 | or you have some major life event, | 或有重大的生活活动, |
| 1426 | but really every 24 hours, we need to re-up our sleep. | 但实际上每24小时, 我们需要恢复睡眠。 |
| 1427 | We need to re-up our nutrients. | 我们需要重新增加营养 |
| 1428 | Even if you're fasting, you're re-upping your nutrients | 就算是斋戒,也要补养 |
| 1429 | from stored sources within your body. | 从你体内储存的来源。 |
| 1430 | The third thing is sunlight, | 第三件事是阳光 |
| 1431 | morning sunlight in particular. | 特别是晨光 |
| 1432 | I've done extensive episodes about this. | 我做了很多关于这个的故事 |
| 1433 | Check out the episode on lighting your health | 看看这段关于点亮你身体的插曲 |
| 1434 | if you want all the details, | 如果你想要所有的细节, |
| 1435 | but you want to try and view sunlight | 但你想试试看阳光 |
| 1436 | as early in the day as possible. | 尽可能早一点 |
| 1437 | Five to 10 minutes on a clear day, minimum. | 每天5到10分钟,最少 |
| 1438 | 10 to 20 minutes on a cloudy day, minimum. | 最少10到20分钟的天气 |
| 1439 | 20 or 30 minutes on a very overcast day, minimum. | 20或30分钟的一天,最短。 |
| 1440 | Without sunglasses, don't stare at the sun. | 没有太阳镜 别盯着太阳看 |
| 1441 | Please don't damage your eyes. | 请勿伤眼. |
| 1442 | Look off, slightly off from the sun, | 向外看,略离太阳 |
| 1443 | but yes, you want to face eastward towards the sun. | 但是,是的,你想面对 向东朝向太阳。 |
| 1444 | And on those cloudy days, | 在那多云的日子里, |
| 1445 | that's especially important to do. | 这很重要 |
| 1446 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 1447 | Well, viewing morning sunlight increases cortisol | 嗯,看晨光会增加皮质醇 |
| 1448 | early in the day, which is excellent | 早年,这是很好的 |
| 1449 | because you want cortisol elevated early in the day | 因为你想早点升起皮质醇 |
| 1450 | and you want it lower later in the day. | 你想在一天晚些时候降低它。 |
| 1451 | And because of the relationship between the cells | 由于细胞之间的关系 |
| 1452 | in your eye that sense sunlight, | 在你的眼中,感觉阳光, |
| 1453 | specifically morning sunlight, | 特别是晨光, |
| 1454 | believe it or not, that happens, | 信不信由你 发生的事 |
| 1455 | and signal to your hypothalamus | 并指示你的下丘脑 |
| 1456 | and the relationship between the hypothalamus | 和丘脑之间的关系 |
| 1457 | and the pituitary and other endocrine organs, | 以及垂体和其他内分泌器官, |
| 1458 | it sets in motion a dopamine-related cascade | 启动多巴胺相关级联 |
| 1459 | in neuromodulators, dopamine, and hormones | 在神经调节器、多巴胺和激素中 |
| 1460 | that lead to states of wellbeing, elevated mood, | 导致幸福,情绪升高, |
| 1461 | alertness, et cetera, throughout the day. | 警告,等等, 整个白天。 |
| 1462 | It also helps your sleep at night, | 也帮助你晚上睡觉 |
| 1463 | but today we're talking about dopamine. | 但是今天我们谈论的是多巴胺 |
| 1464 | So yes, believe it or not, | 所以,是的,相信与否, |
| 1465 | that morning sunlight exposure does increase | 阳光照射会增加 |
| 1466 | your levels of dopamine, not just cortisol. | 你的多巴胺含量 不只是皮质醇 |
| 1467 | And fourth on the list is going to be movement, | 名单上的第四个是运动, |
| 1468 | exercise of varying kinds. | 各种运动。 |
| 1469 | Could be resistance training, | 可能是抵抗训练, |
| 1470 | could be cardiovascular training. | 可能是心血管训练 |
| 1471 | That does increase levels of dopamine. | 这的确增加了多巴胺的含量。 |
| 1472 | Here, we're not talking about achieving peaks in dopamine. | 在这里,我们不是在谈论实现多巴胺峰。 |
| 1473 | That could be accomplished through | 这可以通过下列途径实现: |
| 1474 | setting a personal record, a PR, | 建立个人记录,公关, |
| 1475 | or through sprints or heavy lifts, | 或通过短跑或重型电梯, |
| 1476 | or learning some new dynamic movement. | 或学习一些新的动态运动。 |
| 1477 | What we're really talking about here | 我们真正谈论的是什么 |
| 1478 | is getting into a regular exercise program | 正在进入一个常规的练习程序 |
| 1479 | of, if not every day, at least five days a week, | 如果不是每天,至少一周五天, |
| 1480 | a mixture of cardiovascular and resistance exercise. | 心血管和抗药性运动的混合体。 |
| 1481 | That, we also know, is known to, | 我们也知道,众所周知, |
| 1482 | elevate and maintain an elevated level of baseline dopamine. | 提高和保持高水平的基准多巴胺。 |
| 1483 | So it's not just about the euphoria you feel | 所以,它不只是关于 你感觉的喜悦 |
| 1484 | during or after exercise. | 在锻炼期间或之后。 |
| 1485 | It's also about the baseline level of dopamine | 还有多巴胺的基线水平 |
| 1486 | that's achieved through regular movement | 通过正常移动实现 |
| 1487 | and engaging in movement. | 并参与运动。 |
| 1488 | And if you're asking, how could that be? | 如果你问,怎么会这样? |
| 1489 | Well, you already know the answer. | 你已经知道答案了 |
| 1490 | The circuits in the brain and body that generate movement, | 大脑和身体中产生运动的电路, |
| 1491 | not just goal-seeking, but movement itself, | 不仅是寻找目标, 运动本身, |
| 1492 | as I mentioned earlier, that nigrostriatal pathway. | 正如我前面提到的, 尼格罗斯三角形路径。 |
| 1493 | And yes, that circuit is separate | 是的,电路是分开的 |
| 1494 | from the VTA nucleus accumbens to cortical circuit, | 从VTA核蓄积物到皮质电路, |
| 1495 | the mesocortical circuit | 中间电路 |
| 1496 | that we've mainly been focusing on today, but they interact. | 我们今天主要专注于, 但是它们相互作用。 |
| 1497 | And so by engaging in regular movement, | 因此,通过进行正常运动, |
| 1498 | you ensure that you're maintaining elevated levels | 你保证你保持高水平 |
| 1499 | of baseline dopamine, which is what you want | 基线多巴胺,这是你想要的 |
| 1500 | if you're going to be able to engage | 如果你能参与 |
| 1501 | in any kind of motivated pursuit behavior of any kind. | 任何一种动机的追逐行为 |
| 1502 | So those are the fundamentals that will set | 这些是必备的基础 |
| 1503 | the level of baseline dopamine in your system. | 系统中的多巴胺基线水平。 |
| 1504 | A couple of key points. | 几个要点. |
| 1505 | Yes, there is variation based on both genetics | 是的,两种基因都有变化 |
| 1506 | and circumstance in baseline levels of dopamine. | 多巴胺的基线水平。 |
| 1507 | If someone's going through a particular hard time, | 如果有人经历一个特别的艰难时期, |
| 1508 | or if somebody inherited a gene | 或者有人继承了基因 |
| 1509 | in the dopamine synthesis pathway, | 在多巴胺合成途径中, |
| 1510 | that simply affords them higher levels of baseline dopamine. | 只能让他们得到更高的度量多巴胺 |
| 1511 | We likely know these people, | 我们可能认识这些人, |
| 1512 | they seem hyper-motivated all the time, | 他们似乎一直有超强的动机, |
| 1513 | not just based on prior success. | 不仅仅是基于先前的成功。 |
| 1514 | They just seem to have a lot of energy | 他们似乎精力充沛 |
| 1515 | and a lot of go-drive. | 和很多去开车。 |
| 1516 | You talk about activation energy. | 你谈论激活能量。 |
| 1517 | Some of you may know what that term means, | 你们中有些人可能知道这个词的意思 |
| 1518 | others of you won't. | 其他人不会的 |
| 1519 | Having low activation energy is great. | 低激活能量是伟大的。 |
| 1520 | I mean, the amount of energy that it takes | 我是说,需要多少能量 |
| 1521 | to get into action to pursue adaptive | 行动起来追求适应性 |
| 1522 | and meaningful, healthy goals. | 以及有意义、健康的目标。 |
| 1523 | Some people just seem to have lower activation energy | 有些人似乎活性能量较低 |
| 1524 | and higher levels of dopamine | 多巴胺含量较高 |
| 1525 | are probably associated with that. | 可能和这件事有关 |
| 1526 | Some of us have lower levels of baseline dopamine. | 我们有些人的多巴胺基线水平较低。 |
| 1527 | Regardless, everyone needs to engage | 无论如何,每个人都需要参与 |
| 1528 | in the foundational things that I just mentioned | 在我刚才提到的基本事物中 |
| 1529 | a few moments ago, every 24 hours, or at least strive to. | 几分钟前,每24小时, 或至少努力。 |
| 1530 | There is no escaping that. | 这一点是无法逃避的。 |
| 1531 | I'd like to just take a brief moment | 我想花一点时间 |
| 1532 | and thank one of our podcast sponsors, | 感谢我们的播客赞助商之一, |
| 1533 | which is InsideTracker. | 这是内追踪器。 |
| 1534 | InsideTracker is a personalized nutrition platform | 内部追踪器是一个个性化的营养平台 |
| 1535 | that analyzes data from your blood and DNA | 分析血液和DNA中的数据 |
| 1536 | to help you better understand your body | 帮助你更好地理解你的身体 |
| 1537 | and help you reach your health goals. | 帮助你达到健康目标。 |
| 1538 | I've long been a believer in getting regular blood work done | 我早就相信会做正常的血液工作 |
| 1539 | for the simple reason that blood work is the only way | 原因很简单 血液工作是唯一的方法 |
| 1540 | that you can monitor the markers, such as hormone markers, | 你可以监视标记,例如激素标记, |
| 1541 | lipids, metabolic factors, et cetera, | 脂质,代谢因子等, |
| 1542 | that impact your immediate and long-term health. | 影响你的近期和长期健康。 |
| 1543 | One major challenge with blood work, however, | 不过,血液工作是一大挑战, |
| 1544 | is that most of the time, | 是大部分时间, |
| 1545 | it does not come back with any information | 它不会带回任何信息 |
| 1546 | about what to do in order to move the values | 如何移动值 |
| 1547 | for hormones, metabolic factors, lipids, et cetera, | 激素 代谢因子 脂质等 |
| 1548 | into the ranges that you want. | 进入您想要的范围。 |
| 1549 | With InsideTracker, changing those values | 有了内部跟踪器, 改变这些值 |
| 1550 | becomes very straightforward | 变得非常直接 |
| 1551 | because it has a personalized dashboard that you can use | 因为它有一个个性化的仪表板 你可以使用 |
| 1552 | to address the nutrition-based, behavior-based, | 解决基于营养和行为, |
| 1553 | supplement-based approaches that you can use | 可使用的基于补充的方法 |
| 1554 | in order to move those values into the ranges | 以将这些值移入区域 |
| 1555 | that are optimal for you, your vitality, | 这是你的最佳, 你的活力, |
| 1556 | and your longevity. | 还有你的长寿 |
| 1557 | InsideTracker now includes a measurement | 内部跟踪器现在包括测量 |
| 1558 | 所谓的APO-B | |
| 1559 | in their ultimate plan. | 在他们的最终计划。 |
| 1560 | APO-B is a key marker of cardiovascular health, | APO-B是心血管健康的关键标志, |
| 1561 | and therefore, there's extreme value | 因此,有 极端的价值 |
| 1562 | to knowing your APO-B levels. | 了解你的APO -B级别。 |
| 1563 | If you'd like to try InsideTracker, | 如果你想试试内幕追踪器 |
| 1564 | 你可以去内部tracker.com slash huperman(英语: | |
| 1565 | to get 20% off any of InsideTracker's plans. | 百分之二十的内线追踪计划 |
| 1566 | Again, that's insidetracker.com slash huberman | 再说一遍,这是内幕追踪器.com 斜拉杆手 |
| 1567 | to get 20% off. | 得到20%的关机。 |
| 1568 | Now, there are things that can increase one's | 现在,有些东西可以增加一个人的 |
| 1569 | baseline level of dopamine further, | 进一步多巴胺的基准水平, |
| 1570 | and some of those get us into the realm | 和其中一些 带我们进入世界 |
| 1571 | of supplements and prescription drugs, | 补充药物和处方药, |
| 1572 | but for now, I just want to mention a few of them | 不过现在,我只想说几句话 |
| 1573 | that are purely behavioral in nature, are zero cost, | 这是纯粹的行为性质, 零成本, |
| 1574 | and that have been shown in the research literature | 以及研究文献中显示的 |
| 1575 | to increase baseline levels of dopamine | 提高多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 1576 | for long periods of time, and this is important | 时间很长 这一点很重要 |
| 1577 | because if any of you are out there listening | 因为如果你们中有谁在听 |
| 1578 | to this thing about peaks and troughs and baselines, | 关于山峰、山沟、基线, |
| 1579 | you might be asking, wait, what's the difference | 你可能问,等等,有什么区别 |
| 1580 | between a baseline and a peak, really? | 在基线和高峰之间,真的吗? |
| 1581 | Because if, for instance, you get a big peak, | 因为,比如说,如果你得到一个大峰, |
| 1582 | well, that's a peak in the baseline, | 嗯,这是一个高峰 在基线, |
| 1583 | so how do you distinguish between peak and baseline? | 你们如何区分峰值和基线? |
| 1584 | Well, there's a trough, and let's say that trough | 嗯,有一个槽,让我们说,槽 |
| 1585 | lasts an hour, is that hour-long trough your baseline? | 持续一个小时, 那是一个小时的轮廓 通过你的基线? |
| 1586 | Or where's your set point? | 或者你的定点在哪里? |
| 1587 | How do you establish your set point? | 你怎么确定你的设定点? |
| 1588 | And more importantly, how do you raise your set point? | 更重要的是,如何提高你的定点? |
| 1589 | Well, if you're not already asking that question, | 如果你还没有问这个问题 |
| 1590 | I just asked it for you. | 我只是问你。 |
| 1591 | I define an increase in your baseline level in dopamine | 我定义了多巴胺的基线水平提高 |
| 1592 | to be anything that increases dopamine | 成为任何增加多巴胺的东西 |
| 1593 | for more than one hour. | 一个多小时 |
| 1594 | When we think about cocaine, amphetamine, pornography, | 当我们想到可卡因 苯丙胺 色情制品 |
| 1595 | sex, caffeine, things of that sort, | 性 咖啡因之类的东西 |
| 1596 | regardless of how long one engages | 无论一个人参与多久 |
| 1597 | in a bout of those behaviors or substances, | 在那些行为或物质中, |
| 1598 | the increases in dopamine are going to be | 多巴胺的增量将会增加 |
| 1599 | relatively short-lived on the order of minutes to an hour, | 相对短暂的寿命 大约几分钟到一小时, |
| 1600 | sometimes longer. | 有时更长。 |
| 1601 | Now, I didn't say that's how long you're engaging | 我可没说你们要交往多久 |
| 1602 | in the behaviors, I said that's how long those increases | 在行为,我说,这是多久 这些增加 |
| 1603 | in dopamine are going to occur, | 在多巴胺会发生, |
| 1604 | even if you were to continually engage in those behaviors. | 即使你继续做那些事 |
| 1605 | And remember, with continual engagement | 记住,不断的交往 |
| 1606 | in a dopamine spiking behavior, | 在多巴胺的尖端行为, |
| 1607 | behavior that increases dopamine peaks, | 行为增加多巴胺峰, |
| 1608 | the height of those peaks, remember, | 那些山峰的高度,你当记念, |
| 1609 | gets lower and lower and lower, | 越来越低,越来越低 |
| 1610 | especially in a short amount of time | 特别是在短时间内 |
| 1611 | and then drops below baseline. | 然后下降到基线以下。 |
| 1612 | There are tools and techniques that you can use | 有些工具和技术可以使用 |
| 1613 | to elevate your baseline level of dopamine | 以提升多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 1614 | for long periods of time. | 长时期。 |
| 1615 | And here again, this is done in addition to the basic tools | 再说一遍,这是除了基本工具之外 |
| 1616 | that I mentioned a few moments ago. | 我刚才提到的。 |
| 1617 | The simplest one for which there are excellent data, | 最简单的一个 有出色的数据, |
| 1618 | and here I'm referring to data published | 这里我指的是公布的数据 |
| 1619 | in the European Journal of Physiology, | 在欧洲生理学杂志上, |
| 1620 | I'll provide a link to this, | 我会提供这个链接, |
| 1621 | is that exposure of your body up to the neck to cold water, | 你的身体被冷水照射到脖子上 |
| 1622 | and it doesn't have to be super cold, by the way, | 顺便说一句,它不必是超级冷的, |
| 1623 | to cold water has been shown to increase baseline levels | 已表明,冷水增加了基线水平。 |
| 1624 | of dopamine and the other so-called catecholamines, | 多巴胺和其他所谓的丙胺, |
| 1625 | which include norepinephrine and epinephrine, | 包括肾上腺素和肾上腺素, |
| 1626 | but for sake of today's discussion, | 但为了今天的讨论, |
| 1627 | dopamine in particular for not just one, | 多巴胺尤其不止一种 |
| 1628 | but at least two and probably as long as four or five hours. | 但至少两小时,大概四五个小时 |
| 1629 | There've been some additional scientific studies | 还有其他一些科学研究 |
| 1630 | after the paper I just mentioned, | 我刚刚提到的那篇论文之后 |
| 1631 | and it's really remarkable. | 这真的很了不起。 |
| 1632 | You can accomplish this a number of different ways. | 你可以以不同的方式完成这个任务。 |
| 1633 | You could get into a cold shower in the morning, | 你可以在早上冲个冷水澡 |
| 1634 | and I do recommend doing this in the morning. | 我建议明早再做 |
| 1635 | And in that case, it's okay to get the water on your head. | 这样的话,可以把水放在头上 |
| 1636 | In fact, I recommend it. | 事实上,我推荐 |
| 1637 | You could get into an ice bath. | 你可以进入冰浴。 |
| 1638 | You could get into a cold plunge. | 你可能会陷入一个寒冷的陷阱。 |
| 1639 | In these circumstances, I'm not suggesting this | 在这种情况下,我不建议这样 |
| 1640 | for sake of increasing metabolism or fat loss. | 为了增加新陈代谢或脂肪损失。 |
| 1641 | The whole discussion around deliberate cold | 整个讨论 关于故意冷 |
| 1642 | and metabolism and fat loss | 以及新陈代谢和脂肪损失 |
| 1643 | has become a little bit controversial. | 已经变得有点争议。 |
| 1644 | We won't go there now, | 我们现在不去那里 |
| 1645 | mostly because we're focused on the clear ability | 大部分是因为我们专注于清晰的能力 |
| 1646 | of deliberate cold exposure to increase dopamine | 故意接触多巴胺 |
| 1647 | for long periods of time, AKA your dopamine baseline. | 长期,AKA 你的多巴胺基线。 |
| 1648 | The ways to do this vary depending on the temperature. | 这样做的方式因温度不同而不同. |
| 1649 | So for instance, there are data pointing to the fact | 例如,有数据表明 |
| 1650 | that if you want to get a long lasting increase | 如果你想要长期增加 |
| 1651 | in your baseline dopamine, | 在你的基线多巴胺, |
| 1652 | you could take a very cold shower or cold plunge | 你可以洗个很冷的澡 或冷的跌倒 |
| 1653 | or ice bath for a very brief period of time, | 或冰浴 非常短暂的时间, |
| 1654 | anywhere from 30 seconds to two minutes, | 从30秒到2分钟, |
| 1655 | maybe three minutes, | 也许三分钟 |
| 1656 | but probably 30 seconds to two minutes. | 但大概30秒到2分钟 |
| 1657 | Now you might ask, what is very cold? | 现在你可以问,什么是非常冷? |
| 1658 | Here I have to be careful | 我一定要小心点 |
| 1659 | because I don't want to recommend anything | 因为我不想推荐任何东西 |
| 1660 | that's going to cause anyone to have a heart attack | 这会让任何人心脏病发作 |
| 1661 | or going to shock or anything of that sort. | 或会震惊 或者任何类似的东西。 |
| 1662 | It's going to vary by person | 会因人而异 |
| 1663 | depending on your level of cold tolerance. | 取决于你耐寒的程度 |
| 1664 | What I recommend is if you are going | 我的建议是,如果你要去 |
| 1665 | for the short exposure, long dopamine release approach, | 对于短暂接触,长度多巴胺释放方法, |
| 1666 | that is 30 seconds to two minutes, | 这是30秒到2分钟, |
| 1667 | that you start warmer than you think you need to, | 你开始的温暖 比你想的需要, |
| 1668 | and then you ease into it over a few days. | 几天后你就会放松下来 |
| 1669 | But we're really talking about ranges in temperature | 但我们说的是温度的幅度 |
| 1670 | from anywhere from about 37 degrees Fahrenheit | 华氏37度左右 |
| 1671 | to about 55 degrees Fahrenheit. | 华氏55度左右 |
| 1672 | Again, be careful, approach it with caution | 再小心一点,小心一点 |
| 1673 | and ease into it. | 并进入其中, |
| 1674 | I do recommend doing this early in the day, | 我建议早点这么做 |
| 1675 | and I should mention not after strength | 我不应该说在实力之后 |
| 1676 | or hypertrophy training | 或超营养训练 |
| 1677 | because within the six hours | 因为在这六小时内 |
| 1678 | after strength or hypertrophy training, | 经过体力训练或超营养训练 |
| 1679 | this deliberate cold exposure, | 这种故意的冷暴露, |
| 1680 | especially immersion up to the neck, | 特别是浸透在脖子上, |
| 1681 | can suppress the strength and hypertrophy adaptation | 可以抑制强度和超营养适应 |
| 1682 | that the training is designed to accomplish. | 训练是用来完成的 |
| 1683 | So that's one approach. | 所以,这是一个方法。 |
| 1684 | The other approach that's supported by the literature | 另一种得到文献支持的方法 |
| 1685 | to increase baseline levels of dopamine | 提高多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 1686 | for very long periods of time. | 在很长一段时间。 |
| 1687 | In fact, this is the original approach, | 事实上,这是最初的方法, |
| 1688 | is to get into warmer water. | 要进入更温暖的水。 |
| 1689 | So not warm, but warmer. | 所以不是温暖,而是温暖。 |
| 1690 | So 60 degree Fahrenheit water up to the neck | 所以华氏60度的水 直达脖子 |
| 1691 | and to stay there for about 45 to 60 minutes. | 在那里呆45到60分钟 |
| 1692 | The reason I don't think most people will do that | 我觉得大多数人不会这么做的原因 |
| 1693 | or that most people would prefer | 或者大多数人更喜欢 |
| 1694 | a shorter colder exposure protocol | 更短的冷暴露协议 |
| 1695 | is that most people don't have 45 to 60 minutes each morning | 大部分人每天早上没有45到60分钟 |
| 1696 | to get into water and sit there. | 进入水里坐在那里。 |
| 1697 | And in that study, | 在那个研究中, |
| 1698 | they actually had them sitting in lawn chairs basically | 他们实际上让他们坐在草椅上 |
| 1699 | in the shallow end of a pool up to their neck | 在水池的浅端,直到他们的脖子 |
| 1700 | for a full 60 minutes | 整整60分钟 |
| 1701 | and then measuring dopamine release and so forth. | 然后测量多巴胺的释放等。 |
| 1702 | So there are a bunch of different ways to do this. | 所以,有很多不同的方法可以做到这一点。 |
| 1703 | I should emphasize, | 我应强调, |
| 1704 | I don't think you need to be super precise | 我不觉得你需要非常精确 |
| 1705 | about the temperature and even the duration. | 关于温度,甚至持续时间。 |
| 1706 | What I recommend is find a temperature | 我的建议是找到温度 |
| 1707 | that's uncomfortably cold to you, | 这对你来说很冷 |
| 1708 | meaning that you feel agitated and you want to get out, | 意思是,你感到焦躁 并且你想离开, |
| 1709 | but that you're confident you can safely stay in. | 但你有信心能安全地留在这 |
| 1710 | And again, I can't give a simple prescriptive to everybody, | 再说一次,我不能给每个人一个简单的指令, |
| 1711 | but this is known to increase baseline levels of dopamine, | 但已知这可以提高多巴胺的基准水平, |
| 1712 | significantly, in fact, double them or more | 很明显,事实上,双倍或更多 |
| 1713 | for long periods of time, meaning hours up to four, | 长时间,意思是四小时以下 |
| 1714 | maybe even six hours into the day, | 也许甚至六小时后的一天, |
| 1715 | which is one of the reasons I suggest doing this | 这是我建议这么做的原因之一 |
| 1716 | early in the day. | 早年时. |
| 1717 | I happen to get into a cold plunge or take a cold shower | 我碰巧遇到冷水或冷水 |
| 1718 | first thing in the morning. | 明天一早开始 |
| 1719 | I do go outside and get my sunlight first sometimes. | 我有时会先出去取日光 |
| 1720 | Sometimes I do the cold first. | 有时我先做冷。 |
| 1721 | It really depends on my circumstances | 这真的取决于我的情况 |
| 1722 | and how I'm feeling that day. | 以及那天我的感觉 |
| 1723 | I don't think it really matters which one you do first, | 我并不认为你先做哪个很重要 |
| 1724 | but you want to try and get both of those in | 但你想试着让两个都进来 |
| 1725 | early in the day | 早点 |
| 1726 | because you really want the catecholamines and cortisol | 因为你真的想要 丙烯胺和皮质醇 |
| 1727 | elevated early in the day. | 早年升学。 |
| 1728 | So that's deliberate cold exposure. | 所以这是故意的冷暴露。 |
| 1729 | We already talked about exercise. | 我们已经谈过锻炼。 |
| 1730 | So if you're doing your exercise early in the day, | 所以如果你很早就在练习 |
| 1731 | there's no reason why it couldn't be done | 没有理由不能做到这一点 |
| 1732 | in concert with this deliberate cold exposure. | 与这种蓄意的冷暴露相配合。 |
| 1733 | I recommend doing the deliberate cold exposure first | 我建议你先故意冷暴露 |
| 1734 | for the reasons we talked about a few minutes ago. | 我们几分钟前讨论过的原因 |
| 1735 | And then of course there are compounds, | 当然还有化合物 |
| 1736 | both prescription and over-the-counter compounds | 处方和场外化合物 |
| 1737 | that can indeed raise your baseline levels of dopamine | 它可以提高你的多巴胺基准量 |
| 1738 | for an hour or more. | 一小时或更长时间 |
| 1739 | And when I say an hour or more, | 当我说一个小时或更多时, |
| 1740 | it really depends on individual variation | 这真的取决于个体的变异 |
| 1741 | in terms of how quickly you metabolize dopamine. | 从多巴胺的代谢速度来看 |
| 1742 | And it depends on individual variation | 这取决于个体的变化 |
| 1743 | in how you manage or tolerate different dosages of drugs | 如何管理或容忍不同剂量的毒品 |
| 1744 | and different types of drugs. | 和不同类型的毒品。 |
| 1745 | So the typical drugs, | 所以典型的药物, |
| 1746 | and here I'm talking about legal prescription drugs | 我说的是合法处方药 |
| 1747 | for increasing dopamine are things like Ritalin, Adderall. | 增加多巴胺是利他林 阿德雷尔之类的东西 |
| 1748 | Modafinil和Armodafinil也利用该系统。 | |
| 1749 | And I did an entire episode about ADHD, | 我做了一整集关于ADHD, |
| 1750 | which is the typical context in which you hear | 这是你听到的典型语境 |
| 1751 | about these prescription drugs. | 关于这些处方药。 |
| 1752 | But assuming it's prescribed by a doctor | 但假设是医生开的 |
| 1753 | for either clinical reasons like ADHD or for other reasons, | 或出于临床原因,如ADHD或其他原因, |
| 1754 | all of those compounds do significantly increase | 所有这些化合物都明显增加 |
| 1755 | baseline levels of dopamine for many, many hours. | 多巴胺的基准水平 持续许多小时。 |
| 1756 | That's absolutely clear and it's one of the major reasons | 这绝对清楚,这是主要原因之一 |
| 1757 | why those drugs are so effective | 为什么这些药物如此有效 |
| 1758 | in increasing motivation and attention. | 增加动力和注意力。 |
| 1759 | Then there are compounds that are sold over-the-counter, | 还有一些化合物被卖出场外, |
| 1760 | things like amino acids, such as L-tyrosine itself. | 诸如氨基酸之类的东西,如L-tyrosine本身. |
| 1761 | That's a very commonly sold and used amino acid. | 这是一个非常常用的销售和使用氨基酸. |
| 1762 | It's present in a lot of so-called pre-workout formulas. | 现于许多所谓前修行法中. |
| 1763 | I, as many of you know, | 我,你们很多人都知道, |
| 1764 | am a fan of single ingredient supplements | 是单一成分补充剂的粉丝 |
| 1765 | for the most part, | 大多数时候, |
| 1766 | aside from foundational supplements like AG1, | 除AG1等基础补充剂外, |
| 1767 | which give you many, many micronutrients kind of all together | 它给你很多,很多微量营养素 类的在一起 |
| 1768 | because it would be nearly impossible | 因为那几乎是不可能的 |
| 1769 | to consume each of those as individual ingredients | 将每种物质作为个别成分消费 |
| 1770 | and get the right amounts, et cetera. | 并获得正确的金额,等等。 |
| 1771 | But for all other supplements, | 但对于所有其他的副刊, |
| 1772 | I'm a big believer in parsing what you need | 我非常相信解析你需要的东西 |
| 1773 | and what's most effective for you | 和什么对你最有效的 |
| 1774 | in single ingredient formulations. | 单成分配方。 |
| 1775 | And the typical ways in which people work | 以及人们的典型工作方式 |
| 1776 | to elevate their baseline levels of dopamine | 提高多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 1777 | 辅料是使用L-tyrosine, | |
| 1778 | which, as I mentioned earlier, | 正如我刚才提到的, |
| 1779 | is the rate-limiting enzyme for dopamine, | 是多巴胺的限速酶, |
| 1780 | 或者通过使用所谓的macunapurines, | |
| 1781 | which is actually very similar to L-dopa, | 这其实和L -dopa非常相似, |
| 1782 | which is the treatment for Parkinson's. | 这是帕金森的治疗方法 |
| 1783 | Macunapurines actually comes from the velvety outside coating | 麦克纳普林其实来自外涂层的天鹅绒 |
| 1784 | of a certain bean. | 一定的豆类。 |
| 1785 | I know it sounds really esoteric, | 我知道这听起来很不可思议 |
| 1786 | but that's actually where it's found in nature | 但事实上,这是在大自然中发现的 |
| 1787 | and is really 99% L-dopa. | 而且真的是99%的L -dopa。 |
| 1788 | And I confess, having tried macunapurines, | 我承认,尝试过马可那普林斯, |
| 1789 | having examined the scientific literature | 研究科学文献 |
| 1790 | on macunapurines, there is some evidence | 有证据表明, |
| 1791 | that it can increase dopamine, | 它可以增加多巴胺, |
| 1792 | especially in that tuberinfradibular pathway, | 特别是在那个管状辐射路径, |
| 1793 | because it can tap into some | 因为它可以利用一些 |
| 1794 | of the hormone-related functions of the pituitary. | 与垂体激素有关的功能。 |
| 1795 | It does increase alertness and mood. | 它确实增加了警惕性和情绪。 |
| 1796 | It might even increase libido, motivation, et cetera. | 甚至可能增加性欲,动机等. |
| 1797 | But the effects of macunapurines tend to be very much | 但马库纳普林斯的影响很大 |
| 1798 | of the increasing the peak in dopamine, | 多巴胺的峰值上升, |
| 1799 | and then very quickly dropping that peak. | 然后非常快地降下峰顶。 |
| 1800 | In other words, the peak trough phenomenon, | 换句话说,顶峰槽现象, |
| 1801 | not for increasing baseline levels of dopamine. | 不是为了提高多巴胺的基准水平。 |
| 1802 | Now, it's likely different for people with Parkinson's | 帕金森症患者可能不一样 |
| 1803 | who are taking prescription drugs | 服用处方药的人 |
| 1804 | that are similar to macunapurines. | 类似马可那普林斯。 |
| 1805 | So if people have Parkinson's, | 所以如果人们有帕金森的, |
| 1806 | oftentimes they are prescribed things like L-dopa, | 经常是L -dopa这样的处方 |
| 1807 | which is in the pathway to dopamine synthesis, | 在多巴胺合成过程中, |
| 1808 | or they are prescribed things like bromocryptine, | 或如溴丙烯, |
| 1809 | which will indeed increase dopamine. | 这会增加多巴胺 |
| 1810 | And I do realize that some people use | 我意识到有些人使用 |
| 1811 | those prescription drugs recreationally, | 那些处方药 休闲, |
| 1812 | which I don't recommend. | 我不建议你这么做 |
| 1813 | Those drugs can be used | 这些药物可以使用 |
| 1814 | to increase baseline levels of dopamine, | 提高多巴胺的基准水平, |
| 1815 | but more typically they cause peaks in dopamine | 但更常见的是它们造成多巴胺的峰值 |
| 1816 | and troughs in dopamine, | 和多巴胺的槽, |
| 1817 | which is why I do not recommend them. | 这就是为什么我不推荐他们。 |
| 1818 | They are not going to allow you to accomplish | 他们不会让你完成的 |
| 1819 | what you want if your goal is more motivation, et cetera. | 如果你的目标是更多动力,你想要什么,等等。 |
| 1820 | In fact, they are likely to do the opposite, | 事实上,他们很可能采取相反的做法, |
| 1821 | give you a big peak in alertness, | 以警示你们, |
| 1822 | and then a crash that can include depressive symptoms | 然后发生包括抑郁症状的崩溃 |
| 1823 | and just not feeling very good. | 感觉不太好 |
| 1824 | L-tyrosine, however, has been examined | 但是,L-ty氨酸已被检查过 |
| 1825 | in the scientific literature, | 在科学文献中, |
| 1826 | and at reasonably low dosages has been shown | 并且剂量相当低 |
| 1827 | to increase circulating and available levels of dopamine, | 增加多巴胺的流通量和可用量, |
| 1828 | both in the brain and body, | 在大脑和身体, |
| 1829 | and lead to increased cognitive performance, | 并导致认知性能提高, |
| 1830 | and in some cases, physical output. | 在某些情况下,物理输出。 |
| 1831 | I'll provide links to a few of these studies, | 我会提供一些链接 这些研究, |
| 1832 | but the two that I really parsed most finally | 但两个 我真正解析 最终于 |
| 1833 | for sake of this episode, | 为了这集, |
| 1834 | 真的只是专注于服用L -Tyrosine | |
| 1835 | under conditions where your baseline levels of dopamine | 在多巴胺的基准水平下 |
| 1836 | are reduced due to stress | 由于压力而减少 |
| 1837 | and under conditions where there's no stress | 在没有压力的情况下 |
| 1838 | and people are trying to increase their baseline levels | 并且人们正在努力提高基线水平 |
| 1839 | of dopamine for sake of improving cognitive function. | 多巴胺是为了提高认知功能 |
| 1840 | The first paper is entitled Effective Tyrosine | 第一篇论文题为“有效的泰罗辛” |
| 1841 | on Cognitive Function and Blood Pressure Under Stress. | 认知功能和压力下的血压 |
| 1842 | I'll provide a link to this in the show note captions, | 我会在节目字幕中提供链接 |
| 1843 | and it's one of many papers, really, | 这是很多文件之一,真的, |
| 1844 | dating back to the early 90s, | 追溯到90年代早期 |
| 1845 | exploring how relatively high, frankly, | 探讨如何相对高,坦率地说, |
| 1846 | relatively high dosages of L-tyrosine | 相对高剂量的L-ty |
| 1847 | taken under conditions of stress | 在压力条件下实施 |
| 1848 | allow people to rescue some of their cognitive function | 允许人们挽救自己的认知功能 |
| 1849 | in terms of working memory tasks | 在工作记忆任务方面 |
| 1850 | and other kinds of cognitive tasks, | 和其他类型的认知任务, |
| 1851 | visual pursuit tasks, and so on. | 视觉追求任务等. |
| 1852 | The second paper is entitled Tyrosine Improves | 第二篇题为《泰罗辛改良》 |
| 1853 | Working Memory in a Multitasking Environment, | 在多任务环境中工作记忆, |
| 1854 | and the second paper is perhaps more interesting | 第二篇也许更有趣 |
| 1855 | because it involves exploring | 因为它涉及探索 |
| 1856 | the use of tyrosine supplementation, | 使用ty辅, |
| 1857 | basically taking tyrosine about an hour | 基本上要用一个小时 |
| 1858 | before a cognitive task or set of cognitive tasks | 在认知任务或一组认知任务之前 |
| 1859 | that involve a lot of multitasking and working memory. | 这涉及到很多多任务和工作记忆。 |
| 1860 | Working memory, for those of you that don't know, | 工作记忆, 对于你们这些不知道, |
| 1861 | is your ability to maintain small batches of information | 是您保存小批量信息的能力 |
| 1862 | in your mind for relatively short periods of time. | 在你的大脑中 相对较短的时间。 |
| 1863 | So, for instance, if I tell you my phone number | 举例来说,如果我告诉你我的电话号码 |
| 1864 | or the phone number where I grew up, 493-2931, | 或者我成长的电话号码 493 -2931 |
| 1865 | if you can remember that, | 如果你能记住, |
| 1866 | chances are you'll remember it for 30 seconds, 60 seconds, | 你可能记得它30秒60秒 |
| 1867 | but that you won't remember it tomorrow | 但你明天就不记得了 |
| 1868 | because there's really no reason to. | 因为真的没有任何理由。 |
| 1869 | A lot of the tasks that we do throughout the day | 我们整天做很多工作 |
| 1870 | involve working memory, | 涉及工作记忆, |
| 1871 | and working memory is very subject to interference | 工作记忆受到干扰 |
| 1872 | from other tasks that we happen to be doing, | 从其他任务 我们碰巧正在做, |
| 1873 | like looking at our phone or having a conversation | 比如看我们的电话或者聊天 |
| 1874 | or trying to navigate through a city. | 或试图通过城市。 |
| 1875 | It involves a lot of attention, | 这涉及到很多关注, |
| 1876 | and this study shows that tyrosine improves working memory, | 这份研究显示 特罗素能改善工作记忆 |
| 1877 | especially in the context of multitasking | 特别是在多重任务方面 |
| 1878 | and having a lot of conflicting goals. | 并且有很多相互冲突的目标 |
| 1879 | And they did a number of really nice experiments here. | 他们在这里做了一些非常好的实验。 |
| 1880 | Again, it's a small study, not that many subjects, | 再说一次,这是个小研究,不是很多课题 |
| 1881 | but it's one of several papers. | 但它是几份论文之一。 |
| 1882 | In fact, this is the paper that kind of set in motion, | 事实上,这是 那种启动的论文, |
| 1883 | the domino of other papers, | 其他文件的多米诺, |
| 1884 | exploring the efficacy of L-tyrosine | 探索L-ty的功效 |
| 1885 | for cognitive performance. | 为认知表现。 |
| 1886 | And they looked at working memory tasks, of course, | 他们研究工作记忆任务,当然, |
| 1887 | but also auditory visual tasks, | 也执行视觉任务, |
| 1888 | and they involve some interference of visual cues | 它们涉及一些视觉提示的干扰 |
| 1889 | and things of that sort, | 之类的东西, |
| 1890 | and they saw some really interesting effects. | 他们看到了一些非常有趣的效果。 |
| 1891 | Basically, when we need to attend to multiple things | 基本上,当我们需要处理很多事情 |
| 1892 | at the same time, L-tyrosine can help us do that, | 同时,L -tyrosine可以帮助我们做到这一点, |
| 1893 | at least as it relates to memory. | 至少和记忆有关 |
| 1894 | 当我说L -tyrosine,我的意思是 | |
| 1895 | is having your baseline levels of dopamine elevated | 让你的多巴胺基线水平升高 |
| 1896 | can really help navigate multitasking environments, | 能够真正帮助导航多任务环境, |
| 1897 | especially as it relates to working memory, | 特别是因为它涉及到工作记忆, |
| 1898 | and this is true under conditions of stress | 这在压力条件下是真实的 |
| 1899 | and under your conditions of not stressful, okay? | 在你没有压力的条件下,好吗? |
| 1900 | You might say, well, isn't multitasking stressful itself? | 你可能会说,嗯,多任务 压力本身? |
| 1901 | Yes, it can be, but when we talk about | 是的,可以,但当我们谈论 |
| 1902 | under conditions of stress, | 在压力条件下, |
| 1903 | we're talking about people who are sleep deprived, | 我们谈论的人 谁睡眠不足, |
| 1904 | we're talking about people that are under | 我们谈论的是那些在 |
| 1905 | other kinds of psychological or physical stress, | 其他类型的心理或身体压力, |
| 1906 | L-tyrosine can help in that context as well. | 在这种背景下,L-tyrosine也可以有所帮助。 |
| 1907 | So as I mentioned before, in these studies, | 所以,正如我之前提到,在这些研究中, |
| 1908 | they use very high dosages of L-tyrosine, | 他们使用非常高的L-tyrosine剂量, |
| 1909 | so high that actually I don't recommend them. | 这么高,实际上我不推荐他们。 |
| 1910 | They did measure stress hormones, | 他们确实测量了压力激素 |
| 1911 | they did measure blood pressure and things of that sort, | 他们确实测量了血压和类似的东西, |
| 1912 | but I want to caution you, I do not recommend, | 但我想提醒你 我不建议 |
| 1913 | we'll say it again, I do not recommend | 我们再说一遍,我不推荐 |
| 1914 | following the dosages that were used in these two studies | 根据这两个研究中使用的剂量 |
| 1915 | because they are exceedingly high. | 因为他们是高的。 |
| 1916 | They used 100 milligrams per kilogram of body weight | 每公斤体重用100毫克 |
| 1917 | of tyrosine one hour prior to these cognitive tasks. | 在完成这些认知任务前一个小时 |
| 1918 | Now, I weigh about 220 pounds, | 现在,我体重约220磅, |
| 1919 | I'm a little bit lighter than that, | 我比这轻一点, |
| 1920 | so that's 100 kilograms approximately. | 大约100公斤 |
| 1921 | Translated from this study, that would mean | 转自本研究报告,这意味着 |
| 1922 | that had I participated in the study | 我曾经参与研究 |
| 1923 | and I wasn't in the placebo group, | 我没有在安慰剂组, |
| 1924 | 但我当时是L -tyrosine集团的, | |
| 1925 | I would have been given 10,000 milligrams of L-tyrosine, | 我本来会得到一万毫克的L -tyrosine, |
| 1926 | which is 10 grams of L-tyrosine, I do not recommend that. | 我建议不要这样 |
| 1927 | In fact, there are papers showing that | 事实上,有文件显示, |
| 1928 | as little as 500 milligrams, | 小到500毫克, |
| 1929 | but perhaps up to one gram, that is a thousand milligrams, | 但也许一克,即一千毫克, |
| 1930 | or 1,500 milligrams, a gram and a half of L-tyrosine | 或1500毫克,一克半的L-ty |
| 1931 | taken 30 to 60 minutes before a cognitive or physical task | 在认知或身体任务前30至60分钟 |
| 1932 | can increase baseline levels of dopamine | 能够提高多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 1933 | for extended periods of time, | 长期, |
| 1934 | and thereby improve performance | 从而改进业绩 |
| 1935 | on those mental or physical tasks. | 完成那些身心任务 |
| 1936 | So if you are somebody who's interested | 如果你是有兴趣的人 |
| 1937 | 在尝试L-tyrosine, 请知道增加 | |
| 1938 | in baseline levels of dopamine can be substantial. | 多巴胺的基线水平可能相当大。 |
| 1939 | They are long lasting, which qualifies them | 它们是长久的, 这符合他们的条件 |
| 1940 | as baseline increases as opposed to peaks. | 与峰值相比,基线增加。 |
| 1941 | And I would say you should also start | 而且我会说,你也应该开始 |
| 1942 | with the lowest possible dose. | 尽可能低的剂量。 |
| 1943 | So for most people, 250 to 500 milligrams | 对大多数人来说,250至500毫克 |
| 1944 | is going to be a reasonable starting dose, | 这将是一个合理的开始剂量, |
| 1945 | depending on your body weight, | 根据你的体重, |
| 1946 | smaller people start with 250, larger, maybe 500. | 较小的人从250人开始, 更大的,也许500人。 |
| 1947 | Keep an eye on whether or not you're combining it | 注意看你们是否结合 |
| 1948 | with caffeine or with any other stimulants. | 咖啡因或任何其他兴奋剂。 |
| 1949 | And keep in mind that, again, | 记住,再次, |
| 1950 | the bigger the peak in dopamine, | 多巴胺的峰值越大, |
| 1951 | the bigger the trough in dopamine afterwards. | 多巴胺的槽越大 |
| 1952 | So pay attention to whether or not you experience a crash | 所以要注意你是否经历过空难 |
| 1953 | that same day or the next day. | 当天或第二天, |
| 1954 | But chances are, if you're using a relatively low level | 但机会是,如果你使用 相对较低的水平 |
| 1955 | of L-tyrosine, so anywhere from 250, maybe 500 milligrams | 约250毫克或500毫克 |
| 1956 | or a thousand milligrams of L-tyrosine | 或千毫克的L-ty |
| 1957 | prior to cognitive or physical work | 认知或体力工作之前 |
| 1958 | and taken early in the day, by the way, | 顺便说一句, |
| 1959 | because this can act as a bit of a stimulant, | 因为这能起到刺激作用 |
| 1960 | that you're going to achieve these long lasting increases | 你将会实现这些长期的增长 |
| 1961 | in baseline dopamine. | 在基线多巴胺中。 |
| 1962 | But please also keep in mind that I always, always suggest | 但请记住,我总是,总是建议 |
| 1963 | that you engage in the proper behaviors | 你们的行为, |
| 1964 | and you disengage from the improper behaviors | 你远离不义的行为, |
| 1965 | as a first line of offense on any health goal. | 作为任何健康目标的首要犯罪线。 |
| 1966 | So now you know how to set your baseline levels | 现在你知道如何设定基线水平了 |
| 1967 | of dopamine at the highest possible level. | 多巴胺的含量最高 |
| 1968 | You of course want to guard that baseline level of dopamine | 你当然想保护多巴胺的基线水平 |
| 1969 | very carefully. | 非常仔细。 |
| 1970 | So for instance, you want to avoid any kind of behaviors | 举个例子,你想避免任何行为 |
| 1971 | or substances that are going to peak your baseline level | 或将达到基准水平峰值的物质 |
| 1972 | of dopamine very high or very sharply. | 多巴胺的含量很高或非常高 |
| 1973 | Or if you do engage in those types of behaviors, | 或者,如果你确实从事 此类行为, |
| 1974 | whatever they may be, that you are well aware | 无论他们是什么,你都是彻知的, |
| 1975 | that your baseline level of dopamine will drop | 您的多巴胺基准水平将下降 |
| 1976 | far below what it was after that peak has fallen. | 远远低于高峰之后的水平 |
| 1977 | You will be essentially in the quote unquote trough. | 您将基本上在引文未引用槽。 |
| 1978 | If however, you find yourself in that trough, | 但是,如果你发现自己在这个槽, |
| 1979 | you now have the knowledge to understand | 你现在有 知识来理解 |
| 1980 | that that trough will resolve if you wait enough time. | 如果你等得够久 那槽就能解决了 |
| 1981 | That baseline level of dopamine that you were at | 你当时的多巴胺基准水平 |
| 1982 | prior to the peak will come back. | 在高峰来临之前 |
| 1983 | You will feel better. | 你会感觉好点的 |
| 1984 | However, most people don't know that. | 然而,大多数人并不知道这一点. |
| 1985 | And as a consequence, when they feel that low, | 结果,当他们觉得低落时, |
| 1986 | that is they feel kind of a motivated, | 他们有某种动机, |
| 1987 | maybe a little bit depressed, | 也许有点沮丧, |
| 1988 | maybe a lot a motivated or a lot depressed | 可能有很多动机或抑郁症 |
| 1989 | following some quote unquote peak experience. | 跟随一些引用 未经引用的高峰经验。 |
| 1990 | What they end up doing is thinking | 他们最后会想 |
| 1991 | about what caused that peak experience | 关于是什么导致的高峰经历 |
| 1992 | and then go back and try to reengage in the behavior | 然后回去尝试重新参与行为 |
| 1993 | and try and regenerate that peak experience. | 并尝试再生 高峰的经验。 |
| 1994 | But you now know that that is a terrible strategy. | 但你现在知道这是一个可怕的策略。 |
| 1995 | In fact, that strategy will only lead to diminished peaks | 事实上,这一策略只会导致峰值减少 |
| 1996 | from the same experience. | 从同样的经历。 |
| 1997 | It will lead to, in many cases, | 它将导致,在许多情况下, |
| 1998 | pursuing more and more intense experiences | 追求越来越强烈的经验 |
| 1999 | to try and recapitulate, recreate that big peak, | 尝试重新概括 重现那个大峰顶 |
| 2000 | which won't work. | 没用的 |
| 2001 | Or even worse, people start stacking and combining | 更糟的是,人们开始堆叠和结合 |
| 2002 | different dopamine-increasing behaviors | 不同多巴胺增殖行为 |
| 2003 | in order to try and obtain something like that initial peak | 为了尝试 并获得类似 初始高峰 |
| 2004 | when in fact, all they need to do, | 事实上,他们需要做的, |
| 2005 | all you need to do is simply wait | 你只需要等一会 |
| 2006 | because the way that the dopamine circuitry is arranged | 因为多巴胺电路的安排方式 |
| 2007 | is that it's not just about pleasure, as you know, | 不只是快乐,你知道, |
| 2008 | it's about motivation, desire, pursuit and pleasure. | 这是关于动机,欲望,追求和快乐。 |
| 2009 | And it also has everything to do with pain and discomfort. | 亦有与疼痛及烦恼俱. |
| 2010 | Now, when people hear the word pain, | 现在 当人们听到痛苦这个词 |
| 2011 | they often think, oh, pain, okay, | 他们经常想,哦,痛苦,好吧, |
| 2012 | so a physical pain or an intense emotional pain. | 身体疼痛或强烈的情感痛苦 |
| 2013 | But today we're going to talk about pain | 但今天我们要谈谈痛苦 |
| 2014 | a little bit differently. | 有点不一样 |
| 2015 | We're going to talk about the pain associated | 我们来谈谈痛苦 |
| 2016 | with the trough and dopamine that occurs | 和多巴胺发生 |
| 2017 | after a big peak in dopamine | 多巴胺出现大峰后 |
| 2018 | as a period in which pain and effort go hand in hand. | 作为痛苦和努力携手并进的时期。 |
| 2019 | And I'll return to this in a moment, | 我一会再谈这个 |
| 2020 | but I want you to just note that in your mind, | 但我希望你记住,在你心里, |
| 2021 | kind of earmark that in your mind. | 那种指定 在你的脑海里。 |
| 2022 | Because what we're about to talk about | 因为我们将要谈论的 |
| 2023 | is how to leverage that pain and to use effort | 如何利用这种痛苦和努力 |
| 2024 | as a way to not just get out of the trough more quickly, | 为了不光能更快地走出水槽 |
| 2025 | but actually to get back to a higher level of baseline | 但实际上回到更高的基线水平 |
| 2026 | as you exit that trough. | 当你离开槽。 |
| 2027 | Meanwhile, I really want to harp on this one point | 同时,我真的想 坚持这一点 |
| 2028 | that I made a moment ago, | 我刚刚做的, |
| 2029 | which is that after some big experience, | 也就是说,经过一些大的经验, |
| 2030 | so it could be a vacation or a night out partying | 所以,这可能是一个假期或 一个晚上的聚会 |
| 2031 | or the birth of a new child, | 或新生儿, |
| 2032 | all of these are well-known phenomena | 所有这些都是众所周知的现象 |
| 2033 | that lead to troughs or deficits in dopamine afterwards, | 导致多巴胺的槽或缺血, |
| 2034 | which can cause a sort of postpartum depression. | 会导致产后抑郁症 |
| 2035 | Postpartum depression is a phrase normally used | 产后抑郁症是一个通常使用的词 |
| 2036 | to describe literally postpartum, | 从字面上描述产后, |
| 2037 | postbirth of a child depression. | 婴儿抑郁症后出生 |
| 2038 | And that has many causes, | 这有很多原因, |
| 2039 | not just related to dopamine baselines, | 不只是与多巴胺基线有关 |
| 2040 | although it does involve dopamine baselines, | 尽管它的确涉及多巴胺基线, |
| 2041 | but it has hormonal aspects and other aspects as well. | 但它也有荷尔蒙方面和其他方面。 |
| 2042 | But postpartum depression is also used to describe | 但产后抑郁症也用来形容 |
| 2043 | any time that our baseline dopamine has gone down | 每当我们的基准多巴胺下降时 |
| 2044 | way, way below what it was prior to some recent peak | 远低于最近高峰之前的水平 |
| 2045 | or exciting, exhilarating win or behavior. | 或激动人心,令人兴奋的胜利或行为。 |
| 2046 | A couple of things that one can do | 做点什么吧 |
| 2047 | in order to get out of that trough more quickly. | 以便更快地走出水槽 |
| 2048 | The first one is simply to wait with the understanding | 第一件事就是在谅解下等待 |
| 2049 | that you will get out. | 你会出去的 |
| 2050 | I know that sounds overly simplistic | 我知道这听起来太简单了 |
| 2051 | and maybe a little bit brutal, | 也许有点残忍, |
| 2052 | but I think most people don't realize this. | 但我认为大多数人不知道这一点。 |
| 2053 | They don't realize that the dopamine circuitry | 他们不知道多巴胺电路 |
| 2054 | does take time to replenish. | 需要时间补充。 |
| 2055 | And it has everything to do with restoring | 这和修复有关 |
| 2056 | both the synthesis of dopamine, | 多巴胺的合成, |
| 2057 | as well as what's called | 以及所谓的 |
| 2058 | the readily releasable pool of dopamine. | 很容易再释放的多巴胺 |
| 2059 | So dopamine is packaged in these little spherical things | 所以多巴胺被包装在这些小球状的东西中 |
| 2060 | that we call vesicles. | 我们称之为冰棒。 |
| 2061 | Those vesicles are released from the ends of nerves. | 这些睾丸从神经末端释放出来. |
| 2062 | So in this case, we're talking about the nerves | 因此,在这种情况下,我们谈论的是神经 |
| 2063 | 发源于VTA和ccumbens核 | |
| 2064 | and send their little wires up to the prefrontal cortex. | 把他们的小电线送到前额皮层 |
| 2065 | And that's where dopamine is released. | 这就是多巴胺释放的地方。 |
| 2066 | And that readily releasable pool of dopamine | 很容易重现的多巴胺池 |
| 2067 | takes time to replenish. | 需要时间补充。 |
| 2068 | And that can take several days in order to replenish. | 这可能需要几天时间来补充。 |
| 2069 | Just knowing that can help you through that process. | 只是知道这可以帮助你度过这个过程。 |
| 2070 | And of course, then it raises the question, | 当然,它又提出了问题, |
| 2071 | is there anything that you can do | 你能做什么吗? |
| 2072 | to accelerate that process? | 加速这一进程? |
| 2073 | And indeed there is. | 确实有 |
| 2074 | And indeed, this is what I consider, | 这确实是我的想法, |
| 2075 | not just something to get you out of a trench | 不只是让你走出战壕 |
| 2076 | of kind of lower mood and motivation, | 那种情绪和动机较低, |
| 2077 | but actually what represents the holy grail of motivation. | 但其实是动机的圣体 |
| 2078 | Today, I'm going to talk about this pain effort process | 今天我要谈的是这个痛苦过程 |
| 2079 | as a very powerful way to get out of sticking points, | 作为一种非常强大的方法 走出坚固点, |
| 2080 | but more importantly, to get into a mode | 更重要的是,进入一个模式 |
| 2081 | where effort and reward can actually accelerate | 努力和奖励实际上可以加速 |
| 2082 | your progress along any path to any goal. | 您在任何道路上的进步 任何目标。 |
| 2083 | And in a way that you can do it repeatedly. | 并以能反复行故. |
| 2084 | And this is not simply taking mechanisms from biology | 这不仅仅是从生物学中提取机制 |
| 2085 | and painting names on them. | 在他们身上画上名字 |
| 2086 | Rather, this is leveraging mechanisms in biology | 相反,这是利用生物学机制 |
| 2087 | that are well-defined in the animal and human literature | 在动物和人类文献中定义明确 |
| 2088 | that have parallels to the addiction | 与毒瘾相近的, |
| 2089 | and addiction recovery literature, | 和戒毒文献, |
| 2090 | but that have been shown in specific circumstances | 但在特定情况下已表明 |
| 2091 | to really allow people to engage in motivational pursuits | 真正允许人们 参与激励性追求 |
| 2092 | in a variety of contexts, school, relationships, | 在各种背景、学校、关系、 |
| 2093 | work, et cetera, in an ongoing way | 以持续方式开展工作等 |
| 2094 | and in a way that never depletes | 以永不枯竭的方式 |
| 2095 | their baseline of dopamine to the point | 其多巴胺的基线到点 |
| 2096 | where they have to do a lot of extra work to get it back. | 在那里,他们必须做很多额外的工作 把它拿回来。 |
| 2097 | And in a way that allows them to be really motivated | 让他们真正有动力 |
| 2098 | in a variety of contexts in an adaptive way. | 在各种情况下,以适应性的方式。 |
| 2099 | So what we're really talking about here | 所以,我们真正的谈论在这里 |
| 2100 | is regardless of your genetics, | 不管你的遗传学如何 |
| 2101 | regardless of who your parents are, | 不管你父母是谁 |
| 2102 | which obviously you couldn't select, | 很明显你无法选择 |
| 2103 | being able to leverage your dopamine system | 能够利用你的多巴胺系统 |
| 2104 | in order to be maximally motivated when you want to be | 以达到最佳的动机 |
| 2105 | and indeed to avoid procrastination. | 并避免拖延。 |
| 2106 | I'd like to tell you about a classic experiment | 我想告诉你一个经典的实验 |
| 2107 | that I've described once before on this podcast, | 我以前在播客上说过 |
| 2108 | but frankly, this experiment is so crucial. | 但坦率地说,这个实验非常关键。 |
| 2109 | I don't think it can be described enough. | 我觉得这不能形容得够多了 |
| 2110 | This was an experiment that was done at Stanford | 这是斯坦福的实验 |
| 2111 | many years ago and involved children, | 许多年前 儿童也参与其中 |
| 2112 | but it's actually been repeated in adults. | 但它实际上在成年人中重复。 |
| 2113 | The experiment involved observing | 实验涉及观测 |
| 2114 | a classroom of young children. | 一个幼儿教室。 |
| 2115 | So these were kids about kindergarten age, | 这些是幼儿园时代的孩子 |
| 2116 | a little bit older, | 有点老 |
| 2117 | and observing which activities kids like to do | 观察孩子们喜欢做什么活动 |
| 2118 | in their free time. | 在他们的空闲时间。 |
| 2119 | So their structured time where they had to, | 因此,他们的结构化时间 他们必须, |
| 2120 | these are little kids, so they play blocks | 他们是小孩子,所以他们玩块 |
| 2121 | or they had to sing or they had to write | 或者他们必须唱歌 或者他们必须写 |
| 2122 | or do what they could, or I suppose draw. | 或者做他们能做的 或者我想画画 |
| 2123 | They're probably not writing significant prose at that age, | 那时他们可能没有写大量传言 |
| 2124 | but then they had free time | 但后来他们有了空闲的时间 |
| 2125 | where they could do whatever they wanted. | 在那里他们可以做他们想要的。 |
| 2126 | And what the researchers did was observe the children | 研究人员所做的就是观察孩子们 |
| 2127 | who selected by their own choice to draw pictures. | 由自己选择绘制图片。 |
| 2128 | So there were some tables out with crayons and markers | 所以有一些桌子 蜡笔和标记 |
| 2129 | and paper, et cetera. | 和纸张,等等。 |
| 2130 | And there were some kids that would just naturally go | 有些孩子自然会去 |
| 2131 | to that activity every day | 每天参加这项活动 |
| 2132 | because they liked that activity. | 因为他们喜欢这种活动。 |
| 2133 | And they measured how much of the free time | 他们测量了空闲时间的多少 |
| 2134 | these children elected to use their free time drawing, | 这些孩子选择使用他们的空闲时间绘画, |
| 2135 | doing these different art projects. | 做这些不同的艺术项目。 |
| 2136 | And then what they did was they started introducing rewards | 然后他们开始奖励 |
| 2137 | to these children. | 给这些孩子 |
| 2138 | They started putting a gold star, | 他们开始放金星 |
| 2139 | or in some cases a silver star on their pieces of artwork | 或有时在他们的艺术品上挂上银星 |
| 2140 | and telling them what a good job they did. | 告诉他们他们做的好事 |
| 2141 | And the kids really liked that. | 孩子们真的很喜欢 |
| 2142 | In fact, who wouldn't, right? | 事实上,谁不会呢? |
| 2143 | They're not only doing an activity that they like, | 他们不仅在做他们喜欢的活动, |
| 2144 | but they're also getting a reward for it. | 但他们也因此得到奖励 |
| 2145 | So you can probably see where this is all going. | 所以,你可能可以看到这一切的去向。 |
| 2146 | What they were doing was they were increasing | 他们正在做的是增加 |
| 2147 | the amount of dopamine that these children experience. | 这些儿童所经历的多巴胺量。 |
| 2148 | And again, in parallel experiments done with adults, | 同样,在与成年人同时进行的实验中, |
| 2149 | if you take adults who enjoy a particular activity, | 如果你选择了享受某项活动的成年人, |
| 2150 | you let them do activity | 你让他们活动 |
| 2151 | and then you start rewarding them for that activity, | 然后你开始奖励 他们的活动, |
| 2152 | especially when you surprise them with a reward | 当你以报酬恫吓他们的时候, |
| 2153 | for an activity they already like, | 因为他们已经喜欢的活动, |
| 2154 | they report that being a much more pleasurable experience | 他们报告说 这是一种更愉快的经历 |
| 2155 | than had they just done the activity. | 而不是他们刚刚完成的活动。 |
| 2156 | Then what they did with these children | 然后他们对这些孩子做了什么 |
| 2157 | and in the experiments with adults, done later on, | 在成人实验中, |
| 2158 | was they cease giving them the reward. | 难道他们不给他们报酬吗? |
| 2159 | And then they observed what percentage of their free time | 然后,他们观察 他们的空闲时间的百分比 |
| 2160 | they spend doing that activity, drawing. | 画画 |
| 2161 | And what they observed was, you guessed it, | 他们所观察的是,你猜到的, |
| 2162 | a drop in the total amount of time | 总时间的减少 |
| 2163 | that the children elected to do this activity | 选择从事这项活动的儿童 |
| 2164 | that initially they were doing quite a lot. | 一开始他们做了很多。 |
| 2165 | In other words, their total satisfaction or desire | 换句话说,他们完全满意或渴望 |
| 2166 | or motivation to engage in this activity | 或从事这一活动的动机 |
| 2167 | dropped below what it was prior to ever receiving a reward. | 低于它之前得到的奖励。 |
| 2168 | And again, this has been repeated in a variety of contexts | 再说一遍,这在各种情况下都重复过 |
| 2169 | in different populations, different cultures, | 在不同的人口、不同的文化、 |
| 2170 | different countries, men, women, boys, girls, | 不同国家,男人,女人,男孩,女孩, |
| 2171 | lots of different backgrounds. | 很多不同的背景。 |
| 2172 | So what this tells us is everything you already know, | 这告诉我们的是你已经知道的一切 |
| 2173 | which is that reward prediction error | 这是奖励预测错误 |
| 2174 | is not just about the desire to do something | 不只是想要做点什么 |
| 2175 | and you carrying it out and it being pretty good, | 你执行它, 它相当不错, |
| 2176 | amazing or not good, okay? | 厉害还是不好,好吗? |
| 2177 | I always like to joke that the nervous system | 我一直喜欢开玩笑 神经系统 |
| 2178 | sort of codes things into three bins. | 将东西编码成三个盒子 |
| 2179 | You can think about this in terms of food | 你可以从食物的角度考虑 |
| 2180 | or any type of experience. | 或任何类型的经历。 |
| 2181 | It can either be yum, yes, I really like that, | 可以是yum, 是的,我真的很喜欢, |
| 2182 | yuck, I really don't like that or meh, it's kind of so-so. | 讨厌,我真的不喜欢这样或meh, 它有点如此。 |
| 2183 | What the scenario led to where rewards were received | 场景导致的奖励 |
| 2184 | for an activity that people already liked to do | 一种人们已经喜欢的活动 |
| 2185 | and then removed was that an activity | 然后被移除的是 一种活动 |
| 2186 | that at one point was a yum becomes a meh. | 有一次,一个yum变成了meh。 |
| 2187 | And that all reflects a drop in baseline dopamine, why? | 这都反映了多巴胺的基线下降,为什么? |
| 2188 | Because the activity that the children or adults liked | 因为儿童或成年人喜欢的活动 |
| 2189 | combined with the gold star or the monetary reward | 与金星或金钱奖励相结合 |
| 2190 | or praise that children and adults seem to like | 或赞扬儿童和成年人似乎喜欢 |
| 2191 | compounded to create a bigger peak in dopamine | 在多巴胺中形成更大的顶峰 |
| 2192 | and therefore a bigger trough in dopamine. | 从而在多巴胺中形成更大的槽。 |
| 2193 | And if you're already wondering | 如果你已经想知道 |
| 2194 | whether or not their desire to engage in that activity | 是否希望从事这一活动; |
| 2195 | eventually came back, it did indeed. | 最终,它确实回来了。 |
| 2196 | So essentially what I described all matches precisely | 所以基本上我所说的所有匹配 |
| 2197 | with dopamine reward prediction error | 多巴胺奖励预测错误 |
| 2198 | and the fact that peaks in dopamine | 以及多巴胺的峰值 |
| 2199 | give rise to subsequent troughs in dopamine | 在多巴胺中产生随后的槽 |
| 2200 | that if one waits long enough, | 如果一个人等得够久 |
| 2201 | allow baseline levels of dopamine to return to normal. | 允许多巴胺的基准水平恢复正常。 |
| 2202 | And of course the amplitude of that dopamine peak | 当然多巴胺峰的振幅 |
| 2203 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}通过多给点钱 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}所以就变了 | |
| 2204 | or less money in different scenarios. | 或在不同情况下少花钱。 |
| 2205 | Nearly all the different derivations of the experiments | 实验中几乎所有不同的衍生物 |
| 2206 | that you could imagine that map onto | 你可以想象那张地图 |
| 2207 | the dynamics of dopamine release | 多巴胺释放的动态 |
| 2208 | that we've been talking about during this episode | 我们在这集里一直在谈论的 |
| 2209 | all played out exactly as one would have predicted | 都按照预言的演绎 |
| 2210 | based on the neural circuitry and the dynamics of dopamine. | 基于多巴胺的神经电路和动力学. |
| 2211 | I recommend that you leverage this knowledge | 我建议你利用这些知识 |
| 2212 | to make sure that any activities that you enjoy to do, | 确保任何你喜欢的活动, |
| 2213 | whether or not you enjoy it a little or a lot, | 无论你喜欢还是喜欢 |
| 2214 | but especially if you enjoy it a lot, | 但特别是如果你喜欢它, |
| 2215 | that you guard and protect by making sure | 以便你们敬畏, |
| 2216 | that you don't start layering in or attaching reward | 以免你们因果报应而分层, |
| 2217 | or other sources of dopamine releasing behaviors | 或其他多巴胺释放行为来源 |
| 2218 | or substances to that specific behavior. | 或该特定行为的物质。 |
| 2219 | Or if you do, that you don't do it terribly often. | 或者如果你这样做, 你并不经常这样做。 |
| 2220 | Now, how often is terribly often? | 现在,多久是可怕的频率? |
| 2221 | We'll get to that in a moment. | 我们马上就能搞定 |
| 2222 | But let me give you an example from my life | 但让我举个例子 |
| 2223 | just as an example, but you will likely have | 举个例子,但你很可能 |
| 2224 | and you'll know people that will have different examples. | 你会认识那些会有不同例子的人 |
| 2225 | I love to exercise. | 我喜欢锻炼 |
| 2226 | I know to some people this might seem foreign, | 我知道有些人会觉得这有点陌生 |
| 2227 | but I love to exercise. | 但我喜欢锻炼 |
| 2228 | I love to do resistance training. | 我喜欢做抵抗训练 |
| 2229 | I love to run. | 我喜欢跑步 |
| 2230 | I am not one of those people that doesn't like | 我不是那种不喜欢的人 |
| 2231 | the experience of exercising, | 锻炼经验, |
| 2232 | but likes the feeling afterwards, quote unquote. | 但喜欢事后的感觉,引用未引用的。 |
| 2233 | I hear that a lot. | 我经常听到 |
| 2234 | I don't like to exercise, | 我不喜欢锻炼, |
| 2235 | but I love the way I feel afterwards. | 但我喜欢之后的感觉 |
| 2236 | I love physical training | 我喜欢体能训练 |
| 2237 | and I love the way I feel afterwards, | 我喜欢我之后的感受, |
| 2238 | but I mostly love the feeling during. | 但我喜欢这段感情 |
| 2239 | I don't know why I'm wired that way. | 我不知道为什么我被窃听。 |
| 2240 | I can't say that I'm somebody | 我不能说我是一个人 |
| 2241 | who likes to do hard things across the board. | 谁喜欢做 艰难的事情,全面。 |
| 2242 | There are plenty of difficult things in life that I dread | 生活中有很多我害怕的难事 |
| 2243 | or that I'm sort of meh about. | 或者我有点迷茫 |
| 2244 | But for me, hard exercise, intense exercise | 但对我来说,艰苦的锻炼,紧张的锻炼 |
| 2245 | of a particular kind, resistance training | 特定种类的抵抗训练 |
| 2246 | and running in particular, both give me a yum. | 跑得特别快 都给我一顿 |
| 2247 | Yes, I love this kind of feeling. | 是的,我喜欢这种感觉。 |
| 2248 | And yes, it persists for me quite a long while afterwards, | 是的,它持续了我很长一段时间之后, |
| 2249 | both for sake of the way that it changes my neurochemistry, | 为了改变我的神经化学 |
| 2250 | but also my sense of satisfaction, | 但也让我感到满足 |
| 2251 | but I just simply love it. | 但我只是喜欢它。 |
| 2252 | Now, years ago, I discovered that if I drink | 几年前,我发现如果我喝酒 |
| 2253 | a cup of black coffee or an Americano | 一杯黑咖啡或美国咖啡 |
| 2254 | or a double espresso or some yerba mate, | 或双份咖啡 或一些yerba配, |
| 2255 | that my workouts can be quite a bit more intense. | 我的锻炼会更激烈 |
| 2256 | I can run further. | 我可以跑远一点。 |
| 2257 | And then I also discovered | 然后我也发现 |
| 2258 | that if I were to take a pre-workout energy drink, | 如果我要吃 工作前能量饮料, |
| 2259 | or I took say 300 milligrams of alpha GPC | 或者我说300毫克的αGPC |
| 2260 | and 500 milligrams of phenol ethylamine | 和500毫克苯酚乙胺 |
| 2261 | 也许还有500毫克的L -tyrosine | |
| 2262 | and perhaps did that alongside the caffeine | 和咖啡因一起做的 |
| 2263 | and the yerba mate, then yes, absolutely. | 和yerba的伴侣, 然后是的,绝对的。 |
| 2264 | I really liked those workouts. | 我真的很喜欢这些锻炼。 |
| 2265 | I could be like a laser in terms of focus. | 我可能像激光 在焦点方面。 |
| 2266 | I could exert even more effort, put on some music | 我可以更努力,放点音乐 |
| 2267 | and I could achieve even better performance. | 我还能表现得更好 |
| 2268 | And then I also discovered that I could export | 然后我发现我可以出口 |
| 2269 | that protocol of caffeine, yerba mate | 咖啡因协议 yerba队友 |
| 2270 | and various supplements to my cognitive work. | 和各种补充 我的认知工作。 |
| 2271 | So when I was studying or writing papers | 所以当我学习或写论文时 |
| 2272 | or writing grants or in the laboratory, | 或书面赠款或实验室, |
| 2273 | when I was doing experiments with my hands in those days, | 当时我用手做实验 |
| 2274 | we know cutting brain tissue and staining it | 我们知道切除脑组织并涂污 |
| 2275 | and working really long hours. | 工作时间很长 |
| 2276 | And I discovered that all of those things, | 我发现所有这些东西, |
| 2277 | all of those behaviors compounded with my love of exercise | 所有这些行为都与我对锻炼的热爱相加 |
| 2278 | and my love of doing science and gave me these big peaks | 我对科学的热爱 给了我这些大山峰 |
| 2279 | in what to me felt like even important experiences. | 对我来说 感觉就像重要的经验 |
| 2280 | They felt unlike anything else. | 他们感觉不像其他任何东西。 |
| 2281 | They were just so, so peak in their nature, | 他们只是如此,如此高峰 他们的性质, |
| 2282 | which was great. | 这是伟大的。 |
| 2283 | And it did indeed enhance my performance. | 这确实提高了我的成绩。 |
| 2284 | However, while it did not create a dependency | 然而,虽然它没有造成依赖性 |
| 2285 | for those different substances, | 对于这些不同的物质, |
| 2286 | caffeine supplements, et cetera, | 咖啡因补充剂,等等, |
| 2287 | what I noticed was that in the days | 我所注意到的是,在白天 |
| 2288 | and sometimes weekends afterwards, | 有时周末之后, |
| 2289 | even though for much of my career, | 尽管我大部分的职业生涯 |
| 2290 | I confess I've worked weekends as well, | 我承认我也周末工作过 |
| 2291 | but I would notice that I'd experienced | 但我会注意到我经历过 |
| 2292 | a real trough in energy. | 一个真正的能量槽。 |
| 2293 | I just would not feel that good. | 我只是不会感觉那么好。 |
| 2294 | And then if I kept up those behaviors consistently | 然后,如果我保持 这些行为一致 |
| 2295 | and I was consistently adding in these other, | 我总是在这些其他的, |
| 2296 | let's just call them what they are, | 让我们叫他们是什么, |
| 2297 | dopamine releasing or stimulating behaviors and substances | 多巴胺释放或刺激行为和物质 |
| 2298 | that my enthusiasm for physical training or running | 我对身体训练或跑步的热情 |
| 2299 | or for doing experiments actually started to diminish. | 或因为做实验 开始减少。 |
| 2300 | And this was really discouraging to me at the time | 这让我很沮丧 |
| 2301 | because I started to think, okay, maybe I'm burnt out. | 因为我开始想,好吧, 也许我被烧焦了。 |
| 2302 | Maybe I have adrenal burnout, | 也许我有肾上腺发烧, |
| 2303 | which by the way, doesn't exist, folks. | 顺便说一句, 并不存在,伙计们。 |
| 2304 | Your adrenals don't burn out. | 你的肾上腺不会烧焦的 |
| 2305 | There is something called adrenal insufficiency syndrome. | 肾上腺不足症候群 |
| 2306 | You can over-stimulate your system | 你可以过度刺激你的系统 |
| 2307 | by way of too much adrenaline, epinephrine | 肾上腺素、肾上腺素 |
| 2308 | and norepinephrine, but that's a separate thing. | 和肾上腺素, 但这是另外一回事。 |
| 2309 | There's no such thing as adrenal burnout per se. | 肾上腺燃烧症本身就不存在. |
| 2310 | But I didn't know that. | 但我不知道这一点。 |
| 2311 | So I thought, gosh, I'm really burnt out | 所以我想,天啊,我真的被烧焦了 |
| 2312 | when in fact it's now obvious to me what I was doing. | 事实上现在我明白自己在做什么了 |
| 2313 | I was combining too many dopamine releasing | 我合并了太多多巴胺释放 |
| 2314 | or stimulating behaviors and substances | 或者刺激行为和物质 |
| 2315 | for things that I already enjoy doing as behaviors, | 对于我已经喜欢的行为, |
| 2316 | namely exercise and doing experiments, | 即锻炼和实验, |
| 2317 | anything related to science actually. | 和科学有关的东西 |
| 2318 | So what this means is not to avoid taking things | 所以,这意味着不 避免带走的东西 |
| 2319 | or doing things that amplify your amount of dopamine, | 或做会增加你多巴胺量的事 |
| 2320 | but to be very cautious about how often one does that | 但要非常小心 经常这样做 |
| 2321 | and how many different dopamine stimulating behaviors | 有多少不同的多巴胺刺激行为 |
| 2322 | or compounds one stacks, especially in terms of taking | 或化合物一叠,特别是取 |
| 2323 | those things or stacking those things in and around | 那些东西,或者把那些东西堆在周围 |
| 2324 | behaviors that you already really enjoy doing. | 你已经很喜欢的行为 |
| 2325 | I was essentially just creating another version | 我基本上只是创造另一个版本 |
| 2326 | of the kids in nursery school or first grade | 幼儿学校或一年级学生 |
| 2327 | with the gold star experiment. | 与金星实验. |
| 2328 | I was basically just doing the exact same thing. | 我基本上只是做了同样的事情。 |
| 2329 | And when I realized that, and I changed my relationship | 当我意识到这一点, 我改变了我的关系 |
| 2330 | to those compounds, I didn't eliminate them altogether, | 这些化合物,我没有完全消除它们, |
| 2331 | but I started realizing, for instance, | 但我开始意识到,例如, |
| 2332 | that I didn't need to double up on yerba mate | 我不需要加倍的yerba队友 |
| 2333 | and coffee every workout. | 和咖啡每一次锻炼。 |
| 2334 | Sometimes I would do one, sometimes I would do the other. | 有时候我会做一个, 有时我会做另一个。 |
| 2335 | Frankly, I always do one or the other. | 老实说,我总是这样 |
| 2336 | It's rare that I ever do any kind of physical training | 我很少做任何体能训练 |
| 2337 | without some caffeine first. | 没有咖啡因先。 |
| 2338 | And I do my physical training typically | 我做我的体能训练 通常 |
| 2339 | in the early part of the day. | 在早期的时候。 |
| 2340 | So that's fine, doesn't interfere with my sleep. | 所以没关系,不会妨碍我的睡眠。 |
| 2341 | I might do a hike without caffeine, | 我可能去远足 没有咖啡因, |
| 2342 | but if I'm in a weight trainer, I'm going to run. | 但是如果我是体重教练,我要去跑步。 |
| 2343 | I tend to drink coffee beforehand or have yerba mate. | 我经常喝咖啡 或有yerba伴侣。 |
| 2344 | Or if I occasionally, meaning about once every third, | 或者,如果我偶尔,意思 大概每三分之一, |
| 2345 | sometimes every other, but usually about every third workout, | 有时其他的, 但通常大约三分之一的锻炼, |
| 2346 | I'll take 300 milligrams of alpha GPC, maybe occasionally, | 我拿300毫克的αGPC, 也许偶尔, |
| 2347 | maybe every third or fourth workout. | 也许每三四次锻炼一次 |
| 2348 | And these are resistance workouts, mind you, not running. | 这些都是抵抗运动, 注意你,不是跑步。 |
| 2349 | 我要吃500毫克的L -tyrosine | |
| 2350 | or more typically 500 milligrams of phenolethylamine. | 或更典型的500毫克苯乙胺. |
| 2351 | And very, very rarely, maybe once every two or three months, | 而且非常,非常少,也许每两三个月一次, |
| 2352 | I might stack all of those things together | 我可能会把这些东西堆在一起 |
| 2353 | prior to a workout. | 在锻炼之前。 |
| 2354 | But of course, I'm always mindful to also include workouts | 当然,我总是要注意 也包括锻炼 |
| 2355 | or runs or bouts of cognitive work. | 或运行或爆发 认知工作。 |
| 2356 | So that could be grant writing, prepping for a podcast, | 因此,这可能是给予写作, 准备播客, |
| 2357 | et cetera, where I don't do anything prior. | 诸如此类,我以前不做任何事 |
| 2358 | Maybe just my caffeine, | 也许只是我的咖啡因, |
| 2359 | because I have a baseline level of caffeine | 因为我有咖啡因的基准水平 |
| 2360 | that I use each day to function like many people. | 每天我都会像很多人一样工作 |
| 2361 | There's a baseline level of caffeine | 咖啡因的基线水平 |
| 2362 | that just allows us to function | 那只是让我们能发挥 |
| 2363 | if we're a perpetual user of caffeine. | 如果我们永远使用咖啡因 |
| 2364 | I talked a lot about this on the episode in caffeine. | 我经常在咖啡因的剧集里谈论这个 |
| 2365 | But the key here is be cautious. | 但这里的关键是谨慎的。 |
| 2366 | I would say be very cautious about stacking and layering | 我要说对堆叠和分层要小心 |
| 2367 | in too many dopamine peak inducing behaviors | 在太多的多巴胺峰 诱导行为 |
| 2368 | all at once on a regular basis. | 一次一次的定期。 |
| 2369 | The key point here is if you are somebody | 关键是如果你是某个人 |
| 2370 | that can engage in these intrinsically joyful activities | 能够参与这些内在快乐的活动 |
| 2371 | for you, these activities that you're really motivated to do, | 对你来说,这些你真正想要做的事情, |
| 2372 | whether or not it's skiing or playing music | 无论是滑雪还是演奏音乐 |
| 2373 | or dancing, et cetera, | 或跳舞,等等, |
| 2374 | without the need to layer in additional dopamine | 无需再分层多巴胺 |
| 2375 | releasing mechanisms or compounds or activities, | 释放机制或化合物或活动, |
| 2376 | well, then I highly recommend you do that, | 好吧,那么我强烈建议你这样做, |
| 2377 | because then you are essentially making yourself | 因为你根本就是在自作自受 |
| 2378 | one of those fortunate few | 幸运的少数之一 |
| 2379 | that does not require additional stimuli | 不需要额外刺激 |
| 2380 | and therefore can hold onto that pleasure, | 故你应当享受那快乐, |
| 2381 | can hold onto that intrinsic pleasure and motivation | 可以保持内在的快乐和动机 |
| 2382 | to engage in these behaviors over time, | 随时间推移从事这些行为, |
| 2383 | which frankly, there is no replacement for. | 坦率地说,没有替代品。 |
| 2384 | There is no pill or bottle or potion | 没有药丸、瓶子、药水 |
| 2385 | or motivational speech or podcast or book | 或鼓励演讲、播客或书 |
| 2386 | that can replace intrinsic motivation. | 这可以取代内在动机。 |
| 2387 | Intrinsic motivation is perhaps the holy grail | 内在动机或许是神圣的 |
| 2388 | of all human endeavors and behaviors, | 所有人类的努力和行为, |
| 2389 | because it encompasses so much of what brought us | 因为它包含这么多 给我们带来的东西 |
| 2390 | to this point in our species evolution | 到我们物种进化的这一步 |
| 2391 | and also what brings each and every one of us | 以及带给我们每个人的东西 |
| 2392 | closer and closer to our goals. | 越来越接近我们的目标。 |
| 2393 | And if it's happening with enjoyment | 如果它与乐趣发生 |
| 2394 | without the need to layer in additional tools, | 不需要在额外的工具中分层, |
| 2395 | well, then you have really tapped into the source. | 好吧,那么你真的 挖掘到源。 |
| 2396 | And when I say the source, | 当我说源头, |
| 2397 | I don't mean it in any kind of mystical way. | 我不是在说任何神秘的事情 |
| 2398 | I think it's quite clear by now | 我觉得现在已经很清楚了 |
| 2399 | that when we hear about chi from Eastern medicine, | 当我们听到东方医学的气, |
| 2400 | or we talk about motivation drive and pursuit | 或者我们讨论动机驱动和追求 |
| 2401 | in Western neurobiological languages | 西方神经生物学语言 |
| 2402 | that relates to dopamine, | 关于多巴胺, |
| 2403 | or we hear about the source, | 或者我们听到消息 |
| 2404 | maybe in my podcast episode with the one and only | 也许在我的播客插曲 与唯一的 |
| 2405 | Rick Rubin, incredibly productive music producer, | 里克·鲁宾,令人难以置信的音乐制作人 |
| 2406 | who's just an unbelievable track record | 她只是令人难以置信的纪录 |
| 2407 | in terms of creative endeavors. | 在创造性的努力方面。 |
| 2408 | And he talks about the source. | 而说源头. |
| 2409 | We're really talking about the same thing, | 我们说的是同样的事情 |
| 2410 | which is this set of circuits within us | 这就是我们内部的这组电路 |
| 2411 | that allow us to identify what we want | 从而使我们能够确定我们想要什么 |
| 2412 | and then lean into effort. | 然后倾注在努力中。 |
| 2413 | And then to do that in a persistent way | 然后坚持下去 |
| 2414 | that allows us to reach our goals. | 这使我们能够实现我们的目标。 |
| 2415 | And if we can do that with an intrinsic sense of pleasure, | 如果我们能用内在的快乐感做到这一点, |
| 2416 | well, that is nothing short of magic. | 好吧,这简直就是魔法 |
| 2417 | But of course it's not magic, it's science. | 当然不是魔法 而是科学 |
| 2418 | And of course, most people are not concerned | 当然,大多数人都不关心 |
| 2419 | about trying to protect the things they already enjoy | 试图保护他们已经享受的东西 |
| 2420 | in order to make sure that they can continue | 以确保他们能够继续 |
| 2421 | to do those things and enjoy them. | 做那些事,享受它们。 |
| 2422 | Most people are thinking about how they can engage | 大多数人都在思考如何参与 |
| 2423 | and pursue things that are less than pleasureful to them, | 且追求他们所享受的, |
| 2424 | or how they can continue to engage in motivated behaviors | 或如何继续从事有动机的行为 |
| 2425 | when the going gets tough. | 当事情变得艰难。 |
| 2426 | Or, and this is a big one, | 或者,这是一个很大的一个, |
| 2427 | I hear this over and over again | 我反复听到这个 |
| 2428 | as a request to cover on this podcast, | 作为这个播客的要求, |
| 2429 | how people can overcome procrastination. | 人们如何克服拖延。 |
| 2430 | What we're going to talk about now | 我们现在要谈的是什么 |
| 2431 | is how the dynamics of dopamine release | 是多巴胺释放的动力学 |
| 2432 | that you already are aware of, | 你们确已知道, |
| 2433 | plus an additional dynamic | 加上额外的动态 |
| 2434 | that we haven't quite talked about | 我们还没说清楚 |
| 2435 | can allow you to leverage dopamine | 可以让你利用多巴胺 |
| 2436 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}真的会带给你 | |
| 2437 | to the holy grail of motivation and drive, | 以动机和动力的圣杯, |
| 2438 | which is when effort starts to become the reward itself. | 当努力成为报酬的时候, |
| 2439 | In other words, when friction becomes the reward. | 换句话说,当摩擦变成奖励时. |
| 2440 | I know that sounds crazy to some of you, | 我知道你们中有些人听起来很疯狂 |
| 2441 | but when friction becomes the reward, | 当摩擦变成报酬的时候, |
| 2442 | you can pass from an idea and a goal, | 你可以通过一个想法和一个目标, |
| 2443 | no matter how daunting, | 无论多么艰巨 |
| 2444 | to successful completion of that goal | 成功实现这一目标 |
| 2445 | {\fn黑体\fs20\shad2\2aH82\3aH20\4aH33\fscx95\3cH592001\be1}在经历本质的 | |
| 2446 | will feel like pleasure the entire time. | 将感到快乐的整个时间。 |
| 2447 | Now, that doesn't mean it will be bliss the entire time, | 现在,这并不意味着 它会是幸福的全部时间, |
| 2448 | but what is very possible is to leverage the dynamics | 但最有可能的 是利用动态 |
| 2449 | of both dopamine peaks and dopamine troughs | 多巴胺峰和多巴胺槽 |
| 2450 | in order to not just maintain | 为了不只是维持 |
| 2451 | your baseline level of dopamine, | 您的多巴胺基线水平, |
| 2452 | but to also pull yourself out of any kind of procrastination | 也为了摆脱任何拖延 |
| 2453 | or other kind of overthinking trenches very quickly | 或者其他那种过度思考的壕沟 很快 |
| 2454 | and get back into a mode of pursuit. | 然后回到追逐的模式 |
| 2455 | So how do we make effort the reward? | 那么,我们如何努力 奖励? |
| 2456 | You may have heard about this | 你可能听说过这个 |
| 2457 | in the context of so-called growth mindset. | 以所谓的增长心态为背景。 |
| 2458 | Growth mindset is the incredible discovery | 增长思维是不可思议的发现 |
| 2459 | and research papers from my colleague, | 和我同事的研究论文, |
| 2460 | Dr. Carol Dweck in the psychology department at Stanford. | 斯坦福心理学系的卡罗尔·德韦克博士. |
| 2461 | And there are others such as David Yeager | 还有大卫·耶格 |
| 2462 | at the University of Texas Austin | 德克萨斯大学奥斯汀分校 |
| 2463 | who have leveraged the so-called growth mindset | 他们利用了所谓的增长思维 |
| 2464 | as a tool that young people and adults alike | 作为青年人和成年人的工具 |
| 2465 | can use in order to get better at anything. | 可以用来改善一切 |
| 2466 | And the basic contour of growth mindset | 以及增长思维的基本轮廓 |
| 2467 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}就是采取那种心态 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}如果你不能做点什么 | |
| 2468 | or if you can't do it well, | 或者如果你做不好的话, |
| 2469 | that you can't do it or can't do it well yet. | 你无法做到 或不能做得好。 |
| 2470 | It's that word yet that's really key. | 是那个词,其实是关键 |
| 2471 | And there are a number of different tools and techniques | 有很多不同的工具和技术 |
| 2472 | that people use to adopt growth mindset, | 人们用来采取增长心态, |
| 2473 | but it all starts with that relationship | 但一切都从这种关系开始 |
| 2474 | to not being able to do it yet. | 无法做到这一点。 |
| 2475 | Now, that all sounds pretty straightforward | 现在,这听起来很直接 |
| 2476 | when you tell yourself, | 当你告诉自己, |
| 2477 | but when we are in a performance context, | 但是,当我们是在 一个表现背景, |
| 2478 | when we expect ourselves to be able to motivate | 当我们期待自己能够激励 |
| 2479 | or when we expect ourselves to be able to perform | 或者当我们期望自己能够表演 |
| 2480 | and we can't, that often sets up | 我们不能,那常常设置 |
| 2481 | a downward spiral of motivation | 动机呈螺旋式下降 |
| 2482 | because we are so used to being attached | 因为我们习惯被附身 |
| 2483 | to the relationship between desire, motivation, | 与欲望、动机、 |
| 2484 | and outcomes, reward prediction error. | 和结果,奖励 预测错误。 |
| 2485 | We want something, we want that A in class, | 我们想要的东西,我们想要A级, |
| 2486 | or we want to learn how to dance, | 或者我们想学习如何跳舞, |
| 2487 | or we want to be able to do this physical skill | 或者我们想做这种体能 |
| 2488 | of another kind or learn a language | 或学习语言 |
| 2489 | or get the mate we desire or make the relationship work | 或找到我们想要的伴侣 或使关系发挥作用 |
| 2490 | or make the business work on and on. | 或使企业继续运作。 |
| 2491 | And then we get the outcome that we don't want | 然后我们得到的结果 我们不希望 |
| 2492 | and our confidence, for lack of a better word, | 和我们的信心, 由于缺乏更好的言语, |
| 2493 | drops over time. | 时间流逝。 |
| 2494 | Oftentimes, that leads to situations | 往往导致情况 |
| 2495 | where we are not motivated, we are A motivated. | 我们没有动机,我们是有动机的。 |
| 2496 | It can even lead to situations | 它甚至会导致局势 |
| 2497 | where we are downright depressed. | 我们非常沮丧 |
| 2498 | There's also circumstances where people, | 也有一些情况,人们, |
| 2499 | myself included, of course, procrastinate. | 我当然包括拖延 |
| 2500 | We know we should do something, | 我们知道我们应该做点什么, |
| 2501 | but somehow we can't get motivated. | 但不知怎的,我们没有动力 |
| 2502 | We know that if we put in the effort, we'll get there, | 我们知道,如果我们投入努力, 我们会到达那里, |
| 2503 | but we can't do it, | 但我们不能做到这一点, |
| 2504 | either because we don't like the activity | 或者因为我们不喜欢这种活动 |
| 2505 | or we're just not feeling great. | 或者我们只是感觉不好。 |
| 2506 | Now, we could be quote unquote, not feeling great, | 现在,我们可以被引出 未引用,不感觉很好, |
| 2507 | not feeling motivated | 没有动机 |
| 2508 | because our dopamine baseline is low. | 因为我们的多巴胺基线很低 |
| 2509 | And so I absolutely encourage everybody | 所以我绝对鼓励大家 |
| 2510 | to take a look at themselves | 来看看自己 |
| 2511 | anytime they're in a motivated state, | 只要他们处于积极状态 |
| 2512 | take a look at the landscape of their life, | 看看他们生活的风景 |
| 2513 | not just at that moment, | 不只是此时此刻 |
| 2514 | but in the preceding days and weeks, | 但在前几天和前周, |
| 2515 | and ask whether or not you've been tending | 问问你有没有照顾过 |
| 2516 | to those foundational things that we talked about earlier, | 我们之前讨论的那些基础问题 |
| 2517 | whether or not you are engaging any other of the tools | 无论你是否使用其他工具 |
| 2518 | that we talked about earlier | 刚才我们谈的 |
| 2519 | to see if you can get into a motivated state. | 看看能不能进入一个有动机的状态 |
| 2520 | However, if all of those boxes are checked, you answer, | 但是,如果这些盒子都检查过了,你回答 |
| 2521 | yes, I'm doing all those things. | 是的,我做所有这些事情。 |
| 2522 | I'm just not motivated. | 我只是没有动机。 |
| 2523 | Whatever reason, I'm just procrastinating. | 不管什么原因 我只是在拖延时间 |
| 2524 | I don't know, I don't want to do it, | 我不知道,我不想这样做, |
| 2525 | or I'm not feeling motivated. | 或者我感觉没有动机 |
| 2526 | Well, then there's a very potent set of tools | 那么有一套非常强大的工具 |
| 2527 | that you can leverage to overcome states | 你可以利用杠杆 克服状态 |
| 2528 | of lack of motivation, overcome procrastination, | 缺乏动力,克服拖延, |
| 2529 | and indeed can help you deal with things like overthinking | 我的确能帮助你们应付诸如过分思维之类的事情, |
| 2530 | as it relates to procrastination | 因为它涉及到拖延 |
| 2531 | and lack of motivation as well. | 也缺乏动力 |
| 2532 | So the way this works is the following. | 因此,这个方法是: |
| 2533 | If you recall, a peak in dopamine | 如果你记得 多巴胺的峰值 |
| 2534 | is followed by a trough in dopamine. | 之后是多巴胺的槽。 |
| 2535 | That trough in dopamine is experienced as pain | 多巴胺的槽是痛苦的 |
| 2536 | or wanting or craving. | 或渴望或渴望。 |
| 2537 | That pain that I'm referring to | 我指的是那种痛苦 |
| 2538 | is actually a craving or a wanting, | 实际上是渴望或渴望, |
| 2539 | and it's a craving or wanting for a specific state | 它是一个渴望或渴望 一个特定的状态 |
| 2540 | that you would like to achieve | 您希望实现 |
| 2541 | that is different than the one that you're in. | 这和你穿的不一样 |
| 2542 | You want to get out of that trough. | 你想从槽里出来 |
| 2543 | And as you recall from earlier in the episode, | 正如你早些时候回忆的那样 |
| 2544 | that trough is the stimulus | 那个槽就是刺激 |
| 2545 | for the ongoing release of dopamine | 继续释放多巴胺 |
| 2546 | that provides the propeller, the motivation | 提供螺旋桨 动力 |
| 2547 | to go forward and seek some goal, okay? | 继续前进 并寻找一些目标,好吗? |
| 2548 | So when we are not motivated, | 所以,当我们没有动机, |
| 2549 | when we are in a so-called a-motivated state, | 当我们处于所谓的有动机状态时, |
| 2550 | or when we are procrastinating, | 或等待的时候, |
| 2551 | or when we just sort of can't seem to get in gear, | 或者,当我们只是 那种不能似乎得到装备, |
| 2552 | the key to getting out of that pain trough | 摆脱痛苦的关键 |
| 2553 | is one of two things. | 是两件事之一。 |
| 2554 | I already told you earlier, you can just wait. | 我早说过了,你可以等等 |
| 2555 | You can wait till your motivation comes back, | 你可以等到你的动机回来, |
| 2556 | and a lot of people do wait. | 很多人都等着呢 |
| 2557 | In fact, they procrastinate. | 事实上,他们拖延。 |
| 2558 | They start doing other things that are less painful | 他们开始做其他不太痛苦的事 |
| 2559 | than the state that they happen to be in | 而不是他们碰巧处于的状态 |
| 2560 | when they are trying to get into gear to go work out, | 当他们试图进入 装备去工作, |
| 2561 | because they realize not everyone wants to do that, | 因为他们意识到不是每个人都想这么做, |
| 2562 | or to study, or to have a hard conversation, | 或学习, 或有一个艰难的谈话, |
| 2563 | whatever it is. | 无论它是什么。 |
| 2564 | And what do they do? | 他们做什么的? |
| 2565 | They start engaging in activities that we, | 他们开始从事我们, |
| 2566 | and indeed they, would not consider pleasureful activities. | 他们必定不认为自己是愉快的。 |
| 2567 | They start, for instance, cleaning the house. | 例如,他们开始清理房子。 |
| 2568 | So seemingly out of nowhere, | 所以似乎从哪里冒出来, |
| 2569 | they start engaging in these activities | 他们开始从事这些活动 |
| 2570 | that normally are not intrinsically pleasureful for them. | 通常对他们来说 本质上并不快乐 |
| 2571 | They're not highly motivated to do them. | 他们没有很强的动机去做 |
| 2572 | As a replacement for doing the very thing | 作为替补做这件事 |
| 2573 | that they quote unquote need to do, or ought to do, | 他们引用未引用的 需要做,或应该做, |
| 2574 | and that they're procrastinating to do. | 和他们拖延做。 |
| 2575 | What they're essentially doing here | 他们在这里做什么 |
| 2576 | is a mild type of addiction replacement. | 是一种温和的替代成瘾类型。 |
| 2577 | In other words, rather than be in the painful state | 换句话说,不是处于痛苦的状态 |
| 2578 | and wait for it to pass, | 等待它过去, |
| 2579 | they're doing things that give them | 他们正在做一些给他们 |
| 2580 | some sense of accomplishment, | 某种成就感, |
| 2581 | ostensibly to give them the sense | 表面上是让他们明白 |
| 2582 | that they're completing things. | 他们正在完成一些事情。 |
| 2583 | And perhaps, and I don't know, | 也许,我不知道, |
| 2584 | because I'm not in the psychology | 因为我不在心理学界 |
| 2585 | of knowing what other people are thinking, | 知道别人在想什么, |
| 2586 | perhaps in order to generate the momentum | 可能是为了创造势头 |
| 2587 | in order to get engaged enough or motivated enough | 为了足够多的订婚 或足够的积极性 |
| 2588 | to study or work out or whatever activity it is | 研究或研究活动或任何活动 |
| 2589 | that they're trying to avoid through procrastination. | 他们试图通过拖延来避免。 |
| 2590 | Now, what's interesting about this dynamic is, | 现在,这个动态有趣的是, |
| 2591 | first of all, it's extremely common. | 首先,这是极其常见的。 |
| 2592 | And second of all, a lot of people will use this | 其次,很多人会用这个 |
| 2593 | as a tactic so that they get very close | 作为一种战术 让他们非常接近 |
| 2594 | to the deadline to complete something, | 到完成某事的最后期限, |
| 2595 | and then they go into a sort of pseudo panic, | 然后他们陷入了一种假的恐慌, |
| 2596 | and then use anxiety as a way | 然后用焦虑作为方法 |
| 2597 | to leverage their mental and physical resources | 利用他们的身心资源 |
| 2598 | to complete that thing. | 完成这件事情。 |
| 2599 | How do I know the contour of this so well? | 我怎么会这么清楚? |
| 2600 | How do I understand the inner dynamics of it? | 我如何理解它的内在动态? |
| 2601 | Well, part of that relates to my work as a neurobiologist | 嗯,其中的一部分 与我的工作 作为神经生物学家 |
| 2602 | and reading the papers that I'll mention to you in a moment. | 和阅读论文 我一会儿会提到你。 |
| 2603 | But it also relates to the fact that I am somebody | 但它也涉及到我是一个人 |
| 2604 | who waits quite a while, | 他们等待了很久, |
| 2605 | right up until the sort of last minute possible | 直到最后一分钟 |
| 2606 | to complete something for activities | 完成活动 |
| 2607 | that I don't want to do, | 我不想这样做, |
| 2608 | something I've been working on my whole life | 我一辈子都在努力工作 |
| 2609 | In any case, I'm very familiar | 总之,我很熟悉 |
| 2610 | with the procrastination process. | 与拖延的过程。 |
| 2611 | So how can we overcome procrastination? | 那么,我们如何克服拖延? |
| 2612 | Well, it turns out that there are findings | 原来有发现 |
| 2613 | from within the addiction literature | 从毒瘾文献 |
| 2614 | that turn out to be very powerful | 事实证明,这是非常强大的 |
| 2615 | towards leveraging our way out of procrastination. | 利用我们的方法 摆脱拖延。 |
| 2616 | And it has to do with this. | 这和这件事有关 |
| 2617 | You already know, | 你已经知道了, |
| 2618 | because I've told you probably a dozen times now, | 因为我跟你说过十几次了 |
| 2619 | that the depth of the trough after a dopamine peak | 多巴胺峰后的槽深 |
| 2620 | is proportional to how high that peak was | 与峰峰的高度成正比 |
| 2621 | and how steep it was, how quickly that peak occurred. | 和有多陡峭, 有多快的高峰发生。 |
| 2622 | It turns out that not only is the depth | 原来不仅是深度 |
| 2623 | of the trough proportional to that, | 与该比例相当的槽, |
| 2624 | but the rate at which you get out of that trough | 但你从槽里出来的速度 |
| 2625 | is proportional to how steep that trough is. | 与河槽的陡度成正比 |
| 2626 | Let me explain this for you | 让我给你解释一下 |
| 2627 | in as clear terms as I possibly can. | 尽可能地说清楚 |
| 2628 | Imagine you're in an A-motivated state. | 想象一下你处于A动机状态 |
| 2629 | You're just not feeling motivated. | 你只是觉得没有动机。 |
| 2630 | You're procrastinating. | 你在拖延时间 |
| 2631 | You may think, okay, the thing to do here is something. | 你可能认为,好吧, 事情在这里是做的东西。 |
| 2632 | I'll clean the house. | 我会清理房子。 |
| 2633 | I'll take care of some bills. | 我会处理一些帐单。 |
| 2634 | I'll do something. | 我会做一些事情。 |
| 2635 | Or I'll just wait. | 否则我就等着 |
| 2636 | Those approaches, as we talked about before, | 这些方法,正如我们以前谈到的, |
| 2637 | generally don't work or at least don't work quickly, | 通常不工作或至少不快速工作, |
| 2638 | or they lead you right up to the deadline | 或者他们把你带到最后期限之前 |
| 2639 | and that's the deadline that forces you to get something done | 那是你必须完成的最后期限 |
| 2640 | or you just don't get it done | 否则你就是不做 |
| 2641 | and you don't succeed in your goal. | 而你却不能成功实现你的目标 |
| 2642 | That happens a lot as well. | 这种事也经常发生 |
| 2643 | However, if you were to take that state | 但是,如果你要采取这种状态 |
| 2644 | of being unmotivated, of procrastinating, | 是无心的,是拖延的, |
| 2645 | and actually do something that's harder | 做一些更难的事 |
| 2646 | than being in that A-motivated state, | 而不是在A型状态下, |
| 2647 | in other words, doing something that's more effortful, | 换句话说,做一些更努力的事, |
| 2648 | even painful, you can rebound yourself | 即使是痛苦,你也可以反弹 |
| 2649 | out of that dopamine trough much more quickly. | 从多巴胺槽里流出来的速度要快得多 |
| 2650 | So what do I mean you want to put yourself | 那是什么意思,你想让自己 |
| 2651 | in a state that's worse than or harder | 在比或者更难的状态下 |
| 2652 | than the state that you're in | 而不是你所处的状态 |
| 2653 | or do something quote unquote more painful? | 或者做点更痛苦的事? |
| 2654 | And here I want to be very clear. | 我想说清楚 |
| 2655 | I'll say this three times, | 我会说三次 |
| 2656 | but I'm going to say it for the first time now. | 但我现在要第一次说 |
| 2657 | When I say more painful, I do not mean doing | 当我说更痛苦的时候 我不是说做 |
| 2658 | any kind of tissue damaging or psychologically damaging | 任何形式的组织损害或心理损害 |
| 2659 | behavior or anything of that sort | 行为或任何类似的事情 |
| 2660 | that's going to render you injured or not well, | 这会让你受伤或不舒服, |
| 2661 | even in the short term. | 即使是短期。 |
| 2662 | That's not what I'm referring to, okay? | 我不是这个意思,好吗? |
| 2663 | Let's just get that one out of the way. | 把那个拿开 |
| 2664 | What I'm referring to is the fact that, for instance, | 我指的是,例如, |
| 2665 | if you're feeling A-motivated, | 如果你觉得有动机 |
| 2666 | but you find yourself cleaning the house | 但你发现自己 清理房子 |
| 2667 | as a way to procrastinate, you can say, | 作为拖延的方法,你可以说, |
| 2668 | well, cleaning the house is harder | 收拾房子比较难 |
| 2669 | than sitting down and doing nothing, | 而不是坐视不理, |
| 2670 | but actually in that moment or in those moments, | 但实际上在那一刻或那些时刻, |
| 2671 | that's not the case or else you wouldn't be doing it. | 事实并非如此 否则你就不会这么做了 |
| 2672 | The reality is that the dopamine system works | 现实是多巴胺系统有效 |
| 2673 | according to what feels hard or easy in the moment. | 根据此刻的感受, |
| 2674 | In other words, if you're feeling A-motivated, | 换句话说,如果你觉得A动机, |
| 2675 | you need to do something and put yourself into a state | 你需要做点什么 把自己变成这样 |
| 2676 | that's harder than the state you're in. | 这比你现在的状况更难 |
| 2677 | So for instance, if you're sitting around | 所以,比如说,如果你坐在周围 |
| 2678 | feeling A-motivated or you find yourself tending to tasks | 感觉A -有动机 或者你发现自己在忙着工作 |
| 2679 | that are irrelevant to the goal | 与目标无关 |
| 2680 | that you really should be focused on, | 你真正应该专注于, |
| 2681 | you need to put your body and mind | 你需要把身体和思想 |
| 2682 | into a state of discomfort quickly. | 进入一种不适的状态 |
| 2683 | And the way to do that is to either engage | 这样做的方式是要么参与 |
| 2684 | in some tangential activity, | 在一些短暂的活动中, |
| 2685 | meaning an activity not related to your goal | 指与你的目标无关的活动 |
| 2686 | that puts your body into a very different state. | 让你的身体变得很不一样 |
| 2687 | So here again, I'll default to the obvious one, | 再说一遍,我还是会默认那个明显的 |
| 2688 | which is something like cold shower or cold immersion, | 这就像冷雨或冷浸, |
| 2689 | which not only increases dopamine long-term | 不仅增加多巴胺的长期 |
| 2690 | or over several hours rather, | 或数小时以上, |
| 2691 | but for most people is experienced as pain. | 但对于大多数人来说,这是痛苦。 |
| 2692 | That pain causes a rebound out of that dopamine trough | 这种痛苦导致多巴胺槽反弹 |
| 2693 | {\fn华文新魏\fs20\bord1\shad0\fsp2\3cHFF8000}比會發生的快 | |
| 2694 | if you had just stayed in that A-motivated state | 如果你只是停留 在A动机状态 |
| 2695 | and waited for it to go away or done something | 等待它消失 或做一些事情 |
| 2696 | like cleaning up that for whatever reason | 喜欢清理,无论出于什么原因 |
| 2697 | felt like it required less friction. | 感觉它需要更少的摩擦。 |
| 2698 | When I say friction, I mean limbic friction. | 我说摩擦是指四肢摩擦 |
| 2699 | Your limbic system is always in this dialogue | 你的四肢系统总是在这个对话框中 |
| 2700 | with your forebrain and limbic friction goes two ways. | 你的前脑和四肢摩擦有两条路 |
| 2701 | Limbic friction can be you're tired | 摩擦会很累的 |
| 2702 | and you don't want to do something. | 你不想做点什么 |
| 2703 | And so you have to quote unquote, motivate to do it, | 所以,你必须引用不引文, 激励做到这一点, |
| 2704 | energize yourself to do it. | 令自力为作. |
| 2705 | Or limbic friction can be that you're nervous | 或四肢摩擦 可能是你紧张 |
| 2706 | and scared and anxious to do something | 害怕和渴望做点什么 |
| 2707 | and you have to calm yourself in order to lean forward | 要保持冷静才能向前倾斜 |
| 2708 | into action in order to do that thing despite the anxiety. | 行动起来 做这件事 尽管焦虑。 |
| 2709 | I realize this can be a little bit confusing as a concept. | 我知道这个概念可能有点混乱 |
| 2710 | So I want to go into a bit more detail. | 所以我想更详细地谈谈。 |
| 2711 | Let's imagine that you or somebody else | 想象一下你还是别人 |
| 2712 | does not like to exercise. | 不喜欢锻炼。 |
| 2713 | You don't want to exercise | 你不想锻炼 |
| 2714 | and you're trying to get your minimum | 你试图得到你的最低 |
| 2715 | of five days per week exercise | 每周5天的演习 |
| 2716 | and you're just not motivated to do it. | 而你只是没有动机这样做。 |
| 2717 | There are a couple of different techniques to doing this. | 这样做有几种不同的技术。 |
| 2718 | Assuming you've taken care of all the baseline stuff, | 假设你已经解决了所有基线问题 |
| 2719 | all the foundational stuff we talked about earlier | 我们之前讨论过的所有基础问题 |
| 2720 | and you're just not getting in gear | 你只是没有装备 |
| 2721 | and you find yourself checking your phone | 你发现自己检查你的手机 |
| 2722 | or maybe you're attending to some tasks. | 或者你正在处理一些任务 |
| 2723 | Obviously those things are quote unquote easier for you, | 很明显,这些事情是引文 难引用的你更容易, |
| 2724 | meaning they cause less limbic friction | 意思是它们引起较少的肢体摩擦 |
| 2725 | than engaging in exercise. | 而不是锻炼。 |
| 2726 | The typical advice would be just exercise for one minute. | 典型的建议只是练习一分钟。 |
| 2727 | Just get one minute of exercise or five minutes | 只要有一分钟的锻炼或五分钟 |
| 2728 | and then use the successful completion | 然后使用成功完成 |
| 2729 | of that one or five minutes as a milestone | 作为里程碑的一到五分钟 |
| 2730 | that allows you to then move to the next milestone. | 这样你就可以进入下一个里程碑。 |
| 2731 | And indeed that approach can work | 这样做确实可行 |
| 2732 | and it's exactly what I'm describing here | 这正是我在这里描述的 |
| 2733 | when I say that you're in a state of lack of motivation | 当我说你没有动力的时候 |
| 2734 | or procrastination or both | 或拖延或两者兼有 |
| 2735 | and you need to put yourself into a more painful, | 你需要让自己更痛苦, |
| 2736 | not less painful state. | 不减痛苦状态。 |
| 2737 | So what do you do? | 那你怎么办? |
| 2738 | You push up against that friction | 你踩着摩擦 |
| 2739 | and you exercise for a short while | 你们暂时的锻炼, |
| 2740 | and then that pops you out of that trough. | 那样你就会从槽里跳出来 |
| 2741 | That's possible, but for a lot of people, | 这是可能的,但对于很多人, |
| 2742 | even that won't be possible | 即使这样也不可能 |
| 2743 | because they just can't get motivated | 因为他们就是没有动力 |
| 2744 | or they do that one minute or five minutes | 或他们这样做 1分钟或5分钟 |
| 2745 | and they're just like, okay, I'm still in the trough. | 他们只是,好吧,我还在槽里。 |
| 2746 | I'm not actually feeling that great. | 我其实没有感觉那么好。 |
| 2747 | In those circumstances, | 在这种情况下, |
| 2748 | it makes sense to do something that's tangential | 做一些不切实际的事很合理 |
| 2749 | to the whole path that you're trying to pursue, | 走向你所追求的整个道路, |
| 2750 | this goal that you're trying to pursue. | 这是你所追求的目标 |
| 2751 | That is, believe it or not, | 也就是说,信不信由你, |
| 2752 | much worse than just being a motivated. | 更糟糕的不仅仅是一个动机。 |
| 2753 | And when I say worse, I don't mean picking some task | 当我说更糟糕的时候,我不是说挑一些任务 |
| 2754 | that normally you don't like to do, | 通常你不喜欢这样做, |
| 2755 | but now you're willing to do. | 但你现在愿意这么做了 |
| 2756 | I mean, literally thinking about | 我的意思是,从字面上考虑 |
| 2757 | what would be worse than being in this state? | 还有什么比现在更糟糕的? |
| 2758 | Again, without causing yourself tissue | 再说一遍,没有引起自己的组织 |
| 2759 | or psychological damage, what would be worse? | 或心理伤害, 会是什么更糟糕? |
| 2760 | Well, cold water would be worse for many people, | 冷水对很多人来说会更糟 |
| 2761 | very cold water. | 非常冷的水,你觉得呢? |
| 2762 | So the key is to figure out something | 所以关键是想个办法 |
| 2763 | that for lack of a better way to put it, really sucks, | 因为没有更好的方法说,真的很糟糕, |
| 2764 | really sucks and yet is safe. | 真的很烂,但还是安全的。 |
| 2765 | And by doing that, you steepen the trough, | 通过这样做, 你陡峭的槽, |
| 2766 | you steepen the slope of the trough, | 你使槽的坡坡, |
| 2767 | which we know brings you back | 我们知道这能把你带回来 |
| 2768 | to your baseline level of dopamine more quickly. | 以更快的速度达到多巴胺的基准水平 |
| 2769 | Now, for some people that will be deliberate cold exposure | 现在,对有些人来说,这是有意的冷暴露 |
| 2770 | through cold shower, ice bath. | 穿过寒冷的淋浴 冰浴 |
| 2771 | And I have to tell you that if you're cringing | 我必须告诉你 如果你相信 |
| 2772 | as I say this, well, then there you go. | 就像我说的,好吧,然后你去那里。 |
| 2773 | You now have a tool that you cringe | 你现在有一个工具 你相信 |
| 2774 | even when you just think about | 即使你只是想着 |
| 2775 | and therefore represents a great tool for you. | 因此,这对你们来说是一个伟大的工具。 |
| 2776 | So if I'm procrastinating to do something | 所以,如果我拖延做点什么 |
| 2777 | I really need to do, | 我真的需要这样做, |
| 2778 | should I just simply wait for that procrastination | 我应该只是等待 拖延 |
| 2779 | to evaporate? | 蒸发? |
| 2780 | No, will it eventually evaporate? | 不,它最终会蒸发吗? |
| 2781 | Maybe, will a deadline eventually surface | 也许,最后的最后期限会浮出水面 |
| 2782 | that will trigger me into an anxious or activated state | 那会让我陷入焦虑或激活的状态 |
| 2783 | that will allow me to complete what needs to be done? | 这将允许我完成需要完成的工作? |
| 2784 | Maybe, hopefully, but better would be to get out | 也许,希望,但最好还是出去 |
| 2785 | of that a motivated state, | 一个有动机的状态, |
| 2786 | that state of procrastination quickly. | 很快的拖延状态 |
| 2787 | And to do so, you need to leverage something that's painful. | 为此,你需要利用痛苦的东西。 |
| 2788 | So for instance, I heard a beautiful lecture recently | 例如,我最近听到一个美丽的演讲 |
| 2789 | done by Dr. Anna Lemke | 由安娜·莱姆克博士完成 |
| 2790 | at Stanford School of Medicine, | 在斯坦福医学院, |
| 2791 | discussing dopamine and some of the things in her book | 讨论多巴胺和一些东西 在她的书 |
| 2792 | and some newer findings as well. | 还有一些新的发现 |
| 2793 | And somebody in the audience asked her the question, | 观众中有人问她这个问题 |
| 2794 | does meditation increase dopamine? | 冥想会增加多巴胺吗? |
| 2795 | Now, earlier we talked about how non-sleep deep rest | 现在,早些时候,我们谈到 如何不睡觉深睡 |
| 2796 | and yoga nidra has been shown in the scientific literature | 尼陀瑜伽在科学文献中被展示 |
| 2797 | to increase dopamine, but I also mentioned earlier | 来增加多巴胺,但我之前也提到过 |
| 2798 | that classic forms of meditation, | 那经典的冥想形式, |
| 2799 | whether eyes open or eyes closed, | 或睁开眼睛,或闭着眼睛, |
| 2800 | so-called open monitoring or closed monitoring meditation, | 所谓公开监测或封闭监测冥想, |
| 2801 | sitting there or lying there and focusing | 坐在那或者躺在那里 集中精神 |
| 2802 | does not increase dopamine levels per se. | 不增加多巴胺含量本身。 |
| 2803 | However, for most people, | 然而,对于大多数人来说, |
| 2804 | especially people who find it hard to meditate | 尤其是那些难以思考的人 |
| 2805 | or who don't do that practice very often, | 或谁不经常这样做, |
| 2806 | meditation is effortful. | 冥想是费力的。 |
| 2807 | Getting into meditation | 进入冥想 |
| 2808 | and staying in meditation is effortful. | 故你应当沉思。 |
| 2809 | So if you find yourself in a state of procrastination, | 所以如果你发现自己处于拖延状态 |
| 2810 | oftentimes a brief five to 10 minute meditation | 经常短暂的五至十分钟冥想 |
| 2811 | where you absolutely do not allow yourself | 在你绝对不允许自己 |
| 2812 | to do anything besides close your eyes, | 做任何事情,除了闭上你的眼睛, |
| 2813 | focus on your breath, | 专心呼吸, |
| 2814 | and when your mind drifts, get back to your breath, | 当你的头脑飘移, 回到你的呼吸, |
| 2815 | is not only extremely difficult and extremely frustrating, | 不仅极其困难和令人沮丧, |
| 2816 | unless you're a well-practiced meditator, | 除非你是一个训练有素的冥想家 |
| 2817 | but it's often difficult and frustrating | 但它常常是困难和沮丧的 |
| 2818 | not just to do, but to get into that practice, | 不只是做, 并且进入实践, |
| 2819 | and not just to get into that practice, | 不仅仅是去练习, |
| 2820 | but to maintain that practice | 但要保持这种做法 |
| 2821 | for that mere five to 10 minutes, | 只有5到10分钟 |
| 2822 | because it's just not a natural state for us to be in. | 因为它只是不是一个自然状态 我们进入。 |
| 2823 | We have to force ourselves. | 我们必须强迫自己。 |
| 2824 | So it is effortful. | 所以这是费力的。 |
| 2825 | In fact, it qualifies as a basically available | 事实上,它符合基本可用的条件 |
| 2826 | almost anywhere, anytime type of effortful activity | 几乎任何地方,任何类型的努力活动 |
| 2827 | that if you dislike it, | 如果你不喜欢它, |
| 2828 | perhaps even as much as some people dislike | 可能和有些人一样讨厌 |
| 2829 | deliberate cold exposure, | 故意冷暴露, |
| 2830 | will then perfect. | 就会完美无缺 |
| 2831 | You now have an additional tool in your kit | 你现在有另一个工具 |
| 2832 | that you can use anytime you are feeling | 你可以随时使用你的感觉 |
| 2833 | a-motivated and procrastinating. | 动机和拖延。 |
| 2834 | Now there are numerous examples I could give, | 现在我可以举出许多例子, |
| 2835 | and hopefully there are numerous examples | 希望有许多例子 |
| 2836 | that you're thinking about. | 你在考虑的 |
| 2837 | The key is to have a short list | 关键是要有一个简短的列表 |
| 2838 | of about five different effortful, | 大约五种努力, |
| 2839 | AKA painful activities that you can employ | 您可从事的AKA痛苦活动 |
| 2840 | anytime you're feeling a-motivated | 每当你觉得有动机的时候 |
| 2841 | or in a state of procrastination, | 或处于拖延状态, |
| 2842 | keeping in mind that the goal is not what you accomplish | 记住目标不是完成 |
| 2843 | inside of that activity, | 在活动范围内, |
| 2844 | although it is important that you actually engage | 虽然你必须实际参与 |
| 2845 | in that activity. | 在那个活动中。 |
| 2846 | I actually have to make myself meditate | 其实我必须让自己沉思 |
| 2847 | in that five to 10 minute bout of effortful | 在那5到10分钟的努力中 |
| 2848 | or painful activity, | 或有痛苦的活动, |
| 2849 | but it's not about achieving an outcome. | 但这不是要取得结果 |
| 2850 | It's about forcing your body and mind | 这是关于强迫你的身心 |
| 2851 | into a deeper state of pain and discomfort. | 进入更深的疼痛和不适状态. |
| 2852 | In other words, taking yourself from that trough | 换句话说,从槽里取走你自己 |
| 2853 | that you're already in | 你已经在 |
| 2854 | and steepening and deepening that trough, | 并陡峭地, |
| 2855 | because in steepening and deepening that trough, | 因为那根茎在陡峭和深处, |
| 2856 | we know that the return from that trough | 我们知道从河槽回来 |
| 2857 | to normal and even elevated levels of baseline dopamine | 至正常甚至更高的基准多巴胺水平 |
| 2858 | is going to be faster and more robust. | 将会更快更强壮 |
| 2859 | And in doing that, you will quickly find yourself | 这样做,你会很快发现自己 |
| 2860 | back into a motivated state, | 回到一个有动机的状态, |
| 2861 | because not only does it teach you | 因为它不仅教你 |
| 2862 | that doing hard things is possible, | 做艰难的事情是可能的, |
| 2863 | that's sort of more of a subjective cognitive learning, | 这更是一种主观的认知学习, |
| 2864 | but it actually taps into the very neurochemical system | 但实际上它会进入神经化学系统 |
| 2865 | that allows you to then feel motivated and capable | 让你觉得有动力和有能力 |
| 2866 | to pursue the larger goal, | 追求更大的目标, |
| 2867 | which is the thing you're really concerned about after all. | 这才是你真正关心的 |
| 2868 | So as is often the case, | 经常这样 |
| 2869 | perhaps always the case on this podcast, | 也许总是这个播客的情况, |
| 2870 | we covered a lot of material. | 我们覆盖了很多材料。 |
| 2871 | We covered dopamine and what it is. | 我们覆盖了多巴胺和它是什么。 |
| 2872 | We talked about the circuitry | 我们谈过电路的事 |
| 2873 | and the different kinds of circuitry, | 和各种轮回, |
| 2874 | focusing mainly on this mesocortical pathway | 重点主要放在中转路径上 |
| 2875 | that is so vitally important to motivation for any goals. | 这对于推动实现任何目标至关重要。 |
| 2876 | Talked about the relationship between peaks and troughs | 谈到高峰与槽之间的关系 |
| 2877 | and baselines and the foundational tools | 基准和基本工具 |
| 2878 | that allow us to set and maintain | 从而使我们能够设定和保持 |
| 2879 | a healthy baseline level of dopamine, | 多巴胺的健康基线水平, |
| 2880 | as well as ways to protect that baseline level of dopamine. | 以及如何保护多巴胺的基线水平。 |
| 2881 | And we talked about how to get ourselves | 我们谈论如何获得我们自己 |
| 2882 | out of states of procrastination and a motivation | 和动机的状态 |
| 2883 | by not just waiting out those troughs and dopamine, | 不只是等待这些槽和多巴胺, |
| 2884 | but actually making those troughs and dopamine steeper | 但实际上使这些槽和多巴胺更陡峭 |
| 2885 | by engaging in things that are effortful | 以勤劳的事发誓, |
| 2886 | and things that we really don't want to do in those moments. | 以及那些我们真正不想做的事 |
| 2887 | Provided that those things are safe, | 只要这些东西安全, |
| 2888 | we can get out of those dopamine troughs more quickly | 我们可以更快地走出多巴胺槽 |
| 2889 | and back to our dopamine baseline or even above baseline. | 回到我们的多巴胺基线 甚至超过基线 |
| 2890 | And we talked about what I really view | 我们谈了我真正看到的 |
| 2891 | as the holy grail of motivation, | 作为动机的圣杯, |
| 2892 | which is to be able to learn to attach reward | 即能学会附加奖励 |
| 2893 | to the effort process itself and to do so | 努力进程本身, |
| 2894 | by not just understanding, | 不光是理解, |
| 2895 | but also learning to subjectively recognize | 也学会主观认识 |
| 2896 | and somatically experience release | 和身体体验发布 |
| 2897 | of these different stressful chemicals within our body. | 这些不同的压力 化学物质在我们体内。 |
| 2898 | I realized this was a lot of information | 我知道这是很多信息 |
| 2899 | and yet throughout, I've tried to highlight tools | 我努力强调工具 |
| 2900 | that you can use that range from behavioral | 你可以使用范围 从行为 |
| 2901 | to nutritional supplementation tools, cognitive tools. | 营养补充工具 认知工具 |
| 2902 | And keep in mind that all of these different segments | 记住,所有这些不同的部分 |
| 2903 | of the podcast as always are timestamps. | 播客总是时间戳 |
| 2904 | So if you feel the need to go back | 如果你觉得有必要回去 |
| 2905 | and listen to any of these in order | 并听其中任何一种话, |
| 2906 | to get clearer understanding, | 为了更清楚地了解, |
| 2907 | we've made that easy to do so. | 我们让这很容易做到这一点。 |
| 2908 | So simply look for the timestamps in the show note captions. | 所以只要在节目注释标题中寻找时间戳即可. |
| 2909 | If you're learning from and or enjoying this podcast, | 如果你正在学习和享受这个播客, |
| 2910 | please subscribe to our YouTube channel. | 请订阅我们的YouTube频道。 |
| 2911 | That's a terrific zero cost way to support us. | 支持我们的代价太低了 |
| 2912 | In addition, please subscribe to the podcast | 此外,请订阅播客 |
| 2913 | 在苹果和Spotify上。 | |
| 2914 | 在苹果和Spotify上, | |
| 2915 | you can leave us up to a five star review. | 你可以让我们做五星级评论 |
| 2916 | If you have questions for me or comments about the podcast | 如果你对播客有疑问或评论 |
| 2917 | or suggestions about topics you'd like me to cover | 或是你希望我讲的专题 |
| 2918 | or guests you'd like me to interview | 或客人,你要我采访 |
| 2919 | on the Huberman Lab podcast, | 在休伯曼实验室播客, |
| 2920 | please put those in the comment section on YouTube. | 请把这些放在YouTube的评论栏目。 |
| 2921 | I do read all the comments. | 我确实阅读了所有的评论。 |
| 2922 | In addition, please check out the sponsors mentioned | 此外,请查看提到的提案国。 |
| 2923 | at the beginning and throughout today's episode. | 在开始和整个今天的剧集。 |
| 2924 | That's the best way to support this podcast. | 这是支持播客的最佳方式. |
| 2925 | During today's podcast and on many previous episodes | 今天播客和前几集节目 |
| 2926 | of the Huberman Lab podcast, we discuss supplements. | 休伯曼实验室播客, 我们讨论补充。 |
| 2927 | While supplements aren't necessary for everybody, | 虽然不是每个人都需要补充 |
| 2928 | many people derive tremendous benefit from them | 许多人从中获益匪浅, |
| 2929 | for things like enhancing sleep, hormone support, | 比如加强睡眠 激素支持 |
| 2930 | focus, and many other aspects of mental health, | 以及精神健康的许多其他方面, |
| 2931 | physical health, and performance. | 身体健康和表现。 |
| 2932 | The Huberman Lab podcast is happy to announce | 休伯曼实验室播客很高兴宣布 |
| 2933 | that we partnered with Momentous Supplements. | 说我们和"时刻补充"合作 |
| 2934 | If you'd like to learn more about the supplements | 如果你想多学点补充品的话 |
| 2935 | mentioned on today's and other episodes | 在今天和其他事件中提到 |
| 2936 | of the Huberman Lab podcast, go to Live Momentous, | 休伯曼实验室播音员,请立即前往现场, |
| 2937 | 拼音为O-U-S,所以limomentous.com slash Huberman. 中国新闻网. | |
| 2938 | If you haven't already signed up | 如果你还没有报名 |
| 2939 | for the Huberman Lab podcast Neural Network Newsletter, | 为休伯曼实验室播客神经网络通讯, |
| 2940 | it's a monthly newsletter that provides summaries | 这是一份每月的通讯 提供摘要 |
| 2941 | of podcast episodes and toolkits. | 播客节目和工具包。 |
| 2942 | Toolkits are summaries and links to specific protocols | 工具包是摘要和与具体协议的链接 |
| 2943 | that you can use that have been discussed | 您可以使用已经讨论过的内容 |
| 2944 | on various podcast episodes. | 在各种播客节目。 |
| 2945 | We have a toolkit for sleep, for neuroplasticity, | 我们有一个工具箱 睡眠,神经弹性, |
| 2946 | for deliberate cold exposure, and much, much more. | 故意冷暴露,还有更多 |
| 2947 | To sign up for the newsletter, | 要报名参加通讯, |
| 2948 | which by the way is completely zero cost, | 顺便说一句,那是零成本, |
| 2949 | 去hupermanlab.com, 去菜单, | |
| 2950 | scroll down to newsletter, and provide your email. | 滚动到通讯,并提供您的电子邮件。 |
| 2951 | We do not share your email with anybody. | 我们不与任何人分享你的电子邮件。 |
| 2952 | Thank you once again for joining us. | 再次感谢你加入我们。 |
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