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求职真相:拿不到面试改简历,拿不到offer改面试

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0:00There's not that many new jobs, but there is this influx of candidates.虽然没有那么多新工作,但有如此大量的候选人涌入.
0:04Some people are just leaving the job force completely, too.有些人也刚完全离开工作队伍
0:06It's just weird, man.这太奇怪了 伙计
0:07It's still a human reading your resume.人类还在读你的简历
0:09Really?真的吗?
0:10Are they reading it faster?他们读得更快吗?
0:11Yes.对
0:12If you're not getting interviews, don't work on your interview skills.如果你没有得到采访, 不要工作你的采访技巧。
0:15If you're getting the interview but not getting the offer,如果你得到采访 但没有得到报价,
0:17it's purely you and your stories and you selling yourself.它纯粹是你和你的故事 而你出卖自己。
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1There's not that many new jobs, but there is this influx of candidates.虽然没有那么多新工作,但有如此大量的候选人涌入.
2Some people are just leaving the job force completely, too.有些人也刚完全离开工作队伍
3It's just weird, man.这太奇怪了 伙计
4It's still a human reading your resume.人类还在读你的简历
5Really?真的吗?
6Are they reading it faster?他们读得更快吗?
7Yes.对
8If you're not getting interviews, don't work on your interview skills.如果你没有得到采访, 不要工作你的采访技巧。
9If you're getting the interview but not getting the offer,如果你得到采访 但没有得到报价,
10it's purely you and your stories and you selling yourself.它纯粹是你和你的故事 而你出卖自己。
11Guys, even before they ask, tell me about yourself.伙计们,即使在他们问起之前, 告诉我自己。
12The interview has started.面试已经开始了
13The real secret is...真正的秘诀是...
14对Net Worth and Chill的支持来自谷歌双子座.
15Hey besties!嘿,贝斯!
16So real talk.所以真正的谈话。
17Starting college feels like getting thrown into adulthood with no tutorial.开始上大学的感觉就像被扔进成年时没有教书
18Suddenly, you're living on your own,突然间 你靠自己生活
19figuring out how to juggle your new classes and responsibilities,想想如何兼顾你的新课程和责任
20and wait, I have a research paper due next week?等等,我下周要写一份研究论文?
21Don't get me wrong, you can do this,别误会,你能做到的
22but having a little help from time to time goes a long way.但有一点点的帮助 不时会很长。
23That's where Google Gemini comes in.谷歌双子座就在这里出现.
24You can use Gemini to help you create an individualized weekly schedule您可以使用双子座帮助您创建个性化的每周日程
25so you can stay on top of your new life,这样你就可以保持你的新生活,
26submit that paper on time,按时提交该文件,
27and still make it to the orientation barbecue.并且还赶到方向烧烤场
28As a student, you can sign up for a full year of Google Gemini Pro Plan for free.作为一名学生,你可以免费报名全年的Google双子座Pro计划.
29Visit Gemini.Google.Students to claim your free student offer today.探访双子座. 谷歌报. 学生们今天要申请免费的学费
30Terms apply.条件适用。
31What's up besties?怎么样?
32Welcome back to another episode of Net Worth and Chill欢迎回到另一集"网络价值与冷"
33与我,你的东道主,薇薇安二世,aka Yerwich BFF,
34and your favorite Wall Street girlie.还有你最喜欢的华尔街女孩
35Looking for a good job in 2026 is like looking for water in the desert.2026年寻找一份好工作就像在沙漠中寻找水一样.
36You think it might be nearby,你认为它可能就在附近,
37but there's no telling how far ahead the next oasis might actually be.但不知道接下来的绿洲会有多远
38The vibes in the employment streets are really weird right now.就业街道的氛围现在很怪异
39Unemployment's down,失业率下降
40but only because people are giving up on job hunting entirely但因为人们放弃了找工作
41and choosing to leave the labor force altogether.选择离开劳动力队伍
42In the past, there was this idea that if you were unhappy at your job过去有个想法 如果你对工作不满意
43or you were unemployed,或者你失业,
44that you could just put on your best suit,你可以穿上你最好的西装
45walk into the nearest office building,走进最近的办公楼,
46slap down your paper resume,拍下你的论文简历,
47and finagle your way into an interview right then and there.直接去面试
48But in a market that feels like there's nowhere else to move,但是在一个市场里 感觉好像没有别的地方可以移动了
49even if you do like your job,即使你喜欢工作
50it's really hard for a lot of people to picture their careers很多人很难想象自己的事业
51as this long, exciting, fulfilling journey.如此漫长,令人兴奋,充满满足的旅程。
52Is it possible to be happy at work anymore?工作上还能快乐吗?
53Well, one man sure thinks so.嗯,一个人肯定这么认为。
54Shodewan is the CEO and founder of WorkHap,肖德旺是WorkHap的首席执行官和创始人,
55the career coaching company with nearly 1 million followers on Instagram.在Instagram上拥有近100万追随者的职业教练公司.
56Not only is Sho here to answer all your questions阿翔不只在这里回答你的问题
57about finding jobs and growing in them,寻找工作并成长于其中,
58he's also a former recruiter and hosts the Forbes Work Hotline podcast,他也是前招募者 并主持福布斯工作热线播客,
59his first book, Get Hired, Get Paid, Get Happy, is available now.他的第一本书,《请客》,《付钱》,《欢乐》,现在有了
60Sho, welcome to Net Worth and Chill.舒,欢迎来到网络价值和冷。
61Thank you, Viv.谢谢你,薇薇
62Thanks for having me.谢谢你邀请我
63What a great intro, man.多么伟大的介绍,男人。
64Let's get into it.进曰.
65Let's do it.贡举志五种 上.
66Okay, so we are going to jump into the deep end to kick us off.好吧,所以我们要跳进深端 以踢我们离开。
67When is the last time you interviewed for a job你最后一次面试是什么时候?
68and what was that process like那个过程是什么样子的
69and how do you think things have changed since then?你觉得从那时起事情有什么变化?
70Good question.问得好
71You know, even just earlier today,你知道,即使是今天早些时候,
72I was in another podcast with Jack Appleby我在另一个播客 杰克·阿普比
73and I feel like even that was like an interview.我觉得那就像面试一样
74Even this is kind of an interview, right?即使是这样的采访,对不对?
75Just the feels of it.只是感觉它。
76The last time I interviewed for a job,我上次面试找工作时
77I would say the closest was probably this book.我想最接近的可能是这本书
78Yeah.对
79Like we know when agents are coming with you就像我们知道特工什么时候跟你来一样
80or publishers are trying to interview for things.或出版商试图采访事物。
81That was probably the last time这可能是最后一次了
82and that was maybe, I don't know, a year, two years ago.也许,我不知道,一年,两年前。
83The last time I had a job job interview, man, that was like,上次我参加工作面试时
84it's been a while.好久不见
85Yeah.对
86It's been a while.好久不见
87But what I do with my clients is like I listen into their interviews.但我对客户的处理就像在听他们的采访
88I do these things.我这样做。
89Dude, interviews are essentially the same as they've always been伙计,采访基本上和以前一样
90but hiring managers are pickier now.但现在招聘经理比较挑剔
91And I don't know if you see this these days我不知道你这些天有没有看到这个
92but hiring managers like want unique things但是,雇用经理喜欢想要独特的东西
93that I didn't go through when I was in the job hunt我在打猎时没有经历
94that maybe you didn't go through when you were job hunting too.也许你在打猎的时候没经过
95What are they looking for?他们在找什么?
96I mean, it's like these specific things that go beyond skills我的意思是,这就像这些特定的东西 超越技能
97like the tech skills.就像技术技能
98They want a little banter.他们想要一点安慰。
99They want like, do you have executive presence?他们想,你有没有行政代理?
100Can I put you-我能让你...
101What the hell is executive presence?什么他妈的是行政存在?
102They can put you in front of a client他们可以把你放在客户面前
103and they're like, they can chill.他们喜欢,他们可以冷。
104Swagger.斯瓦格,你好吗?
105They can relax.他们可以放松。
106A little bit of swag, right?有点夸张吧?
107It's like, okay.这就像,好吧。
108Dude, just like me talking to you right now.伙计,就像我现在跟你说话。
109We're looking eye to eye.我们正互相看
110We're using hands.我们在用手
111People don't do that anymore.人们不再这样做了。
112People don't do eye contact anymore.人们不再做眼睛接触。
113It's like, yeah, I do this.这就像,是的,我这样做。
114And then like immediately go down.然后像马上下去。
115And that's not what companies want.这不是公司想要的。
116They want this.他们想要这个
117They want this vibe, right?他们想要这种气氛,对不对?
118Do you think COVID has something to do with that?你觉得COVID和这事有关吗?
119Yeah, I do.没错
120And I feel bad for Gen Z.我也为Gen Z感到难过.
121I think they have gone the short end of the stick.我认为,他们已经走了短端的棍子。
122I mean, they had school over Zoom.我的意思是,他们有学校过Zoom。
123Zoom school, right?缩小学校,对不对?
124Can you imagine doing your college years through Zoom?你能想象通过Zoom完成你的大学年期吗?
125Dude, that would be the worst experience.老兄,这将是最糟糕的经历。
126No, I was drinking at a frack.不,我喝的是一个裂缝。
127Like, what do you mean?喜欢,你是什么意思?
128You can't drink over Zoom.你不能喝过Zoom。
129Exactly.没错
130You're having fun.你玩得很开心
131You're going out.你会出去的
132You're meeting people.你在和别人见面
133But they didn't get that opportunity.但他们没有得到这个机会。
134So I do feel for them.所以我觉得他们。
135I feel like there's a big chunk of them我觉得有一大堆人
136that don't have that skill.没有这种技能。
137And now it's on them to kind of find it themselves.现在他们要自己找到它
138They don't have the school and the structure to do it.他们没有学校和结构来做.
139Not as many social reps.没有多少社会代表。
140Yeah.对
141And I mean, you know the stats.我的意思是,你知道数据。
142People are drinking less.人饮少.
143People are going to bars.人们要去酒吧。
144I'm definitely not drinking less.我绝对不会少喝酒的
145But other people are drinking less, right?但其他人喝得更少,对吧?
146And that's just what's happening.然此正见.
147I think the millennial in us is still hanging out,我认为我们的千年 仍然挂出,
148going out, meeting people.出去见人
149Speak for yourself.作是语已.
150I'm at home.我在家时.
151Thank you.谢谢
152Come on.来吧。
153A little happier action?更快乐一点?
154Yeah, I'll go to a happy hour.是的,我会去一个快乐的时刻。
155Just one drink.就一杯酒,好吗?
156Yeah.对
157Sure.当然
158OK, gotcha.好吧,来吧。
159But you're meeting people, right?但你是在和别人见面吧?
160Like, yeah.喜欢,是的。
161OK.摆
162Speaking of Gen Z, let's talk a little bit说到Gen Z,我们谈谈
163about the state of the job market today.关于就业市场的现状。
164If you could describe the state of the job market in, like,如果你能描述一下就业市场的状况,比如,
165three to five words, what would you say?三到五个字,你会怎么说?
166I mean, you hit it right in the nail.我的意思是,你打它的权利 在指甲。
167It's weird.这很奇怪。
168Weird.怪怪的。 怪怪的。
169It's weird.这很奇怪。
170There's not that many new jobs for people,人没有那么多新工作
171but there is this influx of candidates.但有这么多候选人
172So now the competition is higher.因此,现在的竞争是更高的。
173But like you said in the intro,但正如你在介绍中所说的,
174some people are just leaving the job force completely, too.有些人也刚完全离开工作队伍
175Trying to be creators, trying to do their own side hustles,试图成为创造者, 试图做他们自己的一面的动作,
176other things.其他东西。
177It's just weird, man.这太奇怪了 伙计
178I don't think it'll be like this forever.我想不会永远这样
179I think we've seen downturns before with the job market.我想我们以前见过就业市场下滑
180It's going to go back up, but right now it's just weird.它会回升,但现在它只是奇怪。
181I don't know how to else explain it.我不知道该怎么解释
182I guess maybe that sounds crazy to me,我想也许这听起来很疯狂,
183of like, oh, they're just choosing他们只是选择
184to leave the job force entirely.完全离开工作队伍。
185Because like, how are you paying your bills?因为,你如何支付你的账单?
186True.没错
187Are people just moving home?人们只是搬家?
188Are they having family support them?他们有家庭赡养吗?
189Like, how's that working?怎么样?
190True.没错
191It's like they're going back home.犹如归家.
192Yeah.对
193They're cutting costs, doing some side hustles, right?他们削减成本, 做一些侧冲,对不对?
194Oh, OK, side hustles.哦,好吧,侧手推车。
195Retail, maybe their own thing.零售,也许他们自己的东西。
196Freelancing.自由舞动。
197If I was, like, if I look at myself,如果我是一样, 如果我看着自己,
198and let's say I don't have work cap,假设我没有工作帽
199and I just quit my job, and I'm just thinking about what to do,我刚刚辞了工作 我在想该怎么办
200I would probably try to move back home.我可能会试着搬回家。
201Call my mom, like, yo, can I move back in?打电话给我妈,像,哟,我可以搬回来吗?
202And then for me, I'm just trying to do anything I can to make some money.然后对我来说,我只是想尽我所能赚钱。
203Like, while I'm building up whatever I'm building up,喜欢,当我建立 无论我建立,
204I'm just trying to make some money.我只是想赚点钱
205And I think if you're watching this,我认为如果你在看这个
206and you have a long gap on your resume,你简历上有很长的缺口
207or you're thinking about, you're in between jobs,或者你在考虑, 你介于工作之间,
208just get some movement in, right, if you're watching this.只要得到一些动作,对,如果你正在看这个。
209But I think that's what a lot of people are missing,但我认为这就是很多人失踪的原因
210is just moving to places, man.就是搬去别的地方
211It's like just getting your body in action.这就像只是让你的身体 行动。
212Because I don't want you to just be apply, apply, apply all day.因为我不想你被申请 申请 申请
213I don't think that's effective anymore.我觉得这已经无效了
214So I want to take a quick pivot,所以我想要一个快速的支点,
215because this show is all about providing our listeners因为这节目是给听众们
216with, like, true actionable advice,与真正的建议一样,
217and how they can improve their lives.以及如何改善他们的生活。
218Yes.对
219So what are some of the most common resume mistakes you tend to see?那么,什么是最常见的 恢复错误 你倾向于看到?
220Because this is the first step in getting that job.因为这是获得这份工作的第一步。
221Yes.对
222How can people fix them?人们怎么可以修复它们?
223Yeah, I mean, especially in 2026, everyone's using AI to write them.是啊,我的意思是,特别是在2026年, 每个人都用AI来写。
224而当某人Zigs, 或每个人Zigs, 我要你Zig。
225I would say more humanness is the X factor right now.我想说更多的人性是X因素 现在。
226And the analogy that I like to use is,我喜欢的类比是,
227let's say you're in the mood for a juicy orange, right?假设你有心情喝多汁的橙子 对吧?
228So like you go to the grocery store,就像你去杂货店一样
229you see all these tangerines, and these nectarines,你看到这些橘子和花蜜,
230and all these oranges in front of you.还有你面前的橙子
231And you see this blue orange in the corner.你看到这个蓝色橙色在角落。
232It's blue?蓝色的?
233蓝s.
234Not like a moldy blue, but like a cool blue.不是像发霉的蓝色,而是酷酷的蓝色。
235Yeah.对
236You're going to pick that baby up.你会去接孩子的
237Yeah.对
238You're going to inspect and be like,你会检查和喜欢,
239yo, what is this blue orange, bro?哟,这是蓝色橙色的,兄弟?
240And you might take it home, but you're just like, yo, that's different.你可能把它带回家, 但你只是喜欢,哟, 这是不同的。
241That's what I want people to do in the job search.这就是我想要人们在寻找工作时做的。
242With their resume, with their applications,他们的简历和申请
243the way they reach out to people, it's like,他们接触人们的方式,就像,
244can you do the different thing than everybody else?你能做和别人不一样的事吗?
245And that's what I think is going to get you results.我认为这会让你得到结果。
246And what are some, like, what are the three big tips for resumes?简历的三大提示是什么?
247Like, should we be putting fun facts on them?像,我们应该把有趣的事实 给他们?
248I'm team summary.我是团队总结。
249Wait, where?等等,哪里? 哪里? 哪里来的?
250At the top.在顶上.
251You put a summary?你做了总结?
252I'm team summary.我是团队总结。
253Not team objective.不是团队目标。
254Not like I, Vivian, too, am looking for a finance job.不像我,薇薇安,也在寻找金融工作。
255But it's like, Vivian, too, 10 plus years of experience,但是这就像,薇薇安,同样, 10加多年的经验,
256Wall Street, da-da-da, I can help you with this.华尔街 我可以帮你
257My main skills are this.我的主要技能是这个。
258So I actually think because recruiters are only giving you six seconds,所以我真的觉得 因为招募者只给你六秒钟
259that first flash of, oh, this is what she's all about,第一次闪光,哦,这就是她的目的,
260that's going to make them notice.这会让他们注意到的
261It's like the LinkedIn about me.这就像链接In关于我。
262A little bit, yeah.一点点,是的。
263Yeah.对
264It like starts off with a hook, though.就像是从钩子开始
265Yeah.对
266But I think you don't need this.但我觉得你不需要这个
267Let's say you're an accountant for 10 years.假设你是十年的会计
268You don't need to say, I'm an accountant for 10 years.你不必说,我做会计十年了
269But it's especially valuable for, like, the pivoters但它特别有价值,像, 支柱
270or people who have had a career gap or just something different.或者那些有职业差距或只是不同的东西的人
271Yeah.对
272It's like selling yourself for the skills这就像出卖自己 技能
273so that when the recruiter reads this, they're like,所以当招募者读到这个时 他们就会说
274oh, yeah, Viv, show, can do this job.哦,是的,薇薇,显示,可以做到这一点。
275And then they'll read more on your resume.然后他们会读更多 在你的简历。
276Is there anything else specific that we need to be adding into our resumes now我们现在需要在简历中增加什么具体内容吗?
277that so many companies, like, the first pass of resumes这么多公司,喜欢, 第一次通过简历
278isn't even being reviewed by a human?连人类审查都没有吗?
279There's some sort of AI scraper tool that's reviewing these resumes?有某种AI刮刀工具 正在审查这些简历?
280Yeah, there's a lot of these videos going on对,这些视频很多
281of how companies are using AI for everything.公司如何利用AI的一切。
282I have a lot of recruiter friends.我有很多招募者的朋友
283I have a lot of hiring manager friends.我有很多雇佣经理的朋友
284It's rare.难得.
285It's still a human reading your resume.人类还在读你的简历
286Really?真的吗?
287I know.我知道,我记得
288Everyone's saying, dude, bots are taking over.大家都说,伙计,兄弟要接手了
289Recruiters are still reading resumes.招生人员仍在阅读简历.
290Are they reading them faster?他们读得更快吗?
291Yes.对
292Six seconds, you said.6秒钟,你说。
293Six seconds.六秒钟。
294Or maybe they're not reading some at all.也许他们根本不在读
295Maybe, right?也许吧?
296If they get a thousand resumes, maybe they're looking at the first few hundred如果他们得到一千份简历, 也许他们在看前几百份
297and be like, all right, well, I found enough to interview better luck last time.好吧,好吧,好吧,我发现足够的采访 更好的运气上次。
298It could be that.这可能是。
299So it is sometimes a speed game, like first come first serve.因此,它有时是一个速度游戏, 像先来先服务。
300It's a speed game.速度游戏.
301It's a luck game.这是一个幸运游戏。
302I mean, if I'm a recruiter, I get a referral from someone I trust, Vivian, too.如果我是招募者 我也会从我信任的人那里得到推荐 薇薇安
303Yeah, I'm going to take that more seriously than the thousands of resumes是啊,我会更认真对待这一点 比几千份简历
304I'm getting in this pile.我得到这个堆。
305Like, there's so many different factors that play along with it.像,有很多不同的因素 发挥与它。
306Yeah.对
307OK, well, let's move on.好吧,我们继续吧。
308Say we have our resume in good shape, now we move on to the interviewing process.假设我们的简历是好的, 现在我们开始面试过程。
309Say we've gotten an interview.说我们得到了采访。
310Do you have a foolproof strategy when it comes to interviewing,面试时你是否有一个防愚的策略
311especially for people who are like socially anxious?特别是社会焦虑的人?
312We talked about the human side, right?我们谈过人际关系 对吧?
313Yeah.对
314I think it just it's more important than ever.我觉得这比以前更重要
315It's like just being human and we can go into it.这就像只是人,我们可以去。
316But I will say there's a golden rule about interviews.但我会说 有一条黄金规则 关于采访。
317If you're not getting interviews, don't work on your interview skills.如果你没有得到采访, 不要工作你的采访技巧。
318You should be working on your resume skills.你应该努力学习你的复健技巧
319But if you're getting the interview but not getting the offer,但如果你得到采访 但没有得到报价
320it's purely you and your stories and you selling yourself.它纯粹是你和你的故事 而你出卖自己。
321So I think you have to figure out where in the job search you are.所以,我认为你必须找出 在寻找工作你在哪里。
322So again, you're not getting interviews.再说一遍,你不会接受采访的
323It's your resume.这是你的简历。
324Maybe add in that summary, maybe add in the key skills.也许在总结中加入,也许在关键技能中加入。
325Go relevant for the role.与角色相关
326If you're getting five to ten interviews, you're on the right track.如果你得到5到10个面试, 你是正确的轨道。
327Now it's about how to elevate your interview skills.现在该如何提升你的面试技巧了
328OK, so what is the process?好吧,是什么过程?
329It's like getting the right resume, getting the first round interview,这就像得到正确的简历, 得到第一轮采访,
330making it to the actual hiring manager, maybe like a technical interview.做给真正的招聘经理, 也许像技术面试。
331It could be.可能会
332And then the offer?然后是报价?
333I mean, now companies are kind of they're kind of being lame我的意思是,现在公司是有点 他们有点逊
334and they're going through like five, seven, ten rounds of interview.他们正在经历 像五,七,十轮采访。
335I mean, you've heard the stories, right?我的意思是,你听说过的故事,对不对?
336We had a client who got an offer as like head of HR, seven rounds, right?我们有一个客户 得到了一个报价 像HR的头,七轮,对不对?
337And it took, I don't know, four or five months all through just one company.花了4到5个月的时间,我也不知道, 仅仅通过一个公司。
338If it was me after the fourth round, I'm like, dude, come on.如果是我在第四回合后,我就像,伙计,来吧。
339You know I can do the job.你知道我能办到的
340Do you like me?你喜欢我吗?
341Yes or no?是还是不是?
342Yeah, come on now.是啊,来吧。
343But that's what companies are doing.但公司正在这样做。
344OK, let's do just a quick role play of an interview.好吧,让我们做一个简单的角色 扮演采访。
345Let's say I am interviewing for a marketing manager role at a book publisher.假设我在书店采访市场经理
346OK,OK。 OK,OK。 OK。
347Are you the candidate or the interviewer?你是候选人还是面试者?
348I want to be a candidate.我想成为一个候选人。
349You're the candidate.你是候选人。
350OK, so I'm the interviewer.好吧,所以我是采访者。
351OK, gotcha, gotcha.好吧,得到的,获得的。
352So this is the first round interview.因此,这是第一轮面试。
353What do you think is one of the most common first round questions you're going to ask me?你认为你最常问的第一轮问题是什么?
354OK, I mean, I'm going to ask you to tell me about yourself.好吧,我的意思是,我要问你 告诉我关于你自己。
355And the thing is, I might not even have your resume with me.问题是 我可能连你的履历都没有
356I know Vivian is here for the job, and maybe I have two other candidates right after Vivian我知道薇薇安是来这工作的 也许我还有两位候选人
357who's going to come here for the job.谁会来这里工作。
358But I don't know Vivian from the other candidates.但我不认识其他候选人的薇薇安
359Maybe I've done a quick scan on her resume, but maybe I forgot to print it out.也许我对她简历做了快速扫描 但也许我忘了打印
360So it's even just that.因此,它甚至只是这样。
361This question of like, tell me about yourself,说说你自己
362you have to assume that they know zero about you.你得假设他们对你一无所知
363But this is not a time to tell me your life story.但现在还不能告诉我你的生活故事
364It's like, why Vivian can do the job right now?为什么薇薇安现在可以做这个工作?
365Like, if I don't have anything about Vivian on my on front of me,如果我面前没有薇薇安的事
366what do I need to know that makes me feel good that she can do the job?我需要知道什么 让我感觉很好 她可以做这个工作?
367That's really what an interview is all about.这才是面试的目的
368How would you structure the answer?你会如何安排答案?
369Like, how would you guide me in responding to that to do a good job?喜欢,你如何引导我 回应这一点 做一个好的工作?
370I like it.我喜欢
371OK, so back up.好吧,所以备份。
372Marketing manager role for a big publishing company.为一家大出版公司担任营销经理.
373OK, cool.好吧,凉爽。
374And let's just say for those who are maybe making a pivot,这么说吧,也许那些 做支点的人,
375Vivian has never worked in publishing before, right?薇薇安以前从没做过出版工作 对吧?
376So like, I'm going for a publishing job.所以,我要去 出版工作。
377I used to be a marketing manager for a beauty brand.我以前是美容品牌的营销经理.
378Yes, that's great.是的,这是伟大的。
379And now I want to be the marketing lead at this big time book publisher.现在我想成为这个大时代书籍出版商的营销领袖.
380Yes, that's great.是的,这是伟大的。
381That's great.赞曰.
382And first of all, the fact that she got this interview in the first place首先,她得到了这个采访 首先
383means this guy, the interviewer, is confident that she can do the job.意思是这个家伙, 采访者, 有信心 她可以做的工作。
384So let's also set that story.所以,让我们也设定这个故事。
385So let's say we start, right?我们开始吧?
386And Vivian comes in.薇薇安进来了
387Naturally, the hiring manager will probably lead the interview.自然,招聘经理可能会领导面试.
388They'll probably say like, hey, like, welcome in, handshake, you walk in.他们会说,嘿,喜欢,欢迎进来,握手,你走进来。
389Yeah.对
390And then when you take your seat, that's when they'll say,然后当你坐在你的座位, 那时他们会说,
391hey, Viv, tell me about yourself.嘿,薇薇,跟我说说你自己
392But guys, even before they ask, tell me about yourself, the clock has started.但是,男人,即使他们问, 告诉我关于你自己, 时钟已经开始。
393The interview has started, right?面试已经开始了吧?
394Like them going to the waiting room, shaking your hand,就像他们去候车室 和你握手
395asking if you want a cup of coffee.问要不要喝杯咖啡
396The interview has started.面试已经开始了
397So if I'm Viv, I'm like, yeah, things have been great.所以,如果我VIV, 我很喜欢, 是的,事情一直很好。
398The commute is nice.通勤不错
399Oh, this office is so cool.哦,这办公室太酷了。
400Yeah, a warm water is fine.是啊,热水是罚款。
401Just a little banter, right?只是有点不妥,对吧?
402A little banter.略释.
403Be normal.正常点
404Be human.作人间.
405Yeah.对
406Have that connection.有这种联系。
407And then they're going to ask you, all right, Viv, like tell me about yourself.然后他们会问你,好吧,薇薇, 像告诉我关于你自己。
408And that's when you just want to start off with your hook.那时你只想从钩子开始
409So I don't want you to say, hi, I'm Vivian too.所以我不想让你说,你好,我也是薇薇安。
410I went to UChicago.我去了芝加哥
411I had five jobs before this and I'm now marking this我之前有五份工作,现在我要做这个标记
412and I really want to get into this.我真的想 进入这个。
413Yeah.对
414They know that.他们知道这一点。
415They don't want to hear that.他们不想听到这个。
416Okay.摆
417Because that's already here.因为那已经在这里了。
418It's like, my name is Viv and if I can go back in time,就像 我叫薇薇 如果我能回到过去
419I would have loved to start my career in an old things book.我本想用一本旧书开始我的事业
420I'm a big reader and I love the intersection of books我是一个大读者 我喜欢书的交叉
421and storytelling.讲故事
422That's why I think as a marketing manager for Penguin, for whatever,所以我想当企鹅的营销经理
423I bring XYZ skills that I don't think anyone else can.我带来了XYZ的技巧,我想其他人都做不到.
424In my last role as a beauty brand, I did blah, blah, blah, blah.在我作为美容品牌的最后一个角色中,我做了一些诸如此类的事情.
425我做了ABC。 我做了ABC。
426And that's why I think with all these things considered, I'd be a great fit here.这就是为什么我思考这些事情, 我会是一个非常适合这里。
427But you're starting off with that hook of like, this is what I do.但你要从钩子开始,这是我的工作。
428This is what I do.这就是我的工作。
429Okay.摆
430Even though you're pivoting, you don't tell people like,尽管你很挑剔,你不会告诉别人喜欢,
431yeah, I'm transitioning into this and I really love this opportunity and please hire me.是的,我正在向这个转变 我真的很喜欢这个机会 请雇用我
432It's like, dude, you're not begging, bro.这就像,伙计,你不乞求,兄弟。
433It's like, I'm the person you're looking for and here I am.就像,我是你要找的人 而我在这里。
434Wow.珃
435Okay.摆
436We start off with a position of strength.我们从实力开始
437There it is.就是这样
438Now, okay.现在,好吧。
439So we're having a good interview.所以我们有一个很好的采访。
440I have just answered the question of, tell me about yourself.我刚刚回答了一个问题, 告诉我关于你自己。
441I've crushed it.我压碎了它。
442Things are going well.事情进展顺利。
443We're having a good chat.我们聊得很开心
444Yes.对
445You hit me with one of the scariest questions, which is,你用一个最可怕的问题打我,那就是,
446what would you say is your biggest weakness?你说你最大的弱点是什么?
447Okay.摆
448Everybody hates this question.每个人都讨厌这个问题。
449Yeah.对
450How do I answer it?我该怎么回答?
451Fair, fair.公平 公平 公平 公平 公平 公平
452Again, we already know what we're not going to say.再说一遍 我们已经知道我们不会说什么了
453I'm a perfectionist.我是一个完美主义者。
454I work too hard.我工作太费劲了
455I'm the first one in, last one out.我是第一个进,最后一个出。
456Lame.废话
457It's like, dude, rolling your eyes, right?这就像,伙计,滚动你的眼睛,对不对?
458I actually want you to use a real weakness.我其实希望你用一个真正的弱点
459I think this is the hot take where it's like, it doesn't have to be about the job, man.我觉得这是最热的一招 就像,它不一定是 关于工作,男人。
460I think it's okay to use a real weakness because it's just human a human, man.我觉得使用真正的弱点是正常的 因为它只是人类,男人。
461If it's me, again, let's flash fast forward five, seven years ago如果又是我的话,让我们在五年,七年前快速前进
462when I'm looking for a job, right?我在找工作的时候,对吧?
463I would probably say, you know, I've had lots of great experiences throughout my career.我可能会说,你知道, 我有很多伟大的经历 在我整个职业生涯。
464I've been able to touch this.我都能摸到这个
465I've been able to touch that.我能够摸到它
466I think a skill that I've been trying to work on is how to talk to more senior folks.我想,我一直在尝试的一种技巧 是怎样和更多的老年人说话。
467I think I'm great with peers.我觉得我和同伴相处得很好
468I think I'm great with my junior.我觉得我和我的初中很好
469I'm great with my manager, but when it's my boss's boss, I shrink up.我和我的经理关系很好 但当是我老板的老板时 我就会收缩
470So one way that I'm trying to get out of my shell因此,我试图摆脱我的壳的一种方式
471is trying to be the first one to raise my hand and tell me all this.试图成为第一个举起我的手 告诉我这一切。
472So you want to tell what your real weakness is所以你想告诉你真正的弱点是什么
473and then give me a little bit of how you're working on it.然后给我一点你的工作原理
474It doesn't have to be this polished thing,没必要是这种磨光的东西
475but dude, I'd rather connect with you as the human.但伙计,我宁愿与你联系 作为人类。
476It's OK for you to have weakness.你没有弱点也没关系
477Dude, we all kind of suck at something, right?哥们,我们都吸的东西,对不对?
478Yeah.对
479OK, wait, wait, wait.OK,等等,等等,等等,别这样
480Let me try one.让我试试
481OK.摆
482So my big weakness is, you know, transparently,所以我最大的弱点是,你知道,透明,
483I find that sometimes I'm not great at time management.我发现有时我不擅长管理时间
484I often run a little bit late in my personal life.我的个人生活经常有点晚
485I'm a little bit of an optimist forever,我永远有点乐观
486and I think I can get more done in the time that I have.我想我可以做更多的工作 在我有的时间。
487That said, it has been incredibly helpful to have the Google Suite这么说来 有了谷歌套件 很有帮助
488and a calendar and being able to time block和日历,并能够挡时
489has allowed me to give myself a set amount of time to work on things.允许我给自己一定的时间去处理事情。
490And if I can't get them done in that set amount of time,如果我不能在这么长的时间里完成它们
491I'm able to schedule more time later to finish them我以后可以安排更多时间完成它们
492while still making it to my meetings on time.还要准时赶到会议
493Dude, great structure.哥们 结构不错
494Yes.对
495But can I just say something?但我能说点什么吗?
496Yeah, give me the feedback.是啊,给我反馈。
497Time management, dude, they're like, oh, we need someone on time, man.时间管理,伙计,他们喜欢, 哦,我们需要有人准时,伙计。
498Oh, OK, they don't want that.哦,OK,他们不希望。
499That's a bad one, guys.这可不妙,伙计们
500Don't do that one.别那样
501I think it's like the great structure.我觉得这就像伟大的结构。
502You're like, hey, too honest, don't do that one.你就像,嘿,太诚实, 不要这样做。
503Yes, sometimes you've got to peel back a little bit.是的,有时你必须 剥回一点点。
504I think the time management one,我认为时间管理之一,
505maybe saying that you're a little disorganized,也许说你有点乱
506that can also be a red flag.也可以是红旗
507They're like, we'll do this as a project manager role, bro.他们就像,我们会做一个项目经理的角色,兄弟。
508We need that.我们需要这个
509So you want to be a little honest, but not too honest about everything.所以,你想有点诚实, 但不要太诚实的一切。
510That structure, here's a weakness, here's how I've learned from it那个结构,这里有一个弱点,这就是我如何从中吸取教训的
511and what I'm doing now, that's key.和我现在在做什么, 这是关键。
512OK, great.好吧,伟大的。
513All right, guys, you heard it here.好了,伙计们,你们听到了
514Do not say that you're a bad time manager不要说你是一个糟糕的时间经理
515if you're going for an organizational role.如果你要去组织角色。
516Yes, yeah.对,对。
517OK, so we go through the rest of the interview.好吧,我们通过其余的采访。
518Everything's going great.一切顺利
519Yes.对
520It's probably like two thirds of the way through the interview now.现在大概是面试的三分之二了
521Cool.凉爽。
522And then they hit you with a, so what questions do you have for me?然后他们打了你一个, 那么你有什么问题给我?
523Yes.对
524What are we asking?我们在问什么?
525Classic, classic question.经典,经典问题.
526And they're going to ask you.他们会问你的
527Yeah.对
528Going back to what people, what companies are looking for,回到人们, 公司寻找的,
529companies don't just want somebody.公司不只是想要一个人。
530I know it's annoying, but companies don't just want someone我知道这很烦人 但公司不只是想要人
531who treats us as a job.他把我们当工作
532Lame.废话
533I know, we just want to do, we want to work,我知道,我们只是想做,我们想工作,
534we want to get paid and we want to get out.我们想得到报酬,我们想出去。
535But companies don't want that.但公司不希望这样。
536Companies want enthusiasm and energy and excitement for this role.公司需要热情、精力和刺激来发挥这一作用。
537A new player on the kickball team.踢球队新球员.
538Yes, as entered, right?是的,输入,对不对?
539So how can you show that?那你怎么能证明?
540It's often with the questions you have for this person.常带着你对这个人的疑问
541So, OK, let's just flip the script just a little bit.所以,好吧,让我们只是翻 剧本只是一点点。
542I am a candidate for Vivian Tu's Net Worth and Chill podcast.我是Vivian Tu的网络价值和Chill播客的候选人。
543OK.摆
544我试图成为Net Worth and Chill的营销分析师.
545So if I'm asking Vivian Tu questions, I'm not asking her questions.所以,如果我问薇薇安·图的问题, 我不是问她的问题。
546What are your thoughts about the podcast industry你对播客业有什么看法?
547and how do you think it's going to change in the next 10 years?未来十年会怎样改变呢?
548Yeah.对
549That's too general.这太笼统了
550I could ask that question to any podcast, but I could ask Viv.我可以问任何播客, 但我可以问薇薇。
551Viv, you've been now doing four seasons of Net Worth and Chill.薇薇,你已经做了四季的网络价值和冷。
552How has season one changed from season four第一季怎么从第四季开始改变
553and what are your next steps for season five?第五季的下一步是什么?
554But it's like so targeted for Viv.但它就像如此目标Viv。
555Now I know you know how many seasons we've had.现在我知道你知道有多少季节了
556There you go.给你。
557And you actually care about how the podcast keeps growing.你实际上关心播客是如何成长的。
558Exactly.没错
559And only Vivian Tu can answer her take.只有薇薇安才会这样 Tu可以回答她的意见.
560It's like, yeah, this is my podcast and this is what I've seen这就像,是的,这是我的播客 这是我见过的
561and this is how I think it can change.这就是我认为它可以改变。
562It makes you feel good.这让你感觉很好。
563Oh, this person stalked me a little bit in a good way, right?哦,这个人跟踪我 一点点的方式,对不对?
564It's like, OK, they've interested enough to research my stuff就像,OK,他们已经对研究我的东西感兴趣了
565and now ask me a smart question about it.现在问我一个聪明的问题
566I think that's the way to stand out.我认为这就是突出的方式。
567OK.摆
568We have to personalize those questions.我们必须把这些问题个性化。
569Personalize to only the hiring manager can ask.个性化到只有招聘经理可以问.
570OK.摆
571I think a big question that a lot of creators will say is like,我认为一个大问题 很多创造者会说,
572what is a star performer and how did they do things to be a star performer?明星表演者是什么 他们如何做事情 成为明星表演者?
573That's a fine question.问曰.
574I think it's not a bad question.我认为这不是一个坏问题。
575But again, you can ask that question to any hiring manager再说一遍,你可以问这个问题给任何招聘经理
576and they're going to have a take.然后他们就要拍了
577But then if I'm again, I'm asking Vivian Tu.但是,如果我再次, 我问薇薇安图。
578Vivian, I've seen Grace from your team.薇薇安,我见过葛蕾丝
579I've seen Jenna from your team and they're killers.我见过你手下的珍娜 他们是杀手
580What do you think that Grace does differently that I can learn from?你觉得Grace能从我身上学到什么?
581So now I'm name dropping, right?所以,现在我名字下降,对不对?
582So then Viv's like, wait, oh, you met Grace.那么薇薇就想,等等, 哦,你遇到了葛蕾丝。
583Oh, you met Jenna and you met all these people.哦,你遇见珍娜,你遇见了所有这些人。
584So now it's like the same question, but now personalizing for Viv.所以,现在它就像同一个问题, 但现在个性化的Viv。
585And now it seems like, you know, he knows me, he gets us already.现在看来 他认识我 他已经了解我们了
586These little factors that make a difference.这些小因素 产生了变化。
587Oh, OK.哦,没事。
588So this is kind of a spooky part.所以这有点吓人
589Yeah.对
590We come up on our time.我们赶上时间了。
591OK.摆
592And they're like, all right, well, thank you so much for coming in.他们喜欢,好吧,嗯,非常感谢你 进来。
593What is the protocol here?协议是什么?
594We're shaking hands and I'm just on my way out or are we still sending paper thank you notes?我们在握手 我正要出去呢 还是还要寄纸来谢谢?
595Are we sending email thank you notes?我们发送电子邮件 谢谢笔记?
596Like, how do I wrap this up in a bow?我该怎么用弓包起来?
597All of that.这一切。
598But, dude, you've seen the videos of the coffee cup test, right?但你看过咖啡杯测试的视频吧?
599The what?那个什么?
600Have you seen the coffee cup test?你看过咖啡杯测试吗?
601No, what is that?不,这是什么?
602OK, well, now there's this thing going on where companies will see how you handle the coffee cup.好了,好了,现在有一个事情 在那里,公司会看到你如何处理咖啡杯。
603So, Grace, thank you for giving me this water, which is perfect for this.Grace 谢谢你给我这水 这水很适合喝
604But at the beginning of the interview, they're like, Vivian, do you want a cup of water?但是在采访开始时,他们就像,薇薇安,你想喝杯水吗?
605Yeah, I'd be like, oh, yeah, I'd love some water.是啊,我会像, 哦,是啊,我想一些水。
606Sure, I'll get some water.当然,我会得到一些水。
607You get some water.喝点水吧
608The interview has gone well.采访进展顺利.
609You shake hands.你握个手
610Thank you so much.非常感谢
611They'll say you'll hear from us XYZ days and you move on your merry way, right?他们会说,你会听到我们的消息 XYZ的日子, 你移动你的快乐的方式,对不对?
612You're maybe going to go home.你也许要回家。
613You're like excited.你就像兴奋。
614You're going to send that thank you email.你要寄封谢谢邮件
615But what you do with that coffee cup?你拿咖啡杯怎么办?
616Is that coffee cup there?那是咖啡杯吗?
617Is it unwashed?还没洗干净吗?
618Is it just sitting there?它只是坐在那里吗?
619It's a crazy, ridiculous test.这是一个疯狂,荒谬的测试。
620But now there's studies coming out.但是现在有研究出来了。
621Companies are like looking for these things that if you didn't say, oh, thank you again for the coffee.公司喜欢寻找这些东西 如果你没有说, 哦,谢谢你的咖啡。
622Should I bring it back to the lobby or where can I take this?我该把它带回大堂 还是我把它带去哪?
623It might disqualify you for the role, which is crazy.它可能会剥夺你的角色资格, 这太疯狂了。
624Just crazy.只是疯了。
625I will say I think it's a very minority of companies who are like testing for these things,我想说,我认为这是极少数的公司 谁喜欢测试这些东西,
626but it's still it's crazy.但还是很疯狂
627They want you to be conscientious.他们希望你认真行事
628They want you to see little tasks, little things.他们希望你看到小任务,小事情。
629There's also a test where like if they drop a piece of paper and just see how you react to it,也有一个测试,如果他们 掉一张纸,只是看看你的反应,
630if you like make a joke about it, if you pick it up and offer it back,如果你喜欢开个玩笑 如果你捡起来还给我
631or if you just like sit still and just wait for them to pick it up.或者如果你只是喜欢静静地坐着 等待他们捡起来
632Yeah, these little things.是啊,这些小东西。
633It's these little things.这是这些小东西。
634My God, these like mind games.我的上帝,这些就像思维游戏。
635I know.我知道,我记得
636Okay, so it's weird.好吧,所以这很奇怪。
637What was our takeaway?我们的外卖是什么?
638Never accept the water.绝不接受水
639Don't even bring the coffee there.别把咖啡拿过来
640Just stay thirsty.只要保持口渴。
641You're good.你很不错。
642You don't need the water.你不需要这水
643Let's not do all that.让我们不要做这一切。
644So hilarious that I'm about to say this.真好笑,我要说这个
645I want to pivot, but okay, say I'm applying for a job that I'm only like semi qualified for我想做点什么,但好吧, 说我要申请一份我完全有资格的工作
646in an industry that I have never worked in before.在一个行业,我从来没有工作过。
647We talked about this a little bit, but the big pivot.我们谈了一点,但大中枢。
648How do I make people take me seriously as a candidate?我该如何让别人把我当候选人认真对待?
649And I heard you have a special little acronym method that we can use for this.我听说你有一个特别的小缩略语方法 我们可以用来做这个。
650Yes, but the real secret is think about the pivot.是的,但真正的秘诀是思考 关键。
651It's like Fight Club.这就像战斗俱乐部。
652Don't talk about Fight Club.别提拳击俱乐部了
653You don't talk about the pivot.不说支点.
654I don't want Vivian to come in as a candidate and says,我不想薇薇安作为候选人进来说
655I worked in X and I'm trying to pivot into this.我在X公司工作,我正努力把事情搞砸
656I don't want to hear that.我不想听到这个。
657Because if I'm interviewing this candidate, I already think she can do the job.因为如果我面试这个候选人, 我已经认为她可以做这个工作。
658So now it's just to affirm that.所以,现在它只是确认这一点。
659So again, let's use the example again.所以,让我们再用一个例子。
660You worked in beauty and now you're trying to do in publishing.你在美术界工作,现在你想在出版界工作。
661All I'm trying to focus on is how I can bring value to this role.我唯一想关注的就是如何给这个角色带来价值.
662And I don't even really need to hear why beauty is so different or why it's the same.我甚至不需要听到为什么美丽如此不同 或者为什么它是一样的。
663It's like I've done this.这就像我已经做了这一点。
664I've scaled this and I can have the skills to scale this as well.我缩放过这个,我也有这个技能
665But the framework that I like to teach is called PDR.但我喜欢教的框架叫做PDR。
666Paint the picture, go into the details, and then relate it to the role.画画,深入细节,然后与角色相关.
667So for any interview question, paint, details, relate.所以对于任何采访问题,油漆,细节,关联。
668PDR.共和国
669So for any interview question you get, you don't want to just immediately go into detail.所以对于任何你得到的采访问题, 你不希望只是 立即去详细。
670So like, let me give you an example.所以,让我给你一个例子。
671Let's say the question is, Viv, tell me about your data analytics skills.假设问题在于 薇薇 告诉我你的数据分析能力
672So let's just say that's a classic question about a marketing analytics manager role.这么说吧 这是一个关于营销分析经理角色的经典问题.
673Most candidates says like, yeah, my data analytics skills.大多数候选人都说我的数据分析能力
674I know Python.知彼菩萨.
675I've done SQL.我已经做了SQL。
676I also got a certification in this.我也得到了这个认证。
677It's detail, detail, detail.其详,详,详.
678Where paint the picture starts would be like, oh, that's a great question.画画开始的地方会是, 哦,这是一个伟大的问题。
679You know, I think data is such a core element of doing my job as a marketing manager.我觉得数据是我做营销经理工作的核心要素
680And it's something that I really pride myself in my last role.这是我在上一个角色中真正骄傲的东西。
681You just paint the picture now.你现在就画画
682Yeah.对
683Now they're like, okay, like I'm intrigued.现在他们喜欢,好吧, 像我感兴趣。
684And then you go into details.然后你再详谈
685In my last campaign, we actually used Python to do XYZ.在我上次的竞选中,我们实际上用Python来做XYZ.
686And analytics is one of the things I, and then you just go into your details.分析是其中之一 我,然后你只 进入你的细节。
687Okay.摆
688And then I saw, so now it's the R part, right, to relate.然后,我看到了,所以现在它是 R 部分,正确的,关联。
689I saw that this role requires heavily some data skills and lead a team of three analysts.我看到这个角色需要大量的数据技能,并领导一个由三名分析师组成的团队。
690That's really what I've done throughout my entire career.这是我整个职业生涯中所做的
691And I'm really excited for this role.我真的很兴奋这个角色。
692P. D. R. (英语).
693You want to do that for all your questions.你想为所有的问题这样做。
694Okay.摆
695P. D. R. (英语).
696Your new favorite beer.你最喜欢的新啤酒。
697Yeah, yes.对,对。
698Yeah.对
699Okay.摆
700So continuing with our role playing.继续发挥我们的作用。
701Yes.对
702Now we've gone through this interview process.现在我们经历了这次面试
703It's gone really well.已经很顺利了
704We've met with like a gazillion people.我们遇到的像一群人
705Finally, finally, finally, finally, we get to the end.最后,最后,最后,我们到达了尽头。
706Okay.摆
707And you're like, hey, Vivian.而你就像,嘿,薇薇安。
708We'd like to, we'd like to extend you an offer to join our team.我们想,我们想给你一个提议 加入我们的团队。
709In my experience, the hiring manager or the HR business person will call you根据我的经验, 招聘经理或HR的商人会打电话给你
710and give you like overall a number on the phone.并给你像 总体数字在电话。
711Yes.对
712Now what do I do?现在怎么办?
713Yes.对
714Do I go yes?我会去吗?
715Do I go no?我不去吗?
716Yeah.对
717How do I handle this?我怎么处理?
718It's a great question.问曰.
719And yes, if I typically, if I'm the recruiter or HR or hiring manager,是的,如果我通常, 如果我是招聘者或HR或招聘经理,
720it's usually the HR.这通常是HR。
721They're going to say, Viv, they might not even email you, right?他们会说,薇薇,他们可能甚至不 电子邮件你,对不对?
722They just like call you from the number they've been calling you.他们只是喜欢给你打电话 从他们一直打你的号码。
723Viv, hey, you have time to chat?薇薇,嘿,你有时间聊天吗?
724Yeah, what's up?是啊,怎么样?
725And thank you for doing my voice.谢谢你做我的声音。
726And like, good news.和一样,好消息。
727We got you an offer.我们给你一个报价。
728And then from there, right?然后从那里,对不对?
729Like they're gauging excitement too.就像他们在衡量兴奋程度一样
730Yeah.对
731Like, yeah, okay, cool.像,是的,没关系,很酷。
732And then what's the offer?然后是什么报价?
733Or they're probably going to start off and they're going to tell you.或者他们可能要开始告诉你
734The offer is 150K.报价为150K.
735We want you to start in a month and hear the benefits, hear the perks.我们希望你一个月后开始 听到好处,听到好处。
736Sound good to you?听起来不错吧?
737What they're trying to do is they're trying to close you on the phone.他们试图做的是 他们试图关闭你的电话。
738Yeah.对
739The recruiter is a salesman.招募者为销售员.
740Yeah.对
741And any good salesman knows if I can close you now, it's better than letting it drag.任何优秀的推销员都知道 如果我现在可以关上你, 这总比让它拖。
742Yeah.对
743So they're going to butter you up.所以他们要给你抹黄油
744You're great.你很不错。
745And we can't wait for you to get started.我们迫不及待地等你开始
746The whole team's excited.整个团队都很兴奋.
747Vivian, what are your thoughts?薇薇安,你有什么想法吗?
748Yeah.对
749And a lot of candidates will say, thank you so much for the opportunity.许多候选人会说 非常感谢你给我这个机会
750Oh, this is fantastic.哦,这太棒了。
751I'd love to sign.我想签个名
752Let me know when the offer is here.出价的时候告诉我
753And I'm excited to start.我兴奋地开始。
754Yeah.对
755They accept on the spot.他们当场接受.
756No, exactly.不,没错。
757That's what you don't want to do.令诸众生不思议故.
758Yeah.对
759Totally okay for you to be like, thank you so much for the opportunity.非常感谢你给我这个机会
760This is a great, great role.这是一个伟大的,伟大的角色。
761I do want to have some time to think about this with my family.我想和我的家人一起考虑一下
762Just want to ask you from your side.只是想问你 从你身边。
763Is there any wiggle room here with salary?这里有没有带工资的摇摆房间?
764So you just want to ask, right?所以,你只是想问,对不对?
765You're not coming in with a counter already.你还没带柜台进来呢
766Typically, they'd be like, yeah, there could be some wiggle room,通常,他们会像,是的, 可能有一些摇摆的房间,
767but we've got to go back.但我们得回去
768Totally hear you.完全听见了
769I don't want you to have that discussion in the first call.我不想让你在第一次通话中讨论这个问题
770Yeah.对
771You go back.你们回去
772You wait till you get the written offer?你等得到书面报价?
773Ideally.理想的情况
774Ideally, you wait till you get the written offer,理想的是,你等待 直到你得到书面报价,
775but a lot of companies won't give it to you until you've decided.但很多公司不会给你 直到你决定。
776But I still just want to thank you so much.但我还是想非常感谢你
777I need some time to think about it.我需要一些时间考虑一下
778They're probably going to ask you, when will you be here back?你什么时候回来?
779It's like, yeah, a couple of days, tomorrow, whatever it is.这就像,是的,几天, 明天,不管是什么。
780You hang up.你挂断。
781And then that's when now you're preparing for the rebuttal.那时你正在准备反驳
782Okay.摆
783Now we play battleships.现在我们玩战舰
784And best case scenario is that you have other offers,最好的情况是你还有别的报价
785other options that you can now pull the levers off.其他选择,你现在可以拉 杠杆关闭。
786So let's say you got this offer from company A,假设你得到了A公司的报价
787but you're already in final rounds with company B.但你已经和B连在决赛了
788This is the time to go to company B and say,现在是时候去B公司说
789not the list of company, but I just got an offer today.不是公司名单 但我今天才得到一个报价
790You are my first choice, company B.你是我的第一个选择,B公司。
791Is there anything we can do?有什么我们能做的吗?
792Expect the process.期待这个过程。
793And what you want, the best case scenario that I tell all my clients,你想要什么,最好的 情况,我告诉所有的客户,
794multiple options at the same time.多个选项同时进行.
795Yeah.对
796So then you can go and go back to company A and say,所以你可以回A公司说
797well, I got an offer for 170.好吧,我得到了一个报价170。
798And if you can match this, I'll take it.如果你能配得上,我会接受
799Right?对吧?
800That's again, the best case scenario.再说一遍 最好的情况
801I know that like when you go and get a car loan我知道,就像当你去 得到汽车贷款
802or when you get a mortgage or things like,或者当你得到抵押贷款或类似的东西,
803you're supposed to pit financial services companies against each other你应该让金融服务公司互相竞争
804in the same way that you're supposed to pit people who want to work with you就像你本该陷害想跟你合作的人
805and provide your business service or like government contractors.提供商业服务或政府承包商
806They have to bid against each other.他们必须互相竞争
807That type of bidding war is normal.这种投标战争是正常的。
808However, if I'm pitting offers against each other,但是,如果我对彼此提出反对
809does that blackball me from working at company B forever?黑球我永远在B公司工作吗?
810The only way it would blackball you is if let's just say you use for company A,你唯一能打黑球的办法 就是说你用A公司
811you're like, hey, I got an offer for 170.你就像,嘿,我得到了一个报价170。
812Can you match it?你能匹配吗?
813And they say, yes, I'll match it because you told them if you match it,他们说,是的,我会匹配它 因为你告诉他们,如果你匹配它,
814I'll take it.我来
815And then you go to somewhere else that can blackball you from company A.然后你去别的地方 从A公司给你打黑球
816They're like, yo, we just met you where you're at.他们喜欢,哟,我们刚认识你 在你的地方。
817You asked for it.是你自找的吗?
818We gave it to you and you said no.我们给了你,你拒绝了。
819But sometimes you got to play the game.但有时你得玩游戏
820I actually don't recommend that.我其实不建议这样
821But I also can see why candidates would do that.但我也明白为什么候选人会这样做。
822I think as long as you're thankful and show gratitude我想只要你心存感激和感激
823and you show excitement for all these roles,你表现出兴奋 所有这些角色,
824dude, companies know the game too.伙计 公司也知道游戏内容
825Most likely the hiring manager played this game when they got their offer最有可能是雇人经理在他们得到邀请时玩这个游戏
826to get whatever offer they got.得到任何他们得到的报价。
827So they know.他们知道
828I think it's fine.我觉得这很好。
829But again, the best case scenario is if you have multiple options.但同样,最好的情况是 如果你有多种选择。
830Let's say you don't though.假设你没有
831Let's say company A is all you have.假设A公司就是你的全部
832And you're like, but show I don't have B and C and D.你就像,但显示 我没有B和C和D。
833You could still go back and tell them thank you so much for the opportunity.你还是可以回去告诉他们 非常感谢你给我这个机会
834I am currently in processes with different other companies.我目前正在与不同的其他公司合作。
835And the range that I'm talking with them is around 175 to 185.我和他们谈论的范围是175到185。
836I know we're farther across here from 150,我知道我们距离150更远
837but is there anything that you can do?但你能做些什么吗?
838And you just make that ask back.你只是让这个要求回来。
839Yeah.对
840And that's when it's up to them to see if they want to meet you at 175这时候,他们要看 他们想不想见你175
841or in that window.或者在那扇窗户里
842I actually did this when I was starting at Buzzfeed.我从巴兹菲德开始就这么做了
843I asked if there was any flexibility upwards in the salary我问薪金上调有没有灵活性
844and guess who got a little extra money?猜猜谁有一点额外的钱?
845Exactly.没错
846Me.来
847Exactly.没错
848Yeah.对
849对Net Worth and Chill的支持来自谷歌双子座.
850Hey besties.嘿,贝斯。
851So real talk.所以真正的谈话。
852Starting college feels like getting thrown into adulthood with no tutorial.开始上大学的感觉就像被扔进成年时没有教书
853Suddenly you're living on your own,突然你独自生活
854figuring out how to juggle your new classes and responsibilities.想着如何兼顾你的新课程和责任
855And wait, I have a research paper due next week.等等 我下周要写一份研究论文
856Don't get me wrong.别误会
857You can do this.你可以做到这一点。
858But having a little help from time to time goes a long way.但是,不时得到一点帮助是大有裨益的。
859That's where Google Gemini comes in.谷歌双子座就在这里出现.
860You can use Gemini to help you create an individualized weekly schedule您可以使用双子座帮助您创建个性化的每周日程
861so you can stay on top of your new life,这样你就可以保持你的新生活,
862submit that paper on time,按时提交该文件,
863and still make it to the orientation barbecue.并且还赶到方向烧烤场
864As a student, you can sign up for a full year of Google Gemini Pro Plan for free.作为一名学生,你可以免费报名全年的Google双子座Pro计划.
865Visit Gemini.Google.Students to claim your free student offer today.探访双子座. 谷歌报. 学生们今天要申请免费的学费
866Terms apply.条件适用。
867We've talked now a little bit about negotiating your opening salary我们聊过商量你开张工资的事
868the first time you're starting in a company.你第一次在公司开业
869What about negotiating for a raise in this market如何谈判 在这个市场加薪
870if you already work somewhere?如果你已经工作了?
871Everybody, I feel like every single company is complaining,各位,我觉得每个公司都在抱怨
872like, oh, we don't have any budget.我们没有预算
873What are some of your tips and tricks你的小把戏是什么?
874if you are a top performer at a company and you want a raise?如果你是公司顶尖的演员 你想加薪吗?
875Dude, it's like the same thing as leverage, right?伙计,这跟杠杆一样,对吧?
876You have the most leverage when they need you.当他们需要你时,你最有影响力
877So if you are a killer and you're bringing in money所以,如果你是一个杀手, 你带来了钱
878and you're bringing in deals你来做交易
879and you're doing all these things with AI你和AI一起做这些事
880that no one else in the company can do,公司里没有其他人可以做的,
881you have that leverage to ask.你有那个筹码可以问。
882And we talked about this in our webinar a few weeks ago我们几周前在 webinar 上谈到这个
883where personally, I think if you ask every single year我个人认为如果你每年都问
884for an extra 10, 15, 20% raise,额外加薪10,15,20%,
885I do think that can rub your manager off the wrong way.我确实觉得这可以打乱你的经理
886You do?是吗?
887I do.当然
888I'm someone who did it every year.每年我都会这么做
889Yeah, that's why.是啊,这就是为什么。
890I think this is where we differ.我想这就是我们不同之处。
891Even if I had a killer and they're constantly asking for more,即使我有一个杀手 他们不断要求更多
892for more, for more, it would be like at a certain point,对于更多,对于更多, 它会像在一个特定的时刻,
893I'm like, dude, I can't give it to you, man.伙计,我不能给你
894It's like I gotta ask HR and do all these things.这就像我要问HR和做所有这些事情。
895So my rule is asking every two years.所以我的规矩是每两年问一次
896Every two years, maybe a year and a half每两年,也许一年半
897where you're saying I did this XYZ你说我做了这个XYZ
898and this is what I want more or ask for that promo.这就是我想要的 或者要求那个宣传。
899I know your rule is every year.我知道你的规则是每年。
900We ask every year, but the reason we ask every year,我们每年都要问,但是我们每年问的原因
901in my opinion, is every year,在我看来 每年
902so it's like year one, you're asking for the raise所以,这就像第一年, 你要求加薪
903and then year two, you're asking for the promotion.第二年,你要求升职
904So you're not asking for the raise,所以你没有要求加薪,
905but it comes with a promotion.但要升职了
906So then it doesn't feel like a money grab所以,它不觉得 像抢钱
907and it feels like you actually want to increase感觉你其实想增加
908your role in the company.在公司里你的角色。
909Yes, I think smart, I think smart.是的,我觉得聪明,我觉得聪明。
910I mean, you can only do that though我的意思是,你只能这样做
911if you're an absolute killer, man.如果你是一个绝对的杀手,男人。
912Like if you're great at what you do, I mean, own it.就像如果你很擅长你的工作, 我的意思是,拥有它。
913Totally, you should get paid.当然,你应该得到报酬。
914But if you're just clocking in, clocking out and you're-但是如果你只是时钟 时钟出来,你...
915You're getting put on a performance improvement plan.你正在接受一个改进表现的计划
916Yeah, it's like, dude, you know, read the room.是啊,这就像,伙计, 你知道,读房间。
917And talking about money,说到钱
918do you think the best, highest paying jobs你认为最好的,高薪的工作
919have to be in major cities?必须在大城市?
920And if not, where else can these good jobs be found?如果没有,这些好工作还能在哪里找到?
921Like, aka I'm asking, where should we be moving?就像,我问,我们应该搬到哪里去?
922Yeah, well, dude, the higher the cost of living,是啊,伙计,生活成本越高,
923typically the higher salary jobs,典型的是高薪工作,
924but I just met with a buddy of mine who runs this Bitcoin investment.但我刚遇到一个兄弟 他经营比特币投资
925I don't even really know what he does.我什至不知道 他在做什么。
926He has a VC for crypto firms and they're doing really, really well.他有一个VC的密码公司 他们做的真的很,真的很好。
927They got funding, all these things.他们得到了资金,所有这些事情。
928One of his highest paid guys, multi-hundred thousands,他薪水最高的人之一 几十万
929lives in Bangkok and he's fully remote.住在曼谷,他很偏僻
930And he's like an American citizen.他就像一个美国公民。
931Yeah, American guy who's now moved to Thailand是啊,现在搬到泰国的美国家伙
932and now doing his thing and he's remote.现在做他的事,他很偏僻
933So if you are great at what you do, you have pull.所以,如果你是伟大的 你做什么,你有拉。
934You can ask for these things.你可以要求这些东西。
935I mean, he's living like a king, right?我的意思是,他的生活 像一个国王,对不对?
936So it doesn't always have to be these major cities,所以,它并不总是 这些大城市,
937but typically the answer is yes.但通常答案是肯定的。
938Typically the answer is yes.通常答案是肯定的。
939The other exception to this rule is if you do your own thing.这个规则的另一个例外是 如果你做你自己的事情。
940Yeah.对
941And you do your thing and you find your niche你做你的事情,你找到你的专长
942and you find your thing that you do,你发现你做的事,
943I mean, you could work anywhere and make money.我的意思是,你可以工作 任何地方和赚钱。
944Yeah.对
945So let's talk a little bit outside of just the cut and dry,所以,让我们谈谈 外面一点点,只是切和干,
946very strict job search, job hunting process.非常严格的求职 求职程序
947Yeah.对
948If you're at a job that you currently like,如果你现在喜欢的工作
949but we have all been told it's good to do this,但我们都被告知这样做是件好事
950networking, I need a little bit of a clearer definition.我需要更明确的定义
951What actually does that word mean?这个词到底是什么意思?
952Like what counts and doesn't count as networking像什么是重要,不 算成网络
953and how do we do it well?我们怎样才能做得好?
954I think it's more important than ever to network我觉得网络比以前更重要
955and it's not the suit and tie career fair.这不是西装 和领带职业公平。
956Like what does it mean, Sho?这是什么意思,Sho?
957Yeah, it's a good question.是啊,这是一个很好的问题。
958I mean, let's just even use today as an example.我的意思是,让我们只是用 今天作为一个例子。
959Okay.摆
960So we're here on the set in Net Worth and Chill.所以,我们在这里 在网络价值和冷。
961I came a couple of minutes early.我早来了几分钟
962I just want to check out the studio.我只是想看看工作室
963It's a really cool studio.这是一个非常酷的工作室。
964This is where Sho reminds everyone这就是Sho提醒大家的地方
965that I came a couple of minutes late.我迟到了几分钟
966I'm like looking at my clock, like, yo, where's Viv?我就像看着我的钟一样, 哟,Viv在哪里?
967But I'm walking the room and I see your team, Grace.但我走在房间里 看到你的团队 Grace
968I'm like, yo, what's up, Grace?我像,哟,怎么了,格蕾丝?
969How long have you been working with Viv?你和薇薇合作多久了?
970What do you do?你们是做什么的?
971Yeah.对
972Just small chat there.就在这里闲聊一下
973And I met your podcast producer, who's also cool.我遇见了你的播客制片人,他也很酷。
974And then I met Jenna, who's really cool.然后我遇到了珍娜,她真的很酷。
975This is networking, man.这是网络,男人。
976It's like, it doesn't have to feel forced这就像,它不必感到强迫
977and I'm going to send Grace a LinkedIn request afterwards我要给格蕾丝一个链接 事后提出请求
978and I'm a poach, no, I'm just kidding.我是一个偷猎者,不,我只是在开玩笑。
979I'll kill you with my bare hands.赤手斩之.
980I know you're going to kill me.我知道你会杀了我的
981But it's like, but that's what networking is.但就像,但这就是网络。
982It's like just meeting good people就像只见好人一样
983and maybe next time I'm in the city,也许下次我进城时
984because Grace lives here, I'm like, yo, Grace,因为格蕾丝住在这里,我很喜欢,哟,格蕾丝,
985you down for a coffee?你下来喝杯咖啡?
986Grace, you can't get coffee with him.格蕾丝 你不能和他一起喝咖啡
987And she's going to be like, yo, work app sounds really great.她会像,哟,工作应用听起来非常好。
988But that's what it's about.然其义也.
989It's like meeting good people.如见善人.
990I met Viv on a bus ride to Adobe Max last year.我去年在去Adobe Max的公交车上遇到了薇薇
991I'm like, yo, Viv, I see you.我很喜欢,哟,薇薇,我看到你。
992Oh, cool.哦,酷毙了。
993And then we just chatted and we're like,然后,我们只是聊天, 我们喜欢,
994now we stay connected, now we DM and we text.现在我们保持连接,现在我们管理部和我们发短信。
995And it's just like finding a good person就像找到一个好人
996that you want to connect with您想要连接到
997and just staying consistent with it.并保持与它一致。
998That's really what networking is all about.这才是网络的本质。
999And Grace is telling me how the story,Grace告诉我这个故事是怎么写的
1000how she got this job.她是怎么得到这份工作的
1001She didn't apply.她没有申请。
1002No, she got hooked up through my old mentor不,她被我以前的导师迷住了
1003and who knew her uncle.她认识她的叔叔
1004And so, yes.所以说,是的。
1005It's the whole networking game, the connections game.这是整个网络游戏,连接游戏。
1006So if you're learning anything from this team,如果你从这个团队学到了什么
1007don't do the application game.不要做应用程序游戏。
1008Don't do the traditional way.别用传统方式
1009It's finding that back door through connections,它发现后门 通过连接,
1010through different projects通过不同项目
1011that's really going to get you hired.那真的会让你受聘的
1012So you're doing all of this networking.所以你正在做所有这些网络。
1013You're having these normal conversations.你在正常地交谈
1014There's no big ask.无有大问.
1015When is the right time to put in your big ask,什么时候才是你问的好时机
1016to ask for that favor from someone in your network?请求你网络里的人帮忙?
1017Is there a good initial outreach message是否有良好的初始外联信息
1018that you can share with us?你可以和我们分享吗?
1019Dude, I'll tell you a mistake that I made back in college哥们,我告诉你我在大学时犯了一个错误
1020where I went to a non-target school.在那里我去了一个非目标学校。
1021I went to UC Irvine school,我上过加州大学欧文分校
1022but we're not Harvard, we're not Ivy League.但我们不是哈佛,我们不是常春藤联盟。
1023And I wanted to break into consulting.我想去咨询一下
1024So I know the way to get into consulting所以我知道怎么咨询
1025is you go from a target school你从目标学校走
1026where they recruit from you,他们从你那里招募,
1027or you have to find your way there.或者你必须找到你的方式。
1028So I had to find my way there.所以,我必须找到我的路在那里。
1029One of the ways to get into these consulting firms进入这些咨询公司的方法之一
1030is I was like, let me connect friends or friends of friends我当时想,让我联系朋友或朋友
1031that have already worked there.他们已经在那里工作了。
1032And I remember this guy used to work at Deloitte Consulting.我记得这个人以前在德勤咨询公司工作
1033And I had a distant friend who they were friends with.我有一个远方的朋友 他们的朋友。
1034And her name was Jing.她叫静
1035The problem here is that's a distant friend.这里的问题是,这是一个遥远的朋友。
1036So it's already a big ask.故已是大问.
1037But we met a few years back.但我们几年前见过
1038I sent her an email.我给她发了封邮件
1039Hey, Jing, it's been a while.小静,好久不见
1040I really want to work in consulting.我真的很想做咨询工作
1041And I heard your bro works in Deloitte Consulting.我听说你兄弟在德勤咨询公司工作
1042Could you connect me?你能联系我吗?
1043And she was very nice about it.她对此非常友善.
1044She's like, yeah, sure.她喜欢,是的,当然。
1045I'll send you a note.我会给你寄条便条
1046And here you go.给你
1047I was like, oh, that's so nice.我当时想,哦,那太好了。
1048Thank you.谢谢
1049The mistake was right after that,之后的错就发生了
1050I had a good call with this guy.我和这家伙打过电话
1051Maybe a day or two days later, I went back to Jing and said,也许一两天后,我回到静说
1052Jing, I saw another connection you have with LinkedIn.阿晶,我又看见你和LinkedIn的关系了
1053Can you connect me to this guy who works at Oliver Wyman?你能帮我联系到奥利弗·怀曼的手下吗
1054She ghosted you.她把你吓死了
1055She didn't ghost me.她没有缠着我
1056Dude, she gave me a pretty lengthy email伙计,她给了我一个很长的电子邮件
1057of how that's not appropriate.如何是不恰当的。
1058And at that time, dude, that shot my ego, man.在那个时候,伙计,那让我的自尊大
1059I was like, oh, man, I'm just a kid.我只是个孩子
1060And I'm, oh, I didn't know I effed up so bad.我,哦,我不知道我这么糟。
1061Now I'm a lot older.现在我年纪大多了
1062Yeah, she's in the right.是的,她在右边。
1063Dude, you can't be, I was too greedy.老兄,你不能这样,我太贪婪了
1064I'm like asking, asking, asking for who's a distant friend.我就像问,问,问 谁是一个遥远的朋友。
1065If you're boys, if you're homies, you go day one.如果你是男孩子,如果你是朋友,你就去第一天。
1066Yeah, ask away, right?是啊,问远,对不对?
1067You've built that relationship.你建立了这种关系。
1068But you can't be asking, asking, asking.但你不能问,问,问。
1069So I would say make the ask所以我说,让我问
1070after you've already built some rapport.等你建立了一些关系。
1071And if anything, try to actually give first.如果有的话,尽量先给
1072If there anything that you can do to help them如果你能帮上忙的话
1073and don't ask them, how can I help you?不要问他们,我有什么可以帮你的?
1074But I'll redo it.但我会重做它。
1075And then in your back pocket, if you do need something,然后在你后面的口袋里 如果你确实需要什么
1076maybe you can ask, but just don't take it personally也许你可以问, 但不要把它个人
1077if they say no, it's okay.如果他们拒绝,没关系。
1078But don't do what I did and take, take, take.但不要做我所做的, 采取,采取,采取。
1079That still stings with me now.我现在还是很痛
1080I don't think I've ever shared that in a podcast.我想我从来没有分享过这个 在播客。
1081That still stings with me.这仍然刺痛我。
1082Have you ever reached out to her to apologize?你联系过她道歉吗?
1083You know, I was such a brat.你知道,我是这样一个孩子。
1084I was such a brat.我真是个小鬼
1085And I remember that I did not take it well.我还记得,我没有把它很好。
1086I was like, oh, my ego got shot, right?我好像,哦,我的自我被射中了,对吧?
1087And I think I probably responded.我想我可能已经回复了
1088I was like, oh, I'm sorry, da, da, da.我当时想,哦,对不起, da, da, da.
1089But then when I did get into consulting,但是当我去咨询的时候
1090I emailed her back and said, oh, you know,我给她发了邮件 说,哦,你知道,
1091I got consulting.我有咨询。
1092Thank you for your help, all this stuff.谢谢你的帮助,所有这些东西。
1093But I just felt like I could have been more like,但我觉得自己可以更喜欢
1094oh, dude, you're so right.哦,伙计,你说得对。
1095Yeah.对
1096I should have known better and do these things.我早该知道这些事
1097I probably could reach out to her now.我现在也许可以联系她了
1098Will I?我会吗?
1099No, but will I?不,但我会吗?
1100I won't.我不会的
1101You're such a weenie.你真是个混蛋
1102I know, I know.我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道,我知道
1103That's your girl ish.这就是你的女朋友。
1104Not really, because you're a distant friend.不是真的,因为你是一个遥远的朋友。
1105That's my distant friend, friend of friend.这是我的远方朋友,朋友的朋友。
1106But you're right, Ken.但你是对的,肯
1107But I do.但我会的
1108Yeah, you know, that's probably just my own head in my head.是啊,你知道,这可能是 只是我自己的头在我的头上。
1109Like, oh, she doesn't want to hear from me.喜欢,哦,她不想听到我。
1110Dude, it was freaking 15, 20 years ago.哥们,那是15、20年前的事了
1111It's like time has passed.这就像时间已经过去。
1112It's fine now, man.现在没事了
1113She has a career.她有事业
1114I think she's married.我觉得她结婚了
1115You know, like all is fine.你知道,像一切是罚款。
1116I'm married.我结婚了
1117I'm doing my own thing.我做我自己的事情。
1118It's like totally fine.这就像完全罚款。
1119That's so funny.这太好笑了
1120OK, so we are going to wrap up our conversation soon.好,我们马上结束谈话
1121But before we do that, I want to do some translations但在此之前,我想做一些翻译
1122of corporate speak and what that actually means.这到底意味着什么
1123OK.摆
1124So I'm going to give you an email sentence.所以我要给你一个电子邮件句子。
1125And you can just translate it for us, plus how you'd respond.你可以为我们翻译, 再加上你的反应。
1126OK.摆
1127I know you approached me about a raise,我知道你找过我要加薪
1128but it's unclear what our budget looks like.但不清楚我们的预算是什么样子
1129Let's revisit next quarter.下个季度再谈吧
1130So I'm assuming this is my boss giving me this.所以我想这是我老板给我的
1131You know what?你知道吗?
1132I actually would say they might be vouching for you.我其实会说他们可能为你担保
1133They might be vouching for you.他们可能为你担保。
1134But they just don't know the numbers.但他们只是不知道数字。
1135That's if you have a good boss.如果你有个好老板的话
1136If you have a bad boss, they never had that call with HR.如果你有一个坏老板, 他们从来没有与HR的电话。
1137They never vouched for you in the first place.他们从未担保过你
1138It really depends where you're at.这真的取决于你在哪里。
1139But how I would respond, I would say thank you so much.但我会怎样回应,我会说非常谢谢你。
1140Would love another meeting at XYZ date to discuss this again.希望能在XYZ日期再开个会再讨论一次
1141So you're giving a timeline so where you can meet again to talk about it.所以你给出了一个时间线 这样你就可以再次见面 谈论它。
1142When it comes to your responsibilities,当涉及到你的责任时,
1143you're already performing at the next band,你已经在下一个乐队表演了
1144but your participation in our culture is slightly lacking,但是,你对我们文化的参与 有点缺乏,
1145which is why I'm hesitating.这就是为什么我犹豫。
1146Yo, she don't like you, man.她不喜欢你
1147Really?真的吗?
1148Yeah.对
1149I think there's some if your manager is telling you this,我想有些事情如果你的经理告诉你
1150I think there's something there.我想那里有东西
1151The only time someone would say you're not a culture fit唯一一次有人会说你不适合文化
1152is if this person doesn't see you as a fit for the team.如果这个人不认为你适合团队
1153You probably are a high performer.你可能是一个高演技。
1154So she's acknowledging that, which is a good sign.所以她承认了 这是个好兆头
1155But if you're saying you might not be a great fit from a culture perspective,但是如果你是在说 从文化的角度来看 你可能不太合适
1156dude, you've got to do something about that.伙计,你得做点什么
1157So I think this is where I would say thanks for the feedback.所以我认为,这就是我对反馈的感谢。
1158Would love to see if we could have a discussion about this想看看我们能不能讨论一下
1159and see how it can be a better fit.看看怎样才能更合适
1160So you want to work with this person to seal that deal and then be better about it.所以,你想和这个人合作 完成交易,然后更好。
1161In my eyes, she might not like you.在我眼里,她可能不喜欢你
1162She might not like you.她可能不喜欢你。
1163Yeah.对
1164With the structural reorg, your role will be shifting.随着结构重置,你的角色将会转移。
1165You'll have the exciting opportunity to sit across both teams你将有一个令人兴奋的机会 坐在两队对面
1166and provide an expert voice for the two.并为两人提供一个专家的声音。
1167Oh, okay.哦,还好。
1168You're wearing multiple hats, baby.你戴着多顶帽子,宝贝
1169More work, same pay.更多的工作,同样的工资。
1170That's what it sounds like.闻是语已.
1171More work, same pay.更多的工作,同样的工资。
1172But I mean, we've all been there.但我们都去过那里
1173We've all played the corporate game.我们都玩过公司游戏
1174If I was still in my early 20s and a partner at my consulting firm told me that,如果我还早20多岁 和我的咨询公司的合伙人告诉我,
1175I'm like, amazing, sign me up for this opportunity, right?我很喜欢,惊人的, 签我这个机会,对不对?
1176But at that stage, all I want to do is ask this and get on these projects and get paid.但是在那个阶段,我只想问一下这个问题,去参加这些项目,然后得到报酬。
1177And that's sometimes the game you got to play.有时候你必须玩这个游戏
1178But if now I'm in a place of like, I'm established, dude, I'm already doing so much work.但是如果现在我身处一个类似的地方, 我固执,伙计,我已经做了这么多工作。
1179I don't want to do more.我不想多做点事
1180That might be when I gently push back and say, thank you so much for the opportunity.这可能是当我轻轻地推后说, 非常感谢你给我这个机会。
1181I have already been doing XYZ and we've gone this growth.我已经做了XYZ,我们已经走了这一增长。
1182I don't think I'm the right person for this role, but would love to discuss further.我觉得我不适合扮演这个角色,但很想进一步讨论.
1183It really depends on where you're at in your career.这真的取决于 你在哪里 在你的职业生涯。
1184Or you could just be like, absolutely.或者你可以像,绝对的。
1185I'm so excited to take on these additional responsibilities.我很兴奋能承担这些额外的责任
1186What would the additional salary increase be?增加的工资将增加多少?
1187I like that.我喜欢
1188Because I'm someone who's willing to do more work, but I need to be paid more.因为我是愿意做更多工作的人 但我需要更多的报酬
1189I like that.我喜欢
1190Yeah.对
1191Okay.摆
1192Yes, because they might have some, right?是的,因为他们可能有一些,对不对?
1193Oh, funny you ask.哦,有趣你问。
1194Boom, here you go.砰,给你。
1195We have unlimited paid time off here.我们有无限的带薪假在这里。
1196You know what?你知道吗?
1197I've done videos of this of like, where it's a scam.我拍过这样的视频,这是骗局
1198If it's a good company, it can be a good thing.如是善伴能为善.
1199It can be a good thing.能为善根.
1200I have friends who are taking 30, 35 plus days off and traveling and doing these things.我有朋友要休息30到35天 旅行和做这些事情。
1201And they're great and they get promoted and all these things.他们很棒,他们得到晋升 和所有这些事情。
1202But if you know that no one actually takes any days off, then it's a red flag.但是,如果你知道 没有人真的请假, 那么这是一面红旗。
1203At our company, we're like family.在我们的公司里 我们就像一家人
1204Classic, classic, right?经典,经典,对不对?
1205You don't want to work with your family, man.你不想和家人一起工作,伙计
1206Yuck.恶心。
1207I don't want to be here.我不想在这里。
1208The vibes here are very work hard, play hard.这里的氛围很努力,很努力地发挥.
1209Another classic.又一经典.
1210And I will say some companies are like that.我会说一些公司就是这样的。
1211Yeah.对
1212And if you are ready for that grind, cool.如果你准备好磨,酷。
1213You might work hard and play hard.你可能努力工作 玩得开心
1214Yeah.对
1215But again, it really depends on where you're at.但是,它真的取决于你在哪里。
1216If I heard a company say that right now, I probably wouldn't accept it.如果我现在听到一个公司这么说 我可能不会接受
1217Really?真的吗?
1218I probably wouldn't accept.我可能不会接受。
1219Yeah.对
1220I'm like, ah, I'm looking for something a little different.и稱摆и稱тㄇぃ妓狥「
1221Just got to feel it out.只需感觉到它出来。
1222Okay.摆
1223So this is our last segment.所以这是我们最后的部分。
1224Let's go.我们走吧。
1225Rapid fire money questions.快速火力钱的问题。
1226Let's do it.贡举志五种 上.
1227Just as quick answer as you can.尽快回答
1228Yes.对
1229Best money advice you've ever received?你收到过最好的钱建议吗?
1230Money is energy.钱就是能量
1231This is from Ken Honda, who has a great book.这是本田健的书
1232He's a great creator, but he just like how you feel about money is usually他是一个伟大的创造者, 但他只是喜欢你的感受 关于钱通常是
1233what will produce for you if it's money or not.如果不是钱,有什么能给你的?
1234If you have this fear, it'll always go away.如果你有这种恐惧, 它会永远消失。
1235What's the worst financial decision you've ever made?你做过的最坏的财务决定是什么?
1236Crypto.密码
1237Dude, I have lost multiple six figures on some speculative coins.老兄,我损失了六个数字 一些投机硬币。
1238I know Viv, as I'm sitting on Net Worth and Chill with the queen of finance.我认识薇薇,因为我正和财后坐在一起
1239Bro.哥们
1240I know.我知道,我记得
1241We're mutual on social media.社交媒体互通.
1242Are you not getting served the videos?你没收到视频吗?
1243I know.我知道,我记得
1244You know, when you get an exciting opportunity that you can't pass up.你知道,当你得到 一个令人兴奋的机会,你不能放弃。
1245Oh God.天呐
1246I know.我知道,我记得
1247Okay.摆
1248We'll work on that.我们会努力的
1249On me.对我
1250Do you believe in dream jobs and why?你相信做梦的工作吗?
1251No dream jobs.没有做梦的工作。
1252I believe in ideal careers.我相信理想的职业。
1253If you can be happy most of the time in your career, dude, you're winning.如果你能在职业生涯的大部分时间快乐,伙计,你会赢的。
1254Okay.摆
1255There's no perfect job out there.外面没有完美的工作
1256Oh, okay.哦,还好。
1257I like that answer.我喜欢这个答案。
1258I actually like that a lot.其实我很喜欢
1259If you could give your 18 year old self one piece of career advice,如果你能给自己一个职业建议
1260what would it be?会是什么?
1261Follow your instincts and follow what your natural skills are.随顺本性随顺自然技艺.
1262If I could talk to myself, I knew this career communication, people stuff.如果我能自言自语, 我知道这个职业沟通, 人们的东西。
1263That was my jam, but I saw the shiny prestige bubble.那是我的果酱,但我看到了 闪亮的威望泡沫。
1264I saw consulting.我看到咨询。
1265I saw six figures and I went that path and I had a good start,我看到六个数字,我走那条路 我有一个好的开始,
1266but I wish I found what I wanted to do earlier.但我希望我早点找到我想做的事
1267What is a telltale sign that you're about to close a job interview?什么是告示标志 你即将结束一个工作面试?
1268Ooh, yo, you can just tell from body language.哦,哟,你可以从身体语言看出来。
1269When they're leaning in and they're like, yeah, and they're like,当他们倾斜, 他们喜欢,是的,他们喜欢,
1270oh, so you did do that.哦,所以你这样做。
1271So how would that work here?那这怎么行呢?
1272It's like they're already saying things about you being here.他们好像在说你在这里
1273And here's a really good one.这是非常好的。
1274At the end of the interview, they're like, oh, you know what?在采访结束时,他们喜欢,哦,你知道吗?
1275I know we're over, but let me introduce you, Grace.我知道我们结束了,但让我介绍你,格蕾丝。
1276Let me introduce you, Jonathan, in the back,让我给你介绍 乔纳森 在后面
1277because they already know you're going to be meeting them.因为他们已经知道你要去见他们了
1278It's like, meet your new friends, meet your new team.这就像,满足你的新朋友, 满足你的新团队。
1279Mmm.垛
1280Okay, last one.好吧,最后一个。
1281What is one strategy that always helps you in a negotiation?什么策略总是帮助你谈判?
1282I would say, think before you speak.我会说,在你说话之前先想想
1283I think the person who's talking too much, they're going to often lose.我觉得说太多话的人 经常会输
1284So when the recruiter is giving you the offer,所以当招募者给你报价时,
1285it's not your time to be like, well, okay, well, I want this.这不是你的时间 像,好吧,好吧,嗯,我想要这个。
1286Don't do that.别这样
1287It's like, let them share because you're the prize.这就像,让他们分享 因为你是奖品。
1288Let yourself be wanted.让自己成为通缉犯
1289I think if you can do that and counter in a way我想如果你能这样做 并用某种方式反驳
1290that showcases your value, you're going to get paid.这显示了你的价值, 你会得到报酬。
1291I love that.我喜欢
1292Thank you so much for being here.谢谢你能来
1293You're the best, Viv.你是最棒的,薇薇
1294Let everyone know where we can find you and tell us a little bit more告诉大家我们在哪里能找到你 告诉我们更多
1295about where we can get your book.关于我们在哪里可以得到你的书。
1296Yes, Viv, thanks so much for having me.是的,薇薇,谢谢你邀请我
1297Friends, you can find me at Work App on all socials,朋友们,你可以找到我在工作App 在所有社交,
1298but I would love for you to get my book, Get Hired, Get Paid, Get Happy,但我希望你帮我拿书 雇人 付钱 开心
1299because I think if you got value from this, what, 45-minute chat,因为我认为如果你有价值 从这个,什么,45分钟聊天,
1300this is going to completely change your career.这将会彻底改变你的事业
1301And I think you're going to get hired, get paid, and get happy.我想你会得到雇佣, 得到报酬,并获得快乐。
1302I love it.我喜欢它。
1303What a great way for us to end.我们结束这一切的好方法
1304Thank you, Viv.谢谢你,薇薇
1305Thanks for being here.谢谢你能来
1306Thank you, my friend.谢谢你,我的朋友。
1307Thanks for tuning into this week's episode of Net Worth and Chill,谢谢你在本周的"网络价值与寒冷"一集
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