月薪，是穷人最昂贵的毒品｜纳瓦尔：你越努力工作，越无法致富
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| 0:00 | that is you're a big investor, you're deep in the tech world, but yet you seem | 你是一个大投资者, 你深陷科技界, 但你看起来 |
| 0:08 | to have a very balanced perspective in terms of how to live life as opposed to | 在如何生活方面有一个非常平衡的观点,而不是 |
| 0:13 | not just be entirely focused on success and financial success and tech investing | 不只是完全侧重于成功、财政成功和技术投资 |
| 0:23 | but rather how to live your life in a happy way. | 而是如何过上快乐的生活 |
| 0:26 | That's an odd | 这很奇怪 |
| 0:28 | balance. | 余额。 |
| 0:29 | Yeah, you know, I think the reason why people like hearing me is | 是啊,你知道,我认为,为什么 人们喜欢听到我 |
| 0:33 | because it's like if you go to a circus and you see a bear, that's kind of | 因为就像你去马戏团 看到一只熊,那是种 |
| 0:38 | interesting, but not that much. | 很有趣,但没那么多。 |
| 0:39 | If you see a unicycle, that's interesting, but | 如果你看到单车,这是有趣的,但 |
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| 1 | that is you're a big investor, you're deep in the tech world, but yet you seem | 你是一个大投资者, 你深陷科技界, 但你看起来 |
| 2 | to have a very balanced perspective in terms of how to live life as opposed to | 在如何生活方面有一个非常平衡的观点,而不是 |
| 3 | not just be entirely focused on success and financial success and tech investing | 不只是完全侧重于成功、财政成功和技术投资 |
| 4 | but rather how to live your life in a happy way. | 而是如何过上快乐的生活 |
| 5 | That's an odd | 这很奇怪 |
| 6 | balance. | 余额。 |
| 7 | Yeah, you know, I think the reason why people like hearing me is | 是啊,你知道,我认为,为什么 人们喜欢听到我 |
| 8 | because it's like if you go to a circus and you see a bear, that's kind of | 因为就像你去马戏团 看到一只熊,那是种 |
| 9 | interesting, but not that much. | 很有趣,但没那么多。 |
| 10 | If you see a unicycle, that's interesting, but | 如果你看到单车,这是有趣的,但 |
| 11 | you see a bear on a unicycle, that's really interesting, right? | 你看到一只熊在单轮车上, 这真的很有趣,对不对? |
| 12 | So when you | 所以当你 |
| 13 | combine things you're not supposed to combine, people get interested. | 结合你不应该结合的事物 人们会感兴趣 |
| 14 | It's like | 这就像 |
| 15 | Bruce Lee, right? | 李小龙,对吧? |
| 16 | Striking thoughts, philosophy, plus martial arts. | 令人振奋的思想,哲学,加上武术. |
| 17 | And I | 还有我 |
| 18 | think it's because at some level all humans are broad. | 认为这是因为在某种程度上所有人类都是广义的. |
| 19 | We're all | 我们都是 |
| 20 | multivariate, but we get summarized in pithy ways in our lives and at some deep | 多变的,但我们被总结 在我们的生活和一些深处 |
| 21 | level we know that's not true, right? | 我们都知道那不是真的 对吧? |
| 22 | Every human basically is capable of | 每个人基本上都有能力 |
| 23 | every experience and every thought. | 所有的经验和想法 |
| 24 | You know, you're a UFC comedian, commentator, | 你知道,你是一个UFC喜剧演员,评论家, |
| 25 | podcaster, but you're also more than that. | 脚踏车,但你也不止这些 |
| 26 | You're also father, lover, you know, | 你也是父亲,爱人,你知道, |
| 27 | thinker, etc. | 智者等论. |
| 28 | So I like the model of life that the ancients had, the Greeks, the | 所以我喜欢古代人的生活模式 希腊人 |
| 29 | Romans, right? | 罗马人,对吧? |
| 30 | Where you would start out and when you're young you're just like | 你从哪里开始,当你年轻时,你就像 |
| 31 | going to school, then you're going to war, then you're running a business, then | 去上学,然后去打仗,然后去做生意,然后 |
| 32 | you're supposed to serve in the Senate or the government, then you become a | 你应该在参议院或政府任职 然后成为一名 |
| 33 | philosopher. | 哲学家. |
| 34 | There's sort of this arc to life where you try your hand at | 生命的弧线,你用手试试 |
| 35 | everything. | 一切众生. |
| 36 | And as one of my friends says, specialization is for insects, right? | 正如我的一个朋友所说 专业化是针对昆虫的 对吧? |
| 37 | So | 这么说 |
| 38 | everyone should just be able to do everything. | 每个人都应该能做任何事情。 |
| 39 | And so I don't believe in | 所以我不认为 |
| 40 | this model anymore of trying to focus your life down on one thing. | 这个模特儿已经把精力集中在一件事上 |
| 41 | You've got | 你已经有了 |
| 42 | one life. | 一个生命。 |
| 43 | Just do everything you're gonna do. | 随所欲行. |
| 44 | I couldn't agree more. | 我完全同意这一点。 |
| 45 | And I | 还有我 |
| 46 | think that sometimes people find certain success in whatever the endeavor is and | 认为有时人们在任何努力中都能找到一定的成功 |
| 47 | then they think that that is their niche and they stick with it and they never | 然后他们认为那是他们的优势 他们坚持它,他们从来没有 |
| 48 | change. | 变化。 |
| 49 | And they're almost out of fear. | 他们几乎出于恐惧 |
| 50 | Well, it's hard because there's an | 嗯,这是很难的,因为有一个 |
| 51 | analogy around mountain climbing. | 以攀登山为例 |
| 52 | 碞钩тcm | |
| 53 | start climbing and you spend your whole life climbing it and you get, say, | 开始攀登,然后你度过一生 攀登它,你得到,说, |
| 54 | two-thirds of the way and then you see the peak is like way up there, but you're | 三分之二的路,然后你看到峰顶 就像那里,但你 |
| 55 | still really high up. | 仍然高涨。 |
| 56 | But now to go the rest of the way, you're gonna have to go | 但现在去剩下的路, 你必须去 |
| 57 | back down to the bottom and look for another path. | 回到底部寻找另一条路。 |
| 58 | Nobody wants to do that. | 没有人想这样做。 |
| 59 | People don't want to start over. | 人们不想重新开始。 |
| 60 | And it's the nature of later in life that you | 这是你后世的本性 |
| 61 | just don't know the time. | 只是不知道时间。 |
| 62 | So it's very painful to go back down and look for a | 所以,它是非常痛苦的 回去寻找一个 |
| 63 | new path, but that may be the best thing to do. | 新的道路,但这可能是最好的办法。 |
| 64 | And that's why when you look at | 所以当你看着 |
| 65 | the greatest artists and creators, they have this ability to start over that | 伟大的艺术家和创造者, 他们有这种能力 从那个开始 |
| 66 | nobody else does. | 没有人知道 |
| 67 | Like Elon will, you know, be called an idiot and start over doing | 就像伊隆会,你知道的,被叫做白痴 然后重新开始做 |
| 68 | something brand new that he supposedly is not qualified for. | 新的东西,他应该没有资格。 |
| 69 | Or when Madonna or | 或者当麦当娜或 |
| 70 | Paul Simon or U2 come out with a new album, their existing fans usually hate | 保罗·西蒙或U2带一张新专辑出来 他们现有的粉丝通常讨厌 |
| 71 | it because they've adopted a completely new style that they've learned somewhere | 因为他们采用了一种全新的风格 他们从某处学到了 |
| 72 | else. | 别的 |
| 73 | And a lot of times they'll just miss completely. | 很多时候他们会完全错过 |
| 74 | So you have to be | 所以你必须 |
| 75 | willing to be a fool and kind of have that beginner's mind and go back to the | 愿意做个傻子 并有那种初学者的头脑 |
| 76 | beginning to start over. | 开始重新开始。 |
| 77 | If you're not doing that, you're just getting older. | 如果你不这样做, 你只是变老了。 |
| 78 | Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if it's willing to be a fool. | 是啊,我的意思是,我甚至不知道 它是否愿意成为一个傻瓜。 |
| 79 | It's just to me | 对我来说 |
| 80 | that the most exciting thing is to try to get better at something, to learn at | 最激动人心的就是 努力在某件事上做得更好 学习在 |
| 81 | things. | 东西。 |
| 82 | I mean, it's really exciting when you just have incremental progress | 我的意思是,它真的很令人兴奋 当你只是有 渐进的进步 |
| 83 | in something that you're completely new to. | 在你完全新来的地方 |
| 84 | Yeah, I live for the aha moment. | 是啊,我活了一会儿。 |
| 85 | That moment when you connect two things | 那一刻,当你连接两件事 |
| 86 | together that you hadn't connected together before, and it fits nicely and | 在一起,你以前没有 连接在一起, 它很适合, |
| 87 | solidly, and it kind of helps form a steel framework of understanding in your | 固执地说,它有助于形成一个钢框架 在你的理解 |
| 88 | {\fn黑体\fs20\shad2\2aH82\3aH20\4aH33\fscx95\3cH592001\be1}你可别忘了其他想法 | |
| 89 | That's what I live for. | 我为此而生. |
| 90 | It's that | 就是这样 |
| 91 | And it's what little children do, too. | 而小儿所为也. |
| 92 | My little son is always asking, why, why, | 我的儿子总是问,为什么,为什么,为什么, |
| 93 | why, why, why? | 为什么,为什么,为什么? |
| 94 | And I always try and answer him. | 我总是试着回答他 |
| 95 | And half the times I realize, | 一半的时间我意识到, |
| 96 | actually, I don't really understand why. | 其实,我真的不明白为什么。 |
| 97 | I just have a memorized answer for you, | 我只是有一个记住的答案给你, |
| 98 | but that's not really understanding. | 但这不是真正的理解。 |
| 99 | Yeah, those are weird conversations, right? | 是啊,这是奇怪的谈话,对不对? |
| 100 | When you're talking to your kids | 当你跟你的孩子说话时 |
| 101 | and you say, look, the reality is I don't know a lot of things. | 你说,你看,现实是,我不知道很多事情。 |
| 102 | Yeah, I've just memorized a lot of things, yeah. | 是的,我刚刚记住了很多事情,是的。 |
| 103 | And there's certain things that you just can't know. | 有些事你无法知道 |
| 104 | Yeah, you realize that, you know, you have, you have answers for a few things | 是啊,你知道,你知道, 你有,你有答案 一些事情 |
| 105 | that you've thought through. | 你考虑过了 |
| 106 | Then you sort of have cover ups, like trap doors, | 然后,你有点掩盖, 像陷阱门, |
| 107 | like, don't go here. | 喜欢,不要去这里。 |
| 108 | This is just a cover up. | 这只是一个掩盖。 |
| 109 | I don't really know the answer | 我其实不知道答案 |
| 110 | to what the meaning of life is or how we got here. | 生命的意义 或我们如何来到这里。 |
| 111 | And then you've got a | 然后你有一个 |
| 112 | whole bunch of memorized stuff, because a lot of your, a lot of intelligence | 一堆被记住的东西, 因为很多你,很多智能 |
| 113 | these days, just the external brain pack of civilization. | 这些天,只有 外部的大脑集 文明。 |
| 114 | I know it's out there. | 知其在外处. |
| 115 | I know the answers are out there. | 我知道答案就在这里 |
| 116 | I know how to look them up. | 我知道怎么查他们 |
| 117 | And I've | 而我已经 |
| 118 | memorized some of them. | 记住其中一些。 |
| 119 | And I kind of understand how money works in the | 我有点理解 钱是如何工作的 |
| 120 | Federal Reserve prints it and what this government thing is, but not really. | 美联储印了它和政府的东西 但不是真的 |
| 121 | Right. | 对 |
| 122 | So not good enough to teach it in university. | 所以在大学里教它还不够好 |
| 123 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 124 | I think people do that with almost everything in life these days, | 我认为人们这样做 几乎所有的生活 这些天, |
| 125 | 碞钩Τ page page sheet sheet | |
| 126 | like a brief summary of what the explanation for what this very | 就像一个简短的总结 来解释为什么 |
| 127 | complex subject might be. | 问题很复杂 |
| 128 | TLDR,对不对? | |
| 129 | Don't give me the, don't give me the lecture. | 别给我,别给我讲课 |
| 130 | Give me the book. | 把书给我 |
| 131 | Don't give me the book. | 别把书给我 |
| 132 | Give me the blog post. | 把博客文章给我 |
| 133 | Don't give me the blog post. | 不要给我的博客文章。 |
| 134 | Give me the tweet. | 把推特给我 |
| 135 | Don't give me the tweet. | 不要给我的微博。 |
| 136 | I just, I already know. | 我只是,我已经知道了。 |
| 137 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 138 | I got really fascinated by the way you read because I thought there was | 我真的很喜欢你的阅读方式 因为我觉得有 |
| 139 | something wrong with me by doing that. | 我这样做有问题 |
| 140 | But you, | 不过你 |
| 141 | you don't really just read a book to completion. | 你不只是读一本书完成。 |
| 142 | You read and then you pick something else up and you just kind of go based on | 你读,然后你捡到别的东西, 你只是那种去根据 |
| 143 | your whims, whatever you're interested in. | 你的一时冲动, 无论你感兴趣的。 |
| 144 | I was raised by my, I was raised by a single mom in New York and she used the | 我从小由我长大 在纽约由单身妈妈抚养 她用 |
| 145 | local library as a daycare center because it was a very tough neighborhood. | 当地图书馆作为一个日托中心 因为它是一个非常艰难的街区。 |
| 146 | And so she would basically say, when you get back from school, | 所以她基本上会说, 当你从学校回来, |
| 147 | go straight to the library and don't come out until I pick you up late at night. | 直接去图书馆 直到我深夜来接你 |
| 148 | So I used to basically live in the library and I read everything. | 所以我基本上住在图书馆里,我读了一切。 |
| 149 | I read every magazine. | 我看过每本杂志 |
| 150 | I read every pictograph. | 我读了每一个象形图。 |
| 151 | I read every book or every map. | 我看过每本书或每张地图 |
| 152 | I just ran out of stuff to read. | 我刚没东西要读了 |
| 153 | I just read everything. | 我只是读了一切。 |
| 154 | So I got over this idea of that reading a large number of books or reading a | 所以,我得到了这个想法 阅读大量书籍或阅读一个 |
| 155 | book to completion as a vanity metric. | 成书到完成 作为虚度度度量。 |
| 156 | Cause really when people are putting up photos on Twitter, | 因为当人们在推特上张贴照片时 |
| 157 | Instagram of look at my pile of books that I'm reading, it's a show off thing. | 看看我所读的一堆书 简直是炫耀 |
| 158 | It's a signaling thing. | 示众. |
| 159 | And the reality is I would rather read the best a hundred | 而现实是,我宁愿读最好的100 |
| 160 | books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books. | 书籍反复,直到我吸收它们 而不是阅读所有的书。 |
| 161 | Right. | 对 |
| 162 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 163 | Cause your, your brain has finite information in a finite space. | 因为你的大脑在有限的空间里 拥有有限的信息 |
| 164 | You get enough advice that all cancels to zero. | 你得到足够的建议 所有取消为零。 |
| 165 | There's a lot of nonsense in books out there too. | 外书中也有很多胡说八道. |
| 166 | So I don't read any more to complete books. | 所以我不再看书了 |
| 167 | I read to satisfy my genuine intellectual curiosity and it can be anything. | 我读书是为了满足我真正的智力好奇心 它可以是任何事情。 |
| 168 | It could be nonsense. | 可能是胡说八道 |
| 169 | It could be history. | 可能是历史 |
| 170 | It could be fiction. | 它可能是虚构的。 |
| 171 | It could be science. | 这可能是科学。 |
| 172 | It could be sci-fi these days. | 现在可能是科幻片 |
| 173 | It's mostly sci-fi philosophy science. | 主要是科幻哲学科学. |
| 174 | Cause that's just what I'm interested in. | 因为这正是我感兴趣的。 |
| 175 | But I will read for understanding. | 但我会读到理解。 |
| 176 | So a really good book, | 所以,一个非常好的书, |
| 177 | I will flip through. | 我会翻过去 |
| 178 | I won't actually read it consecutively in order. | 我其实不会按顺序连读 |
| 179 | And I won't even just even finish it. | 我甚至不会完成它。 |
| 180 | I'm looking for ideas, | 我在找点想法 |
| 181 | things that I don't understand. | 我不懂的东西 |
| 182 | And when I find something really interesting, | 当我找到真正有趣的东西 |
| 183 | I'll reflect on it. | 我会考虑的 |
| 184 | I'll research it. | 我会研究的 |
| 185 | And then when I'm bored of it, | 然后当我厌倦它, |
| 186 | I'll drop it or I'll flip to another book. | 我会把它放下,否则我会翻到另一本书。 |
| 187 | Thanks to electronic books. | 感谢电子书。 |
| 188 | 我的Kindle或iBooks随时可以打开50到70本书 | |
| 189 | and I'm just bouncing around between them. | 我只是在他们之间摇摆不定 |
| 190 | It's also a little bit of a defense mechanism to how in modern society, | 对于现代社会来说 这也是个防御机制 |
| 191 | we get too much information too quickly. | 我们得到太多的信息太快。 |
| 192 | And so our attention spans are very low. | 所以我们的注意力非常小。 |
| 193 | 所以,你得到Twitter,你得到Instagram,你得到Facebook, | |
| 194 | you just used to being bombarded with information. | 你以前经常被情报轰炸 |
| 195 | So you can take that to, | 这样你就可以把它带到, |
| 196 | you can view that as a negative and be like, I have no attention span, | 你可以把这件事看成是负面的,就像,我没有注意范围, |
| 197 | or you could view that as a positive. | 或者你可以认为这是一个积极的。 |
| 198 | I multitask really well and I can dig really fast. | 我的任务很复杂,而且可以快速挖掘。 |
| 199 | I can, | 我当然可以 |
| 200 | if I find a thread that's interesting, | 如果我找到一条有趣的线 |
| 201 | I can follow through five social networks through the web, | 我可以通过网络跟踪五个社交网络 |
| 202 | through the libraries, through the books. | 通过图书馆,通过书籍。 |
| 203 | And I can really get to the bottom of this thing very quickly. | 我真的可以很快找到这个东西。 |
| 204 | It's like the library of Alexandria that I can research at my disposal. | 就像亚历山德里亚图书馆,我可以随时研究 |
| 205 | So I no longer track books read or even care about books read. | 所以我不再跟踪阅读的书籍,甚至关注阅读的书籍. |
| 206 | It's about understanding concepts. | 即是识解诸概念. |
| 207 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 208 | You brought up two awesome points. | 你提起两个惊人的点。 |
| 209 | First of all, | 首先,我们... |
| 210 | the social media aspect of books and basically anything. | 在社交媒体方面 书籍和基本上任何东西。 |
| 211 | It's like, | 这就像, |
| 212 | it's such a weird way to display your life because it's, you know, | 展示你生命的方式太奇怪了 因为... |
| 213 | you're displaying the best aspects of your life and some sort of a glass | 你在展示你生活最好的方面 和某种玻璃 |
| 214 | case, you know, just, | 情况,你知道,只是, |
| 215 | it's an unrealistic version of your life that you cultivate and you curate. | 这是一个不现实的版本 你的生活,你培育,你管理。 |
| 216 | And I'm, I'm as guilty of that as anybody. | 我和任何人一样 都有罪 |
| 217 | Everybody's guilty of it. | 每个人都有罪。 |
| 218 | I'm guilty of it too. | 我罪过也. |
| 219 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 220 | I mean, I pose with my dog every time I run. | 我每次跑的时候都和我的狗一起装 |
| 221 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 222 | We're always signaling. | 我们总是在发信号 |
| 223 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 224 | It's like, | 这就像, |
| 225 | rather than really looking at yourself, | 而不是真正看着自己, |
| 226 | you're looking at how other people look at you. | 你在看别人看你的样子 |
| 227 | So it's like this one remove mental image and it's kind of a disease because | 所以,它像这个 移除了精神形象, 它是一种疾病,因为 |
| 228 | social media is making celebrities of all of us and celebrities are the most | 社交媒体让我们所有人的名人和名人成为最 |
| 229 | miserable people in the world, right? | 世界上悲惨的人,对不对? |
| 230 | Because they have this strong self image that gets built up. | 因为他们有一个强大的自我形象 被建立起来。 |
| 231 | It gets built up by compliments every time somebody pays you or me a compliment | 每当有人向你或我致敬时,它就会被夸奖而积聚起来 |
| 232 | and we're like, Oh, well, thank you. | 我们就像, 哦,嗯,谢谢你。 |
| 233 | Right. | 对 |
| 234 | Then that builds up an image of who we are. | 那样就能塑造出我们的形象。 |
| 235 | And then one idiot comes along one out of 10, one out of a hundred, | 然后一个白痴来了 10,100, |
| 236 | and they can easily tear it down because it doesn't take many insults to cancel | 他们可以轻易地拆掉它 因为用不着太多的侮辱来取消 |
| 237 | out a lot of compliments. | 非常感谢你 |
| 238 | And now you're carrying around this big weighty self image and it's just very | 现在,你带着这个巨大的 重量的自我形象,它只是非常 |
| 239 | easy to be attacked. | 很容易被攻击。 |
| 240 | And because you're, you're famous or you're well known, | 因为你是,你是名人 还是你众所周知, |
| 241 | people want to attack you. | 人们想攻击你 |
| 242 | So being a celebrity is no good. | 所以当名人可不好 |
| 243 | It's actually a problem. | 这其实是一个问题。 |
| 244 | Like one of my tweets is, | 就像我的一个微博是, |
| 245 | and these are all reminders to myself is you want to be rich and anonymous, | 这些都提醒我,你想要有钱和匿名 |
| 246 | not poor and famous, right? | 不是穷又出名 对吧? |
| 247 | There's benefits to it. | 亦有益处. |
| 248 | Of course, of course, but we wouldn't do it. | 当然,当然,但我们不会这样做。 |
| 249 | It has unusual problems that you don't get trained | 难免你没受过训练 |
| 250 | for and you really will not understand unless you experience it. | 除非你亲身体验 否则你不会明白的 |
| 251 | You know, I was having this conversation with my wife. | 你知道,我正和我妻子谈话 |
| 252 | We were talking about people that just come up to you and they don't care what | 我们谈论的人 刚刚到你 他们不在乎什么 |
| 253 | you're doing. | 你这样做。 |
| 254 | They don't care if I'm with my daughter, if I'm holding her, | 他们不在乎我和我女儿在一起 如果我抱着她 |
| 255 | if I'm feeding her, if we're, you know, | 如果我喂她, 如果我们,你知道, |
| 256 | we're in the middle of an intense conversation. | 我们正忙着谈话呢 |
| 257 | She's crying. | 她哭着呢 |
| 258 | She could be crying and some bro will come over and just immediately have to | 她可能哭着说 有个兄弟会过来的 马上就要来了 |
| 259 | take a picture. | 拍张照片。 |
| 260 | Doesn't care. | 无所谓 |
| 261 | His needs supersede the daughter. | 他的需要超过了女儿 |
| 262 | And my wife was saying that before she knew me, | 我妻子在认识我之前就说过 |
| 263 | she used to think that that's just part of the price of being famous, | 她曾经认为这只是出名的代价的一部分, |
| 264 | that people, people like you, that's just part of the price of being famous. | 像你这样的人 那只是出名的代价之一 |
| 265 | And now when it interrupts her life and, you know, | 当它打断了她的生活,你知道, |
| 266 | it interrupts the children and it interrupts friends and you know, | 它打断了孩子们, 它打断了朋友,你知道, |
| 267 | she now she's like, this is annoying. | 她现在喜欢, 这很烦人。 |
| 268 | Like this is not, this is not healthy. | 像这样,这是不健康的。 |
| 269 | This is not a smart way to interact with people and that people have this weird | 这不是一个聪明的方法 与人互动 人们有这种奇怪的 |
| 270 | challenge, this weird thing that if you're, if you become famous, | 挑战,这个奇怪的事情 如果你是,如果你变得出名, |
| 271 | there's this weird challenge where people just want to come to you, | 有一个奇怪的挑战 人们只是想来找你, |
| 272 | especially today, because if they can get a photo of you, | 特别是今天 因为如果他们能得到你的照片 |
| 273 | then that boosts their social media profile. | 这样就能提升他们的社交媒体形象 |
| 274 | Like, Hey, | 喜欢,嘿, |
| 275 | I'm sitting here with the vault. | 我坐在这里与金库。 |
| 276 | Look at this. | 看看这个。 |
| 277 | Anonymity is a privilege. | 匿名是一种特权。 |
| 278 | On the other hand is self-inflicted. | 彼则自性. |
| 279 | I mean, | 我是说... |
| 280 | we bought it on ourselves. | 我们自己买的 |
| 281 | I don't think we knew what it was though. | 我想我们不知道是什么 |
| 282 | We did, | 我们做到了, |
| 283 | but we carry on. | 但我们继续前进。 |
| 284 | So it tells us we are getting something out of it. | 因此,它告诉我们,我们正在得到的东西出来。 |
| 285 | So you know, | 这么说吧 |
| 286 | there are times when someone will approach me in public and I'm a little | 有时候有人会在公共场合接近我 而我有点 |
| 287 | resentful. | 讨厌 |
| 288 | And there are other times I'm just like, actually, | 还有其他一些时候,我只是喜欢,实际上, |
| 289 | I'm really grateful that, you know, I worked for this. | 我真的很感激,你知道, 我为这个工作。 |
| 290 | I got this, right? | 我得到了这个,对不对? |
| 291 | This is the payoff. | 这是报酬。 |
| 292 | Just embrace it, smile, grin, and bear it, meet someone. | 拥抱它,微笑,微笑, 忍受它,见一个人。 |
| 293 | You have a different sort of celebrity too, right? | 你也有不同的名人 对吧? |
| 294 | You're, | 琌 |
| 295 | you're a hero amongst investors and amongst, I mean, you've just been a hero. | 你是投资者中的英雄 而在其中 你只是个英雄 |
| 296 | Among young male geeks, | 在年轻男性怪胎中 |
| 297 | which is some of my favorite people, right? | 那是我最喜欢的人,对吧? |
| 298 | But that's not the kind of celebrity I think most people set out to get, | 但是,这不是那种 名人我认为大多数人 开始得到, |
| 299 | especially most guys, right? | 尤其是大多数男人,对不对? |
| 300 | You want the cute females, you know? | 你想要可爱的女性,你知道吗? |
| 301 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 302 | 我看了我的YouTube短片 | |
| 303 | I'd have a tiny little podcast going now and it's like 95% male. | 我会有一个小播客 现在,它就像95%的男性。 |
| 304 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 305 | Yeah, this is very highly. | 是啊,这是非常高的。 |
| 306 | 18 to 35. | 18对35。 |
| 307 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 308 | We, what are we, what is the numbers? | 我们,我们是什么,是什么数字? |
| 309 | Yeah, it's in the nineties. | 是啊,这是90年代。 |
| 310 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 311 | Um, | 额... |
| 312 | you, you do that one, you do that one very small podcast where you just have | 你,你做那个,你做一个非常小的播客 在那里你刚刚有 |
| 313 | small like three or four minute clips. | 小如三四分钟的片段. |
| 314 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 315 | So what it was, | 那么,这是什么, |
| 316 | I did a tweet storm called how to get rich without getting lucky. | 我做了一个微博风暴,称如何发财而不走运。 |
| 317 | And it got pretty popular in Twitter. | 在推特上很受欢迎。 |
| 318 | And it's really about wealth creation. | 这其实是创造财富。 |
| 319 | I just use the click baby title and it's trying to basically lay out timeless | 我只是用点击的婴儿标题 它试图基本 铺设无时无刻 |
| 320 | principles of wealth creation that if you absorb them, | 创造财富的原则 如果你吸收它们, |
| 321 | you become the kind of person who can create wealth, create business, make money. | 你成为那种能创造财富,创造生意,赚钱的人. |
| 322 | And my theory behind that is like, there are three things everybody wants. | 我的理论就是,每个人都想要三件事。 |
| 323 | There's actually more than three, but let's just start with three, | 其实有3个以上 但从3个开始 |
| 324 | the three basics. | 三个基础。 |
| 325 | Everybody wants to be wealthy. | 每个人都想发财 |
| 326 | Everybody wants to be happy and everybody wants to be fit. | 每个人都想快乐,每个人都想适应 |
| 327 | And I know there's a lot of virtue signaling that goes on. | 我知道有很多的美德信号正在发生。 |
| 328 | Like we don't want to money and you know, | 就像我们不想钱,你知道, |
| 329 | I don't care about being happy and happiness is for stupid people, | 我不在乎快乐和幸福是愚蠢的人, |
| 330 | but let's face it, like you want to be rich and happy and healthy. | 但让我们面对它, 就像你想富有,快乐,健康。 |
| 331 | That's the trifecta. | 这是三重奏。 |
| 332 | Now, of course you also want an internally calm state of | 现在,你当然也想要 一个内部平静的状态 |
| 333 | mind. | 头脑。 |
| 334 | You want a loving household. | 你想要一个可爱的家庭。 |
| 335 | So there are other things that come into it, | 所以,还有其他的东西 进入它, |
| 336 | but those three, I think they can actually be taught, right? | 但这三个人,我认为他们实际上可以被教导,对不对? |
| 337 | And a fitness, | 和健身, |
| 338 | I'm not going to teach. | 师不教. |
| 339 | There are a lot of people who you've had on here, | 有很多人你在这里, |
| 340 | including yourself who know a heck of a lot more about fitness and health than I | 包括你 比我更了解健身和健康 |
| 341 | do. | 说吧 |
| 342 | But I was born poor and miserable and I'm now pretty well off and I'm very | 但我生来就很穷,很悲惨,我现在很幸福,我非常 |
| 343 | happy. | 快乐 |
| 344 | And I don't, and I worked at those. | 而我没有,我在那些工作。 |
| 345 | And so I've learned a few things. | 于是学了几事. |
| 346 | There are some principles and so I try to lay them out, | 有些原则,所以我试着阐明 |
| 347 | but in a timeless manner where you can kind of figure it out yourself. | 但以无时无刻的方式,你可以自己去想清楚。 |
| 348 | Cause at the end of the day, I can't really teach anything. | 因为最后,我什么也教不好 |
| 349 | I can only inspire you and maybe give you a few hooks so you can remember things | 我只能给你灵感,也许给你一些钩子 这样你就能记住一些事情 |
| 350 | when they happen or put a name to them. | 当他们发生,或给他们起个名字。 |
| 351 | So this podcast actually ended up explaining this tweet storm. | 所以这个播客实际上最终解释了这个推特风暴. |
| 352 | So the tweet storm was like 36, 38 tweets, got very famous, | 所以推特暴风雨像36,38个推特,变得非常出名, |
| 353 | got translated dozens of languages. | 翻译了几十种语言。 |
| 354 | And these were principles that I came up with for myself when I was really young | 这些原则是我年轻时为自己想出来的 |
| 355 | around 13, 14. | 13,14号左右 |
| 356 | And I've been carrying them in my head for 30 years and I've been sort of living | 30年来,我一直怀着它们 一直生活着 |
| 357 | them. | 他们。 |
| 358 | And over time I just realized like, sadly, or fortunately, | 随着时间的推移,我才意识到, 可悲的,或幸运的, |
| 359 | the thing that I got really good at was looking at businesses and figuring out | 我真正擅长的是看企业 和找出 |
| 360 | the point of maximum leverage to actually create wealth and capture some of that | 最大的杠杆点 实际创造财富和抓住一些 |
| 361 | and do it in a very long-term kind of way. | 并用非常长期的方式做到这一点。 |
| 362 | Not, not the, you know, | 没有,你知道, |
| 363 | banker crash the economy, build out kind of way, but, you know, | 银行家崩溃了经济, 建设出一种方式, 但是,你知道, |
| 364 | build businesses and help people and provide value kind of way, | 建立企业 帮助人们 提供价值类型的方式, |
| 365 | especially when applied to modern technology and leverage in this age of infinite | 特别是当应用到现代技术和杠杆时代 |
| 366 | leverage that we live in. | 我们生活的杠杆。 |
| 367 | So the podcast is just explaining each tweet. | 所以播客只是解释每个推文。 |
| 368 | So these are little three, four, five minutes snippets. | 这些是3,4,5分钟的小片段。 |
| 369 | I don't like to say the same thing twice. | 亦不乐说二乘. |
| 370 | I don't like to explain in detail. | 我不想详细解释 |
| 371 | I just, I feel like if you have something original and interesting to say, | 我只是,我觉得如果你有 独创和有趣的东西说, |
| 372 | you should say it. | 你应该说出来。 |
| 373 | Otherwise it's probably been said better. | 否则,也许有人说得更好。 |
| 374 | So that podcast tries to be information dense. | 所以播客尝试信息密集。 |
| 375 | It tries to be very concise. | 它试图非常简洁。 |
| 376 | It tries to be high impact. | 它试图产生很大的影响。 |
| 377 | It tries to be timeless. | 它试图是永恒的。 |
| 378 | And it has all the information. | 它拥有所有的信息。 |
| 379 | I think you need the principles that if you absorb these and you work hard over | 我认为你需要原则 如果你吸收这些 并努力工作 |
| 380 | 10 years, you get what you want. | 十年,你得到你想要的东西。 |
| 381 | So I've got the one on wealth creation. | 所以我得到了一个关于创造财富。 |
| 382 | I'm going to attempt to do one on happiness is a big word, but, you know, | 我试图做一个 关于幸福是一个大字, 但是,你知道, |
| 383 | happiness and inner peace and calm and all that, | 幸福 内心平静 平静 这一切 |
| 384 | because what you want is you don't want to be the guy who succeeds in life while | 因为你想要的是你不想成为 在生活中成功的人 |
| 385 | being high, strong, high stress and unhappy and leading the trail of emotional | 高,强,强 压力和不高兴 和引领的线索情感 |
| 386 | wreckage with you and your loved ones. | 你和你的亲人一起残骸 |
| 387 | Which is more common than not. | 这比不常见。 |
| 388 | Because you got to focus and it's very hard to be great at everything. | 因为你得集中精神 做任何事都很难 |
| 389 | You want to be the guy or the gal who gets there calmly, you know, | 你想成为男人或女孩 谁得到那里平静,你知道, |
| 390 | quietly, uh, without struggle. | 安静,呃,没有挣扎。 |
| 391 | Uh, | 额... |
| 392 | you want to be the person who's the, when there's a crisis going on, | 你想成为那个人 当危机发生时 |
| 393 | you want to be the calmest, coolest cucumber in the room who still also figures | 你想成为房间里最冷静,最酷的黄瓜... ...他仍然认为 |
| 394 | out the correct answer. | 给出正确的答案。 |
| 395 | If you can be. | 若能尔. |
| 396 | You were one of the things that you were saying is that you feel like happiness | 你刚才说的其中一件事 就是觉得自己像幸福 |
| 397 | is something that you can learn and then you can teach yourself to be happy. | 这是你能够学习的东西 然后你可以教自己快乐。 |
| 398 | Even just by adopting the mindset that you are a happy person and proclaiming | 即使只是接受你是一个快乐的人 并宣布 |
| 399 | that to your friends. | 给你朋友的 |
| 400 | And so you've sort of developed a social contract. | 所以,你已经形成了一种社会契约。 |
| 401 | I'm a happy person. | 我是一个快乐的人。 |
| 402 | And then I'll have to live up to that. | 则得成就. |
| 403 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 404 | I've got hundreds of techniques, but then how did you develop that one? | 我有上百种技术,但你是如何开发的? |
| 405 | Well, there's just a, there's social consistency, right? | 嗯,只有一个,有 社会一致性,对不对? |
| 406 | Humans have a need to be highly consistent with their past pronouncements. | 人类需要高度符合他们过去的声明。 |
| 407 | So the way I started my first tech company was I was in a, | 我创办第一家科技公司的方式是 |
| 408 | in working inside a larger organization and I told everybody that I was going to | 在一个更大的组织里工作 我告诉大家我打算 |
| 409 | go start a company. | 去开个公司 |
| 410 | I was like, I hate this place. | 我很喜欢,我讨厌这个地方。 |
| 411 | We would do my own thing. | 我们会做我自己的事情。 |
| 412 | I'm going to be successful entrepreneur. | 我会成为成功的企业家。 |
| 413 | Six months past nine months pass. | 9个月过去了6个月 |
| 414 | Then people start getting, you're still here. | 然后人们开始得到, 你还在这里。 |
| 415 | I thought you were going to go start a company. | 我以为你要去开个公司 |
| 416 | Are you lying? | 你在撒谎吗? |
| 417 | Right. | 对 |
| 418 | That was the implication. | 这就是它的含义。 |
| 419 | So we kind of know this, right? | 所以,我们有点知道这一点,对不对? |
| 420 | Social contracts are very powerful. | 社会契约非常有力. |
| 421 | Like if you want to give up drinking, right. | 就像你想放弃喝酒,对吗? |
| 422 | And you're not serious about it. | 而你却不是认真的 |
| 423 | You'll say, I'm going to cut back. | 你会说,我要削减。 |
| 424 | I'm going to have only one drink a night. | 今夜只饮一杯. |
| 425 | I'm going to only drink on weekends. | 周末我只喝两杯 |
| 426 | You tell yourself, but if you're serious, you'll announce it on Facebook. | 你告诉自己,但如果你是认真的,你会在Facebook上宣布. |
| 427 | You'll tell all your friends, you'll tell your wife, you'll say, I'm done drinking. | 你会告诉你所有的朋友, 你会告诉你的妻子, 你会说,我喝完了。 |
| 428 | I'm throwing everything out of the house. | 将一切众生悉皆舍弃. |
| 429 | You'll never see me drink again. | 你再也见不到我喝酒了 |
| 430 | When you say that, you know, you're serious. | 当你说,你知道,你是认真的。 |
| 431 | So I think a lot of these are choices that we make and happiness is just one of | 所以,我认为很多这些是 我们作出的选择 幸福只是其中之一 |
| 432 | those choices. | 这些选择。 |
| 433 | And this is unpopular to say cause there are people who are actually depressed, | 这是不受欢迎的 因为有的人实际上 抑郁, |
| 434 | you know, chemically or what have you. | 你知道,从化学角度或你有什么。 |
| 435 | And there are people who don't believe that it's possible because then it creates | 也有人不相信这有可能 因为那样就创造了 |
| 436 | a responsibility on them. | 他们的责任。 |
| 437 | It says, Oh, now if I'm, | 上面写着 如果我是 |
| 438 | you're saying if I'm not happy, that's my fault. | 你是说如果我不高兴 那是我的错 |
| 439 | I'm not saying that, | 我不是说, |
| 440 | but I'm saying that just like fitness can be a choice. | 但我是说,就像健身一样 是可以选择的。 |
| 441 | Health can be a choice. | 健康可以是一个选择。 |
| 442 | Nutrition can be a choice. | 营养可以是一个选择。 |
| 443 | Working hard and making money can be a choice. | 努力工作赚钱可能是一种选择。 |
| 444 | Happiness is also a choice. | 幸福也是一个选择。 |
| 445 | If you're so smart, how come you aren't happy? | 如果你这么聪明 你怎么不高兴? |
| 446 | How can you haven't figured that out? | 你怎么还没搞清楚呢? |
| 447 | That's my challenge to all the people who think they're so smart and so capable. | 这就是我对所有认为自己聪明能干的人的挑战. |
| 448 | If you're so smart and capable, why can't you change this? | 如果你这么聪明能干,为什么不能改变这个? |
| 449 | There are a bunch of people though, that actually take pleasure in being miserable. | 但是,有一群人, 这实际上是享受 痛苦。 |
| 450 | There's something about the pursuit of excellence and of success that supersedes | 追求优异和成功 一定能取代 |
| 451 | all other pursuits that in their eyes, it is, | 在他们眼中,其他所有追逐者,都是 |
| 452 | it is the peak, the pinnacle, the most important thing. | 这是顶峰,顶峰,最重要的东西。 |
| 453 | It's not a trade off. | 这不是交易 |
| 454 | I would argue that it, no, when I say happy, | 我会说,它,没有, 当我说快乐, |
| 455 | happy is one of those words that means a zillion different things. | 快乐是其中之一 意味着千千万万不同的东西。 |
| 456 | Right. | 对 |
| 457 | It's like love, right? | 这就像爱,对不对? |
| 458 | What does that mean? | 这是什么意思? |
| 459 | Right. | 对 |
| 460 | I love cheese. | 我喜欢奶酪。 |
| 461 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 462 | I'm going to define it a little bit more tightly, right? | 我将更严格地定义它,对不对? |
| 463 | So let's go back to desire, right? | 所以,让我们回到欲望,对不对? |
| 464 | This is old, old Buddhist wisdom. | 这是古老的佛教智慧。 |
| 465 | I'm not saying anything original, | 我不是说任何原创的, |
| 466 | but desire to me is a contract that you make with yourself to be unhappy until | 但渴望我是一个合同 你与自己 不高兴,直到 |
| 467 | you get what you want. | 你得到你想要的东西。 |
| 468 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 469 | And I keep that in front of mind. | 我将这一点放在心前。 |
| 470 | So when I'm unhappy about something, | 所以当我不高兴的时候 |
| 471 | I look for what is the underlying desire that I have that's not being fulfilled. | 我寻找我根本的愿望是什么 没有得到实现 |
| 472 | It's okay to have desires. | 有欲无碍. |
| 473 | You're a biological creature and you're part on this | 你是一个生物,你是这个的一部分 |
| 474 | earth. | 尘土 |
| 475 | You have to do something. | 你必须做点什么。 |
| 476 | You have to have desires. | 你必须有欲望。 |
| 477 | You have a mission, but don't have too many. | 你有一个任务,但不要太多。 |
| 478 | Don't pick them up unconsciously. | 别无意识地捡起来 |
| 479 | Don't pick them up randomly. | 别随机取来. |
| 480 | Don't have thousands of them. | 莫有千载. |
| 481 | My coffee is too cold. | 我的咖啡太凉了 |
| 482 | Doesn't taste quite right. | 味道不太对劲 |
| 483 | I'm not sitting perfectly. | 我坐的不够完美 |
| 484 | Oh, I wish it were warmer. | 哦,我希望它更温暖。 |
| 485 | Uh, you know, oh, my dog, you know, pooped in the lawn. | 呃,你知道,哦,我的狗, 你知道,在草坪上大便。 |
| 486 | I didn't like that. | 我不喜欢这样 |
| 487 | Whatever it is, pick your one overwhelming desire. | 不管是什么 选择你最强烈的欲望 |
| 488 | It's okay to suffer over that one, | 受苦也没关系, |
| 489 | but on all the others you want to let them go so you can be calm and peaceful | 但对于其他人,你想让他们走 这样你就可以平静和平静 |
| 490 | and relaxed. | 放松点 |
| 491 | And then you'll perform a better job. | 然后你会做一个更好的工作。 |
| 492 | Most people, when you're unhappy, like a depressed person, | 大多数人,当你不高兴, 像一个抑郁的人, |
| 493 | it's not that they have very clear, calm mind. | 这并不是说他们有 非常清楚,冷静的头脑。 |
| 494 | They're too busy in their mind. | 他们太忙了 |
| 495 | The sense of self is too strong. | 自觉过于坚固. |
| 496 | They're sitting indoors all the time. | 常坐室内. |
| 497 | Their minds working, working, working. | 他们的头脑工作,工作,工作。 |
| 498 | They're thinking too much. | 他们的想法太多了。 |
| 499 | Well, | 那个 |
| 500 | if you want to be a high performance athlete, | 如果你想成为一名优秀的运动员 |
| 501 | how good of an athlete are you going to be if you're always having epileptic | 如果你总是有癫痫症 你会有多优秀 |
| 502 | seizures? | 癫痫? |
| 503 | If you're always like twitching and running around and like jumping in your, | 如果你总是喜欢 抽搐和跑来跑去 喜欢跳进你的, |
| 504 | your, your limbs are flailing out of control the same way. | 你的四肢同样失控 |
| 505 | If you want to be effective in business, you need a clear, calm, | 如果你想在生意上有效, 你需要一个清晰,冷静, |
| 506 | cool collected mind. | 冷静的心智。 |
| 507 | Warren Buffett plays bridge all day long and goes for walks | 沃伦·巴菲特整天玩桥牌 散步 |
| 508 | in the sun. | 在太阳中。 |
| 509 | He doesn't sit around like constantly loading his brain with nonstop | 他不会坐视不管 不停地把脑子塞满 |
| 510 | information and, and, and getting worked up about every little thing. | 信息,和,和, 并变得兴奋 每一件小事情。 |
| 511 | We live in an age of infinite leverage. | 我们生活在一个无限杠杆时代。 |
| 512 | What I mean by that is that your actions can be multiplied a thousand fold either | 我的意思是 你的动作也可以乘以千倍 |
| 513 | by broadcasting at a podcast or by investing capital or by having people work | 通过播客广播或通过投资资本或让人们工作 |
| 514 | for you or by writing code. | 或写代码。 |
| 515 | So because of that, | 所以因为这个 |
| 516 | the impacts of good decision-making are much higher than they used to be because | 良好决策的影响远高于以往,因为 |
| 517 | now you can influence thousands or millions of people through your decisions | 现在你可以通过你的决定 影响成千上万或数百万人 |
| 518 | or your code. | 或者你的密码 |
| 519 | So a clear mind leads to better judgment, | 因此,一个清晰的头脑 导致更好的判断, |
| 520 | leads to better outcome. | 导致更好的结果。 |
| 521 | So a happy, calm, | 那么快乐,冷静 |
| 522 | peaceful person will make better decisions and have better outcomes. | 和平人士将作出更好的决定,取得更好的结果。 |
| 523 | So if you want to operate at peak performance, | 所以,如果你想操作 在峰值性能, |
| 524 | you have to learn how to tame your mind, | 你要学会如何驯服你的思想, |
| 525 | just like you have to learn how to tame your body. | 就像你必须学会如何驯服你的身体 |
| 526 | I love what you're saying. | 我喜欢你说的 |
| 527 | Um, | 额... |
| 528 | Warren Buffett might not be the best example cause he drinks like, | 沃伦·巴菲特可能不是最好的榜样 因为他喝酒喜欢, |
| 529 | I think six Coca-Cola's a day and he eats mostly McDonald's. | 我认为六可口可乐一天 他主要吃麦当劳 |
| 530 | And he's still alive somehow. | 他还活着 |
| 531 | So that shows you that low stress is more important than shit. | 这说明低压力比狗屎更重要。 |
| 532 | Like how old is he? | 他几岁了? |
| 533 | I mean, he's, he's a fairly old man. | 我的意思是,他是一个相当老的人。 |
| 534 | Charlie Mungers, I think in his nineties, right? | 查理・芒格斯,我想他90年代,对不对? |
| 535 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 536 | Made it really far. | 跑得很远 |
| 537 | I wonder what Warren's doing. | 我想知道沃伦在做什么 |
| 538 | You know, I mean, just he's got to know that's bad | 你知道,我的意思是,只是他必须知道 这是不好的 |
| 539 | for him, but he doesn't care. | 为了他,但他不在乎。 |
| 540 | He doesn't care. | 他不关心。 |
| 541 | I think he's just low stress. | 我觉得他压力不大 |
| 542 | Yes. | 对 |
| 543 | Right. | 对 |
| 544 | So he's just enjoys that Coca-Cola and that's probably, | 所以他只是喜欢可口可乐 这可能是, |
| 545 | maybe there is a trade off, right? | 也许有交易,对不对? |
| 546 | Like maybe him enjoying that junk food and that Coke just, ah, | 也许他喜欢吃垃圾食品和可乐 |
| 547 | that the pleasing of the mind is maybe better than him just eating wheatgrass | 和他吃麦草相比 心灵的欢快也许更好 |
| 548 | shots and salads and just being, yeah, | 镜头和沙拉,只是,是的, |
| 549 | just super worked up about everything. | 只是超级激动起来的一切。 |
| 550 | It's like if you need your glass of red wine and de-stress and calm down, | 这就像如果你需要 您的杯红酒 和解除紧张和冷静下来, |
| 551 | that's probably better than you flying off the rails. | 那可能比你从铁路上飞走好 |
| 552 | Right, right. | 对,对。 |
| 553 | And I think that that's applicable, not just in business, | 我认为,这适用, 不仅仅是在商业, |
| 554 | but in probably any pursuit. | 但也许在任何追求。 |
| 555 | And I like what you're saying about, | 我喜欢你说的 |
| 556 | allow that one thing to be your obsession, | 让这件事成为你的痴迷 |
| 557 | but everything else just, you know, learn how to, learn how to let things go. | 但其他的一切只是,你知道, 学会如何,学会如何让事情走。 |
| 558 | Pick your battles. | 选择你的战斗。 |
| 559 | And we'd like to think that we like to view the world as linear, | 我们希望我们把世界看成线性 |
| 560 | which is I'm going to put in eight hours of work. | 我要花8个小时的工时 |
| 561 | I'm going to get back eight hours of output, right? | 我要拿回8小时的输出,对吧? |
| 562 | It doesn't work that way. | 它不工作那样。 |
| 563 | Guy running the corner grocery stores working just as hard or harder than you | 开街角杂货店的人 跟你一样辛苦 |
| 564 | and me. | 还有我 |
| 565 | How much output is he getting? | 他得到多少产出? |
| 566 | What you do, who you do with, | 你做什么,你对谁做什么, |
| 567 | how you do it, way more important than how hard you work, right? | 你怎么做到的 比努力工作更重要 对吧? |
| 568 | Outputs are nonlinear based on the quality of the work that you put in. | 产出是非线性的,基于你投入的工作的质量. |
| 569 | The right way to work is like a lion. | 正确的工作方式就像狮子一样. |
| 570 | You don't, you and I are not like cows. | 你没有,你和我 不喜欢牛。 |
| 571 | We're not meant to graze all day, right? | 我们不该整天吃草 对吧? |
| 572 | We're meant to hunt like lions. | 我们注定要像狮子一样猎杀 |
| 573 | We're closer to carnivores in our omnivorous development than we are to | 我们更接近食肉动物 在我们的全食发展 比我们更接近 |
| 574 | herbivores. | 食草动物。 |
| 575 | Um, we don't tell vegans that. | 嗯,我们不告诉素食主义者。 |
| 576 | Yeah, sorry. | 是的,对不起。 |
| 577 | Look, look, | 听着 听着 |
| 578 | I wish all that stuff worked. | 我希望这些东西都奏效。 |
| 579 | I don't want to eat meat. | 不食肉'. |
| 580 | Future generation will look back at us as worse than slavers, you know, | 后世会回顾我们比奴隶更糟糕 |
| 581 | because the Holocaust we're committing with the animals, | 因为我们在与动物进行大屠杀, |
| 582 | but they'll have artificial meats that taste in our healthier is better than | 但是,他们有人工肉 味道在我们更健康 比 |
| 583 | the real thing. | 真实的东西。 |
| 584 | So allegedly allegedly, but so as a, | 据称,但作为一个, |
| 585 | as a modern knowledge worker athlete, as an intellectual athlete, | 作为现代知识工作者的运动员 作为智力运动员 |
| 586 | you want to function like an athlete, which means you train hard, | 你想像运动员一样工作, 这意味着你训练得非常努力, |
| 587 | then you sprint, then you rest, then you reassessed, | 然后冲刺,然后休息,然后重新评估, |
| 588 | you get your feedback loop, then you train some more, then you sprint again, | 你得到你的反馈循环, 然后你训练更多, 然后你再次冲刺, |
| 589 | then you rest, then you reassess this idea that you're going to have linear | 然后你休息,然后你重新评估 这个想法,你会有线性 |
| 590 | output just by cranking every day at the same amount of time saying that that's, | 每天在相同的时间 不停地转动输出 |
| 591 | that's machines, you know, machines should be working nine to five. | 这是机器,你知道,机器应该工作 9到5。 |
| 592 | Humans are not meant to work nine, are not meant to work nine to five. | 人类本意不是工作九,不是工作九五. |
| 593 | No, I agree wholeheartedly, but that's it. | 不,我完全同意,但就这样 |
| 594 | For people that are working for someone, there's not really that option. | 对于为某人工作的人来说,实际上没有这个选择. |
| 595 | So that's unfortunately the rub, right? | 很不幸,这是擦伤,对不对? |
| 596 | That's kind of where my tweet storm | 我的微博暴风雨就是这样 |
| 597 | starts, which is first of all, | 开始,首先, |
| 598 | the first thing if you're going to make money is that you're not going to get | 如果你要赚钱,第一件事 就是你不会得到 |
| 599 | rich renting out your time. | 有钱租你的时间。 |
| 600 | Even lawyers and doctors who are charging three, | 即使是律师和医生 谁起诉三, |
| 601 | four or $500 an hour, | 每小时4美元或500美元 |
| 602 | they're not getting rich because their lifestyle is slowly ramping up along | 他们不会发财,因为他们的生活方式 慢慢地上升 |
| 603 | with their income and they're not saving enough. | 和他们的收入 他们储蓄不足。 |
| 604 | Uh, they, | 呃,他们, |
| 605 | they just don't have that ability to retire. | 他们只是没有退休的能力。 |
| 606 | So the first thing you have to do is you have to own a piece of a business. | 所以,你要做的第一件事是,你必须拥有一个企业。 |
| 607 | You need to have equity either as an owner, an investor, | 作为所有者,投资人,你要有股权 |
| 608 | shareholder or a brand that you're building that accrues to you to gain your | 股东或你正在打造的品牌 积累给你的 |
| 609 | financial freedom. | 经济自由。 |
| 610 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 611 | And I was really fascinated by another thing that you were bringing up about | 我非常迷恋你提起的另一件事 |
| 612 | working for yourself that you feel in the future, | 为自己工作,你觉得未来, |
| 613 | whether it's 50 or a hundred years from now, | 无论是50年还是100年后 |
| 614 | virtually everyone is going to be working for themselves. | 几乎每个人都会为自己工作。 |
| 615 | And I believe the way you put it is that the information age is going to | 我相信你所说的话是 信息时代将 |
| 616 | reverse the industrial age. | 扭转工业时代。 |
| 617 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 618 | If you go back to hunter gatherer times, how we evolved, | 如果你回到猎人采集时间 我们是如何进化的 |
| 619 | we basically worked for ourselves. | 我们基本上为我们自己工作。 |
| 620 | We communicated and cooperated within tribes, | 我们在部落内部交流和合作, |
| 621 | but each hunter, each gatherer stood on their own and then combined their | 但每个猎人,每个采集者 自己站着,然后结合他们的 |
| 622 | resources with the family unit. | 家庭资源。 |
| 623 | But there was no boss hierarchy, hierarchy, | 但是没有领导阶层,领导阶层, |
| 624 | hierarchy where you're like the third middle manager down. | 你就像第三个中层经理 |
| 625 | Uh, | 额... |
| 626 | in the farming age, | 在农耕时代, |
| 627 | we became a little bit more hierarchical as we had to run farms, | 我们在经营农场时 变得有些分级 |
| 628 | but even those were still mostly family farms. | 但即使是那些 仍然主要是家庭农场。 |
| 629 | It's industrial work with factories that sort of created this model of | 它的工业工作与工厂 那种创建这种模式 |
| 630 | thousands of people working together on one thing and having bosses and | 成千上万的人一起工作 在一件事,有老板和 |
| 631 | schedules and times to show up. | 时间表和时间显示。 |
| 632 | The reality is if you have to go, | 现实是如果你必须离开 |
| 633 | I don't care how rich you are. | 我不管你多有钱 |
| 634 | I don't care whether you're like a top wall street banker. | 我不管你是不是顶级的街头银行家 |
| 635 | If you have to go, if somebody has to tell you, | 如果你必须去,如果有人要告诉你, |
| 636 | if somebody can tell you when to be at work and what to wear and how to behave, | 如果有人能告诉你什么时候上班 穿什么 怎么做 |
| 637 | you're not a free person. | 你不是个自由人 |
| 638 | You're not actually rich. | 你不是真的有钱。 |
| 639 | So we're in this model now where we think it's all about employment and jobs. | 所以,我们现在在这个模型中, 我们认为这是所有关于就业和工作。 |
| 640 | And intrinsic in that is that I have to work for somebody else, | 里面的内在是 我必须为别人工作, |
| 641 | but the information age is breaking that down. | 但信息时代正在破解 |
| 642 | So Ronald Coase is an economist who has this Coase theorem, very famous theorem, | 所以Ronald Coase是一个经济学家 他有这个Coase定理, 非常著名的定理, |
| 643 | but it basically just talks about why is a company the size that it is? | 但它基本上只是谈论 为什么一个公司是大小 它是什么? |
| 644 | Why is a company one person instead of 10 people instead of a hundred, | 为什么一个公司是一个人 而不是10人而不是100人 |
| 645 | instead of a thousand. | 而不是一千个 |
| 646 | And it has to do with the internal transaction costs versus the external | 与内部交易成本和外部交易成本有关 |
| 647 | transaction costs. | 交易费用。 |
| 648 | Let's say I want to do something. | 我想做点什么 |
| 649 | Uh, | 额... |
| 650 | let's say I'm building a house and I need someone to come in and provide the | 假设我正在盖房子 我需要有人进来提供 |
| 651 | lumber. | 木材. |
| 652 | I'm a developer, right? | 我是一个开发商,对不对? |
| 653 | Do I want that to be part of my company or do I want that to be an external | 我想成为我公司的一部分 还是想成为外人 |
| 654 | provider? | 供应商? |
| 655 | A lot of it just depends on how hard it is to do that transaction with someone | 大部分都取决于和别人做交易有多难 |
| 656 | externally versus internally. | 对外对内. |
| 657 | If it's too hard to keep doing the contract every time externally, | 如果每次外出都很难继续履行合同 |
| 658 | I'll bring that in house. | 我会把那个带进来的 |
| 659 | If it's easy to do externally and it's a one-off kind of thing, | 如果它很容易做 并且它是一次性的事情, |
| 660 | I'd rather keep it out of the house. | 宁令其出门. |
| 661 | Well, | 那个 |
| 662 | information technology is making it easier and easier to do these transactions | 信息技术使这些交易更容易进行 |
| 663 | externally. | 对外. |
| 664 | It's becoming much easier to communicate with people. | 与人交流变得容易多了. |
| 665 | Gig economy, | 吉格经济, |
| 666 | I can send you small amounts of money. | 我可以寄些小钱给你 |
| 667 | I can hire you through an app. | 我可以通过一个应用程序来雇用你。 |
| 668 | I can rate you afterwards. | 我以后可以给你评分 |
| 669 | So we're seeing an atomization of the firm. | 因此,我们看到公司被原子化。 |
| 670 | We're seeing the optimal size of the firm shrinking. | 我们看到公司的最佳规模正在缩小。 |
| 671 | It's most obvious in Silicon Valley, | 在硅谷最明显 |
| 672 | tons and tons of startups constantly coming up and shaving off little pieces of | 数以千计的初创企业不断涌现 刮掉小块 |
| 673 | businesses from large companies and turning them into huge markets. | 企业从大公司 并把它们变成巨大的市场。 |
| 674 | So what looked like the small little vacation rental market on Craigslist is now | 克雷格斯利斯特的小型度假租房市场现在 |
| 675 | suddenly blown up into Airbnb. | 突然被炸飞到空气中 |
| 676 | One example. | 一个例子。 |
| 677 | That's a great example. | 这是一个伟大的例子。 |
| 678 | But what I think we're going to see is whether it's 10, 20, 50, | 但我想我们会看到 是否是10,20,50, |
| 679 | a hundred years from now, high quality work will be available. | 100年后,将可提供高质量的工作。 |
| 680 | We're not talking about now driving an Uber. | 我们现在不是说开Uber车 |
| 681 | We're talking about super high quality work will be available in a gig fashion | 我们说的是 超高品质的工作 将以表演的方式提供 |
| 682 | where you'll wake up in the morning, | 在那里你早上醒来, |
| 683 | your phone will buzz and you'll have five different jobs from people who have | 你的电话会响,你会有五个不同的工作 与有 |
| 684 | worked with you in the past or have been referred to you. | 过去曾与你合作 或被推荐给你 |
| 685 | It's kind of like how Hollywood already works a little bit with how they | 这有点像好莱坞已经工作了一点 他们是如何 |
| 686 | organize for a project. | 组织一个项目。 |
| 687 | You decide where to take the project or not. | 你决定在哪里接受项目与否。 |
| 688 | The contract is right there on the spot. | 合同就在这里 |
| 689 | You get paid a certain amount and you get rated every day or every week. | 你得到一定的薪水 并且你得到评分 每天或每周。 |
| 690 | You get the money delivered and then when you're done working, | 你拿到钱,然后当你工作完成, |
| 691 | you turn it off and you go to Tahiti or wherever you want to spend the next three | 你关掉它,然后去大溪地 或者你想花下三个地方 |
| 692 | months. | 几个月。 |
| 693 | And I think the smart people have already started figuring out that the internet | 我认为聪明人已经开始发现互联网 |
| 694 | enables this and they're starting to work more and more remotely on their own | 他们开始越来越远地自己工作 |
| 695 | schedule, on their own time, | 计划,在他们自己的时间, |
| 696 | on their own place with their own friends in their own way. | 以自己的方式和朋友在一起 |
| 697 | And that's actually how we are the most productive. | 这就是我们最有生产力的。 |
| 698 | So the information revolution by making it easier to communicate, connect, | 因此,信息革命 使得它更容易沟通,连接, |
| 699 | and cooperate is allowing us to go back to working for ourselves. | 合作让我们可以回去为自己工作。 |
| 700 | And that is my ultimate dream. | 这就是我的终极梦想。 |
| 701 | Even when I run a company and I have employees, I always tell those people, | 即使我经营一个公司,我还有员工, 我总是告诉那些人, |
| 702 | Hey, I'm going to help you start your company when you're ready, | 嘿,我帮你开始你的公司 当你准备好了, |
| 703 | because I think that's the highest calling. | 因为我认为这是最高的号召。 |
| 704 | Maybe not everybody will get there, | 也许不是每个人都会到达那里, |
| 705 | but it would be fine if we were even working at 10 person company or 20 person | 但是如果我们在10个人公司或20个人工作,那也没关系 |
| 706 | company is way better than working in a thousand person company or 10,000 person | 公司比在千人公司或一万人公司工作要好得多 |
| 707 | company. | 连队。 |
| 708 | So this idea that we're all factory like cogs in a machine who are specialized | 所以,这个想法,我们都是工厂 像杂草在机器中 谁专门 |
| 709 | and have to do things by rote memorization or instruction is going to go away. | 并且不得不做一些事情 通过旋转的记忆 或指示会消失。 |
| 710 | And we're going to go back to being small groups of creative bands of | 我们又会回到 一小群创意乐队 |
| 711 | individuals setting out to do missions. | 准备执行任务的人。 |
| 712 | And when those missions are done, | 当这些任务完成时, |
| 713 | we collect our money, we get rated, | 我们收钱,我们得到评分 |
| 714 | and then we rest and reassess until we're ready for the next sprint. | 然后我们休息和重新评估 直到我们准备好下一次冲刺。 |
| 715 | Has there ever been a study done on happiness as it regards to the size of | 是否进行过关于幸福程度的研究? |
| 716 | companies? | 公司吗? |
| 717 | Not that I'm aware, but to me it's obvious. | 不是我知道的,但对我来说很明显 |
| 718 | It's just obvious the smaller the company, the happier you're going to be. | 公司越小,你就越高兴 |
| 719 | The more human your relations are, the less you have rules to operate under, | 你们的关系越是人性化 越没有规则来操作 |
| 720 | the more flexible, the more creative, | 越灵活 越有创意 |
| 721 | the more you be treated like a human just because you're able to do multiple | 越是像人类一样对待你 就因为你有能力做多重 |
| 722 | things. | 东西。 |
| 723 | This brings me to what is a subject that keeps getting brought up nowadays is | 这让我想到一个现在不断提起的话题 |
| 724 | universal basic income with the oncoming apocalypse of automation. | 普遍的基本收入与即将到来的自动化启示。 |
| 725 | This is how it's being portrayed by Andrew Yang, who's running for president. | 竞选总统的杨安德鲁就是这样描绘的. |
| 726 | I sat down and talked with him about it. | 我坐下来和他谈了 |
| 727 | It's very compelling and he's a very | 很有说服力,他是个非常 |
| 728 | smart guy and he's an entrepreneur himself. | 聪明人,他也是企业家 |
| 729 | And when he starts talking about automation and how it's going to just | 当他开始谈论自动化 和如何去 |
| 730 | eliminate massive amounts of jobs and leave people stranded, what do you, | 消除大量的工作 并留下人们搁浅,你, |
| 731 | I know you're a guy who thinks about the future. | 我知道你是个想未来的人 |
| 732 | I'm going to take the unpopular point of view on this. | 我要对此采取不受欢迎的观点. |
| 733 | I think it's a non-solution to a non-problem. | 我认为这是对一个非问题的一个不解. |
| 734 | And I mean that in the sense that automation has been happening since the dawn | 我意思是,从黎明开始自动化 |
| 735 | of time. | 时间。 |
| 736 | When electricity came along, that put a lot of people out of work. | 当电力出现, 这使得很多人失业。 |
| 737 | A lot of people carrying buckets of water and, you know, | 很多人带着水桶,你知道, |
| 738 | lighting lamps and all those kinds of things. | 灯光灯 和所有这些东西。 |
| 739 | And this was the concern with factories as well. | 这也是对工厂的关注。 |
| 740 | Everything, literally every single thing that comes along. | 所有的一切, 字面上所有的东西 来。 |
| 741 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 742 | And what it does is it frees people up for new creative work. | 它可以释放人们去从事新的创造性工作。 |
| 743 | So the question is not, is automation going to eliminate jobs? | 所以问题不是,自动化会消除工作吗? |
| 744 | There is no finite number of jobs. | 工作数量有限。 |
| 745 | We're not like sitting around dividing up the same jobs that were around since | 我们不喜欢坐在这里 分开同样的工作 从那时起 |
| 746 | the stone age. | 石头时代。 |
| 747 | So obviously new jobs are being created and they're usually better | 很明显,新的工作正在创造 并且他们通常更好 |
| 748 | jobs, more creative jobs. | 工作,更多的创造性工作。 |
| 749 | So the question is how quickly is this transition going to happen and what kinds | 因此,问题在于这个转变会有多快 以及是什么类型 |
| 750 | of jobs will be eliminated and what kinds of jobs will be created? | 将消除工作,创造何种工作? |
| 751 | It's impossible looking forward to predict what kinds of jobs will be created. | 无法预测会创造什么样的工作。 |
| 752 | If I told you 10 years ago that podcaster was going to be a job or that, | 如果我10年前告诉你 烤面包机会是一个工作或那, |
| 753 | you know, playing video games is going to be a job or commentating on video games | 你知道,玩电子游戏 将是工作或评论 电子游戏 |
| 754 | is going to be a job, you would have laughed me out of the room. | 你会笑我出门的 |
| 755 | Those are nonsense jobs, but yet here we are. | 这些是胡说八道的工作,但我们还是在这里。 |
| 756 | So society will always create new jobs. | 因此,社会将永远创造新的就业机会。 |
| 757 | Civilization creates new jobs, | 文明创造新的就业机会, |
| 758 | but it's impossible to predict what those jobs are. | 但无法预测这些工作是什么 |
| 759 | So the question is how quickly is that transition happening? | 那么,问题是如何迅速实现过渡? |
| 760 | Well, the reality is even though everybody keeps talking about this automation | 虽然大家都在谈论这个自动化 |
| 761 | apocalypse, we're at a record low unemployment. | 天启,我们的失业率创下历史新低。 |
| 762 | Explain that. | 解释一下 |
| 763 | Where's the transition? | 过渡在哪里? |
| 764 | Donald Trump. | 唐纳德·特朗普. |
| 765 | That's how, | 就是这样 |
| 766 | All I'm saying is it's, it's, it's, I don't see it in the numbers. | 我只是说,它,它,它,我不看它的数字。 |
| 767 | I don't see it actually happening. | 我看不出它真的发生。 |
| 768 | The question is how quickly can you retrain | 问题是你多快才能重新训练 |
| 769 | people? | 人吗? |
| 770 | So it's an education problem. | 所以这是一个教育问题。 |
| 771 | UBI的问题, | |
| 772 | there's a couple of problems with UBI. | UBI有几个问题 |
| 773 | One is you're creating a straight, | 第一,你在创造一个直线, |
| 774 | you're creating a slippery slide transfer straight into socialism, right? | 你正在创造一个滑滑的 直接转移到社会主义,对不对? |
| 775 | The moment people can start voting themselves money combined with a | 当人们可以开始投票自己 钱与一个 |
| 776 | democracy, it's just a matter of time before the bottom 51 votes themselves | 民主,这是时间问题 后51票本身 |
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| 778 | And it just, it, it, and by the slippery slope, | 它只是,它,它, 和滑坡, |
| 779 | fallacy is not a fallacy. | 谬误不是谬误 |
| 780 | And I know people like saying that, | 我知道人们喜欢说, |
| 781 | but they haven't thought it through. | 但他们还没想清楚 |
| 782 | But the moment you start having a direct transfer mechanism like that in a | 但是,当你开始有一个 直接转移机制 像在一个 |
| 783 | democracy, you're basically doing it with capitalism, | 民主,你基本上 做资本主义, |
| 784 | which is the engine of economic growth. | 这是经济增长的动力。 |
| 785 | You're also forcing the entrepreneurs out or telling them not to come here. | 你还强迫企业家们出来 或让他们不要来这里 |
| 786 | The estimate I saw for 15 K a year, | 估计一年15K |
| 787 | basic income for everybody would be three quarters of current GDP. | 每个人的基本收入将是目前国内生产总值的四分之三。 |
| 788 | And of course GDP was shrinking responses. | 当然,国内生产总值正在缩小。 |
| 789 | All the entrepreneurs fled. | 所有企业家都逃走了。 |
| 790 | So you would essentially bankrupt the country. | 这样你就可以彻底破产了 |
| 791 | Another issue with UBI is that people who are down in their luck, | 与UBI的另一个问题 是那些运气不好的人, |
| 792 | they're not looking for handouts. | 他们不是在找施舍 |
| 793 | It's not just about money. | 这不仅仅是钱。 |
| 794 | It's also about status. | 也是关于地位. |
| 795 | It's about meaning. | 是为义. |
| 796 | And the moment I start giving money to you and put you on the dole, | 当我开始给你钱 让你接受救济时 |
| 797 | I've lowered your status. | 我已经降低你的地位。 |
| 798 | I've made you a second class citizen. | 我让你成为二等公民 |
| 799 | So I have to give you meaning and meaning comes through education and | 所以我必须给你意义和意义 通过教育, |
| 800 | capability. | 能力。 |
| 801 | I have, | 我有过 |
| 802 | you have to teach a man to fish not to basically throw your rotting leftover | 你要教人钓鱼,不要把烂掉的剩菜扔了 |
| 803 | carcasses at him and say, here, eat the scraps. | 尸体在他面前说, 在这里,吃废品。 |
| 804 | So it doesn't solve the meaning problem. | 所以不能解决意义问题. |
| 805 | And lastly it's nonsense to hand 15 K out to everybody. | 最后,把15K交给大家是荒谬的。 |
| 806 | You want to means test people. | 你想测试别人 |
| 807 | There's no reason to give it to you and me. | 汝与我无缘. |
| 808 | So you end up back towards the welfare system where you do have to figure out | 所以,你最终回到福利系统 在那里你必须弄清楚 |
| 809 | who needs it and who doesn't. | 谁需要,谁不需要。 |
| 810 | So I think the better route is that we actually establish a set of basic | 因此,我认为更好的途径是,我们实际上建立一套基本 |
| 811 | substance services that you have to have. | 物质服务,你必须拥有。 |
| 812 | And we provide those in abundance to technology based automation. | 我们为技术自动化提供了丰富的技术。 |
| 813 | So get basic housing, get basic food, get basic transportation, | 获得基本住房 基本食物 基本交通 |
| 814 | get high, high speed internet access, get a phone in your pocket. | 上网速度快 手机在口袋里 |
| 815 | Those are the kinds of things you want to give people. | 这些是你想给人们的东西 |
| 816 | And finally, in terms of the rate of automation, | 最后,就自动化率而言, |
| 817 | I think we can educate people very quickly. | 我认为我们可以很快地教育人们。 |
| 818 | One of the myths that we have today is that adults can't be reeducated. | 我们今天有的神话之一是成年人不能再接受教育. |
| 819 | We view education as this thing where you go to school, | 我们把教育看作是你上学的地方 |
| 820 | you come out when you're out of college and you're done, no more education. | 大学毕业后就出来 不再接受教育 |
| 821 | Well, that's wrong. | 这不对 |
| 822 | You have all these great online bootcamps and coding schools coming up. | 这些优秀的在线基地和编码学校都来了 |
| 823 | They're ones that will even pay you to go there. | 他们甚至会付钱让你去那里 |
| 824 | Now you can educate people en masse and you can educate them into creative | 现在你可以教育大众 教育他们创造力 |
| 825 | professions. | 专业。 |
| 826 | People who are talking about AI, | 那些谈论AI的人, |
| 827 | automating programming have never really written serious code. | 自动编程从未真正写过严肃的代码。 |
| 828 | Coding is thinking. | 编码是思考。 |
| 829 | It's automatic structured thinking. | 自动结构化思维. |
| 830 | An AI that can program as well or better than humans is an AI that just took | 一个能比人类编程好或更好的人工智能 就是刚刚拿走的 |
| 831 | over the world. | 环绕世界 |
| 832 | That's end game. | 这是结束游戏。 |
| 833 | That's the end of the human species. | 这就是人类的终结 |
| 834 | And I can give you arguments why I don't think that's coming either. | 我可以给你一些论据,为什么我不觉得会这样 |
| 835 | People who are thinking, | 人们在想, |
| 836 | and I know I take the opposite side from some very famous people in this debate, | 我知道我在这场辩论中对一些非常有名的人持相反的态度, |
| 837 | but we're nowhere near close to general AI, not in our lifetimes. | 但我们离AI还差得远 我们这一辈子都没有 |
| 838 | You don't have to worry about it. | 亦不烦恼. |
| 839 | Even in our lifetimes, really. | 即使在我们的一生,真的。 |
| 840 | It's so overblown. | 太过份了 |
| 841 | It's another, it's a combination of Cassandra complex. | 是另一个,是卡珊德拉复合体的组合. |
| 842 | You know, it's fun to talk about the end of the world, | 你知道,这很有趣 谈论世界末日, |
| 843 | combined with a God complex, like people who have lost religion. | 和上帝的复合体结合 就像失去信仰的人 |
| 844 | So they're looking for meaning in some kind of end of history. | 所以他们在寻找某种历史末期的意义。 |
| 845 | The reason why I don't think AI is coming anytime soon is because a lot of the | 我之所以不认为AI会很快来 是因为很多 |
| 846 | advances in so-called AI today are what we call narrow AI. | 我们称之为狭义AI。 |
| 847 | They're really a pattern recognition, machine learning to figure out, | 他们真的是一个模式识别, 机器学习找出, |
| 848 | like what is that object on the screen or how do you find this signal in all of | 比如屏幕上那个物体是什么 或者你是如何在所有的屏幕上找到这个信号的 |
| 849 | that noise? | 那声音? |
| 850 | There is nothing approaching what we call creative thinking. | 没有什么接近我们所谓的创造性思维。 |
| 851 | To actually model general intelligence, you run into all kinds of problems. | 为了模拟一般智能, 你遇到了各种各样的问题。 |
| 852 | First, we don't know how the brain works at all. | 首先,我们根本不知道大脑是如何工作的。 |
| 853 | Number two, | 二号 |
| 854 | we've never even modeled a paramecium or an amoeba, let alone a human brain. | 我们甚至从来没有模拟过 半氨酸或阿莫埃巴, 更不用说人类的大脑。 |
| 855 | Number three, | 三号 |
| 856 | there's this assumption that all of the computation is going at the cellular | 假设所有的计算都在细胞上进行 |
| 857 | level at the neuron level, whereas nature is very parsimonious. | 神经元水平,而自然则非常模糊。 |
| 858 | It uses everything at its disposal. | 其用一切处. |
| 859 | There's a lot of machinery inside the cell that is doing calculations, | 细胞内部有很多机器在进行计算 |
| 860 | that is intelligent, that isn't accounted for. | 这是聪明的,这是没有说明的。 |
| 861 | And the best estimates are it would take 50 years of Moore's law before we can | 最好的估计是 摩尔的律法需要50年 |
| 862 | simulate what's going on inside a cell near perfectly and probably a hundred | 模拟细胞里发生的事情 接近完美,大概有一百个 |
| 863 | years before we can build a brain that can simulate inside the cells. | 数年之后,我们才能在细胞内建立能够模拟的大脑。 |
| 864 | So putting it at saying that I'm just going to model neuron is on or off and | 所以,把它放在说,我只是要去 模型神经元是打开或关闭, |
| 865 | then use that to build a human brain is overly simplistic. | 然后用它来构建人的大脑 过于简单化。 |
| 866 | Furthermore, | 还有, |
| 867 | I would posit there's no such thing as general intelligence. | 我假设没有一般情报 |
| 868 | Every intelligence is contextual within the context of the environment that it's | 每一种情报都是环境背景 |
| 869 | in. | 进去 |
| 870 | So you have to evolve an environment around it. | 所以,你必须进化 周围的环境。 |
| 871 | So I think a lot of people who are peddling general AI, | 所以我觉得很多人 都在出卖AI将军 |
| 872 | the burden of proof is on them. | 举证责任在他们身上。 |
| 873 | I haven't seen anything that would lead me to indicate we're approaching general | 我没有看到任何能让我 表示我们接近将军的东西 |
| 874 | AI. | 大赦国际。 |
| 875 | Instead, | 相反, |
| 876 | we're solving deterministic closed set finite problems using large amounts of | 我们正在用大量的 |
| 877 | data, but it's not sexy to talk about that. | 数据,但谈论这一点并不性感。 |
| 878 | If you you're talking about mirroring the actual abilities of cells, | 如果你是在说镜像细胞的实际能力 |
| 879 | or are you talking about recreating the actual mechanism? | 还是说要重新创造真正的机制? |
| 880 | Like what, what, what is going on inside cells and, | 比如什么,什么, 发生了什么事在细胞和, |
| 881 | and biological organisms? | 还有生物体? |
| 882 | Yeah, we just don't know how intelligence works. | 是的,我们只是不知道 智能是如何工作的。 |
| 883 | Right. | 对 |
| 884 | We don't know. | 我们不知道。 |
| 885 | So most of the AI approaches basically say, | 所以大多数人工智能的方法 基本上说, |
| 886 | we're going to try and model how the brain works, | 我们要尝试模拟大脑如何运作 |
| 887 | but then model at the neuron level, which is saying this neurons on that neurons | 但后来在神经元层面上的模型, 就是说神经元在神经元上 |
| 888 | off. | 关闭。 |
| 889 | They're combining their signal, but I'm saying the neuron is a cell inside | 他们结合了他们的信号, 但我说神经元是细胞内部。 |
| 890 | the cell. | 细胞。 |
| 891 | There's all this machinery going on that's operating the neuron. | 这些机器都在运行神经元 |
| 892 | That is also part of the intelligence apparatus. | 这也是情报机构的一部分。 |
| 893 | You can't just ignore that and abstract that out. | 你不能忽视它 并抽象出来。 |
| 894 | You have to model it down to the inside the cell level. | 你必须把它模拟到细胞内部 |
| 895 | It's also a part of the biological organism itself. | 它也是生物体本身的一部分. |
| 896 | And it has all these needs that, you know, | 它有所有这些需要,你知道, |
| 897 | the biological organism has to have food and rest and there's a balance going on. | 生物机体必须有食物和休息 并保持平衡 |
| 898 | But when you eliminate all that, when there is none of that, | 但当你消除这一切, 当没有这些, |
| 899 | and it's just calculations and we get to a point where it's just | 这只是计算 我们得到一个点 它只是 |
| 900 | this thing that we've created, whether you call it a computer, | 这件事情,我们已经创造了, 不管你称之为计算机, |
| 901 | whether it doesn't have to be a moving thing even, | 不管它是不是一个感人的事情甚至, |
| 902 | but a thing that you've created that stores virtually all the information that's | 但你创造的东西 存储几乎所有的信息 |
| 903 | available in the world, | 在世界上, |
| 904 | stores all of the patterns of all the thinking of all the great | 存储所有模式 所有伟大的思想 |
| 905 | people that have ever lived, all the writers, | 那些曾经活着的人, 所有作家, |
| 906 | all the people that have ever published anything, | 所有曾经发表过任何作品的人, |
| 907 | all the people that have ever spoken any words, stores all of their points, | 所有曾经说过任何话的人, 存储他们的所有观点, |
| 908 | all of their counterpoints, all their contradictions, | 他们所有的对立点, 所有的矛盾, |
| 909 | applies logic and reason and some | 应用逻辑和理性以及一些 |
| 910 | sort of sense of the future and starts improving | 一种未来的感觉,开始改善 |
| 911 | upon these patterns and then starts acting on its own, | 根据这些模式,然后开始独立行动, |
| 912 | based on the information that it's been provided with. | 根据它得到的信息。 |
| 913 | Well, first you would have to actually simulate a structure of the human brain | 首先你必须模拟人类大脑的结构 |
| 914 | that can hold all that information. | 它可以保存所有的信息。 |
| 915 | You're basically talking about tens of thousands of brains worth of information. | 你基本上在谈论 数以万计的大脑价值的信息。 |
| 916 | We can't even build one brain the next decade or two or three. | 我们甚至不能在接下来的十年或二三建立一个大脑. |
| 917 | Well, in terms of an actual physical brain, yes. | 就实际的大脑而言 是的 |
| 918 | But what about something that recreates the abilities of a brain? | 但是重现大脑能力的东西呢? |
| 919 | Like I said, nature is parsimonious. | 正如我所说,大自然是可鄙的。 |
| 920 | So we've got this three pound wetware object that can hold all this data. | 因此,我们得到了这个三磅湿器件 能够保存所有的数据。 |
| 921 | Nature has been very efficient in evolving kind of how we get there. | 大自然在不断演变的方式上非常有效。 |
| 922 | I just don't think computers are anywhere close to that, | 我只是不认为计算机 任何接近这一点, |
| 923 | like they can hold that amount of data with that complexity, | 就像他们能拥有如此复杂的数据 |
| 924 | with like the holographic structure of the brain where it can recall in many, | 和大脑的全息结构一样 在很多人的记忆中 |
| 925 | many different ways. | 许多不同的方式。 |
| 926 | And then I don't think you can evolve a creature | 然后我觉得你无法进化出生物 |
| 927 | to be intelligent outside of the boundaries of feedback in a real medium. | 在真实的介质中,在反馈的界限之外具有智慧。 |
| 928 | Like if you evolved, if you raised a human being a concrete cell | 就像你进化,如果你把人养成混凝土细胞 |
| 929 | with no input from the outside, they wouldn't have any feedback from the real world. | 没有外界的任何投入,他们就不会有任何来自现实世界的反馈. |
| 930 | They wouldn't evolve properly. | 他们进化不成熟。 |
| 931 | So I think just dumping information into into a thing isn't enough. | 所以,我认为仅仅把信息倒入事物是不够的。 |
| 932 | It has to have an environment to operate in to get feedback from. | 它必须有一个环境 运行从获得反馈。 |
| 933 | It needs to have context. | 它需要有背景。 |
| 934 | But isn't that biological? | 但这不是生物学的吗? |
| 935 | I mean, if you if you have just the all the information that people have accumulated | 我是说 如果你掌握了人们积累的所有信息 |
| 936 | and the lessons that people have learned and you program that into the computer, | 和人们学到的教训, 你编程到计算机, |
| 937 | like if if we can take a computer that can beat someone at chess, | 就像如果我们能用电脑 打败棋手 |
| 938 | the real question was, well, can we make some sort of an artificial intelligence | 真正的问题是,我们可以 做某种人工智能 |
| 939 | that could beat someone to go, which is far more complex to chess? | 那能打败一个人去, 还有什么比下棋复杂得多? |
| 940 | They figured out how to do that, too. | 他们也想出了怎么做 |
| 941 | And that was a giant shock. | 这是巨大的冲击。 |
| 942 | Right. | 对 |
| 943 | These are still manmade, very closed bounded games. | 这些仍然是人造的,非常封闭的界限游戏. |
| 944 | They're they're not they're not on the road to the unbounded game of life. | 他们不是在通往生命无界游戏的路上 |
| 945 | They are completely artificial. | 它们完全是人为的。 |
| 946 | But this didn't go. | 但这事没发生 |
| 947 | Didn't that give you like a little bit of a pause? | 刚才不是让你暂停一下吗? |
| 948 | A little bit. | 一点点 |
| 949 | Go is not go or League of Legends or Fortnite. | 去不是去 传奇联盟或堡垒。 |
| 950 | They're not completely deterministic. | 它们并不完全具有决定力。 |
| 951 | Right. | 对 |
| 952 | But they're still very artificial, very bounded games. | 但它们仍然是非常人工的,非常有界限的游戏. |
| 953 | Being good at go doesn't mean that you can then suddenly figure out | 干得漂亮不意味着你突然想通了 |
| 954 | how to write great poetry. | 如何写大诗. |
| 955 | Right. | 对 |
| 956 | The creativity, for sure, is something that's creativity is the last frontier. | 当然,创造力是创造力是最后的前沿。 |
| 957 | So I do believe that automation over a long enough period of time | 所以我相信自动化 足够长的时间 |
| 958 | will replace every non creative job or every non creative work. | 将取代每一个非创造性的工作 或每一个非创造性的工作。 |
| 959 | But that's great news. | 但这是好消息。 |
| 960 | That means that all of our basic needs are taken care of. | 这意味着我们的所有基本需求都得到了解决。 |
| 961 | And what remains for us is to be creative, which is really what every human wants. | 我们剩下的是创造力, 这才是每个人想要的。 |
| 962 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 963 | When what are you doing right now? | 你现在在做什么? |
| 964 | This is a creative job. | 这是一个创造性的工作。 |
| 965 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 966 | That brings us back to the idea of meaning and universal basic income. | 这使我们回到意义和普遍基本收入的概念。 |
| 967 | I think the idea of giving someone | 我觉得应该给一个人 |
| 968 | fifteen thousand dollars a year doesn't necessarily | 每年一万五千块不一定 |
| 969 | cause whatever what everyone would worry about is people being on the dole. | 不管大家担心的是什么 人们在救济金上。 |
| 970 | You would have a bunch of listless people out there with no meaning in life. | 你会有一堆无名无姓的人 在那里没有生命的意义。 |
| 971 | But the idea is that fifteen thousand dollars a year. | 但这个想法是每年15,000美元。 |
| 972 | And I'm not necessarily sure I agree with this. | 我不一定同意这一点。 |
| 973 | I'm not even endorsing this. | 我甚至不赞同这一点。 |
| 974 | But that fifteen thousand dollars a year would just provide you | 但每年一万五千块只给你 |
| 975 | with the necessities to get by in life. | 与生活必需品。 |
| 976 | It would give you food. | 它会给你食物。 |
| 977 | It would give you shelter. | 它会给你庇护。 |
| 978 | Well, it's not going to stop at 15 because the moment people are like, | 好吧,它不会停止在15, 因为那一刻人们喜欢, |
| 979 | I mean, 15, like that, people would demand more. | 我的意思是,15,像这样, 人们会要求更多。 |
| 980 | Bernie Sanders would be on the 16, 17, 18, 19, these companies are too big. | 伯尼·桑德斯在16、17、18、19号班上 这些公司太大了 |
| 981 | Yeah, that could. | 是的,这可以。 |
| 982 | It doesn't. | 它没有。 |
| 983 | It doesn't stop. | 终不息. |
| 984 | It just it just goes all the way to bankruptcy. | 它只是去 一路破产。 |
| 985 | The concern is the slide to socialism. | 关心的是滑向社会主义. |
| 986 | It's obvious. | 显如来. |
| 987 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 988 | I mean, heck, if I was on, if I was not working and I was getting my 15 a year, | 我的意思是,地狱,如果我在, 如果我不工作, 我得到我的15年一年, |
| 989 | I would happily vote for the guy who would give me 20 or 25. | 我很乐意投给我20或25块的票 |
| 990 | It's just common sense. | 这只是常识。 |
| 991 | What do you say to the people that don't believe that there is such a thing | 你对不相信有这种事的人说什么? |
| 992 | of ethical as ethical or compassionate capitalism? | 道德作为道德或同情的资本主义? |
| 993 | And there's many people today that are espousing Marxism and they're espousing | 今天有很多人支持马克思主义,他们支持 |
| 994 | some sort of a socialist society where they believe that capitalism | 某种社会主义社会 他们相信资本主义 |
| 995 | has screwed people over and eliminated the middle class. | 把人搞砸,消灭了中产阶级 |
| 996 | And there are absolute problems with capitalism. | 资本主义也有绝对的问题。 |
| 997 | I think monopolies are a problem. | 我认为垄断是一个问题。 |
| 998 | I think that crony capitalism is a problem with the government, | 我认为裙带资本主义是政府的问题 |
| 999 | you know, kind of gets in bed with them and sort of forces things. | 你知道,有点在床上 与他们和一些 强迫的东西。 |
| 1000 | I think the bankers have really, you know, raped society | 我认为银行家们真的,你知道, 强奸社会 |
| 1001 | and the rest of us are suffering. | 而我们其他人正在受苦。 |
| 1002 | Literally. | 当然 |
| 1003 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1004 | They've essentially taken huge risks where they privatize the gains | 他们基本上冒了巨大的风险 他们把收益私有化 |
| 1005 | and they socialize the losses. | 他们将损失社会化 |
| 1006 | So when it fails, they basically get bailed out and bankrupt everybody else. | 所以,当它失败了, 他们基本上得到保释 和破产其他人。 |
| 1007 | So capitalism has gotten a really bad name. | 所以资本主义已经得到了一个非常坏的名字。 |
| 1008 | Let's talk about as free exchange, free markets, | 让我们谈谈自由交换,自由市场, |
| 1009 | free markets and free exchange are intrinsic to humans. | 自由市场和自由交流是人类的固有。 |
| 1010 | From when the first person started a fire and somebody came along with a deer | 从第一个人起火,有人带着一只鹿 |
| 1011 | and said, hey, if I cook my deer on your fire, I'll share some of it with you. | 并说,嘿,如果我做我的鹿 在你的火,我会分享一些它与你。 |
| 1012 | Right. | 对 |
| 1013 | So specialization, labor, we trade. | 所以专业化,劳动,我们交易。 |
| 1014 | That's built into the human species. | 这是人类所固有的 |
| 1015 | Basic math comes from accounting, keeping track of debts and credits and so on. | 基础数学来源于会计,跟踪债务和信用等等. |
| 1016 | We need to be able to engage in free trade. | 我们需要能够参与自由贸易。 |
| 1017 | The correct criticism of capitalism is when it does not provide equal opportunity. | 对资本主义的正确批评是在它没有提供平等机会的时候. |
| 1018 | And so we should always strive to provide equal opportunity. | 因此,我们应始终努力提供平等机会。 |
| 1019 | But people confuse that with equal outcome. | 但人们将这一点与平等的结果混淆起来。 |
| 1020 | When you have equal outcome, that can only be enforced through violence | 当你有同样的结果, 这只能通过暴力来强制执行 |
| 1021 | because different people, free people make different choices. | 因为不同的人,自由的人 做不同的选择。 |
| 1022 | And when they make different choices, they have different outcomes. | 而当他们做出不同的选择时,他们会产生不同的结果. |
| 1023 | And if you don't let them suffer the consequences of bad choices | 如果你不让他们承受错误选择的后果 |
| 1024 | or reap the rewards from good choices, then you are forcibly redistributing | 或者从优厚的选择中获得报酬,然后,你们强制地再分配, |
| 1025 | through violence. | 通过暴力。 |
| 1026 | It's interesting that there isn't there are no socialist | 有趣的是没有社会主义者 |
| 1027 | working socialist examples that exist without violence. | 以无暴力的社会主义为榜样。 |
| 1028 | You basically need someone to show up with a gun and say, OK, | 你基本上需要有人带着枪出现,然后说,好吧, |
| 1029 | you're not allowed to do that. | 你不允许这样做。 |
| 1030 | You hand this over to that person. | 你把这个交给那个人。 |
| 1031 | So one of the reasons why I do this podcast is because I believe | 所以我做播客的原因之一 是因为我相信 |
| 1032 | everybody can be wealthy, everybody. | 每个人都可以富有,每个人都可以。 |
| 1033 | It's not a zero sum game. | 这不是零和游戏。 |
| 1034 | It is a positive sum game. | 这是一个正和游戏。 |
| 1035 | You create something brand new. | 你创造了全新的东西。 |
| 1036 | You exchange it with me for something brand new. | 你用它和我交换新的东西。 |
| 1037 | I've created there's higher utility for both of us. | 我为我们俩创造了更高的用途 |
| 1038 | The sum of the value created is positive. | 创造值的总和为正数. |
| 1039 | It's not like status where it's like you're higher up. | 它不像状态 在那里,它看起来像你更高。 |
| 1040 | I'm lower down. | 我下来了。 |
| 1041 | You're president. | 你是总统。 |
| 1042 | So I must be vice president. | 所以我必须是副总统。 |
| 1043 | You're a plus one. | 你是一个加之一。 |
| 1044 | I'm a minus one. | 我是一个负一。 |
| 1045 | It has to cancel a zero. | 它必须取消一个零。 |
| 1046 | We should be all for playing positive, some ethical games. | 我们都应该玩积极的, 一些道德的游戏。 |
| 1047 | The problem is because of these looters who have ruined | 问题在于这些抢劫者毁了 |
| 1048 | capitalism's name, that then you get socialists coming in and saying, | 资本主义的名字, 然后你得到社会主义者进来说, |
| 1049 | burn the whole system down. | 把整个系统都烧了 |
| 1050 | Right. | 对 |
| 1051 | You burn the whole system down. | 你把整个系统都烧了 |
| 1052 | We end up like Venezuela or the former Soviet Union. | 我们最终会像委内瑞拉或前苏联一样。 |
| 1053 | You know, you don't want to be a failed socialist states with emaciated | 你知道,你不想成为一个失败的 社会主义国家 与疲惫 |
| 1054 | teens hunting cats in the streets to eat. | 少年在街上猎猫吃东西 |
| 1055 | Right. | 对 |
| 1056 | That's literally what happens in some of these places. | 这正是这些地方发生的事情。 |
| 1057 | So I think it's very important not to destroy the engine of progress | 所以我认为不要破坏进步的引擎是非常重要的 |
| 1058 | that brought us here. | 把我们带到这里。 |
| 1059 | Yeah, the idea that socialism just hasn't worked yet, | 社会主义还没有成功的想法 |
| 1060 | that it needs to the we just need to do it right. | 需要我们做正确的事 |
| 1061 | If we do it right, we can. | 如果我们做对了,我们可以。 |
| 1062 | If you ever had a hundred million dead and. | 如果你死了一亿... |
| 1063 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1064 | Well, let's keep trying. | 好吧,让我们继续尝试。 |
| 1065 | All over the world. | 遍满一切世界. |
| 1066 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1067 | And every single time it's been implemented. | 并且每次都被执行. |
| 1068 | Have you ever had a conversation with someone who's a socialist? | 你和社会主义者谈过吗? |
| 1069 | Many times. | 无数遍. |
| 1070 | Some of my better better friends are socialists. | 我的一些更好的朋友是社会主义者. |
| 1071 | Really? | 真的吗? |
| 1072 | We really get into it. | 我们真的进入其中。 |
| 1073 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1074 | And what is there? | 还有什么? |
| 1075 | I mean, does anyone have a compelling perspective at all? | 我的意思是,有没有人 有令人信服的观点呢? |
| 1076 | I think really socialism comes from the heart. | 我认为,真正的社会主义来自心脏。 |
| 1077 | Right. | 对 |
| 1078 | You all we all want to be socialist. | 我们都想成为社会主义者 |
| 1079 | Capitalism comes from the head | 资本主义来自头部 |
| 1080 | because they're always cheaters in any system. | 因为他们在任何系统中都是骗子 |
| 1081 | Yes. | 对 |
| 1082 | And there's incentives in any system. | 任何系统都有激励机制 |
| 1083 | So when you're young, if you're if you're not a socialist, | 所以当你年轻的时候,如果你不是社会主义者, |
| 1084 | you have no heart when you're older. | 你年纪大了就没心了 |
| 1085 | If you're not a capitalist, you have no head. | 若非资本家则无头. |
| 1086 | Right. | 对 |
| 1087 | You haven't thought it through. | 你没想清楚 |
| 1088 | So I understand where it comes from. | 所以我知道它从哪里来的。 |
| 1089 | I always like Nassim Taleb's framing on this, where he said, | 我一直喜欢纳西姆·塔莱布的陷害 他说 |
| 1090 | with my family, I'm a communist with my close friends. | 和我的家人在一起,我是一个共产主义者 和我亲密的朋友。 |
| 1091 | I'm a socialist. | 我是个社会主义者。 |
| 1092 | You know, at my state level politics, I'm a Democrat. | 你知道,在我的州一级政治,我是民主党人。 |
| 1093 | At higher levels, I'm a Republican. | 在高层,我是共和党人 |
| 1094 | And at the federal level, I'm a libertarian. | 在联邦一级,我是自由主义者 |
| 1095 | Right. | 对 |
| 1096 | So basically, the larger the group of people you have massed together | 所以基本上,你聚集在一起的人越多 |
| 1097 | who have different interests, the less trust there is, | 他们有不同的利益, 信任越少, |
| 1098 | the more cheating there is, the better the incentives have to be aligned, | 越多的欺骗, 奖励越好 必须调整, |
| 1099 | the better the system has to work. | 系统越好运行。 |
| 1100 | The more you go towards capitalism, the smaller the group you're in. | 你走向资本主义的程度越高,你所在的群体就越小. |
| 1101 | You're in a kibbutz. | 尔时金刚手. |
| 1102 | You're in your commune. | 你在你的社区。 |
| 1103 | You're in your house. | 尔时优婆塞. |
| 1104 | You're in your tribe. | 汝等诸部落. |
| 1105 | By all means, be a socialist with my aunts, with my brother, | 和我的姨妈们做个社会主义者 和我哥哥一起 |
| 1106 | with my cousins, with my uncles, with my mom, with my family. | 和我的表弟们,和我的叔叔们,和我妈妈,和我的家人。 |
| 1107 | I'm a socialist. | 我是个社会主义者。 |
| 1108 | That's the right way to live a loving, happy, integrated life. | 这才是过着爱,快乐,综合生活的正确方式. |
| 1109 | But when you're dealing with strangers, I mean, you want to be a real socialist? | 但是,当你面对陌生人, 我的意思是,你想成为一个真正的社会主义者? |
| 1110 | Great. | 不错 |
| 1111 | Open all your doors and windows tomorrow. | 明天把门窗都打开 |
| 1112 | Please, everybody, come take what you want. | 请大家来拿你想要的。 |
| 1113 | See how that works out. | 看情况如何 |
| 1114 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1115 | This idea of income inequality, that always strikes me as a very, | 这种收入不平等的想法, 总是让我觉得非常, |
| 1116 | it's a deceptive term, income inequality. | 这是一个欺骗性术语,收入不平等。 |
| 1117 | Well, let's flip it around. | 好吧,让我们翻过来。 |
| 1118 | It comes from outcome inequality. | 它来自结果的不平等。 |
| 1119 | And the outcome inequality is there because you made different choices. | 结果是不平等,因为你做了不同的选择。 |
| 1120 | Now, again, going back, if it was because you didn't have the same opportunities, | 现在,再次,回去,如果这是 因为你没有同样的机会, |
| 1121 | that's a problem. | 那是个问题。 |
| 1122 | So society should always try to give people equal opportunities. | 因此,社会应始终努力为人们提供平等机会。 |
| 1123 | So for example, instead of basic income, what if we had a retraining program built into | 所以,比如说,不是基本收入, 如果我们有一个再培训计划 包含在 |
| 1124 | our basic social fabric, which said that every four years or every six years, | 我们的基本社会结构, 说每四年或每六年, |
| 1125 | or whatever it is, maybe it's every 10, you can take one year out | 不管是什么,也许每10个,你可以花一年出去 |
| 1126 | and we'll pay for you to go retrain completely. | 我们会付钱让你去重新训练 |
| 1127 | And you can go into any profession you like that has some earning power and output, | 你可以进入任何你喜欢的职业 有一些赚钱的力量和产出, |
| 1128 | hopefully a creative long-term profession, and you can re-educate yourself. | 希望是一个有创造力的长期职业, 你可以重新教育自己。 |
| 1129 | That would be much better for society on all levels than basically just saying, | 这对于社会各个层次来说都好得多, |
| 1130 | now you're going to be the dole for the rest of your life. | 现在你要一辈子做救济金了 |
| 1131 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1132 | You just, you'd have to lead that horse to water and then make them drink. | 你只要把马引向水 然后让他们喝酒 |
| 1133 | It requires people to put in some effort, right? | 它需要人们付出一些努力,对不对? |
| 1134 | You know, we can't all just sit around. | 你知道,我们不能都坐在这里。 |
| 1135 | It's just not. | 只是没有。 |
| 1136 | Well, that's my perspective on income inequality. | 这就是我对收入不平等的看法。 |
| 1137 | There's always effort inequality and thought inequality. | 努力的不平等和思想的不平等总是存在的. |
| 1138 | I mean, there's just some people that are obsessed. | 我的意思是,只有一些人 迷恋。 |
| 1139 | And if those people become successful, it doesn't mean they stole from you. | 如果那些人成功了 那并不意味着他们偷了你的东西 |
| 1140 | It just means that they put in the amount of energy | 只是表示他们投入了能量 |
| 1141 | and effort that's required to reach where they're at. | 并需要努力去达到他们的位置。 |
| 1142 | And there's a lot of virtue signaling that goes on now where people say, | 现在有很多美德信号,人们说, |
| 1143 | well, it's because you're privileged. | 因为你有特权 |
| 1144 | It's like, well, you know what the greatest privilege is? | 你知道什么是最大的特权吗? |
| 1145 | You're alive. | 你还活着 |
| 1146 | 85% of humanity is dead. | 人类85%的人死了。 |
| 1147 | So how privileged are you? | 那么,你有多特权? |
| 1148 | Then you're living in the first world and you're, you know, you have four limbs, etc. | 然则居于初世,有四肢之类. |
| 1149 | So you can take that argument all the way. | 这样你就可以一直坚持下去 |
| 1150 | It's kind of a nonsense discussion. | 这是一种无稽之谈。 |
| 1151 | Well, it's a very weird progressive argument. | 嗯,这是一个非常奇怪的进步论。 |
| 1152 | And as it pertains to race is always a weird one, right? | 和种族有关 总是一个奇怪的,对不对? |
| 1153 | Because white privilege to me, although you could look at what they're saying on paper, | 因为白人给我的特权 虽然你可以看看他们在纸上说的话 |
| 1154 | like, yes, yeah, I'm sure there's more black people that are harassed by the police. | 像,是的,是的, 我相信有更多的黑人 受到警察的骚扰。 |
| 1155 | I'm sure there is more black people who are treated suspiciously by shop owners and the like. | 我敢肯定,有更多的黑人受到店主的可疑对待等等. |
| 1156 | But the problem isn't the people who aren't treated poorly. | 但问题不在于没有受到不良待遇的人. |
| 1157 | The problem is the people who treat the people poorly. | 问题在于那些对待人民不好的人. |
| 1158 | The problem is racism. | 问题在于种族主义。 |
| 1159 | The problem is not people that didn't ask to be born white or whatever they are, | 问题不在于人们没有要求 生来是白人或他们是什么人 |
| 1160 | and they don't get harassed. | 他们不会受到骚扰。 |
| 1161 | So this idea of white privilege or male privilege or whatever it is, that's not the problem. | 因此,这个关于白人特权或男性特权的观念,或者它是什么,这不是问题所在. |
| 1162 | You're just looking at someone who's not a victim of this particular problem | 你只是看着一个人 谁不是这个特殊问题的受害者 |
| 1163 | that you're highlighting, but you're not looking at the perpetrators of the problem. | 但你没在看问题凶手 |
| 1164 | You're making people perpetrators by simply existing and having less melanin in their skin | 你只是把人当作罪犯而已 并且皮肤里含有更少的黑色素 |
| 1165 | or having their ancestors come from a geographic location. | 或者他们的祖先来自一个地理位置。 |
| 1166 | It's a sneaky way of being racist. | 这是一种狡猾的种族主义方式. |
| 1167 | Yeah, and then they say you can't be racist. | 是啊,然后他们说 你不能种族主义。 |
| 1168 | It's not racist because you're white. | 这不是种族主义 因为你是白人。 |
| 1169 | It's hilarious if you can't be racist against white people. | 如果你不能种族主义白人,那就太好笑了 |
| 1170 | That's a variation of the whole still while I hate you argument. | 虽然我讨厌你争吵,但还是这样 |
| 1171 | Stop struggling while I'm hitting you. | 在我打你的时候别挣扎了 |
| 1172 | But it's just so silly. | 但是这太傻了 |
| 1173 | You've just completely changed what racism means. | 你刚刚彻底改变了种族主义的含义 |
| 1174 | What's hilarious is that mostly the people who are yelling racist are not the minorities. | 有趣的是,那些大喊种族主义的人不是少数。 |
| 1175 | When I look on my Twitter or my social media or on my news, it's white on white violence. | 当我在Twitter、社交媒体或新闻上看时, |
| 1176 | Virtue signaling. | 道德信号. |
| 1177 | Yeah, it's white on white violence. | 对 白色暴力是白色的 |
| 1178 | What's mostly going on is it's elitist whites, blue state whites, college educated whites, | 主要是精英白人 蓝州白人 受过大学教育的白人 |
| 1179 | beating up on high school educated whites, blue collar. | 殴打受过高中教育的白人 蓝领 |
| 1180 | It's a white collar versus blue collar war that's going on, | 一场白领对蓝领的战争正在发生 |
| 1181 | and the rest of us are just kind of watching like, oh, that's kind of interesting. | 而我们其他人只是那种 看着像,哦,这有点有趣。 |
| 1182 | Well, it's also a side effect of the ability to broadcast, right? | 这也是广播能力的副作用 对吧? |
| 1183 | Everyone with a Twitter handle has the ability to broadcast. | 每个有Twitter手柄的人都有广播能力. |
| 1184 | Everyone with a Facebook page has the ability to pontificate and have these long rambling, | 每一个有脸书页面的人 都有能力做小事 长篇大论 |
| 1185 | these huge statements that people put out when you read them. | 这些巨大的声明,人们在阅读时发表的。 |
| 1186 | It's like, how much time did you put in this? | 你花了多少时间? |
| 1187 | Do you put that much time in your kids or your job or your life or your future or planning? | 你给孩子、工作、生活、未来、计划 花那么多时间? |
| 1188 | How much do you work out a day? | 你一天能工作多少时间? |
| 1189 | I read some people's Facebook posts. | 我读过一些人的Facebook文章。 |
| 1190 | I'm like, this is a preposterous amount of effort. | 这太荒谬了 |
| 1191 | That you put into saying virtually nothing. | 你几乎什么都没说 |
| 1192 | Let's say humans are being creative. | 假设人类正在创造 |
| 1193 | Let's say an AI do that. | 不如说人工智能会这么做 |
| 1194 | Well, that's true. | 没错 |
| 1195 | It is creative. | 这是创造性的。 |
| 1196 | It's creative in a very odd way, right? | 这是一种非常奇怪的方式,对不对? |
| 1197 | Because it's creative in that they're trying to elicit a response from people | 因为它是创造性的,因为 他们试图引来一个反应 从人们 |
| 1198 | and they're trying to raise their social value or raise their position on the social totem pole. | 他们试图提高他们的社会价值 或提高他们在社会图腾柱的地位。 |
| 1199 | It's signaling and it's easy signaling because it's the kind of thing that everybody has to | 它的信号 和它的容易的信号,因为 这是人们必须做的那种事情 |
| 1200 | agree with you on because nobody wants to be seen as a horrible person. | 同意你的观点 因为没人想被看成是可怕的人 |
| 1201 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1202 | And it's very hard to make the nuanced arguments against than it is to just kind of go along. | 很难提出细微的论据, 而不是只是顺其自然。 |
| 1203 | Right. | 对 |
| 1204 | Well, it's also it's some of it is so cliche that it seems like I know one guy | 也有些陈词滥调 好像我认识一个人 |
| 1205 | who poses as a woman on Twitter, but he does it. | 他在推特上假扮女人 但他却这么做了 |
| 1206 | Just one. | 只有一个 |
| 1207 | Obviously. | 很明显 |
| 1208 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1209 | What is this? | 这是什么? |
| 1210 | The name Tatiana. | 塔蒂安娜这个名字 |
| 1211 | McGrath. | 麦格拉斯 |
| 1212 | Yes. | 对 |
| 1213 | Hilarious. | 可笑的,你觉得呢? |
| 1214 | Used to be Godfrey Elwick. | 曾经是戈弗雷·埃尔维克. |
| 1215 | Yes. | 对 |
| 1216 | Oh, is that the same guy? | 哦,是同一个人吗? |
| 1217 | I think so. | 我想是这样。 |
| 1218 | That's hilarious. | 这太好笑了 |
| 1219 | I did not. | 我没有 |
| 1220 | They killed his account. | 他们杀了他的账户。 |
| 1221 | I think it's the same one. | 我觉得是同一个 |
| 1222 | I'm not 100% sure. | 我不是百分之百的肯定。 |
| 1223 | For pretending to be transracial. | 假装是跨种族的 |
| 1224 | That's right. | 没错 |
| 1225 | They didn't. | 他们没有。 |
| 1226 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1227 | He basically says all the crazy stuff that people on the left say, | 他基本上说所有疯狂的东西 在左边的人说, |
| 1228 | but he says the craziest version and kind of just shows how it's okay. | 但他说,最疯狂的版本 和那种只是显示如何没关系。 |
| 1229 | It's like I saw a tweet from recently just said or her that it's not okay to be white. | 就像我最近看到一条微博 说或她说, 做白脸是不行的。 |
| 1230 | Yes. | 对 |
| 1231 | And then some people agree, but it's so close to what they say. | 后有人同意,但与所言相近. |
| 1232 | It's so close that it's like the most artful form of subtle parody. | 它是如此的接近,就像最有艺术性的形式 微妙的讽刺。 |
| 1233 | Because if you replace in half of these things, | 因为如果你换掉一半的东西 |
| 1234 | if you replace the word white with black or Asian, | 如果你用黑人或亚洲人来代替白人 |
| 1235 | watch the lynch mob descend on you. | 看那群暴徒来袭 |
| 1236 | It's a strange time in that respect. | 此时此地奇异. |
| 1237 | If you want to see who rules over you, see who you're not allowed to criticize. | 想看谁统治你,看谁不准批评. |
| 1238 | Excellent. | 不错 |
| 1239 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1240 | That's so true, right? | 这是真的,对不对? |
| 1241 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1242 | That's so true. | 没错 |
| 1243 | I wonder where this is going. | 我想知道这是怎么回事。 |
| 1244 | I really do. | 我真的喜欢 |
| 1245 | It seems like this newfound ability to broadcast that we have with, | 看来我们有这种新的广播能力 |
| 1246 | whether you have a YouTube page or whether you have Twitter or whatever you're doing, | 无论你是否有YouTube的网页 或者你是否有Twitter 或者你在做什么, |
| 1247 | this newfound ability to spread whatever you're trying to say | 这种新发现的能力 传播任何你想说的 |
| 1248 | to so many people with very little understanding on the most part from what it's doing. | 如此之多的人 却对它的所作所为 知之甚少 |
| 1249 | I think it's actually a great thing overall. | 我认为这其实是一个伟大的整体。 |
| 1250 | Yeah, I do as well. | 我也一样 |
| 1251 | Because now it means that any human can broadcast to any other human on the planet at any time. | 因为现在这意味着任何人类都可以随时向地球上的任何其他人类广播. |
| 1252 | For example, if a totalitarian dictator were to come to power and someone was beating up, | 例如,如果一个极权独裁者上台,有人在殴打他, |
| 1253 | had fascists beating up on old women, that would get broadcast out instantly. | 让法西斯分子殴打老女人, 这会立即被广播出来。 |
| 1254 | There would be an instant outrage, hue and cry rallying. | 会有立即的愤怒, 呼喊和哭泣的集会。 |
| 1255 | In that sense, it helps bring attention to the plight of anybody. | 从这个意义上讲,它有助于使人们注意到任何人的困境。 |
| 1256 | Right now, we're going through the phase where we have this newfound power to assemble mobs | 现在,我们正在经历一个阶段, 我们有了这个新发现的权力 集合暴徒 |
| 1257 | and people don't know how to deal with that. | 而人们不知道如何应对。 |
| 1258 | It becomes very easy to set up a mob and have it attack somebody, | 组织暴徒攻击他人 变得很容易 |
| 1259 | take all the context out. | 把所有的背景都拿出来。 |
| 1260 | Even this conversation, I'm sure people will take out snippets, | 即使这次谈话,我敢肯定,人们会拿出片段, |
| 1261 | put them on social media and try and get somebody outraged. | 让他们在社交媒体上 引起别人的愤怒 |
| 1262 | And so you have to learn how, first of all, society just has to get over this idea of outrage. | 所以你必须学会,首先, 社会必须克服这种愤怒的想法。 |
| 1263 | To me, people who get easily outraged are the stupidest people on social media. | 对我而言,容易感到愤怒的人是社交媒体上最愚蠢的人。 |
| 1264 | Those are the people I block instantly. | 这些人是我立刻封锁的 |
| 1265 | It's just very low-level thinking. | 这只是非常低的思维。 |
| 1266 | These are the foot soldiers in the mob. | 这些是暴徒中的脚兵. |
| 1267 | Eventually, society just has to get over it. | 最后,社会必须克服它。 |
| 1268 | They have to understand that these are all snippets being taken out of context. | 他们必须明白,这些都是断章取义的片断。 |
| 1269 | These are doctored video clips. | 这些是被修复的视频片段。 |
| 1270 | These are just someone who's trying to get outraged over something. | 这些人就是想为某些事情而生气 |
| 1271 | Eventually, there'll also be anti-mob tactics. | 最终,也会有反黑手党的战术. |
| 1272 | Like, for example, if I go to someone's Twitter feed | 例如,如果我去某人的推特广播 |
| 1273 | and all it is is full of political ranting, raving, conspiracy theories, | 它充满了政治狂妄 狂妄 阴谋论 |
| 1274 | do I want to work with this person? | 我想和这个人一起工作吗? |
| 1275 | Do I want to associate with this person? | 我想和这个人合作吗? |
| 1276 | Do I want to be friends with this person? | 我想和这个人做朋友吗? |
| 1277 | Their mind is just cluttered with junk. | 他们脑子里全是垃圾 |
| 1278 | Now, I don't necessarily blame them. | 现在,我不一定怪他们。 |
| 1279 | I think that the human brain is not designed to absorb | 我认为人类大脑不是用来吸收的 |
| 1280 | all of the world's breaking news, 24-7 emergencies | 世界所有突发新闻,24-7紧急情况 |
| 1281 | injected straight into your skull with clickbait headline news. | 直接注射到你的头骨上 上面有点击器头条新闻 |
| 1282 | If you pay attention to that stuff, even if you're well-meaning, | 如果你注意那些东西, 即使你的意思很好, |
| 1283 | even if you're sound of mind and body, it will eventually drive you insane. | 即使你的声音 身心, 它最终会让你疯狂。 |
| 1284 | This goes back to Clockwork Orange where he has his eyes opened up | 这又回到钟表橙园 他睁开眼睛 |
| 1285 | and he's forced to watch the news. | 他被迫看新闻 |
| 1286 | But I think that's what's happening right now because these are addictive, right? | 但我认为,这是现在发生的事情 因为这些是上瘾,对不对? |
| 1287 | 推特、Facebook、Instagram, 这些都是武器化的。 | |
| 1288 | You have social statisticians and scientists and researchers | 你们有社会统计学家 科学家和研究人员 |
| 1289 | and people in lab coats literally, best minds of our generation, | 和在实验室大衣的人 字面上,最好的头脑 我们这一代, |
| 1290 | figuring out how to addict you to the news. | 想办法让你上瘾 |
| 1291 | And if you fall for it, if you get addicted, your brain will get destroyed. | 如果你爱上它,如果你上瘾,你的大脑就会被摧毁。 |
| 1292 | And I think this is the modern struggle, right? | 我认为这是现代的斗争,对不对? |
| 1293 | The modern struggle. | 现代斗争. |
| 1294 | So the ancient struggle used to be the tribal struggle. | 所以古代的斗争曾经是部落的斗争. |
| 1295 | You had your tribe of friends and family. | 你有你的朋友和家人 |
| 1296 | You had your religion. | 你有你的宗教信仰。 |
| 1297 | You had your country. | 你有你的国家。 |
| 1298 | You had your loyalty. | 你有你的忠诚。 |
| 1299 | You had your nationality. | 你有你的国籍。 |
| 1300 | At least you had meaning and support, but now you would struggle against other tribes. | 至少你有意义和支持 但你现在要对抗其他部落 |
| 1301 | Modern life, we're so free, everything's become atomized. | 现代生活,我们如此自由,一切变得原子化. |
| 1302 | We stand alone. | 我们独自一人。 |
| 1303 | You live in your apartment alone. | 你一个人住在公寓里 |
| 1304 | You live in your house alone. | 你一个人住 |
| 1305 | Your parents don't live nearby. | 你父母不住在附近 你父母住在附近吗 |
| 1306 | Your friends don't live nearby. | 你的朋友不住在这里 |
| 1307 | You don't have any tribal meaning. | 你没有任何部落意义。 |
| 1308 | You don't believe in religion anymore. | 你不再相信宗教了。 |
| 1309 | You don't believe in country anymore. | 你不再相信国家了 |
| 1310 | It's fine. | 没事 |
| 1311 | You got a lot of freedom. | 你有很多自由权 |
| 1312 | It's fantastic. | 这太棒了。 |
| 1313 | But now, when they come to attack you, you're alone and you can't resist. | 但是现在,当他们来攻击你的时候,你独自一人,无法抗拒. |
| 1314 | So how do they attack you? | 他们怎么攻击你? |
| 1315 | It's all well-meaning. | 皆为善根. |
| 1316 | I don't fault capitalism. | 我不怪资本主义 |
| 1317 | I love capitalism, but look at how it happens. | 我喜欢资本主义,但看看它是如何发生的。 |
| 1318 | Social media, they've massaged all the mechanisms to addict you like a skinner's pigeon or a rat | 社交媒体,他们按摩了所有的机理 让你上瘾,像剥鸽子或老鼠 |
| 1319 | who's just going to click, click, click, click, click, can't put the phone down. | 谁只是要点击,点击,点击,点击,不能把电话放下. |
| 1320 | Food, they've taken sugar and they've weaponized it. | 食物,他们拿走了糖,武器化了 |
| 1321 | They've put it into all these different forms and varieties that you can't resist eating. | 他们把它 在所有这些不同的形式和品种 你无法抗拒吃。 |
| 1322 | Drugs, right? | 毒品 对吧? |
| 1323 | They've taken pharmaceuticals and plants and they've synthesized them. | 他们服用了药物和植物,并且合成了它们. |
| 1324 | They've grown them in such a way that you get addicted. | 他们的成长方式 让你上瘾。 |
| 1325 | You can't put them down. | 你不能把它们放下。 |
| 1326 | Porn, right? | 色情,对不对? |
| 1327 | If you're a young male, you wander on the internet. | 如果你是年轻男性,你会在互联网上徘徊。 |
| 1328 | It'll like sap away your libido and you're not going out in real life society anymore | 它会喜欢苗条离开你的性欲 而你不再去 在现实生活中的社会 |
| 1329 | because you've got this incredibly stimulating stuff coming at you. | 因为你有 令人难以置信的刺激的东西 来向你。 |
| 1330 | Video games, another way to addict people. | 电子游戏,另一种方法 瘾君子。 |
| 1331 | So you have this, you have entire large factories of people that are working to | 所以,你有这个,你有 整个大工厂的人 工作 |
| 1332 | addict you to these things and you stand alone. | 让你沉迷于这些事情 而你独自一人 |
| 1333 | So the modern struggle as an individual is learning how to resist these things in the | 所以作为一个个体的现代斗争 就是学会如何抵抗这些东西 |
| 1334 | first place, drawing your own boundaries, and there's no one there to help you. | 首先,画你自己的界限, 没有人可以帮助你。 |
| 1335 | Oof, that's terrifying. | 哦,这太可怕了。 |
| 1336 | I mean, it is, it's a new road that needs to be navigated by young people that are, | 我的意思是,它是,这是一条新的道路 需要由年轻人导航, |
| 1337 | there's no map, there's no guidebook on how to handle this. | 没有地图,没有指南 如何处理这个。 |
| 1338 | Our generation is the transition generation. | 我们这一代是过渡的一代。 |
| 1339 | I think our kids will know how to handle it better because they'll grow up with it. | 我想我们的孩子会知道如何更好地处理它 因为他们会随着它长大 |
| 1340 | I hope, I hope. | 希望是这样 |
| 1341 | I hope too because you're seeing some ridiculous behavior from people today that's so common. | 我也希望,因为你看到一些可笑的行为 从今天的人,这是如此常见。 |
| 1342 | I mean, I don't know if you've been paying attention to this, but there was a guy who | 我的意思是,我不知道你有没有注意这个问题, 但有一个家伙谁 |
| 1343 | he made a video, it turns out it wasn't even him that made the video, at least that's not | 他拍了个视频 事实证明 制作视频的甚至不是他 至少不是 |
| 1344 | what he said, but it was a video where he sort of doctored Nancy Pelosi talking and | 他说什么,但这是一个视频 他有点医生南希佩洛西说话和 |
| 1345 | made it look like she was drunk. | 让它看起来像她喝醉了。 |
| 1346 | And then a bunch of people retweeted it and like, oh my God, look, she's drunk. | 然后,一群人重新转发了它 像,哦,我的上帝,你看,她喝醉了。 |
| 1347 | And so one of the online publications, some website, tracked him down and doxed him and | 所以网上的一个出版物, 一些网站,追踪到他 并给他注射 |
| 1348 | turned out he's just a day laborer who is an African-American Trump fan and thought | 结果发现他只是一天的劳工 是个非裔美国人特朗普的粉丝 |
| 1349 | it would be funny to do that. | 这样做会很有趣 |
| 1350 | And it turns out that he didn't even, at least according to him, he actually just put it | 结果发现他甚至没有,至少 根据他,他实际上只是把它 |
| 1351 | up on his Facebook page. | 在他的脸书页面。 |
| 1352 | What's even more disturbing is Facebook gave up his information to this website for what? | 更令人不安的是,Facebook为了什么放弃了他的信息? |
| 1353 | Because he made something funny that made people seem drunk. | 因为他做了一些有趣的事 让人看起来喝醉了。 |
| 1354 | There's a million of those about me. | 有很多关于我的 |
| 1355 | I mean, you could find them. | 我的意思是,你可以找到他们。 |
| 1356 | I think Facebook and Twitter and a bunch of these other social media platforms are committing | 我认为Facebook和Twitter 以及这些社交媒体平台正在承诺 |
| 1357 | slow motion suicide through these kinds of activities. | 通过这种活动慢动作自杀. |
| 1358 | That was a stunning one though, that they would give up this guy who's a laborer because | 不过,那真是令人惊叹的一次, 他们会放弃这个家伙 谁是一个劳工,因为 |
| 1359 | he made a parody video or he made someone look foolish with editing. | 他拍了一段低调的视频 或者他让别人在编辑时显得愚蠢 |
| 1360 | Well, you now have basically the media views it as their job to go after individuals they | 你现在基本上有媒体 认为这是他们的工作 去寻找个人,他们 |
| 1361 | don't like. | 不喜欢 |
| 1362 | Yeah, I use media with air quotes in that regard, because I don't think this is something | 是啊,我用媒体 与空气引言在这方面, 因为我不认为这是什么 |
| 1363 | that the New York Times would have done or anything responsible. | 纽约时报会对此负责 |
| 1364 | But the media is getting more and more desperate, right? | 但媒体越来越绝望了,对吧? |
| 1365 | What happened was before the internet, you could have two local newspapers in every town | 在互联网之前,每个城镇都可以有两家本地报纸 |
| 1366 | and you could have two local news stations, TV stations in every town. | 你可以有两家地方电视台 在每个城镇都有电视台 |
| 1367 | And then CNN came along and started commoditizing the news 24-7 broadcast. | 之后CNN出现,开始将新闻24-7播出商品化. |
| 1368 | And then the internet came along. | 然后互联网就出现了。 |
| 1369 | That was the final nail in the coffin. | 这是棺材的最后钉子。 |
| 1370 | Because what the internet did was it said, actually, if there's a fact that's news, you | 因为互联网上是说,事实上, 如果有一个事实是新闻,你 |
| 1371 | can distribute that immediately. | 可以马上分发 |
| 1372 | It can go on Twitter. | 可以在推特上进行. |
| 1373 | 可以在Facebook上进行. | |
| 1374 | It gets reprinted on Google News a thousand times. | 它在谷歌新闻上被重印了上千次. |
| 1375 | You know, you go on Google News, you're like, okay, what's the piece of news? | 你知道,你上Google新闻, 你就像,好吧,什么是新闻? |
| 1376 | Which source? | 哪个消息来源? |
| 1377 | And 3,000 other articles. | 及三千篇别篇. |
| 1378 | Too many, right? | 太多了,对吧? |
| 1379 | So news has become commoditized. | 因此,新闻变得商品化。 |
| 1380 | So the entire news media has shifted into peddling opinions and entertainment. | 因此,整个新闻媒体已经转向兜售观点和娱乐. |
| 1381 | And so now they've become a variation between cheerleaders, shock troops, enforcers, talking | 所以现在他们变成了啦啦队队长 突击队 执行者 说话者 |
| 1382 | heads. | 头曰. |
| 1383 | So these are now propaganda machines signaling for their tribes. | 所以现在这些是宣传机器 为他们的部落发出信号。 |
| 1384 | 右胁而 one. | |
| 1385 | There's a left-wing one, right? | 有一个左翼的,对不对? |
| 1386 | There's the alt-right. | 复次右绕. |
| 1387 | There's a control-left. | 有控左. |
| 1388 | And the two of them are just fighting it out using their various media organs and memes. | 他们俩只是利用 不同的媒体器官和迷因来对抗它。 |
| 1389 | So basically, when you see one of these news organizations doxing an individual, that's | 所以,基本上,当你看到这些新闻组织之一 给个人做恶作剧,这就是 |
| 1390 | like a tank running over a soldier, right? | 就像坦克碾过一个士兵,对吧? |
| 1391 | That's what's going on. | 即是现前. |
| 1392 | It's just war. | 这只是战争。 |
| 1393 | And so there's no such thing anymore as a neutral media commentator. | 因此不再有中立的媒体评论员. |
| 1394 | The illusion of objectivity that journalism had is lost. | 新闻业的客观性幻想已经丧失。 |
| 1395 | 不再有像Walter Cronkite这样的人 所有人都会听 | |
| 1396 | It's now all just shock troops fighting wars with each other. | 现在一切都只是震惊部队 互相战争。 |
| 1397 | How does this play out? | 怎么样? |
| 1398 | Have you thought about it? | 你有想过吗? |
| 1399 | Yeah, a little bit. | 是啊,一点点。 |
| 1400 | So what the internet does, a lot of this is internet-driven. | 所以互联网所做的,很多都是互联网驱动的。 |
| 1401 | What the internet does is the internet creates one giant aggregator or two for everything, | 互联网所做的是,互联网创造了一个巨大的集合器或两个所有的东西, |
| 1402 | one taxi dispatcher, one e-commerce store, one search engine, one social media site for | 一个出租车调度员、一个电子商务商店、一个搜索引擎、一个社交媒体网站 |
| 1403 | friends and family, one for business, et cetera. | 朋友和家人,一个为生意,等等。 |
| 1404 | So the internet is this giant aggregator where it creates one big hegemon for everything, | 因此,互联网是一个巨大的集合器 在那里它创造了一个巨大的霸主的一切, |
| 1405 | and it creates an atomized long tail of millions and millions of individuals. | 它造就了数百万个体的 原子化的长尾巴 |
| 1406 | What it gets rid of is the medium-sized ones in the middle. | 它得到的是中量级的。 |
| 1407 | So for example, you might have had like seven Hollywood studios. | 比如说,你可能有七个好莱坞工作室 |
| 1408 | 嗯,这一切都将是Netflix。 | |
| 1409 | You had like 10 large e-commerce players, so commerce players from Walmart to Costco | 你大概有10个大型电子商务商 所以从沃尔玛到好市多 |
| 1410 | 给Kmart什么的。 | |
| 1411 | Now it's just going to be Amazon and a ton of small individual brands. | 现在它只是要去亚马逊 和一吨小个人品牌。 |
| 1412 | So that's the world that we're headed towards, one hegemon and millions of individuals. | 这就是我们走向的世界 一个霸主和数百万个人 |
| 1413 | So where it ends up long-term is media will be a few gigantic outlets. | 媒体将会是少数大型媒体。 |
| 1414 | It could be the New York Times. | 可能是纽约时报 |
| 1415 | It could be Facebook, a few like that. | 可能是脸书,像那样 |
| 1416 | And there's going to be just a really long tail of millions of independent people. | 会有数百万独立人士的长尾巴。 |
| 1417 | So this idea of who's a journalist and who's not is Assange a journalist or not. | 所以,这个关于谁是记者,谁是不是记者的想法是阿桑奇是否是记者. |
| 1418 | Everyone's a journalist. | 每个人都是记者 |
| 1419 | That's the world that we're headed towards. | 这就是我们走向的世界。 |
| 1420 | I do think the extreme power, the most powerful people in the world today, | 我认为,极端的力量, 最强大的人 当今世界, |
| 1421 | the most powerful people in the world today, the most powerful people in the world today, | 当今世界上最强大的人 当今世界上最强大的人 |
| 1422 | And this is not well known, but the most powerful people in the world today are the people who | 这不为人所熟知 但今天世界上最强大的人 就是那些... |
| 1423 | 正在为Twitter、Facebook和Instagram编写算法,因为他们控制着 | |
| 1424 | the spread of information. | 信息传播。 |
| 1425 | They're literally rewriting people's brains. | 他们实际上在改写人们的大脑。 |
| 1426 | They're programming the culture, and they're doing it very subtly. | 他们正在编程文化, 他们做的非常狡猾。 |
| 1427 | Like Google, I believe that, you know, one of their execs got up in front of Congress | 就像谷歌,我相信,你知道, 他们的一位执行官 在国会面前 |
| 1428 | and the congressman asked him, you know, do you manipulate search results? | 议员问他 你操纵搜索结果吗? |
| 1429 | And he said, no, we do not manipulate search results. | 他说,不,我们不操纵搜索结果。 |
| 1430 | Really? | 真的吗? |
| 1431 | That's your job. | 这是你的工作 |
| 1432 | That is literally all Google does. | 谷歌就是这样的 |
| 1433 | Google has one job, which is to manipulate search results, to pull them out of the noise | Google有一项工作,就是操纵搜索结果,从噪音中拉出来 |
| 1434 | and rank them properly. | 并正确排序他们。 |
| 1435 | And the precise algorithms of how they do that is very hidden, very complex, but influences | 他们如何做的精确算法 是非常隐蔽,非常复杂,但影响 |
| 1436 | the hearts and minds of everybody, including all the voters. | 包括所有选民 |
| 1437 | 现在,如果Google、Facebook和Twitter对此很聪明,他们就不会有 | |
| 1438 | picked sides. | 选择的侧面。 |
| 1439 | They would have said, we're publishers, whatever goes through our pipes, goes through our pipes. | 他们会说,我们是出版商, 不管通过我们的管道, 通过我们的管道。 |
| 1440 | If it's illegal, we'll take it down, give us a court order. | 如犯法,则取之,授官令. |
| 1441 | Otherwise, we don't touch it. | 否则,我们不会碰它。 |
| 1442 | It's like the phone company. | 这就像电话公司。 |
| 1443 | If I call you up and I say something horrible to you on the phone, the phone company doesn't | 如果我给你打电话 和你讲些可怕的话 电话公司不会 |
| 1444 | get in trouble. | 惹上麻烦。 |
| 1445 | But the moment they started taking stuff down that wasn't illegal because somebody screamed, | 但是,当他们开始拿东西下来 不违法 因为有人尖叫, |
| 1446 | they basically lost their right to be viewed as a carrier. | 他们基本上失去了被视为承运人的权利。 |
| 1447 | And now all of a sudden, they've taken on liability. | 现在突然 他们承担了责任 |
| 1448 | So they're sliding down the slippery slope into ruin where the left wants them to take | 所以他们从滑坡上滑下去 变成废墟 左翼要他们去的地方 |
| 1449 | down the right, the right wants them to take down the left, and now they have no more friends, | 右下方,右侧要他们打倒左侧 现在他们没有朋友了 |
| 1450 | they have no allies. | 他们没有盟友。 |
| 1451 | Traditionally, the libertarian-leaning Republicans and Democrats would have stood up in principle | 传统上,自由主义者的共和党人和民主党人 原则上会站出来 |
| 1452 | for the common carriers, but now they won't. | 但现在他们不会了 |
| 1453 | So my guess is, as soon as Congress, and this day is coming, if not already here, it might | 所以我猜,一旦国会, 而这一天即将来临, 如果不是已经在这里,它可能 |
| 1454 | even have been here today, actually, because I saw something related in the news, the day | 今天我甚至都来过这里 因为我在新闻里看到一些有关的事情 |
| 1455 | is coming when the politicians realize that these social media platforms are picking the | 当政客们意识到 这些社交媒体平台正在挑选 |
| 1456 | next president, the next congressman. | 下届总统,下届议员 |
| 1457 | They're literally picking, and they have the power to pick, so they will be controlled | 他们真的在采摘, 他们有权力采摘, 所以他们会被控制 |
| 1458 | by the government. | 由政府负责。 |
| 1459 | And in what way? | 怎样? |
| 1460 | How do you think they're going to be controlled? | 你觉得他们会被怎样控制? |
| 1461 | Do you think they're going to have to adhere to strict principles of freedom of speech? | 你觉得他们要坚持言论自由的严格原则吗? |
| 1462 | No, no. | 没有,没有。 |
| 1463 | Unfortunately, it's headed the opposite direction, right? | 不幸的是,它的方向相反,对不对? |
| 1464 | The opposite direction. | 则相反之方向. |
| 1465 | I wish it was freedom of speech. | 我希望这是言论自由。 |
| 1466 | Much more likely, they're going to be, in the short to medium term, they're going to | 更有可能,在中短期内,他们会 |
| 1467 | be hauled in for hearings, they're going to be pressured massively, do this, don't do that. | 被拖进听证会, 他们会受到巨大的压力, 做到这一点,不要这样做。 |
| 1468 | My concern about that is the hearings that I saw with Zuckerberg, those people were completely | 我担心的是 我和扎克伯格的听证会 那些人完全 |
| 1469 | incompetent. | 无能者. |
| 1470 | They didn't seem to understand. | 他们似乎不明白。 |
| 1471 | They don't. | 他们没有。 |
| 1472 | But they're just applying pressure. | 但他们只是在施压 |
| 1473 | They're just trying to scare him so he'll do what they want. | 他们只是想吓唬他 这样他就会做他们想做的事 |
| 1474 | What do they want him to do? | 他们要他做什么? |
| 1475 | They want him to basically suppress the other side. | 他们希望他基本上压制对方。 |
| 1476 | So if you're a right wing, you want to suppress the left wing, if you're a left wing, you | 所以,如果你是右翼, 你想压制左翼, 如果你是左翼,你 |
| 1477 | want to suppress the right wing. | 想压制右翼 |
| 1478 | And if you just see where these companies are headquartered in Silicon Valley, all the | 如果你看看这些公司的总部在硅谷,所有 |
| 1479 | censors, and that's really what they are, they're censors working inside these companies, | 检查者,其实他们就是, 他们是在这些公司工作的检查者, |
| 1480 | they're just called, they're called by different names, obviously, right? | 他们只是叫, 他们叫不同的名字, 显然,对不对? |
| 1481 | Double-speak, you call it the Department of Defense when it's the Department of War. | 双语,战时称国防部. |
| 1482 | So in this case, the Department of Safety and Trust when really it's the Department | 因此,在这种情况下,安全和信任部 当它真的是部 |
| 1483 | of Censorship. | 检查。 |
| 1484 | The censors are inside Silicon Valley, so it's going to reflect Silicon Valley's politics. | 检查人员在硅谷内,因此会反映硅谷的政治. |
| 1485 | Which is extremely progressive left-wing. | 这是极进步的左翼。 |
| 1486 | And if you're not that, you really have no place. | 如果你不是那样的话, 你真的没有地方。 |
| 1487 | Try being a conservative, an open conservative at Google. | 尝试在Google成为保守派,开放保守派. |
| 1488 | Good luck. | 祝你好运 |
| 1489 | Now you get lynched. | 现在你被私刑处死 |
| 1490 | It's crazy. | 太疯狂了 |
| 1491 | I mean, I don't think that there was ever a thing like that, that was so influential | 我的意思是,我不认为 曾经有这样的事情, 这是那么有影响力 |
| 1492 | and so politically, ideologically one-sided. | 政治上,意识形态上都是片面的 |
| 1493 | Yeah, there's a little saying on the internet, I think it's called Conquest Law, that any | 是啊,互联网上有个小词 我想这叫做"征服法" 任何 |
| 1494 | organization that's not explicitly right-wing eventually becomes left-wing. | 没有明确的右翼组织最终变成了左翼组织. |
| 1495 | And I don't know why that's true, but it does seem to me to be true. | 我不知道这是为什么 但我觉得这是真的 |
| 1496 | It's a fascinating battle that's going on right now, I mean, it really is. | 这是一个令人着迷的战斗,现在正在发生, 我的意思是,这是真的。 |
| 1497 | And conservatives, as far as social media is concerned, they're just getting chopped | 而保守派,就社交媒体而言, 他们只是被砍伤 |
| 1498 | off at the hams, left and right. | 左转右转 |
| 1499 | What will eventually happen is that whenever you suppress speech, the organism metastasizes. | 最终会发生的是,每当你压制语言, 机体就会变形。 |
| 1500 | Then it has to start turning towards other means. | 然后它必须开始转向其他方式。 |
| 1501 | If you're unlucky, it goes towards violence. | 如果你运气不好,它会走向暴力。 |
| 1502 | If you're lucky, they find other outlets. | 如果你幸运的话,他们会找到其他的渠道 |
| 1503 | I think what will happen is we will start creating decentralized media that's not owned | 我认为会发生什么,我们将开始 创建分散的媒体 不属于所有 |
| 1504 | by any single entity, that can't be suppressed or shut down, that will then start spreading | 由任何单一实体, 无法压制或关闭, 然后开始扩散 |
| 1505 | these various things. | 这些不同的东西。 |
| 1506 | And that will take the place of Twitter or Facebook or whatever. | 这将会取代推特或Facebook之类的。 |
| 1507 | But it's going to take 10 years, 20 years, it's not overnight. | 但是要花十年,二十年时间,不是过夜. |
| 1508 | Well, Twitter took 10 years to get to the point where it's at this mess right now. | 那个 推特花了10年时间 才到达现在这个烂摊子的地步。 |
| 1509 | But it was so interesting to have Jack Dorsey and to talk to him about where it's going, | 但让杰克多西和他谈谈去向 很有趣 |
| 1510 | where he thinks it's going, and his own principles, which he believes that it's a fundamental | 和他自己的原则,他认为这是一个根本 |
| 1511 | right and he believes that freedom of speech is something that we all should have and that | 他相信言论自由是我们大家都应该拥有的 |
| 1512 | these platforms should essentially be like utilities, like the electric company. | 这些平台基本上应该像电力公司一样。 |
| 1513 | Jack is correct, and he has the right vision, it's just he's in an organization where the | 杰克是正确的,他有正确的愿景, 只是他在一个组织,在那里 |
| 1514 | other individuals in the organization feel differently. | 组织中的其他人有不同的感受。 |
| 1515 | Very differently. | 非常不一样 |
| 1516 | So the organization itself can get hijacked. | 这样组织本身就可以被劫持. |
| 1517 | And his timeline for changing things is like, it's decades, I mean, I shouldn't say decades, | 他改变事情的时间表是, 几十年,我的意思是,我不应该说几十年, |
| 1518 | but I mean, I was like, when do you think that something, there was one idea of having | 但我的意思是,我像,当你认为 某事,有一个想法 |
| 1519 | an uncensored Twitter, like one Twitter that's the Wild West, like you can have regular Twitter | 一个未经审查的推特, 就像一个推特,这是狂野的西部, 就像你可以有普通的推特 |
| 1520 | or you could try Wild West Twitter. | 或者你可以试试Wild West的推特 |
| 1521 | Well, that already exists in a network called GAB. | 这已经存在于一个叫做GAB的网络中。 |
| 1522 | Yes, but GAB isn't even Wild West Twitter. | 是的,但GAB甚至不是 狂野的西部推特。 |
| 1523 | When people dox people, they remove things like that. | 当人们做恶作剧的时候,他们就会去除类似的东西. |
| 1524 | Yeah, I mean, I think there's certainly lines around violence and illegality that you don't | 是啊,我的意思是,我认为肯定有线 关于暴力和非法 你没有 |
| 1525 | want to cross, but GAB is closer to a free speech platform, but it's still not decentralized, | 想要跨越,但GAB更接近 言论自由的平台,但它仍然没有分散, |
| 1526 | it can still get shut down, it can still get taken out. | 它仍然可以关闭, 它仍然可以取出。 |
| 1527 | It's also suppressed heavily. | 亦被大力压制. |
| 1528 | Yes, and the people on there are right now extremely right wing, so it's not a pleasant | 是的,那里的人现在都是极右翼 所以这可不愉快 |
| 1529 | place for someone like me to hang out. | 我这样的人可以出去玩 |
| 1530 | What's all the people that have been kicked off of something else, so try going over there | 那些被其他东西踢走的人是什么 所以试着去那边 |
| 1531 | and being moderate, try going over there, there's no room for you. | 和温和,尝试去那里, 没有你的房间。 |
| 1532 | Yeah, unfortunately, because I don't identify as any party or any creed, it doesn't work for me. | 是啊,很不幸,因为我不 确定为任何政党或任何信条, 它对我无效。 |
| 1533 | Is that a problem in Silicon Valley when you don't identify as anything? | 在硅谷里,你没有发现什么问题吗? |
| 1534 | Do you get pressure? | 你有压力吗? |
| 1535 | Totally, it used to be okay, it's not okay anymore. | 完全,它过去是好的, 它已经不是好的了。 |
| 1536 | When was it okay? | 什么时候可以? |
| 1537 | Ten years ago, I would say it was okay. | 十年前,我会说没关系 |
| 1538 | And then you started seeing a shift? | 然后你开始看轮班? |
| 1539 | And now you have to pick sides, otherwise you're automatically the enemy. | 现在,你必须选择侧面, 否则你就自动成为敌人。 |
| 1540 | Really? | 真的吗? |
| 1541 | Struggle sessions and all that. | 挣扎的届会等等。 |
| 1542 | Struggle sessions. | 奋斗会. |
| 1543 | I'm exaggerating for a fact, but it definitely has that oppressive feeling to it. | 我夸大了一个事实, 但肯定有那种压迫感。 |
| 1544 | Right, and you also have to be politically outspoken. | 是的,你也必须 在政治上直言不讳。 |
| 1545 | It can't be something that you just stay neutral about. | 这不可能是你保持中立的东西。 |
| 1546 | Right, it's like when Tim Ferriss, I think, at some point put out a tweet about how you | 是的,这就像当蒂姆・费里斯, 我想,在某个时候, 发布一个推特 关于你是如何 |
| 1547 | can't just say anything anymore, and people are being suppressed, and a whole bunch of people, | 不能再说什么了 人们被压制了 一群人 |
| 1548 | a lot of them from Silicon Valley, piled in and said, what is it that you can't say? | 许多来自硅谷,堆积起来说,什么是不能说的? |
| 1549 | What are you afraid to say? | 你害怕说什么? |
| 1550 | You can say whatever you want, Tim, go ahead. | 蒂姆,随便你怎么说 |
| 1551 | What are you afraid of? | 你怕什么? 你怕谁? |
| 1552 | Yeah, what was he trying to say? | 是啊,他想说什么? |
| 1553 | Wow, we have to put him in that box. | 哇,我们必须把他放在那个盒子里。 |
| 1554 | He was someone who was thinking about saying something he shouldn't have said. | 他是想说些不该说的话 |
| 1555 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 1556 | Now we know. | 现在我们知道了。 |
| 1557 | One great tweet I saw was, you know, the left won the culture wars, | 我看见一个伟大的推特 是,你知道,左边赢得了文化战争, |
| 1558 | now they're just driving around shooting the survivors. | 现在他们只是开车到处射杀幸存者 |
| 1559 | Wow, that's hilarious. | 哇,这太好笑了。 |
| 1560 | Yeah, I wonder. | 对,我想知道 |
| 1561 | I wonder who has won the culture war. | 我想知道谁赢得了文化战争。 |
| 1562 | There's certainly a battle that's been won in terms of like control of social media. | 肯定有一场战斗 在社交媒体的控制上获得了胜利 |
| 1563 | Control of social media has absolutely left. | 对社交媒体的控制已经完全停止。 |
| 1564 | Well, this is unfortunate for conservatives, but technology is a force that also pushes left. | 这对保守派来说是不幸的, 但科技也是推动左翼的力量。 |
| 1565 | So if you look all throughout human history, like the left essentially grows and grows and grows, | 所以,如果你在人类历史中观察一切, 就像左边基本上生长,生长,生长, |
| 1566 | right? | 对吧? |
| 1567 | Why is that? | 为什么? |
| 1568 | Why is it inexorably that, as some commentators have said, Leviathan slouches left, right? | 为什么,正如一些评论家所言,利维坦惨败左,右? |
| 1569 | Leviathan is the government. | 利维坦是政府。 |
| 1570 | Why does it slouch left? | 为什么它溜走了? |
| 1571 | And I think a lot of that has been because of technology. | 我认为其中很多都是因为技术。 |
| 1572 | Technology has made it so that it makes more like industrial revolution technology. | 技术使它更像工业革命技术. |
| 1573 | We all band together. | 我们都聚在一起。 |
| 1574 | We're wards of the state, right? | 我们是州里的病房,对吧? |
| 1575 | Contraception is a technology that kind of helps lean leftward. | 避孕是一种能帮助左倾的技术。 |
| 1576 | It takes away from the family unit. | 它夺走了家庭单元。 |
| 1577 | Abortion is a technology, right? | 堕胎是一种技术,对吧? |
| 1578 | It wasn't possible thousands of years ago. | 这不可能是几千年前的事了 |
| 1579 | So technology actually empowers the individual. | 因此技术实际上赋予了个人力量。 |
| 1580 | The individual means that you have the breakdown of family structure and religion and all that. | 个人是指家庭结构和宗教的崩溃等等。 |
| 1581 | And I'm not necessarily opposed to that, but it does mean that there's a leftward shift to it. | 我不一定反对,但这确实意味着有左倾的转变。 |
| 1582 | Now we are getting a small set of technologies that actually can take you more rightward. | 现在,我们得到了一套小技术, 可以让你更正确。 |
| 1583 | Encryption is an example because encryption makes it easier to have privacy. | 加密是一个例子,因为加密更容易有隐私. |
| 1584 | It makes it easier to have money that is outside of the state. | 更方便有财在州外. |
| 1585 | Guns, 3D printing of guns is an example of a technology that is more of a rightward shift. | 枪械,枪械的3D打印是一个技术更右转的例子. |
| 1586 | But generally, technology leads the world left. | 但总的来说,技术领导着世界左翼。 |
| 1587 | Yeah, it's also usually highly educated people that are involved in technology in the first place. | 是啊,它通常也是 受过高等教育的人 谁参与技术 首先。 |
| 1588 | I think when you look at universities in particular, they tend to lean left in this country as well. | 我认为,当你特别看大学的时候, 他们也倾向于在这个国家左倾。 |
| 1589 | What happened with universities is very interesting. | 大学发生的事很有趣 |
| 1590 | Universities first became the arbiters of data and intellectualism and what's right and wrong. | 大学首先成为数据和知识主义以及什么是对什么是错的仲裁者. |
| 1591 | So there was a time period when it was like, should we be doing that or not? | 因此,有一个时期,它是什么, 我们是否这样做? |
| 1592 | Well, let's look at the university. | 好吧,让我们看看大学。 |
| 1593 | What do they have to say? | 他们要说什么? |
| 1594 | What are the smartest people, the professors, the think tanks have to say? | 最聪明的人是什么 教授 智囊团要说什么? |
| 1595 | And the universities got this credibility from the hard sciences. | 大学从硬科学中获得了这种信誉。 |
| 1596 | So they got this from physics and math and computer science and chemistry because these | 他们从物理和数学 计算机科学和化学中得到了这个 因为这些 |
| 1597 | deliver real things, the Manhattan Project, the microprocessor, the space vehicles and so on, | 提供真实的东西,曼哈顿计划,微处理器,太空飞行器等等, |
| 1598 | the electric car. | 电动车。 |
| 1599 | So they gained this mantle of authority and legitimacy from the hard sciences. | 因此他们从硬科学中获得了这个权威和合法性的地幔. |
| 1600 | So then come the social sciences kind of sneak in. | 然后社会科学就溜进来了。 |
| 1601 | Then you get economics. | 然后你得到经济学。 |
| 1602 | Microeconomics is a real discipline, real science, real math behind it, logic, reason. | 微观经济学是一个真正的学科,真正的科学,真正的数学背后,逻辑,理性. |
| 1603 | And then you get macroeconomics, which can be politicized a little bit more voodoo. | 然后你得到宏观经济学, 这可以被政治化一点点 巫术。 |
| 1604 | And then you get social studies and then you get gender studies and then you get blah, blah, | 然后你得到社会研究,然后得到性别研究,然后得到什么,等等, |
| 1605 | blah, blah也. | |
| 1606 | And so what happened is that because we took scientists to be the high priests of our new | 事情是这样的,因为我们把科学家 当作我们新的祭司 |
| 1607 | world, science itself has gotten corrupted. | 科学本身已经腐朽了 |
| 1608 | And the social sciences, and you can tell they're fake sciences because they're the | 以及社会科学, 你可以知道它们是假科学,因为它们是 |
| 1609 | science tacked on at the end, have come in and hijacked the universities and become the | 科学在结尾, 已经进来并劫持了大学 |
| 1610 | new think tanks. | 新智库。 |
| 1611 | And so essentially what you see going on today in the universities is a war between the social | 所以基本上你今天在大学里看到的 是一场社会之间的战争 |
| 1612 | sciences and the physical sciences. | 科学与物理科学. |
| 1613 | And the crossover point is biology, right? | 交叉点是生物学 对吧? |
| 1614 | Where you can see like the whole gender is a social construct movement is attacking biology | 你可以看到整个性别 是一个社会结构运动 攻击生物学 |
| 1615 | and evolutionary biology. | 和进化生物学。 |
| 1616 | Just like in the social sphere, they're coming after the comedians, right? | 就像在社会领域, 他们来找喜剧演员,对不对? |
| 1617 | But you can see the struggle going on in the universities. | 但你可以看到大学里的斗争正在发生. |
| 1618 | And I would say the physical sciences are essentially losing that war. | 我要说物理科学基本上正在输掉这场战争。 |
| 1619 | What can be done? | 还能做什么? |
| 1620 | Or is it just something that has to play out? | 还是只是一些事情 不得不发挥出来? |
| 1621 | Do we have to realize the consequences of the foolishness? | 我们必须认识到愚蠢的后果吗? |
| 1622 | Well, the good news is the physical sciences have a reality on their side. | 好消息是 物理科学在他们这边是现实 |
| 1623 | Yeah, but it's not even, I mean, in many ways, it's not respected. | 是的,但它不是,我的意思是,在许多方面, 它不尊重。 |
| 1624 | Yeah, but at the end of the day, your aircraft still has to fly. | 是的,但最后, 你的飞机仍然必须飞行。 |
| 1625 | Your microprocessor still has to compute. | 您的微处理器还需要计算 。 |
| 1626 | So there's only so far they can take it. | 所以现在只有他们能承受了 |
| 1627 | But I do see, for example, in biology, a lot of biologists are facing this difficult thing | 但我确实看到,比如说,在生物学中, 很多生物学家正面临这种困难 |
| 1628 | where they have to say things that they know are not true to keep their job. | 在那里,他们不得不说他们知道的事情 是不真实的保持他们的工作。 |
| 1629 | Like what? | 比如说? |
| 1630 | 你让Bret Weinstein在这里,对吧? | |
| 1631 | So that's a clear example. | 因此,这是一个明显的例子。 |
| 1632 | So there's just the crossover line of what is acceptable and what's not is entering into | 所以只有可以接受和不能接受的交叉线 |
| 1633 | biology. | 生物学. |
| 1634 | And biology will probably suffer the most. | 而生物学可能受的伤害最大。 |
| 1635 | Synthetic biology, for example, will, you know, a lot of this will end up in China | 比如,合成生物学, 将会,你知道,很多 这一切将最终在中国 |
| 1636 | because you won't be able to map facts and reality and actions together. | 因为你无法把事实和现实 以及行动联系起来 |
| 1637 | You won't be able to get grants. | 你拿不到补助金的 |
| 1638 | You won't be able to get the adulation of your peers. | 你不会得到你的同行的赞美。 |
| 1639 | I don't know enough here. | 我在这里还不清楚 |
| 1640 | So now I'm in shaky territory, but it's just my sense that that crossover | 所以现在我处于不稳定的地盘, 但这只是我的感觉,交叉 |
| 1641 | battleground right now is in evolutionary biology. | 现在的战场是进化生物学。 |
| 1642 | Economics lost. | 经济输了 |
| 1643 | Well, it's certainly in terms of gender and that seems to be one of the major battlegrounds. | 嗯,这肯定在性别方面, 这似乎是主要战场之一。 |
| 1644 | It's also going to happen, for example, blank slate theory. | 它也会发生,例如空白的板块理论. |
| 1645 | You know, are we nature or are we nurture? | 你知道,我们是大自然还是被培育? |
| 1646 | It's kind of socially unacceptable to say that, you know, a lot of it is nature and | 社会上是无法接受的 说,你知道,很多是自然和 |
| 1647 | not nurture or vice versa, depending on which side you're on. | 不培育,反之亦然,取决于你站在哪一边。 |
| 1648 | Those kinds of discussions get corrupted. | 那种讨论被腐蚀了 |
| 1649 | They do get corrupted. | 他们的确腐败了 |
| 1650 | It's really unfortunate because that's an unbelievably important thing to understand. | 这实在是不幸的,因为这是一件令人难以置信的重要事情来理解. |
| 1651 | Like what makes a person a sociopath? | 像是什么使一个人是一个反社会的人? |
| 1652 | What makes a person a super successful person, a winner? | 是什么使一个人 一个超级成功的人,一个胜利者? |
| 1653 | What makes a person a drug addict? | 为什么一个人会变成瘾君子? |
| 1654 | What are these factors? | 这些因素是什么? |
| 1655 | You can't have a reasonable conversation about climate science anymore. | 你不能再对气候科学进行理性的对话了. |
| 1656 | It's not a science. | 这不是科学 |
| 1657 | It's all politicized. | 皆为政治化. |
| 1658 | You can't even bring it up. | 你甚至不能提出来。 |
| 1659 | Everyone's got their minds made up already. | 每个人都已经决定了 |
| 1660 | Well, what's uncomfortable to me is people have their minds made up and | 嗯,让我不自在的是 人们有他们的决定 |
| 1661 | they don't even have the data. | 他们甚至没有数据。 |
| 1662 | On most of these topics, people are talking past each other anyway. | 在大多数这些话题上, |
| 1663 | They're talking about different things. | 他们谈论的是不同的事情。 |
| 1664 | Like when you get into, you know, when you get into gun control, for example, right? | 比如说,当你进入枪支控制系统时,对吧? |
| 1665 | One side is talking about the right to bear arms in case a tyrannical ruler or king | 一方是说在暴政统治者或国王的情况下 有权携带武器 |
| 1666 | tries to take over the country. | 试图接管这个国家。 |
| 1667 | The other side is talking about school shootings and, you know, protecting | 对方在谈论学校枪击 还有保护 |
| 1668 | people in their homes, right? | 人们在家里,对不对? |
| 1669 | From crime. | 从犯罪. |
| 1670 | So they're just talking about two different things. | 所以他们只是说两件事 |
| 1671 | And it's just not politically acceptable to even talk about the same thing. | 而即使是谈论同样的事情,在政治上也是不能接受的. |
| 1672 | Or when it gets to immigration, the right is talking about, you know, | 或者当它进入移民, 权利是谈论,你知道, |
| 1673 | or the left is like bundling together illegal immigration and legal | 或者左侧就像捆绑 非法移民和合法 |
| 1674 | immigration into one thing. | 移民进一件事。 |
| 1675 | Whereas on the right, sometimes you've got racist hiding in there, so it doesn't | 右边有时你藏着种族主义者 所以不会 |
| 1676 | help their cause, right? | 帮助他们的事业,对不对? |
| 1677 | They're talking about two different things. | 二者分别说法. |
| 1678 | If they were talking about the same thing, which is how many immigrants should | 如果他们说的是同样的事情, 这就是多少移民应该 |
| 1679 | we let into the country and, you know, what are the criteria for that? | 我们让进入这个国家, 你知道,什么是标准呢? |
| 1680 | That would be a very different conversation than no immigrants or everybody | 那会是一个非常不同的谈话 比没有移民或每个人 |
| 1681 | comes in. | 进来 |
| 1682 | And then also on the left, you know, you have this benefit that everybody who's | 然后在左边,你知道, 你有一个好处,每个人都谁 |
| 1683 | currently coming in illegally is going to vote for the left because of where | 目前非法入境者将投票支持左翼,因为 |
| 1684 | they're coming from and their socioeconomic circumstances. | 他们来自和他们的社会经济状况。 |
| 1685 | To me, the test of any good system is you build a system, hand it over to your | 对我来说,测试任何好的系统 就是你建立系统,把它交给你 |
| 1686 | enemies to run for the next decade. | 敌人将在未来十年中奔跑。 |
| 1687 | So for example, if you want a censorship on Twitter or Facebook, you should build | 例如,如果你想在Twitter或Facebook上进行审查,你应该建立 |
| 1688 | that system and then hand it over to the other side to run. | 然后把它交给另一边去运行 |
| 1689 | So if you're a left-winger who's promoting censorship, let somebody else | 所以如果你是左翼分子 提倡审查,让别人来 |
| 1690 | running. | 运行中。 |
| 1691 | Same with immigration. | 和移民一样 |
| 1692 | If you want immigration system, build a system, then hand it over to the other | 如果你想要移民制度,就建立一个制度,然后把它交给别人 |
| 1693 | side to running. | 一边跑 |
| 1694 | That's how you know it's a good system. | 故知此制度之妙. |
| 1695 | There's no room for nuance when you're dealing with these political | 面对这些政治,没有细微的空间 |
| 1696 | battlegrounds. | 战场 |
| 1697 | When you're dealing with right versus left and one side has a clearly established | 当你面对的是右对左 一方有明确的确定 |
| 1698 | stance that you're supposed to take, like gun control is a great example of | 你本该采取的立场, 就像枪械管制 是一个很好的例子 |
| 1699 | that, right? | 是吗? |
| 1700 | There's no room for what about mental health? | 心理健康没有空间吗? |
| 1701 | What about the fact that so many of these people are on psych medication? | 那这些人中这么多人都在接受精神治疗呢? |
| 1702 | Right. | 对 |
| 1703 | Why is that not being discussed? | 为什么没有人讨论这个问题? |
| 1704 | We're running one of the greatest mental health experiments in history. | 我们正在进行有史以来最伟大的心理健康实验之一。 |
| 1705 | We're doping everybody up in SSRIs and maybe if you give 30 million people SSRIs, | 给三千万人注射SSRI |
| 1706 | maybe like 29.9 million are a lot happier. | 也许2,990万更快乐 |
| 1707 | And then you have a fraction that commits suicide or detonate. | 然后,你有一个分数 自杀或引爆。 |
| 1708 | You're basically trading the mean for the variance. | 你基本上在用这个来换取差异 |
| 1709 | You have blow up risk. | 你冒了险 |
| 1710 | Yeah, there's no room for nuance, which is why I stay out of politics largely. | 是啊,没有细微的空间, 这就是为什么我基本上不参与政治。 |
| 1711 | Do they drag you in though sometimes? | 他们有时会把你拖进来吗? |
| 1712 | They always try. | 他们总是尝试。 |
| 1713 | I mean, even this conversation is going to force you to get dragged in. | 连这次谈话都会逼你被拖进来 |
| 1714 | I'm sure there's going to be some people. | 定有众生. |
| 1715 | Here's the thing about politics. | 政治问题是这样的 |
| 1716 | Because we have a first past the post system. | 因为我们第一次通过邮局系统 |
| 1717 | What that means is whoever wins 51% of the vote in this country gets a lot of the power, | 这意味着谁赢得了51%的选票 这个国家获得了很多权力, |
| 1718 | right? | 对吧? |
| 1719 | It's not like proportional representation where the greens have 10% and the libertarians | 这不像比例代表 绿色有10%和自由主义者 |
| 1720 | have 3% or whatever. | 拥有3%左右。 |
| 1721 | It's just like you're all Democrat in power and now we're all Republican. | 就像你们都当权的民主党人 现在我们都是共和党人 |
| 1722 | Because of that, to win, you have to pick one of these two sides, right? | 因为这样,要赢,你必须选两边之一,对吧? |
| 1723 | You have to choose. | 你必须选择 |
| 1724 | You can't just basically say, I'm going to be nuanced about it. | 你不能简单地说, 我会被细微的。 |
| 1725 | You can't vote for a third party that's throwing away your vote, right? | 你不能投给放弃投票的第三方,对吧? |
| 1726 | I have a friend who's trying to fix that. | 我有个朋友想解决这个问题 |
| 1727 | He started this thing called a good party where you kickstart your vote. | 他发动了这个叫好派对 你开始投票 |
| 1728 | So you combine all your votes. | 所以,你结合了所有的选票。 |
| 1729 | You hold them in reserve. | 你把他们留在预备队 |
| 1730 | And then when you have enough to win, then you vote that person in power, right? | 然后当你有足够的赢, 然后你投票给掌权的人,对不对? |
| 1731 | So you don't throw away your vote. | 所以你不会放弃你的投票。 |
| 1732 | But outside of those hacks, we're never going to get a third party elected. | 但是除了那些黑客之外 我们永远不能选出第三方 |
| 1733 | So because of that, all of your beliefs have to neatly fit into the Democrat bundle or | 因此,你所有的信仰 必须整洁地融入民主党的捆绑或 |
| 1734 | the Republican bundle. | 共和党包。 |
| 1735 | And so when you get into that tribe, if you signal outside of that bundle, you get attacked. | 所以当你进入那个部落, 如果你在捆绑外面发出信号, 你就会受到攻击。 |
| 1736 | So it's literally, it's making you into an unclear thinker. | 所以从字面上来说,它让你变成了一个不明确的思想家。 |
| 1737 | It's making you into a muddled thinker. | 令成泥led智者. |
| 1738 | If all of your beliefs line up into one political party, you're not a clear thinker. | 如果你所有的信仰 排成一个政党, 你不是一个明确的思考者。 |
| 1739 | If all your beliefs are the same as your neighbors and your friends, you're not a clear thinker. | 如果你所有的信仰都和你的邻居和朋友一样的话,你不是一个明确的思考者. |
| 1740 | You're literally just, your beliefs are socialized. | 你只是,你的信仰是社会化的。 |
| 1741 | They're taken from other people. | 他们从别人那里拿走的。 |
| 1742 | So if you want to be a clear thinker, you cannot pay attention to politics. | 所以,如果想成为明确的思想家,就不能注意政治. |
| 1743 | It will destroy your ability to think. | 它会破坏你思考的能力 |
| 1744 | What dread. | 多么可怕的东西。 |
| 1745 | Most of modern life, all our diseases are diseases of abundance, not diseases of scarcity, | 大多数现代生活,我们所有的疾病都是富足的疾病,而不是稀缺的疾病, |
| 1746 | right? | 对吧? |
| 1747 | Old times, I may have starved. | 旧时,我可能饿坏了 |
| 1748 | Old times, if I got sugar, that was a wonderful thing. | 旧的,如果我有糖,这是一件美妙的事情。 |
| 1749 | I should have eaten all the sugar to get my hands on. | 我本该把糖都吃了才对 |
| 1750 | If I got in a piece of news or gossip, that was interesting data that would have helped | 如果我得到一个新闻或八卦, 这是有趣的数据 会有所帮助 |
| 1751 | my life and moved me forward. | 我的生活,让我前进。 |
| 1752 | If I'd gotten some brief amount of entertainment, whether through video games or magazines or | 如果我得到一些短暂的娱乐, 无论是通过电子游戏或杂志或 |
| 1753 | whatever, that would have been good. | 不管怎么样,那会是好的。 |
| 1754 | Now it's all diseases of abundance. | 今一切诸病具足. |
| 1755 | We are overexposed to everything. | 我们被过度暴露在一切。 |
| 1756 | So the way to survive in modern society is to be an ascetic. | 所以在现代社会中生存的方法就是做一个乙酸. |
| 1757 | It is to retreat from society. | 而是从社会上退缩。 |
| 1758 | There's too much society everywhere you go. | 你去过的地方社会太多了 |
| 1759 | Society in your phone, society in your pocket, society in your ears. | 社会在你的电话, 社会在你的口袋, 社会在你的耳朵。 |
| 1760 | You're being socialized right now by listening to this podcast. | 你现在通过听播客的节目 被社会化了 |
| 1761 | We're socializing you. | 我们在社交 |
| 1762 | We're programming you. | 我们在给你编程 |
| 1763 | Everyone's trying to program everybody. | 每个人都想编程每个人。 |
| 1764 | The only solution is to turn it off. | 唯一的解决办法就是关掉它。 |
| 1765 | The only solution is to turn it off and concentrate on your breathing. | 唯一的解决办法是关机 专心呼吸 |
| 1766 | Meditation. | 深思议. |
| 1767 | Yes. | 对 |
| 1768 | I mean, that's it works. | 我的意思是,这是它的工作。 |
| 1769 | It's been a lifesaver for me. | 这对我来说是个救世主 |
| 1770 | I do it and I do it whenever I get spare time. | 我做它,我做它,每当我有空闲时间。 |
| 1771 | I was at the doctor's office this morning and I knew it was going to be 20 minutes. | 我今早在医生的办公室 我知道要20分钟 |
| 1772 | So I just sat there with my eyes closed for 20 minutes and I meditated. | 于是我闭着眼睛坐在那里20分钟,冥想。 |
| 1773 | When I was growing up, there was this statement, I think it was Pascal. | 当我长大的时候,有这个声明,我想是帕斯卡尔。 |
| 1774 | He said, all of man's problems arise because he cannot sit by himself in a room for 30 | 他说,人的所有问题都出现 因为他不能一个人坐在一个30个房间里 |
| 1775 | minutes alone. | 一分钟。 |
| 1776 | And it's very true. | 且道甚处来. |
| 1777 | I always needed to be stimulated. | 我总是需要刺激。 |
| 1778 | And when the iPhone came along, boredom was dead. | 而当iPhone出现时,无聊死了. |
| 1779 | I would never be bored again. | 我再也不会无聊了 |
| 1780 | If I'm standing in line, I'm on my iPhone. | 如果我排队,我在我的iPhone。 |
| 1781 | And I thought it was great. | 我认为这是伟大的。 |
| 1782 | And when I was a kid, I used to try and overclock my brain. | 当我还是个孩子时,我经常尝试 和超过小时的大脑。 |
| 1783 | Be like, how many thoughts can I think at once? | 喜欢,多少想法 我能一时思考? |
| 1784 | The answer is only one. | 答案只有一个。 |
| 1785 | But I would try to think multiple thoughts at once. | 但我会试着同时思考多种想法。 |
| 1786 | And I was proud of that. | 我为此感到骄傲。 |
| 1787 | I was proud that my brain was always running. | 我为我的大脑总是运行而感到自豪。 |
| 1788 | This engine was always moving. | 这引擎总是在动 |
| 1789 | And it's a disease. | 而为病也. |
| 1790 | It's actually the road to misery. | 这其实是通往苦难的道路. |
| 1791 | And now that I'm older, I realize you actually want to, again, rest your mind. | 现在,我年纪大了, 我知道你真的想, 再次,休息你的思想。 |
| 1792 | You want to learn how to settle into your mind. | 你想学会如何安顿下来 |
| 1793 | Now, I look forward to solitary confinement. | 现在,我期待着单独监禁。 |
| 1794 | You leave me alone for a day. | 你离开我一天。 |
| 1795 | It'll be like the happiest day I've had in a while. | 这将是我过得最快乐的一天 |
| 1796 | And that is a superpower that I think everybody can attain. | 我认为每个人都能达到这个超能力。 |
| 1797 | The superpower of learning to be alone and enjoying it. | 学习独处和享受的超能力. |
| 1798 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1799 | Well, I think it's critical. | 我觉得很关键 |
| 1800 | And I do think that these times where you just think about things, | 我确实认为这些时候 你只是思考一些事情, |
| 1801 | just be alone and think about things are so rare these days. | 只是独自一人,思考 事情是如此罕见 这些天。 |
| 1802 | And I think during those rare times is when you really get to understand | 我觉得在那些罕见的时期 你终于明白 |
| 1803 | what you actually believe or don't believe. | 你真正相信或不相信的东西 |
| 1804 | Yeah, it's funny. | 是啊,这很有趣。 |
| 1805 | When I first started meditating, it was really hard, right? | 当我开始冥想时,真的很难,对吧? |
| 1806 | Because everybody, I think a lot of people who listen to this broadcast, | 因为每个人,我认为很多人 谁听这个广播, |
| 1807 | they've heard of meditation that has a good rep. | 他们听说过有好代表的冥想 |
| 1808 | So everybody tries it. | 所以大家都试试看 |
| 1809 | They struggle. | 他们挣扎。 |
| 1810 | They kind of give it up. | 他们放弃了 |
| 1811 | It's one of those things that everybody says they do, but nobody actually does. | 这是别人说的其中之一, 但实际上没有人这样做。 |
| 1812 | Right? | 对吧? |
| 1813 | It's like not eating sugar, right? | 这就像不吃糖,对不对? |
| 1814 | Everyone talks about how, yeah, I don't eat sugar. | 大家都在说 我不吃糖 |
| 1815 | But like, yeah, then the dessert tray rolls around | 但是,是的,然后甜点盘子滚转 |
| 1816 | and everyone's going for the cookies. | 大家都去吃饼干 |
| 1817 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1818 | Right. | 对 |
| 1819 | So it's become one of those things. | 因此,它成为其中之一。 |
| 1820 | And in fact, it's now even become a signaling thing where it's like, | 事实上,它现在甚至变成了一个信号 的东西,它喜欢, |
| 1821 | oh, how much did you meditate? | 你冥想了多少钱? |
| 1822 | I meditated this much. | 我沉思了这么多。 |
| 1823 | Or, you know, there are people now wearing headbands | 或者,现在有人戴着头巾 |
| 1824 | saying with Tweebirds that chirp and then when they're in deep meditation, | 说与wee鸟鸣, 然后当他们深思, |
| 1825 | I don't know how they make it work, but they'll be like, | 我不知道他们是怎么做到的 但他们会觉得 |
| 1826 | I got a lot of chirps today. | 我今多有鸣声. |
| 1827 | How many chirps did you get? | 你得到了多少个鸣笛? |
| 1828 | Oh, God. | 天呐 |
| 1829 | Oh, your meditation technique is wrong. | 哦,你的冥想技巧是错误的。 |
| 1830 | Mine is right. | 我的是对的。 |
| 1831 | But really, all it is is the art of doing nothing. | 但实际上,它只是无所事事的艺术。 |
| 1832 | And it's important because I think when we grow up, | 这很重要,因为我想 当我们长大了, |
| 1833 | it's all this stuff happening to you in your life. | 这一切发生在你的生活。 |
| 1834 | And some of it, you're processing. | 有些,你正在处理。 |
| 1835 | Some of it, you're absorbing. | 其中一些,你正在吸收。 |
| 1836 | And some of it, you should probably think a little bit more about and work through, | 其中一些,你也许应该多考虑一下 和工作通过, |
| 1837 | but you don't. | 但你没有。 |
| 1838 | You don't have time. | 你没有时间。 |
| 1839 | So it gets buried in you. | 所以它会埋在你体内 |
| 1840 | And it's all these preferences and judgments and unresolved situations and issues. | 这些都是这些偏好和判断 和未解决的情况和问题。 |
| 1841 | And it's like your email inbox. | 就像你的邮件收件箱 |
| 1842 | It's just piling up email after email after email. | 它只是堆积邮件 电子邮件之后的电子邮件。 |
| 1843 | It's not answered going back 10, 20, 30, 40 years. | 未答前十,二十,三十,四十年. |
| 1844 | And then when you sit down to meditate, | 然后当你坐下来冥想时 |
| 1845 | those emails start coming back at you. | 那些邮件开始回你。 |
| 1846 | Hey, what about this issue? | 嘿,这个问题呢? |
| 1847 | What about that issue? | 那问题呢? |
| 1848 | Have you solved this? | 你解决了吗? |
| 1849 | Do you think about that? | 你觉得呢? |
| 1850 | Do you have regrets there? | 你有后悔吗? |
| 1851 | Do you have issues there? | 你有问题吗? |
| 1852 | And that gets scary. | 这变得可怕。 |
| 1853 | People don't want to do that. | 众生不欲. |
| 1854 | It's like, it's not working. | 谓如是无功用. |
| 1855 | I can't clear my mind. | 无法清净智. |
| 1856 | I better get up and not do this. | 我最好起来别这样 |
| 1857 | But really what's happening is it's self-therapy. | 但事实上,这是自我治疗。 |
| 1858 | It's just that instead of paying a therapist to sit there and listen to you, | 只是不是付钱给治疗师坐在那里听你的 |
| 1859 | you're listening to yourself. | 你在听自己的话 |
| 1860 | And you just have to sit there as those emails go through one by one. | 你只需要坐在那里 当那些邮件逐个通过。 |
| 1861 | You work through each of them until you get to the magical inbox zero. | 你通过每个工作 直到你得到神奇的收件箱0。 |
| 1862 | And there comes a day when you sit down, | 有一天你坐下来 |
| 1863 | you realize the only things you're thinking about are things that happened yesterday | 你知道你唯一在想的事情 就是昨天发生的事 |
| 1864 | because you've processed everything else. | 因为你已经处理了其他一切 |
| 1865 | Not necessarily even resolved it, but at least listen to yourself. | 甚至不一定能解决,但至少要听听你自己的意见. |
| 1866 | And that's when meditation starts. | 这就是冥想开始的时候。 |
| 1867 | And I think it's a very powerful thing that everybody should experience. | 我认为这是一件非常强大的事情, 每个人都应该体验。 |
| 1868 | And that's when you arrive upon the art of doing nothing. | 这时你来到了无所事事的艺术。 |
| 1869 | Well, I think it's even a problem that most people are getting their meditation from an app. | 我认为,这甚至是一个问题,大多数人 得到他们的冥想 从应用程序。 |
| 1870 | I will not use an app. | 我不会使用应用程序。 |
| 1871 | It's sneaky. | 阴阳之气. |
| 1872 | Sam Harris是个很好的冥想应用 | |
| 1873 | I should say that. | 我应该说。 |
| 1874 | But you should be able to just do it. | 但你应该能做到这一点。 |
| 1875 | And many people can't. | 许多人都做不到 |
| 1876 | It is literally the art of doing nothing. | 这其实是无所事事的艺术。 |
| 1877 | All you need to do for meditation is just sit down, close your eyes, | 你只要坐下 闭上眼睛 |
| 1878 | comfortable position, whatever happens, happens. | 舒适的位置,无论发生什么,都会发生。 |
| 1879 | If you think, you think. | 如果你认为,你认为。 |
| 1880 | If you don't think, you don't think. | 若不思议不思议. |
| 1881 | Don't put effort into it. | 别费劲了 |
| 1882 | Don't put effort against it. | 别费劲了 |
| 1883 | All you need. | 所有你需要的东西。 |
| 1884 | Do you concentrate on your breath or do you have a specific technique? | 你专心于呼吸还是有特定的技巧? |
| 1885 | Nothing, nothing. | 没什么 没什么 |
| 1886 | No, you just sit. | 不,你只是坐着。 |
| 1887 | You just sit. | 你只是坐着。 |
| 1888 | I think about my breath. | 我想着我的呼吸。 |
| 1889 | That's all I do. | 这就是我要做的。 |
| 1890 | I just try to only concentrate on breathing. | 我只是试着只专注于呼吸。 |
| 1891 | I used to do that. | 我曾经这样做。 |
| 1892 | But at some level, all the concentration, | 但在某些层面,所有的集中, |
| 1893 | every meditation technique is leading you to the same thing, | 每一个冥想技巧都引导你找到同样的东西, |
| 1894 | which is just witnessing. | 它只是见证。 |
| 1895 | And concentration is a technique to still your mind enough | 集中精神是保持你头脑的技巧 |
| 1896 | that you can then drop the object of concentration. | 然后可以将集中对象放下。 |
| 1897 | So you could also just try going straight to the end game. | 所以,你也可以试试直接到最后的比赛。 |
| 1898 | The problem with what I'm talking about, | 我所说的问题, |
| 1899 | which is not focusing on your breath, | 它不专注于你的呼吸, |
| 1900 | is you will have to listen to your mind for a long time. | 你将不得不倾听你的思想 长时间。 |
| 1901 | It's not going to work unless you do at least an hour a day | 除非你每天至少做一个小时 否则是行不通的 |
| 1902 | and preferably at least 60 days before you kind of work through a lot of issues. | 最好在工作前至少60天 解决许多问题 |
| 1903 | So it'll be hell for a while. | 故一时地狱. |
| 1904 | But when you come out the other side, it's great. | 但是当你从另一边出来的时候,这是伟大的。 |
| 1905 | You get rid of the chatter. | 你摆脱了闲聊。 |
| 1906 | 或说 chatter声来时,在后. | |
| 1907 | It's dimmer. | 阴沉. |
| 1908 | It's smaller. | 其体较细. |
| 1909 | You've heard it before. | 汝今闻已. |
| 1910 | You see the patterns. | 你看到规律了 |
| 1911 | It's more recent. | 较近. |
| 1912 | It's something you need to resolve anyway. | 这是你需要解决的问题。 |
| 1913 | And you will get moments of actual silence. | 你会得到真正沉默的时刻。 |
| 1914 | What's your ultimate state when you meditate? | 你冥想时的状态如何? |
| 1915 | Is there a state where you've achieved rarely, if ever, | 是否有一个州 你很少实现,如果曾经, |
| 1916 | where you're in bliss or you're in harmony or you're in enlightenment? | 在幸福中或在和谐中或在启蒙中? |
| 1917 | It's kind of indescribable | 有点难以形容 |
| 1918 | because when you're really meditating, you're not there. | 因为当你真的冥想的时候,你并不在那里。 |
| 1919 | When there's no thoughts, there's no experience or there's nothing. | 当无思惟无有经验或无所着. |
| 1920 | There's just nothing. | 什么都没有 |
| 1921 | So it's hard to describe. | 所以很难形容 |
| 1922 | But I would say that every psychedelic state | 但我会说,每一个精神状态 |
| 1923 | that people encounter using so-called plant medicines | 人们使用所谓的植物药物 |
| 1924 | can be arrived at just through pure meditation. | 只能通过纯粹的冥想得到。 |
| 1925 | And I've definitely hit some of those states. | 我肯定撞到了其中一些州 |
| 1926 | You've hit some transcendent psychedelic states | 你撞到了一些超凡的迷幻状态 |
| 1927 | where you're hallucinating the whole deal. | 在那里你正在幻觉 整个交易。 |
| 1928 | I've had trippy visuals. | 我有过令人毛骨悚然的视觉 |
| 1929 | I've had the kind of the lights and colors. | 我有那种灯光和颜色。 |
| 1930 | I've had the so-called downloads. | 我有过所谓的下载。 |
| 1931 | I've had the realizations. | 我已经意识到了 |
| 1932 | I've had the bliss. | 我受够了 |
| 1933 | I've had the light. | 我有灯光。 |
| 1934 | I've had the colors. | 我有颜色。 |
| 1935 | But not every time. | 但不是每次都这样 |
| 1936 | No, it's rarely. | 不,这是很少的。 |
| 1937 | And in fact, I would say that's also like an experience | 事实上,我也会说,这就像一次经验 |
| 1938 | that you can start craving, | 你可以开始渴望, |
| 1939 | which will then actually take you out of meditation. | 它将使你从冥想中消失。 |
| 1940 | Where you really, and I'm not enlightened or anything close to it, | 在那里,你真正的, 而我不开明 或任何接近它, |
| 1941 | so not even the ballpark, but my own experience, | 所以连球场都不行 但我自己的经验 |
| 1942 | and this is just personal experience, | 这只是个人经历, |
| 1943 | is the place where I end up the most, | 是这里,我结束的最, |
| 1944 | that is really the one that I want to be at is peace. | 这正是我想要的 是和平。 |
| 1945 | It's just peace. | 唯是安乐. |
| 1946 | Peace. | 安静 |
| 1947 | Happy. | 快乐 |
| 1948 | Yeah, to me, peace is happiness at rest, | 对,对我来说,和平就是快乐 |
| 1949 | and happiness is kind of peace in motion. | 幸福是运动中的一种和平。 |
| 1950 | You can convert peace to happiness anytime you want, | 你可以随时把和平变成幸福 |
| 1951 | but peace is what you want most of the time. | 但你大部分时间想要的是和平 |
| 1952 | That's interesting. | 这很有趣。 |
| 1953 | You can convert peace to happiness anytime you want. | 你可以随时将和平转化为幸福 |
| 1954 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1955 | If you're a peaceful person, | 如果你是一个和平的人, |
| 1956 | anything you do will be a happy activity. | 你做的任何事都会是一件愉快的事 |
| 1957 | And by the way, being on social media, | 顺便说一句,在社交媒体上, |
| 1958 | engaging politics will not bring you peace. | 参政不会给你带来和平 |
| 1959 | There is nothing less peaceful. | 没有比和平更和平的了。 |
| 1960 | Right. | 对 |
| 1961 | And in today's day and age? | 在今天的岁月里呢? |
| 1962 | The way we think you get peace | 我们认为你得到和平的方式 |
| 1963 | is by resolving all your external problems, | 解决你所有外部问题 |
| 1964 | but there's unlimited external problems. | 但有无限的外部问题。 |
| 1965 | So the only way to actually get peace is on the inside | 所以真正获得和平的唯一方法 就是在内部 |
| 1966 | by giving up this idea of problems. | 放弃这种问题的想法。 |
| 1967 | Who thinks you can get peace | 谁觉得你能得到和平 |
| 1968 | by resolving external problems other than politicians? | 解决政客以外的外部问题? |
| 1969 | Everybody. | 每个人。 |
| 1970 | That's what everybody's struggling to do, right? | 大家都在挣扎着呢,对吧? |
| 1971 | Why are you trying to make money to solve all your money problems? | 你为什么想赚钱来解决你所有的钱问题? |
| 1972 | Why are you trying to win at politics? | 你为什么要在政治上赢? |
| 1973 | Because then you'll be at peace | 因为那样你就会安息了 |
| 1974 | because your people will have won. | 因为你的人会赢的 |
| 1975 | It's a daunting task to get your shit together. | 收拾你的烂摊子是件艰巨的任务 |
| 1976 | It's easier to change yourself than to change the world. | 变化自己比改变世界容易. |
| 1977 | That's true. | 没错 |
| 1978 | And the best way to change the world is to change yourself. | 而改变世界的最好方法是改变自己. |
| 1979 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 1980 | All these people who are shouting on social media, | 所有在社交媒体上大喊大叫的人 |
| 1981 | the best way is just to actually live the life | 最好的办法就是过上真正的生活 |
| 1982 | that you want other people to live. | 你想让别人活着 |
| 1983 | Like I went out in New Zealand, | 就像我在新西兰一样 |
| 1984 | and there's this guy that I met with, | 有个我见过的人 |
| 1985 | everyone's on social media | 每个人都在社交媒体上 |
| 1986 | shouting about environmentalism and conservative and sustained. | 高喊环境主义和保守与持续。 |
| 1987 | And I go to this guy's house, | 我去这家伙的家, |
| 1988 | and he was doing a very quietly, very gently, | 他做了一个非常安静,非常温柔, |
| 1989 | he was doing a two week long zero waste experiment | 他做了一个为期两周的零浪费实验 |
| 1990 | where he was throwing out nothing. | 在那里,他没有扔任何东西。 |
| 1991 | So every package that he opened he would keep | 所以他打开的每一个包裹都会保存 |
| 1992 | and he would like clean it up. | 他想把它清理干净 |
| 1993 | So he would keep his Amazon boxes, | 所以他留着他的亚马逊盒子, |
| 1994 | he would keep the little containers, | 他会保存小容器, |
| 1995 | even a tea bag. | 甚至一个茶袋。 |
| 1996 | If you open the tea bag, | 如果你打开茶袋 |
| 1997 | he has to figure out how to compost the tea inside, | 他必须想办法把茶放在里面 |
| 1998 | how to make the tea itself useful, | 如何让茶本身有用, |
| 1999 | how to make the tea bag like a little storage item. | 如何使茶袋 像一个小存储项目。 |
| 2000 | So there was no trash. | 所以没有垃圾 |
| 2001 | He was literally living with zero trash waste. | 他活在零垃圾堆里 |
| 2002 | And he was doing it. | 而他这样做。 |
| 2003 | And it was really inspirational. | 这非常鼓舞人心。 |
| 2004 | Meeting people like him made me far more environmentally conscious | 遇见他这样的人 让我更有环保意识 |
| 2005 | than any amount of people yelling at me on social media ever will. | 比在社交媒体上大喊大叫的人还多 |
| 2006 | How long did he do that for? | 他这样做多久了? |
| 2007 | I think it was two weeks. | 我想是两周了 |
| 2008 | It was hard. | 这很难。 |
| 2009 | What the fuck are you going to do with tea bags? | 你他妈的拿茶袋干什么? |
| 2010 | He had quite the collection. | 他收藏了很多东西 |
| 2011 | He was filling them with little things. | 他给他们装了些小东西 |
| 2012 | He sounds like a crazy hoarder, | 他听起来像一个疯狂的囤积者, |
| 2013 | like a hoarder person with stacks of tea bags in his house. | 就像一个囤积者 他家有一堆茶袋 |
| 2014 | A very impressive guy. | 一个令人印象深刻的家伙。 |
| 2015 | Yeah, that's a strange way to go about things. | 是啊,这是一个奇怪的方法 关于事情。 |
| 2016 | I appreciate it though. | 但我还是很感激 |
| 2017 | I mean, look, it is entirely possible to somehow or another | 我的意思是,你看,这是完全可能的 以某种方式或另一种 |
| 2018 | engineer all of our cups and all of our things | 制造我们所有的杯子和东西 |
| 2019 | and all of our, to be biodegradable. | 以及我们所有的人 都能被生物降解 |
| 2020 | You know, the struggle with the modern environmental movement | 你知道,与现代环境运动的斗争 |
| 2021 | is that they identify the correct problem, | 是他们找出了正确的问题, |
| 2022 | which is finite Earth spaceship, | 这是有限的地球飞船, |
| 2023 | or this is all we got, don't ruin it. | 否则我们就只有这些了 别毁了它 |
| 2024 | But they don't have the solution. | 但他们没有办法 |
| 2025 | So what they say is no growth, no growth, no growth. | 故所言无增长无增长无增长无增长. |
| 2026 | The problem is you got three billion Indian and Chinese | 问题是你有30亿印度人和中国人 |
| 2027 | who aren't going to stay in poverty. | 他们不会陷入贫困 |
| 2028 | They're going to grow whether you like it or not. | 无论你喜欢与否 他们都会长大的 |
| 2029 | So you can yell at them. | 这样你就可以大喊大叫了 |
| 2030 | You can scream at them. | 你可以叫他们。 |
| 2031 | You can yell at us and scream at us, | 你可以对我们大吼大叫 |
| 2032 | but that's not going to happen. | 但这是不可能的。 |
| 2033 | So the only way out, unfortunately, | 所以,唯一的出路, 不幸的是, |
| 2034 | is again through technology, | 又是通过技术, |
| 2035 | which is you have to build green technology. | 这是你必须建设绿色技术。 |
| 2036 | And I give Musk a lot of credit for being one of the few people | 我给穆斯克很多的功劳 作为少数的人之一 |
| 2037 | who's out there trying to do that. | 谁在那里试图做到这一点。 |
| 2038 | So you build things that are biodegradable and good for you | 所以,你建造的东西 生物可降解 并且对你有好处 |
| 2039 | and healthier, and everybody wants to be healthier. | 更健康 每个人都想更健康 |
| 2040 | Chinese want to be healthier. | 中国人希望健康. |
| 2041 | Indians want to be healthier. | 印地安人希望更健康. |
| 2042 | They want to be cleaner. | 他们想更干净 |
| 2043 | If you say, I can clean up your rivers. | 如果你说,我可以清理你的河流。 |
| 2044 | I can clean up your forests. | 我可以帮你清理森林 |
| 2045 | I can have your children not get sick with cholera | 我可以让你的孩子不染霍乱 |
| 2046 | and diphtheria and typhoid. | 白喉和伤寒。 |
| 2047 | I can cure your diseases. | 我可以治疗你的疾病。 |
| 2048 | I can help make your immune system stronger. | 我可以帮你增强免疫系统 |
| 2049 | I can give you clean drinking water. | 我可以给你干净的饮用水。 |
| 2050 | Like that is what causes people to become environmentalists, | 就像这导致人们成为环保主义者, |
| 2051 | not shouting and screaming at them that they shouldn't grow | 不要大喊大叫,叫他们不要长大 |
| 2052 | and they should stop pumping things into the sky. | 他们应该停止把东西 注入天空。 |
| 2053 | And they have no concept of that. | 他们没有这个概念。 |
| 2054 | They're trying to get out of poverty. | 欲脱贫苦. |
| 2055 | So I think the modern environmental movement | 所以我认为现代环境运动 |
| 2056 | identifies the correct problem, but then doesn't come up | 找出正确的问题,但不会出现 |
| 2057 | with the right set of solutions that are appealing to people. | 拥有对人们有吸引力的一套正确的解决方案。 |
| 2058 | People are not going to give up economic growth. | 人们不会放弃经济增长。 |
| 2059 | They're going to have to get rich first. | 他们得先发财 |
| 2060 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2061 | That's a very good point. | 说得好 |
| 2062 | But how do you do both? | 但你们俩都怎么样? |
| 2063 | You lower the price of clean technologies massively. | 你大大降低了清洁技术的价格。 |
| 2064 | So you basically make clean technologies cost-competitive. | 所以你基本上使清洁技术 成本竞争。 |
| 2065 | Through subsidies? | 通过补贴? |
| 2066 | Innovation, ideally, you can subsidize in the short | 创新,理想的,你可以 补贴在短 |
| 2067 | to medium term until the innovation curve is crossed. | 直至跨越创新曲线。 |
| 2068 | I mean, like Tesla doesn't have any patents, right? | 我的意思是,像特斯拉没有任何专利,对不对? |
| 2069 | Or they freely give away their patents. | 或者他们自由放弃他们的专利。 |
| 2070 | That's the example of how you can do it. | 以此为例而能成就. |
| 2071 | So if you want to get rid of plastic straws, | 所以,如果你想摆脱塑料吸管, |
| 2072 | yeah, you can do it here and there. | 是的,你可以在这里和那里做。 |
| 2073 | You can get San Francisco to ban plastic straws, | 你可以让旧金山禁止塑料吸管, |
| 2074 | but China's not going to ban plastic straws. | 但中国不会禁止塑料吸管 |
| 2075 | Not until you build a paper straw that is same cost, | 直到你造出同样成本的纸秸 |
| 2076 | good durability, and then you educate Chinese like, | 耐久性好 然后你就教中国人 |
| 2077 | hey, this is petroleum. | 嘿 这是石油 |
| 2078 | This plastic that you're drinking is petroleum. | 你喝的塑料是石油 |
| 2079 | This is bad for you. | 这对你不好 |
| 2080 | Here's the chemical composition. | 化学成分如下. |
| 2081 | Here's the things that are going in your bloodstream. | 这就是你血液中的东西 |
| 2082 | And they want healthy, happy kids also. | 他们也想要健康快乐的孩子 |
| 2083 | So they're going to have their kids use paper straws. | 所以他们要让孩子用纸吸管. |
| 2084 | Maybe straws aren't the best example, | 也许稻草不是最好的例子 |
| 2085 | but this is true with fossil fuels, for example. | 但矿物燃料就是如此。 |
| 2086 | That's probably the best one. | 这可能是最好的一个。 |
| 2087 | Or replacing a lot of plastics with glass and paper and so on. | 或用玻璃和纸张等替代大量塑料. |
| 2088 | Yeah, there's a new technology that was just... | 是的,有一个新技术 只是... |
| 2089 | On to Patrick, I don't know, on Twitter today, | 关于帕特里克,我不知道, 在今天的推特上, |
| 2090 | about they're able to convert plastic waste into fuel | 他们能把塑料废料转化为燃料 |
| 2091 | and that there's companies that are actively trying to do that now. | 现在有公司正积极尝试这么做 |
| 2092 | So then in that way, plastic waste will become valuable. | 这样一来,塑料废物就会变得很宝贵。 |
| 2093 | It'll become a commodity. | 它会成为商品 |
| 2094 | It'll become something that people resource. | 它会成为人们的资源。 |
| 2095 | Now, there's certain problems this doesn't solve. | 现在,有一些问题不能解决。 |
| 2096 | This doesn't solve carbon. | 这解决不了碳 |
| 2097 | This doesn't solve deforestation. | 这解决不了毁林问题。 |
| 2098 | So there, you kind of have to step in with other means. | 在那里,你不得不 介入其他方式。 |
| 2099 | So for example, you look at the Amazon, right? | 比如说,你看亚马逊河,对吗? |
| 2100 | Everyone's complaining about the Amazon being deforested. | 每个人都抱怨亚马逊森林被砍伐. |
| 2101 | Well, you're not the poor Brazilian farmer, right? | 你不是那个可怜的巴西农民吧? |
| 2102 | So you're sitting here in your comfortable chair, | 所以你坐在舒适的椅子上 |
| 2103 | like social media hammering away at the evil Brazilians | 像社交媒体 敲打邪恶的巴西人 |
| 2104 | for deforesting the Amazon. | 为亚马逊森林。 |
| 2105 | But the Amazon has incredible resources. | 但亚马逊拥有惊人的资源. |
| 2106 | If we really care about it, | 如果我们真的关心它, |
| 2107 | we should turn it into an incredible tourist park | 我们应该把它变成一个令人难以置信的旅游公园 |
| 2108 | and put your money where your mouth is, | 把钱放在嘴边 |
| 2109 | start doing ecotourism in the Amazon, start paying for it. | 开始在亚马逊进行生态旅游,开始为此付出代价. |
| 2110 | And then maybe take the future rights for all the pharmaceuticals | 然后也许把未来的权利 对于所有的药品 |
| 2111 | that are going to come out of all the incredible plants there | 这些植物将会从那里涌出 |
| 2112 | and start selling those off | 开始卖掉 |
| 2113 | so that people, so that maybe give the pharmaceutical companies | 所以,人们, 这样也许给制药公司 |
| 2114 | an incentive to preserve the biodiversity of the Amazon. | 保护亚马逊生物多样性的鼓励措施。 |
| 2115 | Say, hey, if you buy this patch of the Amazon, | 嘿,如果你买下这片亚马逊 |
| 2116 | you conserve it and you conserve it. | 你保护它,你保护它。 |
| 2117 | Whatever plant medicines that come out of there | 不管植物药从那里出来 |
| 2118 | that you can then license, | 以便你们许可, |
| 2119 | you get the patent for 20 years or 30 years or whatever. | 20年或30年的专利 |
| 2120 | So I think there are solutions where we, | 所以,我认为有解决方案 我们, |
| 2121 | as the first-worlders who have money, | 以先世为有钱人, |
| 2122 | can put our money where our mouth is | 把钱放在嘴边 |
| 2123 | and go and rescue these kinds of properties. | 去拯救这些财产 |
| 2124 | That's a very interesting solution, | 这是一个非常有趣的解决方案, |
| 2125 | but I could see immediate pushback from people | 但我能看见人们立即回击 |
| 2126 | that don't think the pharmaceutical company | 不认为制药公司 |
| 2127 | should have the rights to this natural plant. | 应拥有对天然植物的权利。 |
| 2128 | Okay, or the government does it, | 好吧,或者政府这样做, |
| 2129 | and then the government gets the patents | 然后政府得到专利 |
| 2130 | and the government will auction off the patents later. | 政府稍后会拍卖专利 |
| 2131 | That's even worse. | 这更糟糕。 |
| 2132 | Or they'll license them or whatever it is, right? | 或者他们会给他们发执照,或者什么的,对不对? |
| 2133 | Well, often, like just this, | 经常是这样 |
| 2134 | often the problem is there is no really good solution. | 问题常常是,没有真正好的解决方法。 |
| 2135 | There's a bunch of solutions that also have drawbacks. | 有很多解决方案也有缺点。 |
| 2136 | That's life. | 这就是生活。 |
| 2137 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2138 | Right? | 对吧? |
| 2139 | That's a trade-off. | 这是取舍。 |
| 2140 | As being a human, it's very messy. | 作为一个人类,它非常混乱。 |
| 2141 | Yeah, it's a constrained environment. | 是啊,这是一个限制环境。 |
| 2142 | Obviously, I skew more towards a private property, | 显然我更喜欢私人财产 |
| 2143 | capitalist-type solutions, | 资本主义的解决方案, |
| 2144 | because even though they're not perfect, | 因为即使它们不完美, |
| 2145 | they have been proven to actually work, right? | 他们被证明是有效的,对吧? |
| 2146 | Once something is your property, you take care of it, right? | 一旦有东西是你的财产, 你来处理它,对不对? |
| 2147 | You're not going to crap all over your own house. | 你不会在自己的房子里胡说八道的 |
| 2148 | But it should probably be temporary property, | 但它可能是临时财产, |
| 2149 | not permanent property. | 不是永久财产。 |
| 2150 | You see a lot of countries around the world | 你可以看到世界上许多国家 |
| 2151 | now doing this no foreign ownership of land thing, for example. | 例如,现在没有外国土地所有权。 |
| 2152 | Or Mexico has no private ownership of beaches, right? | 或墨西哥没有私人拥有的海滩,对不对? |
| 2153 | So you can draw the line at certain points. | 这样你就可以在某些点上划线. |
| 2154 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2155 | Do you enjoy doing this kind of thing | 你喜欢做这种事情吗? |
| 2156 | where you break things down | 在那里你打破的东西 |
| 2157 | and give your perspective on things | 并表达你对事物的看法 |
| 2158 | and try to illuminate certain complex objects? | 并尝试点亮某些复杂的物体? |
| 2159 | I'm not trying to illuminate so much as, | 我不是想照亮这么多, |
| 2160 | you know, talking to you, I learn as much as I say. | 你知道,跟你说话, 我学的就像我说的一样多。 |
| 2161 | And I learn it for myself | 我自己学的 |
| 2162 | because I'm being forced to articulate it, right? | 因为我被迫说清楚,对不对? |
| 2163 | I can sit around and think my thoughts all day long. | 我可以整天坐着想着我的想法 |
| 2164 | But a lot of it's going to be nonsense. | 但其中很多会是胡说八道. |
| 2165 | Because there are gaps in thinking where you make leaps | 因为在你跳跃的地方 思想上有些差距 |
| 2166 | because you're kind to yourself | 因为你对自己好 |
| 2167 | that you don't realize you're making. | 你没意识到你在做。 |
| 2168 | But when you're forced to write it down, | 但是当你被迫写下来时 |
| 2169 | and this is why I tweet, | 这就是为什么我推特, |
| 2170 | or when you have to talk to somebody, | 或者当你必须和某人交谈时 |
| 2171 | you have to complete those gaps | 您必须填补这些空白 |
| 2172 | and make it a proper logical chain. | 并把它变成一个适当的逻辑链。 |
| 2173 | And the mistake that I made when I was young was, | 我年轻时犯的错误是 |
| 2174 | you know, I always wanted to seem like | 你知道,我一直想 看起来像 |
| 2175 | the smartest kid in the room. | 房间里最聪明的孩子 |
| 2176 | You know, just like you probably want to seem | 你知道,就像你可能想看起来 |
| 2177 | like the funniest kid in the room | 像最有趣的孩子在房间里 |
| 2178 | or the toughest kid in the room, right? | 还是房间里最硬的小孩? |
| 2179 | We're all losers starting out. | 我们都是失败者开始。 |
| 2180 | We want to be winners. | 我们想成为赢家。 |
| 2181 | We pick the thing we're good at and we double down on it. | 我们选我们擅长的东西 并且我们加倍。 |
| 2182 | So I was one of the smartest kids in the room. | 所以我是房间里最聪明的孩子之一。 |
| 2183 | So what did I do? | 我做了什麽? |
| 2184 | I read a lot of books. | 我读了很多书。 |
| 2185 | I memorized a lot of things. | 我记了很多事 |
| 2186 | And then whatever I hadn't memorized is pre-Google. | 我之前没有记住的是Google预告 |
| 2187 | I made it up. | 我编的 |
| 2188 | So it sounded good. | 听起来不错 |
| 2189 | Pre-Google. | 预古格勒. |
| 2190 | After Google fact checking started | 在谷歌进行事实检查之后 |
| 2191 | and I had to get better, right? | 我不得不好起来,对不对? |
| 2192 | So Google improved me that way. | 所以谷歌这样改进了我。 |
| 2193 | Yeah, a lot of people. | 对,很多人 |
| 2194 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 2195 | So now what I realized | 所以现在我意识到 |
| 2196 | is that the biggest mistake was memorization, right? | 最大的错误是失忆,对吧? |
| 2197 | Because when you're actually trying to live your life | 因为当你真正想过自己的生活 |
| 2198 | in congruence with reality, | 与真实相符合, |
| 2199 | you want to have a deep understanding | 你想有一个深刻的理解 |
| 2200 | of what you do and why you do it. | 你做什么和为什么这样做。 |
| 2201 | And so it's much more important | 所以这更重要 |
| 2202 | to know the basics really well | 深知基本知识 |
| 2203 | than just to know the advanced. | 不只是知道先进者。 |
| 2204 | Knowing calculus wouldn't help you today. | 懂微积分今天对你有帮助 |
| 2205 | It doesn't help you in business. | 这对生意没有帮助 |
| 2206 | Doesn't help you in most things. | 在大多数事情上都帮不了你 |
| 2207 | But knowing arithmetic really well | 但是,知道算术 真的很好 |
| 2208 | will help you really, | 会帮助你真正的, |
| 2209 | whether it's at the corner grocery store | 无论是在角落杂货店 |
| 2210 | counting change to figuring out | 数到数到数 |
| 2211 | the value of your podcast business | 您播客业务的价值 |
| 2212 | to figuring out how to do the probability math | 如何计算概率 |
| 2213 | on some action that you want to take. | 关于一些您想要采取的行动。 |
| 2214 | So understanding basic mathematics cold | 所以理解基本的数学冷 |
| 2215 | is way more important | 更为重要 |
| 2216 | than memorizing calculus concepts. | 比记忆微积分的概念。 |
| 2217 | And the problem is, | 问题是, |
| 2218 | and this is true of I think all reasoning, | 我认为所有的推理都是如此 |
| 2219 | it's much better to know the basics | 了解基本情况要好得多 |
| 2220 | from the ground up, | 从地面上, |
| 2221 | solid foundation of understanding, | 理解的坚实基础, |
| 2222 | a steel frame of understanding | 钢框架的理解 |
| 2223 | than it is to just have a scaffolding | 不只是有脚手架 |
| 2224 | where you're just memorizing advanced concepts. | 在那里你只是回忆 先进的概念。 |
| 2225 | This is why there are a lot of people | 这就是为什么有很多人 |
| 2226 | I'm sure that you listen to | 我相信你会听 |
| 2227 | who are really smart. | 他们真的很聪明。 |
| 2228 | They use a lot of jargon | 他们用了很多术语 |
| 2229 | and you can't quite follow their reasoning. | 你无法完全遵循他们的推理。 |
| 2230 | You don't know how they're putting things together | 你不知道他们是怎么拼凑起来的 |
| 2231 | and you have this deep down suspicion | 而你却深陷其中 |
| 2232 | they don't even really understand, right? | 他们甚至不真正理解,对不对? |
| 2233 | So if you look at the most powerful thinkers, | 所以,如果你看 最强大的思想家, |
| 2234 | especially the ones where money or life is on the line, | 特别是那些钱或生命在线上的人 |
| 2235 | they have to understand the basics really, really well. | 他们必须了解基本情况 真的,真的很好。 |
| 2236 | 著名物理学家理查德·费曼(Richard Feynman)得以, | |
| 2237 | he had this piece in one of his lectures | 他的演讲中有一段 |
| 2238 | where he takes you from counting numbers on your hand | 在那里,他带你 从计算数字在你的手上 |
| 2239 | all the way to calculus in four pages of text, | 一直到微积分 在四页的文本, |
| 2240 | orally, but written down as four pages of text. | 口头上,但写成4页的文字。 |
| 2241 | And it's a complete unbroken logical chain | 它是一个完整的逻辑链 |
| 2242 | that takes you through geometry, trigonometry, | 这让你通过几何,三角, |
| 2243 | pre-calculus, analytic geometry, graphs, everything, | 预算,分析几何,图表,一切, |
| 2244 | all the way to calculus. | 一直到微积分。 |
| 2245 | He understood numbers at a core level. | 他在核心层面理解数字。 |
| 2246 | He didn't have to memorize anything. | 他什么都不用记住 |
| 2247 | When you're memorizing, | 当你在回忆, |
| 2248 | it's an indication that you don't understand. | 这说明你不明白 |
| 2249 | You should be able to re-derive anything on the spot. | 你应该能重新发现现场的一切 |
| 2250 | And if you can't, you don't know it. | 且若不能,则不知也. |
| 2251 | So do you apply that to things other than mathematics? | 所以,你应用了 数学以外的东西? |
| 2252 | You apply that to everything. | 你把它应用到一切。 |
| 2253 | Everything, yeah. | 一切,对。 |
| 2254 | You don't even make attempt to memorize things. | 你甚至不尝试 记住的东西。 |
| 2255 | Just make attempt to understand them. | 试着理解他们 |
| 2256 | You can't help but memorize things. | 不可不记. |
| 2257 | But if you can't, and this is where Twitter is great for me, | 但是如果你做不到,这就是Twitter对我很好的地方, |
| 2258 | is I try to understand something, | 我试着理解一些事情 |
| 2259 | and then I try to write it down in such a way | 我试着用这样的方式写下来 |
| 2260 | that I can remember it. | 我可以记住它。 |
| 2261 | Just the basic hook that'll point towards | 只是基本 钩将指向 |
| 2262 | the deeper understanding, | 更深入的了解, |
| 2263 | and I'm forced to explain it to people. | 我不得不向人们解释 |
| 2264 | And that's how I know I understand something. | 所以我才知道我懂点什么 |
| 2265 | So this is what I meant originally. | 这就是我最初的意思 |
| 2266 | We talked about reading a good book. | 我们讨论过看一本好书 |
| 2267 | I'll read one page in a night, | 我每晚看一页 |
| 2268 | and then I spend the rest of the night thinking about it. | 然后,我花了其余的夜晚 想着它。 |
| 2269 | Or I'm chasing down references on Wikipedia | 或者我在追查维基百科的参考文献 |
| 2270 | or weird blog posts trying to understand it. | 或奇怪的博客文章试图理解它。 |
| 2271 | You know, so for example, | 比如说 |
| 2272 | there was a, I was dealing with, | 有,我正在处理, |
| 2273 | this is a few months back, | 这是几个月前, |
| 2274 | I was dealing with a question of stupid topic, | 我正在处理一个愚蠢的话题, |
| 2275 | but the meaning of life, right? | 但生命的意义,对不对? |
| 2276 | What's the meaning? | 何谓. |
| 2277 | How could that be stupid, though? | 这怎么可能是愚蠢的,虽然? |
| 2278 | Well, it's trite. | 这太老套了 |
| 2279 | It's trite. | 这是老式的。 |
| 2280 | You're not supposed to think about it. | 汝不应思惟. |
| 2281 | It's something you ask your parents when you're young. | 少年时问父母事. |
| 2282 | They tell you, don't worry about it. | 他们告诉你,不用担心。 |
| 2283 | Or they say, go get a job, hippie. | 或者他们说 去找份工作 嬉皮士 |
| 2284 | Yeah, exactly. | 没错 |
| 2285 | Go get a job, you freaking hippie. | 去找份工作,你这该死的嬉皮士 |
| 2286 | Or here's God. | 或见此神. |
| 2287 | God is the meaning of life, right? | 上帝是生命的意义,对不对? |
| 2288 | And so I was just trying to resolve for myself, | 所以我想自己决定 |
| 2289 | like, what could the answer be, right? | 答案会是什么呢? |
| 2290 | Not what is the answer, but what could the answer be? | 不是答案是什么 而是答案是什么? |
| 2291 | And so at a core level, | 因此,在核心层面, |
| 2292 | I was forced to kind of hunt down | 我被迫追杀 |
| 2293 | all these weird little things | 这些古怪的小东西 |
| 2294 | and really understand for myself. | 并真正为我自己理解。 |
| 2295 | And it's got to be personal, right? | 它必须是个人的,对不对? |
| 2296 | But I have to establish for myself | 但我必须为自己建立 |
| 2297 | what it could and could not be. | 它能够和不可能是什么。 |
| 2298 | And that gave me some level of peace. | 这给了我某种程度的和平。 |
| 2299 | So now I don't have to keep asking that question. | 所以现在我不用再问这个问题了 |
| 2300 | What is the meaning of life? | 生命的意义是什么? |
| 2301 | I mean, I think the question | 我的意思是,我觉得问题 |
| 2302 | is more interesting than the answer. | 比答案更有趣 |
| 2303 | Everyone should explore this on their own. | 每个人都应该自己去探索 |
| 2304 | But let me just explore a few parts with you, right? | 但是,让我只是探索 几个部分与你,对不对? |
| 2305 | So first is, if I gave you an answer, | 所以首先 如果我给你一个答案 |
| 2306 | if I said the meaning of life is to please God, | 如果我说生命的意义 是取悦上帝, |
| 2307 | well, which God? | 哪个上帝? |
| 2308 | Okay, Judeo-Christian God. | 好吧,犹太教基督的上帝。 |
| 2309 | Well, okay, why that one? | 好吧,为什么那个? |
| 2310 | Why this thing? | 为什么是这东西? |
| 2311 | The problem is it's a why question. | 问题是,这是为什么问题。 |
| 2312 | You can keep asking why forever, right? | 你可以一直问 为什么永远,对不对? |
| 2313 | Any answer I give you, | 无论我给你什么答案 |
| 2314 | you'll just ask why again, why again, why again. | 你会问为什么,为什么,为什么再次。 |
| 2315 | Like a little kid. | 像一个小孩子。 |
| 2316 | That's right. | 没错 |
| 2317 | And you end up in a place called Agrippa's Trillema. | 最后你来到一个叫阿格里帕的特丽玛的地方 |
| 2318 | Okay, this is a philosophical exercise. | 好吧,这是一个哲学练习。 |
| 2319 | But I kind of thought it through, | 但我有点想通了, |
| 2320 | then Googled around it. | 然后谷歌围绕它。 |
| 2321 | There's a thing called Agrippa's Trillema. | 有个东西叫阿格里帕的特丽玛 |
| 2322 | And Agrippa's Trillema says that | 阿格里帕的特丽玛说 |
| 2323 | any questioning like this, why, | 任何这样的质疑,为什么, |
| 2324 | will always end in one of three places, okay? | 将永远结束 在三个地方之一,好吗? |
| 2325 | First is infinite regress, right? | 首先是无限倒退,对不对? |
| 2326 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 2327 | Because of this. | 因为这个 |
| 2328 | Why that? | 为什么? |
| 2329 | And just keep playing forever. | 继续玩下去 |
| 2330 | The second is circular reasoning. | 二是循环推理. |
| 2331 | Well, A, why A? | 为什么是A? |
| 2332 | Because of B. | 因为B。 |
| 2333 | Well, why B? | 为什么是B? |
| 2334 | Because of A, right? | 因为A,对不对? |
| 2335 | You get trapped in that. | 你被困在这里面了 |
| 2336 | Or the third is an axiom. | 或第三是义. |
| 2337 | And the most popular axiom is God. | 最受欢迎的是上帝 |
| 2338 | But it could be anything, | 但它可能是任何东西, |
| 2339 | because of math, because of science, | 因为数学,因为科学 |
| 2340 | because of the Big Bang, | 因为大爆炸, |
| 2341 | because of simulation, right? | 因为模拟,对不对? |
| 2342 | These are all axioms. | 这些都是轴心 |
| 2343 | These are all just stopping points. | 这些只是止步点。 |
| 2344 | Saying simulation, we're in a simulation, | 说模拟,我们正在模拟, |
| 2345 | or saying it's the Big Bang, | 或者说这是大爆炸, |
| 2346 | is just another way of saying God. | 只是另一种说上帝的方法 |
| 2347 | It's just, God's a dirty word, | 只是,上帝是个脏话 |
| 2348 | so we don't use it as much anymore, | 所以我们不再用它了 |
| 2349 | but same thing. | 但同样的事情。 |
| 2350 | So you end up in one of these three dead ends, | 所以,你最终在这三个死端之一, |
| 2351 | essentially, right? | 本质上,对不对? |
| 2352 | So there is no answer. | 所以没有答案。 |
| 2353 | The real answer is because. | 真正的答案是因为。 |
| 2354 | Right? | 对吧? |
| 2355 | What is the meaning of life? | 生命的意义是什么? |
| 2356 | Yeah, you get to make up your own answers, | 是啊,你得到 弥补你自己的答案, |
| 2357 | the beauty. | 美丽 |
| 2358 | If there was a single answer, | 如果有一个答案, |
| 2359 | we would not be free. | 我们不会自由 |
| 2360 | We would be trapped. | 我们会被困住的 |
| 2361 | Because then we would all have to live to that answer. | 因为那样的话,我们都得接受这个答案。 |
| 2362 | Then we'd be Borg-like robots, | 然后我们就会成为博格式机器人 |
| 2363 | each one competing with each other | 彼此竞争 |
| 2364 | to fulfill that single meaning more than the others. | 完成这个单一的意义 比其他的更多。 |
| 2365 | Back to signaling, like I'm better at it than you are. | 回到信号,就像我比你更擅长。 |
| 2366 | But luckily, there is no answer. | 但幸运的是,没有答案。 |
| 2367 | So you just do whatever you want. | 所以你随心所欲 |
| 2368 | The meaning of life. | 生命的意义。 |
| 2369 | It's funny that that's the basis of all existential angst, | 有趣的是,这是所有存在愤怒的基础, |
| 2370 | that you don't. | 你没有。 |
| 2371 | You don't know why you're here. | 尔时无量众生. |
| 2372 | And you have this feeling that it could be meaning less. | 你有一种感觉 它可能意味着更少。 |
| 2373 | It is, I mean, when you start pondering the multiverse, | 我的意思是,当你开始思考 多元的, |
| 2374 | the universe, the galaxies, the solar system, | 宇宙 星系 太阳系 |
| 2375 | the planet, the organism, the cells inside the organism, | 行星,生物,生物体内的细胞, |
| 2376 | the bacteria, the parasites, | 细菌,寄生虫, |
| 2377 | the symbiotic relationship we have to our environment, | 我们与环境的共生关系 |
| 2378 | and you start going, Jesus Christ, | 你开始去,耶稣基督, |
| 2379 | am I just a little piece of this thing? | 我只是这个东西的一部分? |
| 2380 | It's like. | 犹如. |
| 2381 | Well, the answers to all the great questions are paradoxes. | 所有大问题的答案都是矛盾的。 |
| 2382 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2383 | So for example, you're asking, like, do I matter? | 比如说,你问,我很重要吗? |
| 2384 | That's like really the question you asked, right? | 这就像真正的问题 你问,对不对? |
| 2385 | Well, how do I matter in this infinite universe? | 我在这无限的宇宙里怎么重要? |
| 2386 | Well, you know, on the one hand, you're separate. | 嗯,你知道,一方面, 你是独立的。 |
| 2387 | No two points are the same. | 无二分同. |
| 2388 | Every point is, every two points are infinitely different. | 每一点,每两点都是无限不同的. |
| 2389 | You're completely separated. | 你们完全分开了 |
| 2390 | No one will have your thoughts, your emotions, | 没有人会有你的想法 你的情绪, |
| 2391 | your feelings, your experience. | 你的感受 你的体验 |
| 2392 | So your life is a single player game. | 所以你的生活是单人游戏 |
| 2393 | You're trapped inside your head, | 你被困在脑子里了 |
| 2394 | and you're just aware of a bunch of things going on. | 你只是知道 一堆事情发生。 |
| 2395 | And that's it. | 且道. |
| 2396 | On the other hand, I cannot say the word Joe Rogan | 另一方面,我不能说 乔罗根这个词 |
| 2397 | without invoking the entire universe. | 而不引用整个宇宙。 |
| 2398 | Alien comes along and says, what's that? | 外星人来了,说,那是什么? |
| 2399 | Joe Rogan. | 乔·罗根. |
| 2400 | What's Joe Rogan? | 乔罗根是什么? |
| 2401 | It's a human. | 谓人曰. |
| 2402 | What's a human bipedal ape? | 什么是人类双人猿? |
| 2403 | What's an ape on the Earth? | 人猿在地球上是什么东西? |
| 2404 | What's the Earth planet? | 地球是什麽星球? |
| 2405 | What's a planet solar system? | 什么是行星太阳系? |
| 2406 | Where was the carbon made? | 碳在哪里制造出来的? |
| 2407 | Inside stars, right? | 内星,对不对? |
| 2408 | Instead, I have to create the entire universe | 相反,我必须创造整个宇宙 |
| 2409 | to just say the word Joe Rogan. | 就说乔·罗根这个词 |
| 2410 | So in that sense, you're connected to everything. | 因此,从这个意义上讲,你与一切有关。 |
| 2411 | It's inseparable. | 这是不可分割的。 |
| 2412 | So the answer to that question of do I matter is, | 所以我的答案是, |
| 2413 | I am nothing and I am everything. | 我一无所有,我一无所有 |
| 2414 | And you'll find this with all the great questions. | 你会发现这一点 与所有伟大的问题。 |
| 2415 | The answers are all paradoxes, | 答案都是自相矛盾的 |
| 2416 | which is why at some level, | 这就是为什么在某些层面, |
| 2417 | it's sort of pointless to pursue them, | 追踪他们毫无意义 |
| 2418 | to find a trite answer like I'm giving. | 找到一个老调重弹的答案 |
| 2419 | But the act of pursuing them is actually really useful | 但追求它们的行为其实真的有用 |
| 2420 | because then it gives you certain intrinsic understanding | 因为它给你一些内在的理解 |
| 2421 | in your life that brings a level of peace. | 在你的生活中 带来一定程度的和平。 |
| 2422 | I feel like there's, with many people, | 我觉得有很多人 |
| 2423 | this stress of this question is also accentuated | 这个问题的这种压力也更加突出。 |
| 2424 | by unhappy lives. | 由不快乐的生活。 |
| 2425 | It's accentuated by unhappy choices, by being trapped. | 被困的不幸选择更加突出 |
| 2426 | There's a big difference between not knowing | 不知不觉有大不同 |
| 2427 | what the meaning of life is | 生命的意义是什么 |
| 2428 | and God, I got to get the fuck out of this job. | 上帝,我得他妈的离开这工作。 |
| 2429 | I have to, I can't live my life this way. | 我必须这么做,我不能这样生活 |
| 2430 | What's the meaning of life if this is my life? | 如果这是我的生活,那生活的意义是什么? |
| 2431 | Which is why I always start with, let's get you rich first. | 所以我从头开始 先给你发财 |
| 2432 | That's why I'm very practical about it. | 故说极实际. |
| 2433 | Because look, Buddha was a prince. | 因为你看,佛陀是王子 |
| 2434 | He started out really rich and then he got to go off in the woods. | 他开始非常富有,然后他要去树林里。 |
| 2435 | And in the old days, what happened was, | 从前发生的事 |
| 2436 | if you wanted to be peaceful inside, | 如果你想在里面平静 |
| 2437 | you would become a monk. | 你会成为一个僧侣。 |
| 2438 | You would renounce everything. | 你会放弃一切 |
| 2439 | You would become an ascetic. | 你会变成一个乙酸。 |
| 2440 | You would give everything up. | 你会放弃一切 |
| 2441 | You would renounce women, men. | 你会放弃女人,男人。 |
| 2442 | You'd renounce children. | 你会放弃孩子。 |
| 2443 | You'd renounce money. | 你会放弃钱。 |
| 2444 | You'd renounce politics, science, technology, everything. | 你会放弃政治,科学,科技,一切 |
| 2445 | And you would go out in the woods by yourself. | 你会一个人去树林里 |
| 2446 | You had to give everything up to be free inside. | 你不得不放弃一切才能自由 |
| 2447 | Well, today we have this wonderful invention called money, | 嗯,今天我们有 一个美妙的发明叫钱, |
| 2448 | where you can just store stuff up in a bank account. | 你可以把东西存放在银行账户里 |
| 2449 | And you can basically save, you can work really hard. | 你基本上可以节省, 你可以工作非常努力。 |
| 2450 | You can do great things for society | 你可以为社会做大事 |
| 2451 | and society will give you money for giving it things | 社会会给你钱 给它的东西 |
| 2452 | that it wants and it doesn't know how to get. | 它想要,它不知道怎样得到。 |
| 2453 | And then you can save that up | 然后你可以保存起来 |
| 2454 | and you can live well below with your means | 并且你可以用你的力量 住在下面 |
| 2455 | and you can find a certain freedom in that. | 你可以从中找到某种自由 |
| 2456 | That will give you the time and the energy | 那会给你时间和精力 |
| 2457 | to pursue your own internal peace and happiness. | 追求内心的和平与幸福 |
| 2458 | So I believe the solution to making everybody happy | 所以我相信让大家快乐的解决方案 |
| 2459 | is to give them what they want. | 是给他们想要的。 |
| 2460 | Let's get them all rich. | 让我们让他们都富有。 |
| 2461 | Let's get them all fit and healthy | 让我们让他们都身体健康 |
| 2462 | and then let's get them all happy. | 然后让我们让他们都快乐。 |
| 2463 | Are those things even possible? | 那些东西有可能吗? |
| 2464 | Everyone can be rich. | 皆能富贵. |
| 2465 | Everyone. | 诸人. |
| 2466 | Here's my thought exercise for you. | 这是我的思想锻炼 |
| 2467 | Now it seems like we're in an infomercial. | 现在看来我们正处在一个隐形状态 |
| 2468 | Everyone can be rich. | 皆能富贵. |
| 2469 | I'm not selling any. | 我不会卖任何。 |
| 2470 | Look at my home. | 看着我的家。 |
| 2471 | This is my Rolls Royce. | 这是我的劳斯罗伊斯。 |
| 2472 | Yeah, so that's a good point. | 是啊,所以这是一个好点。 |
| 2473 | So everything that I've ever created on this topic | 所以,我创造的所有关于这个话题 |
| 2474 | of how to make money, I will never charge a dollar for | 如何赚钱,我永远不会收一块钱 |
| 2475 | because that would ruin it. | 因为这会毁了它。 |
| 2476 | That would show that I'm just another huckster | 那会表明我是另一个哈克斯特 |
| 2477 | who's trying to get rich off of you. | 谁想从你身上发财? |
| 2478 | There are no get rich quick schemes. | 没有任何快速计划 |
| 2479 | That's just somebody else trying to get rich off of you. | 那是别人想从你身上发财 |
| 2480 | So to me, it's more of a philosophical contribution | 对我来说,这更是一种哲学贡献 |
| 2481 | where for it to have meaning and to be legit, | 在那里它有意义和合法, |
| 2482 | I can't charge you anything for it. | 我不能收你的钱 |
| 2483 | But yes, everybody can be rich. | 但是,是的,每个人都可以富有。 |
| 2484 | And let me give you a thought exercise. | 让我给你做个思考 |
| 2485 | Imagine if tomorrow we could wave a wand | 想象一下,如果明天我们能挥动魔杖 |
| 2486 | and everybody was trained as a scientist or an engineer. | 每个人都被训练成科学家或工程师 |
| 2487 | Everybody. | 每个人。 |
| 2488 | Even if you weren't very good, | 即使你表现不好 |
| 2489 | you had enough understanding of computers. | 你对电脑的理解够多了 |
| 2490 | You could write some code. | 你可以写一些代码。 |
| 2491 | You could build some hardware. | 你可以制造一些硬件。 |
| 2492 | And don't tell me people can't do it because they can. | 不要告诉我人们不能这样做,因为他们可以。 |
| 2493 | That's just a tyranny of soft expectations. | 这只是一种温柔的期望的暴政。 |
| 2494 | That's just you looking down on somebody else. | 你只是看不起别人 |
| 2495 | They can do it. | 他们能做到的。 |
| 2496 | They just have to be educated. | 他们只需要接受教育。 |
| 2497 | Now, if they're educated all as hardware, software engineers, | 如果他们都受过硬件和软件工程师的教育 |
| 2498 | scientists, biologists, technicians, hard sciences, | 科学家、生物学家、技术人员、硬科学 |
| 2499 | not the social sciences, | 不是社会科学 |
| 2500 | we would all be done within five years. | 我们都将在五年内完成。 |
| 2501 | Robots would be doing everything from cleaning toilets | 机器人会从洗手间做一切 |
| 2502 | to cooking food to flying airplanes to driving Ubers. | 烹饪食物 飞行飞机驾驶Ubers。 |
| 2503 | And what would we be doing? | 我们该怎么办? |
| 2504 | We would be doing all creative jobs to entertain each other | 我们会做所有创造性的工作 互相娱乐 |
| 2505 | and researching science and technology. | 研究科学技术。 |
| 2506 | We would have wonderful lives. | 我们会有美好的生活。 |
| 2507 | So it is really just a question of education. | 所以,这其实只是一个教育问题。 |
| 2508 | Nothing else. | 没有别的。 |
| 2509 | Is this a scale issue though? | 这是规模问题吗? |
| 2510 | I mean, you're talking about it as if this would work | 我的意思是,你谈论它 像这会工作 |
| 2511 | with 300 million people. | 与3亿人。 |
| 2512 | It'll work with 10 billion people. | 能令百亿众生. |
| 2513 | It'll work with a space-faring race | 它能与太空竞赛相配合 |
| 2514 | with 100 trillion people. | 与100万亿人口。 |
| 2515 | We have the resources. | 我们有资源。 |
| 2516 | We have the ability. | 我们有能力。 |
| 2517 | The universe is infinite resources. | 宇宙是无限的资源。 |
| 2518 | Have you heard of a Dyson Sphere? | 你听说过戴森球体吗? |
| 2519 | You pull the Dyson Sphere on a star | 你把戴森球拍在一颗恒星上 |
| 2520 | and you gather all its energy. | 并收集它所有的能量。 |
| 2521 | There's so much energy out there. | 外面充满能量 |
| 2522 | One asteroid's got all the minerals that we need. | 一颗小行星拥有我们需要的所有矿物 |
| 2523 | One sun, one solar system has got all the power we will need | 一个太阳,一个太阳系拥有了我们需要的一切动力 |
| 2524 | for a long, long time. | 很久没见了 |
| 2525 | We can extract it out of nuclear fusion. | 我们可以把它从核聚变中提取出来. |
| 2526 | We're not that far from those kinds of technologies working. | 我们离这些技术的应用还不太远。 |
| 2527 | It's just a question of guts and interest. | 这只是一个胆量和兴趣的问题。 |
| 2528 | We should be building nuclear fusion test plants on the moon. | 我们应该在月球上建造核聚变试验厂. |
| 2529 | The moon should be littered with them. | 月亮应该和它们一起 |
| 2530 | It's no downside. | 亦不堕落. |
| 2531 | How would that work? | 怎么会这样? |
| 2532 | Send a bunch of people up there to work? | 派一群人上去工作吗? |
| 2533 | Robots. | 机器人们 |
| 2534 | The problem with fission, nuclear fission, | 裂变 核裂变的问题 |
| 2535 | is that nature creates energy through nuclear energy. | 大自然通过核能创造能源。 |
| 2536 | The sun creates energy, nuclear energy. | 太阳创造能量,核能 |
| 2537 | Now for transmission, we use photons | 现在用光子传送 |
| 2538 | because photons don't interact. | 因为光子不会相互作用 |
| 2539 | Photons are great for information transmission, | 光子对信息传输很重要, |
| 2540 | but they're actually not great for energy transmission. | 但它们实际上不擅长能量传输。 |
| 2541 | For energy creation, you want nuclear to work. | 为了创造能量,你希望核能工作。 |
| 2542 | The problem is because nuclear energy, | 问题在于核能 |
| 2543 | we built it with a bomb. | 我们用炸弹建造的 |
| 2544 | We have dirty nukes, all those kinds of problems. | 我们有肮脏的核弹, 所有这些问题。 |
| 2545 | We have Fukushima, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl. | 我们有福岛,三里岛,切尔诺贝利。 |
| 2546 | We don't innovate anymore on nukes. | 我们不再对核武器进行创新了。 |
| 2547 | Imagine if when the first steam engine blew up, | 想象一下,当第一台蒸汽机爆炸时, |
| 2548 | we said, oh, no more steam engines for a while, | 我们说,哦,不 更多的蒸汽机一段时间, |
| 2549 | or very carefully regulated billion dollars of regulation. | 或非常仔细的监管 10亿美元的管理。 |
| 2550 | You can't innovate that way. | 你不能这样创新 |
| 2551 | When the first airplane crashed, | 当第一架飞机坠毁时, |
| 2552 | we said no more innovation in airplanes. | 我们说过飞机不能再创新了 |
| 2553 | We need a way to iterate on nuclear fission | 我们需要在核裂变上采取一个方法 |
| 2554 | and eventually fusion and get them working safely, | 最终让他们安全工作 |
| 2555 | cleanly, passive, failure, et cetera, | 干净,被动,失败等等, |
| 2556 | if we're going to find our way out of the energy trap. | 如果我们想摆脱能量陷阱 |
| 2557 | The best place to do that is some place like on the moon or Mars. | 最好的地方是月球或火星上某个地方 |
| 2558 | Do you think that that's actually a possibility | 你觉得这是否真的有可能 |
| 2559 | that they could get nuclear power | 他们可以得到核电 |
| 2560 | to the point where it's not a detriment? | 以至于不至于损害? |
| 2561 | What everyone's worried about is a meltdown. | 大家都担心的是崩溃 |
| 2562 | We do have these old plants that are running on this. | 我们确实有这些老植物 运行在这个上面。 |
| 2563 | This is 50-year-old technology. | 这是50年的科技。 |
| 2564 | It's crazy because there's no ability to shut them off. | 这是疯狂的,因为没有能力 关闭他们。 |
| 2565 | Right, very old technology. | 对,非常古老的技术。 |
| 2566 | They do now have Gen 4 nuclear reactors | 他们现在有Gen 4核反应堆 |
| 2567 | that are passive fail-safe. | 这是被动的故障安全。 |
| 2568 | In other words, when they fail, | 换句话说,当他们失败时, |
| 2569 | you pull the plug on them, | 你拔掉他们的插头, |
| 2570 | they fail into a state where there's no leakage, | 他们没有进入一个没有渗漏的状态, |
| 2571 | there's no problem. | 没有问题 |
| 2572 | Their default is a positive outcome | 他们的默认是一个积极的结果 |
| 2573 | as opposed to the current ones, | 而不是现在的, |
| 2574 | the old ones where if you unplug them. | 旧的,如果你拔掉它们。 |
| 2575 | Even these Gen 4 are just Gen 4. | 即使这些四世也只是四世 |
| 2576 | They're not Gen 5. | 他们不是五郎 |
| 2577 | They're not Gen 80, Gen 100, | 他们不是80、100 |
| 2578 | where we have microprocessors, right? | 我们这里有微处理器,对吧? |
| 2579 | And that should be something that people are working towards. | 这应该是人们努力的目标。 |
| 2580 | I hope so. | 我希望是这样。 |
| 2581 | In an ideal world, | 在理想的世界里, |
| 2582 | the problem is if you have nuclear energy on the moon, | 问题是如果你有核能在月球上 |
| 2583 | how do you get it home? | 你怎么把它带回家? |
| 2584 | So what you actually got to do is you got to rev it on the moon | 你要做的就是在月球上重现 |
| 2585 | and you're using it there maybe to launch more satellites, | 你利用它在那里 也许发射更多的卫星, |
| 2586 | more rockets further out into the solar system. | 更多火箭进入太阳系 |
| 2587 | And that's the initial use case. | 而此是初用义. |
| 2588 | But then eventually the technology gets so good, | 但最终技术变得如此优秀 |
| 2589 | you can bring it home. | 你可以把它带回家。 |
| 2590 | Now, I want to go back to this idea of getting people rich, | 现在,我想回到这个想法 让人们发财, |
| 2591 | that somehow or another that's going to make people happy. | 以某种方式或另一种方式 让人们快乐 |
| 2592 | How do you stop the natural progression | 如何阻止自然进步 |
| 2593 | that people have of, you know, | 人们有,你知道, |
| 2594 | oh, you know, I've got a nice Chevrolet, | 哦,你知道,我有一个漂亮的雪佛兰, |
| 2595 | but I really want a BMW. | 但我真的很想要一辆宝马 |
| 2596 | I've got a nice BMW, | 我有一辆漂亮的宝马 |
| 2597 | but now I want a Mercedes, | 但现在我要一辆奔驰 |
| 2598 | I have a Mercedes, | 我有一辆奔驰, |
| 2599 | I want a Ferrari. | 我要一个法拉利。 |
| 2600 | How do you stop that material possession, | 如何阻止这种物质占有, |
| 2601 | trap, because- | 陷阱,因为... |
| 2602 | You can't at some level, | 你不能在某个层面, |
| 2603 | but I think most smart people over time realize | 但我认为大多数聪明人 随着时间的推移意识到 |
| 2604 | that possessions don't make them happy, right? | 财产不让他们高兴,对不对? |
| 2605 | It's just, you have to go through that. | 只是,你必须经历。 |
| 2606 | You have to buy your stupid car to realize | 你要买你的蠢车才知道 |
| 2607 | that it doesn't attract attractive girls, | 不吸引有魅力的女孩, |
| 2608 | that actually just attracts other dudes who are like, | 其实只是吸引了其他男人 谁喜欢, |
| 2609 | hey, I like that car, man. | 嘿,我喜欢那辆车,伙计。 |
| 2610 | Right. | 对 |
| 2611 | Like you have some expensive cars out there, | 像你有一些昂贵的汽车在那里, |
| 2612 | some fancy cars. | 一些漂亮的车。 |
| 2613 | Tell me how much that attracts women versus men. | 告诉我这吸引了多少女人和男人 |
| 2614 | Well, I'm married. | 我结婚了 |
| 2615 | Those are for me. | 那是给我的 |
| 2616 | I just enjoy machines. | 我只是喜欢机器。 |
| 2617 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2618 | So for me, they're toys. | 所以对我来说,它们是玩具。 |
| 2619 | That's a particular thing where you enjoy machines, | 那是你喜欢机器的特殊之处 |
| 2620 | but I think very, as you get older, | 但我认为,随着你变老, |
| 2621 | you just realize that there's no happiness | 你只是意识到 没有幸福 |
| 2622 | in material possessions. | 在物质财产。 |
| 2623 | Now, lack of material possessions | 现在,缺乏物质财产 |
| 2624 | can make you very unhappy. | 让你很不高兴 |
| 2625 | So being poor can make you unhappy, | 所以,如果贫穷 会让你不高兴, |
| 2626 | but being rich is not going to make you happy. | 但有钱不会让你高兴 |
| 2627 | And what happens, unfortunately, | 不幸发生的事 |
| 2628 | a lot of people struggle through their whole lives | 很多人一生都在挣扎 |
| 2629 | to make money. | 赚钱。 |
| 2630 | They make some, they're exhausted. | 他们做了一些,他们累坏了。 |
| 2631 | And then they're like, well, now why am I not happy? | 然后他们喜欢, 好了,现在,为什么我不高兴? |
| 2632 | I guess I'm just not a happy person | 我想我只是不是一个快乐的人 |
| 2633 | and smart people aren't happy. | 聪明人不高兴 |
| 2634 | That's like a great little way that people | 这就像一个伟大的小方式 人们 |
| 2635 | feel better about it. | 感觉好多了 |
| 2636 | They say, well, if you're smart, you're not happy. | 他们说,如果你聪明,你就不高兴 |
| 2637 | Right. | 对 |
| 2638 | I posit it the other way. | 我假设这是另外一种方式。 |
| 2639 | If you're smart, you should be able to figure out | 如果你聪明,你应该能想明白 |
| 2640 | how to be happy. | 如何是快乐. |
| 2641 | Otherwise, you're not that smart. | 否则,你没那么聪明。 |
| 2642 | Yeah, that is an offensive statement | 是啊,这是一个攻击性的声明 |
| 2643 | that if you're smart, you're not happy. | 如果你聪明,你就不高兴。 |
| 2644 | I've heard that before, and I just | 我听说过,我只是 |
| 2645 | do not understand the logic of that, | 不明白这逻辑, |
| 2646 | other than self-justifying. | 而不是自我判断。 |
| 2647 | I understand where it comes from. | 我了解它从哪里来的 |
| 2648 | It comes from, if you're smart, it's usually | 它来自,如果你聪明,它通常 |
| 2649 | because you thought things through | 因为你认为事情经过 |
| 2650 | and you have a very busy mind. | 你有一个非常忙碌的头脑。 |
| 2651 | And so a busy mind can often rob you of peace of mind. | 所以,一个忙碌的心灵 常常可以抢走你的安宁。 |
| 2652 | Because the peace that we seek is not peace of mind, | 因为我们所寻求的和平不是和平 |
| 2653 | it's peace from mind. | 从心底是和平 |
| 2654 | So if you look at all the crazy activities | 所以如果你看看所有疯狂的活动 |
| 2655 | you do to be happy, whether it's trying to get laid | 你要高兴,不管它是不是想做爱 |
| 2656 | and have an orgasm or extreme sports | 有高潮或极端运动 |
| 2657 | or looking at something beautiful | 或者看一些美丽的东西 |
| 2658 | or taking a psychedelic, you're trying | 或者服用迷幻药,你正在尝试 |
| 2659 | to get out of your own mind. | 离开你自己的想法。 |
| 2660 | You're trying to get your monkey mind | 你试图得到你的猴心 |
| 2661 | to stop chattering at you for a moment. | 别再跟你闲聊了 |
| 2662 | You're trying to get peace from the mind. | 汝欲从心得安乐. |
| 2663 | And there are other better ways to do that. | 还有其它更好的方法可以做到这一点。 |
| 2664 | Most of the ways we try to get peace from mind are indirect. | 我们试图从思想中获得和平的大多数方式都是间接的. |
| 2665 | Whereas if you understand things, | 如果你们知道, |
| 2666 | if you see things properly, you will naturally | 如果你看到正确的事情, 你自然会 |
| 2667 | slowly develop peace from mind. | 慢慢地从思想中发展和平. |
| 2668 | Sorry if I went on a tangent there. | 对不起,如果我去了一个切合。 |
| 2669 | No, it's a good tangent. | 不,这是一个很好的切换。 |
| 2670 | It's a good tangent because I think oftentimes | 这是一个很好的切换,因为我觉得经常 |
| 2671 | the pursuit is what's thrilling to people | 追逐是让人兴奋的东西 |
| 2672 | and the possibility that one day they'll be able to rest | 以及有一天他们能安息的可能性 |
| 2673 | and that they'll reach this goal. | 他们会达到这个目标 |
| 2674 | That's the fundamental delusion, | 这就是根本的妄想 |
| 2675 | that there is something out there | 外面有东西 |
| 2676 | that will make me happy and fulfill forever. | 这会让我永远快乐和满足 |
| 2677 | The golden years. | 金色岁月. |
| 2678 | Τ | |
| 2679 | It's called death. | 名为死. |
| 2680 | I'll take care of everything. | 我会照顾一切。 |
| 2681 | That's the great leveler. | 这是伟大的水平。 |
| 2682 | But when people look at particularly social media, | 但当人们特别看社交媒体时, |
| 2683 | let's bring it back to that, | 让我们把它带回, |
| 2684 | when you see someone who, you know, | 当你看到某人,你知道, |
| 2685 | you see them posed in front of their mansion | 你看到他们摆在豪宅前 |
| 2686 | with their beautiful car and they're leaning against it | 和他们美丽的车 他们靠在它上 |
| 2687 | with their designer clothes on, their expensive watch, | 带着他们设计师的衣服, 他们昂贵的表, |
| 2688 | you go, ah, I want that. | 你去吧,啊,我要那个。 |
| 2689 | That's what I want. | 这就是我想要的。 |
| 2690 | What you really want is freedom. | 你真正想要的就是自由。 |
| 2691 | You want freedom from your money problems. | 你想摆脱你的金钱问题 |
| 2692 | Right. | 对 |
| 2693 | And I think that's okay. | 我觉得这没关系。 |
| 2694 | So people, once someone can solve their money problems, | 所以,人们,一旦有人能解决 他们的钱问题, |
| 2695 | either by lowering their lifestyle | 要么降低他们的生活方式 |
| 2696 | or by making enough money, | 或者通过赚足够的钱, |
| 2697 | and, you know, essentially what you want | 而且,你知道,本质上,你想要的 |
| 2698 | to get everybody to is retirement. | 让所有人都退休 |
| 2699 | But not retirement in the, | 但不是退休的时候, |
| 2700 | I'm 65 years old sitting in a nursing home | 我65岁坐在疗养院 |
| 2701 | collecting a check retirement. | 收集退休支票。 |
| 2702 | Different definition. | 不同定义. |
| 2703 | Retirement is when you stop sacrificing today | 退休是当你不再牺牲今天 |
| 2704 | for some imaginary tomorrow. | 为一些想象中的明天。 |
| 2705 | Yes. | 对 |
| 2706 | When today is complete in and of itself, you're retired. | 当今天自己完成的时候,你就退休了 |
| 2707 | And so how do you get there? | 那么,你如何到达那里? |
| 2708 | Well, one is you can have so much money saved up | 首先,你可以存这么多钱 |
| 2709 | that just your passive income off of that | 只是你的被动收入 从那 |
| 2710 | without you having to lift a finger | 你不必举起手指 |
| 2711 | covers your burn rate. | 覆盖你的烧率。 |
| 2712 | Keep your burn rate low, right? | 保持低烧率,对不对? |
| 2713 | A second is you just drive your burn rate down to zero. | 第二,你只是把燃烧率降到零。 |
| 2714 | You become a monk. | 汝当作和尚. |
| 2715 | A third is you're doing something you love. | 第三,你正在做你喜欢的事。 |
| 2716 | You enjoy it so much. | 你这么喜欢它。 |
| 2717 | It's not about the money. | 不是钱的事 |
| 2718 | So there are multiple ways to that path. | 因此,有多种途径可以走这条道路。 |
| 2719 | But the most common is people just say, | 但最常见的是人们只是说, |
| 2720 | I need to make more money. | 我需要赚更多的钱。 |
| 2721 | And the kind of wealth creation that I talk about | 我所谈论的财富创造 |
| 2722 | is about creating timeless principles | 是创造永恒的原则 |
| 2723 | and adapting yourselves that making money | 并适应自己 赚钱 |
| 2724 | won't be an issue. | 不会是一个问题。 |
| 2725 | And you can do it by doing what you love, right? | 你可以做你喜欢的事,对吧? |
| 2726 | Like we get into this model of, | 就像我们进入这个模型, |
| 2727 | I must work for other people, | 我必须为别人工作, |
| 2728 | work my way up the ladder. | 爬上梯子来 |
| 2729 | I must like do what that person is doing to make money. | 我一定喜欢做他正在做的赚钱。 |
| 2730 | But really today in society, | 但实际上今天在社会中, |
| 2731 | you get rewarded for creative work, | 你因为创造力而得到奖励 |
| 2732 | for creating something brand new | 创造全新的东西 |
| 2733 | that society didn't even know yet that it wanted. | 社会甚至不知道 它想要。 |
| 2734 | It doesn't know how to get other than through you. | 除了通过你,它不知道如何得到其他。 |
| 2735 | So the most powerful money makers | 所以最有实力的赚钱者 |
| 2736 | are actually individual brands. | 其实是个人品牌。 |
| 2737 | People like yourself or Elon or Kanye or Oprah or Trump, right? | 像你或伊隆或坎耶、奥普拉或特朗普这样的人 对吧? |
| 2738 | These are individual brands, | 这些是个人品牌, |
| 2739 | eponymous name brands who themselves are leveraged. | 名牌名牌本身是杠杆。 |
| 2740 | Like you're leveraged. | 就像你被利用一样 |
| 2741 | You have podcast media going out to everybody. | 你有播客媒体 出去每个人。 |
| 2742 | That's leveraged. | 这是杠杆。 |
| 2743 | The podcasts work for you and you sleep. | 播客为你工作,你睡觉。 |
| 2744 | They have knowledge that nobody else has, | 他们知道没有人知道, |
| 2745 | which is your knowledge is the knowledge of being Joe Rogan. | 这就是你对乔·罗根的了解 |
| 2746 | I mean, who else is a UFC fighter and a commentator | 我的意思是,还有谁是一个UFC战斗机和评论员 |
| 2747 | and a podcaster and a comedian | 以及一个播客和一个喜剧演员 |
| 2748 | interested in all these things | 对这一切感兴趣 |
| 2749 | and knows all these people can't replace you. | 而且知道这些人不能取代你 |
| 2750 | So we have to pay you what you're worth. | 所以,我们必须支付你的价值。 |
| 2751 | I never fought in the UFC though. | 我从来没参加过UFC比赛 |
| 2752 | Oh, you didn't? | 哦,你没有? |
| 2753 | Okay, sorry. | 好吧,对不起。 |
| 2754 | Or whatever, you're involved in that whole scene. | 或者什么的,你参与了整个场景。 |
| 2755 | You just have a unique set of skill sets. | 你只有一套独特的技能 |
| 2756 | So because of this unique, what I call specific knowledge, | 因此,由于这个独特的, 我称之为具体的知识, |
| 2757 | because of the accountability that you have with your name, | 因为你对你的名字负责 |
| 2758 | because of the leverage that you have through your media, | 因为你通过媒体的影响力 |
| 2759 | you're a money making machine. | 你是个赚钱的机器 |
| 2760 | I'm sure at this point, | 我敢肯定,在这一点上, |
| 2761 | I could make you start over tomorrow, | 我可以让你明天重新开始 |
| 2762 | wipe out your bank account, | 清除你的银行账户, |
| 2763 | you'd be rich again in no time | 你很快就会发财了 |
| 2764 | because you have all the skill sets. | 因为你拥有所有的技能 |
| 2765 | So once people have those skill sets | 所以一旦人们有了这些技能 |
| 2766 | and the beauty is the way you've done it | 美是你们的方式 |
| 2767 | is you don't have any competition. | 你没有竞争对手 |
| 2768 | There's no substitution. | 无有替代. |
| 2769 | If Joe Rogan were to disappear off the air tomorrow, | 如果乔·罗根明天从电视上消失 |
| 2770 | it's not like random podcaster number 12 | 这不像12号的随机计时器 |
| 2771 | would step in and fill that thing. | 将介入并填充。 |
| 2772 | No, it's just gone. | 不,它只是不见了。 |
| 2773 | So the way to get out of that competition trap | 摆脱竞争陷阱的方法 |
| 2774 | is actually to be authentic. | 实际上是真实的。 |
| 2775 | The way to retire is actually to find the thing | 退休的方式其实是找到东西 |
| 2776 | that you know how to do better than anybody. | 你知道如何比任何人都做得更好。 |
| 2777 | And you know how to do that better than anybody | 你比谁都懂得怎么做 |
| 2778 | because you love to do it. | 因为你喜欢这样做。 |
| 2779 | No one can compete with you if you love to do it. | 如果你喜欢的话 没人能和你竞争 |
| 2780 | Be authentic and then figure out how to map that | 做真实的,然后找出 如何映射 |
| 2781 | to what society actually wants, apply some leverage, | 社会真正想要的, 运用一些杠杆, |
| 2782 | put your name on it so you take the risks, | 把你的名字放在上面 这样你就冒险了 |
| 2783 | but you gain the rewards, | 但你们得享受报酬, |
| 2784 | have ownership and equity in what you do | 拥有所有权和公平的权利 |
| 2785 | and then just crank it out. | 然后就把它调出来。 |
| 2786 | I think people have to be very careful | 我认为人们必须非常小心 |
| 2787 | to not get trapped along the way | 以免被困在路上 |
| 2788 | with things that you can afford | 与你能负担的东西 |
| 2789 | with your current lifestyle, | 以你目前的生活方式, |
| 2790 | like the way you're living and the way you're earning, | 就像你的生活和收入一样 |
| 2791 | but they're also imprisoning you | 但他们也在囚禁你 |
| 2792 | and the fact that you are now going to have to work | 而现在你必须工作的事实 |
| 2793 | this 40-hour-a-week job in order to get this thing | 每周40小时的工作 为了得到这个东西 |
| 2794 | that you can't afford, | 你买不起, |
| 2795 | but now you're saddled down to this job. | 但现在你已经做好了这份工作 |
| 2796 | You're not saving, you're not putting things | 你不救人,不放东西 |
| 2797 | in a good place, and you're working for these things. | 在一个好地方, 你为这些东西工作。 |
| 2798 | Working for things as rewards is a real trap | 以奖励为目的是真正的陷阱 |
| 2799 | that a lot of people fall into. | 很多人都掉进去了 |
| 2800 | It's the biggest one. | 这是最大的一个。 |
| 2801 | Nassim Taleb 也说有两个大瘾 | |
| 2802 | heroin and a monthly salary. | 海洛因和月工资 |
| 2803 | And that's why you can't get rich renting out your time, | 所以你不能有钱租出去 |
| 2804 | because even when you start charging more and more | 因为即使你开始充电越来越多 |
| 2805 | for your time, it's a slow upgrade loop, | 对于你来说,这是一个缓慢的升级循环, |
| 2806 | and then you upgrade your house at the same time, | 然后,你同时更新你的房子, |
| 2807 | you get your car at the same time, | 你同时得到你的车, |
| 2808 | you move in the neighborhood. | 你搬到附近来。 |
| 2809 | You really also have to get used to ignoring your peers | 你真的要习惯于忽视你的同伴 |
| 2810 | or upgrading or changing the definition of your peers. | 或更新或更改同伴的定义。 |
| 2811 | There are a lot of people here who are poor here, | 这里有很多穷人 |
| 2812 | but they would be rich if they were living in Thailand | 如果他们住在泰国,他们就会发财 |
| 2813 | and Bali and if they have the luxury | 和巴厘岛,如果他们有奢侈 |
| 2814 | of a remotely doable job, | 一份远程工作, |
| 2815 | they may want to be living there | 他们可能想住在那里 |
| 2816 | and saving up money. | 和存钱。 |
| 2817 | But the ignoring the peers is an issue, | 但忽视同伴是个问题, |
| 2818 | because the keeping up with the Joneses | 因为跟琼斯一家在一起 |
| 2819 | is a real phenomenon. | 这是一种真正的现象。 |
| 2820 | Yeah, envy makes the world go round. | 是啊,羡慕让世界转动。 |
| 2821 | And then there's this other thing | 还有一件事 |
| 2822 | that people have to avoid even allowing their mind to think. | 人必须避免甚至 让他们的思想思考。 |
| 2823 | When they're hearing what you're saying, | 当他们听到你说的话时 |
| 2824 | and all this logical, fantastic advice, | 和所有这些合乎逻辑的,奇妙的建议, |
| 2825 | there's these six dirty words that's easy for you to say. | 此六脏之言,皆易言也. |
| 2826 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2827 | That is a terrible trap. | 这是一个可怕的陷阱。 |
| 2828 | Look, I grew up as a first-generation immigrant | 你看,我长大 作为一个第一代移民 |
| 2829 | in Jamaica, Queens, with zero money, | 在牙买加,皇后区,零钱, |
| 2830 | single mom, two kids, working day and night, going to school. | 单身妈妈 两个孩子 日夜工作 上学 |
| 2831 | I washed dishes. | 我洗了盘子 |
| 2832 | I was working catering jobs. | 我在做餐饮工作 |
| 2833 | I was mowing lawns. | 我在割草坪 |
| 2834 | I was working since the age of 11, | 我从11岁就开始工作了 |
| 2835 | on and off here and there. | 这里和那里 |
| 2836 | Didn't have two cents to rub together. | 没有两毛钱一起擦。 |
| 2837 | I had to borrow $400 to go to college, | 我不得不借400美元去上大学, |
| 2838 | a short $400. | 一个短400美元。 |
| 2839 | I had to find $400. | 我必须找到400美元。 |
| 2840 | I didn't have it. | 我没有 |
| 2841 | Got rejected from a job at Dunkin' Donuts. | 在Dunkin'甜甜圈的工作被拒绝了。 |
| 2842 | It's not to say that it's easy. | 不说方便. |
| 2843 | It's not easy. | 岂不易哉. |
| 2844 | It's actually really fricking hard. | 这真的很难。 |
| 2845 | It is the hardest thing you will do, | 这是你最难做的事 |
| 2846 | but it's also the rewarding thing. | 但它也是 奖励的事情。 |
| 2847 | Look at the kids who are born rich, | 看看那些天生有钱的孩子 |
| 2848 | no meaning to their lives. | 他们的生活没有任何意义。 |
| 2849 | It's a terrible place. | 这是一个可怕的地方。 |
| 2850 | Your real resume is just a cataloging | 你真正的简历只是目录 |
| 2851 | of all your suffering. | 你所有的痛苦。 |
| 2852 | If I were to ask you to describe your real life to yourself, | 如果我让你描述你真实的生活 |
| 2853 | when you look back in your deathbed, | 当你回想起你死去的时候 |
| 2854 | you're going to go back and say, | 你要回去说, |
| 2855 | what are the interesting things I've done? | 我做过什么有趣的事? |
| 2856 | And it's all going to be around the sacrifices that you made | 这一切都会围绕着你所做的牺牲 |
| 2857 | and the hard things that you did. | 还有你所做的事 |
| 2858 | Anything you're given doesn't matter. | 你得到的任何东西都无所谓 |
| 2859 | You have your forelimbs. | 你有你的前额。 |
| 2860 | You have your brain. | 你有你的大脑。 |
| 2861 | You have your head. | 你有你的头。 |
| 2862 | You have your skin. | 你有你的皮肤。 |
| 2863 | That's all for granted. | 这是理所当然的。 |
| 2864 | So you have to do hard things anyway | 所以,你必须做 艰难的事情反正 |
| 2865 | to create your own meaning in life. | 创造自己在生活中的意义。 |
| 2866 | Making money is a fine one. | 赚钱是件好事 |
| 2867 | Yeah, struggle. | 是啊,挣扎。 |
| 2868 | It is hard. | 这是很难的。 |
| 2869 | I'm not going to say it's easy. | 我不会说这是容易的。 |
| 2870 | It's really hard. | 这真的很难。 |
| 2871 | But the tools are all available. | 但是,这些工具都是可用的。 |
| 2872 | It's all there. | 都在这了 |
| 2873 | There's also these traps that people | 还有这些陷阱,人们 |
| 2874 | sort of establish in their own mind | 那种建立 在他们自己的思想 |
| 2875 | of giving themselves excuses | 托辞, |
| 2876 | or giving themselves unsurmountable obstacles, | 或设置重重障碍, |
| 2877 | insurmountable paths and terrain. | 不可逾越的路径和地形. |
| 2878 | Victim mentality. | 受害者心态。 |
| 2879 | It's somebody else's fault. | 这是别人的错。 |
| 2880 | It's my skin color's fault. | 是我的皮肤颜色的错 |
| 2881 | It's the system's fault. | 是系统错. |
| 2882 | Yeah, those people are sinking. | 是啊,那些人正在沉没。 |
| 2883 | I feel bad for them. | 我为他们感到难过。 |
| 2884 | I want to shake them out of it | 我想把他们甩掉 |
| 2885 | and say, actually, you can get out of it. | 并说,实际上, 你可以摆脱它。 |
| 2886 | You just have to stop thinking it's everybody else's fault. | 你只要别以为是别人的错 |
| 2887 | You have to alter the perspective. | 你必须改变观点。 |
| 2888 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2889 | But it's so difficult for people to do. | 但众生难得. |
| 2890 | It's one of the most difficult things for people to do | 这是人们最难做的事情之一 |
| 2891 | is to change the way they approach reality itself. | 就是改变他们面对现实的方式 |
| 2892 | At the end of the day, I do think, | 最后,我确实认为, |
| 2893 | even despite what I said earlier, | 尽管我之前说过 |
| 2894 | life is really a single-player game. | 生活真的是一个单人游戏。 |
| 2895 | It's all going on in your head. | 一切如来智. |
| 2896 | Whatever you think you believe | 不管你认为你相信什么 |
| 2897 | will very much shape your reality, | 将非常塑造你的现实 |
| 2898 | both from what risks you take | 都因为你冒了多大的风险 |
| 2899 | and what actions you perform, | 和你们的行为, |
| 2900 | but also just your everyday experience of reality. | 也只是你每天经历的现实 |
| 2901 | If you're walking down the street | 如果你走在街上的话 |
| 2902 | and you're judging everyone, | 你在评判每个人 |
| 2903 | you're like, I don't like that person | 你就像 我不喜欢那个人 |
| 2904 | because of their skin color. | 因为他们的肤色 |
| 2905 | I don't like that. | 我不喜欢这样 |
| 2906 | Oh, she's not attractive. | 哦,她没有吸引力。 |
| 2907 | That guy's fat. | 那家伙的脂肪。 |
| 2908 | This person's a loser. | 这个人是个失败者 |
| 2909 | Oh, who put this in my way? | 哦,谁把这个挡着我的路? |
| 2910 | The more you judge, | 你越是判断 |
| 2911 | the more you're going to separate yourself | 你们要分开的越多 |
| 2912 | and you'll feel good for an instant | 你会觉得好瞬间 |
| 2913 | because you'll feel good about yourself. | 因为你会觉得自己很好。 |
| 2914 | I'm better than that. | 我比这好 |
| 2915 | But then you're going to feel lonely | 但你会觉得寂寞 |
| 2916 | and then you're just going to see negativity everywhere. | 然后你就会看到 消极主义无处不在。 |
| 2917 | The world just reflects your own feelings back at you. | 这个世界只是反映了你自己对你的感觉 |
| 2918 | Reality is neutral. | 现实是中立的。 |
| 2919 | Reality has no judgments. | 现实没有判断力。 |
| 2920 | To a tree, there's no concept of right or wrong | 对树没有对错的概念 |
| 2921 | or good or bad, right? | 或好或坏,对不对? |
| 2922 | You're born. | 尔时世尊. |
| 2923 | You have a whole set of sensory experiences | 你有一整套感官体验 |
| 2924 | and stimulations and lights and colors and sounds, | 以电光和彩色,以及声音; |
| 2925 | and then you die. | 然后你会死 |
| 2926 | And how you choose to interpret that is up to you. | 你如何解释这取决于你。 |
| 2927 | You do have that choice. | 你确实有这样的选择。 |
| 2928 | So this is what I meant, | 所以这就是我的意思, |
| 2929 | that happiness is a choice. | 快乐是一个选择。 |
| 2930 | If you believe it's a choice, | 如果你相信这是一个选择, |
| 2931 | then you can start working on it. | 然后,你可以开始做它。 |
| 2932 | And I can't tell you how to find it | 我不能告诉你如何找到它 |
| 2933 | because it's your own conditionings | 因为这是你自己的设定 |
| 2934 | that are making you unhappy. | 这让你不高兴。 |
| 2935 | So you have to uncondition yourself. | 所以,你必须解开自己的条件。 |
| 2936 | It's just like, I can't fix your eating habits for you. | 这就像,我不能 纠正你的饮食习惯给你。 |
| 2937 | I can give you some general guidelines, | 我可以给你一些一般的准则, |
| 2938 | but you got to go through the hard habit forming | 但你必须经历艰难的习惯 |
| 2939 | of how to eat right. | 如何吃对。 |
| 2940 | But you have to believe it's possible. | 但你必须相信这是可能的。 |
| 2941 | And it is absolutely possible. | 这是绝对可能的。 |
| 2942 | I was miserable. | 我很悲惨。 |
| 2943 | I'm happy as a clam. | 我快乐的如蛤. |
| 2944 | It's not just the money. | 这不仅仅是钱。 |
| 2945 | I got there before the money. | 我钱还没到 |
| 2946 | You got happy before the money? | 钱之前你很开心? |
| 2947 | Mostly, yeah. | 大部分时间,是的。 |
| 2948 | How did you get happy before the money? | 钱之前你怎么高兴的? |
| 2949 | I started getting older. | 我开始变老了 |
| 2950 | I just realized life is short. | 我只是意识到生命是短暂的。 |
| 2951 | I'm going to die. | 将死. |
| 2952 | Again, trite, right? | 再说一遍,老古董,对吧? |
| 2953 | (原始内容存档于2018-09-26). Trite, trite. | |
| 2954 | In many ways. | 在许多方面。 |
| 2955 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2956 | Well, Confucius had a great saying that | 孔子说得好 |
| 2957 | every man has two lives. | 每个男人都有两条命 |
| 2958 | And the second starts when he realizes he has just one. | 第二,当他意识到他只有一个。 |
| 2959 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 2960 | And I read that it was one of those book dropping lines. | 我读到,这是一本书 扔行。 |
| 2961 | It's like mic drop. | 这就像麦克风滴。 |
| 2962 | Confucius had a lot of mic drops. | 孔子的麦克风滴了很多. |
| 2963 | Confucius was a bad motherfucker. | 孔子是个坏蛋 |
| 2964 | He was. | 他曾经是。 |
| 2965 | That's a crazy one. | 真疯狂 |
| 2966 | That was a great one. | 真不错 |
| 2967 | Or another one is next time you get sick, | 或者另一个是下次你生病的时候 |
| 2968 | because everybody gets sick every now and then. | 因为每个人偶尔都会生病 |
| 2969 | It's like a happy person wants 10,000 things. | 如欢喜者欲得一万事. |
| 2970 | A sick person just wants one thing. | 一个病人只想要一件事 |
| 2971 | So it's your unlimited desires that are clouding your peace, | 所以,这是你的无限欲望 模糊你的和平, |
| 2972 | your happiness. | 你的快乐 |
| 2973 | Have desires. | 拥有欲望 |
| 2974 | Your biological creature stands up and says, | 你的生物站起来说 |
| 2975 | I can do something. | 我可以做点什么 |
| 2976 | I move, I resist, I live. | 我移动,我反抗,我活着。 |
| 2977 | But just be very careful of your desires. | 不过要小心你的欲望 |
| 2978 | This is the oldest, most trite wisdom. | 这是最古老最古老的智慧 |
| 2979 | Desire is suffering. | 欲望是苦难。 |
| 2980 | That's what it means, right? | 这就是它的意思,对不对? |
| 2981 | Every desire you have is an access where you will suffer. | 你拥有的每一个愿望 都是你将遭受痛苦的通道 |
| 2982 | So just don't focus on more than one desire at a time. | 所以一次不要只关注一个以上的欲望. |
| 2983 | The universe is rigged in such a way | 宇宙就是这样被操纵的 |
| 2984 | that if you just want one thing and you focus on that, | 如果你只想要一件事 并且专注于这一点, |
| 2985 | you'll get it. | 你会得到它。 |
| 2986 | But everything else, you got to let go. | 但其他一切,你必须放手。 |
| 2987 | Did you make a gradual shift to happiness | 你是否逐渐向幸福转变 |
| 2988 | or was it a radical change? | 还是根本的改变? |
| 2989 | It's ongoing. | 正在进行中. |
| 2990 | It's gradual. | 渐渐. |
| 2991 | Every day gets better. | 每天都会好起来 |
| 2992 | So you're happier today than you were a month ago. | 所以你今天比一个月前更快乐 |
| 2993 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2994 | Allegedly. | 据称 |
| 2995 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2996 | Yeah, I'm very happy these days. | 是啊,我很高兴这些天。 |
| 2997 | Deliriously so. | 难以置信 |
| 2998 | It's actually hard for me to hang out with normal people. | 其实我很难和普通人在一起 |
| 2999 | Really? | 真的吗? |
| 3000 | So you've made a significant shift | 所以,你做了一个重大的转变 |
| 3001 | over the period of like how many years? | 多少年时间? |
| 3002 | Probably about eight years. | 大概有八年时间吧 |
| 3003 | Eight years? | 八年吗? |
| 3004 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 3005 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 3006 | And is this something that you've pursued through certain books | 这是你通过一些书来追求的 |
| 3007 | or is it just like you've made an understanding | 还是你已经理解了 |
| 3008 | or gained an understanding in your own mind | 或自觉了解 |
| 3009 | and then started pursuing it based on that understanding? | 然后根据这个理解开始追求它? |
| 3010 | Yeah, it's very, very personal. | 是啊,这是非常,非常私人。 |
| 3011 | It's basically you have to decide it's a priority. | 基本上,你必须决定它是一个优先事项。 |
| 3012 | And then I tried every hack I possibly could. | 然后,我尝试了每一个我可能可以的黑客。 |
| 3013 | I used to, you know, I tried all the... | 我以前,你知道,我试过所有... |
| 3014 | I tried meditation. | 我试着冥想 |
| 3015 | I tried witnessing. | 我试着去见证 |
| 3016 | You know, I even tried an SSRI just to see what it would feel like. | 你知道,我甚至尝试过SSRI 只是看看它会是什么感觉。 |
| 3017 | How did it feel? | 感觉怎么样? |
| 3018 | It was... | 这是... |
| 3019 | It turned me from a pessimist to an optimist, | 它把我从悲观派变成了乐观派 |
| 3020 | but I didn't like the physical side effects | 但我不喜欢物理副作用 |
| 3021 | nor did I want to be on a drug-first sustain basis. | 我也不想在药物维持的基础上 |
| 3022 | So I dropped it. | 所以我放弃了 |
| 3023 | It did turn you into an optimist. | 它确实把你变成了乐观主义者。 |
| 3024 | Yes. | 对 |
| 3025 | At the time I used to be a pessimist, yeah. | 以前我是一个悲观主义者,是的。 |
| 3026 | I started doing things like I would start looking at the... | 我开始做一些事情 就像我会开始看着... |
| 3027 | You know, in every moment and everything that happens, | 你知道,在每一刻和每一件事发生, |
| 3028 | you can look on the bright side of something, right? | 你可以看好的一面的东西,对不对? |
| 3029 | And so I used to do that forcibly | 所以我经常强迫我 |
| 3030 | and then I trained it until it became second nature. | 然后我训练它直到它变成第二大自然。 |
| 3031 | So for example, like a friend of mine, | 比如说 像我的朋友一样 |
| 3032 | My wife's was over and she, when we were dating and she took all these photos, she took like | 我妻子的结束了,她, 当我们约会, 她拍了所有这些照片,她喜欢 |
| 3033 | hundreds of photos and then she sends them all to us and my immediate reaction was like, | 几百张照片,然后她把它们都寄给我们 而我立即的反应是, |
| 3034 | why are you dumping hundreds of photos on my phone? | 你为什么把几百张照片扔到我手机上? |
| 3035 | I don't need hundreds of photos. | 我不需要几百张照片。 |
| 3036 | Have some judgment. | 有一点判断力。 |
| 3037 | That was my immediate reaction. | 这是我立即的反应。 |
| 3038 | And then I could say, actually, how nice of her. | 然后,我可以说,实际上, 多好她。 |
| 3039 | She sent me hundreds of photos. | 她给我发了几百张照片 |
| 3040 | I can pick the one that I like, right? | 我可以选我喜欢的,对吧? |
| 3041 | There are two ways of seeing almost everything. | 有两种方式可以看到几乎一切。 |
| 3042 | There are a few things that are like high suffering, so you can't do that other than | 有一些事情是像高 痛苦,所以你不能这样做 除了 |
| 3043 | just saying, well, this is a teacher, right? | 我只是说,这是老师,对吧? |
| 3044 | But I slowly worked through every negative judgment that I had until I saw the positive | 但我慢慢地通过 每一个负面的判断 直到我看到积极的 |
| 3045 | and now it's second nature to me. | 现在对我来说,这是第二大自然。 |
| 3046 | I also realized that like what you want is you want to clear minds. | 我也意识到 就像你想的一样... ...你想要清除思想。 |
| 3047 | You want to let go of thoughts. | 欲释思惟. |
| 3048 | Happy thoughts disappear out of head automatically. | 快乐的想法会自动消失 |
| 3049 | Very easy to let go of them. | 很容易放过他们 |
| 3050 | Negative thoughts linger. | 消极的想法 停留。 |
| 3051 | So if you interpret the positive in everything very quickly, you let it go, right? | 所以,如果你解释的正面 在一切非常迅速, 你让它去,对不对? |
| 3052 | You let it go much faster. | 你让它走得更快 |
| 3053 | Simple hacks get more sunlight, right? | 简单的黑客 得到更多的阳光,对不对? |
| 3054 | Learn to smile more, learn to hug more. | 学多笑,学多抱. |
| 3055 | These things actually release serotonin in reverse. | 这些东西会反向释放血清素 |
| 3056 | They aren't just outward signals of being happy. | 他们不只是快乐的外向信号 |
| 3057 | They're actually feedback loops to being happy. | 他们其实是回馈循环 快乐。 |
| 3058 | Spend more time in nature. | 花更多的时间在大自然。 |
| 3059 | You know, these are obvious. | 你知道,这些很明显。 |
| 3060 | Watch your mind. | 小心点 |
| 3061 | Watch your mind all day long. | 当心一日. |
| 3062 | Watch what it does. | 观其功德. |
| 3063 | Not judge it, not try to control it, but you can meditate 24-7. | 不是判断它,不是试图控制它, 但你可以冥想24 -7。 |
| 3064 | Meditation is not a sit down, close your eyes activity. | 冥想不是坐下来 闭上眼睛 |
| 3065 | Meditation is just basically watching your own thoughts like you would watch anything | 冥想基本上是在观察你自己的想法 就像你什么都看一样 |
| 3066 | else in the outside world and say, why am I having that thought? | 说,为什么我会有这种想法? |
| 3067 | Does that serve me anymore? | 这对我有用吗? |
| 3068 | Is that conditioning from when I was 10 years old? | 那是我10岁那年的条件吗? |
| 3069 | Like for example, getting ready for this podcast. | 例如,为这个播客做好准备。 |
| 3070 | You got ready? | 你准备好了吗? |
| 3071 | I didn't. | 我没有。 |
| 3072 | Oh, good. | 哦,不错。 |
| 3073 | I did. | 没错 |
| 3074 | 但我确实做了 But I did. | |
| 3075 | I couldn't help it. | 我没办法 |
| 3076 | And what happened was the few days leading up to this, my mind was just running. | 发生的事情是 几天前的事, 我的思想只是运行。 |
| 3077 | And normally my mind is pretty calm and it was just running and running and running. | 通常我的思想相当平静 它只是运行,运行和运行。 |
| 3078 | And every thought I would have, I would imagine me saying it to you. | 我每想一想,都会想到我跟你说的 |
| 3079 | My brain couldn't help but rehearse what it's doing. | 我的大脑无法不排练它在做什么。 |
| 3080 | It's just rehearsing all the time to talk to you. | 只是不停地排练 和你说话。 |
| 3081 | And then I was even rehearsing, telling you about the rehearsal. | 然后我甚至排练 告诉你排练的事 |
| 3082 | Right? | 对吧? |
| 3083 | So I was all playing all these meta games and I was just like, shut up, stop it. | 所以我一直在玩这些元游戏 我就像,闭嘴,停下来。 |
| 3084 | What is going on? | 这是怎么回事? |
| 3085 | And it took me a while to figure out, oh yeah, you know what it is? | 我花了好一阵子才弄明白 你知道这是什么吗? |
| 3086 | When I was a kid in Queens and I had no money and I had nothing and I needed to save myself, | 当我还是个孩子在皇后区 而我没有钱 我什么都没有 我需要拯救自己 |
| 3087 | the way I got out was by sounding smart, not being smart, sounding smart. | 我走出去的方式是 发声聪明, 不是发声聪明,发声聪明。 |
| 3088 | That was the skill I perfected. | 这是我所完善的技能。 |
| 3089 | So I am hardwired to always rehearse things so I will sound smart. | 所以我很努力地 总是排练一些事情,这样我就会听起来很聪明。 |
| 3090 | It's a disease. | 谓之病. |
| 3091 | It keeps me from being happy. | 这让我无法快乐 |
| 3092 | But when you see that, when you realize that, when you understand something, then it naturally | 但当你看到这一点, 当你意识到, 当你明白一些东西, 然后自然的 |
| 3093 | calms you down. | 让你冷静下来。 |
| 3094 | So after that, I stopped rehearsing as much, but it's still a train habit. | 之后,我停止了同样的排练,但这仍然是火车习惯. |
| 3095 | That is a really interesting point that you want to sound smart. | 这是一个非常有趣的问题,你想听起来很聪明。 |
| 3096 | That many people do that and especially young people. | 很多人这样做,特别是年轻人。 |
| 3097 | When you see someone who is smart or someone who appears smart, they say smart things, | 当你看到一个聪明人或一个看起来聪明的人, 他们说聪明的事情, |
| 3098 | you kind of want to sound smart. | 听起来很聪明 |
| 3099 | I want people to think about me the same way I think about that person. | 我希望人们以我对那个人的同样方式看待我. |
| 3100 | That is my disease. | 这是我的病。 |
| 3101 | That is my feeling. | 这就是我的感觉。 |
| 3102 | It is what clutters my mind. | 这让我心烦意乱 |
| 3103 | The thing I have to ask myself now is, would I still be interested in learning this thing | 我现在要问的是,我是否仍然有兴趣学习这个东西 |
| 3104 | if I couldn't ever tell anybody about it? | 如果我永远不能告诉任何人吗? |
| 3105 | That's how I know it's real. | 故知是实. |
| 3106 | That's how I know it's something I actually want to know. | 所以我知道这是我真正想知道的 |
| 3107 | That's a common thing though. | 虽然这很常见 |
| 3108 | I know I suffered from that when I was young, the desire to sound smart. | 我知道我在年轻时受了苦 渴望听起来很聪明 |
| 3109 | It's very common. | 甚为常见. |
| 3110 | All of us start out, everything you're a winner now in your life, it's because you were a | 我们所有人从头开始 所有你现在的胜利 都是因为你是一个 |
| 3111 | loser at some point. | 失败者在某些时候。 |
| 3112 | If you had gotten all the girls, if you had all the money, if you had everything you want, | 如果你得到了所有的女孩, 如果你拥有所有的钱, 如果你有你想要的一切, |
| 3113 | you were good looking in junior high or high school, you wouldn't have done anything with | 在初中或高中,你长的不错,你不会做任何事情 |
| 3114 | ネ | |
| 3115 | And you would have peaked early. | 你会早点登顶 |
| 3116 | It's like the Bruce Springsteen, Glory Days song. | 如"布鲁斯·斯普林斯滕","荣耀日"等歌曲. |
| 3117 | You would have married your high school sweetheart, you'd be living in your hometown, you'd be | 你会嫁给你的高中甜心, 你会住在你的家乡,你会 |
| 3118 | a manager at the local McDonald's, whatever the first dream job you had. | 当地麦当劳的经理,不管你有什么梦想工作 |
| 3119 | Thank God we didn't all get what we wanted when we were young, or we would be trapped | 谢天谢地,我们年轻时没有得到我们想要的 否则我们会被困住 |
| 3120 | in that. | 在那个。 |
| 3121 | So you have to be able to break out of where you came from. | 故须能解脱出家. |
| 3122 | I don't know where I was going. | 不知所向处. |
| 3123 | That is interesting too about people who peak too early. | 对于过早登顶的人来说,这也很有趣。 |
| 3124 | Or maybe those people that peak too early can do the Elon Musk thing and just abandon | 也许那些太早登顶的人 可以做伊隆·穆斯克的事 然后放弃 |
| 3125 | it and start something new and then learn the joys of sucking at something. | 然后学习吸东西的快乐 |
| 3126 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 3127 | And actually in our profession, especially when you're high visibility, the problem with | 而实际上在我们的职业, 尤其是当你是高知名度, |
| 3128 | peaking is that you then get drowned in death of a thousand cuts. | 峰值是... ...你被一千刀砍死后淹死了 |
| 3129 | People have expectations of you. | 人们对你抱有期望 |
| 3130 | Hey Joe, can you come to my event? | 嘿 乔 你能来参加我的活动吗? |
| 3131 | Hey Joe, can you look at my business plan? | 嘿,乔,你能看看我的业务计划吗? |
| 3132 | Hey Joe, can you give me advice on this? | 嘿,乔,你能给我建议吗? |
| 3133 | Can you talk to my friend? | 你能和我朋友谈谈吗? |
| 3134 | Can you come in this podcast? | 你能进来播客吗? |
| 3135 | You're just being assaulted all the time with inbound opportunities. | 你只是经常被攻击 机会有限。 |
| 3136 | So you have no time to start over with anything. | 所以你没时间重新开始了 |
| 3137 | So you have to ruthlessly, ruthlessly disappoint everybody, eliminate and clear your schedule, | 所以,你必须无情,无情 失望每个人, 消除和清除你的日程安排, |
| 3138 | drop all the meetings, not even respond to the emails. | 停止所有会议, 甚至不回复电子邮件。 |
| 3139 | The only way you're going to be able to start over with anything. | 唯能从一切法起. |
| 3140 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 3141 | And I, we talked about this and I love your approach to meetings, that they're not life | 我,我们谈了这个 我喜欢你对会议的态度, 他们不是生活 |
| 3142 | or death. | 或死伤。 |
| 3143 | I have the same way. | 我也一样 |
| 3144 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 3145 | I avoided a good one recently and this was someone that was just tracking me down as | 最近我避开了一个好人 这个人只是跟踪我 |
| 3146 | a high profile person at a big organization. | 一个大组织里高知名度的人 |
| 3147 | And I'm like, can we just talk on the phone? | и酵酵盾 |
| 3148 | And then we talked on the phone, there was nothing to say. | 然后我们通过电话谈, 没什么好说的。 |
| 3149 | It was just, they wanted to get me in the office. | 只是,他们想把我带到办公室 |
| 3150 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 3151 | And the meetings should really be phone calls. | 会面应该就是电话 |
| 3152 | Phone calls should be emails and emails should just be texts. | 电话应该是电子邮件,电子邮件应该是短信。 |
| 3153 | Many of them, right? | 很多,对不对? |
| 3154 | With meetings, I mean, I despise meetings. | 有会议,我的意思是,我鄙视会议。 |
| 3155 | 我曾经拥有idontdocoffee.com的域名. | |
| 3156 | I eventually let it go, but I used to respond from the wallet, I don't do coffee, you know. | 我最终让它走了, 但我过去从钱包里回应, 我不做咖啡,你知道的。 |
| 3157 | Oh, that's hilarious. | 哦,这太好笑了。 |
| 3158 | It was a little bit of a jerk move. | 这是一个有点混蛋的举动。 |
| 3159 | But really where it comes from is when I was young, one of my principles was I knew I had | 但真正来源于我年轻的时候 我的原则之一是我知道我有 |
| 3160 | to make money. | 赚钱。 |
| 3161 | It was my overwhelming desire. | 这是我压倒性的愿望。 |
| 3162 | And one of the things I did was I said, okay, I'm never going to be worth more than what | 我所做的一件事是,我说, 好吧,我永远不会比什么更值钱 |
| 3163 | I think I'm worth. | 我觉得我值得 |
| 3164 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 3165 | No one's going to pay me more than what I think I'm worth. | 没人会比我想象的值钱还多 |
| 3166 | So what am I worth? | 我值多少钱? |
| 3167 | So I picked an hourly rate for myself that I was worth. | 于是我为自己选了一个计时的价钱 |
| 3168 | And I said, I'm never going to squander my time for less than this. | 我说,我不会浪费我的时间 少于这个。 |
| 3169 | So if originally it was 500 bucks an hour, then I upgrade to 5,000 bucks an hour and | 所以如果最初是每小时500美元, 然后我提升到每小时5000美元, |
| 3170 | it's ludicrous. | 这是可笑的。 |
| 3171 | But pick an aspirational hourly rate, aspirational, it has to be a little ludicrous. | 但是,选择一个愿望的小时率,愿望率,必须有点可笑. |
| 3172 | And then what I would do is if I have to return something, I'm standing in line to return | 然后我会做的是,如果我必须归还的东西, 我站在排队回来。 |
| 3173 | something and it's below my hourly rate, I'll throw it away. | 低于我每小时的价钱 我就把它扔掉 |
| 3174 | If I have to, or give it away, if I have to do some task and I can hire somebody to do | 如果有必要的话,或者把它送人 如果我必须做一些工作 我可以雇人去做 |
| 3175 | it for less than my hourly rate, I would hire them. | 我按小时计费,我会雇他们 |
| 3176 | And so I just became extremely jealous of my time, which doesn't mean you can't have | 所以,我只是变得非常嫉妒我的时间, 这并不意味着你不能有 |
| 3177 | fun, rest, leisure, spending time with your friends and family. | 好玩,休息,闲暇, 花时间与你的朋友和家人。 |
| 3178 | That's all great. | 这一切都很好。 |
| 3179 | Don't count that. | 别数了 |
| 3180 | But if you're doing anything you don't want to do, which is the definition of work, it's | 但如果你做了你不想做的事 这就是工作的定义 |
| 3181 | a set of things that you have to do that you don't want to do. | 一系列你必须做的事情,你不想做的事。 |
| 3182 | If you're working, it better be for your hourly rate, otherwise don't do the work. | 如果你在工作,最好是按小时计费,否则就别工作了. |
| 3183 | And so once it came out of that, then I just realized the cost of meetings, the cost of | 因此,一旦它出来, 然后我才意识到会议的成本, |
| 3184 | meetings is so high, especially given all the people who are in there, right? | 会议是如此高, 特别是考虑到所有的人 在那里,对不对? |
| 3185 | One person is talking, seven people listening, you're literally just dying an hour at a time. | 一个人说话,七个人听, 你只是一个小时的死亡。 |
| 3186 | So you have to just drop non-urgent meetings or figure out how to be more efficient with | 所以你必须放弃非紧急会议 或者想办法提高工作效率 |
| 3187 | them. | 他们。 |
| 3188 | If you're going to do anything, great. | 如果你要做什么,伟大的。 |
| 3189 | The extreme example is business travel, getting on a plane to fly half around the world for | 极端的例子就是商业旅行 搭上飞机飞到世界各地 |
| 3190 | one meeting, which never amounts to anything. | 只开一次会议,就等于什么 |
| 3191 | And then like wasting your whole little life there and then flying back. | 然后喜欢浪费你的全部生命 在那里,然后飞回来。 |
| 3192 | So about five years ago, I resolved I am never going to travel for business and I haven't | 所以大约五年前,我决定 我永远不会去出差 我没有 |
| 3193 | traveled for business since I only travel if the travel experience will be so entertaining | 出差旅行,因为我只有旅行经验如此有趣 |
| 3194 | and joyous because I have friends or it's a place I want to see or whatever, that it | 和欢乐 因为我有朋友 或者这是一个地方 我想看到什么的, |
| 3195 | will be complete in and of itself because I know that whatever the business meeting | 将完全本身,因为我知道 无论商务会议 |
| 3196 | I came from is never worth it. | 我从来不值得 |
| 3197 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 3198 | And actually that principle applies larger than just travel. | 而实际上,这个原则 应用的不仅仅是旅行。 |
| 3199 | It applies to life in general. | 它适用于一般的生活。 |
| 3200 | One of the secrets to happiness is to really embrace what you're doing in that moment. | 幸福的一个秘密就是真正拥抱你在那一刻正在做的事情. |
| 3201 | That's trite. | 这太老套了 |
| 3202 | But where that comes from is saying, I only want to do actions that are complete in and | 但从哪里说,我只想做一些 完全在和 |
| 3203 | of themselves, right? | 他们自己,对不对? |
| 3204 | If I'm looking for some ulterior motive down the line, it's not going to materialize. | 如果我在下面寻找别有用心的动机 那是不可能的 |
| 3205 | And if you think it is, maybe even if it does, it'll be very short-lived. | 如果你认为是,也许即使是,它也会非常短暂。 |
| 3206 | Anything you want in your life, whether it was a car or whether it was a girl or whether | 无论你想要什么 不管是汽车还是女孩 |
| 3207 | it was money, when you got it, a year later, you were back to zero. | 这是钱,当你得到它,一年后, 你回到零。 |
| 3208 | Your brain had hedonically adapted to it and you were looking for the next thing. | 你的脑部被热衷地适应了 你正在寻找接下来的事 |
| 3209 | That's a great statement, hedonically adapted. | 这是一个伟大的声明, 异化改造。 |
| 3210 | That is what happens to people. | 这就是人们的遭遇。 |
| 3211 | You get accustomed to whatever it is. | 你习惯它是什么。 |
| 3212 | I realized that when I first got a new apartment. | 我第一次买新公寓的时候就意识到了 |
| 3213 | It was a nice apartment. | 公寓不错 |
| 3214 | After a while, I got used to it. | 后来,我习惯了 |
| 3215 | I was like, oh, okay. | 我当时想,哦,好吧。 |
| 3216 | This is just an apartment. | 这只是一个公寓。 |
| 3217 | This is just where I live. | 这就是我住的地方。 |
| 3218 | I'm used to it. | 我习惯了 |
| 3219 | It's nice, but I'm used to it. | 不错,但我习惯了 |
| 3220 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 3221 | We all go through this learning. | 我们都经过这个学习。 |
| 3222 | It's, you know, it's riding the ferris wheel of life. | 谓 乘无量寿轮. |
| 3223 | It's like you get at the bottom, like, oh, I want to get to the top. | 这就像你得到的底部, 像,哦,我想得到的顶部。 |
| 3224 | This is so exciting. | 这太刺激了 |
| 3225 | You ride it up. | 你骑它上去。 |
| 3226 | You get a little dopamine rush and get a little serotonin. | 你得到一点多巴胺 和得到一点血清素。 |
| 3227 | Then you ride it back down as that wears off. | 然后,你骑它回来 因为它磨损。 |
| 3228 | Then you need another high. | 那你需要再高一点 |
| 3229 | Then you ride it back up. | 然后你骑它回来。 |
| 3230 | You ride it back down. | 你骑它回来。 |
| 3231 | In fact, the more highs you get, the harder it gets to go around the wheel and the more | 事实上,你得到的越高, 它越难绕过轮子,越多 |
| 3232 | bored you get of it, the harder it goes to go back up. | 无聊的你得到它, 它越难回升。 |
| 3233 | So what lights your fire now? | 那么,什么点燃你的火吗? |
| 3234 | Like what, what gets you motivated to do things and to act art art? | 比如说,什么让你有动力 做事情和艺术? |
| 3235 | This is art. | 这是艺术。 |
| 3236 | Oh, okay. | 哦,还好。 |
| 3237 | Art is just creativity. | 艺术只是创造力。 |
| 3238 | It's just anything that's done for its own sake. | 一切如来自在功德. |
| 3239 | So what are the things that are done for their own sake? | 那么,为了自己而做的事情是什么? |
| 3240 | There's nothing beyond loving somebody, creating something, playing art. | 除了爱一个人 创造东西 玩艺术 没有什么比这更重要了 |
| 3241 | To me, creating businesses is play. | 对我来说,创建企业是游戏。 |
| 3242 | I create businesses early stage because it's fun, because I'm into the product. | 我创办企业很早,因为它很有趣, 因为我喜欢这个产品。 |
| 3243 | Even when I invest, it's because I like the people, I like hanging out with them. | 即使我投资, 是因为我喜欢人们, 我喜欢和他们在一起。 |
| 3244 | I learn from them and I think the product is really cool. | 我从他们身上学到了,我觉得产品真的很酷。 |
| 3245 | So these days I will pass on all kinds of great investments because I'm like, the product's | 因此,现在我会通过各种 伟大的投资 因为我喜欢,产品 |
| 3246 | not interesting. | 一点也不有趣 |
| 3247 | It's boring. | 闷闷不乐. |
| 3248 | I'm not going to learn anything. | 我不会学东西的 |
| 3249 | That's a beautiful luxury. | 真是个漂亮的奢侈品 |
| 3250 | It is a luxury. | 这是奢侈品。 |
| 3251 | Art and learning. | 艺术与学习. |
| 3252 | It is a luxury. | 这是奢侈品。 |
| 3253 | These are not a hundred percent or zero things, right? | 这些不是百分之百的或是零的 对吧? |
| 3254 | You can in your life start moving more and more towards that. | 你可以在你的生活中开始 越来越朝着这个方向发展。 |
| 3255 | Right, but it's a goal. | 是的,但这是一个目标。 |
| 3256 | It's a goal. | 这是一个目标。 |
| 3257 | When I was younger, I used to be so desperate to make money that I would have done anything. | 年轻时,我经常急于赚钱,不惜一切代价. |
| 3258 | If you'd shown up and said, hey, I got a sewage trucking business and you're going to go into | 如果你出现 并说,嘿,我有一个 污水卡车业务 你要去进入 |
| 3259 | that. | 那个 |
| 3260 | I was like, great, let's do it. | 我很喜欢,很好,让我们做到这一点。 |
| 3261 | I'm going to make money. | 赚得个甚么. |
| 3262 | Thank God no one gave me that opportunity. | 谢天谢地没人给我机会 |
| 3263 | I'm glad that it went down the road of technology and science, which I genuinely enjoy. | 我很高兴它走在了科技的道路上, 我真正享受它。 |
| 3264 | And so I got to combine my vocation and my avocation. | 所以我把职业和事业结合起来 |
| 3265 | I mean, what are you doing? | 我是说,你在做什么? |
| 3266 | You're playing. | 你在玩游戏 |
| 3267 | You're having fun. | 你玩得很开心 |
| 3268 | You're doing art. | 你在做艺术。 |
| 3269 | You're not. | 你没有。 |
| 3270 | You're not working. | 你没有工作。 |
| 3271 | No. | 没有 |
| 3272 | That's what I always say when people say I work hard. | 当人们说我努力工作时,我总是这么说. |
| 3273 | I'm like, sort of. | 我很喜欢,有点。 |
| 3274 | Not really. | 没有 |
| 3275 | I'm always working, but it looks like work to them, but it feels like play to me. | 我总是在工作,但他们看起来像工作, 但感觉就像玩我。 |
| 3276 | And that's how I know no one can compete with me on it, because I'm just playing 16 hours | 所以我知道没有人能和我竞争 因为我只是在玩16小时 |
| 3277 | a day. | 一天时间 |
| 3278 | And if they want to compete with me and they're going to work, they're going to lose because | 如果他们想和我竞争 并且他们要工作, 他们会输,因为 |
| 3279 | they're not going to do it 16 hours a day, seven days a week. | 他们不会每天16小时 每周7天 |
| 3280 | Listen, man, there are some gems of wisdom in this conversation and I hope people pull | 听着,男人,有一些 智慧的宝石在这个谈话 我希望人们拉 |
| 3281 | things out of this and apply them to their own life. | 把这些东西运用到自己的生活中 |
| 3282 | And I'm certainly going to listen to you again and try to apply some of this to my own life, | 我肯定会再听你的 尝试用一些 在我的生活中, |
| 3283 | stuff that I'm not already applying. | 我还没申请的 |
| 3284 | But I really appreciate your time and I really appreciate you coming in here. | 但我真的很感激你的时间 我真的很感激你来到这里。 |
| 3285 | Thanks for having me. | 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 3286 | And please tell people, your small little podcast is just the Naval podcast, right? | 请告诉大家,你的小播客 只是海军播客,对不对? |
| 3287 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 3288 | Best way to find me is on Twitter, actually. | 事实上,找到我的最佳方式是在Twitter上。 |
| 3289 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 3290 | I'm just at Naval. | 我只是在海军。 |
| 3291 | Then I have a website at nav.al. | 然后,我有一个网站 在导航。 |
| 3292 | I have a YouTube channel, Naval, and I have a podcast, Naval. | 我有一个YouTube频道,海军, 我有一个播客,海军。 |
| 3293 | That's it. | 就这样 |
| 3294 | Well, thank you very much. | 非常感谢 |
| 3295 | I really appreciate it. | 我真的很感谢你 |
| 3296 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 3297 | Bye everybody. | 再见 |
| 3298 | Bye-bye. | 再见 |
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