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大学,正在杀死‘自由思想’吗?

大学,正在杀死‘自由思想’吗?

大学,正在杀死‘自由思想’吗?

发布于 2026-10-04 · 时长 10:29

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0:06We're now going to discuss some of the questions underlying today's core idea.我们现在要讨论今天核心思想的一些问题。
0:12The first one is the question of is there an objective truth in the first place anyway第一个问题是 到底有没有客观的真相
0:17or is it a question of perspective and that will then underline I think some of the questions或者这是个视角问题 然后我要强调一些问题
0:22of freedom that we have been discussing that we'll move on to in a moment.我们一直在讨论的自由, 我们将在一瞬间继续前进。
0:26So Tommy, could I start with you?汤米,我可以从你开始吗?
0:28Is there in fact an objective truth?事实是否客观?
0:30Nice small question for a Friday afternoon.周五下午有个小问题
0:33I mean if you mean an objective truth that's eternal, that we have knowledge of, I would我的意思是,如果你是指一个客观的真理 这是永恒的,我们知道,我会
0:39say even if it did exist we don't have the perspective or the perception of what it could说即使它存在,我们没有 观点或感知它可以
0:43be.将。
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1We're now going to discuss some of the questions underlying today's core idea.我们现在要讨论今天核心思想的一些问题。
2The first one is the question of is there an objective truth in the first place anyway第一个问题是 到底有没有客观的真相
3or is it a question of perspective and that will then underline I think some of the questions或者这是个视角问题 然后我要强调一些问题
4of freedom that we have been discussing that we'll move on to in a moment.我们一直在讨论的自由, 我们将在一瞬间继续前进。
5So Tommy, could I start with you?汤米,我可以从你开始吗?
6Is there in fact an objective truth?事实是否客观?
7Nice small question for a Friday afternoon.周五下午有个小问题
8I mean if you mean an objective truth that's eternal, that we have knowledge of, I would我的意思是,如果你是指一个客观的真理 这是永恒的,我们知道,我会
9say even if it did exist we don't have the perspective or the perception of what it could说即使它存在,我们没有 观点或感知它可以
10be.将。
11So we can have tentative truths like things that we posit as being probabilistically true所以,我们可以有 暂时的真理 像事物,我们假设 概率是真实的
12or things that tend not to change shape as easily as falsehoods, but that's the best或那些不会像虚伪那样轻易改变形状的东西
13that we can get to.我们可以去。
14I think that part of the issue is this claim to objective truth.我认为,问题的一部分是声称真相是客观的。
15The idea that we've had an absolute that only certain people can intuit or certain这个想法,我们有一个绝对的 只有某些人可以直观或确定
16people can have access to is largely the problem both of our narrow disciplines, our Eurocentric人可以进入 主要是我们狭隘的学科的问题 我们的欧洲中心
17education, our misunderstanding of the construction of civilization itself, ultimately the erroneous教育,我们对文明建设本身的误解,最终是错误的
18pursuits that we engage that lead us to replace say issues of finding truth with our most我们参与的事业 导致我们用我们最
19convenient political ideology of the day.今天的政治意识形态
20Would you not to steal words from Kathleen's mouth and I would in fact make sure that she你能不能别从凯瑟琳嘴里偷话 而我会确保她
21gets to ask this question in her own terms in just 30 seconds, but in terms of objective只需30秒 就能用她自己的语言来问这个问题 但就客观而言
22truth is this something that's a particular problem with the social sciences and humanities真理是社会科学和人文科学 一个特别的问题
23or is it something that we should be looking to all forms of knowledge, all kinds of epistemic或者这是我们应该寻找的 各种形式的知识, 各种各样的概论
24conversation?谈话?
25Well I think when you get to some of the hard sciences there's an understanding that scientific我认为当你进入一些硬科学 有一个理解,科学
26methodology leads to probabilistic truths, things that can be overturned with new findings.方法导致概率真理, 事物可以被新发现推翻。
27The problem in humanities largely, you know this is kind as well, right, and the idea人文学科的问题 基本上,你知道 这是善良的,正确的,和想法
28that we're constructing and trying to pursue knowledge often we take shortcuts because我们构建并试图追求知识 我们经常采取捷径 因为
29the moralization of what we take to be the right or the good supplants our methodological我们的道德化是正确 或好的取代我们的方法
30rigor.刚强。
31So I can study race and my idea before I even look at the society is we should include and这样我就能在研究种族和我的主意 之前,我甚至看看社会是我们应该包括
32integrate everyone.融合每个人。
33Well is that the best thing to solve racial or ethnic differences in a given society?那么,这是解决某一社会种族或族裔差异的最佳办法吗?
34You know that's not always the case.你知道情况并非总是如此。
35So objective truth becomes a very moralistic and politically infused idea given the lack所以客观的真相 成为一个非常道德 和政治上灌输的想法 因为缺乏
36of rigorous testing and verifiability of the humanities and social sciences which is something对人文科学和社会科学进行严格的测试和核查
37that I don't think the hard sciences necessarily suffer on because there's a kind of falsifiability我并不认为硬科学会受苦 因为有种易腐性
38in their theories.在他们的理论。
39And Kathleen, I know you're going to be speaking later on in fact about your book Material凯瑟琳 我知道你以后会说起你的书
40Girls but of course part of the controversy you were involved in at Sussex was the question女孩们,当然你卷入了苏塞克斯的争议 也是问题所在
41of what can and cannot be debated as objective truth, in that case particularly in the case作为客观事实可以和不能辩论的内容,特别是
42of biology.生物学
43Yeah, I mean the questions posed I think misleadingly it's an opposition.是的,我的意思是所提出的问题 我认为它是一个反对。
44There is truth, it's objective and perspectival, I mean it's both.有真理,这是客观的和可视的,我的意思是两者兼而有之.
45You're never going to get you know very very perspective neutral objectivity because we你永远不会得到你知道非常 视角中立的客观性,因为我们
46are human beings with differing perceptual faculties, however there are clearly some有不同认知能力的人,但显然有一些
47very stupid and wrong answers and we can definitely eliminate quite a lot of things and even where非常愚蠢和错误的答案 我们绝对可以消除很多事情 甚至哪里
48you admit that truth is perspectival it's not up to me, you know it's not totally arbitrary你承认真相是可视性的 这不由我决定
49or keyed into individuals, it's shared perspectives derived through cultural or social means.或按到个人, 它是通过文化或社会手段产生的共同观点。
50So you can still find out about those and you can try and make inferences about what所以,你仍然可以发现 关于这些 你可以尝试和推论
51contribution the social has and what contribution the natural has and where the universities社会贡献、自然贡献和大学的所在地
52often have gone wrong in humanities is taking away the natural and thinking that everything's人文学科经常出错 夺走了自然 认为一切
53up for social kind of construction and that they get to construct it because of course社会性建筑 他们可以建造它,当然
54it's not a coincidence, academics end up in charge of social construction if there's这不是巧合,如果有的话, 学者最终负责社会建设
55no such thing as reality, it puts them at the centre of the universe which is a really没有这样的现实, 它把它们置于宇宙的中心, 这是一个真正的
56powerful position for them to be, although so they think, so they just get to make up他们的地位很强,虽然他们这样想,所以他们只好弥补
57loads of shit and so we need to go back to a more constrained and reasonable social一堆狗屎,所以我们需要回到一个 更受约束和合理的社会
58constructivism which recognises that there are bits of the world that we can do nothing建构主义,它承认 世界上有些地方 我们无能为力
59about and then think about how our own, how our perspectives interact with it.想想我们自己的观点 如何与它互动
60Erin, the 18th century philosopher Leopold von Ranke was unfortunately not available艾琳,18世纪的哲学家利奥波德·冯·兰克 不幸地没有出现
61for the debate today, his agent wasn't returning calls, but he did put forward the idea that今天的辩论 他的经纪人没有回电话 但他确实提出
62you could look at history as something wie es eigentlich gewesen, things as they really你可以把历史看成是东西 eigentlich gewesen, 事情作为真正的
63were, is that actually the kind of objective reality in terms of our interpretation of实际上,这就是我们解释
64the past and present that we could really aspire to or is that just a pipe dream?我们能真正渴望的过去和现在 还是只是空洞的梦?
65Wow, German historiography, I didn't think I'd be, wow.哇,德国神学,我没想到我会是,哇。
66We aim to please.我们的目标是取悦。
67Yeah.对
68It's what the kids want.这是孩子们想要的
69Yeah, that's all they talk about on TikTok, I'm a Marxist so obviously I generally look是啊,这就是他们谈论的TikTok, 我是马克思主义者 所以很明显,我一般看起来
70as the whole quote of man is a social fact and I think the good thing with the scientific人类的引言是社会事实 我认为科学是好事
71method is that it gives us a certain humility like you say about falsifiable data and so方法就是,它给了我们某种谦卑 就像你说的 关于伪造的数据,所以
72on and that quote unquote fact is contingent until further exploration and new studies在进一步探索和进行新研究之前,引文未引用的事实取决于
73and we actually learn even more and I do think there's a certain conceit at the heart of实际上我们学到了更多的东西 而且我确实认为
74the humanity sometimes which doesn't have that humility for quite obvious reasons because人性有时不这么谦卑 原因很明显 因为
75you say it's not often testing falsifiable propositions.你说它不是经常测试 假命题。
76In terms of history, I mean, could you reformulate that?就历史而言,我是说,你能重新解释一下吗?
77So is there a truth content to the historical process?那么,历史进程是否有真理的内容?
78Well, actually, could I do that by just taking something you've just said, I mean, I see好吧,实际上,我可以做到这一点, 只是拿一些你刚刚说, 我的意思是,我明白了
79as a Marxist, you might prefer Hegel to, we should really spend the entire session talking作为一个马克思主义者,你可能更喜欢黑格尔, 我们真的应该花 整个会议谈话
80about 18th century and 19th century philosophy because that is what the audience want.大约18世纪和19世纪的哲学 因为这是观众想要的
81But when you said man is a social fact, you know, again, you could immediately pit back但当你说男人是一个社会事实, 你知道,再次, 你可以立即退缩
82and say, well, now we might say the human is a social fact.说,现在我们可以说 人类是一个社会事实。
83By changing that phrasing, what do we change about the objective reality of the social通过改变措辞,我们如何改变社会客观现实
84fact you want to posit?你想假设吗?
85Very good question.问得好
86That's a very good question.这是一个非常好的问题。
87That should mean that man is a social humans or a social being.这应该意味着,人是一个社会人类或社会人。
88We are social beings and that the forms of existence within which we find ourselves is我们是社会人,而我们所发现的存在形式
89contingent to a certain extent on what he would call the economic base.在某种程度上取决于他所谓的经济基础。
90Now, I don't agree with that entirely.现在,我并不完全同意这一点。
91And I think Stuart Brand comes up with a much more powerful idea called pace layers.我认为斯图尔特·布兰德想出了一个更强大的想法,叫做步态层.
92And this is how the historical process works.历史进程就是这样运作的。
93At the bottom of the pace layer is nature.步道层的底部是自然界.
94Very powerful.非常厉害
95If that goes wrong, the rest of it collapses.如果这是错误的,其余的就会崩溃.
96It could be an extinction level event.这可能是一场灭绝事件。
97It could be a pandemic.这可能是个大流行病。
98But then above the nature pace layer, you have culture, which is clearly contingent.但是,然后在自然节奏层之上, 你有文化, 这显然是偶然的。
99It's changing and it's flexible all the time.其变化且始终灵活.
100And above that, you know, you've got commerce, you've got governance.此外,你知道,你有商业,有治理。
101Of course, these change all the time, too, and what they think is right.当然,这些变化也时常改变,他们认为正确。
102And right at the top, you have fashion, which is incredibly transient and whimsical and而在顶端,你有时尚, 这令人难以置信的短暂和奇异,
103strange is by virtue of what it is constantly.怪异是因为它是常有的。
104And so for me, I would say that clearly the observing the entirety of human existence,因此,对我来说,我要说, 很明显,观察整个人类的存在,
105I think, again, gives you a certain humility around humans as a social fact.我再说一遍,你对人有某种谦卑感 作为社会事实
106We have been around, there were humans anatomically identical to us.我们一直在身边,有人类 解剖上与我们完全相同。
107They were around 300,000 years ago, identical to us.大约在30万年前,和我们一样。
108And then something very strange happens.然后发生了非常奇怪的事情。
109I mean, some people have revisionist views on this, but let's just stick to the science.我的意思是,有些人对此有修正主义观点,但让我们坚持科学.
110So we're not meant to say that, but let's stick to the science.所以,我们不是要这样说,而是要坚持科学.
11112,000 years ago, we get the Neolithic Revolution, agriculture, and off the back of一万二千年前,我们得到了新石器革命, 农业,以及从后面
112agriculture, writing, cities, mathematics, astronomy.农业、写作、城市、数学、天文学
113And now we're here, 2022, electric vehicles, mobile phones, the Internet.而现在我们在这里,2022,电动车辆,手机,互联网.
114So clearly, I am very hesitant for people to categorize and box what it is to be human,很明显,我非常犹豫 人们分类 和包装它是什么是人,
115when clearly we've changed so dramatically.很明显,我们变了这么大
116That's the essence of our humanity.这就是我们人类的本质.
117Cathy?凯茜?
118Yeah, I mean, just to respond to that, it's one thing to say that we've changed and clearly是啊,我的意思是,只是回应, 这是一件事,说我们已经改变和清楚
119we have.我们有。
120But I think for me, the move from man to human was a bit of a mistake because但我觉得从人类到人类的转变有点错误 因为...
121it plugged us in as different from all everything else that lives on the planet.它让我们与地球上所有其它生物 都不同
122Like, we are not like other animals.就像我们不像其他动物一样
123And of course, we are all animals and we are, you know, related to chimps and bonobos.当然,我们都是动物 我们,你知道,与黑猩猩和黑猩猩有关。
124And we have a lot of material facts about us that, especially in the Enlightenment我们有很多关于我们的事实 特别是在启蒙节
125liberal tradition, which goes along with sort of freedom as the guiding metaphor, we自由主义传统,它与某种 自由作为指导的比喻,我们
126want to be free of all that.想要摆脱这一切。
127We don't want to be animals.我们不想成为动物。
128We want to be like in charge of our own destinies and not determined by our genes or our我们想像掌管我们自己的命运 而不是由我们的基因决定
129hormones or whatever.荷尔蒙什么的。
130And that's that narrative in the 21st century is going bonkers.这就是21世纪的叙述 正在变得疯狂。
131And now people want to be free of their own bodies and they want to be free of transhumanism,现在人们想摆脱自己的身体 他们想摆脱人性
132all that stuff.所有的东西。
133So it's nothing wrong with, you know, if it's just a quick transition所以,这没什么错,你知道, 如果这只是一个快速过渡
134from, you know, whatever prehistoric to agricultural revolution.从史前到农业革命
135Fine.还好
136But let's not forget that we are still animals.但我们不要忘记,我们仍然是动物。
137Tell me.告诉我
138Yeah, I mean, these are very difficult questions, right, because the very是啊,我的意思是,这些是非常困难的问题, 对,因为非常
139notion that we have of the human that appeals to biology, right, to the to the dichotomy认为我们有人类 吸引生物学,权利, 吸引二分法
140that's being created between man or human and animal, these are products of certain这些是人类和动物之间的产物
141kinds of worldviews.那种世界观。
142These are very recent notions that didn't exist in indigenous这些是土著中不存在的最近的概念。
143African, even at the logical societies in Europe in the 19th century.非洲,甚至19世纪欧洲的逻辑社会.
144So if we're trying to get back to an understanding of what the human is or the way the所以,如果我们试图回到 了解什么是人类或方式
145human moves through history, the question becomes what history and whose history and人类穿越历史, 问题变成了什么历史,谁的历史和
146that that idea that there's somehow a universal grounding by which we could talk about这个想法,不知何故,有一个普遍的基础 我们可以谈论
147the evolution and development of the human is something that I think underlies some of我认为,人类的进化和发展是其中一些因素的基础。
148the nascent social constructionism today, because we're not looking at an interpretive今天新生的社会建构主义, 因为我们不看解释主义
149framework.框架。
150I think about Houston Chamberlain, for instance, right.我想到休斯敦・张伯伦,比如说,正确的。
151You're not going to briefly Houston.休斯敦,你不会简短的
152OK, so Chamberlain is a British guy that's a germaphobe that germaphobe that loved好吧 张伯伦是个英国人 是个喜欢的细菌
153Nazism.纳粹主义。
154But one of the interesting things about him was that he argued that the Teutonic但其中一件有趣的事情是,他争论说,铁托尼人
155people were the ones that were destined to rule the world, whereas, you know, British人们注定要统治世界,而英国人
156Anglo-Saxon people thought they were the ones that were going to rule the world and bring盎格鲁 -撒克逊人认为 他们要统治世界,带来
157reason.理由,我说,
158The reason that's interesting, though, is because it gives you this very same但有趣的原因是 因为它给了你同样的机会
159question about the failures or crises of the 20th century, which group of people that关于20世纪失败或危机的问题,
160define themselves as the original and the most insightful having access to the truth将自己定义为了解真相的原始人和最有见地的人
161get to decide the fate of the world.来决定世界的命运
162And what I fear happens in the Western metaphysical tradition is there are multiple我所担心的是,在西方的物理传统中, 会发生很多
163claims, usually at the racial, where people define what humanity is to the exclusion要求,通常在种族方面, 在那里,人们界定什么是人类 排斥
164of other groups of people.其他人组。
165So that's a really good place to get to the second part of our discussion, which gets因此,这是一个非常好的地方 进入我们的讨论第二部分,
166right to the present day and present day issues.(a) 有权处理今天和今天的问题。
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