【中英】纳瓦尔：关于人性的44个残酷真相（下）
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | Like, oh, we have so much in common. | 我们有很多共同点 |
| 0:02 | We like to golf together. | 我们喜欢一起打高尔夫 |
| 0:03 | It's like, it's not a basis for a relationship. | 这就像,这不是一个关系的基础。 |
| 0:06 | Or, oh, she's a ballerina or he went to Harvard | 或者,哦,她是一个芭蕾舞演员 或者他去了哈佛 |
| 0:09 | or what have you. | 或者你还有什么 |
| 0:10 | This is a resume item. | 这是一个恢复项目。 |
| 0:11 | So that's not who the person actually is. | 所以那人其实不是那个人 |
| 0:12 | What's a better answer? | 什么是更好的答案吗? |
| 0:14 | I just love being with this person. | 我只是喜欢和这个人在一起。 |
| 0:16 | I just trust them. | 我只是相信他们。 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Like, oh, we have so much in common. | 我们有很多共同点 |
| 2 | We like to golf together. | 我们喜欢一起打高尔夫 |
| 3 | It's like, it's not a basis for a relationship. | 这就像,这不是一个关系的基础。 |
| 4 | Or, oh, she's a ballerina or he went to Harvard | 或者,哦,她是一个芭蕾舞演员 或者他去了哈佛 |
| 5 | or what have you. | 或者你还有什么 |
| 6 | This is a resume item. | 这是一个恢复项目。 |
| 7 | So that's not who the person actually is. | 所以那人其实不是那个人 |
| 8 | What's a better answer? | 什么是更好的答案吗? |
| 9 | I just love being with this person. | 我只是喜欢和这个人在一起。 |
| 10 | I just trust them. | 我只是相信他们。 |
| 11 | I enjoy being around them. | 我喜欢在他们身边 |
| 12 | I love how capable he is. | 我喜欢他的能力 |
| 13 | I love how kind she is. | 我喜欢她多好 |
| 14 | I love her spirit. | 我爱她的精神。 |
| 15 | I love his energy. | 我喜欢他的能量 |
| 16 | The more materially and concretely definable | 从物质上和具体上来说,定义越明确 |
| 17 | the reasons are, you're together, the worse they are. | 原因是,你们在一起, 他们越糟糕。 |
| 18 | The ineffable is actually where the sort of true love lies. | 无能者其实是那种真爱所在. |
| 19 | Because real love is a form of unity. | 因为真爱是团结的一种形式. |
| 20 | It's a form of connection. | 一种联系形式. |
| 21 | It's connecting spirits. | 它连接着灵魂 |
| 22 | Oh, you too, my consciousness meets your consciousness. | 哦,你也是,我的意识与你的意识相遇 |
| 23 | It's the underlying drive in love, in art, in science, | 这是爱,艺术,科学, |
| 24 | in mysticism is the desire for unity. | 在神秘主义中,要求团结 |
| 25 | It's a desire for connection. | 谓欲相通. |
| 26 | As Bor has famously wrote, in every human, | 正如博尔著名的写道, 在每个人身上, |
| 27 | there's a sense that something infinite has been lost. | 有一种感觉是 已经失去了无限的东西。 |
| 28 | There's a God-shaped hole in you that you're trying to fill. | 有神形的洞 你试图填补。 |
| 29 | And so we're always trying to find that connection. | 所以我们总是试图找到这种联系。 |
| 30 | Love is trying to find it in one other person | 爱在另一个人身上寻找 |
| 31 | and saying, okay, you're male, I'm female or whatever, | 并说,好吧,你是男性, 我是女性或什么的, |
| 32 | and whatever your predilections are. | 以及你们所妄想的。 |
| 33 | And now we connect, now we form a hole, a connected hole. | 现在我们连接,现在我们组成一个洞,一个连接的洞。 |
| 34 | Or in mysticism, it's all about, okay, sit down, meditate, | 或者在神秘主义中,它的一切, 好吧,坐下,冥想, |
| 35 | and you'll feel the hole. | 你会感觉到那个洞 |
| 36 | In science, it's like, oh, atoms bouncing is mechanics, | 在科学中,它就像, 哦,原子弹跳是力学, |
| 37 | but that generates heat. | 但它会产生热量。 |
| 38 | So thermodynamics and motion or kinetics | 所以热力学和运动或动力学 |
| 39 | are one combined theory. | 是一个综合理论。 |
| 40 | That's a hole. | 这是一个洞。 |
| 41 | Electricity and magnetism are one thing. | 电力和磁性是一回事。 |
| 42 | That's a hole. | 这是一个洞。 |
| 43 | Creates that sense of awe. | 产生这种敬畏感。 |
| 44 | In art, it's like, I feel an emotion. | 在艺术方面,就像,我有一种情感。 |
| 45 | I create a piece of art around it, | 我创作了一幅艺术围绕它, |
| 46 | and then you see that painting, | 然后你看到那幅画, |
| 47 | or you see the Sistine Chapel, | 或者你看到西斯丁礼拜堂, |
| 48 | or you read the poem, and you feel that emotion. | 或者你读了这首诗, 你感觉到了那种情感。 |
| 49 | So again, it's creating unity. | 因此,它再次创造了团结。 |
| 50 | It's creating connection. | 它正在建立连接。 |
| 51 | And I think everybody craves that. | 我想每个人都渴望这个。 |
| 52 | And so when you really love somebody, | 所以当你真正爱的人, |
| 53 | it's because you feel a sense of wholeness | 是因为你觉得自己很完整 |
| 54 | by being around them. | 在他们身边。 |
| 55 | And that sense of wholeness probably doesn't have anything | 和这种整体感 可能没有任何 |
| 56 | to do with what school they went to, | 他们去的学校, |
| 57 | or what career they're in. | 或者他们是什么职业。 |
| 58 | Just sort of tying that into the life is short, | 只是有点束缚 生活是短暂的, |
| 59 | stop fucking about. | 别闹了 |
| 60 | If you're faced with a difficult choice | 如果你面对一个困难的选择 |
| 61 | and you cannot decide, the answer is no. | 而你不能决定,答案是否定的。 |
| 62 | And the reason is modern society is full of options. | 而原因是现代社会充满了选择. |
| 63 | Knowing this rationally sounds great. | 理智地知道这一点听起来很好。 |
| 64 | Having the courage to commit to it in reality, | 有勇气在现实中承诺, |
| 65 | I think is a different task. | 我认为这是一项不同的任务。 |
| 66 | And cutting your losses quickly | 并迅速减少损失 |
| 67 | in the big three, relationships, jobs, and locations, | 在大三,关系,工作和地点, |
| 68 | is hard. | 很难 |
| 69 | What would you say to someone who may cerebrally | 你会怎么对一个 可能会发疯的人说 |
| 70 | be able to agree with you and say, | 能够同意你的话 |
| 71 | I understand the answer is no. | 我知道答案是没有。 |
| 72 | My cousin said this about me. | 我表哥这么说的 |
| 73 | He said what I've really noticed about you | 他说了我注意到你的事 |
| 74 | is your ability to walk away from situations | 就是你摆脱困境的能力 |
| 75 | that are just not great enough for you, | 这对你来说还不够好 |
| 76 | or not good enough for you. | 或者对你不够好 |
| 77 | And I think that is a characteristic that I have. | 我认为这是我的一个特点。 |
| 78 | I will not accept second best outcomes in my life. | 我将不接受我生命中第二好的结果。 |
| 79 | Ultimately, you will end up wherever is acceptable to you. | 归根结底,你将在你可以接受的任何地方结束。 |
| 80 | You will get out of life whatever is acceptable to you. | 你会离开你接受的生活 |
| 81 | And there are certain things to me | 我有些事情要说 |
| 82 | that are very, very important | 这很重要 |
| 83 | where I will not settle for second best. | 在那里,我不会得到第二好。 |
| 84 | But then there are a lot of other things | 但还有很多事情 |
| 85 | I just don't care about. | 我只是不关心。 |
| 86 | Because if I spend all my time caring about those things, | 因为如果我花所有的时间 关心那些东西, |
| 87 | I don't have the energy for the few things that matter. | 我没有精力做那些重要的事情 |
| 88 | And so in decision making, I have a few heuristics | 所以在决策方面,我有一些热病 |
| 89 | for myself, other people can use their own, | 对于我自己,其他人可以使用自己的, |
| 90 | but mine are, if you can't decide, the answer is no. | 但我的,如果你不能决定,答案是否定的。 |
| 91 | If you're offered an opportunity, | 如果你有机会 |
| 92 | if you have a new thing that you're saying yes or no to | 如果你有新的东西说是或否 |
| 93 | that is a change from where you're starting, | 这跟你开始的时候不一样 |
| 94 | the answer is by default, always no. | 答案是默认的,永远没有。 |
| 95 | Secondly, if you have two decisions, | 第二 如果你有两个决定 |
| 96 | if you have A or B and both seem like very equal, | 如果你有A或B 而且两者看起来都非常平等, |
| 97 | take the path that's more painful in the short term. | 走上在短期内更痛苦的道路. |
| 98 | The one that's gonna be painful immediately | 那个会立刻痛苦的 |
| 99 | because your brain is always trying to avoid pain. | 因为你的大脑总是试图避免疼痛。 |
| 100 | So any pain that is imminent, | 所以任何即将发生的痛苦 |
| 101 | it is going to treat as much larger than it actually is. | 它会处理的比实际大得多。 |
| 102 | This is kind of like a decision making equivalent | 这有点像决策 |
| 103 | of talab surgeon. | 塔布外科医生 |
| 104 | Talab surgeon, whether you want the surgeon, | 塔拉布外科医生, 不管你想要外科医生, |
| 105 | it doesn't look as good because he's more likely | 它看起来不是很好,因为他更有可能 |
| 106 | to be a good surgeon. | 做个好外科医生 |
| 107 | Yeah, it's similar in that appearances are deceiving | 是啊,它相似的 在外表是在欺骗 |
| 108 | because you're avoiding conflict, you're avoiding pain. | 因为你避免了冲突, 你避免了痛苦。 |
| 109 | So take the path that's more painful in the short term | 所以,走这条在短期内更痛苦的道路 |
| 110 | because your brain is creating this illusion | 因为你的大脑在制造幻觉 |
| 111 | that the short-term pain is greater than the long-term pain | 短期痛苦比长期痛苦大 |
| 112 | because long-term, yeah, you'll commit your future self | 因为长期,是的, 你会致力于你的未来自己 |
| 113 | to all kinds of long-term pain. | 到各种长期痛苦。 |
| 114 | Manana, manana. | 马纳纳 马纳纳 |
| 115 | Exactly, manana. | 没错,玛娜娜 |
| 116 | So take the more short-term painful one. | 所以,采取更短期的痛苦。 |
| 117 | And then finally, the last one, | 最后,最后一个 |
| 118 | which I would credit Kapil Gupta with, | 我以卡皮尔·古普塔为名 |
| 119 | is that you want to take the choice | 是你想选择 |
| 120 | that will leave you more equanimous in the long-term. | 从长远来看,这会让你更加平和。 |
| 121 | By equanimous, he means like more peace, | 以平和的语气,他的意思是像更多的和平, |
| 122 | more mental peace in the long-term. | 从长远来看 精神上更平静 |
| 123 | So whatever clears your mind more | 所以,无论什么让你更清醒 |
| 124 | and will have you having less self-talk in the future, | 将来你将减少自言自语, |
| 125 | if you can model that out, | 如果你能模拟出来, |
| 126 | that is probably the better route to go. | 那也许是更好的路线 |
| 127 | And then I would focus decision making down | 然后我会集中精力做决定 |
| 128 | on the three things that really matter | 这三件事真的很重要 |
| 129 | because everything else is downstream | 因为其他东西都在下游 |
| 130 | of these three decisions, | 在这三个决定中, |
| 131 | especially these are early life decisions. | 这些是早期的人生决定 |
| 132 | Later in life, you have different things to optimize for, | 后世,你有不同的东西 优化, |
| 133 | but early in life, you're trying to figure out | 不过你很早就想明白 |
| 134 | who you're with, what you're doing, and where you live. | 你和谁在一起,你在做什么,你住在哪里。 |
| 135 | And I think on all three of those, | 我想在所有这些, |
| 136 | you want to think pretty hard about it. | 你想仔细想想 |
| 137 | And people do some of these unconsciously. | 人们会无意识地做一些。 |
| 138 | Who you're with very often is like, | 你经常和谁在一起 |
| 139 | well, we were in a relationship, we stumbled along, | 好吧,我们是在一个关系, 我们偶然相遇, |
| 140 | it felt okay, it had been enough time, | 感觉很好, 已经足够时间, |
| 141 | so we got married, right? | 所以我们结婚了,对不对? |
| 142 | Not great reasons. | 原因并不大 说吧 |
| 143 | Maybe not terrible reasons either. | 也许也不是什么可怕的原因 |
| 144 | I mean, it's people who overthink these things | 我的意思是,是人们 过度思考这些东西 |
| 145 | sometimes don't get the right answer, | 有时候没有正确的答案, |
| 146 | but maybe here, if you're the kind of person | 但也许在这里 如果你是那种人 |
| 147 | that's not going to settle for second best, you iterate. | 这不会解决第二好,你这个意大利人。 |
| 148 | You don't do it on a closed timeframe | 你不能在封闭的时间范围内做 |
| 149 | so you don't run out the clock, and then you decide. | 所以你不跑出时间,然后你决定。 |
| 150 | On what you do, you try a whole bunch of different things | 在你做的事情上,你尝试了一大堆不同的事情 |
| 151 | until you find the one that feels like play to you, | 直到你找到一个 喜欢玩你, |
| 152 | looks like work to others, you can't lose at it. | 看起来像是工作对别人, 你不能输在它。 |
| 153 | Get some leverage, try to find some practical application | 找点筹码,找点实用的 |
| 154 | of it and go into that. | 开始吧 |
| 155 | And then where you live, where you live is really important. | 然后你住的地方,你住的地方 是非常重要的。 |
| 156 | I don't think people spend enough time on that one. | 我觉得人们花的时间不够 |
| 157 | I think people pick cities randomly | 我觉得人们随意选择城市 |
| 158 | based on where I went to school | 根据我在哪里上学 |
| 159 | or where my family happened to be | 或者我的家人碰巧在什么地方 |
| 160 | or where my friend was or I visited one weekend, | 或者我的朋友在哪里 或者我去过一个周末 |
| 161 | I really liked it. | 我真的很喜欢 |
| 162 | You really want to think it through | 你真的想考虑清楚 |
| 163 | because where you live really constrains | 因为你住的地方真的有束缚 |
| 164 | and defines your opportunities. | 并定义你的机会。 |
| 165 | It's going to determine your friend circle. | 这会决定你的朋友圈。 |
| 166 | It's going to determine your dating pool. | 这会决定你的约会池。 |
| 167 | It's going to determine your job opportunities. | 它会决定你的就业机会。 |
| 168 | It's going to determine the food and air | 它会决定食物和空气 |
| 169 | and water quality that you receive. | 以及你们所获得的水质。 |
| 170 | It's going to determine your proximity to your family, | 这会决定你是否接近家人 |
| 171 | which might be important as you get older and have kids. | 当你长大和有孩子的时候 这可能很重要 |
| 172 | So very, very, very important decision, | 所以非常,非常,非常重要的决定, |
| 173 | whether quality of life, | 无论是生活质量, |
| 174 | how much do you stay inside or outside | 你在里面或外面住多少钱? |
| 175 | and how long you'll live based on that. | 以及你在这个基础上活多久 |
| 176 | And I think people choose that one probably more poorly | 我认为人们选择一个可能更糟糕 |
| 177 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}比他们少得多的考虑 | |
| 178 | than the other two. | 比其他两个。 |
| 179 | In some ways, yeah, but also the, you're so right, | 在某些方面,是的,但还有, 你是如此正确, |
| 180 | how many people fall backward into a relationship | 有多少人倒向关系 |
| 181 | and before they know it, we're living together. | 在他们知道之前 我们一起生活 |
| 182 | We got a daughter, we got a kid, we were married. | 我们有一个女儿,我们有一个孩子,我们结婚了。 |
| 183 | And then when you have kids, | 然后当你有孩子, |
| 184 | because then that's half of you | 因为那是你的一半 |
| 185 | and half of them running around, | 他们中有一半人奔走, |
| 186 | you're never going to separate yourself from that. | 你永远也离不开它 |
| 187 | So once you have a child with somebody, | 所以,一旦你有一个孩子 与某人, |
| 188 | then the most important thing in the world to you | 那世上对你最重要的事 |
| 189 | is half that other person, whether you like them or not. | 是另一半人, 不管你喜欢与否。 |
| 190 | Yeah, Jeffrey Miller had a tweet a long time ago | 是啊,杰弗里・米勒有一个推特 很久以前 |
| 191 | that I always think about. | 我总是在想 |
| 192 | And he said, every parenting buck in the world | 他说,世界上所有养育子女的人 |
| 193 | could be replaced with one buck on behavioral genetics. | 可以用行为遗传学的一块钱来代替 |
| 194 | That- | 那个... |
| 195 | I'm a big believer in genetics, yes. | 我对遗传学很有信心 |
| 196 | I do think a lot of behavior is downstream of genetics. | 我觉得遗传学下游有很多行为 |
| 197 | And I think we underplay that. | 我认为我们低估了这一点。 |
| 198 | We like to overplay nurture and underplay nurture | 我们喜欢过度培育和低估 |
| 199 | for, I sort of say, underplay nature for societal reasons. | 因为,我可以说,出于社会原因, 低估了大自然。 |
| 200 | But nature is a big deal. | 但是大自然是个大事 |
| 201 | The temperament of the person you marry | 你结婚的人的脾气 |
| 202 | is probably going to be reflected in your child by default. | 可能默认会反映在你的孩子身上。 |
| 203 | People can change- | 人们可以改变... |
| 204 | If you want a securely attached kid, | 如果你想要一个安全附身的孩子, |
| 205 | pick a securely attached partner. | 选择一个安全附着的伴侣。 |
| 206 | Well, the secret to a happy relationship | 幸福关系的秘密 |
| 207 | is two happy people, right? | 是两个快乐的人,对不对? |
| 208 | So I would say, if you want to be happy, | 所以我会说,如果你想快乐, |
| 209 | then be with a happy person. | 然后和一个快乐的人在一起。 |
| 210 | Don't think you're going to be with someone who's unhappy | 别以为你会和不高兴的人在一起 |
| 211 | and then make them happy down the road. | 然后让他们在路上快乐 |
| 212 | Or if you're okay with them being unhappy, | 或者如果你不介意他们不开心 |
| 213 | but there are other things you like about them, that's fine. | 但你喜欢其他的东西,没关系。 |
| 214 | But this goes back to- | 但这又回到... |
| 215 | Compensate to their unhappiness with other things. | 补偿他们不幸福的事物。 |
| 216 | And actually, we talked a little bit about | 事实上,我们聊了一下 |
| 217 | how people do connect successfully on spirit and those things. | 人们是如何成功地连接 精神和那些东西。 |
| 218 | But that's maybe a little too abstract. | 但这也许太抽象了 |
| 219 | If you want to get a little more practical, | 如果你想更实际一点 |
| 220 | it could be based on values. | 它可以基于价值观。 |
| 221 | And values are a set of things you won't compromise on. | 价值是一组你不会妥协的东西。 |
| 222 | Values are tough decisions of, oh, my parent got sick. | 价值观是我父母生病的艰难决定 |
| 223 | Do they move in with us or do we put them in a nursing home? | 他们搬来和我们住 还是送他们进养老院? |
| 224 | Do we give the children money or do we not? | 我们是不是给孩子们钱? |
| 225 | Do we move across the country to be closer to our family | 我们是否为了亲近家人而迁移到全国各地 |
| 226 | or do we stay put where we are? | 还是留在原地? |
| 227 | Do we argue about politics? | 我们要争论政治吗? |
| 228 | Do we care or do we not, right? | 我们是否在乎,对不对? |
| 229 | The values are way more important than checklist items. | 数值远比清单项目更重要。 |
| 230 | And I think if people were to align much more on their values, | 我认为,如果人们能更加一致他们的价值观, |
| 231 | they would have much more successful relationships. | 他们的关系会更成功 |
| 232 | The emotional pain of fearing change. | 恐惧变化的情感痛苦. |
| 233 | I have this thing, the job, the location, the partner, | 我有这个东西,工作,地点,合伙人, |
| 234 | I'm going to enter or not enter this thing. | 我要进不进这个东西。 |
| 235 | For the most part, it's leaving. | 大部分时间,它要离开。 |
| 236 | I think we have this sort of loss of version | 我觉得我们有这种 丢失版本 |
| 237 | that we really feel. | 我们真的觉得 |
| 238 | Evolved loss of version. | 演化失传版本. |
| 239 | It's just painful separating yourself | 将自己分开很痛苦 |
| 240 | in front of your friends. | 在你的朋友面前,你应该知道。 |
| 241 | It's embarrassing. | 难堪. |
| 242 | How would you advise people to get past themselves | 你怎么劝人自己过日子? |
| 243 | with that loss of version, that fear of change? | 失去版本, 害怕改变? |
| 244 | Oh, my God, oh, my God. | 须菩提. |
| 245 | Yeah, it's the hardest thing in the world, starting over. | 是啊,这是世界上最难的事情, 从头开始。 |
| 246 | It's back to the zero to one thing. | 复以零为一. |
| 247 | It's the mountain climbing thing. | 乃登山之事. |
| 248 | You're not going to find your path | 你不会找到自己的路的 |
| 249 | to the top of the mountain in the first go around. | 到了山顶 在第一个绕行。 |
| 250 | Sometimes you go up there, you get stuck | 有时候你上去,你被卡住了 |
| 251 | and you come back down. | 然后你下来 |
| 252 | And the difference between all the successful people | 和所有成功者的区别 |
| 253 | and the ones who are not is the ones who are successful | 而不成功者, |
| 254 | want it so badly, they're willing to go back | 这么想,他们愿意回去 |
| 255 | and start over again and again, | 一次又一次地重新开始 |
| 256 | whether in their career or in their relationships | 无论是职业还是关系 |
| 257 | or in anything else. | 或任何东西。 |
| 258 | The more seriously you take yourself, | 你越认真 |
| 259 | the unhappier you're going to be. | 你会更不高兴 |
| 260 | You learned how to take yourself less seriously. | 你学会了如何轻视自己 |
| 261 | Well, fame doesn't help on that one | 名声也帮不了你 |
| 262 | because that is one of the traps of fame. | 因为那是名利的陷阱之一 |
| 263 | People are always talking about you. | 人们总是在谈论你。 |
| 264 | They have a certain view of you and you start believing that | 他们有你的看法 你开始相信 |
| 265 | and then you take yourself seriously. | 然后你会认真对待自己 |
| 266 | And then that limits your own actions. | 这限制了你自己的行动。 |
| 267 | You can't look like a fool anymore. | 你不能再像个傻瓜了 |
| 268 | You can't do new things anymore. | 你不能再做一些新的事情了 |
| 269 | Tomorrow I announce I'm a breakdancer, right? | 明天我宣布我是一个破解者,对不对? |
| 270 | That's going to be met with a lot of scorn and ridicule. | 这会遇到很多的鄙视和嘲笑. |
| 271 | But what if I want to be a breakdancer? | 但如果我想当断路手呢? |
| 272 | I'd back you if you want to make that pivot. | 如果你想做那个支点 我会支持你的 |
| 273 | Yeah, the truth is if I want to be a breakdancer, | 是的,事实是,如果我想成为一个破解者, |
| 274 | I'd be breakdancing. | 我会跳舞的 |
| 275 | But like I'm starting a new company, | 但好像我要成立新公司一样 |
| 276 | zero to one again from scratch. | 零比1再次从零。 |
| 277 | Let's do it one more time. | 再来一次 |
| 278 | And not just going and raising a big VC fund | 不只是去筹一个大VC基金 |
| 279 | or retiring or what have you. | 或退休或你有什么。 |
| 280 | But that's because I want to build the product. | 但那是因为我想制造这个产品。 |
| 281 | I want to see it exist. | 我想看到它的存在。 |
| 282 | So I think that you constantly just have to force yourself. | 所以我觉得你必须不断强迫自己 |
| 283 | You have to remind yourself. | 你必须提醒自己。 |
| 284 | Look, deep down, you're still the same Chris | 你看,内心深处,你仍然是同样的克里斯 |
| 285 | you were when you were nine years old. | 你九岁时就已经是了 |
| 286 | Deep down, you're still a kid. | 在内心深处,你还是个孩子。 |
| 287 | You're still curious about the world. | 你仍然对这个世界好奇 |
| 288 | You still have a lot of the same predilections | 你仍然有很多相同的倾向 |
| 289 | and desires at once. | 和一时的欲望。 |
| 290 | You've got a nice veneer on it. | 你有一个不错的外表。 |
| 291 | But one of the nice things when you have kids | 但是有孩子的时候,有件好事 |
| 292 | is you realize how much closer they are to you | 你知道他们离你有多近吗? |
| 293 | in personality and knowledge and know-how. | 性格、知识和专门技能 |
| 294 | Like I look at my son, he's eight. | 就像我看着我的儿子,他才八岁。 |
| 295 | And I just noticed like, wow, | 我刚刚注意到,哇, |
| 296 | he's probably has 60 to 80% of my knowledge | 他大概有我60%到80%的知识 |
| 297 | and development wisdom and he has a lot more freedom | 和发展智慧 他有更多的自由 |
| 298 | and he has a lot more spontaneity. | 他更自发 |
| 299 | In some ways he's smarter. | 在某些方面,他更聪明。 |
| 300 | And there's not a big gap here left to close. | 这里没有大缺口要关闭。 |
| 301 | This kid's going to be done very soon caught up to me. | 这孩子很快就会被干掉的 |
| 302 | And so to the extent that I think I know better | 所以说,我认为我更清楚 |
| 303 | or that I'm somewhere or that I'm someone, | 或者说我在某处 或者说我是某个人 |
| 304 | it's just an illusion. | 这只是一个幻觉。 |
| 305 | It's just a belief. | 这只是一个信念。 |
| 306 | What's the lineage between that | 这两者之间的分界线是什么 |
| 307 | and taking yourself too seriously? | 还太认真了? |
| 308 | I shouldn't take myself too seriously | 我不该太认真 |
| 309 | because there's nothing here to take that seriously. | 因为没有什么可以认真对待的 |
| 310 | And if I take myself too seriously, | 如果我太认真了 |
| 311 | then I'm going to get trapped. | 然后我会被困住。 |
| 312 | I'm going to circumscribe myself again | 我要再自我约束一次 |
| 313 | into a limited set of behaviors and outcomes | 进入有限的一系列行为和结果 |
| 314 | that keep me from being free, | 使我无法自由 |
| 315 | keep me from being spontaneous, keep me from being happy. | 阻止我自发 阻止我快乐 |
| 316 | So it just goes back to the, | 所以,它只是回到, |
| 317 | don't think about yourself too much. | 别太担心自己 |
| 318 | There's a special type of pain in realizing | 有一种特殊的痛苦 |
| 319 | that the advice that you need to hear right now | 你现在需要听到的建议 |
| 320 | is something that almost always you learned a long time ago | 这几乎都是你很久以前学到的 |
| 321 | and that you're basically sort of the same person | 而且你基本上还是一样的人 |
| 322 | you were as you were nine. | 你当时9岁 |
| 323 | And a lot of the time people ask questions like, | 很多人问问题 比如, |
| 324 | what advice do you wish | 你们有什么建议? |
| 325 | that you would give yourself 10 years ago? | 你10年前会自首吗? |
| 326 | People ask themselves that question, | 人们问自己这个问题, |
| 327 | almost invariably, | 几乎总是, |
| 328 | the advice that you would give yourself 10 years ago | 十年前你给自己的建议 |
| 329 | is still the advice that you need to hear today. | 仍然是你今天需要听到的建议。 |
| 330 | Absolutely, that's why I did that exercise | 当然,这就是为什么我做这个练习 |
| 331 | of thinking back 10 years, 20 years, 30 years ago, | 回想十年,二十年,三十年前 |
| 332 | what advice would I give myself? | 我会给自己什么建议? |
| 333 | For me, it's just be less emotional. | 对我来说,它只是减少情绪。 |
| 334 | Don't take everything so seriously. | 别把一切都当回事 |
| 335 | Do the same things, | 做同样的事情, |
| 336 | but do them without all the emotional turbulence. | 但做他们 没有所有的情绪动荡。 |
| 337 | And so that's the advice I'm giving myself going forward. | 这就是我给自己前进的建议。 |
| 338 | Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | 释曰. |
| 339 | It's funny how we need that distance | 这很有趣,我们需要的距离 |
| 340 | to be able to be a little bit more objective, | 更客观一点 |
| 341 | to have a little bit more perspective. | 来多点视角 |
| 342 | And it's almost a little bit of a trick, right? | 这几乎是一个小把戏,对不对? |
| 343 | Because typically when you do that, | 因为通常当你这样做, |
| 344 | you say, what would you tell a friend | 你会怎么跟朋友说? |
| 345 | that was going through this? | 经历了这个吗? |
| 346 | And then you try and turn the advice | 然后你试着把建议转过来 |
| 347 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}给那个朋友看好你自己 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}那又怎么样 | |
| 348 | You always think, well, I'm not the friend. | 你总是想,嗯,我不是那个朋友。 |
| 349 | You go, okay, you 10 years ago, | 你去,好吧,你10年前, |
| 350 | there's enough distance in that. | 里面有足够的距离 |
| 351 | You go, oh, I actually am still that person. | 你去吧,哦,我其实还是那个人。 |
| 352 | There's just a single line between that and me. | 这和我之间只有一条线 |
| 353 | And related to this story is I think understanding | 和这个故事相关联的是 我想理解 |
| 354 | is way more important than discipline. | 比纪律更重要 |
| 355 | Now, Jaco would have a fit, | 现在,Jaco会发疯, |
| 356 | but on physical things, discipline is important. | 但是在身体上 纪律很重要 |
| 357 | If I want to build a good body, | 如果我想造个好身体 |
| 358 | I gotta work out on a regular basis. | 我得定期工作 |
| 359 | But on mental things, | 但对于心理问题, |
| 360 | I think understanding is way more important. | 我认为理解更重要 |
| 361 | Once you see the truth of something, you cannot unsee it. | 一旦你看到某件事的真相,你就不能不看到它。 |
| 362 | All of us have had experiences | 我们都有过经历 |
| 363 | where we've seen a behavior in a person, | 我们见过一个人的行为 |
| 364 | and then it just changes what we think about that person. | 然后它就改变了我们对那个人的看法 |
| 365 | We no longer want to be friends with them. | 我们再也不想跟他们做朋友了 |
| 366 | Or we deeply respect them if it was really good behavior | 或者我们深深地尊重他们 如果这是真正的好行为 |
| 367 | that maybe was observed unintentionally. | 或许是无意中观察到的 |
| 368 | So when we really do see something clearly, | 所以,当我们真的看到 清楚的东西, |
| 369 | it changes our behavior immediately. | 它立即改变了我们的行为。 |
| 370 | And that is far more efficient | 这要高效得多 |
| 371 | than trying to change your behavior through repetition. | 而不是试图改变你的行为 通过重复。 |
| 372 | Could you give me an example? | 能举个例子吗? |
| 373 | If you were, let's say that you have a friend | 如果你有,就说你有个朋友 |
| 374 | and then that person turns out to be a thief, | 然后那个人变成了小偷 |
| 375 | you see that person stealing something, | 你看到那人偷东西, |
| 376 | you're done with them. | 你与他们结束了。 |
| 377 | If you are, the smoking and lung cancer example | 如果你是,吸烟和肺癌的例子 |
| 378 | is a good one, someone close to you. | 是一个很好的, 一个接近你的人。 |
| 379 | Or anytime someone close to you dies, | 或者随时有你身边的人死去 |
| 380 | or you even hear about someone dying, | 或者你甚至听说有人死了, |
| 381 | you hear about someone dying, what's the first thing you do? | 你听说有人死了, 你做什么的第一件事? |
| 382 | The first thing, assuming that you weren't that close to them, | 首先,假设你没有那么接近他们, |
| 383 | obviously you're close to them, it's different. | 显然你和他们很亲近 不一样 |
| 384 | But if you weren't that close to them, | 但如果你没有那么亲近他们 |
| 385 | but you hear about someone in your extended social life | 但你听说有人 在你漫长的社会生活中 |
| 386 | or someone close to them dying, | 或亲近他们的人, |
| 387 | you immediately start trying to distinguish yourself from them. | 你马上开始试着区分自己和他们 |
| 388 | You're like, oh, well, how old was this person? | 你就像,哦,好吧, 这个人多大了? |
| 389 | Were they a smoker? | 他们抽烟吗? |
| 390 | Did they have an issue? | 他们有问题吗? |
| 391 | Do I have that issue? | 我有问题吗? |
| 392 | You immediately start comparing. | 你马上开始比较。 |
| 393 | And what you're doing there is you're sort of just | 而你正在做的是 你有点 |
| 394 | trying to see if there's an overlap here. | 看看这里是否有重叠 |
| 395 | But if you see the truth in something, | 但如果你看到真相的话 |
| 396 | if you're like, oh my God, this person was the same age as me | 如果你喜欢,哦,我的上帝, 这个人和我一样大 |
| 397 | and they died, and that's starting to happen at my age | 他们死了,这开始发生 在我这个年龄 |
| 398 | where I'm starting to hear about extended circle people, | 在那里,我开始听到 关于延伸圈人, |
| 399 | which just reminds you, time is really short. | 提醒你 时间很短 |
| 400 | There's a truth there. | 那里有个真理 |
| 401 | There's a truth there that you cannot- | 有一个真理,你不能... |
| 402 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你自相残杀的反应 | |
| 403 | The truth there that you cannot unsee. | 你所不能见的真相 |
| 404 | Or for example, I think, were you into bodybuilding | 比如说,我想,你是在修身 |
| 405 | or something back when? | 还是什么时候的事? |
| 406 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 407 | Just like bro-lifting stuff. | 就像举兄弟一样 |
| 408 | Bro-lifting stuff. | 亲手偷东西 |
| 409 | To be less of a skinny bitch, yeah. | 少一个瘦婊子,是的。 |
| 410 | Right, but there probably was a point | 对,但也许有一点 |
| 411 | where you were being really aggro in the gym | 在体育馆里,你非常的阿格鲁 |
| 412 | and you injured yourself. | 你伤了自己 |
| 413 | Many times. | 无数遍. |
| 414 | Right, and each one of those was a deep understanding | 对,每个都是个深刻的理解 |
| 415 | of don't go beyond this point, right? | 不要超越这一点,对不对? |
| 416 | There was a truth there. | 有一个真理在那里。 |
| 417 | So again, when you see these things | 所以,当你看到这些东西 |
| 418 | in such a way that you can't unsee them, | 以你无法看见的方式 |
| 419 | that changes your behavior instantly. | 那会立刻改变你的行为 |
| 420 | And I would argue that that introspection | 我想说,回顾一下 |
| 421 | to find those truths is actually very useful. | 找到这些真相实际上非常有用。 |
| 422 | Is that a justification for more experimentation, | 这是进行更多实验的理由吗? |
| 423 | exploration, experience in life, | 探索 生活经验 |
| 424 | sort of trying to find serendipity | 那种尝试寻找 沉迷 |
| 425 | because all of these experiences | 因为所有这些经历 |
| 426 | are going to teach you a inescapable lesson? | 要教你一个不可回避的教训吗? |
| 427 | You're gonna do what you're gonna do. | 尔时世尊作是念已. |
| 428 | I mean, your level of exploration, | 我的意思是,你的探索水平, |
| 429 | I think is sort of up to you, | 我觉得应该由你决定 |
| 430 | but life is always throwing truth back at you. | 但生活总是在向你吐露真相 |
| 431 | It's about whether you choose to see it, | 这是关于你是否选择看它, |
| 432 | whether you choose to acknowledge it, | 如果你们愿意承认, |
| 433 | even if it's painful. | 纵使痛苦. |
| 434 | Truth is often painful, right? | 真相往往很痛苦,对吧? |
| 435 | If it wasn't, we'd all be seeing truth all the time. | 如果不是,我们都会看到真相 |
| 436 | Reality is always reflecting truth. | 现实总是反映真理。 |
| 437 | That's all it is. | 就是这样 |
| 438 | Why would you not have accessed it already? | 你为什么不已经访问过它? |
| 439 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 440 | All the philosophy that's out there, for example, | 比如说,所有的哲学理论, |
| 441 | it's almost trite. | 已经很老套了 |
| 442 | Most people, they look at philosophy like pfft, | 大多数人,他们看哲学 像pfft, |
| 443 | until they discover it for themselves. | 直到他们自己发现它。 |
| 444 | Because wisdom is the set of things | 因为智慧是一组事情 |
| 445 | that cannot be transmitted. | 无法传输。 |
| 446 | If they could be transmitted, | 如果可以传出去的话 |
| 447 | we'd read the same five philosophy books. | 我们读了同样的五本哲学书 |
| 448 | We'd all be done. | 我们都完了。 |
| 449 | We'd all be wise. | 我们都会是明智的。 |
| 450 | You have to learn it for yourself. | 须自修习. |
| 451 | It has to be rediscovered for yourself | 必须自己重新发现 |
| 452 | in your own context. | 在你自己的背景。 |
| 453 | You have to have specific experiences | 你必须有具体的经验 |
| 454 | that then allow you to generalize | 这样你就可以概括 |
| 455 | and see the truth in those things | 并在那些事物中看到真理 |
| 456 | in such a way that you're not gonna unsee them. | 这样你就不会看不到他们了 |
| 457 | But each person is going to see them in a different way. | 但每个人都会以不同的方式看待他们。 |
| 458 | I can tell you that Socrates story, | 我可以告诉你苏格拉底的故事, |
| 459 | and it's not gonna resonate until there's something | 并且它不会产生共鸣 直到有东西 |
| 460 | that other people desire that you realize | 其他人希望你意识到 |
| 461 | you yourself don't want. | 你自己不会想要的 |
| 462 | And the moment that happens, | 而那一刻, |
| 463 | then you'll see the truth in the general statement. | 然后,你会看到真相 在一般陈述。 |
| 464 | I wanna just read you a two-minute essay | 我想给你读两分钟的论文 |
| 465 | that I wrote a couple of weeks ago. | 我几星期前写的 |
| 466 | It's called Unteachable Lessons. | 名为无学. |
| 467 | I've been thinking about the special category of lesson, | 我一直在想特殊类别的课程, |
| 468 | one which you cannot discover | 无法发现的 |
| 469 | without experiencing it firsthand. | 没有亲身体验 |
| 470 | There is a certain subset of advice | 有个建议 |
| 471 | that for some reason, | 因为某种原因 |
| 472 | we all refuse to learn through instruction. | 我们都拒绝通过指导学习。 |
| 473 | These are unteachable lessons. | 这些是无法教授的教训。 |
| 474 | No matter how arduous or costly or effortful | 无论多么艰难,多么昂贵,多么努力 |
| 475 | it is going to be for us to find out ourselves, | 它将是我们发现自己, |
| 476 | we prefer to disregard the mountains of warnings | 我们宁可无视警告的山岳, |
| 477 | from our elders, songs, literature, | 从我们的长辈,歌曲,文学, |
| 478 | historical catastrophes, public scandals, | 历史灾难 公共丑闻 |
| 479 | and instead think some version of, | 转而想一些版本, |
| 480 | yeah, that might be true for them, but not for me. | 是啊,这可能对他们是真实的, 但对我并非如此。 |
| 481 | We decide to learn the hard lessons the hard way | 我们决定从艰难中吸取教训 |
| 482 | over and over again. | 一次又一次 |
| 483 | Unfortunately, they all seem to be the big things too. | 不幸的是,它们似乎都是大事。 |
| 484 | It's never new insights about how to put up level shelves | 对于如何架设高架,从没有新的见解 |
| 485 | or charmingly introduce yourself at a cocktail party. | 或者在鸡尾酒派对上很迷人地自我介绍 |
| 486 | Instead, we spend most of our lives | 相反,我们度过了大部分的一生 |
| 487 | learning firsthand the most important lessons | 直接学习最重要的教训 |
| 488 | that the previous generations already warned us about. | 前人曾警告过我们, |
| 489 | Things like, money won't make you happy. | 比如,钱不会让你高兴的 |
| 490 | Fame won't fix your self-worth. | 名声不会修复你的自我价值。 |
| 491 | You don't love that pretty girl. | 你不爱那个漂亮的女孩。 |
| 492 | She's just hot and difficult to get. | 她只是热和难得到。 |
| 493 | Nothing is as important as you think it is | 没有比你想的那么重要 |
| 494 | when you're thinking about it. | 思惟时. |
| 495 | You will regret working too much. | 你会后悔工作太多的 |
| 496 | Worrying is not improving your performance. | 担心并不能改善你的表现 |
| 497 | All your fears are a waste of time. | 你所有的恐惧都是浪费时间 |
| 498 | You should see your parents more. | 你应该多看看你的父母。 |
| 499 | You'll be fine after the breakup | 分手后就没事了 |
| 500 | and will be grateful that you did it. | 将感激你这样做。 |
| 501 | It's perfectly okay to cut toxic people out of your life. | 把有毒的人从你生命中切掉完全没问题 |
| 502 | And even reading this list back, | 即使读回这份名单, |
| 503 | I'm rolling my eyes at how fucking trite it is. | 我转眼看它有多老套 |
| 504 | These are all basic bitch obvious insights | 这些都是贱货的直觉 |
| 505 | that everybody has heard before. | 人人都听说过 |
| 506 | But if they're so basic, | 但是,如果他们是如此的基本, |
| 507 | why does everyone so reliably fall prey | 为什么每个人都如此可靠 落猎物 |
| 508 | to them throughout our lives? | 对他们来说,我们一生? |
| 509 | And if they're so obvious, | 如果他们是如此明显, |
| 510 | why do people who have recently become famous or wealthy | 为什么最近成名或富有的人 |
| 511 | or lost a parent or gone through a breakup | 或失去父母或经历分手 |
| 512 | start to proclaim these facts | 开始宣称这些事实 |
| 513 | with the renewed grandiose ceremony | 重新举行盛大仪式 |
| 514 | of someone who's just gone through religious revelation? | 刚刚经历宗教启示的人? |
| 515 | It's also a very contentious list of points | 这也是非常有争议的要点列表 |
| 516 | to say on the internet. | 在互联网上说。 |
| 517 | If you interview a billionaire | 如果你采访一个亿万富翁 |
| 518 | who says that all of his money didn't make him happy | 谁说他的钱都不让他高兴 |
| 519 | or a movie star who said that her fame felt like a prison, | 或电影明星 谁说她的名声 感觉像监狱, |
| 520 | the internet will tear them apart | 互联网会把他们撕成碎片 |
| 521 | for being ungrateful and out of touch. | 忘恩负义 失去联系 |
| 522 | So not only do we refuse to learn these lessons, | 因此,我们不仅拒绝吸取这些教训, |
| 523 | we even refuse to hear the message | 我们甚至拒绝听消息 |
| 524 | from those warning us about them. | 他们警告我们, |
| 525 | And even more than that, | 不仅如此 |
| 526 | I think for every one of these, | 我想对于每一个这些, |
| 527 | if I consider a bit deeper, | 如果我认为更深一点, |
| 528 | I can recall a time, | 我记得有一次 |
| 529 | including right now, | 包括现在, |
| 530 | where I convinced myself that I am the exception to the rule, | 在那里我说服自己,我是规则的例外, |
| 531 | that my particular mental makeup or life situation | 我特别的精神化妆或生活状况 |
| 532 | or historical wounds or dreams for the future | 或历史创伤或对未来的梦想 |
| 533 | render me immune to these lessons being applicable. | 让我免受这些教训的影响。 |
| 534 | No, no, no, my inner landscape would be solved | 不,不,不,我的内在景观会解决的 |
| 535 | by skirting around the most well-known wisdom of the ages. | 绕着这些年代最知名的智慧 |
| 536 | No, no, no, I can thread this needle properly. | 不,不,不,不,我可以 正确线针。 |
| 537 | Watch me dance through the minefield | 看着我跳过雷区 |
| 538 | and avoid all of the trip wires that everyone else kicks. | 并避免所有绊脚铁丝 其他人踢。 |
| 539 | And then you kick one, | 然后你踢一个, |
| 540 | and you share a knowing look, | 而你们有共同的眼光, |
| 541 | the kind that can only occur | 只能发生的类型 |
| 542 | between two people who've been hurt in the exact same way, | 两个人一样受伤 |
| 543 | and a voice in the back of your mind will say, | 你脑后的声音会说 |
| 544 | I told you so. | 我告诉过你 |
| 545 | That's an unteachable lesson. | 师曰如何是学人不得. |
| 546 | It's a good essay. | 散文精进. |
| 547 | I think one of the reasons why these lessons are unteachable | 我认为这些课不能教的原因之一 |
| 548 | is because they're too broad. | 因为他们太宽了 |
| 549 | They have to be applied in context. | 它们必须结合具体情况加以适用。 |
| 550 | A number of the ones that you let out contradict each other, | 你们互相矛盾的, |
| 551 | like spend more time with your parents | 喜欢花更多的时间 与你的父母 |
| 552 | and don't work so hard, | 别这么努力 |
| 553 | but at the same time, | 但与此同时, |
| 554 | you do want to be successful, right? | 你想成功 对吧? |
| 555 | I think a lot of these lessons come from down on high, | 我认为很多这些教训都是从高处来的, |
| 556 | from, as you said, like the famous movie star | 就像你说的,像著名的电影明星 |
| 557 | or the billionaire saying, | 或亿万富翁说, |
| 558 | oh, you don't need my to be happy. | 哦,你不需要我快乐。 |
| 559 | It's like, well, okay, then give it up, bitch, right? | 这就像,好吧,然后放弃它,婊子,对不对? |
| 560 | So in reality, I think many of these contradict each other. | 所以在现实中,我认为许多这些相互矛盾。 |
| 561 | And it's like, if you went to school | 这就像,如果你上学 |
| 562 | and you just studied philosophy for four years, | 你刚刚学习哲学四年, |
| 563 | you would not know how to live life | 你不会知道如何生活 |
| 564 | because you wouldn't know which philosophical doctrine | 因为你不知道哪个哲学理论 |
| 565 | to apply in which circumstance. | 适用于何种情况。 |
| 566 | You have to actually live life, | 你必须活着, |
| 567 | go through all of the issues to figure out | 研究所有的问题 |
| 568 | what it is that you want, | 你想怎样? |
| 569 | what's the context in which some of these things apply | 这些东西的应用背景是什么? |
| 570 | and some of them don't. | 并且有些人没有。 |
| 571 | Yes, you want to visit your parents more often, | 是的,你想更频繁地拜访你的父母, |
| 572 | but you don't want to live with your parents | 但你不想和父母住在一起,因为... |
| 573 | and you don't want to necessarily see them every day | 你不必每天都想见到他们 |
| 574 | or every weekend, depending on the parent. | 或每个周末,取决于父母。 |
| 575 | You might not get along with one of them. | 你可能与其中之一相处不好。 |
| 576 | So I think it is highly contextual. | 所以我认为它非常贴切。 |
| 577 | That said, I would argue that | 这么说,我会说 |
| 578 | once you figure it out for yourself, | 一旦你自己想出来 |
| 579 | you can kind of carve these variations | 你可以刻出这些变化 |
| 580 | on these maxims that apply to you. | 这是适用于你的格言 |
| 581 | And then you'll have a specific experience | 然后,你会有一个具体的经验 |
| 582 | that helps you remember it and actually execute on it. | 帮助你记住它 并实际上执行它。 |
| 583 | And you can also phrase it in a way | 你也可以用某种方式说 |
| 584 | where it's not trite anymore. | 在那里它不再老化了。 |
| 585 | So like my- | 就像我的一样... |
| 586 | It's personal. | 是个人恩怨 |
| 587 | Yeah, so a lot of my maxims and notes to self | 是啊,所以很多我的格言 和笔记自我 |
| 588 | are carved in a way that they're modernized. | 雕刻的方式 他们的现代化。 |
| 589 | They're saying something true, | 他们说的是实话 |
| 590 | which might be trite if I didn't say it in a new way | 如果我没有用新的方式说 可能很老套 |
| 591 | or in an interesting way that is more relevant to me today. | 或以有趣的方式 对我更相关 |
| 592 | There was a Nobel Prize winner | 有个诺贝尔奖得主 |
| 593 | who said something to the effect of | 谁说的东西 效果是 |
| 594 | everything worth saying may have been said before, | 一切值得说 可能以前说过, |
| 595 | but given that nobody was listening, | 但鉴于没人听 |
| 596 | it must be said again. | 必须再说一遍 |
| 597 | Yeah, it has to be said again. | 是啊,必须再说一遍。 |
| 598 | It has to be recontextualized for the modern age. | 须为近代重构. |
| 599 | Things do change. | 事情确实改变了。 |
| 600 | Technology changes, culture changes, people change. | 技术变革,文化变革,人变. |
| 601 | On that, I've heard you say, | 关于这一点,我听到你说, |
| 602 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你说的是 看上去明智的区别 | |
| 603 | and being wise that you tried to appear smart as a kid | 和聪明,你试图 显示聪明作为一个孩子 |
| 604 | by sort of- | 有点... |
| 605 | I still do. | 我还在想 |
| 606 | Wrote memorization, masquerading is insight and wisdom. | 写作回忆,伪装是洞察力和智慧. |
| 607 | And I'd certainly feel that. | 我当然会感觉到 |
| 608 | A lot of the show for me, I think, has been, | 对我来说,很多节目,我想,一直是, |
| 609 | was and still is a redemption arc from this decade | 曾经是,现在仍然是这十年的救赎之弧 |
| 610 | of my life where I completely suppressed | 在我的一生中 我完全压制 |
| 611 | any intellectual curiosity. | 任何智力上的好奇心。 |
| 612 | It's like, okay, I'll be a professional party boy | 就像,好吧,我会是一个专业的派对男孩 |
| 613 | for 10 years, stand on the front door of a nightclub | 十年,站在夜总会门口 |
| 614 | and give out VIP wristbands and have access | 并发出VIP腕带,可以进入 |
| 615 | to all of the pretty girls or the cool parties | 给所有漂亮女孩或酷派对 |
| 616 | or whatever it might be. | 或随其可能. |
| 617 | Seems like it worked out okay. | 看起来还不错 |
| 618 | It did in some ways. | 在某些方面确实如此。 |
| 619 | And you had fun. | 你玩得很开心 |
| 620 | Look, it was a good way to spend my 20s, | 你看,这是一个很好的方式 花我的20多岁, |
| 621 | but to sort of come back above, | 但为了回到上面, |
| 622 | put your head above water, two degrees, | 把你的头放在水上,两度, |
| 623 | one of which was a masters. | 其中之一是一个主人。 |
| 624 | And then this like, just shut down any of that learning. | 然后这就像,只是关闭 任何学习。 |
| 625 | I mean, I did that while I was at uni. | 我的意思是,我这样做 当我在uni。 |
| 626 | While I was at uni, I was running the events. | 当我在Uni时,我在主持活动。 |
| 627 | So it was actually a decade and a half. | 所以其实是十年半。 |
| 628 | I think there was a big redemption arc within this show. | 我想这节目里有个大救赎弧 |
| 629 | And I constantly have to kind of wipe the slime off me | 我总得把黏液擦掉 |
| 630 | of this sense that I need to prove myself. | 我需要证明自己 |
| 631 | And so much of it, it's why it really resonates with me. | 如此之多,这就是为什么它真的 与我共鸣。 |
| 632 | When you're memorizing things, | 当你在回忆事物时, |
| 633 | it indicates that you don't understand them | 它表明你不明白他们 |
| 634 | or that sort of, yeah, rote memorization and regurgitation | 或那种,是的, 旋转的纪念和重塑 |
| 635 | masquerading as wisdom. | 假为智慧. |
| 636 | Because people use fluency as a proxy | 因为人们用流利作为代理 |
| 637 | for truthfulness and insight. | 是诚实和明察的。 |
| 638 | They use the complexity of your language | 他们使用你语言的复杂性 |
| 639 | and your communication. | 还有你的通讯 |
| 640 | Yeah, there's a lot of jargon out there. | 是啊,有很多的术语在那里。 |
| 641 | I think it's the mark of a charlatan | 我觉得是骗子的印记 |
| 642 | to explain a simple thing in a complex way. | 以复杂的方式解释一件简单的事情。 |
| 643 | And so when you see people using very complicated language | 所以当你看到人们使用非常复杂的语言 |
| 644 | to explain simple things, | 为了解释简单的事情 |
| 645 | they're either trying to impress you and obfuscate | 他们不是想给你留下深刻的印象 就是迷惑你 |
| 646 | or they don't understand it themselves. | 或者他们自己不明白 |
| 647 | But there's an allure in that though. | 但是这里面有种诱惑 |
| 648 | This was one of the things I had to do | 这是我必须做的一件事 |
| 649 | when I went to therapy. | 当我去治疗。 |
| 650 | It's kind of an interesting, | 这是一个有趣的, |
| 651 | I think I've talked about this before. | 我想我已经谈过了 |
| 652 | I needed to turn off podcast Chris | 我要关掉播客克里斯 |
| 653 | when I stepped into therapy | 当我介入治疗 |
| 654 | because most of the time that I spend one-on-one | 因为大部分时间我花在一对一 |
| 655 | in a deep conversation that's undistracted | 在一段深层次的对话中 |
| 656 | throughout the week, I trained myself over, | 这周我训练自己 |
| 657 | when I started doing it, 700 episodes now, 900 and whatever. | 当我开始做,700集 现在,900集等等。 |
| 658 | And I knew what I could do to say to this therapist, | 我知道我能对这个治疗师说什么 |
| 659 | some, to just sort of veer off a little | 一些,只是 排序的退一点 |
| 660 | and create some nice story, put a bow on it, | 并创造出一个好的故事, |
| 661 | push it across the table | 推过桌子 |
| 662 | and watch your eyes light up a little bit, | 看着你的眼睛点亮一点, |
| 663 | like a little grin or a self-deprecating joke or whatever. | 像一个小笑 或一个自我堕落的笑话或什么的。 |
| 664 | I'm like, you're not here, you're performing. | 我很喜欢,你不在这里, 你在表演。 |
| 665 | You're doing this, you're doing the Chris Williamson thing | 你这样做,你做克里斯・威廉森的事情 |
| 666 | with the sort of jazz hands. | 那种爵士乐手。 |
| 667 | So I have my own version. | 所以我有我自己的版本。 |
| 668 | Okay, tell me. | 好吧,告诉我。 |
| 669 | Okay, so you have podcast, Chris. | 好吧,所以你有播客,克里斯。 |
| 670 | I have podcast guest of all. | 我有播客的宾客 |
| 671 | Precisely. | 没错 |
| 672 | So very often I'll think of something. | 我常常会想出点办法 |
| 673 | I'll have some, what I think is an insight | 我要一些,我认为是洞察力 |
| 674 | and I wanna tweet it or write it down. | 我想发微博或写下来 |
| 675 | But in my mind, I'm talking about it on a podcast. | 但是在我的脑海里,我在播客上谈论它。 |
| 676 | That's kind of how my mind registers it. | 这就是我的思维方式 |
| 677 | And for a while, I thought this was a bad thing | 有一阵子,我认为这是件坏事 |
| 678 | and I tried to eradicate podcasting of all. | 我试图根除播客。 |
| 679 | And then I just realized that's just how it comes out. | 然后我才意识到 事情就是这样发生的 |
| 680 | So I might as well just be okay with it. | 所以我还是顺其自然吧 |
| 681 | Now, do you know the reason I'm on this podcast? | 你知道为什么我在播客里吗? |
| 682 | I haven't done a proper formal interview, | 我还没正式面试 |
| 683 | straight up top, whatever, 10, 20 podcasts in a long time. | 10到20个播客 |
| 684 | Since Rogan, maybe? | 从罗根开始,也许? |
| 685 | Probably since Rogan. | 可能从罗根开始 |
| 686 | Yeah, I went out at the top, right? | 是啊,我出去 在顶部,对不对? |
| 687 | That was a theory. | 这是一个理论。 |
| 688 | Well, it's still at the top. | 嗯,它仍然在顶部。 |
| 689 | Yeah, yeah, I know. | 对,对,我知道 |
| 690 | And then I've done some stuff with Tim, Tim Ferriss, | 然后我做了一些事情 蒂姆,蒂姆・费里斯, |
| 691 | good friend, but that's been more co-hosting. | 好朋友,但这已经 更多的联合主办。 |
| 692 | I haven't been a guest. | 未尝为客. |
| 693 | And then I did one or two random things | 然后我做了一两个随机的事情 |
| 694 | where I just stumbled into a thing, right? | 在那里,我只是偶然 在一个东西,对不对? |
| 695 | There was a reason, but it wasn't like this. | 是有原因的 但事情不是这样的 |
| 696 | And I reached out to you for this one, right? | 我联系了你,对不对? |
| 697 | I have lots of people reaching out to me for podcasts. | 我有很多人来找我 寻找播客。 |
| 698 | I do not answer them. | 我不回答他们。 |
| 699 | I reached out to you. | 我联系到你了 |
| 700 | And the reason is a really funny one. | 原因确实很有趣。 |
| 701 | It's because when I am playing podcasts in the vault | 因为当我在金库里玩播客 |
| 702 | in my head, for some reason you're on the other side. | 在我的脑子里, 不知为什么你站在另一边。 |
| 703 | And I don't know why, I literally don't know why. | 我不知道为什么,我真的不知道为什么。 |
| 704 | It's not like I've even seen many of your podcasts. | 我甚至没有见过很多你的播客 |
| 705 | I think I've seen some snippets here and there. | 我想我见过一些片段在这里和那里。 |
| 706 | But for some reason, you were the guy in the podcast, | 但不知何故 你是播客里的那个人 |
| 707 | in podcasts in the vault. | 在金库里的播客。 |
| 708 | And so I was like, I might as well just do it. | 所以我想,我还是去做吧。 |
| 709 | So I reached out to you. | 所以我联系你 |
| 710 | I wonder if this will close that loop | 我不知道这会不会关闭这个循环 |
| 711 | or further entrench it. | 或者进一步巩固它。 |
| 712 | I wonder if you've made it way worse now | 不知道你现在是不是把事情搞得更糟了 |
| 713 | and you're just gonna have, well, first off, | 而你只是要去, 好了,首先, |
| 714 | it was a dream and now it's reality plus a dream | 那是个梦 现在又变成现实了 |
| 715 | and fuck, I can't get away from him. | 他妈的,我不能离开他。 |
| 716 | Yeah, there are enough people that I turned down | 是啊,有足够的人 我拒绝了 |
| 717 | where I said, I'm just not doing podcasts. | 我说的地方,我只是不做播客。 |
| 718 | I feel bad about that. | 我觉得很糟 |
| 719 | I gotta go back and do those podcasts, | 我得回去做播客播客 |
| 720 | but I probably wear out my luck. | 但我可能 磨损了我的运气。 |
| 721 | I have nothing new to talk about. | 我没什么好谈的 |
| 722 | So I don't know what I'm gonna say. | 所以我不知道我要说什么。 |
| 723 | Well, I appreciate you said on Rogan. | 好吧,我很感激你说罗根。 |
| 724 | And this was something to kind of pay it back to you. | 这是应该还给你的 |
| 725 | I had a five headed Mount Rushmore of guests | 我有一个5个方向的拉什莫尔山的客人 |
| 726 | before I started this show. | 在我开始这个节目之前 |
| 727 | And it was Jordan Peterson, Sam Harris, | 是乔丹・彼得森 山姆・哈里斯 |
| 728 | Alain de Botton from the School of Life, you and Rogan. | 生命学院的阿兰·德·博顿 你和罗根 |
| 729 | And that was my hydra of a Mount Rushmore. | 那是拉什莫尔山的海德拉 |
| 730 | And I knew, I think someone had asked you at some point, | 我知道,我想有人问过你 |
| 731 | maybe it was a tweet or something after Rogan | 也许是罗根之后的推特什么的 |
| 732 | or maybe even said it on Rogan where you said, | 或者甚至说在罗根,你说, |
| 733 | I don't like to say the same thing twice, | 我不想说同样的话两次, |
| 734 | at least not in the same way. | 至少不是这样 |
| 735 | I don't like sequels. | 我不喜欢续集 |
| 736 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 737 | Yeah, and I really, really respected that. | 是啊,我真的,真的很尊重这一点。 |
| 738 | That was 2019. | 这是2019年。 |
| 739 | You said it was eight or nine years ago. | 你说是八九年前的事 |
| 740 | It wasn't as long ago as you think. | 还没你想的那么早 |
| 741 | I have a terrible memory. | 我有一个可怕的记忆。 |
| 742 | Yeah, yeah. | 对 对 |
| 743 | You're right, 2019 right before COVID. | 你说得对,2019年 就在COVID之前 |
| 744 | Yes, and I really appreciated that | 是的,我真的很感谢 |
| 745 | because there is something, the content game, | 因为有东西,内容游戏, |
| 746 | you can continue to sort of, | 你可以继续排序, |
| 747 | I'm sure I'll have said many things today | 我肯定今天会说很多话的 |
| 748 | that the audience will have already heard, | 观众已经听到了, |
| 749 | but caring enough about having novel insights | 但足够关心有 新的洞察力 |
| 750 | or at least having a new perspective on similar insights. | 或者至少对相似的见解有新的看法。 |
| 751 | So well, in the space of six years since you were on Joe, | 那么好,在六年的空间 从你对乔, |
| 752 | a lot of these things, well, I'm coming at them. | 很多这些东西,嗯,我来了。 |
| 753 | Actually, the first thing I said to you today, | 其实,我今天对你说的第一句话, |
| 754 | like, I'm not convinced that I actually fully agree | 喜欢,我不相信 我真的完全同意 |
| 755 | with that thing that I used to say, | 我曾经说过的话 |
| 756 | which is cool, right? | 这很酷,对不对? |
| 757 | That's you showing that the position | 这就是你显示的位置 |
| 758 | that you put in the ground previously is not a tether. | 以前你放进地里不是绳子 |
| 759 | It's not you being held to it anymore. | 你不再被牵着了 |
| 760 | Well, I think the reason why I wanted to be on this | 我想为什么我想加入这个 |
| 761 | is because for some reason, | 因为某些原因, |
| 762 | I have the impression that you engage in conversations. | 我有一种印象,你参与谈话。 |
| 763 | And I like conversations. | 我喜欢谈话 |
| 764 | I don't like interviews. | 我不喜欢采访 |
| 765 | This is why I was doing my last startup AirChat, | 这就是为什么我做 我最后一个启动的AirChat, |
| 766 | which was all about conversations. | 这都是关于对话的 |
| 767 | And conversations to me are more genuine. | 和我的对话更真实 |
| 768 | They're more authentic. | 他们更真实。 |
| 769 | There's a give and take. | 有报有报. |
| 770 | There's a back and forth. | 前后有为. |
| 771 | There's a genuine curiosity. | 有一种真正的好奇心。 |
| 772 | It's not to say the other podcasters don't do it. | 不是说其他播客不这样做 |
| 773 | They absolutely do do it. | 他们绝对这样做。 |
| 774 | But for some reason in my mind, I had you as a guy | 但出于某种原因 我把你当男人 |
| 775 | that I would actually have a conversation with. | 我其实会有一个谈话。 |
| 776 | And sure enough, you just read me your essay, | 当然,你只是读我的论文, |
| 777 | which I don't think anybody else would really do, right? | 我不认为其他人会真的这样做,对不对? |
| 778 | That implies there's a give and take. | 意思是说有得有失 |
| 779 | There's a genuine curiosity. | 有一种真正的好奇心。 |
| 780 | And I think that's useful because then | 我觉得这很有用 因为那时 |
| 781 | certain inexplicit knowledge that I had | 某些我无法解释的知识 |
| 782 | will be surfaced for myself. | 将浮出水面为自己。 |
| 783 | And I think that's helpful. | 我认为这很有帮助。 |
| 784 | Well, you're seeing, you know, | 嗯,你看到的,你知道, |
| 785 | to kind of break the fourth wall a bit, | 有点打破第四面墙, |
| 786 | you're seeing very much of some of the gateway drug insights | 你可以看到很多 网关毒品的洞察力 |
| 787 | that you had that you just don't get to choose. | 你没有选择的余地 |
| 788 | I'm aware that you kind of have an anti-guru sentiment | 我知道你有点反古鲁情绪 |
| 789 | in you, like a very strong, like, don't listen to me. | 像你一样强壮 别听我的 |
| 790 | I don't know what I'm doing. | 不知所为. |
| 791 | That's a trap. | 这是一个陷阱。 |
| 792 | No, guru's a trap. | 不 大师是个陷阱 |
| 793 | Do not follow me, do not bow to me, | 不要跟着我,不要向我鞠躬, |
| 794 | do not do any of the other things to me. | 别对我做其他的事 |
| 795 | But if you see resonance in another person, | 但如果你看到别人的共鸣 |
| 796 | and I think this is what we're all trying to find. | 我想这就是我们想找到的 |
| 797 | You know, people can complain about the mountains | 你知道,人们可以抱怨 山 |
| 798 | of content creation that happens, and maybe rightly so. | 内容的创造, 发生,也许是正确的。 |
| 799 | But if you're able to find someone | 但是如果你能找到一个人 |
| 800 | and you see in them a little bit of you, | 你从他们身上看到一点点, |
| 801 | maybe not even much of you, but like, oh, that bit of them, | 也许你们不怎么喜欢,但是,哦,那一点, |
| 802 | their self-esteem or the way they look at relationships | 他们的自尊或他们看待关系的方式 |
| 803 | or what they want to do, the kind of life they want | 或他们想做什么, 他们想要什么样的生活 |
| 804 | or the level of peace of mind that they want to have | 或他们想要的平静程度 |
| 805 | or whatever it might be. | 或随其可能. |
| 806 | If you find in somebody else a little bit of that, | 如果你在别人身上找到一点点 |
| 807 | it's kind of like what you're saying before. | 有点像你之前说的 |
| 808 | You can no longer be unconvinced of that. | 你不能再不相信这一点了。 |
| 809 | And it steps in and becomes a part of you. | 它进入并成为你的一部分。 |
| 810 | And yeah, you're maybe seeing reflected back to you | 是啊,你可能看到反射给你 |
| 811 | some, you know, this sort of percolated, | 有些,你知道, 这种穿透, |
| 812 | very meandering insight from however long ago | 很久以前的深刻见解 |
| 813 | that something's happened. | 发生了什么事。 |
| 814 | And maybe in, you know, five years time, | 也许在五年时间里 |
| 815 | you'll be like, you know that thing that you said | 你会想,你知道你说的 |
| 816 | about the lessons of the blah, blah, blah, blah, blah? | 关于教训之类的,等等,等等,等等? |
| 817 | And then, I don't know, it's cool. | 然后,我不知道,这是很酷的。 |
| 818 | That's like synthesis, right? | 这就像合成,对不对? |
| 819 | It's this sort of blending of. | 这是这种混合。 |
| 820 | The reason I spend a lot of time in San Francisco | 我在旧金山花了很多时间 |
| 821 | is because it's a gravitational attractor | 因为它是一个引力吸引器 |
| 822 | for the smartest people in the world. | 为世界上最聪明的人。 |
| 823 | And despite all of the many problems the city had | 尽管有许多问题 城市有 |
| 824 | because it's mismanaged beyond belief, | 因为它管理不当 超越了信仰, |
| 825 | it does just seem to pull in | 它似乎只是拉进来了 |
| 826 | the young, smart, creative people. | 年轻,聪明,有创意的人。 |
| 827 | Not just the ones who are building technology, | 不只是那些在制造技术的人 |
| 828 | but they're exploring every facet of life | 但他们正在探索生命的每一个方面 |
| 829 | and they're weird and sometimes it's repulsive | 他们很奇怪,有时会让人厌恶 |
| 830 | and it's bizarre, but you talk to these people | 很奇怪,但你跟这些人说话 |
| 831 | and you just see a very intelligent person | 你看到一个非常聪明的人 |
| 832 | coming at life in a completely different way, | 以完全不同的方式降临生命, |
| 833 | putting it through the combinatorics of human DNA, | 把它通过 人类DNA的组合, |
| 834 | which are uncountable, | 不可计数的, |
| 835 | and giving you a weird perspective | 并给你一个奇怪的视角 |
| 836 | that can twist your mind around. | 那样可以让你心神不宁 |
| 837 | And to do that, you always have to be learning. | 要做到这一点,你总是必须学习。 |
| 838 | You can't be in a guru mentality. | 你不能在大师的心态。 |
| 839 | If I'm with somebody and they're listening | 如果我和别人在一起,他们在听 |
| 840 | to every word I say and hanging on it, | 对每一个字,我说和挂在它, |
| 841 | that's not interesting for me. | 这对我来说不好玩。 |
| 842 | I'm not gonna learn anything. | 我不会学任何东西。 |
| 843 | I want people who are intelligent, | 我要那些聪明的人 |
| 844 | who will say something back that is a little different | 说些不同的话 |
| 845 | and I may not agree with it, | 我也许不同意 |
| 846 | but it's gonna leave a mark. | 但它会留下一个标记。 |
| 847 | It's gonna leave an impression. | 这会留下一个印象。 |
| 848 | And it's gonna leave an impression to the extent | 这会给人留下深刻的印象 |
| 849 | that both that they are correct | 两者都是正确的 |
| 850 | and that I choose to listen. | 我选择倾听。 |
| 851 | And I'll choose to listen if I don't view myself | 我将选择听 如果我不看自己 |
| 852 | as higher status or smarter than them. | 地位更高或比他们聪明 |
| 853 | The flip side of that is I'm not really impressed | 翻转的一面是,我不怎么印象深刻 |
| 854 | by high status people. | 由地位高的人。 |
| 855 | Like I don't... | 就像我没有... |
| 856 | Just because- | 只是因为... |
| 857 | Has that always been the case? | 一直都是这样吗? |
| 858 | Pretty much. | 相当多。 |
| 859 | In fact, most of my friends who have gone on | 事实上,我大多数朋友都走了 |
| 860 | to become very famous or successful, | 变得非常出名或成功, |
| 861 | the more famous successful they've been, | 他们越出名的成功, |
| 862 | the less I spend time with them. | 我花在他们身上的时间越少 |
| 863 | Partially because they get surrounded | 部分是因为被包围了 |
| 864 | by an army of sycophants, | 以一支结节的军队盟誓, |
| 865 | so it gets hard to break through. | 所以很难突破 |
| 866 | And cause I don't want anything from them. | 因为我不想从他们那里得到任何东西。 |
| 867 | And I don't like these situations | 我不喜欢这样的情况 |
| 868 | in which transactional relationships are implied. | 暗含交易关系。 |
| 869 | That can be a gift though to people who are of that | 这可以是一种礼物 给那些家伙 |
| 870 | because the higher that they climb up that hierarchy, | 因为他们越高 爬上等级, |
| 871 | the fewer and fewer people don't want anything from them. | 越来越少的人 不想从他们身上得到任何东西。 |
| 872 | So in that way, you can be an even better friend. | 这样的话,你可以成为一个更好的朋友。 |
| 873 | Right, but they get surrounded by people | 对,但他们被人包围 |
| 874 | who do want things from them | 他们的确想从他们那里获得什么, |
| 875 | and are so good at pretending they don't, | 并且很擅长假装他们没有, |
| 876 | that it's just not worth my time to try | 这不值得我尝试 |
| 877 | and break out from that group. | 然后从那个团体里逃出来 |
| 878 | So it does get lonely at the top, so to speak, | 所以,它确实变得孤独 在顶部,所以说, |
| 879 | but it's also by choice because it's... | 但也因为... |
| 880 | Champagne problem. | 香槟问题。 |
| 881 | Yeah, you can be your own best friend too. | 是啊,你也可以成为你最好的朋友。 |
| 882 | I am my own best friend actually. | 其实我是我最好的朋友 |
| 883 | So I really do enjoy spending time with myself. | 所以我真的很喜欢和自己在一起 |
| 884 | Yeah, the smartest people aren't interested | 是啊,最聪明的人不感兴趣 |
| 885 | in appearing smart and don't care what you think is... | 表现得聪明一点 也不管你怎么想 |
| 886 | Yeah, I mean, a lot of life is not giving a shit. | 是啊,我的意思是,很多生活 是不在乎狗屎。 |
| 887 | A lot of the best things in life come out of that. | 生活中很多最好的事物都从中产生. |
| 888 | Hmm, does this mean sort of talking about | 意思是说 |
| 889 | that rote memorization masquerading as wisdom | 以智慧代替记忆 |
| 890 | and insight thing, which I think perhaps | 和洞察力的事情, 我认为也许 |
| 891 | almost certainly podcasts like this | 几乎肯定播客是这样的 |
| 892 | will have contributed to. | 将为此做出贡献。 |
| 893 | You know, you hear an Olander-Botton | 你知道,你听到一个奥兰德 -博顿 |
| 894 | who's like a painter with words, | 他像画家 有文字, |
| 895 | very simple, very sort of unpretentious, | 非常简单,非常不可取 |
| 896 | but if you're intellectually curious, | 但是如果你在智力上好奇的话 |
| 897 | you only see the production of his thoughts | 你只见他的思想产生, |
| 898 | you don't necessarily see the work | 你不一定看到这作品 |
| 899 | that's gone into the thoughts behind. | 这已经进入了后面的思想。 |
| 900 | So you confuse the presentation of them for the insight. | 所以,你混淆了 展示他们的洞察力。 |
| 901 | Does that make sense? | 这有道理吗? |
| 902 | Of course, yeah. | 当然,是的。 |
| 903 | A lot of my stuff is more polished. | 我很多东西都磨光了 |
| 904 | Like one of the funny things, | 就像一个有趣的事情, |
| 905 | yeah, one of the funny things that right before this podcast | 是啊,一个有趣的事情 在播客之前 |
| 906 | was I thought, maybe I should go back and read my old tweets | 我想,也许我应该回去看看我的旧微博 |
| 907 | to sort of remember what I said | 记得我说过的话 |
| 908 | and I can articulate it well. | 我可以很好地表达出来。 |
| 909 | Then I realized that's just performance. | 然后我意识到这只是表现。 |
| 910 | I would just be memorizing my whole stuff to perform. | 我只是在回忆 我的全部东西来表演。 |
| 911 | Oh, well, that's an extra special level of hell | 哦,好吧,这是一个额外的特殊水平的地狱 |
| 912 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你已经陷入了困境 | |
| 913 | I wrote memorizing me to be more me. | 我写信提醒我 要成为更多的我。 |
| 914 | Bingo. | 宾果。 |
| 915 | And to live up to some expectations | 并满足一些期望 |
| 916 | or some famous personality that I now have to become, | 或者我现在必须成为的名人 |
| 917 | some straight jacket that I have to put on. | 一件我必须穿上的直衣 |
| 918 | I'm having to live up to in private | 我不得不私下过日子 |
| 919 | the things that I put on. | 我穿上的东西。 |
| 920 | That's right. | 没错 |
| 921 | So of course, pretty quickly I saw through that. | 所以,当然,我很快地看到了这一点。 |
| 922 | You know, it's nonsense and it also constrains my time | 你知道,这是胡说八道 也制约了我的时间 |
| 923 | and it's just work. | 而这只是工作。 |
| 924 | I think that's, you know, your meditation practice at work | 我觉得那是你在工作中的冥想练习 |
| 925 | that mindfulness gap to be like, huh. | 记忆的空白就像,呵呵。 |
| 926 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 927 | There's that thing again. | 还有那个东西 |
| 928 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 929 | Hello. | 哈罗 |
| 930 | So it's not about changing your thoughts. | 所以这不是改变你的想法。 |
| 931 | It's not about fixing your thoughts. | 这不是关于修复你的想法。 |
| 932 | It's not about changing yourself. | 这不是改变自己。 |
| 933 | It's just about being observant of yourself | 只是为了观察自己 |
| 934 | so that you can then, it'll automatically change. | 这样你就能自动改变 |
| 935 | Whatever change needs to happen will happen. | 无论需要发生什么变化,都会发生。 |
| 936 | You trying to change yourself is very circular. | 你试图改变自己是非常循环的。 |
| 937 | The mind trying to change the mind, | 心想改变主意 |
| 938 | the mind doesn't want wrestling with itself. | 头脑不想自己摔跤 |
| 939 | I don't think it gets you anywhere. | 我想这对你没有好处 |
| 940 | You've spent a lot of time either creating wealth | 你花了很多时间创造财富 |
| 941 | or thinking about how to create wealth. | 或者想着如何创造财富 |
| 942 | What have you learned are the best places to spend wealth? | 你学到了什么是 财富的最好地方? |
| 943 | To spend wealth. | 以施富贵. |
| 944 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 945 | You spend this time creating this wealth, accumulating. | 你花时间创造财富,积累财富 |
| 946 | How does, what are the best ways for you to put it back out? | 怎么样,什么是最好的方法 你把它放回去? |
| 947 | I actually think Elon had this one figured out, | 我觉得伊隆已经想通了 |
| 948 | which is he plowed his own money back into his own businesses | 也就是他把自己的钱 汇回自己的企业 |
| 949 | to go and do bigger and better things for humanity. | 去为人类做更多更好的事 |
| 950 | So what I would like to, you know, | 所以,我想,你知道, |
| 951 | you could give it to nonprofits, | 你可以把它给非营利者, |
| 952 | but a lot of nonprofits are grifty | 但很多非营利组织都是骗子 |
| 953 | or it's people who didn't earn it trying to spend it | 不然就是那些没有挣钱的人 |
| 954 | or they don't have tight feedback loops | 或者他们没有严格的反馈循环 |
| 955 | on having a good effect. | 效果不错 |
| 956 | So one of the things I want to do as an aside | 所以有件事我想做为一旁 |
| 957 | is I want to create a little school for young physicists, | 我想为年轻的物理学家创建一所小学校 |
| 958 | but that's my nonprofit. | 但那是我的非营利 |
| 959 | For young physicists? | 对于年轻的物理学家? |
| 960 | Yeah, that's my non-profit thing. | 是啊,这是我非营利的事情。 |
| 961 | But, and I've actually underwritten media | 但是,我其实已经 给媒体写了 |
| 962 | and some physics stuff. | 和一些物理的东西。 |
| 963 | I don't like to talk about it. | 亦不乐说. |
| 964 | So I don't talk about my whatever so-called philanthropy | 所以我不谈我所谓的慈善事业 |
| 965 | because I think that makes it less real. | 因为我觉得这样就不那么真实了 |
| 966 | That makes it more status oriented. | 这使得它更面向地位。 |
| 967 | It makes it less philanthropic. | 这使慈善活动减少。 |
| 968 | Yeah, exactly. | 没错 |
| 969 | And then people- | 然后人们... |
| 970 | Look at how charitable my charity is. | 看看我的慈善事业有多慈善 |
| 971 | And then people also come hunting for money. | 然后人们也来找钱 |
| 972 | So there's all of that disease. | 故有诸病. |
| 973 | I don't believe in giving to schools. | 我不相信给学校。 |
| 974 | They have enough money. | 他们有足够的钱。 |
| 975 | Ivy Leagues have enough money | 常春藤联盟的钱够多了 |
| 976 | and they don't know how to spend it. | 他们不知道怎么花 |
| 977 | So I think the best use of money is I think a good business | 所以,我认为最好的用钱 是我认为一个好生意 |
| 978 | creates a product for people that they voluntarily buy | 为人们创造他们自愿购买的产品 |
| 979 | and they get value out of. | 他们得到的价值出来。 |
| 980 | So in that sense, I think Steve Jobs and Elon | 因此,从这个意义上说,我认为史蒂夫・乔布斯和伊隆 |
| 981 | and entrepreneurs like that have created a lot of value | 这样的企业家创造了很多价值 |
| 982 | for the world. | 为了世界 |
| 983 | So one of the things I can do is I can take my own money | 所以我能做的就是自己拿钱 |
| 984 | and I can invest it in myself to go and build | 我可以自己投资去建设 |
| 985 | the next great thing that I think needs to exist. | 下一个伟大的事情 我认为需要存在。 |
| 986 | And that's basically what I'm doing right now. | 这就是我现在要做的。 |
| 987 | I'm doing a new business. | 我在做一个新生意 |
| 988 | I'm self-funding it. | 我自资. |
| 989 | I'm plowing a lot of money into it. | 我为它花了很多钱。 |
| 990 | I'm gonna build something that I think is beautiful | 我要造出一件我认为很美的东西 |
| 991 | that I wanna see exist. | 我想看见存在。 |
| 992 | I really wanna see it exist. | 我真的很想看到它的存在。 |
| 993 | Have you spoken about this yet or is it still dark mode? | 你说过这个吗? 还是还黑模式? |
| 994 | It's so early. | 这么早才到 |
| 995 | It's, yeah. | 没错 |
| 996 | Maybe I'll show it to you in a few months. | 也许我几个月后会给你看 |
| 997 | Cool. | 凉爽。 |
| 998 | Hopefully six months. | 希望是六个月 |
| 999 | And I'm excited about it and that's a good use of money. | 我对此感到兴奋,这是对资金的很好的利用。 |
| 1000 | What about the worst places to spend wealth? | 那最糟糕的财富消费地点呢? |
| 1001 | What is the old line? | 旧线是什么? |
| 1002 | If it flies, floats or fornicates. | 若其飞翔,浮或奸. |
| 1003 | Well, very nice way to change the final F. | 嗯,非常好的方式 改变最终F。 |
| 1004 | Very impressive. | 非常令人印象深刻。 |
| 1005 | That's the way I heard it. | 闻此语已. |
| 1006 | I can't take credit for it. | 岂能取功德. |
| 1007 | I'm pretty sure it's fucks, but yeah. | 我敢肯定,这是性交,但是啊。 |
| 1008 | I think that was, maybe it was Felix Dennis | 我想可能是费利克斯·丹尼斯 |
| 1009 | who had that quote. | 谁有这句话。 |
| 1010 | Yeah, he said, if it flies, floats or fornicates, rent it. | 是的,他说,如果它飞,浮或私通,租它。 |
| 1011 | I think the last one was a little too. | 我想上一个也是 |
| 1012 | It's wrong that he didn't have a family, | 他没有家人是错的 |
| 1013 | didn't have kids. | 没有孩子。 |
| 1014 | So he missed the big one. | 所以他错过了那个大人物 |
| 1015 | But yeah, there are lots of bad ways to spend money. | 但是,是的,有很多坏的方法 花钱。 |
| 1016 | I believe in investment. | 我相信投资 |
| 1017 | I don't believe in consumption. | 我不相信消费。 |
| 1018 | Yes, you're born with a short housing position. | 是的,你出生 有一个短的住房位置。 |
| 1019 | You close that out, you get yourself a nice house, | 你关闭它, 你得到自己一个好的房子, |
| 1020 | get yourself some help to free up your time. | 找人帮你腾出时间 |
| 1021 | So you're not doing things | 所以,你没有做任何事情 |
| 1022 | that other people can do better. | 别人能做得更好 |
| 1023 | Treat people well, always overpay and expect the best. | 善待人,总是高薪,期望最好. |
| 1024 | Pay them like they're the best and then expect the best. | 付他们像他们是最好的,然后期望最好的。 |
| 1025 | But overall, I think a good use of money is to take risks | 但总的来讲,我觉得善用钱就是冒险 |
| 1026 | and build things and do things that other people can't do | 做别人不能做的事情 |
| 1027 | and align it with your own unique talents | 并配合你独特的才能 |
| 1028 | so you can keep delivering to the world. | 这样你就能继续把东西送到世界 |
| 1029 | I'm not gonna sit idle. | 我不会袖手旁观的 |
| 1030 | I'm not gonna retire. | 我不会退休的 |
| 1031 | That's a waste of whatever time I have left on this earth. | 这是浪费我在这个地球上的时间。 |
| 1032 | And if I'm doing something I enjoy, | 如果我在做我喜欢的事 |
| 1033 | then I'm already in perpetual retirement. | 那我已经永远退休了 |
| 1034 | Because work is just a set of things you wanna do | 因为工作只是你想要做的事 |
| 1035 | that you have to do that you don't want to do. | 你必须做你不想做的事 |
| 1036 | So if you wanna do it, it's not work. | 所以,如果你想做到这一点, 它不是工作。 |
| 1037 | And so there are things that I wanna do | 所以,有些事情我想做 |
| 1038 | don't feel like work. | 不喜欢工作 |
| 1039 | I can put money behind them and I can use that | 我可以把钱放在他们后面,我可以用它 |
| 1040 | to instantiate them into reality. | 让他们成为现实 |
| 1041 | And I don't wanna say make the world a better place | 我不想说让世界变得更美好 |
| 1042 | because that's too trite, | 因为太老套了 |
| 1043 | but it's more just create a product that I am proud of | 但它更只是创造了一种产品 我感到自豪 |
| 1044 | that wouldn't exist otherwise | 否则就不会存在 |
| 1045 | that other people will get tremendous value. | 其他人会得到巨大的价值。 |
| 1046 | And it's been enabled through wealth | 它通过财富实现 |
| 1047 | because you're able to take a level of risk | 因为你可以冒险 |
| 1048 | that you wouldn't have been able to otherwise. | 否则你不可能做到 |
| 1049 | Exactly, yeah, wealth gives you freedom. | 没错 财富给了你自由 |
| 1050 | It gives you freedom to explore more options. | 它让你有探索更多选择的自由. |
| 1051 | And in my case, it gives me freedom to start businesses | 就我而言,这让我有创业的自由 |
| 1052 | without having to ask other people for permission | 无需征求他人同意 |
| 1053 | or to warp my vision based on their desires | 或根据他们的欲望扭曲我的视觉 |
| 1054 | to make a return or how they think money should be made. | 或他们认为应该如何赚钱。 |
| 1055 | Is there anything that you'd add | 还有什么你会添加的 |
| 1056 | to the how to get rich thread? | 如何获得丰富的线索? |
| 1057 | Is there anything where you thought, | 有什么你认为, |
| 1058 | fuck, like just one, if I could go in and edit | 他妈的,就像一个, 如果我可以进去编辑 |
| 1059 | and add one more in or- | 并增加一个在或 -- |
| 1060 | Oh, there's like 10,000 things | 有一万件东西 |
| 1061 | I could talk about that topic forever to be honest. | 老实说,我可以永远谈论这个话题。 |
| 1062 | Like that thread was so short and it was so limited | 好像线很短,很有限 |
| 1063 | and it was so like crafted in a sense, | 和它是如此像 设计在某种意义上, |
| 1064 | although I wrote it very spontaneously. | 虽然我写得非常自发 |
| 1065 | It left so much on the cutting room floor | 它留下这么多 在剪切室地板上 |
| 1066 | that I could just talk about that topic for days. | 我可以谈论这个话题 几天。 |
| 1067 | But it's all contextual, right? | 但这一切都是背景,对不对? |
| 1068 | Business is very, very, very contextual. | 商业是非常,非常,非常的背景。 |
| 1069 | Like you have to look at the particular business | 就像你必须看 特定的生意 |
| 1070 | and understand what's being done and why it's being done | 并理解正在做和为什么这样做 |
| 1071 | and how it's being done. | 和如何进行。 |
| 1072 | And then you can tear it apart | 然后你可以撕开它 |
| 1073 | and then reassemble it properly. | 然后重新组装 |
| 1074 | And I like to think that that is actually | 我觉得这其实是 |
| 1075 | where I have specific knowledge and expertise. | 在那里,我拥有具体的知识和专长。 |
| 1076 | My specific knowledge and expertise is not in happiness | 我的具体知识和专长不是幸福 |
| 1077 | and not in philosophy. | 而不是哲学 |
| 1078 | Yes, my life is very hacked to be very unique, | 是的,我的生活被黑了 非常独特, |
| 1079 | but I don't think that's where my specific knowledge is. | 但我不认为这是我的具体知识所在。 |
| 1080 | My specific knowledge is in being able to analyze a business, | 我的具体知识是能够分析企业 |
| 1081 | especially a technology business, | 特别是科技行业, |
| 1082 | and take it apart at the seams and predict in advance | 在缝合处把它拆开,并预先预测。 |
| 1083 | what is likely to work and what is not likely to work. | 哪些是可行的,哪些是行不通的。 |
| 1084 | Clubhouse notwithstanding. | 俱乐部尽管。 |
| 1085 | Because you're still gonna be wrong most of the time. | 因为你大部分时间还是会错的 |
| 1086 | It's like playing the lottery, | 这就像打彩票, |
| 1087 | but you know one or two of the tickets numbers in advance. | 但你事先知道一两个票号 |
| 1088 | You only have to be right a few times | 你只需要对几次 |
| 1089 | or even just once to get the big score. | 甚至只有一次才能拿到大分 |
| 1090 | 彼得・提尔开始PayPal, | |
| 1091 | but he made all his money on Facebook, right? | 但他在Facebook上赚了所有的钱,对吧? |
| 1092 | Now he's done more since then obviously, | 从那时起他做得更多 |
| 1093 | but that was the big winner. | 但这是大赢家。 |
| 1094 | And that's true in any power law distribution. | 任何权力法律的分配都是如此。 |
| 1095 | Number one is gonna return more | 一号会再回来 |
| 1096 | than two through input together. | 超过两个通过一起输入。 |
| 1097 | Two will return more than three through input together. | 两个通过共同输入返回三个以上。 |
| 1098 | You're operating in a highly leveraged intellectual domain. | 你是一个高杠杆的知识领域。 |
| 1099 | So the outcomes are gonna be nonlinear. | 结果是非线性。 |
| 1100 | So I know a lot about the topic, | 所以我知道很多关于这个话题, |
| 1101 | but it's highly contextual. | 但它的高度背景。 |
| 1102 | It makes a lot more sense | 这更有意义 |
| 1103 | if there's a specific business in front of me, | 如果在我面前有具体的事 |
| 1104 | a specific entrepreneur, and I can take that apart. | 一个特定的企业家, 我可以拆开它。 |
| 1105 | And I can say, so there are certain companies | 我可以说,所以有一些公司 |
| 1106 | where I'll say, oh, this is not gonna work | 我会说,哦,这行不通 |
| 1107 | because you, the entrepreneur, | 因为你,企业家, |
| 1108 | are doing this for the wrong reasons. | 这样做是出于错误的理由。 |
| 1109 | You're doing A so you can get to B, just go to B. | 你做A是为了让你得到B,只是去B。 |
| 1110 | Or you're doing this to make money | 你这样做是为了赚钱 |
| 1111 | when really the person who's doing this | 当真正的人 谁这样做 |
| 1112 | because they love the product is gonna beat you. | 因为他们喜欢这个产品会打败你 |
| 1113 | Or you're raising money from the wrong people | 或者你从错人那里筹钱 |
| 1114 | who are in it for the wrong reasons. | 谁在其中 以错误的原因。 |
| 1115 | Or your co-founder is not in it for the right reasons. | 或者你的联合创始人 并不是出于正确的原因 |
| 1116 | Or you don't have the right kind of co-founder. | 或者你没有合适的联合创始人 |
| 1117 | Or your vesting schedule is wrong. | 或者你的背包安排错了 |
| 1118 | Or you're starting the business in the wrong place | 或者你在错误的地方创业 |
| 1119 | or you're approaching it from this angle | 或者你从这个角度接近它 |
| 1120 | instead of that angle. | 而不是那个角度。 |
| 1121 | And of course I'll be wrong too, | 当然我也会错的 |
| 1122 | but I've just seen a lot of data. | 但我刚刚看到很多数据 |
| 1123 | I have my theories around it. | 我有我的理论围绕它。 |
| 1124 | And that's where I feel very comfortable operating. | 在那里,我感觉很舒服的操作。 |
| 1125 | The problem is when I have to talk about | 问题是当我不得不谈论 |
| 1126 | how to create wealth and how to get rich | 如何创造财富和如何致富 |
| 1127 | is a clickbait title, deliberately. | 故意是一个点击标题。 |
| 1128 | But when I talk about how to create wealth, | 但当我谈论如何创造财富时, |
| 1129 | talking about it in the abstract is very difficult | 抽象地谈论它是很困难的 |
| 1130 | because then you just wanna speak truth. | 因为你只想说真话 |
| 1131 | You have to just say the timeless stuff. | 你只能说那些无时无刻的东西 |
| 1132 | You have to be right in almost every context. | 在几乎每个背景中你都必须正确。 |
| 1133 | And so it really limits what you can say. | 因此,它真的限制了 你可以说。 |
| 1134 | The lack of specificity makes it, yeah. | 缺乏特异性使得它,是的。 |
| 1135 | Correct, it's back to philosophy. | 正确,这是回到哲学。 |
| 1136 | But when I can get specific about it, | 但是,当我可以得到 具体关于它, |
| 1137 | that's when the real knowledge is coming. | 这时候,真正的知识来了。 |
| 1138 | You can be like a wealth counselor for people. | 你可以像一个财富顾问 为人们。 |
| 1139 | Yeah, part of the reason why I started doing podcasts | 是啊,部分原因 我开始做播客 |
| 1140 | and this is ego at play, so I'll admit it freely. | 这是玩耍的自负 所以我会自由承认 |
| 1141 | When I was tweeting, I kind of pioneered philosophy Twitter, | 当我在推特上, 我有点开创性哲学推特, |
| 1142 | if you will, or a certain kind of | 如果你愿意,或者某种类型的 |
| 1143 | practical philosophy Twitter. | 实用哲学推特. |
| 1144 | Where in 140 characters, I would try to say something true | 在140个字符中,我会试着说一些真实的话 |
| 1145 | in an interesting way that was insightful to me at the time. | 以有趣的方式 对我来说是当时的洞察力。 |
| 1146 | But then that got copied. | 但后来被复制了 |
| 1147 | There's thousands of us now, right? | 我们现在有成千上万的人了 对吧? |
| 1148 | Thousands of people spitting it out, | 成千上万的人吐出来, |
| 1149 | trying to create these things all day long. | 试图创造这些东西一整天。 |
| 1150 | Although I like to think that my stuff is incompressible. | 虽然我喜欢认为我的东西是不可压抑的。 |
| 1151 | I'm saying it in the tightest way possible, | 我用最紧的方式说, |
| 1152 | which is kind of a little failed poetry background. | 这是一种有点失败的诗歌背景。 |
| 1153 | But what I realized was if you truly have | 但我发现 如果你真的有 |
| 1154 | a deep understanding of something, | 深知某事, |
| 1155 | then you can talk about it all day long. | 然后你可以整天谈论它。 |
| 1156 | Then you can re-derive everything you need | 然后你可以重新思考你需要的一切 |
| 1157 | from that understanding, no memorization required. | 根据这种理解,不需要记忆。 |
| 1158 | You can get to it from first principles. | 你可以从第一原理得到它。 |
| 1159 | And every piece of what you know is like a Lego block | 你所知道的每件东西都像乐高块 |
| 1160 | that just fits in and forms a steel frame. | 那只是适合并形成一个钢框。 |
| 1161 | It's solid, it's locked in there. | 坚固,锁在其中. |
| 1162 | And so on a podcast, I can unload much more deeply | 所以在播客上 我可以更深入地卸载 |
| 1163 | about some of these topics. | 是关于这些话题的。 |
| 1164 | So for example, we can talk about any business you like, | 比如,我们可以谈你喜欢的生意 |
| 1165 | but it has to be in context. | 但它必须是背景。 |
| 1166 | It has to be real. | 须是实相. |
| 1167 | It has to be an actual problem. | 这一定是个实际的问题。 |
| 1168 | Then we can solve it. | 那我们就解决了 |
| 1169 | I just really love that heuristic of | 我只是真的很喜欢那 充满活力的 |
| 1170 | if you're having to memorize something, | 如果你必须记住一件事 |
| 1171 | it's because you don't understand. | 因为你不明白 |
| 1172 | You don't understand it, that's right. | 你不明白,这是正确的。 |
| 1173 | If you have to memorize something, | 如果你必须记住一件事 |
| 1174 | it's because you don't understand it. | 因为你不明白 |
| 1175 | And if you understand something, | 如果你明白一些事情的话 |
| 1176 | you don't have to memorize it. | 你不必记住它。 |
| 1177 | Yeah, again, just to sort of call out a lot | 是啊,再次,只是排序 调出很多 |
| 1178 | of what I tried to do, this redemption arc thing | 我试图做的, 这个救赎弧的事情 |
| 1179 | of if I sound smart, that's like being smart, right? | 如果我听起来很聪明, 那就像很聪明,对不对? |
| 1180 | Well, ChatGPT has memorized the entire internet. | 好吧,ChatGPT已经记住了整个互联网。 |
| 1181 | Good luck competing with that. | 祝你们好运 |
| 1182 | You're not gonna beat at a memorization. | 你不会在回忆中击败。 |
| 1183 | You're not even gonna beat a library of memorization. | 你甚至不会打败一个记忆图书馆。 |
| 1184 | You're not gonna beat any 10 books of memorization. | 你不会打败任何十本回忆录的 |
| 1185 | So memorization is not the thing. | 因此,记忆不是事情。 |
| 1186 | The value of memorization is going down by the day. | 忆念之值逐日下降. |
| 1187 | It's already so low. | 已经这么低了 |
| 1188 | Understanding is the thing. | 了解是关键 |
| 1189 | Being able to, judgment is the thing. | 判断才是关键 |
| 1190 | Taste is a thing. | 尝是事. |
| 1191 | And understanding, judgment, taste, | 还有理解 判断 品味 |
| 1192 | these come out of having real problems | 这些都是因为有真正的问题 |
| 1193 | and then solving them and then finding the commonalities. | 然后解决它们 然后找到共同点 |
| 1194 | What is philosophy? | 什么是哲学? |
| 1195 | Everyone, you live long enough, you'll be a philosopher. | 每个人,你活得够久了,你会成为一个哲学家. |
| 1196 | Philosophy is just when you find | 哲学只是当你发现 |
| 1197 | the hidden generalizable truths | 隐藏的真理 |
| 1198 | among the specific experiences that you've had in life. | 在你生活中的具体经历中 |
| 1199 | And then you know how to navigate | 然后,你知道如何导航 |
| 1200 | future specific experiences based on some heuristics. | 未来基于一些热力学的具体经验。 |
| 1201 | And you create a philosophy around that. | 你创造了一个哲学。 |
| 1202 | Any subject pursued deeply enough | 足够深入的话题 |
| 1203 | will eventually lead to philosophy. | 最终会导致哲学。 |
| 1204 | Mastery in anything, literally anything, | 精通任何东西, 字面上的任何, |
| 1205 | will lead you to being a philosopher. | 会让你成为哲学家 |
| 1206 | You just have to stick with it long enough | 你只要坚持足够久 |
| 1207 | and generalize the truths back out. | 把真相概括出来 |
| 1208 | And these are universal truths. | 这些是普遍真理。 |
| 1209 | It's back to the unity in variety. | 复以形形形色色之统一. |
| 1210 | You can find unity in anything if you go deep enough. | 只要足够深入,就能在任何事物中找到团结. |
| 1211 | And that's why the trite stuff, | 这就是为什么 古老的东西, |
| 1212 | unfortunately sort of keeps coming back around. | 很不幸地,一直回来 |
| 1213 | You're like, well, look, | 你就像,嗯,听着, |
| 1214 | this is cliche for kind of a reason. | 这是陈词滥调的原因 |
| 1215 | It's cliche for reasons. | 以故为俗. |
| 1216 | But sometimes you learn new things. | 但有时你会学到新的东西。 |
| 1217 | Sometimes you do figure out new things too. | 有时候你也会想出新的办法 |
| 1218 | Even in philosophy, for example, science has advanced. | 例如,即使在哲学方面,科学也取得了进步。 |
| 1219 | As science has advanced, | 随着科学的进步 |
| 1220 | it's actually expanded our boundaries of philosophy. | 它实际上扩大了我们的哲学界限。 |
| 1221 | When we used to think that the earth | 当我们曾经认为地球 |
| 1222 | was the center of the universe, | 是宇宙的中心, |
| 1223 | you would actually have a different philosophical outlook | 你会有一个不同的哲学观点 |
| 1224 | than when you think the universe is vast | 而不是当你认为宇宙是广阔的 |
| 1225 | and we're infinitesimally small. | 而我们是无限小。 |
| 1226 | It will give you a different philosophical outlook. | 它会给你一个不同的哲学观点。 |
| 1227 | The same way if you think that | 如果你这么认为 |
| 1228 | the nature is driven by angels and demons and gods | 大自然由天使、恶魔和神驱使 |
| 1229 | versus if there are laws of physics | 对比物理定律 |
| 1230 | that are computable and understandable, | 那是可计算和可理解的, |
| 1231 | that will lead you to a different philosophical outlook. | 这将引导你 不同的哲学观点。 |
| 1232 | If you think that knowledge is something | 如果你认为知识是什么东西 |
| 1233 | that is passed down from above and through generations, | 那是从上至下, |
| 1234 | which is something that is created on the fly | 这是在苍蝇上创造的东西 |
| 1235 | and then tested against reality, | 然后用现实来检验 |
| 1236 | that will lead to a different philosophical outlook. | 这将导致不同的哲学观点。 |
| 1237 | If you think humans are created by God | 如果你认为人类是上帝创造的 |
| 1238 | as opposed to humans evolved from some unicellular organism, | 而不是人类从一些单冰体进化而来, |
| 1239 | yeah, it still doesn't solve the original problem. | 是啊,它仍然不能解决 最初的问题。 |
| 1240 | Who created that? | 谁创造的? |
| 1241 | But at least it takes you further back. | 但至少它让你更进一步。 |
| 1242 | Take the time down the road. | 乘时下路. |
| 1243 | Even same theory is an attempt at reformulating philosophy | 甚至同样的理论 试图重塑哲学 |
| 1244 | based on what we know about computers, | 根据我们对计算机的了解 |
| 1245 | even though it kind of leads | 虽然它有点引领 |
| 1246 | to a lot of the same conclusions as creator. | 与创造者相同的结论 |
| 1247 | But it is at least philosophy | 但至少是哲学 |
| 1248 | that is informed by technology and by science. | 由科技和科学提供资讯。 |
| 1249 | So philosophy can also evolve. | 所以哲学也可以进化. |
| 1250 | Moral philosophy evolves, right? | 道德哲学进化,对不对? |
| 1251 | There was a time when every culture practically, | 曾经有一段时间 每一个文化,实际上, |
| 1252 | that was a conquering culture, practiced slavery. | 那是一种征服的文化, 实行奴隶制。 |
| 1253 | Now, almost all cultures abhor slavery. | 现在,几乎所有的文化都厌恶奴隶制。 |
| 1254 | That's moral philosophy having evolved. | 这就是道德哲学已经进化。 |
| 1255 | There was even like, this sounds too ludicrous to be true. | 这听起来太可笑了 根本不是真的 |
| 1256 | And I don't know if it fully is true, | 我不知道这是不是真的 |
| 1257 | but there were a fairly large group of doctors | 但是有一大群医生 |
| 1258 | based on studies who believed until the 1980s | 根据1980年代以前所相信的研究 |
| 1259 | that babies couldn't feel pain. | 婴儿不会感到痛苦 |
| 1260 | And so even to this day, | 因此,即使直到今天, |
| 1261 | I think circumcision is done without anesthesia. | 我想割包皮是没有麻醉的 |
| 1262 | And because under the theory that very young children, | 因为根据这个理论,非常年幼的孩子, |
| 1263 | babies don't feel pain, and that's ludicrous. | 婴儿不感到痛苦,这是可笑的。 |
| 1264 | And there was a study that came out in the 80s that said, | 80年代有个研究说 |
| 1265 | no, no, they do feel pain. | 不,不,他们确实感到痛苦。 |
| 1266 | It's like, oh yeah, of course, right? | 就像,哦,是的,当然,对不对? |
| 1267 | So people can be stuck in bad philosophical traps | 这样人们就能陷入不良的哲学陷阱 |
| 1268 | for a long period of time. | 在很长一段时间。 |
| 1269 | So even philosophy can make progress. | 因此,即使是哲学也能取得进步. |
| 1270 | And as an example, one of the realizations that I had, | 举个例子,我的一个认识, |
| 1271 | and this is thanks to David Deutsch | 这要归功于大卫·德许 |
| 1272 | and my friend James Pearson, | 我的朋友詹姆斯·皮尔逊 |
| 1273 | also thinking it through a little bit, | 也经过一点点思考 |
| 1274 | is that there are these timeless old questions | 是这些永恒的老问题 |
| 1275 | that we run into where the answers seem like paradoxes. | 发现答案似乎有些矛盾 |
| 1276 | So we stop thinking about them. | 所以,我们停止思考他们。 |
| 1277 | So an example is free will. | 所以一个例子就是自由意志。 |
| 1278 | Do you have free will? | 你有自由意志吗? |
| 1279 | Or does anything matter? | 或有什么关系? |
| 1280 | Is there a meaning to life? | 有生命的意义吗? |
| 1281 | And we get stuck in them because for example, | 我们被困在其中,因为例如, |
| 1282 | is there a meaning to life? | 有生命的意义吗? |
| 1283 | Like, yes, life has a meaning because you're right here. | 就像,是的,生活有其意义 因为你在这里。 |
| 1284 | You create your own meaning. | 你创造了你自己的意义。 |
| 1285 | This moment has all the meaning you could imagine. | 这个时刻有你能想象的一切意义。 |
| 1286 | It's all the meaning there is. | 谓一切有情. |
| 1287 | On the other hand, you're gonna die. | 另一方面,你会死的。 |
| 1288 | It all goes to zero. | 都变成零 |
| 1289 | Heat, death, the universe has no meaning, right? | 热,死亡,宇宙没有意义,对不对? |
| 1290 | So which one is it? | 那么是哪个? |
| 1291 | Well, the reason why it seems paradoxical | 那么,为什么它看起来矛盾 |
| 1292 | is because you're asking the question of a human here now | 因为你现在在问人类的问题 |
| 1293 | at a certain scale at a certain time. | 在某一时间的某个尺度。 |
| 1294 | And then you're answering it from the viewpoint | 然后你从角度回答 |
| 1295 | of the universe over infinite time. | 无限时间的宇宙 |
| 1296 | So you pull the trick. | 所以,你拉诡计。 |
| 1297 | You switch the level at which you're answering the question | 你把回答的关卡换掉 |
| 1298 | and questions should be answered | 应该回答问题 |
| 1299 | at the level at which they're asked. | 在要求他们的级别。 |
| 1300 | So if you ask the question, is there a meaning? | 所以,如果你问问题,有什么意义吗? |
| 1301 | You, Chris, are asking that question. | 你,克里斯,正在问这个问题。 |
| 1302 | Yes, to Chris, there is meaning. | 是的,对克里斯来说,有意义。 |
| 1303 | There's meaning right here. | 这里有意义 |
| 1304 | This is the meaning. | 这就是意义。 |
| 1305 | You can interpret any meaning you want onto it. | 你可以解释你想要的任何意义 |
| 1306 | Don't ask the question as Chris | 不要像克里斯那样问问题 |
| 1307 | and then answer it as God or as the universe. | 然后作为上帝或宇宙来回答 |
| 1308 | That's the trick that you're playing. | 这就是你玩的把戏 |
| 1309 | That's why it seems paradoxical. | 这就是为什么它似乎矛盾。 |
| 1310 | The same way you can say, do I have free will? | 就像你说的,我有自由意志吗? |
| 1311 | People debate free will all day long. | 人们整天自由辩论 |
| 1312 | The question is answered at the wrong frame. | 这个问题是在错误的框架下解答的. |
| 1313 | So they ask the question, | 所以他们问问题, |
| 1314 | is do I as an individual have free will? | 作为个人,我是否有自由意志? |
| 1315 | Hell yeah, I have free will. | 地狱是的,我有自由意志。 |
| 1316 | My mind, body, system can't predict | 我的头脑,身体,系统无法预测 |
| 1317 | what I'm gonna do next. | 接下来我要做什么? |
| 1318 | The universe is infinitely complex. | 宇宙无限复杂. |
| 1319 | I'm making a choice in my mind and I'm doing something. | 我在做一个选择 在脑海里,我做了一些事情。 |
| 1320 | There's my free will. | 有我自由意志. |
| 1321 | So answer at the level at which you were asked. | 回答你被问到的程度 |
| 1322 | Of course I have free will | 我当然有自由意志 |
| 1323 | because I feel like I have free will | 因为我觉得自己有自由意志 |
| 1324 | and I treat you like you have free will | 我把你当做自由意志 |
| 1325 | and you treat me like I have free will. | 你把我当成自由意志 |
| 1326 | We have free will. | 我们有自由意志。 |
| 1327 | The problem then is you start trying to answer the question | 问题是你开始回答问题 |
| 1328 | as if you're the universe. | 就像你是宇宙一样 |
| 1329 | You're like, well, on the universal scale, | 你就像,嗯, 在世界范围, |
| 1330 | big bang, particle collisions, no one makes any choices. | 大爆炸,粒子碰撞, 没有人做出任何选择。 |
| 1331 | How could you be any different | 你怎么会不一样? |
| 1332 | than what the universe wants you to be? | 比宇宙想要你变成什么? |
| 1333 | And it's all one block universe. | 这都是一个街区的宇宙。 |
| 1334 | So you don't have free will. | 所以你没有自由意志 |
| 1335 | Don't answer the question at the level | 别回答这个问题 |
| 1336 | at which it wasn't asked. | 在那里,它没有被问。 |
| 1337 | So if God asked the question, is there free will? | 如果上帝问了这个问题,那有没有自由意志? |
| 1338 | No, there is no free will. | 不,没有自由意志。 |
| 1339 | If the universe asks the question, there is no free will. | 如果宇宙问这个问题,就没有自由意志. |
| 1340 | But if an individual asks the question right now, | 但是,如果一个人现在问这个问题, |
| 1341 | then yes, there is free will. | 是的,有自由意志。 |
| 1342 | So a lot of these paradoxes resolve themselves. | 因此,很多这些悖论会解决自己. |
| 1343 | Philosophical paradoxes that people have been struggling | 人们一直在挣扎的哲学悖论 |
| 1344 | with since the beginning of time, | 从时间开始, |
| 1345 | when you just realize you're answering them | 当你意识到你在回答他们 |
| 1346 | at a scale and time different than they were asked. | 与被问及的大小和时间不同。 |
| 1347 | Speaking of updating beliefs, | 说到更新信仰 |
| 1348 | is there anything that you've changed your mind around | 你改变主意了吗? |
| 1349 | recently? | 最近吗? |
| 1350 | Very recently? | 最近吗? |
| 1351 | I mean, all the time. | 我的意思是,所有的时间。 |
| 1352 | But are you talking about philosophical existential things | 但你说的是哲学存在的东西 |
| 1353 | or technological things? | 还是科技? |
| 1354 | Yeah, philosophical existential things. | 是啊,哲学存在的东西。 |
| 1355 | Anything that comes to mind. | 任何想到的东西 |
| 1356 | If there's anything that's front of mind where you go, | 如果有什么东西是你走的 |
| 1357 | ah, yeah, that's a pretty big fucking OS update. | 啊,是的, 这是一个相当大的他妈的OS更新。 |
| 1358 | Yeah, I'm less laissez-faire | 是啊,我不那么放纵 |
| 1359 | than I used to be on a societal level. | 比我以前在社会层面。 |
| 1360 | I think that culture and religion | 我认为文化和宗教 |
| 1361 | are good cooperating systems for humans. | 是人类良好的合作系统 |
| 1362 | And so if you want to operate in a high trust society, | 如果你想在一个高度信任的社会运作 |
| 1363 | you need to have sets of rules | 你需要有一套规则 |
| 1364 | that people need to follow and obey so they get along, | 人们需要跟随和服从,以便他们和睦相处, |
| 1365 | even if they're one size fits all, | 即使它们都合身 |
| 1366 | doesn't work for everybody. | 不为大家工作。 |
| 1367 | You've moved up a little bit from libertarian? | 你从自由主义者那里升职了吗? |
| 1368 | Yeah, pure libertarians get out-competed and die. | 是啊,纯自由主义者 得到出的能力和死亡。 |
| 1369 | They get overrun because they're every man for himself. | 因为他们都是为自己着想的 |
| 1370 | They can't coordinate. | 他们不能协调。 |
| 1371 | They can coordinate, exactly right. | 他们可以协调,完全正确。 |
| 1372 | So the coordination problems, | 因此,协调问题, |
| 1373 | culture exists to solve fundamental coordination problems. | 文化的存在是为了解决根本的协调问题。 |
| 1374 | Religion solves coordination problems. | 宗教解决了协调问题. |
| 1375 | Ethnicity solves coordination problems historically. | 种族关系在历史上解决了协调问题. |
| 1376 | And when you break down those coordination systems too fast | 当你破坏这些协调系统太快 |
| 1377 | and don't replace them with anything else, | 不要用其他东西来代替他们, |
| 1378 | you get societal breakdowns. | 你得到社会崩溃。 |
| 1379 | So you can have very malfunctioning societies. | 所以,你可以有 非常故障的社会。 |
| 1380 | Go to Japan versus go to any Western city | 去日本对西城 |
| 1381 | and you can see the difference | 你可以看到区别 |
| 1382 | being a culture that's working and a culture that's not. | 是一种行之有效的文化 一种不起作用的文化 |
| 1383 | So I think that that's like a broader set of things | 所以我觉得这就像一个更广泛的事情 |
| 1384 | that I've changed my mind on a fair bit. | 我改变主意了 |
| 1385 | I used to be much more laissez-faire on that stuff. | 我以前在那些东西上更放任自流 |
| 1386 | Let's put it that way. | 这么说吧 |
| 1387 | What else? | 还有什么? |
| 1388 | I mean, on child raising, I've gotten a lot looser. | 我的意思是,关于抚养孩子, 我得到了很多松散。 |
| 1389 | I'm still not like completely laissez-faire, | 我仍然不喜欢完全自由放纵, |
| 1390 | but I'm much more realized like kids are gonna be kids | 但我更意识到 就像孩子会是孩子 |
| 1391 | and you kind of let them do their thing. | 你有点让他们做他们的事情。 |
| 1392 | You've gotten the- | 你已经得到了 - |
| 1393 | Debate with them. | 与他们辩论。 |
| 1394 | Is it a talent that has the ascending levels | 是天资高涨 |
| 1395 | of like anarchism versus conservatism? | 就像无政府主义和保守主义? |
| 1396 | Is that his insight? | 那是他的见解吗? |
| 1397 | Like at the local level, I'm this. | 就像在地方一级,我是这样的。 |
| 1398 | It seems like you've gone the other way. | 看来你走另一条路了 |
| 1399 | It's like at the child level, I'm an anarchist. | 这就像在孩子层面, 我是个无政府主义者。 |
| 1400 | The societal level, I'm a conservative. | 社会层面,我是一个保守派。 |
| 1401 | No, he was quoting somebody else, some brothers, | 不,他引用别人,一些兄弟, |
| 1402 | I forget which ones, | 我忘了哪个 |
| 1403 | but he was making the point eloquently as he often does | 但是他却像他常说的 雄辩地提出这一点 |
| 1404 | that at the family local level, he's a communist. | 在地方家庭层面 他是个共产主义者 |
| 1405 | At the family level, you're a communist. | 在家庭层面,你是共产党员. |
| 1406 | At maybe the extended family level, you're a socialist. | 在大家庭里,你是个社会主义者 |
| 1407 | At the local level, you're kind of a Democrat and so on | 在地方上,你是个民主党人 |
| 1408 | until at the federal level, you're a libertarian. | 在联邦一级,你是自由主义者 |
| 1409 | You've done it the other way, | 你用另一种方式做了这个 |
| 1410 | being a libertarian with the kids | 和孩子们一起当自由主义者 |
| 1411 | and you're being religious, conservative and societal. | 而你是宗教的,保守的和社会的。 |
| 1412 | No, that's a funny way of looking at it. | 不,这是一个有趣的方法看它。 |
| 1413 | I don't know if the scale is that simple. | 我不知道尺度是不是那么简单 |
| 1414 | What else have I changed my mind on? | 还有什么我改变主意了? |
| 1415 | I mean, I think the modern AI is really cool. | 我觉得现代的人工智能很酷 |
| 1416 | But I think these are natural language computers. | 但我认为这些是自然语言的计算机。 |
| 1417 | They're starting to show evidence | 他们开始展示证据 |
| 1418 | of kind of reasoning at some levels, | 某种推理 在某些层次, |
| 1419 | but I don't think they do creativity. | 但我觉得他们没有创造力 |
| 1420 | I think modern AI. | 我认为现代AI。 |
| 1421 | So just on that, one of my favorite takes | 我最喜欢的一件事就是 |
| 1422 | is from Dwarkash Patel and he says, | 是来自德瓦卡什帕特尔 他说 |
| 1423 | if you gave any human on the planet 0.000001% | 如果你给地球上任何人类 0.000001% |
| 1424 | LLM的消费量 任何LLM | |
| 1425 | they would have come up with thousands of new ideas. | 他们会想出几千个新想法 |
| 1426 | Give me one new idea. | 给我个新主意 |
| 1427 | One fundamental new idea. | 一个基本的新想法。 |
| 1428 | That's being generated. | 这正在生成。 |
| 1429 | Yeah, like I'm big into poetry. | 是啊,像我大 喜欢诗歌。 |
| 1430 | Every poem ever written by an LLM is garbage. | 每首LLM写的诗都是垃圾 |
| 1431 | I think even their fiction writing is terrible. | 我觉得连他们的虚构写作都很糟糕 |
| 1432 | Even the new GPT-405, with all due respect to Sam and crew, | 即使是新的GPT-405, 以应有的尊重萨姆和船员, |
| 1433 | I think they're terrible writers. | 我认为他们是可怕的作家。 |
| 1434 | I find them really bad at summarizing. | 我发现他们很难总结。 |
| 1435 | They're really good extrapolating paperwork. | 他们真的很好推断文件。 |
| 1436 | They're very bad at actually distilling the essence | 他们很不擅长蒸馏精髓 |
| 1437 | of something and what's important. | 重要的东西。 |
| 1438 | They don't have an opinions or a point of view, | 他们没有观点或观点 |
| 1439 | but they're still unbelievably powerful breakthroughs. | 但它们仍然是不可思议的强大突破 |
| 1440 | They solve search. | 他们解决了搜索。 |
| 1441 | They solve natural language computing. | 他们解决自然语言计算. |
| 1442 | They make English a programming language. | 他们使英语成为编程语言. |
| 1443 | They solve driving. | 他们解决了驾驶。 |
| 1444 | They solve simple coding and backup coding. | 他们解决了简单的编码和备份编码. |
| 1445 | They solve translation. | 他们解决翻译。 |
| 1446 | They solve transcription. | 他们解决了抄本。 |
| 1447 | They are a fundamental breakthrough in computing. | 它们是计算方面的一个基本突破。 |
| 1448 | It is a different way to program a computer | 电脑编程方式不同 |
| 1449 | rather than you explicitly speak its language | 而不是你明白地说出它的语言 |
| 1450 | and write the code and then run the data through it. | 然后写代码,然后通过它运行数据。 |
| 1451 | You just run enough data through it until it figures out | 你只是通过它运行足够的数据 直到它发现 |
| 1452 | how to write the program. | 如何写程序。 |
| 1453 | That's huge. | 这是巨大的。 |
| 1454 | But are they AGI? | 但他们是AGI吗? |
| 1455 | Not yet. | 还没 |
| 1456 | I don't see a direct path from here to there. | 我看不到从这里到那儿的直路 |
| 1457 | Maybe we'll have to solve a few more problems | 也许我们再解决几个问题 |
| 1458 | before that happens. | 在此之前。 |
| 1459 | And I think ASI is a fantasy. | 我觉得ASI是个幻想 |
| 1460 | I don't think there's any such thing as | 我觉得没有 |
| 1461 | artificial super intelligence, | 人工超级智能 |
| 1462 | where it has some kind of intelligence | 它有某种情报 |
| 1463 | that humans can't fathom. | 人类无法理解 |
| 1464 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1465 | Yeah, it seems like, I don't know, | 是啊,这似乎是, 我不知道, |
| 1466 | if you're from the Bostrom camp or whatever. | 如果你来自博斯特罗姆营地什么的。 |
| 1467 | No, I'm not an AI doomer. | 不,我不是人工智能喷雾器 |
| 1468 | I think that's such a flawed line of reasoning. | 我认为这是一条有缺陷的推理线。 |
| 1469 | But let's say that you came out of the lesswrong.com, | 但是,让我们假设 你走出了小错误的.com, |
| 1470 | like Slate style codec world, | 就像石板风格的解码器世界, |
| 1471 | and there was this sort of lineage from computers | 电脑上有这种血统 |
| 1472 | and AI gets more powerful, more powerful, more powerful, | 和AI越来越强大, 更强大,更强大, |
| 1473 | and then you end up AGI ASI. | 然后你最后成为AGI ASI. |
| 1474 | And it seems like LLMs have been this sort of | 似乎LLMS是这种 |
| 1475 | orthogonal move from that, | 向上移动, |
| 1476 | which are you saying you don't believe | 你说你不相信 |
| 1477 | they are a step on that? | 他们就是一步? |
| 1478 | It's kind of a little bit of an additional branch. | 有点像一个额外的分支。 |
| 1479 | 我觉得Stephen Wolfram会更好 | |
| 1480 | It's a different form of intelligence. | 谓智性不同. |
| 1481 | It's like, if you see a jaguar in the jungle, | 这就像,如果你看到一只美洲虎 在丛林, |
| 1482 | it has a different form of intelligence. | 它有不同形式的智能。 |
| 1483 | And you're like, a plant has a form of intelligence, | 而你喜欢,一种植物 有一种智能形式, |
| 1484 | how it can like photosynthesize and grow. | 如何可以喜欢光合作用和生长。 |
| 1485 | It's a different form of intelligence. | 谓智性不同. |
| 1486 | It's not, and intelligence again, | 不是的 又是情报 |
| 1487 | like love or like happiness is overloaded word | 喜欢爱或喜欢幸福 是超载的词 |
| 1488 | that means many things to many people. | 这对很多人来说意味着很多 |
| 1489 | But by my definition, where, you know, | 但根据我的定义,在哪里,你知道, |
| 1490 | the true test is you get what you want out of life. | 真正的考验是 你得到了你想要的生活。 |
| 1491 | It doesn't even have a life. | 乃至无生. |
| 1492 | It doesn't even want anything. | 它甚至不想要任何东西。 |
| 1493 | It's just a different thing. | 虽有不同. |
| 1494 | I do think it's unbelievably useful. | 我觉得这实在是太有用了 |
| 1495 | I'm glad that it exists. | 我很高兴它存在。 |
| 1496 | You don't see it much yet in large scale production systems | 在大型生产系统中你还看不出来很多 |
| 1497 | replacing humans because of this tendency to hallucinate. | 由于这种幻觉倾向而取代人类. |
| 1498 | So you can't put it into anything mission critical. | 所以,你不能把它 任何任务的关键。 |
| 1499 | Confidently wrong one time out of 10. | 确信错误 一次10。 |
| 1500 | Correct. | 没错 |
| 1501 | And it doesn't even know when it's wrong. | 而且它甚至不知道什么时候错了。 |
| 1502 | And maybe they'll get that one out of 10 | 也许他们会得到10分之一 |
| 1503 | down to one out of a hundred, | 降为百分之一, |
| 1504 | but you'll kind of always want human oversight | 但你总是想要人监督 |
| 1505 | for critical, critical things. | 对于关键,关键的东西。 |
| 1506 | I always feel so bitter. | 我总觉得很苦 |
| 1507 | I'm petty sometimes. | 我有时候很小气 |
| 1508 | My less equanimous version of me is petty. | 我不那么平淡的版本是微不足道的。 |
| 1509 | And I always want to like teach it a lesson | 我一直想教训他 |
| 1510 | if it gets something wrong. | 如果有问题的话 |
| 1511 | Like how the fuck? | 怎么样? |
| 1512 | Like, no, you were so comfortable. | 喜欢,不,你是如此舒适。 |
| 1513 | I'm treating it, but I'm anthroposizing, anthroposizing. | 我在治疗它, 但我在人类化,人类化。 |
| 1514 | It doesn't have a point of view. | 亦无所观. |
| 1515 | And they are gonna get a lot better. | 而且他们会得到很多更好的。 |
| 1516 | And they might get to the point | 他们可能会说重点 |
| 1517 | where the error rates are so low | 错误率太低的地方 |
| 1518 | that you can put them into certain bounded problems. | 你可以把它们 进入某些有限度的问题。 |
| 1519 | Like self-driving I think will be solved completely | 像自驾车一样,我想会彻底解决的 |
| 1520 | because it's a bounded problem. | 因为它是一个有界限的问题。 |
| 1521 | Cars don't, you know, go like off road | 汽车不会,你知道的,去像路外 |
| 1522 | and drive through houses and stuff like that, right? | 开车穿过房子之类的东西,对吧? |
| 1523 | Because, and same way, like certain kinds of coding, | 因为,同样的方式, 像某些类型的编码, |
| 1524 | the creative side of coding I think doesn't go away. | 编译的创造力是不会消失的 |
| 1525 | I think if anything, | 我想如果有的话, |
| 1526 | programmers get even more leveraged and more powerful. | 程序员获得更多的杠杆和力量。 |
| 1527 | And rather than computing or replacing programmers, | 而不是计算或替换程序员, |
| 1528 | programmers use AI to replace everybody else. | 程序员使用AI来代替其他人. |
| 1529 | On Tesla versus Waymo, | 关于特斯拉对韦莫, |
| 1530 | would you bet on software or hardware for self-driving? | 你会在软件或硬件上下注 自行驾驶? |
| 1531 | Yeah, so I think Tesla's | 是啊,所以我认为特斯拉 |
| 1532 | in the stronger longer-term position, | 处于较强的长期地位, |
| 1533 | but it's hard to argue what's working right now. | 但现在很难辩驳什么是可行的 |
| 1534 | Waymo现在在工作 | |
| 1535 | So I would not underestimate them | 所以我不会低估他们 |
| 1536 | because there's a learning curve that you go through | 因为有一个学习曲线 你走 |
| 1537 | when you actually deploy something. | 当你真正部署的东西。 |
| 1538 | And Waymo is way ahead in that regard, | 而Waymo是领先的 在这方面, |
| 1539 | but Tesla's camera-only approach, if it works, | 但特斯拉的只摄像头方法,如果它有用, |
| 1540 | is superior, it's much more scalable. | 超强的,更可伸缩 |
| 1541 | And Tesla knows how to print cars, right? | 特斯拉知道怎么打印车,对吧? |
| 1542 | They can just mass manufacture cars. | 他们只能制造大量汽车。 |
| 1543 | But I think they'll both be around, they'll both be fine. | 但我认为他们都会在身边 他们都会好起来的 |
| 1544 | It's everybody else | 是别人 |
| 1545 | who doesn't have a self-driving vehicle that's screwed. | 他们没有自驾车 被搞砸了。 |
| 1546 | You mentioned kids there, | 你提到孩子们在那里, |
| 1547 | and you had a tweet that said, | 你有一个微博说, |
| 1548 | I'm not convinced that declining fertility | 我不认为生育率下降 |
| 1549 | needs to be proactively fought. | 需要积极主动地进行斗争。 |
| 1550 | I forgot that one. | 我忘了那个 |
| 1551 | I dug deep. | 我深挖过 |
| 1552 | Why? | 为什么? |
| 1553 | Well, I mean, think back. | 嗯,我的意思是,回想起来。 |
| 1554 | Like, what was it, 30 years ago, 20 years ago, | 比如说,是什么,30年前,20年前, |
| 1555 | everybody was saying overpopulation of the earth | 大家都说地球人口过多 |
| 1556 | is gonna be a problem, Malthusian ending, | 会是一个问题,马尔萨斯结局, |
| 1557 | we're gonna have too many people, | 我们会有太多的人, |
| 1558 | and now all of a sudden we're gonna have too few people. | 现在突然间我们的人太少了 |
| 1559 | So part of it is just, | 所以其中一部分只是, |
| 1560 | the doomer is a meme is always alive and well, right? | 家喻户晓的是一个迷宫 总是活着的,对不对? |
| 1561 | It just gets repackaged. | 它只是被重新包装。 |
| 1562 | Yeah, we're running out of oil, we have too much oil, right? | 是的,我们用完了石油,我们有太多的石油,对不对? |
| 1563 | It's like, the world is cooling, the world is warming. | 这就像,世界在冷却,世界在变暖。 |
| 1564 | Like, there's always something to scream about, | 喜欢,总是有 东西尖叫, |
| 1565 | the world is ending. | 世界即将结束。 |
| 1566 | There's no progress in technology, | 科技没有进步, |
| 1567 | AI is gonna blow up the world, right? | AI会炸掉世界,对吧? |
| 1568 | So people tend to overdo in both directions. | 故人往往双向过度. |
| 1569 | Now, what is the actual fertility problem, right? | 真正的生育问题是什么? |
| 1570 | Well, people are having less kids. | 人们的孩子越来越少 |
| 1571 | Are they having less kids because there's a disease? | 他们的孩子少是因为有疾病吗? |
| 1572 | Was there a virus? | 有病毒吗? |
| 1573 | Did they lose their fertility? | 他们失去生育力了吗? |
| 1574 | Is it microplastics in the testicles, right? | 睾丸里是微塑料吗? |
| 1575 | No, it's people are having less kids | 不,是人们没有孩子 |
| 1576 | because they're choosing to have less kids, right? | 因为他们选择少生孩子,对吧? |
| 1577 | Women have gotten emancipation independence | 妇女获得了独立 |
| 1578 | in the workforce and they're making more money. | 在劳动力中 他们赚的更多钱。 |
| 1579 | People don't need kids as an insurance policy, | 人们不需要孩子作为保险金 |
| 1580 | so they have less kids. | 所以他们的孩子更少。 |
| 1581 | Maybe they're living hedonistic lives, God bless them, right? | 也许他们是活的享乐生活 上帝保佑他们 对吧? |
| 1582 | They wanna have more fun, they wanna have less kids. | 他们想要更多的乐趣, 他们想少生孩子。 |
| 1583 | I don't see the act of choosing | 我没有看到选择的行为 |
| 1584 | to have less kids as a problem, okay? | 少生孩子是个问题,好吗? |
| 1585 | So let's move one level up. | 因此,让我们把一个级别提高。 |
| 1586 | It's because the retirees, | 因为退休人员 |
| 1587 | it's because a large percentage of the population | 这是因为大部分人口 |
| 1588 | is essentially retiring at the guaranteed age of 65 or 70, | 基本退休年龄为65岁或70岁; |
| 1589 | thanks to Social Security. | 感谢社会保障。 |
| 1590 | And so they need other people to pay for it. | 所以他们需要其他人来支付 |
| 1591 | They need more workers in the workforce. | 他们需要更多的劳动力。 |
| 1592 | And if the workforce is shrinking, | 如果劳动力正在减少, |
| 1593 | then you have a small number of people, exactly, | 然后,你还有一小部分人, |
| 1594 | who are supporting a large number of retirees. | 他们支持大量退休人员。 |
| 1595 | And in democracies, you can't take pensions away, | 在民主国家,养老金不能被拿走, |
| 1596 | the voters vote you out. | 选民投票你。 |
| 1597 | So they slowly strangle the economy. | 所以他们慢慢扼杀经济。 |
| 1598 | So what do you do? | 那你怎么办? |
| 1599 | Then you have a bunch of immigration | 那你有一堆移民 |
| 1600 | and then the whole culture changes. | 然后整个文化就变了 |
| 1601 | You end up in a low trust society | 你最终陷入了不信任的社会 |
| 1602 | and people start fighting over limited resources | 人们为了有限的资源而开始争斗 |
| 1603 | and how do you control which immigrants come in? | 你怎么控制哪个移民进来的? |
| 1604 | How do you make sure that they're good taxpayers | 你怎么确定他们是好纳税人? |
| 1605 | after they're in and so on? | 在他们进来之后? |
| 1606 | So you end up in kind of this trap | 所以,你最后会变成这样的陷阱 |
| 1607 | where the low fertility rate is upstream | 低生育率的上游地区 |
| 1608 | of the downstream problems that are cultural and societal. | 文化和社会问题。 |
| 1609 | But I'm not sure that you're gonna solve that | 但我不确定你会解决的 |
| 1610 | by making people have more kids. | 通过让人们有更多的孩子。 |
| 1611 | How are you gonna meme them into having more kids? | 你要怎么让他们多生孩子? |
| 1612 | And I'm not even sure it's necessarily a problem | 我甚至不确定这一定是个问题 |
| 1613 | because keep in mind, you have more resources now. | 因为记住 你现在有更多的资源了 |
| 1614 | You have less of a burden. | 你负担比较轻 |
| 1615 | Now there's a flip side where every kid | 现在有一个反面 每个孩子 |
| 1616 | has a lottery ticket and an invention. | 有彩票和发明 |
| 1617 | So there's some benefit to having more kids, | 因此,有一些好处 拥有更多的孩子, |
| 1618 | but you can't force it. | 但你不能强迫它。 |
| 1619 | I think it'll work itself out, right? | 我想这会解决的,对不对? |
| 1620 | The Scott Adams is this great law | 斯科特·亚当斯是伟大的法律 |
| 1621 | which calls the Adams law of slow moving disasters. | 它称亚当斯定律 缓慢移动的灾难。 |
| 1622 | When disasters are very slow moving, | 当灾难移动非常缓慢时, |
| 1623 | like peak oil or global warming or population collapse, | 如石油峰值或全球变暖或人口崩溃, |
| 1624 | and everyone can kind of see them coming. | 所有人都能看到他们来 |
| 1625 | Economics and society is a force to solve them | 经济和社会是解决问题的力量 |
| 1626 | because enough individual people | 因为足够个人 |
| 1627 | has incentives to go solve them. | 有激励他们去解决。 |
| 1628 | So I don't know exactly how it gets solved, | 我不知道怎么解决的 |
| 1629 | but I think it could get solved in various ways. | 但我认为它可以 以各种方式解决。 |
| 1630 | One example could be maybe people retire later. | 一个例子可能是人们后来退休。 |
| 1631 | Maybe AI and automation and robots | 也许是人工智能 自动化和机器人 |
| 1632 | take care of the older people. | 照顾老人。 |
| 1633 | Maybe we figure out how to have immigrants | 也许我们想出办法让移民来 |
| 1634 | while still keeping a high trust society. | 同时也保持高度信任的社会 |
| 1635 | We kind of put more rules around immigration | 我们把更多的规则 移民 |
| 1636 | that protects some of the high trust benefits. | 保护一些高度信任的利益 |
| 1637 | Maybe we outsource more things. | 也许我们把更多的事情外包出去 |
| 1638 | Maybe we just have more land and housing to go around. | 也许我们只有更多的土地和住房可以绕过去。 |
| 1639 | Believe me, if we were having too many kids, | 相信我,如果我们有太多的孩子, |
| 1640 | everybody would be complaining about | 每个人都会抱怨 |
| 1641 | how there's no housing and there's no land, right? | 怎么样没有住房 没有土地,对不对? |
| 1642 | So they'll always find something to care about. | 所以他们总能找到值得关心的东西 |
| 1643 | So I just don't view this as like a thing | 所以我不认为这是一件事情 |
| 1644 | that any individual or government action is going to solve. | 任何个人或政府的行动都将得到解决。 |
| 1645 | I think economics and incentives over time will solve it. | 我认为,随着时间推移,经济学和激励措施将解决这个问题。 |
| 1646 | And I'm not even convinced it's like that big of a problem. | 我甚至不相信这有那么大问题 |
| 1647 | Is there anything that you do think is a sufficient? | 你觉得有什么足够吗? |
| 1648 | It may be self-correcting too, | 也可能是自我矫正 |
| 1649 | which is that if there are too few kids in society | 如果社会上的孩子太少 |
| 1650 | and the returns to having kids literally might just go up. | 生孩子的回报 可能只是上升。 |
| 1651 | It might just be easier to have kids. | 生孩子可能比较容易 |
| 1652 | The incentive to now have a child | 现在有孩子的动机 |
| 1653 | because there's so few around. | 因为周围的人很少 |
| 1654 | They're going to get the best job. | 他们会得到最好的工作。 |
| 1655 | They're going to have more self-opportunities. | 他们将会有更多的自我机会。 |
| 1656 | They got the best jobs and the best resources. | 他们得到了最好的工作和最好的资源。 |
| 1657 | Like everyone wants to, everyone's happy to see kids. | 就像大家想的,每个人都很高兴看到孩子。 |
| 1658 | I suppose if you could come at it from a pain side, | 如果你能从痛苦的一面来看 |
| 1659 | which is you look at all of the other people around | 你看着周围的其他人 |
| 1660 | who don't have kids. | 没有孩子 |
| 1661 | Let's say that pensions completely drop off | 这么说吧 退休金完全没了 |
| 1662 | and the only way that old people are able to survive | 也是老人能够生存的唯一方法 |
| 1663 | is if their children pay them some sort of stipend, | 如果他们的孩子给他们一些津贴, |
| 1664 | reverse, send money back up to generations. | 反之,寄钱回代. |
| 1665 | You go, well, that's a pretty fucking good incentive. | 你去吧,好吧, 这是一个相当他妈的好奖励。 |
| 1666 | That's a good incentive. | 这是很好的激励。 |
| 1667 | I also think that people have been memed into thinking | 我也认为人们被说服思考 |
| 1668 | that kids make your life worse. | 孩子们让你的生活更糟 |
| 1669 | And that's a pretty bad- | 这是相当糟糕的 -- |
| 1670 | What's your experience been? | 你的经历如何? |
| 1671 | Kids make your life better in every possible way. | 孩子们会以各种方式改善你的生活 |
| 1672 | If you want an automatic built-in meeting to life, | 如果你想要一个 自动内置的见面生活, |
| 1673 | have kids. | 有孩子吗? |
| 1674 | And I think there are these bad psych studies, | 我认为这些糟糕的心理研究, |
| 1675 | like most psych studies, unfortunately, | 就像大多数的心理研究, 不幸的是, |
| 1676 | that say that people are unhappy when they have kids. | 说人们有孩子的时候很不高兴 |
| 1677 | Yeah, it's because you're catching in the middle | 是啊,因为你在中间抓住 |
| 1678 | of changing a diaper and you're saying, | 换尿布 你说 |
| 1679 | are you glad you had kids or not? | 你高兴你有没有孩子? |
| 1680 | They don't even say that. | 他们甚至不说。 |
| 1681 | They say, are you happy or not? | 他们说,你是否快乐? |
| 1682 | And they say, no, I'm not happy right now. | 他们说,不,我现在不高兴。 |
| 1683 | But what they don't realize is that person | 但是他们不知道的是那个人 |
| 1684 | has found something more important | 找到了更重要的东西 |
| 1685 | than being happy in the moment. | 而不是现在快乐 |
| 1686 | They found meaning and the meaning comes from kids. | 他们找到了意义,意义来自孩子。 |
| 1687 | And if you ask parents, do you regret having kids? | 如果你问父母 你后悔生孩子吗? |
| 1688 | I think it would be 99 to one against, | 我认为是99比1对 |
| 1689 | it would be, no, I don't regret having kids. | 不,我对生孩子不后悔 |
| 1690 | I love having kids. | 我喜欢有孩子 |
| 1691 | I'm so glad I had kids. | 我很高兴我有孩子。 |
| 1692 | It's incredibly rare to meet a parent | 见到父母太少见了 |
| 1693 | that regretted having children. | 很遗憾有孩子。 |
| 1694 | It's pretty good on. | 这是相当不错的。 |
| 1695 | odds. | 概率。 |
| 1696 | It's, it's extremely good odds. | 这是,这是极好的机会。 |
| 1697 | And I think, so I think, I think a lot of people | 我想,所以我想,我觉得很多人 |
| 1698 | get late into life and, uh, you know, then they can't admit that they didn't want kids, | 晚到的生活,呃,你知道, 然后,他们不能承认 他们不希望孩子, |
| 1699 | that they should have had kids. | 他们应该有孩子。 |
| 1700 | It's kind of late in the game. | 游戏中有点晚了 |
| 1701 | Um, but you know, a lot | 嗯,但你知道,很多东西 |
| 1702 | of times you see everybody who has a pet, right? | 你见过每个有宠物的人 对吧? |
| 1703 | Uh, and they're pushing them around | 呃,他们推他们周围 |
| 1704 | in a stroller, right? | 在婴儿车,对不对? |
| 1705 | What is that? | 这是什么? |
| 1706 | That's a sublimated desire for children. | 这是对孩子的潜意识 |
| 1707 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 1708 | Uh, | 额... |
| 1709 | Malcolm Collins says that, uh, having a pet is to children is using porn is to sex. | Malcolm Collins说 给孩子养宠物 是用色情片来做爱 |
| 1710 | He | |
| 1711 | basically thinks that it's sort of a surrogate. | 基本上认为这是一种代孕. |
| 1712 | It's definitely in that direction. | 这绝对是朝那个方向。 |
| 1713 | And you | 还有你 |
| 1714 | know, I don't have, I like pets. | 我没有 我喜欢宠物 |
| 1715 | I like animals. | 我喜欢动物 |
| 1716 | I don't, but I don't like the idea of like | 我不知道 但我不喜欢这样 |
| 1717 | neutering or spaying something and then keeping it as a prisoner in the house and having to | 或支付一些东西, 然后把它作为一个囚犯 在家里,不得不 |
| 1718 | train it. | 训练它。 |
| 1719 | You know, it's just, I don't want to be responsible for that. | 你知道,这只是,我不想 负责这一点。 |
| 1720 | Given that you've | 鉴于你已经 |
| 1721 | been thinking more about child rearing kids, what do you hope that your kids learn from | 你希望你的孩子学到什么 |
| 1722 | their childhood? | 他们的童年? |
| 1723 | This is be happy and do what they want. | 这是幸福的,做他们想要的。 |
| 1724 | I don't, I don't, I don't have | 我没有,我没有,我没有 |
| 1725 | particular goals in mind for them. | 特别目标。 |
| 1726 | I think that's it. | 我想就这样 |
| 1727 | That's another route to unhappiness | 那是另一个不幸福的路 |
| 1728 | having different than learn, learn versus goals. | 学习与目标不同 |
| 1729 | It's not necessarily what do they want? | 他们不一定想要什么? |
| 1730 | What | 什麽? |
| 1731 | do you want them to want out of life? | 你想让他们离开生活吗? |
| 1732 | Like what is it that you had that idea around your | 就像你在你身边有这个想法一样 |
| 1733 | number one job as a parent is to provide unconditional love to your kids. | 做父母的第一工作 就是无条件爱孩子 |
| 1734 | Yeah, that's it. | 是的,就是这样。 |
| 1735 | Right. | 对 |
| 1736 | So I can be loved or I am loved unconditionally. | 这样我就可以被爱 或者无条件被爱 |
| 1737 | Is that one of the things I want my kids to | 那是我想要我的孩子做的事吗? |
| 1738 | feel unconditionally loved and I want them to have high self-esteem as a consequence | 感觉被无条件的爱着 我希望他们因此有很高的自尊 |
| 1739 | of that. | 就是这样 |
| 1740 | But I don't get to choose any, all I get to choose is my output. | 但我没有选择任何 我只能选择我的输出 |
| 1741 | I can output | 我可以输出 |
| 1742 | love. | 爱 |
| 1743 | I can't choose what they feel. | 我不能选择他们的感受。 |
| 1744 | I can't choose how they behave. | 我无法选择他们的行为 |
| 1745 | I can't choose what | 我无法选择什么 |
| 1746 | they want. | 他们想要。 |
| 1747 | I can't choose what they turn out to be. | 我不能选择他们变成什么 |
| 1748 | And downstream from that, there should | 下游应该有 |
| 1749 | be freedom. | 成为自由。 |
| 1750 | There should be a degree of freedom that comes from the self-esteem that comes | 应该有一定程度的自由 来自于自尊 |
| 1751 | from the unconditionality. | 从无条件。 |
| 1752 | They should make their own mistakes and learn their own lessons | 他们应该犯自己的错误,吸取自己的教训 |
| 1753 | and have their own desires and fulfill them as is appropriate. | 他们有自己的私欲,并满足他们的私欲。 |
| 1754 | I, like any parent, I wouldn't | 像父母一样,我不会 |
| 1755 | want them to be hurt. | 希望他们受伤。 |
| 1756 | I wouldn't want them to be unhappy, but I cannot control these | 我不想让他们不开心 但我不能控制这些 |
| 1757 | things. | 东西。 |
| 1758 | You replied to my friend, Rob Henderson. | 你回复了我的朋友罗布・亨德森 |
| 1759 | He was talking about how kids fall asleep | 他在说孩子们怎么睡着的 |
| 1760 | more quickly when they're being carried. | 越快,当他们被携带。 |
| 1761 | And you said cry it out and co-sleeping is dangerous. | 你说哭出来 睡在一起很危险 |
| 1762 | What's IYI science? | 什么是IYI科学? |
| 1763 | IYI is an Asim Taleb. | IYI是阿西姆·塔莱布的 |
| 1764 | It's about intellectual yet idiot. | 是关于知识分子还是白痴的 |
| 1765 | These are | 这些是 |
| 1766 | people who are overeducated and they deny like basic common sense. | 那些受过过多教育的人 却拒绝基本的常识 |
| 1767 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1768 | So there's | 这么说 |
| 1769 | a lot of that that goes on in child rearing, thanks to really bad studies and bad public | 在养育孩子方面,很多事情都发生了, 多亏学习成绩不好,公众也不好 |
| 1770 | medical directives. | 医疗指令。 |
| 1771 | So for example, a few parents, maybe they're drunk or they're high | 所以,比如说,几个父母, 也许他们喝醉了或者他们高 |
| 1772 | or they're just other issues and they roll over their kid when they're sleeping, the | 或者他们只是其他问题 当他们睡觉时 他们的孩子, |
| 1773 | kid suffocates or they neglect their kid and then they- | 孩子窒息 或者他们忽略了孩子 然后他们... |
| 1774 | So co-sleeping is having them in the bed. | 因此,共同睡眠是让他们在床上。 |
| 1775 | Yeah, exactly. | 没错 |
| 1776 | Or the modern proclamation. | 或现代宣说. |
| 1777 | And so because of that, they say, well, don't | 因此,他们说, 好了,不要 |
| 1778 | co-sleep with your kids. | 和你的孩子睡觉 |
| 1779 | Well, the kids in every society through all of human history | 嗯,每个社会的孩子 通过所有人类历史 |
| 1780 | co-slept with their parents. | 与父母同寝. |
| 1781 | Where else do you think they were sleeping? | 你觉得他们还在睡哪? |
| 1782 | They weren't | 他们不是 |
| 1783 | housed in multiple rooms. | 住多个房间。 |
| 1784 | We'll put them in the other tent. | 我们把他们放在另一个帐篷里 |
| 1785 | Yeah, exactly. | 没错 |
| 1786 | We'll put them in the other tent. | 我们把他们放在另一个帐篷里 |
| 1787 | It's just nonsense. | 胡说八道 |
| 1788 | Co-sleeping has | 一起睡觉 |
| 1789 | been around since the dawn of time. | 自古以来就一直如此 |
| 1790 | So has feeding kids cow milk or goat milk when breast | 给孩子喂奶和羊奶也一样 |
| 1791 | milk runs out or is not available. | 牛奶用完或没有。 |
| 1792 | Yet we're told formula made with soy and corn syrup, | 然而我们被告知配制的配方 用酱油和玉米糖浆, |
| 1793 | which was invented recently is somehow better than cow milk and cow milk can be dangerous | 最近发明的比奶牛和奶牛更危险 |
| 1794 | for your kids and co-sleeping is dangerous for your kids and cry it out is the right | 对于你的孩子和共同睡眠 对你的孩子是危险的 哭出来是正确的 |
| 1795 | answer. | 答问. |
| 1796 | All of that is nonsense. | 这一切都是胡说八道。 |
| 1797 | I mean, it's very clear that we raise children throughout | 我的意思是,这是非常明确的,我们抚养孩子 整个 |
| 1798 | human history without these interventions. | 没有这些干预的人类历史。 |
| 1799 | And to me, the idea that you're going to let | 对我来说,你打算让 |
| 1800 | your kid cry it out, I get why that's done for practical reasons so that you can get | 你的孩子哭出来,我知道为什么这样做 出于实际的原因,你可以得到 |
| 1801 | some sleep and you can go to work in the morning. | 睡一觉,你早上可以去上班 |
| 1802 | But the reality is when you let the kid cry | 但现实是你让孩子哭了 |
| 1803 | it out, you're letting the kid ball until it finally gives up. | 你让孩子打球 直到它最终放弃 |
| 1804 | I mean, a kid left by | 我的意思是,一个孩子离开 |
| 1805 | itself to cry it out. | 自己哭出来。 |
| 1806 | It's going to get eaten, right? | 它会被吃掉,对不对? |
| 1807 | It's going to get eaten by a tiger. | 必被虎所食. |
| 1808 | So this kid is starting off on the wrong foundation. | 所以这孩子开始 错误的基础。 |
| 1809 | The one I mentioned earlier about the idea | 我之前提到的那个想法 |
| 1810 | that babies don't feel pain, like that's ludicrous, right? | 婴儿不感到痛苦, 喜欢这是可笑的,对不对? |
| 1811 | I've never heard that before. | 我从来没有听说过。 |
| 1812 | That's such a wild idea. | 这主意真疯狂 |
| 1813 | Yeah, I'm not saying that's a hundred percent true. | 是啊,我不是说这是100%的真理。 |
| 1814 | I read it on Twitter and I did one level | 我在推特上看到,我做了一个关卡 |
| 1815 | confirmation on it, but it's so ludicrous that I should probably do two or three level | 上面写着,但太可笑了,我应该做两三个层次 |
| 1816 | confirmations on it before I talk about it. | 在我说之前就确认过了 |
| 1817 | But there are definitely some people who believe | 但肯定有些人相信 |
| 1818 | that they're enough that it was a thing in certain circles for a while. | 他们已经足够了 这在某个圈子里是件事情 |
| 1819 | But I think we | 但我认为我们 |
| 1820 | just go through these, you know, these IYI beliefs, these intellectual beliefs come from | 只要通过这些,你知道, 这些IYI信仰, 这些知识信仰来自 |
| 1821 | people who take a little bit of knowledge and extrapolate it too far. | 那些拿一点点知识 推论过深的人 |
| 1822 | They think we | 他们认为我们 |
| 1823 | know more than we know due to recent scientific studies. | 由于最近的科学研究,我们知道的比我们知道的多。 |
| 1824 | And these are junk science. | 这些是垃圾科学。 |
| 1825 | These | 这些 |
| 1826 | are low power studies on, you know, on very certain contexts that then get over applied. | 低功率的研究,你知道, 关于非常 某些环境,然后得到过应用。 |
| 1827 | Behavioral psych is very guilty of this, but it's true across a lot of science. | 行为心理学对此非常内疚,但在许多科学上都是真实的. |
| 1828 | So even | 所以连 |
| 1829 | with science, you have to be skeptical. | 科学,你必须怀疑。 |
| 1830 | You have to look very carefully at, you know, | 你得仔细看看,你知道, |
| 1831 | does it apply in the right context or not? | 它是否适用于正确的上下文? |
| 1832 | Has it come from good sources? | 是来自好来源吗? |
| 1833 | Did they run | 他们跑了吗? |
| 1834 | enough high power studies? | 足够高功率研究了吗? |
| 1835 | Is it widely accepted? | 它被广泛接受吗? |
| 1836 | And there are a whole bunch of things you're | 有一大堆东西你 |
| 1837 | just not supposed to talk about. | 只是不应该谈论。 |
| 1838 | You're not supposed to say, like you don't say, like | 你不应该说,像你没有说,喜欢 |
| 1839 | you can't say anything negative about a vaccine because God forbid, what if they don't get | 你不能说任何负面的疫苗 因为上帝禁止, 如果他们没有得到 |
| 1840 | And that's part of the reason why the recent vaccine debate, because we've taken our worship | 这也是最近疫苗争论的原因 因为我们崇拜了 |
| 1841 | for vaccines too far, because we don't want people to not take non-essential vaccines. | 因为疫苗太远了,因为我们不希望人们不服用非必需的疫苗. |
| 1842 | So it gets overdone. | 所以它变得过度。 |
| 1843 | So the same way there's this whole SIDS thing, sudden infant death | 所以,同样的方式有 整个小岛屿发展中国家的事情, 婴儿突然死亡 |
| 1844 | syndrome, right? | 综合症,对不对? |
| 1845 | I was like, no, there's kids don't suddenly mysteriously die. | 我当时想,不, 有孩子不会突然神秘地死去。 |
| 1846 | Like more | 喜欢更多 |
| 1847 | likely there was neglect or there was a problem. | 可能存在疏忽或问题。 |
| 1848 | And then whoever was the caretaker doesn't | 而谁是看守者 不 |
| 1849 | want to admit to the problem or didn't recognize the problem, but kids don't just spontaneously | 想要承认问题 或不承认问题, 但孩子不只是自发的 |
| 1850 | die in the crib, right? | 死在婴儿床,对不对? |
| 1851 | So they talk about swaddling babies. | 所以他们谈的是摇摇欲坠的婴儿 |
| 1852 | You swaddle babies, you | 你摇晃的婴儿,你 |
| 1853 | know, basically tie them up, mummify them. | 基本上把它们绑起来 做木乃伊 |
| 1854 | So you constrict them. | 所以,你收缩他们。 |
| 1855 | So then die of SIDS | 所以,然后死于小岛屿发展中国家 |
| 1856 | when they roll over and they can't get back. | 当他们翻过来, 他们不能回来。 |
| 1857 | I mean, it's just all this craziness around | 我的意思是,这只是 这一切疯狂围绕 |
| 1858 | child raising. | 养育子女。 |
| 1859 | It's a real minefield. | 这是一个真正的雷区。 |
| 1860 | It's a minefield. | 这是一个雷区。 |
| 1861 | And, you know, you have these | 而且,你知道,你有这些 |
| 1862 | scared parents, they're having a kid for the first time and they open a book and they start | 害怕的父母,他们有孩子 第一次,他们打开一本书,开始 |
| 1863 | reading how to raise children. | 阅读如何抚养孩子。 |
| 1864 | I would argue that your natural instincts and what to do | 我会说,你的自然本能和做什么 |
| 1865 | with your child are actually pretty good. | 你的孩子其实还不错 |
| 1866 | It's funny when my wife and I had our first | 这很有趣,当我和我妻子有我们的第一个 |
| 1867 | baby, I remember, you know, at the hospital, sorry, the first one, the natural birth at | 宝贝,我记得,你知道, 在医院,对不起, 第一个,自然出生在 |
| 1868 | the birthing center, we went home and it was like, there you go. | 分娩中心,我们回家,就像,你去那里。 |
| 1869 | That's it. | 就这样 |
| 1870 | And we're like, | 我们就像, |
| 1871 | what do we do? | 我们该怎么办? |
| 1872 | Where's the instruction manual? | 指导手册呢? |
| 1873 | You take them home and then you relax and | 你带他们回家 然后放松 |
| 1874 | you realize actually instincts are pretty good. | 你知道本能是相当不错的。 |
| 1875 | You know, if the kid cries, check to | 你知道,如果孩子哭,检查 |
| 1876 | see the clean, feed them, all that. | 看到干净的,喂他们,这一切。 |
| 1877 | It's like your basic instincts are actually very, very | 就像你的基本本能 实际上是非常,非常 |
| 1878 | good. | 不错 |
| 1879 | And kids' instincts are actually very, very good. | 孩子们的直觉是非常好的。 |
| 1880 | They know what they want and they | 他们知道他们想要什么,他们 |
| 1881 | want things for a reason. | 想要的东西是有原因的。 |
| 1882 | And they can encourage you to give it to them. | 他们可以鼓励你给他们 |
| 1883 | Yes. | 对 |
| 1884 | It's usually children | 通常都是孩子们 |
| 1885 | are not deficient adults who can't reason. | 不是没有道理的成年人 |
| 1886 | And to some extent that's true, but mostly | 在某种程度上,这是真的, 但大多数 |
| 1887 | it's not true. | 这不是真的。 |
| 1888 | Mostly they have very good reasons for what they want. | 他们大多有他们想要的很好的理由。 |
| 1889 | And you as a parent | 而你作为父母 |
| 1890 | mostly have communication problems with them. | 他们大多有沟通问题。 |
| 1891 | They can't yet communicate to you. | 他们还不能跟你沟通 |
| 1892 | You can't | 你不能这样 |
| 1893 | communicate to them. | 与他们沟通。 |
| 1894 | They can't communicate to you. | 他们不能跟你沟通 |
| 1895 | So early on with my kids, I tried | 这么早和孩子们在一起 我试过 |
| 1896 | to focus on teaching them, you know, basic explanatory theories and having to memorize | 专注于教导他们,你知道, 基本的解释理论和必须记住 |
| 1897 | things. | 东西。 |
| 1898 | That's just the most, the most novel solution. | 这是最新颖的解决办法 |
| 1899 | I'll give you, I'll give you a very simple example. | 我给你们一个非常简单的例子 |
| 1900 | Right. | 对 |
| 1901 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1902 | So this is Twitter and this is, this is the how to get rich without getting | 所以这是Twitter,这是,这是怎么发财而不发财 |
| 1903 | lucky thread. | 幸运线。 |
| 1904 | So the first one. | 故第一义. |
| 1905 | Well, a simple one is, you know, how does knowledge get created? | 很简单,知识是如何创造的? |
| 1906 | If you follow the critical | 如果你跟随关键 |
| 1907 | David Deutsch philosophy, then it's by guessing and then by testing your guesses. | David Deutsch哲学,然后是猜测,然后测试你的猜测。 |
| 1908 | So whenever | 所以无论何时 |
| 1909 | they ask me something like, well, why do you think that is? | 他们问我,嗯,你为什么认为是? |
| 1910 | Well, how would we figure out | 那么,我们如何想出 |
| 1911 | if that's true? | 如果这是真的呢? |
| 1912 | Right. | 对 |
| 1913 | So that's a basic game you can play. | 所以这是你可以玩的基本游戏。 |
| 1914 | Involving them, involving them. | 涉及他们,涉及他们。 |
| 1915 | But another one is that a lot of the rules that you teach kids have to do with hygiene, | 但另一个问题是,很多规则 你教孩子们与卫生, |
| 1916 | right? | 对吧? |
| 1917 | You must brush your teeth, you know, cover your mouth when you cough, you know, | 你必须刷牙,你知道, 遮住嘴 当你咳嗽,你知道, |
| 1918 | clean up after yourself. | 自己收拾干净 |
| 1919 | Don't touch that. | 别碰那个 |
| 1920 | Wash your hands after you do this. | 这样做后洗手. |
| 1921 | Don't eat | 别吃东西 |
| 1922 | off the floor. | 离开地板。 |
| 1923 | Right. | 对 |
| 1924 | But all of these are subsumed under the germ theory of disease. | 但是所有这些都包含在病菌理论中。 |
| 1925 | Right. | 对 |
| 1926 | So if you instead go on YouTube and show them videos of germs, or if you have | 所以如果你在YouTube上给他们看细菌的视频 或者你有 |
| 1927 | them look under a microscope at anything, they're like, ah, there's creepy crawlies everywhere. | 他们看着显微镜下的一切, 他们就像,啊,到处都有可怕的爬行动物。 |
| 1928 | And I got to watch out for them. | 我得小心他们 |
| 1929 | And then, you know, you can talk about how, if you look | 然后,你知道,你可以 谈论如何,如果你看起来 |
| 1930 | at humans, like our real enemy are pathogens. | 我们真正的敌人就是病原体 |
| 1931 | I think a lot of aging and disease are actually | 我觉得很多衰老和疾病其实 |
| 1932 | downstream of our competition with pathogens over time to a point that people still don't fully | 在我们与病原体的竞争的下游 一段时间, 以至于人们仍然不完全 |
| 1933 | appreciate. | 谢谢 |
| 1934 | There's a Red Queen hypothesis, which is that we undergo sexual selection to mix up our | 有个红皇后假说,就是我们接受性选择 来混合我们 |
| 1935 | genes. | 遗传学 |
| 1936 | And so every 20 years, every generation mix up your genes. | 因此,每隔20年, 每一代人的基因都混合在一起。 |
| 1937 | But if you look at how bacteria | 但是,如果你看看如何细菌 |
| 1938 | and viruses mutate through just random mutations, their mix up rate on their genes and evolution | 病毒通过随机突变 基因和进化的混合率 |
| 1939 | rate is roughly the same as ours, even though they go through thousands of generations those 20 years, | 率和我们差不多 虽然这20年他们经历了数千代人 |
| 1940 | because they're not doing sexual selection. | 因为他们不做性选择。 |
| 1941 | They're doing asexual replication mutation. | 他们在做性复制突变 |
| 1942 | Their evolutionary rate is roughly equivalent to ours. | 他们的进化率大致相当于我们的。 |
| 1943 | So we're in a Red Queen race where | 所以我们在红皇后赛场上 |
| 1944 | we're both running at roughly the same speed, using very different strategies. | 我们运行的速度大致相同, 使用非常不同的策略。 |
| 1945 | But | 不过 |
| 1946 | a lot of how we're involved is around pathogens. | 我们参与的很多事情 都围绕着病原体 |
| 1947 | Like our immune system is one of the most expensive | 就像我们的免疫系统是最昂贵的 |
| 1948 | things to run the body. | 东西运行身体。 |
| 1949 | So much is about immune system optimization. | 因此,重要的是免疫系统优化。 |
| 1950 | That's about pathogens, | 这是关于病原体, |
| 1951 | junk DNA and bacteria. | 垃圾DNA和细菌。 |
| 1952 | And CRISPR was discovered because in bacteria, their DNA is evolved to fight | 而CRISPR被发现是因为在细菌中,它们的DNA被进化为战斗 |
| 1953 | 病毒(英语:Virus). | |
| 1954 | And the way it does that is by taking viral DNA and snipping it up every time there's | 这样做的方式就是把病毒DNA提取出来 然后每一次把它吸出来 |
| 1955 | a viral attack and storing it in their own DNA so they have a copy so they can recognize it next | 病毒攻击 并储存在自己的DNA里 这样他们就有一份副本 这样他们就可以认出来 |
| 1956 | time it attacks and so on. | 时间,它攻击等等。 |
| 1957 | A lot of the population structure of species determines how long their | 许多物种的种群结构决定了它们的寿命 |
| 1958 | lifespans are. | 寿命是。 |
| 1959 | So if in a given species, there's a very high rate of infection, then you'll have | 因此,如果在特定物种中, 有非常高的感染率, 那么,你会有 |
| 1960 | older members of the population are carrying diseases that will then infect the young. | 老年人口携带疾病,然后感染年轻人。 |
| 1961 | So it's important for that species to get rid of the old faster. | 因此,该物种必须更快地摆脱旧的. |
| 1962 | So the higher the disease rate | 病率越高 |
| 1963 | in a given population, the less long lived the entire population. | 在某一人口中,整个人口居住的时间越短。 |
| 1964 | So the older ones don't infect | 所以老人不会感染 |
| 1965 | the younger ones. | 年轻的 |
| 1966 | That's a hypothesis. | 这是假设 |
| 1967 | It's an interesting hypothesis. | 这是一个有趣的假设。 |
| 1968 | Homeostasis within the | 目标 |
| 1969 | human body, how we're always returning to a given level of things. | 人的身体,我们如何总是回到 特定的水平的东西。 |
| 1970 | That's a fundamental part of our | 那是我们根本的一部分 |
| 1971 | If you engage in any kind of signaling, like you take a peptide, for example, that's a signaling | 如果你参与任何种类的信号, 就像你拿一个peptide, 例如,这是一个信号 |
| 1972 | molecule, you take a hormone externally, the body will counteract it. | 分子,你取一个激素 外部,身体会抵消它。 |
| 1973 | You take testosterone, | 你服用睾丸酮, |
| 1974 | the body will down-regulate its own production very fast. | 身体会非常快地 降低自身产量的调节 |
| 1975 | And the body releases its own hormones | 身体释放出自己的荷尔蒙 |
| 1976 | and pulses rather than steady state. | 和脉搏,而不是稳定状态。 |
| 1977 | Why is that? | 为什么? |
| 1978 | Well, that's because bacteria and viruses can | 因为细菌和病毒可以 |
| 1979 | infect your body and trick your body. | 感染你的身体并欺骗你的身体。 |
| 1980 | They can take it over. | 他们可以接手 |
| 1981 | Toxoplasmosis does this. | 肿瘤会这样 |
| 1982 | Rabies does | 狂犬病确实如此 |
| 1983 | take over macroscopic structure, structural bodies and small bacteria and viruses would | 接管宏观结构、结构体以及小细菌和病毒 |
| 1984 | hack our bodies and literally take them over if we didn't have defense mechanisms. | 黑进我们的身体 如果我们没有防御机制 就直接接管他们 |
| 1985 | And one of | 还有一个 |
| 1986 | those defense mechanisms is homeostasis. | 这些防御机制是自制的。 |
| 1987 | Anytime you see something getting out of whack, you | 每当你看到什么 摆脱了,你 |
| 1988 | immediately push back really hard on it. | 立即用力推倒它。 |
| 1989 | Because like, did I just get infected as something trying | 因为像,我只是 被感染的东西尝试 |
| 1990 | to take me over? | 要接管我吗? |
| 1991 | It's also why hormones get released in pulses at night rather than in steady state | 这也是为什么激素在晚上的脉搏中释放而不是稳定状态 |
| 1992 | low levels because enemy bacteria can release toxins or the same signaling molecules in small | 低浓度,因为敌人细菌会释放毒素 或相同的信号分子在小。 |
| 1993 | quantities, but they can't pulse. | 数量,但他们不能脉冲。 |
| 1994 | They can't coordinate to pulse. | 他们不能协调到脉搏。 |
| 1995 | So your body can coordinate | 让你的身体能够协调 |
| 1996 | to pulse as a macroscopic object, but microscopic objects can coordinate to create the same pulses. | 作为宏观对象的脉冲,但微观对象可以协调生成相同的脉冲。 |
| 1997 | Oh, that's cool. | 哦,这很酷。 |
| 1998 | So you know that it's coming from you. | 故知其从. |
| 1999 | Is that why? | 这就是为什么? |
| 2000 | Correct. | 没错 |
| 2001 | You know it's endogenous rather than exogenous. | 你知道这是内生而不是外生的 |
| 2002 | I never knew that. | 我从不知道 |
| 2003 | That's why we | 这就是为什么我们 |
| 2004 | resist a lot of exogenous treatments and a lot of our medical treatments don't work. | 抵制许多外来治疗,我们的许多医疗不起作用. |
| 2005 | Anyway, so there's a bunch more I could go on, but I think that a lot of you see this in cancers | 无论如何,所以还有一堆我可以继续, 但我认为,很多人看到这一点 在癌症 |
| 2006 | where a lot of bacteria show up. | 很多细菌出现的地方 |
| 2007 | The Epstein-Barr virus shows up in a lot of cancers and now it | 爱泼斯坦-巴尔病毒出现在很多癌症中,现在它 |
| 2008 | seems like the gut microbiome influences so many things. | 似乎肠道微生物 影响这么多的事情。 |
| 2009 | Basically, bacteria and viruses are at the | 基本上,细菌和病毒在 |
| 2010 | top of the food chain compared to us. | 食物链的顶端 与我们相比 |
| 2011 | Like we are top of the well-known food chain, but bacteria | 就像我们是著名食物链的顶端 但是细菌 |
| 2012 | and viruses eat us. | 病毒会吞噬我们 |
| 2013 | Fungus eats us. | 方古斯吃我们. |
| 2014 | So these microscopic predators are our natural predators. | 因此,这些微型掠食者是我们的自然掠食者。 |
| 2015 | And so a lot of aging, societal structure, hygiene, religious strictures against pork, | 因此,很多老化,社会结构,卫生, 宗教的严格对猪肉, |
| 2016 | circumcision, all of these things, these are all designed to resist bacteria and viruses. | 割礼,所有这些东西, 都是为了抵抗细菌和病毒。 |
| 2017 | So if you can teach children this philosophy at an early age, you shortcut all the debates. | 所以,如果你可以教孩子们这个哲学 幼年,你快捷所有的辩论。 |
| 2018 | How effective have you been at teaching that philosophy to children? | 你教孩子这个哲学有多有效? |
| 2019 | That one I think I've been pretty effective. | 我觉得我一直很有效 |
| 2020 | I've drilled that one at home. | 我在家里钻过那个 |
| 2021 | The one I haven't | 那个我没有 |
| 2022 | quite gotten around to yet is evolution. | 进化已经相当成熟了 |
| 2023 | I'm starting to do little bits of that, | 我开始做一点点, |
| 2024 | like we came from monkeys. | 就像我们来自猴子。 |
| 2025 | What does that mean? | 这是什么意思? |
| 2026 | I already got them thinking about some of the | 我已经让他们想到一些 |
| 2027 | deeper questions. | 更深层的问题。 |
| 2028 | I did ask my young son, can nothing exist? | 我问过我小儿子 什么都没有吗? |
| 2029 | I thought it was a fun question. | 我认为这是一个有趣的问题。 |
| 2030 | So I had to throw a fun question. | 所以我不得不提出一个有趣的问题。 |
| 2031 | How old is he now? | 他现在多大了? |
| 2032 | Like four? | 像四个? |
| 2033 | Three? | 三个? |
| 2034 | No, no, he's eight. | 不,不,他八岁。 |
| 2035 | 八岁六old. | |
| 2036 | So I asked them both, | 所以我问他们两个, |
| 2037 | can nothing exist? | 什么也没有吗? |
| 2038 | And they had pretty good answers. | 他们有很好的答案。 |
| 2039 | Another one we played with the other | 另一个我们一起玩的 |
| 2040 | day was like, what is the matrix? | 一天就像, 什么是矩阵? |
| 2041 | What is this? | 这是什么? |
| 2042 | What is all this? | 这是什么? |
| 2043 | And it's entertaining. | 则有娱乐. |
| 2044 | It's | 这是 |
| 2045 | just fun to talk about, right? | 聊起来很有趣,对吧? |
| 2046 | To talk about these questions with your kids. | 跟你的孩子谈谈这些问题 |
| 2047 | I'm not saying | 我不是说 |
| 2048 | that one is a good way of child raising. | 这是抚养孩子的好方法 |
| 2049 | It's not leading to any deeper learning other than maybe | 它不会导致任何更深入的学习 除了也许 |
| 2050 | just have them start or continue to question the basic structure of reality and not move past it | 让他们开始或继续质疑现实的基本结构 而不是越过它 |
| 2051 | so quickly. | 这么快。 |
| 2052 | Also to take joy. | 亦取欢喜. |
| 2053 | What's the meta lesson that's being taught there? | 在那里学到的元课是什么? |
| 2054 | Dad spends time | 爸爸花时间 |
| 2055 | asking questions to which there are not necessarily an answer because there is something | 问问题,因为有问题 |
| 2056 | enjoyable in the process of learning and trying to decipher what's happening. | 在学习过程中享受 并试图破解 发生了什么。 |
| 2057 | Possibly. | 也许吧 |
| 2058 | Also, dad tries not too hard to teach people things. | 还有,爸爸不会太难教别人的东西。 |
| 2059 | I don't want to be didactic. | 我不想被训练。 |
| 2060 | He helps them to arrive at it. | 他帮助他们到达那里。 |
| 2061 | Yeah, correct. | 没错 |
| 2062 | Dad is here to help you solve problems when you have problems and you | 爸爸在这里帮助你解决问题 当你有问题和你 |
| 2063 | constantly have problems. | 总是有问题 |
| 2064 | So if you come to dad, dad can help explain to you how he would solve | 所以,如果你来爸爸,爸爸可以帮助 解释给你如何解决 |
| 2065 | the problem. | 问题。 |
| 2066 | But most of the time they don't want that. | 但大多数时候他们不希望这样. |
| 2067 | Most of the time they just want me to solve | 大多数时候他们只是想让我解决 |
| 2068 | the problem. | 问题。 |
| 2069 | So sometimes I have to play dumb. | 所以有时候我得装傻 |
| 2070 | It's like, why is my Wi-Fi not working on my | 就像,为什么我的Wi -Fi不工作 |
| 2071 | computer? | 电脑? |
| 2072 | I'm like, I don't know. | 我很喜欢,我不知道。 |
| 2073 | Did you click on that thing? | 你点击了那个东西吗? |
| 2074 | You've got like a rebellious sovereign child, sovereign as they may be, but sometimes they | 你有像一个叛逆的君主的孩子, 他们可能是君主,但有时他们 |
| 2075 | still need the dad to step in. | 还是需要爸爸介入。 |
| 2076 | So in addition to feeling loved and having high self-esteem, | 所以除了感受到爱和高度的自尊之外 |
| 2077 | I think the most important trait that would be nice to not rob them of is agency. | 我认为最重要的特征是 代理,这将是很好的 不抢他们。 |
| 2078 | I want them | 我要他们 |
| 2079 | to preserve their agency. | 保存他们的代理。 |
| 2080 | They're born naturally agentic and willful, but a lot of child raising | 他们天生就是有本事的 有本事的,但很多孩子要抚养 |
| 2081 | can beat that out of them by essentially domesticating them. | 基本上通过驯化它们就能击败它们。 |
| 2082 | And I would rather have | 我宁愿拥有 |
| 2083 | wild animals and wolves than have well-trained dogs because I'm not going to be around to take | 野生动物和狼比有训练有素的狗, 因为我不会在身边带 |
| 2084 | care of them. | 照顾他们。 |
| 2085 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2086 | So they're going to have to be able to look after themselves. | 故须自护. |
| 2087 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 2088 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2089 | A friend of mine, Parsa on AirChat, he had a great saying. | 我的一个朋友,Parsa在AirChat, 他有一个伟大的说法。 |
| 2090 | He said he wants his children to be quick | 他说要他的孩子快点 |
| 2091 | to learn and hard to kill. | 学而难杀. |
| 2092 | That was pretty good. | 这是相当好的。 |
| 2093 | Yeah, that was cool. | 是啊,这很酷。 |
| 2094 | I remember you saying, | 我记得你说过 |
| 2095 | just thinking about sort of future and culture and stuff like that, I remember you saying that | 想想未来和文化之类的事 我记得你说过 |
| 2096 | the left had won the culture war and now they're just driving around shooting the survivors. | 左翼赢得了文化大战 现在他们正开车到处射杀幸存者 |
| 2097 | Right. | 对 |
| 2098 | After the last six months of change that we've seen and sort of where we're at at the | 经过了六个月的变革,我们已经看到 和排序我们的位置 |
| 2099 | moment, what do you think the future of the culture war looks like? | 你觉得文化战争的未来是什么样子? |
| 2100 | It's not over yet. | 还没完呢 |
| 2101 | They definitely won earlier rounds. | 他们肯定赢得了早期的比赛。 |
| 2102 | They took over institutions. | 他们接管了机构。 |
| 2103 | I think now it's much more | 我觉得现在要多得多了 |
| 2104 | a fair fight where you have people like Elon kind of supporting. | 公平斗争,你得到的人 像伊隆那种支持。 |
| 2105 | So there's these different | 所以,这些不同 |
| 2106 | forces through history. | 力量贯穿历史 |
| 2107 | Historians will argue about this, but there's a theory of the great | 历史学家会为此争论 但有一个关于伟大的理论 |
| 2108 | man of history thing where it's like, oh, you have the Einsteins, you have the Teslas, you have the | 你拥有爱因斯坦家族 你拥有特斯拉斯 |
| 2109 | Genghis Khans and the Caesars. | 成吉思汗与凯撒. |
| 2110 | They determine the flow of history. | 它们决定了历史的流转. |
| 2111 | And then there's the other | 还有另一个 |
| 2112 | point of view that, no, there are these massive forces at play, demographics and geography | 认为,不,有 这些巨大的力量 在游戏,人口和地理 |
| 2113 | and so on. | 诸如来. |
| 2114 | And then the particular great man doesn't matter. | 然后,特定的伟人不重要。 |
| 2115 | They just come and go, | 他们只是来去去, |
| 2116 | Napoleon doesn't matter. | 拿破仑不重要 |
| 2117 | They would have been somebody else. | 他们会是别人。 |
| 2118 | The specific names are not | 具体姓名没有 |
| 2119 | important. | 这很重要 |
| 2120 | And because of kind of the leftist turn that our institutions took in the last few | 也因为我们的机构 采取左倾的转弯方式 |
| 2121 | decades, they now only subscribe to the great forces theory of history, not the great man | 数十年,他们现在只赞同历史的伟大力量理论,而不是伟大的人 |
| 2122 | theory of history. | 历史理论. |
| 2123 | But I think now we're seeing the two play out where you're seeing Trump and | 但我想我们现在看到的是 你和特朗普的两场比赛 |
| 2124 | Elon and other individuals rising up and saying, no, we resist. | 伊隆和其他人站起来说,不,我们反抗。 |
| 2125 | Yeah, that's interesting. | 是啊,这很有趣。 |
| 2126 | And | 还有 |
| 2127 | I think that unfortunately, and so the battle between these collectivists and great forces | 我觉得很不幸,所以这些集体主义者和伟大力量的战斗 |
| 2128 | versus individuals, it's as old as humanity itself. | 相对于个人,它和人类本身一样古老. |
| 2129 | And it is fundamental to the species. | 它对于这个物种来说至关重要。 |
| 2130 | We are not a completely individualistic species. | 我们不是一个完全个性化的物种。 |
| 2131 | No man is an island. | 没有人是岛屿。 |
| 2132 | A single person can't do | 一个人不能做 |
| 2133 | anything by themselves. | 任何东西,自己。 |
| 2134 | But we're also not a Borg. | 但我们也不是博格人 |
| 2135 | We're not a beehive. | 我们不是蜂窝 |
| 2136 | We're not an ant colony. | 我们不是蚁群 |
| 2137 | We're not all just drones marching along. | 我们不只是无人机在前进 |
| 2138 | So which is it? | 哪个? |
| 2139 | We're somewhere in the middle and | 我们在中间的某个地方 |
| 2140 | human race is always kind of bouncing between the two. | 人类总是在二者之间发光 |
| 2141 | We like strong leaders. | 我们喜欢坚强的领导人。 |
| 2142 | We like to be led. | 我们喜欢被领导。 |
| 2143 | We like to coordinate our forces and mass and do things. | 我们喜欢协调我们的力量和物质,做事情。 |
| 2144 | But at the same time, we're also all | 但与此同时,我们也 |
| 2145 | individuals and willing to break away and willing to do our own thing. | 个人和愿意离开 并愿意做我们自己的事情。 |
| 2146 | And everyone's always fighting | 每个人都在吵架 |
| 2147 | to be a leader and there's always status games going on. | 总是有状态游戏在进行 |
| 2148 | So there's a pendulum that's always | 所以总有一个笔鼓 |
| 2149 | swinging back and forth. | 前后摇摆. |
| 2150 | And in modern economics, the way that manifests is between sort of Marxism | 在现代经济学中,表现方式是 马克思主义 |
| 2151 | and capitalism, right? | 和资本主义,对不对? |
| 2152 | Marxism is like from each according to his ability to each according to his | 马克思主义就像从每个人 根据他的能力 |
| 2153 | needs. | 需要帮助。 |
| 2154 | We're all equal. | 众生平等. |
| 2155 | There's a millennial project. | 有千年项目. |
| 2156 | We're all going to be equal in the end. | 皆得圆满平等. |
| 2157 | And don't try and stand out, but do what's good for everybody. | 不要试图突出, 但做对每个人都好。 |
| 2158 | And there's a religious aspect to | 还有宗教方面 |
| 2159 | it. | 这个 |
| 2160 | And then the capitalist individualist is like a libertarian. | 然后资本主义个人主义者就像一个自由主义者. |
| 2161 | Every man for himself, you just each | 每个人为自己,你只是每个人 |
| 2162 | do what you want and it'll work out for the greater good. | 随心所欲,为大局而努力 |
| 2163 | That's Adam Smith. | 这是亚当·斯密。 |
| 2164 | The invisible hand of the | 看不见的手 |
| 2165 | market will feed you. | 市场会喂你。 |
| 2166 | The baker should bake and the butcher should butcher and the candlestick | 面包师应该烤 屠夫应该屠宰 和烛台 |
| 2167 | maker should make candlesticks and it'll all work out. | 制造者应该做蜡烛棒 然后一切都会好的 |
| 2168 | Each person does their best and they trade. | 每个人都尽力而为 并进行交易。 |
| 2169 | And so which is it? | 那么是哪个? |
| 2170 | Which theory is correct? | 哪个理论是正确的? |
| 2171 | And I think there's always going to be a battle | 我觉得总有一场战斗 |
| 2172 | between the two. | 二者之间. |
| 2173 | And I think the interesting thing is what's going on. | 我认为有趣的是 发生了什么。 |
| 2174 | There's a modern flavor to it, | 有一种现代的味道 |
| 2175 | which changes it. | 它改变了它。 |
| 2176 | The modern flavor is that the individual is getting more powerful because | 现代的口味是个人越来越强大 因为 |
| 2177 | they're becoming more leverage. | 他们越来越有影响力了 |
| 2178 | So someone like an Elon Musk can have the leverage of tens of | 所以像伊隆·穆斯克这样的人 可以拥有数十人的影响力 |
| 2179 | brilliant engineers and producers working for him. | 优秀的工程师和制作人为他工作。 |
| 2180 | He can have factories of robots manufacturing | 他可以拥有制造机器人的工厂 |
| 2181 | things. | 东西。 |
| 2182 | He can have hundreds of billions of dollars of capital behind him and he can project | 他身后有上千亿的资本 可以投影 |
| 2183 | himself through media to hundreds of millions of people. | 自己通过媒体 向亿万人民。 |
| 2184 | That is more power than any individual | 这比任何个人都强 |
| 2185 | could have had historically. | 本来可以有历史。 |
| 2186 | So the great men of history are becoming greater. | 因此,历史上的伟人正在变得更加强大. |
| 2187 | That said, | 这么说 |
| 2188 | that same leverage is increasing the gap between the haves and have nots. | 同样的杠杆正在扩大贫富差距。 |
| 2189 | So in the wealth game, | 所以在财富游戏中, |
| 2190 | more people are winning overall and the average is going up. | 越来越多的人获得了总的胜利,平均率正在上升。 |
| 2191 | But in the status game, they're | 但在状态游戏中,他们 |
| 2192 | essentially more losers. | 基本上更多的失败者。 |
| 2193 | There are more invisible men and women who are getting nothing out of life | 更多的隐形男女 从生活中一无所获 |
| 2194 | and have no leverage, relatively speaking. | 而且没有影响力,相对而言。 |
| 2195 | Objectively speaking, they might be better off. | 客观地说,他们可能更好。 |
| 2196 | They still have phones and they still have TVs. | 他们还有电话,还有电视 |
| 2197 | They're not absolute creatures. | 他们不是绝对的生物。 |
| 2198 | They're relative | 它们是相对的 |
| 2199 | creatures. | 众生. |
| 2200 | Correct. | 没错 |
| 2201 | And so to the extent that we're relatives creatures, there are more losers | 至于我们是亲戚的生物 更多的是失败者 |
| 2202 | than winners. | 胜过胜者 |
| 2203 | And in a democracy, those people will outnumber the winners and they will vote the | 在一个民主国家中,这些人将胜过胜者,他们将投票给 |
| 2204 | winners down. | 赢家倒下。 |
| 2205 | And so that's the battle that kind of goes on. | 因此,这就是这种战斗的继续。 |
| 2206 | And the democracy has gotten very | 民主已经变得非常 |
| 2207 | broad. | 广义的。 |
| 2208 | And so one of my other quips is that it's not the right to vote that gives you power. | 因此,我的另一个疑问是, 这不是投票权 给了你权力。 |
| 2209 | It's power that gives you the right to vote. | 权力给你投票权. |
| 2210 | So we've confused the two. | 所以我们把两者混淆了 |
| 2211 | So what happened was, | 事情是这样的 |
| 2212 | voting started as a way for people who had power to divide up the power and not fight amongst | 投票一开始是为了让有权力的人 分权,而不是打架 |
| 2213 | themselves. | 他们自己。 |
| 2214 | The winners of the revolution, the winners of the war, the people in the House of | 革命的胜利者 战争的胜利者 |
| 2215 | Lords and the House of Commons, they divide up power amongst themselves. | 领主和下议院,他们彼此之间分权. |
| 2216 | They say, Hey, we have | 他们说,嘿,我们有 |
| 2217 | the money. | 钱 |
| 2218 | We have the power. | 我们有力量 |
| 2219 | We are the knights. | 我们是骑士 |
| 2220 | We have the swords. | 我们有剑。 |
| 2221 | We have the warriors. | 我们有勇士 |
| 2222 | We could | 我们可以 |
| 2223 | kill everybody, but we don't want to just fight each other all day long. | 杀光所有人 但我们不想整天吵架 |
| 2224 | We don't want to be Game | 我们不想成为游戏 |
| 2225 | of Thrones forever. | 将永居宝座中。 |
| 2226 | So we're going to divide up power by voting amongst ourselves. | 所以我们要通过投票来划分权力。 |
| 2227 | But then as | 但作为 |
| 2228 | society goes on and becomes more and more peaceful, that franchise for voting gets spread. | 社会继续发展,越来越和平,选举权得到普及。 |
| 2229 | It gets | 它会得到 |
| 2230 | spread to people who don't have land, who don't have power, who may not be able to inflict physical | 传播到那些没有土地,没有权力,可能无法施加身体伤害的人身上 |
| 2231 | violence. | 暴力行为。 |
| 2232 | And then eventually you get to the point where everybody's voting. | 然后,你最终得到 达到每个人的投票点。 |
| 2233 | Everybody's voting and | 每个人都投票 |
| 2234 | then eventually people start voting to oppress each other. | 最终人们开始投票压迫对方。 |
| 2235 | The 51% in any domain vote to | 51%在任何域的选票中 |
| 2236 | suppress the 49%. | 压制49%。 |
| 2237 | It's a tyranny of the majority. | 这是多数人的暴政. |
| 2238 | But not all of them are willing to back that up | 但并不是所有人都愿意支持这个 |
| 2239 | with physical power. | 以体力为体. |
| 2240 | And so you can end up in a situation where people who don't have physical | 这样你就能陷入一个没有身体的人 |
| 2241 | power are using the institutions of the state to control the people who do have physical power. | 权力正在利用国家机构来控制那些拥有实际权力的人。 |
| 2242 | As a simple example, take the United States, the people who don't have guns voting to disarm the | 举个简单的例子,以美国为例,没有枪的人投票解除 |
| 2243 | people that do have guns. | 有枪的人 |
| 2244 | Well, if the people who do have guns get coordinated and care enough, | 好吧,如果那些有枪的人 得到足够的协调和关心, |
| 2245 | you can't do that. | 你不能这样做。 |
| 2246 | So I think eventually these societal structures are unstable. | 所以我认为这些社会结构最终是不稳定的。 |
| 2247 | They break down | 他们分道扬镳 |
| 2248 | and they break down because eventually the people who have the power and say, no, wait a minute, | 他们分崩离析,因为有权力的人说:不,等等, |
| 2249 | you don't get to vote. | 你没有投票权。 |
| 2250 | You only got to vote because you had power and now you don't have power and | 你只有投票 因为你有权力 现在没有权力 |
| 2251 | you're somehow trying to vote. | 你想投票吗? |
| 2252 | All of nature, all of society, all of capitalism, all of human | 大自然、社会、资本主义、人类 |
| 2253 | endeavors are underpinned by physical violence. | 身体暴力是努力的基础。 |
| 2254 | And that is very hard truth to swallow and hard | 这是很难 吞下和硬 |
| 2255 | to get away from. | 远离。 |
| 2256 | Nature is red in tooth and claw. | 自然在牙齿和爪子上是红色的. |
| 2257 | If you don't fight, you don't survive, | 如果你不战斗,你就无法生存 |
| 2258 | you don't live, you die. | 你没有生命,你死了。 |
| 2259 | And that's true of everything alive today. | 而今一切众生亦如是. |
| 2260 | And humans are no different. | 而人无异. |
| 2261 | So giving up physical power and then thinking you can exercise political power fails, which is why | 所以放弃身体权力,然后认为你可以行使政治权力失败,这就是为什么 |
| 2262 | every communist revolution, which is all about equality and kumbaya and brother and sisters end | 每一次共产主义革命, 都是为了平等, |
| 2263 | up being run by a bunch of thugs. | 被一群暴徒管理着 |
| 2264 | Because if you don't have a way to divide up the wealth based on | 因为如果你没有办法 分享财富的基础 |
| 2265 | merit, then it's always going to be based on power and influence. | 功绩,那么它总是会基于权力和影响力. |
| 2266 | The thugs with the guns always win | 拿着枪的暴徒总能赢 |
| 2267 | the end. | 结束。 |
| 2268 | So the question is just, can you keep the thugs with the guns paid and happy and successful | 所以问题只是,你能不能让那些拿枪的暴徒 得到报酬,快乐和成功? |
| 2269 | society where you're allocating based on merit? | 你根据功绩分配资金的社会? |
| 2270 | Because if you can't, then you're going to do it | 因为如果你做不到,那你就要这么做 |
| 2271 | based on power. | 基于力量。 |
| 2272 | So I do think that this battle is not over, but that's because it never stopped. | 所以我确实认为这场战役还没有结束, 这是因为它从未停止。 |
| 2273 | It's always been there from day one. | 从第一天开始就一直存在 |
| 2274 | It will continue. | 它将继续下去。 |
| 2275 | Is it a battle to not care about the | 这是一场不关心 |
| 2276 | news in an age of news saturation? | 新闻饱和时代的新闻? |
| 2277 | All of this stuff headlines 24 hours a day streamed directly | 所有这一切 头条一天24小时 直接流淌 |
| 2278 | into your consciousness through a device in your pocket. | 通过口袋里的装置进入你的意识 |
| 2279 | You know, a lot of what we've spoken | 你知道,很多我们说过的话 |
| 2280 | about today is freedom, freedom from having to think about things or care about things that you | 自由,自由 不必思考 或关心的东西你 |
| 2281 | do not have control over or that you shouldn't or that you don't want to. | 控制不了 不该控制 也不想控制 |
| 2282 | And yet people are just | 但人们只是 |
| 2283 | like submerged up to the bottom of their nostrils, basically drowning in worry. | 就像被淹没到鼻孔底部 基本上沉溺在忧患之中 |
| 2284 | So how, yeah, is it, | 所以,是的,这是 |
| 2285 | is it a battle to sort of stay out of the news when you're saturated in it? | 在你饱满的时候,这是一场 远离新闻的战斗吗? |
| 2286 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2287 | I mean, as you're saying, the human brain is not evolved to handle all the world's | 我的意思是,正如你说的, 人类大脑不是进化 来处理所有的世界 |
| 2288 | emergencies breaking in real time and you can't care about everything and you'll go insane if you | 紧急事件实时发生,你不能关心一切 如果你疯了 |
| 2289 | cry. | 哭个不停 |
| 2290 | Does it mean you shouldn't care at all? | 这是否意味着你根本不该在乎? |
| 2291 | There's no should. | 不应有. |
| 2292 | I mean, if you want to care, | 我的意思是,如果你想关心, |
| 2293 | go ahead and care. | 继续注意 |
| 2294 | I would just say that you're probably better off only caring about things that | 我只是说,你也许更好 仅仅关心的事情 |
| 2295 | are local or things that you can affect. | 是本地的或者可以影响的东西。 |
| 2296 | So if you really care about something that's in the news, | 如果你真的在乎新闻里的东西 |
| 2297 | then by all means care about it, but make a difference, go do something about it and make | 然后用所有手段去关心它, 但做一个改变, 去做一些事情 |
| 2298 | sure that it's your overwhelming desire and you don't have five other desires at the same time. | 确定这是你压倒性的欲望 而你没有另外五个欲望 同时。 |
| 2299 | Also just realize the consequences of it. | 也意识到它的后果。 |
| 2300 | You're going to be unhappy until that thing gets fixed | 你会不高兴的 直到那东西修好 |
| 2301 | and that thing will often be out of your control. | 那东西往往会失控 |
| 2302 | Desire is a contract to be unhappy until you get what you want. | 欲望是一种不开心的契约 直到你得到你想要的 |
| 2303 | But for the most part, | 但大多数时候, |
| 2304 | that's something that is in your life. | 那是你生命中的东西 |
| 2305 | It's like till I lose the weight until I get the job. | 这就像直到我减肥 直到我得到工作。 |
| 2306 | It can be outside too. | 也可以在外边 |
| 2307 | If it's until the carbon dioxide parts per million are below this particular number, | 如果直到百万分之一的二氧化碳 低于这个具体数字, |
| 2308 | it's like, that's a- | 这就像,这是一个... |
| 2309 | That's a tough one for all the people that trumped arrangement syndrome, right? | 这对克服安排综合症的所有人来说都是很难的 对吧? |
| 2310 | He's living rent free in their heads and driving them insane. | 他住在他们头上免费的租金 让他们发疯 |
| 2311 | And I get it. | и笵 |
| 2312 | I mean, | 我是说... |
| 2313 | there are politicians who have definitely driven me insane as well, | 有些政客也把我逼疯了 |
| 2314 | but it comes at a very high cost and it's something that is out of your control that | 但代价很高 而且这是你无法控制的 |
| 2315 | you cannot really influence. | 你无法真正影响。 |
| 2316 | So it's probably good to at least be conscious of it. | 所以至少应该意识到这一点。 |
| 2317 | You mentioned historians before. | 你以前提到过历史学家 |
| 2318 | One of my friends has a question, his equivalent of | 我的一位朋友有一个问题 他相当于 |
| 2319 | Peter Thiel's question of what is it that you believe that most people would disagree with. | 彼得,别这样 Thiel的疑问是什么,你相信大多数人会不同意。 |
| 2320 | His is what do you think is currently ignored by the media, but will be studied by historians? | 他就是目前媒体所忽略的,但历史学家会研究什么? |
| 2321 | Hmm. | 是吗? |
| 2322 | You're asking me that question right now. | 你现在在问我这个问题 |
| 2323 | What do I think is ignored by the media, but will be studied by historians? | 我认为媒体忽视了什么,但历史学家会研究什么? |
| 2324 | Well, I mean, the media is only focused on very timely things, right? | 嗯,我的意思是,媒体只专注于 非常及时的事情,对不对? |
| 2325 | So it depends if | 所以这要看 |
| 2326 | you want to talk about timely or timeless, right? | 你想谈论及时或无时无刻,对不对? |
| 2327 | But as a simple example, if I just look at things | 但作为一个简单的例子, 如果我只是看事情 |
| 2328 | that maybe the next five or 10 years that are going to make a massive difference that people | 也许未来五、十年 将会给人们带来巨大的变化 |
| 2329 | are not focused enough on. | 重点不够突出。 |
| 2330 | And I think within two years, this will be obvious. | 我认为在两年内,这是显而易见的。 |
| 2331 | So like I'm | 就像我一样 |
| 2332 | making a prediction and predictions are tough. | 做预测和预测很困难 |
| 2333 | You're going to have to eat it in a few years. | 数年后得食. |
| 2334 | Yeah, I'm going to have to eat this in a few years. | 是啊,我要吃这个 在几年内。 |
| 2335 | So I'm probably wrong, but two things that I pay | 所以我可能错了 但我付了两件事 |
| 2336 | attention to that I don't think a lot of people do pay attention to. | 注意,我不认为 很多人会注意。 |
| 2337 | Well, there's a couple. | 嗯,有一对夫妇。 |
| 2338 | One is | 一个是 |
| 2339 | I think just how bad modern medicine is. | 我认为现代医学有多糟糕 |
| 2340 | I think people just put a lot more faith in modern medicine | 我觉得人们只是更相信现代医学 |
| 2341 | than is warranted. | 无法证明 |
| 2342 | Like our best ideas for a lot of things are surgery, just cutting things out, | 就像我们对很多事情的最佳想法是手术, 只是切除事情, |
| 2343 | right? | 对吧? |
| 2344 | Treating things that are extraneous, like, oh, you don't really need a gallbladder. | 治疗一些不相干的东西, 比如,哦,你不需要一个胆囊。 |
| 2345 | You don't really need an appendix or you don't really need tonsils. | 你不需要附录 也不需要扁桃体 |
| 2346 | Oh, that's false. | 哦,这是虚假的。 |
| 2347 | Suplex requirement. | 复杂要求。 |
| 2348 | Human body is very, very efficient. | 人体非常非常高效. |
| 2349 | All those things are needed. | 所有这些都是需要的。 |
| 2350 | So I think the state of | 所以,我认为状态 |
| 2351 | modern medicine is still pretty bad. | 现代医学仍然相当糟糕。 |
| 2352 | We don't have many good explanatory theories in biology. | 在生物学中我们并没有很多很好的解释理论. |
| 2353 | We have germ theory disease. | 我们有细菌理论疾病。 |
| 2354 | We have evolution. | 我们有进化。 |
| 2355 | We have cell theory. | 我们有细胞理论 |
| 2356 | We have DNA genetics, | 我们有DNA遗传学 |
| 2357 | morphogenesis, embryogenesis, and not much else. | 发作、胚胎发作,其他的也不多 |
| 2358 | You know, there's not much else. | 你知道,没有什么其他的。 |
| 2359 | Everything else | 其他的都一样 |
| 2360 | is rules of thumb, memorization. | 是拇指规则,记忆。 |
| 2361 | A affects B because it affects C affects D, but we don't | A影响B,因为它影响C 影响D,但我们不 |
| 2362 | understand the underlying explanation. | 理解背后的解释。 |
| 2363 | It's all just words, point to words, point to words. | 皆以字为正,指字为正. |
| 2364 | So biology is still in a very sorry state. | 所以生物学仍然处于非常糟糕的状态. |
| 2365 | And because we are not allowed to take risk | 因为我们不能冒险 |
| 2366 | that might kill people, we just don't experiment enough in biology. | 这可能会害死人, 我们只是不够实验 在生物学。 |
| 2367 | So a lot of treatments are | 所以很多治疗是 |
| 2368 | just outright banned by large regulatory bodies. | 只是被大管理机构彻底禁止 |
| 2369 | So we just don't have the innovation. | 所以我们只是没有创新。 |
| 2370 | So I think we're still in the stone age when it comes to biology, and we've got a long ways to go. | 因此,我认为在生物学方面,我们仍然处在石器时代,还有很长的路要走. |
| 2371 | And I think people will look back aghast at this. | 我想人们会回想起这个可怕的事。 |
| 2372 | And I think this is Brian Johnson's point. | 我认为这是布莱恩·约翰逊的观点。 |
| 2373 | He's | 琌 |
| 2374 | like, you know, let's be more extreme. | 像,你知道,让我们更极端。 |
| 2375 | Let's try to live forever. | 试求永生. |
| 2376 | It must be more experimental. | 它必须更实验。 |
| 2377 | And I'll start at the end of one and start experimenting on myself. | 我会从一个结尾开始 开始自我试验。 |
| 2378 | But even there, | 但即使在那里, |
| 2379 | I disagree with Brian on many things, like, you know, taking huge amounts of supplements. | 我不同意布莱恩在很多方面的意见 比如说,服用大量补充剂 |
| 2380 | I think we just don't know it's supplements outside of the international context, like just eat | 我觉得我们只是不知道 这是补充 国际背景之外, 像只是吃 |
| 2381 | right. | 对 |
| 2382 | But it's fine. | 但无碍. |
| 2383 | And I wouldn't be vegan either. | 我也不会吃素的 |
| 2384 | But you know, it's, I really appreciate | 但你知道,这是,我真的很感激 |
| 2385 | that he's experimenting, he's good natured about me, shares everything. | 他对我很好 分享一切 |
| 2386 | So we need more people | 所以我们需要更多的人 |
| 2387 | like that. | 像这样 |
| 2388 | So I think the state of biology, people will look back and say, wow, that was | 所以,我认为生物状态 人们会回头看,说,哇,那是 |
| 2389 | in the dark ages. | 在黑暗时代。 |
| 2390 | I think another, another thing that we'll look back on is I think we, | 我觉得还有一件事,我们会回顾的,是我想我们, |
| 2391 | we still continue to underestimate how important drones are going to be in warfare. | 我们仍然低估无人机在战争中的重要性 |
| 2392 | The future of all warfare is drones. | 所有战争的未来都是无人机 |
| 2393 | There will be nothing else in the battlefield. | 战场上没有别的了 |
| 2394 | Because I think of the end state of drones as autonomous bullets, not even guided autonomous, | 因为我认为无人机的末端状态 是自主子弹,甚至没有引导自主, |
| 2395 | like they're self-directed. | 就像他们自导自演一样 |
| 2396 | And so if that's the future we're headed towards, and that's a | 所以如果这就是我们走向的未来 那就是 |
| 2397 | Why would you have an armed force? | 你为什么有武装部队? |
| 2398 | There's gonna be no, there's gonna be no aircraft carriers, there's gonna be no tanks, | 没有,没有航空母舰,没有坦克 |
| 2399 | there's gonna be no infantrymen. | 没有步兵 |
| 2400 | There's just going to be autonomous bullets by autonomous | 只有自主的子弹 |
| 2401 | bullets against your autonomous bullets, whichever ones win the other side just surrenders because | 子弹对你的自主子弹, 无论谁赢了对方只是投降。 |
| 2402 | over. | 结束了。 |
| 2403 | I think that's the second piece of it. | 我想这是它的第二块。 |
| 2404 | I think a third piece that is going to be kind | 我觉得第三件会是善良的 |
| 2405 | of unexpected is the GLP ones, which I know you and I have privately discussed before. | 出乎意料的是GLP的, 我知道你和我之前私下讨论过。 |
| 2406 | I think | 我觉得 |
| 2407 | these are the most breakthrough drugs since antibiotics. | 这是抗生素之后最突破的药物 |
| 2408 | They're probably more important | 他们可能更重要 |
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| 2410 | They're sort of miracle drugs. | 这是一种奇迹药物。 |
| 2411 | They seem to, there are downsides, but the downside and | 他们似乎有缺点, 但缺点和 |
| 2412 | side effects are so minor compared to the upsides beyond just weight loss. | 副作用和颠倒相比是如此微小 不只是减重 |
| 2413 | They also seem to be | 他们似乎也是 |
| 2414 | breakers. | 断路器。 |
| 2415 | They seem to lower many kinds of cancer. | 他们似乎降低了许多类型的癌症。 |
| 2416 | They almost metabolically reverse | 它们几乎是代谢反向的 |
| 2417 | aging up to a certain point. | 衰老到某个时候 |
| 2418 | And I think they're going to bend the curve on healthcare costs. | 我认为他们会在医疗费用上 弯曲弯曲。 |
| 2419 | And the big question people are going to be asking over the next five years is why are Americans | 未来五年人们会问的大问题是 为什么美国人是美国人 |
| 2420 | paying thousands of dollars a month for this when people overseas are getting them for free? | 当海外人免费买这些东西时,每月要付几千美元? |
| 2421 | Or I can order them from China for free or whatever. | 或者我可以免费从中国订购 |
| 2422 | And maybe it, like if I were Bernie | 也许,如果我是伯尼 |
| 2423 | Sanders, the platform I would be running on is I would say, okay, we're going to pay, you know, | 桑德斯,我会运行的平台是 我会说,好吧,我们会支付,你知道, |
| 2424 | hundreds of billions of dollars to De Novo and Eli Lilly, and we're just going to make these free. | 几千亿美元给De Novo和Eli Lilly, 我们只是要让这些免费。 |
| 2425 | Or there's hundreds of analogs of these things that work. | 或有百千譬喻此等诸物皆能成就. |
| 2426 | These are not going to be, you know, | 这些不会是,你知道, |
| 2427 | limited to just the few that are being used today. | 仅限于今天使用的少数几个。 |
| 2428 | Just take one of them or two of them and make them | 就拿一个或两个来做 |
| 2429 | free. | 免费。 |
| 2430 | And I think it'll make a big difference. | 我觉得这会有很大的不同 |
| 2431 | And as you and I were discussing earlier, this | 刚才我们讨论的这个 |
| 2432 | does bend a lot of people out of shape who got there the old fashioned way and they want to see | 弯曲很多人的形状 谁得到了那里 老的方式,他们想看到 |
| 2433 | obesity as a moral failing on people's parts. | 肥胖症是人们的道德缺陷 |
| 2434 | And it lowers their status if they are suddenly | 如果他们突然出现 就会降低他们的地位 |
| 2435 | less of a signal. | 少一个信号。 |
| 2436 | Yeah, so they're incented to say, oh, well, you don't know the downsides. | 是啊,所以他们被鼓励说, 哦,嗯,你不知道的缺点。 |
| 2437 | You know, it's irresponsible to suggest it's going to cause cancer, have fun losing bone and | 你知道,这是不负责任的 暗示它会引起癌症, 玩乐失去骨头和 |
| 2438 | muscle mass. | 肌肉质量。 |
| 2439 | But none of that stuff is really true. | 但是这些都不是真的 |
| 2440 | The cancer stuff is actually beneficial on, | 癌症的东西实际上是有益的, |
| 2441 | I know people who are now taking these things for anti-aging reasons. | 我知道有人现在服用这些东西 是为了抗衰老 |
| 2442 | They're already fit, | 他们已经合身了, |
| 2443 | but they just want to age better and have a stronger insulin metabolism. | 但他们只是想提高年龄 并有更强的胰岛素代谢。 |
| 2444 | And there's evidence now these things are, you know, they put off dementia, Alzheimer's, | 现在有证据表明,这些东西,你知道, 他们推迟了痴呆症,阿尔茨海默症, |
| 2445 | colon cancer. | 结肠癌. |
| 2446 | It's insane cardiovascular disease. | 这是疯狂的心血管疾病。 |
| 2447 | Like the list of benefits is insane. | 就像福利清单是疯狂的。 |
| 2448 | There's no free lunch, but this is a class of drugs that prevents you from taking other drugs | 没有免费午餐,但这是一门 禁止你服用其他药物的药物 |
| 2449 | into your body. | 进入你的身体。 |
| 2450 | It prevents you from taking, you know, too much sugar, too many calories in an | 让你无法摄取太多的糖 太多的卡路里 |
| 2451 | era of abundance, prevents you from smoking, prevents you from even there's an organization | 防止你抽烟 阻止你甚至有组织 |
| 2452 | called Casper that is not doing a study on heroin addictions. | 他叫卡斯珀 他没有研究海洛因成瘾 |
| 2453 | And they're showing that this can lower | 他们显示这可以降低 |
| 2454 | opioid overdoses and heroin addiction. | 类阿片过量和海洛因成瘾。 |
| 2455 | So there's a lot of overwhelming medical evidence coming out. | 由此得出大量压倒性医学证据. |
| 2456 | And I think, I don't know the exact number, but I think something like 10% of the population might | 我觉得,我不知道确切的数字, 但我认为,像 10%的人口可能 |
| 2457 | not have tried these things. | 没有尝试过这些事情。 |
| 2458 | Yeah, I think that's the number that I'd say as well. | 是的,我想这也是我想说的号码。 |
| 2459 | Yeah, it's massive. | 是啊,这是巨大的。 |
| 2460 | I think it's about 50% of the population say that they would like to try it. | 我想大概有50%的人口说 他们想试试 |
| 2461 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 2462 | So I think the | 所以我认为 |
| 2463 | body positivity movement is dead. | 身体阳性运动是死。 |
| 2464 | And we always kind of knew it was a scam. | 我们一直知道这是骗局 |
| 2465 | I mean, it's dying | 我是说,它快死了 |
| 2466 | very, very quickly. | 非常,非常迅速。 |
| 2467 | Equipped like you can never be too rich, too thin or too clean. | 就像你永远不会太有钱,太瘦或者太干净 |
| 2468 | Right. | 对 |
| 2469 | And | 还有 |
| 2470 | immediately, like a whole bunch of people went nonlinear by mention, like, what do you mean, | 立即,像一堆人去 非线性通过提及, 像,你是什么意思, |
| 2471 | too thin? | 太瘦了吗? |
| 2472 | And what about the hygiene hypothesis? | 卫生假说呢? |
| 2473 | And you know, obviously, there's always exceptions, | 你知道,很明显, 总是有例外, |
| 2474 | but people want to be thin and fit. | 但人们希望自己瘦小体贴 |
| 2475 | And people want to be clean back to the pathogen discussion | 人们想重新回到病原体的讨论中 |
| 2476 | that we had. | 我们有过的 |
| 2477 | So I think overall that there's going to be huge demand for these things. | 因此,我认为总的来说,这些东西会有巨大的需求。 |
| 2478 | And our modern medical system is not built to supply these well. | 我们的现代医疗系统不是用来供应这些井的。 |
| 2479 | I'm not, I'm not, I don't hold | 我没有,我没有,我没有抱 |
| 2480 | it against the pharmas. | 它与药物。 |
| 2481 | I think the pharmas did their job by creating the thing. | 我认为药剂师通过创造它完成了他们的工作。 |
| 2482 | But I think next, | 但我想接下来 |
| 2483 | we need to step up and figure out how to make it broadly and cheaply available as opposed to just | 我们需要更上一层楼 找出如何使它 广泛和廉价的提供 而不是仅仅 |
| 2484 | milk it for only for people on obesity who can get Medicare to sign off for it or people paying | 只能给肥胖症患者牛奶,他们可以让医疗保险公司签收,或者买单 |
| 2485 | out of pocket at very, very high prices. | 以非常,非常高的价格从口袋里出来 |
| 2486 | The benefits of societal distribution of the safer | 社会分配的好处 |
| 2487 | GLP ones is so large that whichever politicians are tackles that is going to be richly rewarded. | GLP大到无论哪位政治家都会得到丰厚的奖励。 |
| 2488 | Well, obesity is the number one source of malnutrition worldwide. | 肥胖是全世界营养不良的头一个原因 |
| 2489 | There's twice as many | 有两倍 |
| 2490 | people that are obese than a starving. | 肥胖的人 比饥饿的人。 |
| 2491 | So about half a billion people are starving. | 因此,大约5亿人正在挨饿。 |
| 2492 | And so many problems are downstream of that. | 下游有很多问题 |
| 2493 | Like, you know, look at how much of the federal | 比如,你知道,看看有多少联邦 |
| 2494 | budget goes into dialysis because of kidney failure and why is that? | 由于肾衰竭,预算进入透析,为什么? |
| 2495 | It's because of diabetes. | 由是糖尿病缘故. |
| 2496 | Right. | 对 |
| 2497 | So so many of the problems that we have in modern society are downstream of obesity. | 所以在现代社会中,我们所存在的很多问题 都集中在肥胖的下游。 |
| 2498 | And you | 还有你 |
| 2499 | know this, like fitness is so important. | 你知道这一点, 像健身是如此重要。 |
| 2500 | And yes, there's in some people, these things cause muscle | 是的,有些人,这些东西引起肌肉 |
| 2501 | and bone loss, but not in the people who are eating high protein and working out hard. | 和骨折, 但不是在那些 吃高蛋白和努力工作的人。 |
| 2502 | So they can be | 所以他们可以 |
| 2503 | taken away. | 带走了 |
| 2504 | That's safer. | 这样比较安全 |
| 2505 | And some versions of these like literal glutide, the original one, | 和一些版本的这些像 字面的过量, 原的, |
| 2506 | they've been around for decades and the others have been around for about a decade. | 他们已经左右数十年, 其他人已经左右大约十年。 |
| 2507 | And we already | 我们已经 |
| 2508 | have, as you said, 10% of the population taking them. | 正如你所说,10%的人口服用了这些药物。 |
| 2509 | So they're already quite widely distributed. | 所以它们已经很广泛分布。 |
| 2510 | It's a good sample size. | 样本尺寸不错. |
| 2511 | Yeah, it's a great sample size. | 是啊,这是一个伟大的样本大小。 |
| 2512 | What more do you need? | 你还需要什么? |
| 2513 | Like if you, if you have a bacterial | 就像你,如果你有细菌 |
| 2514 | infection that's eating you, I don't say, oh, I have this antibiotic, but it's going to raise | 感染正在吞噬你,我不说, 哦,我有这种抗生素,但它会增加 |
| 2515 | your blood pressure. | 你的血压。 |
| 2516 | It's like, no, take the antibiotic. | 这就像,不,服用抗生素。 |
| 2517 | If you're going to kill yourself, | 如果你要自杀 |
| 2518 | I say, take this anti-psychotic and stay alive a little longer and solve it. | 我说,拿着这个抗精神病药 活得更久一点,解决它 |
| 2519 | I don't say, | 我不说, |
| 2520 | it's going to cause your heart rate to go up by three beats a minute. | 这会让你的心率每分钟上升三下 |
| 2521 | I don't worry about that. | 我不担心这一点。 |
| 2522 | So similarly, if you're poisoning yourself with toxins and overuse of substances that | 同样,如果你用毒素毒死自己 和过度使用药物 |
| 2523 | you shouldn't be using either heroin, alcohol, cigarettes, sugar, or just sheer calories, | 你不应该使用海洛因, 酒精,香烟,糖, 或者纯粹的卡路里, |
| 2524 | 把这个GLP-1。 | |
| 2525 | They also improve digestion. | 它们也会改善消化. |
| 2526 | You just have less calories, just less food matter | 你只是热量少,食物少 |
| 2527 | going through your stomach. | 穿过你的胃。 |
| 2528 | They lower cancer risks across the board. | 它们全面降低癌症风险. |
| 2529 | There's quite a few cancers | 有不少癌症 |
| 2530 | that lower. | 再低一点 |
| 2531 | Cardiovascular, I mean, I don't know what else to tell you. | 心血管,我的意思是,我不知道还有什么 告诉你。 |
| 2532 | I've been very surprised by the negative reception whenever you have a conversation | 每当你说话的时候 我都会对负面的接待感到惊讶 |
| 2533 | 关于GLP-1. | |
| 2534 | And I think a lot of it may be people who... | 我觉得很多人可能... |
| 2535 | Well, think about how many sacred cows are being gored, right? | 好吧,想想有多少神圣的牛 被挖,对不对? |
| 2536 | All the people who are basically | 基本上都是这样的人 |
| 2537 | saying, you should work harder. | 说,你应该努力工作。 |
| 2538 | You should be fit like I did, right? | 莱赣钩и妓癸盾 |
| 2539 | It's lowering their status. | 这降低了他们的地位。 |
| 2540 | Think about all the nutritionists and doctors and trainers who are now being, you know, | 想想现在所有营养学家、医生和训练者 |
| 2541 | it's too easy. | 这太容易了。 |
| 2542 | They're being put out of business in a way, right? | 他们从某种意义上说就被赶出去,对吗? |
| 2543 | It's kind of like, why does | 这有点像,为什么 |
| 2544 | the American military keep buying aircraft carriers in an age of drones? | 美军在无人驾驶飞机时代 继续购买航空母舰? |
| 2545 | There's an incentive | 有个奖励 |
| 2546 | bias. | 偏执。 |
| 2547 | There's a very strong motivated reasoning, but it doesn't matter. | 有很强的动机推理,但这并不重要. |
| 2548 | 10% of people are on it. | 10%的人在调查 |
| 2549 | Everybody wants to be fit. | 每个人都想适应 |
| 2550 | It's going to spread like wildfire. | 它会像野火一样蔓延 |
| 2551 | I was just thinking as you were talking that, you know, when we think about health and | 我只是在想,当你在说, 你知道,当我们思考 健康, |
| 2552 | a lot of people kind of get captured by the way that they were brought up, | 很多人都因为长大而被抓获 |
| 2553 | the habits that they had from their childhood or what mom and dad did or genetic predisposition | 他们从小就有的习惯 或父母做了什么或遗传倾向 |
| 2554 | and stuff like that. | 和类似的东西。 |
| 2555 | I think you have as many reasons, as many people to sort of feel hard | 我想你有同样多的理由, 多少人觉得很难 |
| 2556 | done by challenges that you had earlier on in your life. | 由你之前在人生中遇到的挑战完成 |
| 2557 | Is getting past your past a skill, | 超越你的过去是一种技巧, |
| 2558 | sort of not being owned today by your history, sort of not having that victimhood mentality? | 那种不为你的历史所拥有, 那种没有那种受害者心态? |
| 2559 | Yeah, I did have a tough childhood, but I don't think about it. | 是啊,我有一个艰难的童年, 但我不考虑它。 |
| 2560 | You know, I think there are a | 你知道,我觉得有一个 |
| 2561 | couple of things going on there. | 发生了两件事 |
| 2562 | One is I did process it quite a bit. | 其一,我处理过很多。 |
| 2563 | I thought about it, | 我考虑过了 |
| 2564 | but I thought about it to get rid of it. | 但我想把它除掉 |
| 2565 | I didn't think about it to dwell on it or to indulge. | 我考虑的不是沉浸在其中 也不是沉浸在其中 |
| 2566 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2567 | I wanted to be successful. | 我想成为成功的。 |
| 2568 | I wanted more than anything else to rise past that. | 我最想的就是摆脱这一切 |
| 2569 | And so I couldn't have that as a burden on me. | 所以我不能承担这个负担 |
| 2570 | So I had to get rid of it. | 故得除灭. |
| 2571 | So to the extent that I | 因此,我的程度 |
| 2572 | dealt with it, it was for the express purpose of getting rid of it, not to create an identity | 处理它,它是为了明确 摆脱它,而不是创造身份 |
| 2573 | or story or to reflect upon it or to say, look at me, look at what I've accomplished and look | 或故事 或思考 或说, 看着我, 看看我的成就,看看 |
| 2574 | great I am and what I've done. | 伟大的我和我做的。 |
| 2575 | So I got rid of it. | 遂弃之. |
| 2576 | And I think at some point you wrestle with that | 我想在某个时候,你和那个 |
| 2577 | thing and then you just realize you're never going to untangle the whole thing. | 事情,你只是意识到 你永远不会解开 整个事情。 |
| 2578 | It's a Gordian knot | 这是高地结 |
| 2579 | problem. | 问题。 |
| 2580 | Like Alexander found that tangled knot in India and it said, oh, the famous conqueror | 就像Alexander在印度发现那个缠绕的结 它说,哦,著名的征服者 |
| 2581 | will come and will untie this knot. | 来解开这个结 |
| 2582 | Nobody else can untie the knot. | 没有人能解开结 |
| 2583 | And he took one look at it, | 他看了一眼, |
| 2584 | pulled out a sword and just cut it. | 拔出一把剑就砍了 |
| 2585 | So at some point you just have to cut your past. | 所以,在某些时候,你只需要切除你的过去。 |
| 2586 | If your | 狦 |
| 2587 | past is bothering you, you will eventually get tired of trying to untangle that knot and you | 过去让你烦恼 最后你会厌倦解开结 |
| 2588 | will just drop it because you will realize life is short. | 因为你会意识到生命是短暂的 |
| 2589 | And the more you want to accomplish in | 你越想在 |
| 2590 | this life, actually the less time you have to unravel that thing. | 其实你越少时间去解开它 |
| 2591 | So I just wanted to actually | 所以我就想说 |
| 2592 | get things done. | 把事情办好 |
| 2593 | So I had no time to deal with it. | 所以我没有时间处理它。 |
| 2594 | So I just cut it. | 所以我就把它剪下来了 |
| 2595 | It's like a really bad | 这就像一个真正的坏 |
| 2596 | relationship, but in this case, it's a bad relationship with your own history. | 关系,但在这种情况下,与你自己的历史关系是不好的. |
| 2597 | So you just | 这么说你只是 |
| 2598 | drop it. | 放下枪 |
| 2599 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2600 | I think so much of what we've spoken about today is on the shortness of life | 我认为今天我们谈论的 大多是关于生命的短暂 |
| 2601 | and the fact that every moment is precious. | 和每个时刻都是宝贵的。 |
| 2602 | You have to take about the most fundamental resource | 你必须拥有最基本的资源 |
| 2603 | in your life is not time, it's attention. | 在你的生活中不是时间,而是注意力。 |
| 2604 | That's right. | 没错 |
| 2605 | I used to think, you know, | 我以前觉得,你知道, |
| 2606 | the currency of life, right? | 生命的货币,对不对? |
| 2607 | People think it's money and yes, money is important. | 人们认为这是钱 是的,钱是重要的。 |
| 2608 | And it does | 它确实如此 |
| 2609 | let you trade certain things for time, but it doesn't really buy your time. | 让你用某些东西换取时间, 但这并不真正需要你的时间。 |
| 2610 | Ask Warren Buffett | 问沃伦·巴菲特 |
| 2611 | how much time money can buy you or Michael Bloomberg. | 多少时间的钱可以买你或迈克尔·布隆伯格。 |
| 2612 | They're, you know, rich as Scrooge | 他们,你知道,富如斯克鲁格 |
| 2613 | and crisis, but they can't buy more time, right? | 和危机,但他们不能 争取更多的时间,对不对? |
| 2614 | Brian Johnson, notwithstanding. | 布莱恩・约翰逊,尽管。 |
| 2615 | So you can't trade money for time. | 所以你不能用钱换取时间 |
| 2616 | Money is not the real currency of life. | 钱不是真正的生命货币。 |
| 2617 | And time | 时间 |
| 2618 | itself doesn't even mean that much because as we talked about before, a lot of time can be wasted | 它本身甚至没有那么重要 因为正如我们之前谈到的, 很多时间可以浪费 |
| 2619 | because you're not really present for it. | 因为你不是真正的在场。 |
| 2620 | You're not paying attention. | 你没注意 |
| 2621 | So the real currency of | 所以真正的货币 |
| 2622 | life is attention. | 生命就是关注 |
| 2623 | It's what you choose to pay attention to and what you do about it. | 所选择的专注和行为. |
| 2624 | Back to the point about the news media, you can put your attention on the news, but that's how | 关于新闻媒体,你可以把注意力放在新闻上,但这就是 |
| 2625 | you're spending the real currency of life. | 你要花真正的生命货币。 |
| 2626 | So just be aware of that. | 所以请记住这一点。 |
| 2627 | If you want to, that's fine. | 如果你想的话,没关系。 |
| 2628 | There's no right or wrong here. | 这里没有对错 |
| 2629 | Like maybe it is your destiny to pick something in the news, | 就像也许是你的命运 在新闻中挑选一些东西, |
| 2630 | learn about that problem, adopt that problem and solve it. | 了解这个问题,采纳这个问题并加以解决。 |
| 2631 | But just be careful because | 但是小心点,因为 |
| 2632 | your attention is the only thing that you have. | 你的注意力是你唯一拥有的 |
| 2633 | And that can also be captured by your own past. | 这也可以被你自己的过去抓住 |
| 2634 | Yes. | 对 |
| 2635 | You can fiddle it away on anything you like. | 随便你怎么说都可以 |
| 2636 | Is there an advantage to starting out as a loser? | 以失败者的身份开始有什么好处吗? |
| 2637 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 2638 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 2639 | Because if you're a loser, then you'll want to be a winner and then you'll | 因为如果你是一个失败者, 然后,你会想成为一个胜利者,然后你会 |
| 2640 | develop all the characteristics that will help you be a quote unquote winner in life. | 开发出所有能帮助你成为 人生中无法引用的赢家的特性。 |
| 2641 | That said, I wouldn't sentence my kids to it. | 这么说,我不会判我的孩子死刑 |
| 2642 | I don't think you can artificially do that. | 我不认为你可以人工做到这一点。 |
| 2643 | Imagine that 300 years ago, you were born a serf and then somehow you managed to escape | 想象三百年前 你生来就是农奴 然后不知怎的逃出来了 |
| 2644 | off the farm and you become a landowner and then eventually you become a minor | 离开农场,你成为土地所有者 最后你成为未成年人 |
| 2645 | nobility and aristocrat. | 贵族和贵族. |
| 2646 | Are you going to put your kids back on the farm and say, | 你会把你的孩子 回到农场说, |
| 2647 | you're going to be a serf again? | 你又要当农奴了? |
| 2648 | I know they all like those stories. | 我知道他们都喜欢那些故事 |
| 2649 | The kids themselves | 孩子们自己 |
| 2650 | like those stories because it says, I came from the school of hard knocks. | 就像那些故事 因为它说, 我来自学校 硬敲。 |
| 2651 | My dad made | 我父亲做的 |
| 2652 | me go shovel hay for a summer. | 我去铲干干草一个夏天。 |
| 2653 | It's not real. | 非实相. |
| 2654 | I mean, you're not going to trick them. | 我的意思是,你不会欺骗他们。 |
| 2655 | I think all you can do is kind of cultivate an appreciation and gratitude for what you have. | 我认为你所能做的就是 培养一种欣赏和感激 你拥有的东西。 |
| 2656 | And the only way to do that is just evidence it yourself. | 唯一的办法就是自己证明 |
| 2657 | Just show yourself how you spend | 让你自己看看怎么花 |
| 2658 | money, how you respect it, what you do with it, how you take care of people, | 钱,你如何尊重它, 你做什么,你如何照顾人, |
| 2659 | who you're responsible for. | 你对谁负责? |
| 2660 | And the more resources you have, the greater the tribe you can take care | 你拥有的资源越多 你就能照顾的部落越多 |
| 2661 | of, the more of the tribe you can take care of. | 越多的部落你可以照顾。 |
| 2662 | So when you have no resources, you're struggling | 所以,当你没有资源, 你挣扎 |
| 2663 | to take care of yourself. | 照顾好自己。 |
| 2664 | And at that point, it's good to be selfish because you can't save | 这时候,自私是件好事 因为你救不了 |
| 2665 | somebody else if you can't even save yourself. | 如果你连自己都救不了 别人 |
| 2666 | So you take care of yourself and you become the | 所以,你照顾自己,你成为 |
| 2667 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你最厉害的版本 | |
| 2668 | But there are too many men who are able, fit and have some money who are | 但是,有太多的人 有能力,适合和有 一些钱是 |
| 2669 | doing nothing with their lives. | 他们的生活一无所获 |
| 2670 | They're just sitting at home doing nothing, just indulging | 他们只是坐在家里无所事事,只是心烦意乱 |
| 2671 | in themselves. | 在他们自己。 |
| 2672 | Maybe they go on dates and they get doordashed. | 也许他们去约会 并得到了门罩。 |
| 2673 | I have no respect for that. | 我不尊重这一点。 |
| 2674 | I think | 我觉得 |
| 2675 | there's nothing worse in society than a lazy man because he's sort of leaving it all on the table. | 社会上没有什么比懒汉更糟糕的了 因为他把一切都放在桌上 |
| 2676 | He's leaving his potential on the table. | 他把潜力放在桌上了 |
| 2677 | It's bad for him. | 对他不好 |
| 2678 | So the next thing you do is you go and | 所以接下来你要做的就是去 |
| 2679 | you have a family and you take care of your family, take care of that tribe. | 你有一个家庭,你照顾你的家人, 照顾那个部落。 |
| 2680 | Then you take care of | 那你就照顾好 |
| 2681 | your extended family, take care of your cousins, brothers, uncles, grandmothers, aunts, sisters, | 照顾你的表弟、兄弟、叔叔、祖母、姨妈、姐妹 |
| 2682 | everybody that you can. | 每个人都可以。 |
| 2683 | And then if you have more resources beyond that, then you go take care of | 如果你有更多的资源,然后你去照顾 |
| 2684 | your local tribe. | 你的当地部落。 |
| 2685 | You take care of your people. | 你照顾好你的人 |
| 2686 | You start trying to do some good for the world. | 你开始努力为世界做点好事 |
| 2687 | And if you have more resources than that, you go take care of an even bigger tribe. | 如果你有 更多的资源,你去照顾一个更大的部落。 |
| 2688 | And that's how | 就是这样 |
| 2689 | you earn both respect and self-confidence and you live up to your potential. | 你既赢得了尊重,又赢得了自信 也实现了你的潜力 |
| 2690 | So the more you have, | 所以,你越拥有, |
| 2691 | the more is rightfully expected of you. | 对你的期望越高 |
| 2692 | And I think it's a good compact with society when highly | 我认为它是一个很好的契约 社会,当高级 |
| 2693 | capable people express and flex that capability by giving more and more and by doing more and more. | 有能力的人通过付出更多和付出更多的努力来表达和灵活地发挥这种能力。 |
| 2694 | And society rewards them with the one thing they can't get otherwise, which is status, right? | 而社会奖励他们 唯一他们得不到的东西, 这是地位,对不对? |
| 2695 | So society should give you status in exchange for it. | 所以社会应该给你地位来换取它. |
| 2696 | They should say, okay, you did a good job. | 他们应该说,好吧,你做得很好。 |
| 2697 | You took care of more people than just yourself and just the people immediately around you. | 你照顾的人比你自己还多 也不只是你身边的人 |
| 2698 | And that's what an alpha male to me is. | 对我来说,这就是一个α雄性。 |
| 2699 | An alpha male is not the one who gets to eat first. | α雄兽不是先吃后吃的人. |
| 2700 | The | 那个 |
| 2701 | alpha male eats last. | 阿尔法雄性最后吃。 |
| 2702 | The alpha male feeds everybody else first and then gets to eat last. | 阿尔法雄性先喂其他人 然后最后吃 |
| 2703 | And they do | 他们做的 |
| 2704 | that out of their own self-respect and pride. | 那是出于他们的自尊和骄傲 |
| 2705 | And the society rewards them by calling them an alpha | 社会奖励他们,称他们为阿尔法 |
| 2706 | and giving them status. | 并给予他们地位。 |
| 2707 | I wonder whether some of the pushback that we've got against rich, wealthy, | 我想知道我们是否对富人有所反感 |
| 2708 | powerful people is disincentivizing. | 强大的人正在失去动力。 |
| 2709 | It is. | 没错 |
| 2710 | Who is it? | 是谁? |
| 2711 | Zuck who donated money to Zuckerberg | 向扎克伯格捐款的扎克 |
| 2712 | General Hospital and then they wanted to pull his name off of it. | 然后他们想把他的名字摘下来 |
| 2713 | I didn't see that, but that's | 我没有看到,但这是 |
| 2714 | ridiculous. | 荒谬 |
| 2715 | That kind of stuff backfires, right? | 那种东西反射,对不对? |
| 2716 | You should reward people for doing what you're | 你应该奖励别人做你的事 |
| 2717 | saying before. | 说之前。 |
| 2718 | You don't just need to, in fact, actively avoid castigating people if you want | 你并不只需要,事实上, 积极避免阉割人们 如果你想 |
| 2719 | their behavior to change when they get something wrong. | 他们的行为会改变 当他们得到什么错误。 |
| 2720 | Look at reinforcing it when they get | 等他们来了再加固 |
| 2721 | something right. | 东西是正确的。 |
| 2722 | It's happening at a societal level as well. | 也发生在社会层面。 |
| 2723 | Correct. | 没错 |
| 2724 | The guys who make a lot | 赚大钱的人 |
| 2725 | of money and go out and buy sports teams, I wouldn't do that. | 有钱去买运动队,我不会那么做的 |
| 2726 | But the one who goes out and | 但谁出去, |
| 2727 | builds a hospital or builds a rocket to take people to the moon or rescue some astronauts, | 建造医院或建造火箭送人上月球或营救一些宇航员 |
| 2728 | you should be rewarding him for that. | 你应该奖励他 |
| 2729 | Naval, I really appreciate you. | 海军,我真的很感激你。 |
| 2730 | I hope that this has | 我希望这是 |
| 2731 | moved up to whatever weird daydreams you've been having. | 搬到了任何奇怪的白日梦中去 |
| 2732 | What have you got coming up? | 你有什么发现? |
| 2733 | What can people expect from you over the next however long? | 人们能期待你多长的时间? |
| 2734 | Expect nothing. | 期待什么也没有。 |
| 2735 | That's the most | 这是最 |
| 2736 | naval way that we could have finished this. | 海军的方式,我们可以完成这一点。 |
| 2737 | Dude, it's been a long time coming and I really do | 哥们儿 好久不见 真的 |
| 2738 | appreciate you for being here today. | 感谢你今天能来 |
| 2739 | But I do hope to deliver something. | 但我确实希望能够提供一些东西。 |
| 2740 | I think you have. | 我想你们有 |
| 2741 | So thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 2742 | Thanks for having me. | 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 2743 | Thank you too. | 谢谢 |
| 2744 | Thanks for getting in my mind and hopefully now | 感谢您进入我的思想 希望现在 |
| 2745 | you're out. | 你出来了。 |
| 2746 | We'll see. | 等着瞧吧 |
| 2747 | It might be even worse now. | 现在可能更糟了 |
| 2748 | You've got the real memories to stick with. | 你有真实的记忆 坚持。 |
| 2749 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 2750 | The reason to do the podcast is to be done with it. | 做播客的理由是用它完成的. |
| 2751 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 2752 | Wow. | 珃 |
| 2753 | You made it to the end. | 你走到了尽头 |
| 2754 | Congratulations. | 祝贺你 |
| 2755 | Well, if you enjoyed that, | 如果你喜欢的话 |
| 2756 | you're going to love my full length conversation with the one and only Alain de Botton from the | 你会喜欢我和阿兰·德·博顿的谈话的 |
| 2757 | School of Life right here. | 生命学院就在这里。 |
| 2758 | Go on. | 继续 |
| 2759 | Press it. | 按下来。 |
| 2760 | Press | 新闻 |
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