斯坦福大学：如何设计人生
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | on your life is to recognize there is no getting you right. | 你的生命是承认你没有权利 |
| 0:03 | There is no right life. | 没有正确的生活。 |
| 0:05 | There's just getting it going. | 刚刚开始 |
| 0:06 | Do you have it in you to be something? | 你身上有东西吗? |
| 0:08 | You will find your way by living into your life. | 你会找到自己的方式 生活到你的生活。 |
| 0:11 | You build your way forward. | 你建立自己的前进之路。 |
| 0:13 | There is no knowing. | 没有人知道。 |
| 0:15 | There is only doing, learning, and growing. | 只有做事、学习和成长 |
| 0:17 | The job is not working. | 这份工作不起作用。 |
| 0:18 | The marriage isn't working. | 婚姻没有效果。 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | on your life is to recognize there is no getting you right. | 你的生命是承认你没有权利 |
| 2 | There is no right life. | 没有正确的生活。 |
| 3 | There's just getting it going. | 刚刚开始 |
| 4 | Do you have it in you to be something? | 你身上有东西吗? |
| 5 | You will find your way by living into your life. | 你会找到自己的方式 生活到你的生活。 |
| 6 | You build your way forward. | 你建立自己的前进之路。 |
| 7 | There is no knowing. | 没有人知道。 |
| 8 | There is only doing, learning, and growing. | 只有做事、学习和成长 |
| 9 | The job is not working. | 这份工作不起作用。 |
| 10 | The marriage isn't working. | 婚姻没有效果。 |
| 11 | There's something I'm really unhappy about. | 有件事我真的很不高兴 |
| 12 | But that doesn't mean there aren't other parts of your life | 但这并不意味着你的生活没有其他部分 |
| 13 | where more meaning and more aliveness are lurking latently | 更有意义和更活泼的地方潜伏着 |
| 14 | waiting for you to discover them. | 等待你发现它们。 |
| 15 | Don't let those go. | 不要让那些走。 |
| 16 | There's more life in you than you think. | 你的生活比你想象的还多 |
| 17 | There's more possibilities than you think. | 比你想象的还可能 |
| 18 | Just try something. | 试试看 |
| 19 | Try something really small and see if you can find | 试试小东西 看看能不能找到 |
| 20 | that little piece of joy or just like a pointer | 欢乐的一小块 或者像指针 |
| 21 | towards something that wakes you up. | 向唤醒你的东西。 |
| 22 | We know you can do it. | 我们知道你能做到的。 |
| 23 | At the end of the day, what we're really doing, | 最终,我们真正在做什么, |
| 24 | we're just giving people permission to live their lives. | 我们只是允许人们生活 |
| 25 | So instead of working on the what is the meaning of life, | 因此,与其研究生命的意义, |
| 26 | we're here to give you tools to design more meaning | 我们是来给你设计更多意义的工具的 |
| 27 | in life. | 在生活中。 。 。 |
| 28 | I am so excited for you to experience this episode. | 我很高兴你能体验这一集 |
| 29 | It is incredible. | 难以置信 |
| 30 | You're gonna love these two professors. | 你会喜欢这两位教授的 |
| 31 | But first, I have an ask of you. | 但首先,我有一个要求你。 |
| 32 | See, I just learned from my team that 53% of you | 你看,我刚从我的团队 得知53%的你们 |
| 33 | that watch the Mel Robbins podcast here on YouTube | 在YouTube上观看梅尔·罗宾斯播客 |
| 34 | are not subscribers. | 非订阅者。 |
| 35 | I have this goal that by the end of the year, | 我有一个目标,到年底, |
| 36 | that number drops to 50%. | 这个数字下降到50%。 |
| 37 | So I'm just talking 3%. | 所以,我只是说3%。 |
| 38 | 在YouTube上观看的50%的人 | |
| 39 | are subscribers. | 用户。 |
| 40 | It's the best way that you can support me and the team | 这是你支持我和团队的最好方式 |
| 41 | if the subscribe button is lit up, | 如果订阅按钮被点亮, |
| 42 | it means you're not a subscriber. | 意思是你不是订户 |
| 43 | Just hit subscribe. | 刚刚点击订阅。 |
| 44 | It's free. | 自由无碍. |
| 45 | You're not gonna miss a thing. | 你不会错过任何东西。 |
| 46 | And it tells us you love this podcast. | 它告诉我们你爱这个播客。 |
| 47 | You love the world renowned experts | 你爱世界知名专家 |
| 48 | that we're bringing you here for free. | 我们免费带你来这里 |
| 49 | You love this as a resource. | 你爱这个资源。 |
| 50 | I really, really, really appreciate it. | 我真的,真的,真的很感谢它。 |
| 51 | And you know what else I appreciate you. | 你知道我还感谢你什么 |
| 52 | I love that you spend your time watching something | 我喜欢你花时间看东西 |
| 53 | that's helping you create a more meaningful life. | 帮助你创造更有意义的生活 |
| 54 | And that's exactly what this episode is gonna do. | 这正是这个剧集要做的。 |
| 55 | So let's get into it. | 因此,让我们开始吧。 |
| 56 | Bill Barnett and Dave Evans, | 比尔·巴内特和戴夫·埃文斯 |
| 57 | welcome to the Mel Robbins podcast. | 欢迎来到梅尔・罗宾斯播客。 |
| 58 | Mel, thanks for having us. | 梅尔,谢谢你邀请我们。 |
| 59 | We're thrilled to be here. | 我们很高兴来到这里。 |
| 60 | Yeah, this is fantastic. | 是啊,这太棒了。 |
| 61 | You two have been at the top of my list | 你们两个一直 在我的榜首 |
| 62 | since I started this. | 自从我开始这个。 |
| 63 | I have been waiting for this moment. | 我一直在等待这一刻。 |
| 64 | I hope you don't disappoint me. | 我希望你不要让我失望。 |
| 65 | No, I'm just kidding. | 不,我只是在开玩笑。 |
| 66 | You could have called sooner. | 你可以早点打电话的 |
| 67 | We would have come sooner. | 我们会早点来 |
| 68 | Oh my gosh. | 天呐 |
| 69 | Here's where I wanna start. | 我想从这里开始 |
| 70 | How will my life be different | 我的生活怎么会不一样 |
| 71 | if I take to heart everything | 如果我把一切都带入心脏 |
| 72 | that you're about to share with us today | 你今天要跟我们分享 |
| 73 | and I apply it to my life? | 我把它应用到我的生活? |
| 74 | You're gonna get freer. | 你会得到更多的自由。 |
| 75 | You're gonna feel more agency in your life. | 你会觉得你的生活更有代理。 |
| 76 | You're gonna realize you actually know | 你会意识到你其实知道 |
| 77 | how to find your way. | 如何寻找你的方式。 |
| 78 | And as you go along it, | 当你走它, |
| 79 | you can make meaning every day. | 你每天都可以让意义。 |
| 80 | Everybody's so busy and there's so much going on. | 众皆忙忙而有余事. |
| 81 | It's all, you're gonna learn | 就是这样,你会学到的 |
| 82 | that it's not about cramming more stuff yet. | 现在还不是想塞更多东西 |
| 83 | It's about getting more out of what you've already got | 这是关于从你已经得到的更多 |
| 84 | and what you can design for. | 和你能设计什么。 |
| 85 | And I think that helps people just relax | 我觉得这可以帮助人们放松 |
| 86 | and understand that they probably have enough. | 并且明白,他们可能有足够的。 |
| 87 | Bill, what do you think it is about the popularity | 比尔,你觉得流行是什么? |
| 88 | of both of your books and the course? | 你的书和课程? |
| 89 | What does all of this interest say to you | 这些兴趣都对你说了什么? |
| 90 | about what we're searching for? | 我们在找什么? |
| 91 | Yeah, well, I mean, particularly amongst the students, | 是啊,嗯,我的意思是, 尤其是学生, |
| 92 | and I've taught at Stanford | 我在斯坦福大学教书 |
| 93 | and I've taught all over the place. | 则教遍一切处. |
| 94 | We've got over 600 schools now teaching the class. | 现在有600多所学校在授课 |
| 95 | We've trained 600 schools. | 我们训练了600所学校。 |
| 96 | With the students, it's really clear. | 和学生们一起,这是非常清楚的。 |
| 97 | It's gotten kind of worse lately | 最近情况越来越糟了 |
| 98 | in the last five or six or seven years, | 过去五、六、七年 |
| 99 | social media and other things. | 社交媒体等。 |
| 100 | It's, you know, will I find a good, | 你知道,我会找到一个好, |
| 101 | will I have a good life? | 我会过上美好的生活吗? |
| 102 | Will I find a good job in it? | 我能找到一份好工作吗? |
| 103 | You know, I want meaning and purpose, | 你知道,我想要意义和目的, |
| 104 | but people tell me jobs aren't purposeful. | 但人们告诉我工作不是有目的的 |
| 105 | The Gallup poll says 70% of Americans | 盖洛普民意调查显示70%的美国人 |
| 106 | are disengaged from their job. | 被辞去工作 |
| 107 | Is that the world I'm going into? | 那是我要去的世界吗? |
| 108 | It's gonna be that bad. | 这会是那么糟糕。 |
| 109 | And so for the students, it's that kind of anxiety | 所以对于学生来说 就是那种焦虑 |
| 110 | about how do I get started? | 我该怎么开始? |
| 111 | And I had been in office hours for students | 我为学生在办公时间 |
| 112 | for years and years and years | 数年和数年 |
| 113 | before Dave and I put this together. | 在我和Dave整理之前 |
| 114 | And it seemed clear to me | 对我来说似乎很清楚 |
| 115 | that designing the new thing in the world, | 设计新事物 在世界上, |
| 116 | because I've been teaching designers to design iPhones | 因为我一直在教设计师设计iPhone |
| 117 | and iPads and websites and things for years, | 和iPad和网站 和东西多年, |
| 118 | designing the new thing in the world | 设计世界的新事物 |
| 119 | was just like designing the you. | 就像设计你一样 |
| 120 | Like, what am I gonna be in my future? | 我的未来会怎样? |
| 121 | So everybody had that problem. | 所以每个人都有这个问题。 |
| 122 | And then we started working with folks | 然后我们开始和人们合作 |
| 123 | like in, you know, so mid-careers, 35, 45. | 喜欢,你知道,所以中 职业生涯,35,45。 |
| 124 | And they're having the same question. | 他们也有同样的问题 |
| 125 | You know, it's like, gee, it isn't as much, | 你知道,这就像,天哪, 它没有那么多, |
| 126 | it wasn't as cool as I thought it would be, | 没有我想的那么酷 |
| 127 | or I'm kind of done with this job, or it needs a pivot. | 或者我干完这个工作了, 或者它需要一个支点。 |
| 128 | Now what? | 现在怎么办? |
| 129 | And I haven't thought about that in a long time, | 我很久没考虑这个了 |
| 130 | and I don't have any framework for thinking about it. | 我没有任何框架来思考它。 |
| 131 | And I've been doing work with folks who are retiring, | 我和退休的人一起工作过 |
| 132 | you know, in their 50s, 60s and older, | 你知道,在他们的50,60岁及以上, |
| 133 | and, or folks that are, you know, | 还有,或者那些,你知道, |
| 134 | some of the empty nesters. | 一些空巢鸟。 |
| 135 | And they're like, well, geez, I organized my whole life, | 他们就像,嗯,上帝, 我组织我的整个生活, |
| 136 | my wife and I are empty nesters, | 我的妻子和我都是空巢客, |
| 137 | organized my whole life around my kids. | 我一生都在孩子身边 |
| 138 | And now it's just me and my wife, | 现在只有我和我妻子 |
| 139 | like, do we even know each other? | 我们甚至认识吗? |
| 140 | Do we even like each other anymore? | 我们甚至喜欢对方了吗? |
| 141 | What are we gonna do? | 我们该怎么办? |
| 142 | So this question just keeps coming up, | 这个问题不断出现 |
| 143 | and it's about, will my life, will my future be meaningful? | 我的未来会有意义吗? |
| 144 | Can I find something to do that has got some purpose in it? | 我能找点事做吗? |
| 145 | And a lot of the structures of that used to be, | 过去很多的结构是, |
| 146 | well, you had a community, | 好吧,你有一个社区, |
| 147 | everybody grew up in the same town, | 每个人都在同一个小镇长大, |
| 148 | and so you knew where you fit in, | 所以,你知道你在哪里适合, |
| 149 | or maybe you had a faith community or a church or something. | 或者你有一个信仰社区 或者教堂什么的 |
| 150 | And a lot of those communities have gone away. | 许多社区已经消失。 |
| 151 | This is huge loneliness. | 这是巨大的孤独。 |
| 152 | People really feel isolated and lonely, | 人们真的感到孤立和孤独, |
| 153 | and things are changing so fast, right? | 事情变化这么快,对不对? |
| 154 | That they don't know where to turn | 他们不知道该往哪里转 |
| 155 | for even a way to get started. | 即使是开始的方法。 |
| 156 | You say in your number one New York Times | 你在纽约时报的头号新闻里说 |
| 157 | bestselling book, Design Your Life, | 畅销书,设计你的人生, |
| 158 | that the true way to design a life is to design your lives. | 设计生活的真正方式 就是设计你的生活 |
| 159 | What does that mean? | 这是什么意思? |
| 160 | We say all the time, | 我们一直说, |
| 161 | all of us contain more aliveness, more personhood, | 我们每个人都有 更多的生命,更多的人格, |
| 162 | than one lifetime permission to live out. | 超过一生一次的许可 |
| 163 | There's more than one of you in there. | 彼诸众生. |
| 164 | Which is why, by the way, | 这就是为什么,顺便说一句, |
| 165 | Maslow's idea about self-actualization | 马斯洛关于自我实现的想法 |
| 166 | through fulfillment is dead wrong, | 通过实现是错的, |
| 167 | because he literally says on the 1943 paper, | 因为他在1943年的报纸上说 |
| 168 | you achieve that by becoming all that one can be. | 你通过成为唯一可以做到的 |
| 169 | No, you can't possibly be all that you can be, | 不,你不可能成为你的全部, |
| 170 | because you're way bigger than your own lifetime. | 因为你比自己的人生还大 |
| 171 | Look, I've buried plenty of people. | 你看,我已经埋葬了很多人。 |
| 172 | None of them were done. | 皆无所作. |
| 173 | That's the good news. | 这是好消息。 |
| 174 | Oh, whoa. | 哦,哇呜。 |
| 175 | I wanna make sure that you didn't miss it. | 我想确定你没有错过 |
| 176 | We've buried a lot of good people, | 我们埋葬了很多好人 |
| 177 | and none of them were done. | 而他们中没有一个没有做过。 |
| 178 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 179 | I mean, I'm at an age where I know | 我的意思是,我在一个年龄 我知道 |
| 180 | plenty of dead people closely, | 很多人都死得很惨, |
| 181 | and they all left with a long to-do list. | 他们都带着长长的待办事宜清单离开了。 |
| 182 | That's the good news. | 这是好消息。 |
| 183 | You're far bigger than your lifetime, | 你远比你的一生, |
| 184 | so the chance of you being bored | 让你无聊的机会 |
| 185 | or running out of things is zero if you're paying attention. | 如果你注意的话 事情就会变成零 |
| 186 | Right. | 对 |
| 187 | That's the good news. | 这是好消息。 |
| 188 | So the best way to design your life | 所以设计你生活的最佳方法 |
| 189 | is to recognize there is no getting you right. | 承认你没有权利 |
| 190 | There is no right life. | 没有正确的生活。 |
| 191 | There are lots of good lives. | 有很多美好的生活。 |
| 192 | Let's go lean into them. | 让我们去倾斜他们。 |
| 193 | And by the way, you don't know the future. | 顺便说一句,你不知道未来 |
| 194 | You might have a good idea and implement it poorly. | 你可能有个好主意 执行得不好 |
| 195 | You might have an idea you thought was good | 你可能有个想法,你觉得很好 |
| 196 | and it didn't work out very well. | 但结果并不好 |
| 197 | Whoops. | 呜呼. |
| 198 | Oh, I blew it. | 哦,我搞砸了,我错了。 |
| 199 | No, I learned my way forward, and I'm gonna keep going. | 不,我学会了前进的方向, 我会继续前进。 |
| 200 | There's no getting it right. | 根本说不对 |
| 201 | There's just getting it going. | 刚刚开始 |
| 202 | Imagine this. | 想想这个 |
| 203 | We have this linear accelerator at Stanford. | 斯坦福有个线性加速器 |
| 204 | It's not as big as it used to be | 它没有以前那么大 |
| 205 | because we have bigger ones now, | 因为我们现在有更大的 |
| 206 | but this one's pretty good. | 但是这个不错 |
| 207 | It still runs. | 它还在运行。 |
| 208 | And I can put you in the tube | 我可以把你放进管子里 |
| 209 | and fire you to the end of the accelerators, two miles long. | 并解雇你 到加速器的尽头, 两英里长。 |
| 210 | And by the time you get to the end, | 到最后的时候 |
| 211 | you're going 99.999% of the speed of light, | 光速的99.999%, |
| 212 | at which point you will experience the multiverse. | 那时你将体验到多元性 |
| 213 | And you can have as many lives as you want simultaneously. | 你可以同时拥有你想要的生活。 |
| 214 | You could be the astronaut and the ballerina | 你可以做宇航员和芭蕾舞演员 |
| 215 | and the stay-at-home mom, | 和留在家里的母亲, |
| 216 | and you'll know about all the universes at the same time. | 你会知道所有宇宙 同时。 |
| 217 | And then we asked, I said, on the count of three, | 然后我们问,我说, 数到三, |
| 218 | one, two, three, tell me how many lives you want. | 一、二、三,告诉我你想要多少条命 |
| 219 | I go one, two, three, and people go everywhere from one, | 我走一,二,三, 人们从一, |
| 220 | it's a really bored, burned-out guy, | 这是一个真的很无聊, 烧焦的人, |
| 221 | to infinity, yeah. | 到无限,是的。 |
| 222 | But on average, seven. | 但平均来说是7个 |
| 223 | Seven or eight is the over. | 七八即灭. |
| 224 | Seven or eight. | 七八门. |
| 225 | People want eight lives. | 人们想要八条命。 |
| 226 | And I go, well, that just proves our theory | 我走了,好了,那只是证明我们的理论 |
| 227 | there's more than one life in you. | 你的生命不止一个 |
| 228 | If you could have all those lives, wouldn't it be cool? | 如果你可以拥有所有这些生命, 是不是很酷? |
| 229 | And if you have seven lives worth of interest in you, | 如果你对你有七条生命的兴趣 |
| 230 | and you get one life, | 你得到一个生命, |
| 231 | you're going to be 14% of your personhood. | 你会是14%的人格。 |
| 232 | Right now. | 现在 |
| 233 | Oh! | 瓳 |
| 234 | By the time you die. | 你死的时候 |
| 235 | Wait, hold on a second. | 等等 等会 |
| 236 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 237 | Hold on, because I imagine a world | 坚持住,因为我想象一个世界 |
| 238 | where your one lifetime | 在你的一生中 |
| 239 | could have seven different lives in it. | 里面有七个不同的生活 |
| 240 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 241 | Which means where you are right now | 也就是说你现在在哪 |
| 242 | in this particular chapter | 本章 |
| 243 | is just 14% of what you will experience. | 只是你将经历的14%。 |
| 244 | That's also true. | 亦如是说. |
| 245 | Which means you have the opportunity, | 这意味着你有机会 |
| 246 | if you change your mindset, | 如果你改变你的心态, |
| 247 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 248 | to really design the next 14% section, | 要真正设计 接下来的14% 部分, |
| 249 | whether it's from age 71 to 74, Dave, | 无论是71岁到74岁,戴夫 |
| 250 | or I don't know how old you are, Bill, | 或者我不知道你多大了 比尔 |
| 251 | but I'm a little younger. | 但我有点年轻。 |
| 252 | We won't hold that against you. | 我们不会反对你的 |
| 253 | But if you really think about it that way, | 但如果你真的这么想 |
| 254 | that means you could create whatever you wanted | 也就是说你可以创造你想要的一切 |
| 255 | that was meaningful to you. | 这对你很有意义 |
| 256 | Well, and particularly now, I tell my students, | 嗯,特别是现在,我告诉我的学生, |
| 257 | don't you hope five, 10 years from now | 五年,十年以后,你别指望 |
| 258 | you're doing a job that hasn't even been invented yet? | 你的工作还没发明呢? |
| 259 | I mean, do you really want to constrain yourself to, | 我的意思是,你真的想 约束自己, |
| 260 | I'm just going to be this computer scientist, | 我只是要成为一个计算机科学家, |
| 261 | or I'm just going to be this economist, or something? | 还是我要当经济学家? |
| 262 | Because, first of all, jobs are going to change. | 因为,首先,工作会改变。 |
| 263 | We're in the age of AI, | 我们在AI时代, |
| 264 | so everything's going to be different. | 所以一切都会不同 |
| 265 | And you can look at that and be terrified, | 你可以看着它 并害怕, |
| 266 | or you can look at that and go, wow, | 或者你可以看着它走,哇, |
| 267 | there's going to be so many new things that show up. | 会有这么多新的东西出现。 |
| 268 | All I have to do is pay attention | 我只要注意一点 |
| 269 | as these jobs disappear and reappear. | 因为这些工作消失和重新出现。 |
| 270 | When I got out of Stanford long years ago | 很久以前我从斯坦福出来的时候 |
| 271 | when dinosaurs still roamed White Plaza, | 当恐龙还在白色广场漫游时, |
| 272 | you had to learn drafting to be a designer. | 你得学着做设计师 |
| 273 | Drafting on a drafting table with a pencil. | 用铅笔在起草表上起草 |
| 274 | Nobody's done that in 40 years. | 40年里没有人这么做过 |
| 275 | And now I can just do something on my phone | 现在我可以在手机上做点什么 |
| 276 | and print it on a 3D printer. | 并打印在三维打印机上。 |
| 277 | It's amazing. | 不可思议. |
| 278 | And so if you stay in the growth mindset, | 所以如果你保持成长的心态 |
| 279 | if you stay curious, | 如果你继续好奇 |
| 280 | the next 10 or 15 years are going to be amazing | 接下来的10年或15年将是惊人的 |
| 281 | for jobs, for careers, for possibilities. | 工作、事业、可能性 |
| 282 | And get your boat in the water now. | 把你的船放进水里 |
| 283 | Learn some AI, figure out how to, | 学点人工智能 想办法 |
| 284 | I think it's actually going to be a renaissance in creativity | 我觉得这其实是创造力的复兴 |
| 285 | because it'll be possible for everyone | 因为每个人都有可能 |
| 286 | to do a video, to do a drawing, to do anything, | 做一个视频,做一个画, 做任何事情, |
| 287 | to write a song. | 写一首歌。 |
| 288 | This generation feels a little bit despondent. | 这代人感觉有点沮丧. |
| 289 | You know, there's a lot of stuff going on in the news. | 新闻里有很多事情 |
| 290 | And I think like, this will be the first generation | 我认为,这将是第一代 |
| 291 | that doesn't have more than their parents. | 没有什么比他们父母多。 |
| 292 | This will be the first generation that can't afford a home. | 这将是第一代买不起家的人. |
| 293 | This is the first gen, the kids aren't getting married | 这是第一个孩子,孩子不会结婚的 |
| 294 | because they just don't see a future. | 因为他们看不到未来 |
| 295 | And I think the design mindset, | 我认为设计思维 |
| 296 | it's an inherently optimistic mindset. | 这是一个内在的乐观心态。 |
| 297 | So I can't make the design, | 所以我不能做这个设计, |
| 298 | but I can make a better one. | 但我可以做一个更好的。 |
| 299 | You know, I can make a better one than the one I've got. | 你知道,我可以做一个更好的 比我有的。 |
| 300 | Could you speak to somebody in their 20s | 你能和20多岁的人谈谈吗? |
| 301 | who is feeling that sense of discouragement, | 他有一种沮丧的感觉, |
| 302 | which frankly is justified, | 坦率地说,这是合理的, |
| 303 | given some of the factual research | 根据一些事实研究 |
| 304 | about the cost of living and changes that are happening | 生活成本和正在发生的变化 |
| 305 | and the headlines. | 和头条。 |
| 306 | Look, first of all, if you're 20, | 听着 首先 如果你20岁 |
| 307 | be encouraged by the following fact. | 受以下事实的鼓舞。 |
| 308 | Your neocortex, which is the part of your brain | 你的神经质,这是你大脑的一部分 |
| 309 | that allows you to have an executive function | 允许您拥有执行职能 |
| 310 | and actually allows you to have full empathy | 让你能充满同情心 |
| 311 | for other people, isn't formed until 27 or 28, | 对其他人来说, 27岁或28岁才形成 |
| 312 | a little later in men, big surprise there. | 晚点在男人那里,大惊喜在那里。 |
| 313 | So if you're 20, 21, 22, you're not even here yet. | 所以,如果你20,21,22, 你甚至还没有在这里。 |
| 314 | We remind our graduating seniors, you're not broken, | 我们提醒我们的毕业高年级生, 你没有崩溃, |
| 315 | you're 22. | 你22岁了 |
| 316 | Your 22 year old job is not to figure it out | 你22岁的工作不是想明白 |
| 317 | because the you that's ever maybe even gonna have a shot | 因为也许你甚至有机会 |
| 318 | at figuring it out is six or eight years away from you. | 找到答案 离你还有六八年 |
| 319 | So your 20 year old self's job | 所以,你20岁的工作 |
| 320 | is to give your 28 year old self some interesting options. | 给自己一些有趣的选择 |
| 321 | Now I don't mean sit on the couch at mom and dad's house | 我不是说坐在爸爸妈妈家的沙发上 |
| 322 | and wait for something to land in your lap, | 等待的东西 落在你的腿上, |
| 323 | get out there, start living, do things, | 出去,开始生活,做一些事情, |
| 324 | learn your way forward, | 学会前进的道路, |
| 325 | all that stuff we talk about in all our books. | 我们所有的书里都提到的东西 |
| 326 | But if you're 20 something, | 但如果你二十岁 |
| 327 | it's gonna get more interesting, so don't give up yet. | 它会变得更有趣, 所以不要放弃。 |
| 328 | Now externally, the macro situation we're all living in, | 现在外部, 宏观情况 我们都生活在, |
| 329 | I mean the macro situation I was living in in 1976 | 我是说1976年的宏观状况 |
| 330 | when I graduated college is pretty radically different | 当我大学毕业时 情况完全不同 |
| 331 | from what's going on right now 50 years later. | 从现在发生的事情 50年后。 |
| 332 | People are feeling powerless for a good reason | 人们觉得无力是有原因的 |
| 333 | because people with power are hanging onto it | 因为有权力的人都挂在上面 |
| 334 | and exercising it pretty egregiously right now, | 和行使它非常惊人 现在, |
| 335 | personal point of view. | 个人观点。 |
| 336 | That being said, okay, | 这么说,好吧, |
| 337 | there are systems that are bigger than you. | 有些系统比你大 |
| 338 | The question then says, | 问题就说: |
| 339 | do you wanna spend your time working on those systems? | 你想把时间花在那些系统上吗? |
| 340 | Bill's got a son named Ben who's currently working | 比尔有个儿子叫班 他现在在工作 |
| 341 | in Congress, he's gonna go directly after the problem. | 在国会,他会直接去 问题之后。 |
| 342 | I'm not going directly after the problem, | 我不会直接去 问题之后, |
| 343 | I'm writing books about meaning making | 我在写关于制作的书 |
| 344 | for everybody else in the meantime. | 在此期间为其他人服务。 |
| 345 | I hope that leaves the campground | 我希望这能离开营地 |
| 346 | a little better than I found it. | 比我发现的好一点 |
| 347 | So find what you can do within the constraints of reality. | 所以在现实的制约下 找出你能做什么 |
| 348 | Maybe it's different than your parents' generation, | 也许跟你父母那一代不一样 |
| 349 | maybe it's, who cares? | 也许,谁在乎呢? |
| 350 | That was then, this is now. | 那是当时,这是现在。 |
| 351 | What world are you in? | 你在哪个世界? |
| 352 | What is available to you? | 有什么可以给你的? |
| 353 | How can we make the most of what is, | 我们怎样才能尽心尽力 |
| 354 | not complain about what isn't? | 没有抱怨什么不是? |
| 355 | But I get that it's hard, it is hard. | 但我知道这很难,这是很难的。 |
| 356 | It's hard. | 难曰. |
| 357 | And I see this in lots and lots of our students | 我从很多学生中看到这个 |
| 358 | that they're willing, they're very willing to work really. | 他们非常愿意工作 |
| 359 | People say, oh, the Gen Z's don't wanna work hard | 人们说,哦,Gen Z不想工作 |
| 360 | and they wanna be pampered, it's like. | 他们想被贴身,就像。 |
| 361 | Not the ones we know. | 不是我们认识的人 |
| 362 | The ones I know, they'll do a startup, | 我知道的,他们会做一个启动, |
| 363 | they'll work 100 hours a week if they believe in something. | 他们每周工作100小时 如果他们相信什么 |
| 364 | And so, you know, it's, | 所以,你知道,这是, |
| 365 | I'm very optimistic about the generation coming up | 我对这代人的出现很乐观 |
| 366 | and the generation that's already out there. | 和已经存在的一代。 |
| 367 | And I say, well, you know, what can I do? | 我说,你知道,我能做什么? |
| 368 | You know, a lot of people feel like | 你知道,很多人觉得 |
| 369 | they don't even know what they want. | 他们甚至不知道自己想要什么 |
| 370 | But there's this other exercise | 但还有另一个练习 |
| 371 | that you are world famous for called the Odyssey Plan. | 你以奥德赛计划闻名于世 |
| 372 | Can you just walk the listener through a little bit? | 你能跟听众走一段吗? |
| 373 | Cause it can help you see other lives in yourself | 因为它可以帮助你看到 别人的生活自己 |
| 374 | and how to live a meaningful life to lean into. | 如何过上有意义的生活 |
| 375 | So we know you have to have more ideas | 所以我们知道,你必须有更多的想法 |
| 376 | to get your best ideas. | 来得到你最好的主意。 |
| 377 | And if you get stuck on the one idea, | 如果你被困在一个想法上 |
| 378 | you're gonna get stuck on a corner. | 你会被卡在角落。 |
| 379 | So if we're gonna plan the future possibilities, | 所以,如果我们要计划 未来的可能性, |
| 380 | we gotta hear from more than one of you. | 我们要听到不止一个你。 |
| 381 | So three is kind of a magic number | 所以三个是神奇的号码 |
| 382 | because it really gives you some freedom. | 因为它真的给你一些自由。 |
| 383 | And one of them is probably the life you're already in. | 其中之一是你已经过的生活 |
| 384 | The other one is if you can't do that, | 另一个是如果你做不到 |
| 385 | what else would you do? | 你还会怎么做? |
| 386 | And the third one, the wild card, | 第三张,野牌, |
| 387 | if money were no object, you know, | 如果钱不是物品,你知道, |
| 388 | and nobody would laugh at you, what would you do? | 没有人会嘲笑你 你会怎么做? |
| 389 | That's the wild card. | 这是野生卡片。 |
| 390 | Well, maybe I would open the Beanie Baby store | 好吧,也许我会打开 Beanie宝贝店 |
| 391 | or I'd start the button shop, you know, | 或者我会启动按钮店,你知道, |
| 392 | whatever the crazy thing is. | 不管是什么疯狂的事情。 |
| 393 | The reason we ask people to have a crazy idea | 我们要求人们有一个疯狂的想法 |
| 394 | is not because the crazy idea is a good idea. | 不是因为疯狂的想法是一个好主意。 |
| 395 | It's because we need to train you | 因为我们要训练你 |
| 396 | to quiet the internal critic. | 让内部评论家安静下来 |
| 397 | So as soon as you say, well, you know, | 所以,当你说,嗯,你知道, |
| 398 | the 54-year-old woman says, I mean, | 那个54岁的女人说,我的意思是, |
| 399 | I'm thinking about going back to medical school. | 我想回医学院 |
| 400 | I always wanted to do that. | 我一直想这样做。 |
| 401 | I don't think it's too late, | 我不认为它太迟, |
| 402 | but my friends say I'm all crazy. | 但我朋友说我疯了 |
| 403 | What do you think? | 你觉得呢? |
| 404 | So her internal critic is being encouraged | 所以鼓励她内部评论家 |
| 405 | by all of her friends' internal critic going, | 她所有朋友的内部评论家都说 |
| 406 | well, that's crazy, you can't do that. | 这太疯狂了 你不能这么做 |
| 407 | And that's the part of evolution | 这就是进化的一部分 |
| 408 | that keeps you from being eaten by the saber-toothed tiger. | 这样你就不会被剑齿虎吃掉了 |
| 409 | You know, so there's a negative bias | 你知道,所以有一个负面的偏见 |
| 410 | built into your brain evolutionarily lest you be eaten. | 在你的大脑进化 以免你被吃掉。 |
| 411 | So you have to learn how to overcome that critic. | 所以你必须学会如何克服批评者。 |
| 412 | So the Odyssey Plan helps you imagine | 所以奥德赛计划帮助你想象 |
| 413 | there's more than one way you can live | 有不止一种方法可以生存 |
| 414 | and it helps train you to quiet your internal critic | 帮助你平息内部的批评 |
| 415 | so you get the rest of your ideas back. | 所以,你得到剩下的想法回来。 |
| 416 | So I wanna make sure that you really got that. | 所以,我想确保 你真的得到了这一点。 |
| 417 | So the way that you help yourself imagine | 所以,你帮助自己的方式 |
| 418 | different possibilities in your life | 你生活中的各种可能性 |
| 419 | is through the Odyssey Planning, | 通过奥德赛计划, |
| 420 | you ask yourself three questions. | 你问自己三个问题 |
| 421 | What happens in my life if I change absolutely nothing? | 如果我一无所有 会发生什么? |
| 422 | Where am I for five years from now? | 五年后,我在哪里? |
| 423 | And assuming it goes well. | 假设事情顺利 |
| 424 | Yeah, well, I thank you for that. | 是啊,我谢谢你。 |
| 425 | Let's just assume it goes well. | 让我们假设它进行得很好。 |
| 426 | Let's assume it goes well. | 假设事情进展顺利 |
| 427 | What happens in five years? | 五年后会发生什么? |
| 428 | What does my life look like? | 我的生活是什么样子? |
| 429 | Who am I? | 我是谁? |
| 430 | Okay, second one is all of this disappears. | 好吧,第二个是这一切消失。 |
| 431 | Yep, can't do that. | 是的,不能这样做。 |
| 432 | Can't do that, but I gotta pay my bills. | 我不能这么做,但我必须支付我的账单。 |
| 433 | Plan B. | B计划 |
| 434 | Gotta have a Plan B. | 必须有一个B计划。 |
| 435 | Five years, what am I doing? | 5年了,我这是干什么? |
| 436 | What am I doing? | 我在干吗? |
| 437 | And the third is money's no object. | 第三是钱不是东西 |
| 438 | Yep, whatever you want. | 对,随便你 |
| 439 | Whatever you want. | 随其所欲. |
| 440 | Nobody's gonna laugh. | 没有人会笑。 |
| 441 | It's gonna work out. | 终能成. |
| 442 | What are you gonna do? | 你打算怎么办? |
| 443 | If you do those three, and we've done this with, | 如果你做了这3个, 而我们已经做了这一点, |
| 444 | I mean, tens of thousands of people, | 我的意思是,数万人, |
| 445 | including people like, I'm not doing this. | 包括这样的人 我不会这么做的 |
| 446 | And we give them 12 minutes. | 我们给他们12分钟 |
| 447 | 12 minutes? | 12分钟? |
| 448 | 12 minutes to do, sometimes 15. | 还有12分钟,有时15分钟 |
| 449 | And absolutely, I mean, 99.7% of the people | 绝对,我是说,99.7%的人 |
| 450 | do it just fine. | 做它只是罚款。 |
| 451 | I'm standing behind this 57-year-old chiropractor. | 我站在这个57岁的按摩师后面 |
| 452 | We had 600 people in the room. | 我们房间有600人 |
| 453 | This one guy's sitting back from the room, | 这个人坐在房间里 |
| 454 | just looking at the paper going, hmm. | 只是看着报纸走,嗯。 |
| 455 | So I come up to him and say, um, so how's it going? | 于是我走到他面前说,嗯,怎么样? |
| 456 | Fine. | 还好 |
| 457 | I go, you're just gonna sit this one out? | 我走了,你就坐着吗? |
| 458 | He goes, no, no, I'm doing it. | 他去,不,不,我做到这一点。 |
| 459 | I go, well, you're not doing much. | 我走了,好了,你没有做太多。 |
| 460 | You gotta pick up the pen. | 你得拿起笔。 |
| 461 | He goes, yeah, I'm a little stuck. | 他走了,是的,我有点卡住了。 |
| 462 | I go, well, what do you do? | 我走了,你怎么办? |
| 463 | I'm a chiropractor. | 我是脊椎按摩师 |
| 464 | Okay, great. | 好吧,伟大的。 |
| 465 | You like it? | 你喜欢吗? |
| 466 | I like it a lot. | 我很喜欢 |
| 467 | How long have you been doing that? | 你这样做多久了? |
| 468 | 27 years, okay? | 27年,好吗? |
| 469 | You wanna die doing that? | 你想死吗? |
| 470 | I said, what? | 我说什么? |
| 471 | I said, by the time you die, | 我说,当你死的时候, |
| 472 | do you wanna still be doing this? | 你还想这么做吗? |
| 473 | He kinda goes, well, I don't think so. | 他有点走,嗯,我不这么认为。 |
| 474 | I said, oh, then at some point, | 我说,哦,然后在某些时候, |
| 475 | you're gonna do something else. | 你会做别的事 |
| 476 | He goes, well, I guess so. | 他走了,我想是这样。 |
| 477 | I go, and what might that be? | 我去,那会是什么? |
| 478 | He goes, oh, I guess I am gonna do something else, aren't I? | 他走了,哦, 我想我会做别的事,不是吗? |
| 479 | I said, yes, you are. | 我说,是的,你是。 |
| 480 | Write that down. | 写下来 |
| 481 | He goes, oh, okay. | 他去,哦,没关系。 |
| 482 | I mean, he had it in him. | 我的意思是,他有它在他体内。 |
| 483 | He just had to get over himself. | 他只好忘记自己 |
| 484 | I love this, and I'm gonna encourage you | 我喜欢这个,我会鼓励你 |
| 485 | as you're listening, unless you're driving a car, | 当你在听, 除非你在开车, |
| 486 | do this right now. | 现在就这么做 |
| 487 | Think about it. | 考虑一下 |
| 488 | If nothing changes, it goes well. | 若无变化则顺顺. |
| 489 | What does life look like five years? | 生活是什么样子的五年? |
| 490 | If everything disappears and you gotta go to plan B, | 如果一切消失 你必须去B计划, |
| 491 | what does life look like in five years, | 生活是什么样子 五年, |
| 492 | and what are you doing? | 你们在干什么? |
| 493 | What's the something else? | 还有什么? |
| 494 | And what is the crazy wild thing | 疯狂的野性是什么 |
| 495 | that you don't need money and nobody's gonna laugh at you? | 你不需要钱 没人会嘲笑你? |
| 496 | What is that then? | 这是什么? |
| 497 | They'll say, that's cool. | 他们会说,这很酷。 |
| 498 | The other thing, classes and lectures, | 另一件事,课程和讲座, |
| 499 | it's a series of these little workshop things | 这是一系列的小作坊 |
| 500 | and design exercises. | 和设计练习。 |
| 501 | So then people get in threes, | 所以,然后人们得到三, |
| 502 | and they read each other. | 他们互相阅读。 |
| 503 | I read my Odyssey Plan to the other people, | 我读了我的奥德赛计划 其他人, |
| 504 | and we teach them to listen very generatively. | 我们教他们从小就听 |
| 505 | And in tens and tens of thousands of these, | 数以万计, |
| 506 | the last question I ask when I'm debriefing the class, | 我最后问的问题 当我向课堂汇报, |
| 507 | I say, you know, those wild card plans | 我说,你知道的,那些疯狂的牌计划 |
| 508 | that you heard from everybody in the class | 你听到班上所有人的声音 |
| 509 | of the listeners, how many of you think | 你们中有多少人, |
| 510 | that person could actually do the wild card? | 那个人真的可以做野生卡片? |
| 511 | It's not nearly as crazy as they think. | 没有他们想象的那么疯狂 |
| 512 | 100%. | 百分百的 百分百的 百分百的 |
| 513 | It's not as crazy as you think. | 没那么疯狂 |
| 514 | And again, we're not trying to get people | 再说一遍,我们不是想找人 |
| 515 | to quit their jobs and join the circus. | 辞去工作,加入马戏团。 |
| 516 | It's just that it's proof there's more life in you | 只是证明你还有更多的生命 |
| 517 | than you think. | 比你想的还要多 |
| 518 | There's more possibilities than you think | 比你想象的还可能 |
| 519 | when you think in threes, not binaries or ones. | 当你三思而后行,而不是二进制或二进制。 |
| 520 | You know, you light up like the sicko sign in Boston | 你知道,你点亮 像生病的标志在波士顿 |
| 521 | when you talk about this. | 当你谈论这个。 |
| 522 | What is your wild card the last time you did this? | 你上次这么做时的卡是什么? |
| 523 | Artist. | 艺术家。 |
| 524 | Like a painter? | 像画家一样? |
| 525 | I am a painter. | 我是个画家。 |
| 526 | I have been a painter. | 我是一个画家。 |
| 527 | So I went off to Stanford, | 所以我去斯坦福大学 |
| 528 | which was even back when I did it, | 这甚至回到 当我这样做, |
| 529 | it was kind of expensive. | 有点贵 |
| 530 | And I wanted to be an art major. | 我想成为艺术专业 |
| 531 | And my dad was a pretty practical guy. | 我爸爸是个很实际的人 |
| 532 | And he said, look, if you want to be an art major, | 他说 如果你想成为艺术专业 |
| 533 | then you come back and go to UMass. | 然后你回来,去乌马斯。 |
| 534 | You know, UMass, what's the thing? | 你知道,乌马斯,是什么事情? |
| 535 | UMass, I don't know, it's $300 a year or something. | 乌马斯,我不知道, 这是每年300美元什么的。 |
| 536 | So I'm not paying for Stanford. | 所以我不付钱给斯坦福。 |
| 537 | But I found this design thing and that was pretty cool. | 但我发现这个设计的东西 很酷。 |
| 538 | Was that, because the art design major | 那是因为艺术设计专业 |
| 539 | was a combination of art, engineering and psychology. | 是艺术、工程和心理学的结合 |
| 540 | But I did make a promise to that 18 year old kid | 但我对那个18岁的孩子做了承诺 |
| 541 | that someday I'd be an artist. | 有一天我会成为一个艺术家。 |
| 542 | And so I have a studio, I have a digital studio for music | 所以我有一个录音室,我有一个数字录音室的音乐 |
| 543 | and one for painting, and painting is my thing. | 画画是我的事 |
| 544 | And when I'm in the studio painting, that is flow. | 当我在工作室的画里,这就是流动。 |
| 545 | That is a constant state of absolute flow. | 这是绝对流动的恒定状态。 |
| 546 | I don't know if I'm any good, I don't care. | 我不知道我是不是好, 我不在乎。 |
| 547 | Robert Henry is a famous painting school in New York | 罗伯特·亨利是纽约著名的绘画学校 |
| 548 | in the 1920s. | 在20世纪20年代。 |
| 549 | His phrase was, the goal isn't to make art, | 他的话是,目的不是创造艺术, |
| 550 | the goal is to be in that marvelous state of mind | 目标就是进入如此美妙的思维状态 |
| 551 | that makes art inevitable. | 艺术是不可避免的 |
| 552 | Do you know that's the mission of how we do work here? | 你知道这就是我们如何工作的任务吗? |
| 553 | That quote. | 此引经. |
| 554 | I cool. | 我冷静。 |
| 555 | I can tell. | 我看得出来 |
| 556 | So that's on the door of my studio. | 在我的工作室门口 |
| 557 | And to be in that marvelous state of mind, | 进入如此美妙的思维状态 |
| 558 | yeah, it's a very special place. | 是的,这是一个非常特别的地方。 |
| 559 | And so I promised myself that that will be my, | 所以我答应自己,那将是我的, |
| 560 | that is my wild card and that is coming up. | 这是我的狂野名片 即将来临 |
| 561 | Dave, what's yours? | 戴夫,你怎么样? |
| 562 | Well, there are a bunch of them. | 嗯,有一堆他们。 |
| 563 | One probably came very close to becoming an actor. | 一个可能接近成为一名演员。 |
| 564 | But there's a particular version of performance art | 但有一个特殊的表演艺术版本 |
| 565 | that I've long thought would be really fun to try, | 我一直以为尝试会很有趣 |
| 566 | which is to be a waiter in an extremely elite restaurant. | 在超级精英餐厅当服务员 |
| 567 | Really? | 真的吗? |
| 568 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 569 | Which I think is absolutely performance art. | 我觉得这绝对是表演艺术 |
| 570 | I mean- | 我是说... |
| 571 | This is the first time I've ever heard this. | 这是我第一次听到这个 |
| 572 | So tell me more. | 告诉我更多。 |
| 573 | How to read the room. | 如何是诵室. |
| 574 | I mean, so, you know, that people are coming in, | 我的意思是,所以,你知道, 人们进来, |
| 575 | their expectations are incredibly high | 他们的期望非常高 |
| 576 | and this couple's having an argument | 这对夫妇在吵架 |
| 577 | and that, you know, family is celebrating | 家人在庆祝 |
| 578 | the kids' graduation and can you read the room? | 孩子们的毕业典礼 你能读一下房间吗? |
| 579 | Can you maximize this incredible experience? | 你能把这种不可思议的经历最大化吗? |
| 580 | Cause you go to a fine dining experience | 因为你去一个很好的晚餐体验 |
| 581 | for a particular kind of celebration | 某种庆祝 |
| 582 | or a particular kind of, you know, outing | 或一种特定的,你知道的,外出 |
| 583 | and the right wait service catalyzes it beautifully. | 而正确的等待服务 催化它美丽。 |
| 584 | The wrong wait service wrecks it. | 错误的等待服务毁了它。 |
| 585 | And can I deliver the improv performance | 我能表演即兴表演吗? |
| 586 | that has nine different stages | 这有九个不同的阶段 |
| 587 | at the same time called tables, | 同时叫桌子, |
| 588 | playing nine different parts, | 演奏九个不同部分, |
| 589 | having every one of those people | 拥有所有这些人 |
| 590 | have an amazing experience in real time. | 有惊人的实时经验。 |
| 591 | Can I pull that off? | 我可以做到这一点吗? |
| 592 | I mean, running a really, really amazing restaurant | 我的意思是,经营一个真正, 非常惊人的餐厅 |
| 593 | is a really, really hard thing. | 是一个非常非常难的事情。 |
| 594 | It's really hard. | 这真的很难。 |
| 595 | That's definitely not on my fantasy. | 这绝对不是我的幻想。 |
| 596 | My fantasy- | 我的幻想... |
| 597 | I don't want to be in the kitchen. | 我不想去厨房 |
| 598 | It's too scary. | 这太可怕了。 |
| 599 | Mine for sure is I want to write a fantasy trilogy. | 我当然想写一部幻想三部曲 |
| 600 | Oh, okay. | 哦,还好。 |
| 601 | Yes, all about angels that are among us | 是的,所有关于天使 在我们中间 |
| 602 | and the theme of are you born- | 而主题是你诞生... |
| 603 | How might we imagine a world | 我们如何想象一个世界 |
| 604 | where Mel is a fantasy trilogy writer? | Mel是个幻想三部曲作家吗? |
| 605 | Right, are you born good or bad? | 对,你是天生好还是坏? |
| 606 | And I have this whole, | 我有一个完整的, |
| 607 | I've been thinking about it for 10 years | 我已经想了十年了 |
| 608 | and I'm going to do it. | 我会做到这一点。 |
| 609 | I'm going to do it. | 师便打. |
| 610 | Like, but it's always in there | 喜欢,但它总是在那里 |
| 611 | and I love that you shared that. | 我喜欢你分享的 |
| 612 | And for you listening or watching, | 为你聆听或观察, |
| 613 | I want you to share your wild card | 我要你分享你的野生卡片 |
| 614 | either with us or put it in the review | 要么和我们一起,要么把它放到审查中 |
| 615 | or the comment of this show, | 或本节目的评论, |
| 616 | or when you share this episode | 或者当你分享此集时 |
| 617 | with somebody that you care about, | 和一个你关心的人 |
| 618 | be a little cryptic and say, | 有点隐秘,说: |
| 619 | my wild card is this | 我的名片就是这个 |
| 620 | and you'll know exactly what I mean | 你会明白我的意思的 |
| 621 | when you listen to this | 当你听这个 |
| 622 | and then I want you to tell me yours. | 然后我要你告诉我 你的。 |
| 623 | You know, Mel, Bill and I, | 你知道,梅尔,比尔和我, |
| 624 | we talk about the stuff we've been doing for a long time. | 我们聊了很久了 |
| 625 | We often say at the end of the day, | 我们经常说,最后, |
| 626 | what we're really doing, | 我们在做什么, |
| 627 | we're just giving people permission to live their lives. | 我们只是允许人们生活 |
| 628 | It's really just give, | 它真的只是给, |
| 629 | yes, you can, you do know how to do this. | 是的,你可以,你知道如何做到这一点。 |
| 630 | You have it in you. | 你心里有这个 |
| 631 | You may not have it in you to be an Olympian, | 你可能没有成为奥林匹亚人 |
| 632 | but you have it in you to be something. | 但你有它 让你的东西。 |
| 633 | Because right after the Odyssey plans comes prototyping, | 因为在奥德赛计划完成之后 |
| 634 | what on your plan do you want to learn about? | 你想学习什么? |
| 635 | And then they prototype. | 然后他们原型。 |
| 636 | That's the next step. | 这是下一步。 |
| 637 | They come back to the next class and they go, | 他们回到下一班,他们走了, |
| 638 | you know, | 你知道吗? |
| 639 | did you know you can actually make a living in the circus? | 你知道你可以在马戏团里谋生吗? |
| 640 | I had one student who was a gymnast at Stanford | 我有个学生是斯坦福的体操运动员 |
| 641 | and she wanted to go to medical school. | 她想上医学院 |
| 642 | Her parents wanted to go to medical school. | 她的父母想上医学院。 |
| 643 | She cut a deal. | 她做了个交易 |
| 644 | Can I do something before I go to medical school? | 我上医学院之前能做些什么吗? |
| 645 | She's now been in Cirque du Soleil in China | 她现在在中国的太阳剧场 |
| 646 | and she is a circus clown, | 她是一个马戏团小丑, |
| 647 | which was on her Odyssey plan and just having a great time. | 这是她的奥德赛计划, 只是有一个伟大的时间。 |
| 648 | But people have a hard time even imagining something | 但人们很难想象 |
| 649 | so wild it's not possible. | 所以野性是不可能的。 |
| 650 | And when they talk about plan one, it's kind of like, | 当他们谈论计划一, 它有点像, |
| 651 | yeah, well, so I'm going to just keep being an accountant. | 所以我要继续当会计 |
| 652 | I'm going to do this thing. | 我要做这个 |
| 653 | And, you know, I'm pretty good at it and da da da. | 而且,你知道,我很擅长它和达达达。 |
| 654 | But when they talk about their wild card, they're like, | 但当他们谈论他们的野生卡, 他们喜欢, |
| 655 | you know, I really love diving and underwater photography. | 我真的很喜欢潜水和水下摄影 |
| 656 | And I'm wondering if I could be a dive instructor | 我想知道我能不能当个潜水教练 |
| 657 | who does photography, maybe for National Geographic. | 谁做摄影,也许为国家地理。 |
| 658 | And I said, well, I happen to know a guy | 我说,我碰巧认识一个人 |
| 659 | who started a company building underwater cameras, | 他创办了一个公司 建造水下摄像头, |
| 660 | would you like to have a prototype interview? | 你想接受原型采访吗? |
| 661 | And they're like, really? | 他们就像,真的吗? |
| 662 | I go, yeah. | 我会去,是的。 |
| 663 | When you know that you don't know what you're doing, | 当知无量众生. |
| 664 | right, you have to be competent at your incompetence. | 好吧,你必须胜任你的无能。 |
| 665 | You have to be good at knowing | 你必须要知道 |
| 666 | when you don't know what you're doing | 当你不知道自己在做什么 |
| 667 | called the future I haven't figured out yet. | 将未来称为我还没想通 |
| 668 | So you make a move, then learn something, | 所以你做了一个动作,然后学习一些东西, |
| 669 | make a move, learn something, then go back. | 行动,学习一些东西,然后回去。 |
| 670 | So keep making moves until you finally | 所以,继续前进,直到你终于 |
| 671 | iterate your way forward through prototyping. | 通过原型的造型来改变前进的方向。 |
| 672 | That's what we teach. | 这就是我们教的。 |
| 673 | Life is a series of incremental prototypes. | 生活是一系列递增原型. |
| 674 | You find your way by living into your life. | 你通过生活找到出路 |
| 675 | You build your way forward, we keep saying. | 我们一直说,你走在前面 |
| 676 | There is no knowing. | 没有人知道。 |
| 677 | There is only doing, learning, and growing. | 只有做事、学习和成长 |
| 678 | So I know I'm gonna get a ton of questions about this. | 所以,我知道我会得到一个吨的问题 关于这一点。 |
| 679 | Can you guys give a couple examples | 你们能不能举几个例子? |
| 680 | of what actually a prototype looks like? | 原型是什么样子的? |
| 681 | Clowning, clowning's actually a thing. | 咳嗽,小丑其实是一回事。 |
| 682 | Is it the Shriners? | 是施瑞纳夫妇吗? |
| 683 | There's some outfit where they train the members | 有一套训练会员的服装 |
| 684 | and they do clowning in hospitals to visit kids. | 他们在医院里开玩笑去看孩子 |
| 685 | Oh, so you can probably call the local hospitals | 哦,所以你可以打电话 当地医院 |
| 686 | and does anybody do clowning with the children? | 有人和孩子们开玩笑吗? |
| 687 | Oh great, do they have a training for that? | 太好了,他们有训练吗? |
| 688 | So you could go, trust me, there's somebody | 所以你可以去, 相信我,有个人 |
| 689 | who will train you to be a clown, | 谁会训练你成为一个小丑, |
| 690 | to be a little bit of clowning, | 成为一点点的小丑, |
| 691 | that you could go into the children's ward | 你可以去儿童病房 |
| 692 | and try cheering some, maybe just ride along with them, | 并尝试欢呼一些, 也许只是骑着他们, |
| 693 | watch them, I mean, there are ways | 你看他们,我的意思是,有办法 |
| 694 | to get at the thing that you think you're thinking about. | 得到的东西,你认为 你在思考。 |
| 695 | So you're a 20-something, | 所以,你是一个20多, |
| 696 | you see your friends living in Montana, | 你看到你的朋友住在蒙大拿州, |
| 697 | should I live in New York, should I go to Montana, | 如果我住在纽约, 如果我去蒙大拿州, |
| 698 | should I go into iBanking, should I be a ski bomb? | 我应该进入iBanking, 我应该是一个滑雪炸弹? |
| 699 | I don't know what to do with my, you're 28, | 我不知道该怎么处理我,你28岁, |
| 700 | what's an example of a prototype? | 原型的典范是什么? |
| 701 | Here's another one, a stay-at-home mom, | 还有一个,一个留在家里的妈妈, |
| 702 | the kids are gone, now it's my turn, what am I doing? | 现在轮到我了,我在做什么? |
| 703 | Am I going back to nursing school, | 我要回护士学校吗? |
| 704 | am I finishing my degree, like you... | 我完成我的学位,像你一样... |
| 705 | Am I writing that novel that I'm thinking about? | 我在写我想的小说吗? |
| 706 | What does that mean in terms of just a couple | 这是什么意思 仅仅一对夫妇 |
| 707 | specific things that you've seen people do | 具体的事情,你见过的人做 |
| 708 | to give the person listening an idea? | 给别人听一个想法? |
| 709 | So I'm sitting with the 57-year-old, | 所以,我坐57岁, |
| 710 | suddenly empty-nested mom who left a couple of things | 忽然空荡荡的妈妈 留下了几样东西 |
| 711 | behind, doesn't know what to do, great. | 后面,不知道该怎么办,太好了。 |
| 712 | So let's quickly come up with your list of things | 所以,让我们迅速 拿出你的列表 |
| 713 | that might be at all interesting. | 这也许很有趣。 |
| 714 | Oh yeah, I'm thinking about being a ski bum, | 哦,是的,我想成为一个滑雪的流浪汉, |
| 715 | I'm thinking about going back to medical school, | 我想回医学院 |
| 716 | actually talked to a 54-year-old about that, | 其实跟一个54岁的小孩谈过了 |
| 717 | and I'm thinking about being a novelist, okay, fine. | 我想成为一个小说家,好吧,好吧。 |
| 718 | Now, maybe I should, oh, I'm gonna go back | 现在,也许我应该, 哦,我要回去了 |
| 719 | and get a master's degree in creative writing | 并获得创作写作硕士学位 |
| 720 | and spend three years and $30,000 and then write one blog | 花了三年和三万美元 然后写一个博客 |
| 721 | and I didn't like it that much. | 我不太喜欢 |
| 722 | Terrible idea, that's jumping way off the cliff. | 可怕的想法,这是跳出悬崖。 |
| 723 | So the prototype I do is say, talk to people, try stuff. | 所以我做的原型是说,与人交谈,尝试一些东西。 |
| 724 | So go out and have a bunch of narrative conversations | 出去说几句话 |
| 725 | now with, oh, you're a novelist and how much do you make | 现在,哦,你是一个小说家 你赚了多少 |
| 726 | and what school did you go to? | 你上哪所学校? |
| 727 | Those are transactional conversations, | 这些是交易谈话, |
| 728 | not narrative conversations, like what's it like | 不是叙事对话,像是什么样子 |
| 729 | to be you and what do you enjoy and what do you not enjoy | 成为你,享受什么,不享受什么 |
| 730 | and tell me all about that. | 并告诉我这一切。 |
| 731 | And I have these narrative conversations with people | 我和别人有这些叙事谈话 |
| 732 | in the world I'm thinking about being in, | 在世界上,我想着加入, |
| 733 | which is what Dan Gilbert at Harvard, not a bed school, | 这就是哈佛大学的丹·吉尔伯特 而不是一所病床学校 |
| 734 | would say is surrogation, not simulation. | 可以说是代孕 不是模拟 |
| 735 | Quit reading about it, go talk to people about it | 别再读了,去跟别人说 |
| 736 | because you're a person and when you encounter a person | 因为你是一个人 当你遇到一个人 |
| 737 | who tells that story, that story becomes real, | 谁讲的故事, 那故事变得真实, |
| 738 | you'll actually learn more from persons in the world | 你会从世界上学到更多的东西 |
| 739 | you're thinking about than reading about it. | 你考虑的不是读它。 |
| 740 | You'll feel something too. | 你也会有感觉的 |
| 741 | You'll feel something, you'll experience something | 你会感觉到什么,你会经历什么 |
| 742 | and then maybe some of them can get to a ride along | 也许他们中有些人可以搭便车 |
| 743 | and a visit and you can do some experimentation, try stuff, | 和参观 你可以做一些实验,尝试的东西, |
| 744 | long before you overcommit and then eventually | 在你过度承诺之前 最终 |
| 745 | after enough iterations, you'll make a better decision. | 经过足够的重复,你会做出更好的决定。 |
| 746 | You know, it's interesting because I want to build on this | 你知道,这很有趣,因为我想 以此为基础 |
| 747 | because so many people probably say to you, | 因为有这么多人可能会说, |
| 748 | well, I have no idea. | 好吧,我不知道,我还不知道。 |
| 749 | I have no idea what I want to do and I... | 我不知道我想做什么,我... |
| 750 | That's almost never true. | 这几乎从来没有。 |
| 751 | I agree with you and if you're saying that right now, | 我同意你的观点 如果你现在这么说 |
| 752 | like, I don't know what my life's about, | 喜欢,我不知道 我的生活是什么, |
| 753 | I don't know what I like, I love this 14% thing | 我不知道我喜欢什么 我喜欢这14%的东西 |
| 754 | and this idea and the invitation you gave us | 这个想法和你给我们的邀请 |
| 755 | to step into a time machine accelerator thingy | 进入时间机器加速器 |
| 756 | and the average person says, I've imagined eight lives. | 普通人说 我想象了八条命 |
| 757 | So you're in one of them. | 所以,你在一个其中。 |
| 758 | You've got another seven. | 又得七门. |
| 759 | What are the other seven lives you would imagine | 你想象的另外七条生命是什么? |
| 760 | in the fantasy of your mind? | 在你的梦想中? |
| 761 | And those are the things to then lean into | 这些是需要倾斜的 |
| 762 | and get curious about, correct? | 然后好奇,对不对? |
| 763 | I've always wanted to be a dive instructor. | 我一直想当潜水教练 |
| 764 | I love diving but I don't do enough of it. | 我喜欢潜水 但我做得不够 |
| 765 | I always wanted to be a photographer | 我一直想当摄影师 |
| 766 | but you can protect any of these things | 但你可以保护这些东西 |
| 767 | and finally, for instance, I want to have a podcast. | 最后,例如,我想有一个播客。 |
| 768 | Okay, before you jump into a podcast, | 好吧,在你跳进播客之前, |
| 769 | try writing a 2,000 word essay every day for five days. | 每天写一篇两千字的论文 5天 |
| 770 | See how that feels. | 看看这感觉 |
| 771 | Oh, that was really hard. | 哦,那真的很难。 |
| 772 | It was really lonely. | 它真的很孤独。 |
| 773 | Dave hates writing because it's lonely. | 戴夫讨厌写作,因为它很孤独. |
| 774 | I'm the introvert, he's the extrovert. | 我是内向者,他是外向者. |
| 775 | I love sitting in a room talking to myself all day long. | 我喜欢整天坐在房间里自言自语 |
| 776 | It's wonderful and he can't stand it. | 这是美妙的,他无法忍受。 |
| 777 | So try the trying stuff and the talking to people. | 尝试尝试的东西 和人们交谈。 |
| 778 | If you talk to writers, they'll say writing is very lonely. | 如果你和作家交谈,他们会说写作是非常孤独的. |
| 779 | If you can't handle that, | 如果你无法应付 |
| 780 | it's not going to be a good thing for you | 对你不好 |
| 781 | and you wouldn't know that | 你也不会知道 |
| 782 | unless you talk to somebody who does it. | 除非你跟凶手说话 |
| 783 | So you can have these little, it's almost like time travel. | 所以,你可以拥有这些小, 这几乎就像时间旅行。 |
| 784 | You can have a little experience of talking to somebody | 你可以有一点跟别人说话的经验 |
| 785 | who's the person you think you might want to be. | 谁是你想成为的人。 |
| 786 | They're already 10 years down the road doing it | 他们已经过了十年了 |
| 787 | and that experience, that conversation | 经历 谈话 |
| 788 | is so much more powerful than, | 威力远比... |
| 789 | oh, I'm going to look up on Google | 哦,我要抬头看谷歌 |
| 790 | how many writing hacks are there. | 有多少写黑客在那里。 |
| 791 | When did the five most famous writers write? | 五个最著名的作家是什么时候写的? |
| 792 | They wrote in the morning, they wrote in the afternoon. | 他们早上写,下午写。 |
| 793 | There's no patterns in that stuff. | 这东西没有规律 |
| 794 | So you can prototype anything | 所以,你可以原型任何东西 |
| 795 | and the lack of curiosity isn't really true. | 和缺乏好奇心不是真的。 |
| 796 | I have no ideas. | иぃ笵 |
| 797 | You really have no ideas. | 你真的没有想法。 |
| 798 | Okay, what was the last show you watched | 好吧,你最后一次看的节目是什么? |
| 799 | that you thought was interesting? | 你觉得有趣吗? |
| 800 | Pick something simple. | 选点简单的 |
| 801 | We're not talking about the thing you'll do | 我们不是在谈论你会做的事 |
| 802 | for the rest of your life. | 一辈子 |
| 803 | We're talking about what do you want to do next week? | 我们在谈论你下周想做什么? |
| 804 | So as all of this opens up for somebody | 所以当这一切打开 某人 |
| 805 | and they have this sense | 他们有这种感觉 |
| 806 | of what might create more meaning, right? | 可能创造更多意义,对不对? |
| 807 | And I want to get curious, I want to prototype. | 我想好奇,我想原型。 |
| 808 | The fear of failure | 对失败的恐惧 |
| 809 | and the fear of what other people are going to think | 恐惧别人会怎么想 |
| 810 | probably comes in like a sledgehammer. | 可能会像大锤一样进来 |
| 811 | Oh, it's a huge sledgehammer. | 哦,这是一个巨大的大锤。 |
| 812 | What do you say to people in your classes | 你对班上的人怎么说? |
| 813 | when they get this moment of clarity | 当他们得到这个清晰的时刻 |
| 814 | and then it's like, hmm? | 然后它就像,嗯吗? |
| 815 | Start really small. | 开始非常小。 |
| 816 | I mean, cut yourself some slack for God's sake. | 看在上帝的份上,你少管闲事 |
| 817 | I mean, we talk about failure immunity | 我的意思是,我们谈论失败豁免 |
| 818 | because the purpose of a prototype | 因为原型机的目的 |
| 819 | is to learn something, not to succeed. | 是学东西,而不是成功。 |
| 820 | We don't prototype to make sure, oh, will it work? | 我们不原型 确保,哦,它会起作用吗? |
| 821 | No, just what do I need to know more about? | 不,只是我需要知道更多吗? |
| 822 | I'm going to go ride along | 我要去骑车了 |
| 823 | and be an auditor of the children's clowns at the hospital. | 做医院儿童小丑的审计员 |
| 824 | And I might say the wrong thing. | 我可能会说错话 |
| 825 | I mean, did I blow it? | 我的意思是,我吹了吗? |
| 826 | No, no, no, I'm just trying to learn what it's like here. | 不,不,不,我只是想 学习它是什么样子的。 |
| 827 | So first of all, have your prototypes not bet the farm. | 所以,首先,有你的原型 不赌农场。 |
| 828 | Like maybe what I'll do is I'll go to Chez Panisse in Berkeley, | 就像我要去伯克利的切斯帕尼斯 |
| 829 | one of the most expensive restaurants in all of California. | 是全加州最贵的餐馆之一 |
| 830 | Because I know a friend who's really close friends | 因为我认识一个朋友 谁真的亲密的朋友 |
| 831 | with Alice Waters and she could probably get me in | 和爱丽丝·沃特斯在一起 她也许可以让我进去 |
| 832 | as the waiter. | 当侍者. |
| 833 | So my first night as a waiter | 所以我第一个当服务员的夜晚 |
| 834 | is in front of Alice Waters and Chez Panisse. | 在爱丽丝·沃特斯和切斯·帕尼斯面前 |
| 835 | That is not a prototype, that's a performance. | 这不是原型,那是表演 |
| 836 | So cut yourself some slack and I'm likely to fail. | 所以,让你自己放松一些 我可能会失败。 |
| 837 | I probably wouldn't even want to serve the bread there. | 我可能甚至不想在那里卖面包。 |
| 838 | Yeah, so make it easy, make it small | 是啊,所以简单点,小一点 |
| 839 | where almost nothing is at stake, | 几乎没有什么关系, |
| 840 | of which there are plenty of opportunities. | 其中有很多机会。 |
| 841 | Give yourself a break, make it interesting, make it fun, | 让你自己休息一下,让它有趣,让它有趣, |
| 842 | cut it down small, don't shoot too high. | 切小一点,不要太高 |
| 843 | и痷蔼砍р barㄓ | |
| 844 | Set the bar low and clear it. | 把栏杆放低一点 清理干净 |
| 845 | I mean, you've heard about this. | 我的意思是,你听说过这一点。 |
| 846 | This is the whole psychology behavior change. | 这是整个心理学行为的变化。 |
| 847 | You're not going to change if you make something so big. | 如果你做了这么大的事 你不会改变的 |
| 848 | This is the new year and people have made their resolutions. | 今年是新的一年,人民已经作出了决议。 |
| 849 | I'm going to run a marathon this year. | 今年我要跑马拉松 |
| 850 | It's like, no, probably unless you break that | 这就像,没有,也许 除非你打破 |
| 851 | into very, very small steps, it's not going to happen. | 进入非常,非常小的步骤, 它不会发生。 |
| 852 | And so we really go for super simple things. | 所以,我们真的去 超简单的事情。 |
| 853 | And then that builds up your confidence too. | 那样你的信心也会增强 |
| 854 | If you try something and you dress in prototypes, | 如果你尝试一些东西 穿在原型, |
| 855 | you learn some stuff, you get a little more confident. | 你学了一些东西, 你得到一点点自信。 |
| 856 | Eventually, when you flip into this designer's mindset, | 最终,当你转向 这个设计者的心态, |
| 857 | you realize, oh, I can prototype anything. | 你知道,哦,我可以原型任何东西。 |
| 858 | There's really no failure here. | 这里真的没有失败 |
| 859 | Failure is just a rule I made up in my head. | 失败只是我在脑子里编的规矩 |
| 860 | And once I get rid of that rule, I'm much more free. | 一旦我摆脱了这个规则, 我就会更加自由。 |
| 861 | But yeah, fear drives a lot of people to not try. | 但是,是的,恐惧驱使很多人不去尝试。 |
| 862 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 863 | Is it ever too late? | 是不是太迟了? |
| 864 | I think there's a big fear that it's too late. | 我觉得现在太迟了 |
| 865 | I've blown it too much. | 我已经搞砸了太多。 |
| 866 | No, it's never too late. | 不,它永远不会太晚。 |
| 867 | I mean, coming out of a talk, a 54-year-old woman | 一个54岁的女人 |
| 868 | has asked me about, am I crazy to go to medical school? | 问我,我疯了去医学院吗? |
| 869 | And I said, look, let's run the numbers really quickly, OK? | 我说,你看,让我们运行 数字非常快,好吗? |
| 870 | Based on the DNA of the gene pool you were born into, | 根据你出生的基因库的DNA |
| 871 | what's the likelihood of when you're going to die? | 当你要死的时候 几率有多大? |
| 872 | She kind of goes, I'm probably going | 她有点走,我可能要去 |
| 873 | to make it to my late 80s, early 90s. | 到80多岁,90多岁 |
| 874 | Let's say I make it healthy to 85, 88. | 假设我使它健康到85,88。 |
| 875 | How long do you want to work? | 你想工作多长时间? |
| 876 | Well, probably 80. | 嗯,也许80。 |
| 877 | I said, OK, great. | 我说,好吧,太好了。 |
| 878 | So we've got 26 years to go. | 所以我们还有26年的时间 |
| 879 | And so you applied. | 所以你申请了 |
| 880 | Probably going to spend a year going to a medical school | 可能要上医学院一年 |
| 881 | application preparatory program called a post-bac program. | 应用准备程序称为后bac程序. |
| 882 | Spend a year on that. | 花一年时间 |
| 883 | Spend a year trying to get in, that's two. | 花一年时间试图进入,这是两个。 |
| 884 | Four years to get through medical school. | 四年经医院. |
| 885 | Now you're in residency, by the way. | 顺便说一句,你现在住院了 |
| 886 | 90% of medicine is done by residents, | 90%的药品由居民提供, |
| 887 | so you're already a doctor. | 你已经是医生了 |
| 888 | You're now practicing medicine six years | 你现在在行医六年了 |
| 889 | into the program. | 进入程序。 |
| 890 | Eventually you finish your specialty. | 最终你完成了你的专长。 |
| 891 | You know, we're now eight years into the program. | 你知道,我们现在有8年的时间了。 |
| 892 | That puts you at 64. | 这么说你64岁了 |
| 893 | You got 11 to 12 years to go before even backing off, | 你还有11到12年的时间 才能退缩 |
| 894 | maybe 15. | 也许15。 |
| 895 | Cut out the crap of all this conventional thinking | 别胡说八道了 |
| 896 | and just ask yourself the question, what's happening? | 问你自己,发生了什么事? |
| 897 | What might it be? | 可能会是什么? |
| 898 | I mean, I'm about to get married for the third time | 我的意思是,我即将结婚 第三次 |
| 899 | because my wife died on me, which was not the plan. | 因为我妻子死在我身上 这不是计划 |
| 900 | And a lot of my friends say to me, it's too hard. | 很多朋友对我说 太难了 |
| 901 | It's too much work. | 功用太过. |
| 902 | Do you really want to go through that again? | 你真的想再经历一次吗? |
| 903 | I go, sure. | 我当然走了 |
| 904 | It's terrific. | 这是伟大的。 |
| 905 | It's a ton of work. | 功德无量. |
| 906 | It's an absolute mountain of work. | 绝对是一座劳动山. |
| 907 | But I mean, what else am I doing? | 我还能做什么? |
| 908 | When you go to a funeral, it's very interesting. | 当你去葬礼时,这很有趣。 |
| 909 | Oh yeah. | 对 |
| 910 | The second you walk out of the funeral, | 一旦你走出葬礼, |
| 911 | you feel more alive and you have more urgency | 你感觉更活泼 更有紧迫感 |
| 912 | to do what you came here to do, Dave and Bill. | 做你来这里做什么,戴夫和比尔。 |
| 913 | You said we want to give people permission | 你说我们要给别人许可 |
| 914 | to live their lives. | 过他们的生活。 |
| 915 | And especially right now when the world feels | 尤其是现在,当世界感觉 |
| 916 | so overwhelming and people are exhausted | 如此压倒一切,人们疲惫不堪 |
| 917 | and there are very big problems, | 有非常大的问题, |
| 918 | like it is easy to go, it doesn't matter. | 像它很容易去, 这不重要。 |
| 919 | And when you start to do the math, | 当你开始做数学, |
| 920 | whether you're telling me that you have seven different lives | 你是否告诉我你有七个不同的生活 |
| 921 | you could do, you're going to die with shit | 你可以的,你会死在狗屎 |
| 922 | on your to-do list and things you never achieved. | 在您的待办事宜列表中 以及你从未实现的事情。 |
| 923 | You're 50, so what? | 你50岁,那又怎样? |
| 924 | You got 40, you're 70. | 你有40,你70岁。 |
| 925 | You probably got 20 more years left. | 你可能还有20年 |
| 926 | What are you doing? | 你在干吗? |
| 927 | Look, my next milestone is death. | 你看,我的下一个里程碑是死亡。 |
| 928 | I haven't got time to waste. | 我没有时间浪费。 |
| 929 | You know, but Dave and I have been in wonderful communities. | 你知道,但戴夫和我一直 在一个美好的社区。 |
| 930 | I've been in this group of men, a men's group for 32 years | 我参加这个男人团体32年了 |
| 931 | because I started when my son got born | 因为我从我儿子出生开始 |
| 932 | and I needed to figure out how to raise a son. | 我得想办法养一个儿子 |
| 933 | And we ended up, we've been around long enough | 结果,我们在一起已经够久了 |
| 934 | that we've had some guys die and gone to their funerals | 我们让一些家伙死了 去了他们的葬礼 |
| 935 | and said wonderful things about them. | 并对他们说过美妙的话。 |
| 936 | And then we decided, why don't we wait till we die | 然后我们决定,为什么不等死 |
| 937 | before we say wonderful things about each other. | 在我们说出彼此的美好故事之前 |
| 938 | So we have a protocol in our men's group | 所以,我们有一个协议 我们的人组 |
| 939 | where you can say, I'm going to die next week. | 我下周会死 |
| 940 | I'd like everybody to write a eulogy. | 我要大家写悼词 |
| 941 | And then you come in and then you lay there quietly | 然后你进来,然后悄悄地躺在那里 |
| 942 | and you listen to people say | 你听别人说 |
| 943 | the most wonderful things about you, right? | 你最美妙的事,对不对? |
| 944 | 因为Eulogies不是关于, | |
| 945 | oh, well, you know, Dave had a big to-do list. | 哦,嗯,你知道,戴夫有一个很大的待办事项列表。 |
| 946 | He crashed off lots of things. | 他撞倒了很多东西。 |
| 947 | 他的"PowerPoints"做得非常好 | |
| 948 | and he always got his budget set on time. | 而且他总是能按时完成预算 |
| 949 | Nobody says that. | 没人这么说 |
| 950 | They say, well, he's a good man. | 他们说他是个好人 |
| 951 | He was a wonderful husband. | 他是个好丈夫 |
| 952 | He was a great father. | 他是个好父亲。 |
| 953 | So do that. | 那就这么做吧 |
| 954 | Have your friends write your eulogy | 让你的朋友写悼词 |
| 955 | and find out what you really mean to people. | 找出你对人的真正意义 |
| 956 | It's amazing. | 不可思议. |
| 957 | You could also, you do that exercise | 你也可以做那个练习 |
| 958 | thinking about what you hope or wish | 思考你所希望的或希望的 |
| 959 | is being said about how you lived your life. | 有人说你的生活 |
| 960 | Because what you don't want it to be is, | 因为你不想变成这样 |
| 961 | well, he got to be 70 and had the love of his life | 他70岁了,有他一生的爱 |
| 962 | and just turned down the opportunity | 却拒绝了这个机会 |
| 963 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}再结婚再做一次 | |
| 964 | And she wanted to go to medical school | 她想上医学院 |
| 965 | but talked herself out of it for 30 years. | 30年来一直自言自语 |
| 966 | No, I'm an smug of a guy for 51 years, | 不,我是一个自负 一个家伙51年, |
| 967 | formed in 1974 called TD3, Tom and Three Daves. | 1974年形成,名为TD3,汤姆和三个戴夫. |
| 968 | I'm the founding Dave. | 我是创始人戴夫。 |
| 969 | And, you know, we just went through this exercise | 而且,你知道,我们刚刚经历了这个练习 |
| 970 | of moving into our seventies. | 进入70年代 |
| 971 | And so we said, okay, let's all first of all, | 所以,我们说,好吧, 让我们首先, |
| 972 | announce what age we think we're gonna die at | 宣布我们以为会死在哪个年龄 |
| 973 | and then write the eulogy you hope will be true by then | 然后写你希望的悼词 到那时会是真的 |
| 974 | and make sure that the eulogy includes things | 并确保悼词中包含的东西 |
| 975 | that aren't true yet. | 那还不是真的 |
| 976 | So you can live aspirationally into that. | 这样你就可以满怀希望地生活下去。 |
| 977 | And we really do believe that a human being is a becoming | 我们确实相信 人类正在变得 |
| 978 | and that becoming should be a nonstop program. | 变成一个无休止的计划 |
| 979 | Don't quit early. | 别早戒. |
| 980 | Now, you might have some constraints physically, | 现在,你可能有一些限制 身体, |
| 981 | circumstantially otherwise, | 否则, |
| 982 | but there's always more you can become into. | 但你总能变成更多人 |
| 983 | So which questions do you wanna live into? | 那你想问什么问题? |
| 984 | And by the way, preferably, | 顺便说一句,最好是, |
| 985 | it does really help to have some people around | 这真的有帮助 有一些人身边 |
| 986 | that you're asking these questions with. | 你问这些问题。 |
| 987 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 988 | So how old did you say you were gonna be when you died? | 你说你死时会多大? |
| 989 | And what was the thing that you haven't done yet | 你还没做什么? |
| 990 | that was on the list? | 名单里有吗? |
| 991 | My life, 85, I'm guessing I'll make it to 85. | 我的生活,85,我猜我会使它85。 |
| 992 | I'd like you to live a little longer. | 我希望你能活得久一点 |
| 993 | Well, I'm thinking I may work for an extension | 好吧,我想我可以工作 延长 |
| 994 | to the contract, but nonetheless, | 但是,尽管如此, |
| 995 | at the time I said 85. | 当时我说85。 |
| 996 | And the way I put what I'm aspiring to was, | 我所想表达的就是 |
| 997 | when I get to heaven, I want to be recognized | 当我到了天堂,我想被认出来 |
| 998 | as somebody who's already been there. | 作为已经在那里的人。 |
| 999 | Meaning I've already stepped into profound acceptance | 意思是我已经深入接受 |
| 1000 | and universal love and welcome to all persons at all times. | 和普世爱,欢迎所有人在任何时候。 |
| 1001 | I wanna look like I'm already doing that | 我想看起来像我已经这样做了 |
| 1002 | by the time I get there. | 当我到达那里。 |
| 1003 | I think there's a huge power, | 我认为有巨大的力量, |
| 1004 | and you know this based on the way the brain works, | 你知道这基于大脑的运作方式, |
| 1005 | in really embracing the truth of everything | 真正接受一切的真理 |
| 1006 | that you just said in terms of giving yourself permission | 你刚才说 允许自己 |
| 1007 | to not just live a meaningful life now | 不再仅仅过着有意义的生活 |
| 1008 | and find moments of meaning, | 发现一些有意义的时刻, |
| 1009 | but to really think about what you want | 但真正思考你想要什么 |
| 1010 | to accomplish by the end. | 最终完成。 |
| 1011 | I'm thinking about this text. | 我在想这个短信 |
| 1012 | Who do you want to become? | 你想成为谁? |
| 1013 | Yeah, who do you want to become? | 是啊,你想成为谁? |
| 1014 | I'm thinking about my mother-in-law who's 89. | 我想起89岁的婆婆 |
| 1015 | I think she's 89. | 我想她已经89岁了 |
| 1016 | Is she 88? | 她是88号吗? |
| 1017 | I don't know, but she texted in the family-wide group chat. | 我不知道,但她发短信 在全家集体聊天。 |
| 1018 | I'm gonna be here another 10 years | 我要在这里再待十年 |
| 1019 | because I wanna see all the grandkids get married | 因为我想看所有的孙子结婚 |
| 1020 | if they choose to get married. | 如果他们选择结婚。 |
| 1021 | And I was like, wow. | 我当时想,哇。 |
| 1022 | She's in the game. | 她在比赛中。 |
| 1023 | She knows what she's doing. | 她知道自己在做什么 她知道自己在做什么 她知道自己在做什么 She knows what she's doing. |
| 1024 | And I think there's an invitation to all of us. | 我认为我们所有人都有邀请函 |
| 1025 | And so I love that construct | 所以我喜欢这种构造 |
| 1026 | of what age do you think you're dying | 你觉得你快死了吗? |
| 1027 | and what are all the things | 和所有的东西 |
| 1028 | that you wanna accomplish that you haven't done yet? | 你想完成你还没有完成的事? |
| 1029 | And what do you hope? | 你希望怎样? |
| 1030 | Yeah, the specific tool in the book for that | 是啊,书中的具体工具 |
| 1031 | is called the focus question. | 称为焦点问题。 |
| 1032 | We actually encourage you to come up with | 我们实际上鼓励你提出 |
| 1033 | the focus question of what focuses your attention | 重点问题是什么 聚焦你的注意力 |
| 1034 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你想成为什么 | |
| 1035 | at this particular moment or season of your life. | 在你生命的这个时刻或季节 |
| 1036 | So can you write down the question that not like, | 所以,你可以写下的问题 不喜欢, |
| 1037 | will I have enough money to retire by then? | 那时我有足够的钱退休了吗? |
| 1038 | Those are transactional questions. | 这些都是交易问题。 |
| 1039 | But a year from now, two years from now, | 但一年之后,两年之后, |
| 1040 | three years from now, | 三年后,我们... |
| 1041 | if you live well into the invitation | 如果你在邀请中生活得很好 |
| 1042 | to become more yourself, | 成为更多的你自己, |
| 1043 | what question do you hope to be able to answer | 你想回答什么问题? |
| 1044 | by the end of the next year, two or three | 明年年底前,两三个 |
| 1045 | that you're thinking about? | 你在考虑什么? |
| 1046 | So in my case, it was how will I learn | 所以,就我而言,我是如何学会的 |
| 1047 | to live out of get to, not got to? | 活在无处可去,而不是无处可去? |
| 1048 | Because I think that's a more generous position | 因为我觉得这样比较慷慨 |
| 1049 | that might allow me to hit heaven in the right point of view. | 这也许可以让我从正确的角度看待天堂 |
| 1050 | And so that's the focus question I've got. | 这就是我的焦点问题。 |
| 1051 | How do I live deeply into get to, not got to? | 我怎样才能活得更深入,而不是更深入? |
| 1052 | That's my focus question for now. | 这是我现在的焦点问题 |
| 1053 | And preferably having some people around you | 最好有人在你身边 |
| 1054 | that can help you with that question. | 这可以帮助你的问题。 |
| 1055 | And by the way, I don't think anybody writing their eulogy | 顺便说一句,我不认为有人写悼词 |
| 1056 | or those questions says, I wish I had more, | 或者那些问题说,我希望我有更多的, |
| 1057 | I think I'd want to have more money by the time I'm X. | 我想,我会想要更多的钱 当我是X。 |
| 1058 | Because you get to the second half of life, | 因为你到了下半辈子, |
| 1059 | assuming that money is enough and have it if it's not, | 假设钱足够了,如果没有的话,有它, |
| 1060 | or whatever, but it's hard. | 或什么,但这是很难的。 |
| 1061 | You start to realize that those kinds | 你开始意识到这些类型 |
| 1062 | of transactional accomplishments, | 交易成绩, |
| 1063 | while important and interesting ways of keeping score, | 重要而有趣的记分方法 |
| 1064 | aren't the things that are going to make you happy | 让你快乐的东西 |
| 1065 | when you're dead, when you get to that point. | 当你死了, 当你到达这一点。 |
| 1066 | So I really encourage the folks who are thinking | 所以我真的鼓励那些想 |
| 1067 | about this stuff, think a little, | 关于这些东西, 想想, |
| 1068 | give yourself a little bit of time, turn off the phone | 给自己一点时间,关掉电话 |
| 1069 | and give yourself a little bit of time to think about, | 给自己一点时间想想 |
| 1070 | what would I hope people say about me? | 我希望人们会怎么说我? |
| 1071 | And how do I become the person | 我怎样才能成为人 |
| 1072 | that deserves them to say that? | 他们应该这么说吗? |
| 1073 | And that stuff comes up, | 那东西来了, |
| 1074 | and it could be connected to your wild card, | 它可能与你的野生卡, |
| 1075 | it could be just connected to where you are in your journey. | 它可能只是连接到 你的旅程。 |
| 1076 | That stuff comes up, where you'll, | 那东西会出来,你会在哪里, |
| 1077 | a lot of times when I do this, | 很多时候,当我这样做, |
| 1078 | because one of the first things I said to Dave | 因为我对戴夫说的第一句话之一 |
| 1079 | when we set this up is, we got to do everything | 当我们设置这个是, 我们必须做的一切 |
| 1080 | we put in the books otherwise, | 不然我们把书放进去了 |
| 1081 | because the biggest hypocrites on the planet. | 因为地球上最大的伪君子 |
| 1082 | So we do all this stuff. | 所以我们做这些事情。 |
| 1083 | And every once in a while when I do this stuff, | 偶尔当我做这些事情的时候 |
| 1084 | I lean back and I go, oh wow, where did that come from? | 我向后仰,然后我走了, 哦,哇,这是从哪里来的? |
| 1085 | That's a good, like that's an idea. | 这很好,就像一个想法。 |
| 1086 | Where did that come from? | 从哪里来的? |
| 1087 | It came from some part of me, | 它来自我的一部分, |
| 1088 | just needed a little bit of quiet to find its voice. | 只是需要一点点安静 找到它的声音。 |
| 1089 | So I hope people can do that, because it's really. | 所以我希望人们可以做到这一点, 因为这是真的。 |
| 1090 | Yeah, if you're paying attention, | 是啊,如果你注意的话, |
| 1091 | life is full of invitations. | 生活充满了邀请。 |
| 1092 | I think life is full of invitations to your becoming self | 我认为生活充满了邀请 你成为自己 |
| 1093 | if you're paying attention. | 如果你注意的话 |
| 1094 | Yeah, you said turn off the phone and take the time | 是啊,你说关上电话,慢慢来 |
| 1095 | for the person that says, well, I just can't, | 对于说,嗯,我只是不能, |
| 1096 | I'm overwhelmed, I have no time. | 我不知所措 没时间了 |
| 1097 | What do you want to say directly to them, Bill? | 你想直接跟他们说什么,比尔? |
| 1098 | I'll bet if I looked at your phone and tried to find it, | 我敢打赌,如果我看你的手机 并试图找到它, |
| 1099 | it would tell me how much time you spend on Instagram, | 它会告诉我你花了多少时间 在Instagram, |
| 1100 | how much time you spend on TikTok, | 你花多少时间在TikTok上, |
| 1101 | how much time you spend scrolling mindlessly | 你花多少时间无心地滚动 |
| 1102 | through reels or short videos on YouTube. | 透过YouTube上的录像或短视频。 |
| 1103 | I do it too, and every once in a while I look at it | 我也这样做,偶尔我看着它 |
| 1104 | and go, I can't believe I spent an hour on this crap. | 我简直不敢相信我花了一个小时 处理这些废话 |
| 1105 | So give yourself a pause and go look at the phone, | 给自己一个暂停, 去看电话, |
| 1106 | it'll tell you how much time you spend | 它会告诉你你花了多少时间 |
| 1107 | just doom scrolling through stuff. | 只是末日滚动的东西。 |
| 1108 | And I always ask people, tell me the last video you were, | 我总是问人们, 告诉我最后的视频你是什么, |
| 1109 | tell me the last video you watched, they go, I don't know. | 告诉我你看的最后一段视频,他们走了,我不知道。 |
| 1110 | Tell me the last reel you watched, I don't know. | 告诉我你看的最后一卷,我不知道。 |
| 1111 | Tell me the last text you read | 告诉我你最后读的文字 |
| 1112 | or the last thing you read on X, I don't know. | 或者你在X上读的最后一件事,我不知道。 |
| 1113 | I said, so if you're doing it | 我说,所以如果你这样做 |
| 1114 | and you can't even remember what it was, | 你甚至不记得它是什么 |
| 1115 | would you like to reallocate that time | 那一次你想换个位置吗? |
| 1116 | to something more interesting? | 更有趣的东西? |
| 1117 | I'm only talking about 20 minutes here. | 我在这里只说20分钟 |
| 1118 | Can you give me 20 minutes that you would have spent? | 能给我20分钟吗? |
| 1119 | Because I do the same thing. | 因为我做同样的事情。 |
| 1120 | And just be present with yourself and see what comes up. | 和你自己在一起,看看会发生什么。 |
| 1121 | You know, standing in front of a big blank canvas | 你知道,站在一个大空白的画布前 |
| 1122 | and I'm going, oh, the world really needs | 而我要去,哦,世界确实需要 |
| 1123 | an older white guy painter | 一个白人画家 |
| 1124 | because we need more painters in the world. | 因为我们需要更多的画家 在世界上。 |
| 1125 | And I'm going to paint something and no one's going to care. | 我要画点东西 没人会在乎 |
| 1126 | So I go through all that stuff in my head. | 所以,我通过所有的东西 在我头上。 |
| 1127 | And then if I quiet down for a little while | 如果我安静一会 |
| 1128 | and I just stare at this thing, I get an idea. | 我只是盯着这东西,我得到一个想法。 |
| 1129 | Then I get another idea and I get another idea. | 然后,我得到了另一个想法,我得到了另一个想法。 |
| 1130 | Pretty soon, the painting is painting itself | 很快,这幅画正在自己画 |
| 1131 | and everything is wonderful. | 万事皆妙无比 |
| 1132 | But boy, everybody's got that moment where they're like, | 但是,孩子,每个人都有那一刻 他们喜欢, |
| 1133 | oh no, this isn't going to work | 哦,不,这不是要去工作 |
| 1134 | or this is stupid or this is useless. | 或这是愚蠢的,或这是无用的。 |
| 1135 | I have that all the time. | 我一直都有这个 |
| 1136 | Well, that's the moment. | 是时候了 |
| 1137 | That's what it all comes down to. | 皆如来下. |
| 1138 | Because you can stay there | 因为你可以呆在那里 |
| 1139 | or you can lean into the other world | 或者你可以向另一个世界倾斜 |
| 1140 | you've taught us about. | 你教过我们 |
| 1141 | Pick up a brush and put something on the canvas. | 捡个刷子在画布上放点什么 |
| 1142 | And again, set the bar alone. | 再说一遍,把酒吧设好 |
| 1143 | Like, oh, I really need to start meditating. | 就像,哦,我真的需要开始冥想。 |
| 1144 | So I should do 20 minutes every morning | 所以我每天早上应该做20分钟 |
| 1145 | between six and 6.20. | 6到6点20分之间 |
| 1146 | I got to get up at 5.30, you know, | 我得在5点30分起床,你知道, |
| 1147 | and eat some really pure yogurt first. | 先吃点纯酸奶 |
| 1148 | Like, whoa, dude, lighten up. | 放松点 |
| 1149 | Five minutes. | 五分钟 |
| 1150 | How about, like, we've got a thing | 怎么样,喜欢,我们有一个事情 |
| 1151 | called the seventh day savoring. | 被称为第七天的滋味。 |
| 1152 | Once a week, sit down and pick a moment during the week | 每周一次,坐下来,在一周里挑个时间 |
| 1153 | when you felt deeply alive, go back and savor it | 当你觉得很生动的时候 回去好好享受 |
| 1154 | because you didn't have time | 因为你没有时间 |
| 1155 | to fully experience it in real time. | 完全体验它实时。 |
| 1156 | You know, you could just go back there | 你知道,你可以 刚刚回到那里 |
| 1157 | and, like, linger over it. | 并一样,停留在它。 |
| 1158 | I mean, put that, let it sit on your tongue | 把它放在你的舌头上 |
| 1159 | and really get the most out of it. | 并真正得到最 出来。 |
| 1160 | Okay, it's five minutes a week. | 好吧,这是每周五分钟。 |
| 1161 | And your prototype is, I'll do that twice. | 你的原型是,我会做两次。 |
| 1162 | Okay, so two five minutes on a Sunday afternoon | 好,星期日下午两五分钟 |
| 1163 | and then ask the question, was that worth it? | 然后问问题 值得吗? |
| 1164 | Did I enjoy that? | 我很喜欢吗? |
| 1165 | Well, I'll do a little bit more. | 好吧,我会做多一点。 |
| 1166 | I mean, it's okay. | 我的意思是,没关系。 |
| 1167 | You don't have to jump over your head. | 你不必跳过你的头。 |
| 1168 | If you're moving, you know, | 如果你在移动,你知道, |
| 1169 | that's moving toward a meaning-making practice. | 这正在走向一个有意义的实践。 |
| 1170 | So you're designing your way forward. | 所以你在设计你的前进方向。 |
| 1171 | I wanna read to you from your blockbuster bestseller, | 我想读你的畅销书 |
| 1172 | How to Live a Meaningful Life. | 如何过着有意义的生活. |
| 1173 | And this is page eight, all of us. | 这是第八页,我们所有人。 |
| 1174 | This longing for more meaning | 如此渴望更有意义 |
| 1175 | may be one of the most universal things | 也许是最普遍的东西之一 |
| 1176 | that all humans want. | 人类想要的 |
| 1177 | Lives that are generative and joyful, | 生活是遗传性的和快乐的, |
| 1178 | fulfilling and connected. | 满足和连接。 |
| 1179 | Lives that are about more than just getting through each day, | 活得比每天要多得多 |
| 1180 | paying the bills, maybe taking a vacation now and then. | 付账单 偶尔放假 |
| 1181 | And too many people are finding too few an answer | 太多人找到的答案太少了 |
| 1182 | for how to get what their hearts keep telling them | 如何获得他们的心一直告诉他们的 |
| 1183 | they were made for. | 是用来制造的 |
| 1184 | The meaning and purpose that they need. | 他们需要的意义和目的。 |
| 1185 | The quest for meaning can seem too big and too overwhelming. | 寻求意义可能看起来太大,而且过于过分。 |
| 1186 | But here's the thing, there is something you can do, | 但问题是 你可以做点什么 |
| 1187 | really actually do to experience | 真实的体验 |
| 1188 | a more meaningful life today, | 更有意义的生活今天, |
| 1189 | right now in this exact moment. | 此时此刻 |
| 1190 | So Dave. | 大卫 |
| 1191 | Yes. | 对 |
| 1192 | What is that one thing? | 那是什么东西? |
| 1193 | Well, the first thing is you gotta reframe. | 首先,你必须重新塑造。 |
| 1194 | You know, in design, we do a problem finding | 你知道,在设计, 我们做一个问题发现 |
| 1195 | before we do a problem solving. | 在解决问题之前 |
| 1196 | One of the reasons people fail | 失败的原因之一 |
| 1197 | is they're working on the wrong thing. | 他们搞错了 |
| 1198 | Problem finding? | 有问题吗? |
| 1199 | Finding precedes problem solving. | 在解决问题之前先找到答案。 |
| 1200 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1201 | So the question, | 所以问题 |
| 1202 | oh, how do I live a more meaningful life? | 哦,我怎么过更有意义的生活? |
| 1203 | Usually frames itself as what is the meaning of my life? | 通常都把自己描绘成我生命的意义? |
| 1204 | I have not yet found my purpose. | 我还没有找到我的目的。 |
| 1205 | What is the one true thing | 什么才是真实的 |
| 1206 | that really is what I'm here to do? | 这真的是我在这里做什么? |
| 1207 | And we think those are all the wrong question. | 我们认为这些都是错误的问题。 |
| 1208 | Because they all treat you as a transaction, | 因为他们都把你当成交易 |
| 1209 | as a problem to be solved, | 作为一个需要解决的问题, |
| 1210 | for which there is a correct answer. | 有个正确的答案 |
| 1211 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1212 | So instead of working on the what is the meaning of life, | 因此,与其研究生命的意义, |
| 1213 | we're here to give you tools | 我们是来给你工具的 |
| 1214 | to design more meaning in life. | 来设计生活中更多的意义。 |
| 1215 | Okay, I wanna make sure the person listening got this. | 好吧,我想确保 听的人得到这个。 |
| 1216 | One of the reasons why I get stuck and you get stuck | 我被卡住的原因之一 你被卡住 |
| 1217 | and the people that you love get stuck | 你爱的人被困住了 |
| 1218 | is number one, we're asking the wrong question, | 第一,我们问错了问题 |
| 1219 | which is how do I find meaning? | 我怎么才能找到意义? |
| 1220 | The ultimate answer to life. | 命终之答. |
| 1221 | The ultimate, is this really it? | 最终,这是真的吗? |
| 1222 | Have I found it? | 我找到了吗? |
| 1223 | No, you haven't found it | 不,你还没找到 |
| 1224 | because you're gonna keep growing and it's gonna change. | 因为你会继续成长,它会改变。 |
| 1225 | So stop worrying about it and let's work on this. | 所以别担心了,我们来研究一下 |
| 1226 | Well, what I love about it is, | 嗯,我喜欢的是, |
| 1227 | look, this is why you guys are brilliant, okay? | 看,这就是为什么你们 聪明,好吗? |
| 1228 | Just gotta say, it's because as I've been sitting here | 我得说,因为我一直坐在这里 |
| 1229 | going, I gotta find it, that statement in and of itself | 我要找到它 声明本身 |
| 1230 | says it's out there. | 说在外. |
| 1231 | Right. | 对 |
| 1232 | How do I create more meaning right here? | 我怎么创造更多意义呢? |
| 1233 | So don't wait for the ultimate answer. | 故不待终答. |
| 1234 | By the way, we have both in different ways | 顺便说一句,我们两个都有不同的方式 |
| 1235 | have worked on the big questions for a long time | 长期以来一直在研究大问题 |
| 1236 | and we think the big questions really matter. | 我们认为大问题真的很重要 |
| 1237 | I'm not saying never think about that. | 我不是说永远不要考虑这一点。 |
| 1238 | What I'm saying is don't defer life is good | 我说的是不要延后生命是好事 |
| 1239 | and worthwhile until you find those answers. | 而且值得 直到你找到答案为止 |
| 1240 | What you can do is start living | 你能做的就是开始生活 |
| 1241 | into the moment that you're in. | 进入你进入的那一刻 |
| 1242 | So the first reframe is, how do I find more meaning now? | 所以,第一个重构是, 我如何发现更多的意义现在? |
| 1243 | And then the second thing is, and where might I find it? | 第二件事是,我能在哪里找到它? |
| 1244 | Well, I'm glad you said there was a second question. | 我很高兴你说有第二个问题 |
| 1245 | Here's the thing, as somebody who's really screwed up | 事情是这样的, 一个人谁真的搞砸了 |
| 1246 | her life for large stretches of it, | 她的命为它的巨大伸展, |
| 1247 | there are times if you had asked, you had instructed me. | 有的时候,如果你问, 你告诉我。 |
| 1248 | Mel, the answer is to find more meaning | 梅尔,答案是找到更多的意义 |
| 1249 | where you are right now. | 你现在在哪? |
| 1250 | You know what I would have said? | 你知道我会说什么吗? |
| 1251 | Probably F you. | 也许是F你。 |
| 1252 | Because I don't like where I am right now | 因为我不喜欢我现在的位置 |
| 1253 | and there is nothing meaningful about this, | 没有什么有意义的, |
| 1254 | which is why I want something else. | 所以我要别的东西 |
| 1255 | Do you know what I mean? | 你知道我的意思吗? |
| 1256 | So what do you say to the person that's feeling that right? | 你对感觉对的人怎么说? |
| 1257 | Like there is no way to find meaning where I am right now. | 就像没有办法找到意义 我现在在哪里。 |
| 1258 | That's probably because the thing that's not working, | 这可能是因为 事情不起作用, |
| 1259 | there's something about the job is not working, | 工作有些不对劲 |
| 1260 | the marriage isn't working. | 婚姻是无效的。 |
| 1261 | There's something I'm really unhappy about. | 有件事我真的很不高兴 |
| 1262 | I'm not getting what I wanted | 我没有得到我想要的 |
| 1263 | from this particular aspect of my life. | 我生命的这个特殊方面 |
| 1264 | And so then you say, well, find more meaning. | 然后你说 找到更多意义 |
| 1265 | You're trying to tell me how to make a bad thing good. | 你想告诉我如何做坏事 |
| 1266 | Well, when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. | 好吧,当生命给你柠檬, 做柠檬汁。 |
| 1267 | Okay, the problem with the lemonade idea | 好吧,柠檬水想法的问题 |
| 1268 | is let's take a bad thing and make a good thing of it. | 让我们做一件坏事 做一件好事 |
| 1269 | No, no, no, no. | 释曰. |
| 1270 | Okay, there's something that's not working. | 好吧,有些东西是行不通的。 |
| 1271 | I get that, but that doesn't mean | 我明白,但这并不意味着 |
| 1272 | there aren't other parts of your life | 没有其他你的生活部分 |
| 1273 | where more meaning and more aliveness are lurking, | 更有意义,更活泼, |
| 1274 | latently waiting for you to discover them. | 潜伏地等待你发现它们。 |
| 1275 | Don't let those go. | 不要让那些走。 |
| 1276 | Now, meanwhile, we might want to have some projects too. | 与此同时,我们也许也想要一些项目。 |
| 1277 | Maybe your job is a bad situation. | 也许你的工作是个坏情况 |
| 1278 | When we got asked over and over again, | 当我们一次又一次被问起 |
| 1279 | why isn't it more fulfilling? | 为什么不更满足呢? |
| 1280 | I thought I did everything you guys said | 我以为你们说的我都做了 |
| 1281 | and it still isn't working for me. | 但它仍然对我无效。 |
| 1282 | We're hearing that skyrocket as a question | 我们正听到那个飞涨的声音,作为一个问题 |
| 1283 | in the last two years. | 在过去两年。 |
| 1284 | I'm just not having the impact I want to. | 我只是没有 影响我想。 |
| 1285 | Well, impact is important, | 嗯,影响很重要, |
| 1286 | but it's only one form of meaning making | 但它只是一种形式 意为制造 |
| 1287 | and it's got a very short half-life. | 它的半衰期很短 |
| 1288 | Right after you finish doing something successful, | 在你完成一些成功的事情之后, |
| 1289 | three, two, one, what have you done for us lately? | 三,二,一,你最近为我们做了什么? |
| 1290 | So there are other ways to experience meaning, | 所以还有其他方法去体验意义, |
| 1291 | which happen in this place we call the flow world, | 发生在我们称之为流动世界的地方 |
| 1292 | not in this busy world we're all in most of the time | 不是在这个繁忙的世界里 我们大部分时间都在 |
| 1293 | we call the transactional world. | 我们称之为交易世界。 |
| 1294 | So our big invitation for where that more meaning is | 所以,我们的大邀请 哪里更有意义 |
| 1295 | is spending more time in the flow world, | 花更多的时间在流动世界, |
| 1296 | which is right here, by the way, | 顺便说一句,就是这里 |
| 1297 | but there's a lot more in front of you than you think. | 但是在你面前的比你想的还要多 |
| 1298 | This is easier than they told you. | 这比他们告诉你的容易 |
| 1299 | Okay, that's the part I want to hang on to. | 好吧,这就是我想要坚持的部分。 |
| 1300 | This is easier than they told you | 这比他们说的容易 |
| 1301 | and this is also easier than what you're currently doing. | 这比你现在做的还简单 |
| 1302 | So flow is that state where time stands still, | 所以流动是时间不变的状态 |
| 1303 | you're in the moment by definition, | 从定义上讲,你正处于这一刻, |
| 1304 | because that's where you are fully engaged | 因为那是你完全订婚的地方 |
| 1305 | and it's a moment where actually you're making energy. | 这是你真正创造能量的时刻 |
| 1306 | Psychologists will say it's an energy generating moment | 心理学家会说这是一个产生能量的时刻 |
| 1307 | because it just feels so good. | 因为感觉很好 |
| 1308 | Dopamine and other good chemicals going into the brain | 多巴胺和其他化学物质进入大脑 |
| 1309 | and some of this comes from the work of Dr. Lisa Miller | 其中一些来自丽莎·米勒博士的工作 |
| 1310 | and you know her from Columbia. | 你认识她来自哥伦比亚 |
| 1311 | She kind of updated the left brain, right brain model. | 她更新了左脑,右脑模型。 |
| 1312 | We used to say the right brain was the creative brain | 我们常说正确的大脑是创造力的大脑 |
| 1313 | and the left brain was the analytical brain. | 左脑是分析大脑。 |
| 1314 | It's more nuanced than that and her model is | 这比那更细微 她的模特儿是 |
| 1315 | there's the achieving brain, the transactional brain | 有成就的大脑,交易的大脑 |
| 1316 | and the awakened brain is where we experience flow, | 觉醒的大脑是我们体验流动的地方 |
| 1317 | where we experience spirituality, | 在那里,我们经历精神, |
| 1318 | where we experience a connection | 在那里,我们经历一个连接 |
| 1319 | to something bigger than ourselves. | 对比我们更大的东西。 |
| 1320 | And so all we're arguing for is recognize | 所以我们所争辩的就是承认 |
| 1321 | that there's two things, the transactional, the flow world, | 有两件事,交易,流动世界, |
| 1322 | the achieving brain, the awakened brain | 成就的大脑 觉醒的大脑 |
| 1323 | and get a little more into building your whole brain, | 并获得更多的 建设你的整个大脑, |
| 1324 | which is having a balance between the two | 两者平衡 |
| 1325 | and being in the flow world and experiencing | 在流动的世界中 经历着 |
| 1326 | this awakened sense of yourself connected to the world. | 这种唤醒的自我意识 与世界相连。 |
| 1327 | That's when we're more human, right? | 这时候我们更人性化,对不对? |
| 1328 | So we need both sides of the brain. | 所以我们需要大脑的两面。 |
| 1329 | We need both awakened and achieving. | 我们需要觉醒和成就。 |
| 1330 | We need to be in the transaction world and the flow world | 我们需要在交易世界和流动世界 |
| 1331 | and we're under practiced, right, | 我们被训练了 |
| 1332 | at getting into the flow world. | 进入流动世界 |
| 1333 | Can you give me some examples in day-to-day life | 你能给我一些日常生活的例子吗? |
| 1334 | that really help illustrate for the person listening | 这真的有助于说明 人听 |
| 1335 | who has never even considered | 从未想过 |
| 1336 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}还有第二个世界 | |
| 1337 | other than the one in your head? | 除了你脑子里的那个? |
| 1338 | Right. | 对 |
| 1339 | What does it feel like to be in flow | 流动的感觉是什么 |
| 1340 | or what's an example that you might find | 或者你能找到什么例子 |
| 1341 | in somebody's everyday life that you could hold on to | 在别人的日常生活中 你可以坚持 |
| 1342 | and go, oh, I've experienced this. | 去,哦,我经历过这个。 |
| 1343 | Okay, I understand this difference. | 好吧,我明白这个区别。 |
| 1344 | If you're an athlete, you felt that you're in the zone. | 如果你是运动员,你会觉得自己在赛区。 |
| 1345 | You're in that place where you just know | 你在那个你刚知道的地方 |
| 1346 | where the ball's gonna be. | 球会在哪里。 |
| 1347 | If you're a runner, it's the runner's high | 如果你是跑者 跑者会很高 |
| 1348 | where your brain goes quiet and you're just on the run. | 在那里,你的大脑去安静 而你只是运行。 |
| 1349 | I like to cook. | 我喜欢做饭 |
| 1350 | For me, it can be as simple as I'm chopping onions. | 对我来说,它可以像切洋葱一样简单。 |
| 1351 | I'm doing my mise en place | 我在做我的错事 |
| 1352 | and preparing everything before I cook | 在做饭前准备一切 |
| 1353 | and put on some good music and just be in that state. | 并放上一些好音乐 并只是处于这样的状态。 |
| 1354 | And then I'm not thinking about school. | 然后不思议学. |
| 1355 | I'm not thinking about the budget. | 我不是在考虑预算 |
| 1356 | I'm not thinking about other things. | 我没在想别的事 |
| 1357 | I have a lot of voices in his head | 他脑子里有很多声音 |
| 1358 | that are talking to me all the time. | 一直和我说话 |
| 1359 | And so learning to just kind of quiet them down | 所以学会让他们安静下来 |
| 1360 | and do an activity, running, cooking, | 并从事一种活动, 奔跑,烹饪, |
| 1361 | something that you enjoy doing, | 你喜欢做的事 |
| 1362 | but really being all in, right? | 但真正是所有,对不对? |
| 1363 | Being totally present and being available | 完全在场并随时可用 |
| 1364 | to what the experience can be. | 以经验为本 |
| 1365 | I keep coming back to this 14% thing. | 我总是回到14%的事情。 |
| 1366 | I think your next book should be the 14% mindset | 我觉得你的下一本书应该是14%的心态 |
| 1367 | because I just feel this sense of the invitation | 因为我只是觉得这种邀请感 |
| 1368 | of the unlived life, | 永生不灭, |
| 1369 | that there's these two lives that we have, | 我们有两种生命 |
| 1370 | the one you're living. | 你活着的那个 |
| 1371 | Yeah, the one you're living | 对,你住的那个 |
| 1372 | and the one you have yet to create. | 和你们尚未创造的。 |
| 1373 | And one of the things that you two write about | 你们两个写的东西之一 |
| 1374 | is that you can boil the design your life process | 你可以把设计你的生活过程煮沸 |
| 1375 | into a post-it note. | 变成一个后注。 |
| 1376 | Bill, what's on the post-it note? | 比尔,后遗书上写了什么? |
| 1377 | Well, this is hard. | 嗯,这是很难的。 |
| 1378 | Professors don't like to boil their things down | 教授们不喜欢煮东西 |
| 1379 | to something so simple that anybody can do it. | 简单的东西,任何人都可以做到这一点。 |
| 1380 | That's actually what everybody says. | 其实大家都这么说 |
| 1381 | Anybody, any idiot can make it complicated. | 任何人,任何白痴都可以把它弄得复杂。 |
| 1382 | It takes a genius to make it simple. | 这需要天才才能简单化 |
| 1383 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 1384 | Those Mark Twain's, if I had more time, | 那些马克・吐温的, 如果我有更多的时间, |
| 1385 | I'd have written a shorter letter. | 我会写个简短的信 |
| 1386 | It happened on Canadian live TV. | 发生在加拿大现场电视上。 |
| 1387 | We were running out of time. | 时间不多了 |
| 1388 | The producer goes, we're just about out of time. | 制片人走了,我们快没时间了 |
| 1389 | Can you do the book in a sentence? | 你能用句子写这本书吗? |
| 1390 | I said, dude, we're Stanford professors. | 我说,伙计,我们是斯坦福教授。 |
| 1391 | We don't give short answers to hard questions. | 我们不会对棘手的问题给出简短的答案. |
| 1392 | He goes, oh, then you're off the air. | 他走了,哦,然后你关闭的广播。 |
| 1393 | I said, give me a minute. | 我说,给我一分钟。 |
| 1394 | I was a marketing guy. | 我是个推销员 |
| 1395 | Get curious, talk to people, try stuff, tell your story. | 好奇点,和别人说话, 尝试一些东西, 讲述你的故事。 |
| 1396 | So it's 10 words. | 故为十句. |
| 1397 | It's really not one sentence, | 其实不是一句话 |
| 1398 | but it's get curious, lean in. | 但它变得好奇, 倾斜。 |
| 1399 | That's leaning to the availability. | 这是靠着可用性。 |
| 1400 | Talk to people, talk to people. | 与人说话,与人交谈. |
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