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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | Next to Washington where White House officials are playing defense today after Donald Trump's | 在华盛顿旁边 白宫官员们今天在 唐纳德·特朗普之后 |
| 0:05 | chief of staff gave a series of candid interviews to Vanity Fair. | 幕僚长对"名利场"进行了一系列坦率的采访. |
| 0:10 | Susie Wiles delivered a series of surprising and sometimes unflattering assessments | Susie Wiles提供了一系列令人惊讶的、有时是不折不扣的评估 |
| 0:15 | of the U.S. president. | 美国总统。 |
| 0:16 | Over a series of interviews, Wiles described Trump's appetite for revenge and | 在一系列采访中,威尔斯描述了特朗普的复仇欲望和 |
| 0:21 | his goal for regime change in Venezuela. | 他的目标是改变委内瑞拉的政权。 |
| 0:24 | But she's now calling it a hit piece that lacks | 但她现在称它为 一部没有 |
| 0:27 | context. | 上下文。 |
| 0:28 | Wiles is the first woman to hold the position of White House chief of staff | 威尔斯是第一位担任白宫幕僚长职位的女性 |
| 0:32 | and she's widely considered one of the most powerful people in Washington. | 她被广泛认为是华盛顿最有权势的人之一. |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Next to Washington where White House officials are playing defense today after Donald Trump's | 在华盛顿旁边 白宫官员们今天在 唐纳德·特朗普之后 |
| 2 | chief of staff gave a series of candid interviews to Vanity Fair. | 幕僚长对"名利场"进行了一系列坦率的采访. |
| 3 | Susie Wiles delivered a series of surprising and sometimes unflattering assessments | Susie Wiles提供了一系列令人惊讶的、有时是不折不扣的评估 |
| 4 | of the U.S. president. | 美国总统。 |
| 5 | Over a series of interviews, Wiles described Trump's appetite for revenge and | 在一系列采访中,威尔斯描述了特朗普的复仇欲望和 |
| 6 | his goal for regime change in Venezuela. | 他的目标是改变委内瑞拉的政权。 |
| 7 | But she's now calling it a hit piece that lacks | 但她现在称它为 一部没有 |
| 8 | context. | 上下文。 |
| 9 | Wiles is the first woman to hold the position of White House chief of staff | 威尔斯是第一位担任白宫幕僚长职位的女性 |
| 10 | and she's widely considered one of the most powerful people in Washington. | 她被广泛认为是华盛顿最有权势的人之一. |
| 11 | The CBC's Willie | 英国广播公司的威利 |
| 12 | Lowery is following this story for us. | Lowery在替我们跟踪这个故事 |
| 13 | He joins us live from Washington. | 他从华盛顿加入我们的现场直播 |
| 14 | So Willie, | 所以,威利,你觉得呢? |
| 15 | Susie Wiles说到做到 | |
| 16 | Absolutely, Andrew. | 当然,安德鲁。 |
| 17 | She said | 她说 |
| 18 | quite a bit. | 有点 |
| 19 | So over the course of the last year, filmmaker and author Chris Whipple spoke 11 times | 在过去一年里,电影制片人和作家克里斯·维普尔(Chris Whipple) 发表了11次演讲 |
| 20 | with President Donald Trump's chief of staff, Susie Wiles. | 与唐纳德·特朗普总统的幕僚长苏西·威尔斯. |
| 21 | And according to the article published | 根据发表的文章 |
| 22 | in Vanity Fair just this morning, Wiles made several comments about administration officials, | 威尔斯今早在"名利场"上对政府官员发表了若干评论, |
| 23 | including President Donald Trump. | 包括唐纳德·特朗普总统. |
| 24 | So among the most notable lines, she said that Trump has, | 因此,在最显著的台词中,她说特朗普已经, |
| 25 | quote, an alcoholic's personality, adding that he has another quote here, a view that there is | 引用,一个酒鬼的个性, 补充说,他有另一个引语在这里, 一种观点是, |
| 26 | he can't do nothing, zero, nothing. | 他什么也不能做,零,什么都没有。 |
| 27 | On the vice president, she said JD Vance has been a conspiracy | 副总统说万斯是阴谋 |
| 28 | theorist for a decade. | 理论家十年. |
| 29 | She accused the attorney general, Pam Bondi, of essentially whiffing on | 她指控总检察长Pam Bondi 基本上对 |
| 30 | the Epstein files. | 爱泼斯坦的文件 |
| 31 | And on Venezuela, she said Trump wants to, quote, keep on blowing boats up | 关于委内瑞拉 她说特朗普想继续炸船 |
| 32 | until Maduro cries uncle. | 直到马杜罗喊叔叔。 |
| 33 | Now for context, Wiles is perhaps the most influential and powerful figure | 从背景来看,威尔斯或许是最有影响力和最强大的人物 |
| 34 | inside this White House, aside from, of course, the president. | 在白宫里 除了总统 |
| 35 | And she's seen really as the glue | 她真的被看成胶水 |
| 36 | that keeps this administration together. | 使政府保持团结 |
| 37 | Unlike Trump's first administration, this one has | 和川普的首届政府不同 这届政府 |
| 38 | not seen any of the infighting that was a hallmark of the first term. | 没有看到任何内斗是第一个任期的标志。 |
| 39 | There's been very little | 几乎没有 |
| 40 | turnover, another hallmark of the president's first term. | 换届,总统第一个任期的另一个标志. |
| 41 | A lot of that is attributed to Wiles. | 其中许多都归功于威尔斯. |
| 42 | And Susie Wiles is now denying some of the content of this article. | 而苏西·威尔斯现在否认了这篇文章的一些内容. |
| 43 | Tell us about that. | 跟我们说说吧 |
| 44 | Yes. | 对 |
| 45 | So she appears to be livid. | 所以她看起来很生气 |
| 46 | She took to social media calling the article a hit piece. | 她曾到社交媒体称文章为"命中篇". |
| 47 | She said, quote, on social media, as I should say, she said, quote, the article published early | 她说,引用,在社交媒体上, 正如我应该说, 她说,引用,引用的文章 早期发表 |
| 48 | this morning is a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and the finest president, White House staff | 今天早上是我和最优秀的总统白宫工作人员 被诬陷的 |
| 49 | and cabinet in history. | 和内阁的历史。 |
| 50 | Significant context was disregarded and much of what I and others said | 重大背景被忽视,我和其他人所说的大部分 |
| 51 | about the team and the president was left out of the story. | 关于团队和总统 被忽略的故事。 |
| 52 | I assume after reading it that this | 我想读完之后... ...这个... |
| 53 | was done to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic and negative narrative about the president | 是为了描绘关于总统的 极其混乱和负面的叙事 |
| 54 | and our team. | 还有我们的团队 |
| 55 | The truth is the Trump White House has already accomplished more in 11 months than | 真相是特朗普白宫 在11个月里已经取得了比 |
| 56 | any other president has accomplished in eight years. | 任何其他总统在八年里都取得了成就。 |
| 57 | And that is due to the unmatched leadership | 这要归功于无与伦比的领导 |
| 58 | and vision of President Trump, for whom I have been honored to work for the better part of a | 以及川普总统的远见卓识 我很荣幸能为他工作 |
| 59 | decade. | 十几岁 |
| 60 | None of this will stop our relentless pursuit of making America great again. | 这一切都无法阻止我们不懈地追求美国再次成为伟大国家。 |
| 61 | Several | 几个 |
| 62 | administration officials have jumped to Wiles' defense, including press secretary Caroline Leavitt, | 行政官员跳跃到威尔斯的辩护, 包括新闻秘书Caroline Leavitt, |
| 63 | who also took to social media and said, quote, chief of staff Susie Wiles has helped President | 并说,引文指出,参谋长苏西·威尔斯帮助了总统 |
| 64 | Trump achieve the most successful first 11 months in office of any president in American history. | 特朗普在美国历史上任何一位总统的任内实现了最成功的头11个月. |
| 65 | President Trump has no greater or more loyal advisor than Susie. | 川普总统没有比苏西更忠诚的顾问. |
| 66 | The entire administration | 整个行政部门 |
| 67 | is grateful for her steady leadership and united fully behind her. | 感谢她的坚定领导和充分团结。 |
| 68 | That at least for the time being | 至少暂时是这样 |
| 69 | appears to be the case, Andrew, with other administration officials also backing Wiles. | Andrew 似乎情况如此 其它政府官员也支持威尔斯 |
| 70 | Willie, thank you. | 威利,谢谢 |
| 71 | That is the CBC's Willie Lowry live in Washington. | 那是CBC的威利·洛里住在华盛顿 |
| 72 | We'll take, we'll take one more question. | 我们再问一个问题 |
| 73 | Mr. Vice President Jacob Bogage from the | 副总统雅各布·博吉先生 |
| 74 | Washington Post. | 华盛顿邮报. |
| 75 | It's good to see you. | 欢喜踊跃. |
| 76 | Good to see you too. | 很高兴见到你 |
| 77 | Merry Christmas. | 圣诞快乐 |
| 78 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 79 | Same to you. | 你也一样。 |
| 80 | Unfortunately, I have to ask a bit of an off topic question from affordability because news | 很不幸,我不得不问一个 与负担能力无关的问题 因为新闻 |
| 81 | events do intervene. | 事件确实会干预。 |
| 82 | And that is the interviews that White House chief of staff Susie Wiles gave | 这就是白宫幕僚长苏西·威尔斯的采访 |
| 83 | to Vanity Fair in which she's quoted as referring to you as, excuse me, and again, not my word, sir, | 荣耀博览会上,她被引用 指你,对不起, 再次,不是我的话,先生, |
| 84 | but a conspiracy theorist of a decade and described your transformation from someone who once opposed | 一个十年的阴谋论者 从一个曾经反对的人那里 描述了你的转变 |
| 85 | President Trump to now his vice president as an act of political expediency. | 作为政治权宜之计,特朗普总统致现在的副总统. |
| 86 | I'd like to give you | 我想给你 |
| 87 | the chance to respond to that, sir. | 有机会回应,长官 |
| 88 | Well, first of all, if, if, uh, if Susie, as I like, I'll, | 好吧,首先,如果,如果,呃, 如果苏西,我喜欢,我会, |
| 89 | I'll trust, I'll trust what you said. | 我会相信你说的话 |
| 90 | I haven't looked at the article. | 我没看那篇文章 |
| 91 | I of course have heard | 我当然听说了 |
| 92 | about it, but conspiracy theorist. | 但是阴谋论者 |
| 93 | Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the | 有时候我是阴谋论者 但我只相信 |
| 94 | conspiracy theories that are true. | 阴谋论是真的 |
| 95 | And by the way, Susie and I have joked in private and in public | 顺便说一句 苏西和我私下和公开开玩笑 |
| 96 | about that for a long time. | 很久以来 |
| 97 | For example, I believed in the crazy conspiracy theory back in 2020 | 比如,我在2020年就相信了疯狂的阴谋论 |
| 98 | that it was stupid to mask three year olds at the height of the COVID pandemic, that we should | 在COVID大流行的高峰期 掩盖3岁的孩子是愚蠢的,我们应该 |
| 99 | actually let them develop some language skills. | 让他们掌握一些语言技能 |
| 100 | You know, I believed in this crazy conspiracy | 你知道,我相信这个疯狂的阴谋 |
| 101 | theory that the media and the government were covering up the fact that Joe Biden was clearly | 媒体和政府掩盖乔·拜登显然 |
| 102 | unable to do the job. | 无法完成任务。 |
| 103 | And I believed in the conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was trying to | 我相信乔·拜登试图 |
| 104 | his political opponents in jail rather than win an argument against his political opponents. | 而不是赢得反对政治对手的争论 |
| 105 | So | 这么说 |
| 106 | at least on some of these conspiracy theories, it turns out that a conspiracy theory is just | 至少在这些阴谋论中 发现一个阴谋论只是 |
| 107 | something that was true six months before the media admitted it. | 这在媒体承认前六个月是真实的。 |
| 108 | And that's, that's my understanding. | 这就是,这是我的理解。 |
| 109 | Now, look, I, I, I do want to say something about Susie though, because again, having not read this | 现在,你看,我,我,我确实想 说一些关于苏西,因为再次,没有读这个 |
| 110 | article, Susie is a person I've come to know very, very well. | 苏西是我认识的人 |
| 111 | And you know, a lot of you probably | 你知道,你们很多人可能 |
| 112 | ask yourself, what is it like behind the scenes? | 问自己,幕后是什么样子? |
| 113 | What's going on actually behind the scenes of the | 到底发生了什么? |
| 114 | Trump administration? | 特朗普政府吗? |
| 115 | And I'll tell you, the president is exactly in private who he is in | 我告诉你,总统是 完全私下的他是谁 |
| 116 | public. | 大众. |
| 117 | Like I'll tell you a little story. | 就像我会告诉你一个小故事。 |
| 118 | A few, maybe actually a week or so ago, I walk into the | 几周前,我走进 |
| 119 | Oval Office and Marco and I are sitting there talking with the president about something. | Oval办公室和我和Marco坐在那里 和总统谈一些事情 |
| 120 | He | |
| 121 | says, stop. | 说,停止。 |
| 122 | And he looks at our shoes and says, you guys have terrible shoes. | 他看着我们的鞋说 你们的鞋很烂 |
| 123 | So he goes and gets | 所以,他去并得到 |
| 124 | a shoe catalog. | 一个鞋类目录。 |
| 125 | And remember this is the Christmas season. | 记住这是圣诞节 |
| 126 | So the president's got some holiday | 总统有个假期 |
| 127 | cheer. | 欢呼声 |
| 128 | He goes and gets a shoe catalog and gets his favorite shoes and orders like four pairs of | 他去拿一个鞋类目录 拿到他最喜欢的鞋和订单 像四双 |
| 129 | shoes for me and four pairs of shoes for Marco because he's like, you know, we need our vice | 鞋子给我,四双鞋子马可 因为他喜欢,你知道,我们需要我们的缺点 |
| 130 | president or secretary of state to look their very best. | 总统或国务大臣都觉得最好 |
| 131 | And you know, then we went back to talking | 你知道,然后我们回到谈话 |
| 132 | about whatever major, you know, international issue we were talking about. | 无论是什么重大,你知道的, 国际问题,我们谈论。 |
| 133 | Again, he is exactly | 再说一遍,他就是 |
| 134 | in private who he is in public. | 在公开场合, |
| 135 | That's not true of most people in Washington, DC. | 华盛顿的大多数人不是这样 |
| 136 | It's not. | 这不是。 |
| 137 | And | 还有 |
| 138 | I've seen so many people who will say one thing to the president's face, Democrats and Republicans, | 我见过这么多人 会当着总统的面说一件事 民主党和共和党人 |
| 139 | and then we'll do the exact opposite behind the scenes. | 然后我们在幕后做完全相反的。 |
| 140 | You know why I really, you know what they | 你知道我为什么,你知道他们 |
| 141 | are. | 对 |
| 142 | And you know why I really love Susie Wiles because Susie is who she is in the president's | 你知道为什么我真的很爱苏西·威尔斯 因为苏西是总统的人选 |
| 143 | presence. | 存在。 |
| 144 | She's the same exact person when the president isn't around. | 当总统不在的时候 她就是那个人 |
| 145 | I've never seen Susie | 我从没见过苏西 |
| 146 | Wiles say something to the president and then go and counteract him or subvert his will | 威尔斯对总统说点什么 然后去反击他 或者颠覆他的意志 |
| 147 | behind the scenes. | 幕后传. |
| 148 | And that's what you want in a staffer. | 这就是你想要的员工。 |
| 149 | Because as much as I love Susie, | 因为我爱苏西 |
| 150 | the American people didn't elect any staffer. | 美国人民没有选举任何工作人员。 |
| 151 | They elected the president of the United States. | 他们选出了美国总统. |
| 152 | And what you want and what you want in a staffer is a person who understands they are there to | 你想要的,你想要的 工作人员是一个人 谁理解他们在那里 |
| 153 | effectuate the will of the American people. | 实现美国人民的意志。 |
| 154 | And they're there to follow the orders of the | 他们在那里听命于 |
| 155 | elected commander in chief of the United States. | 当选美国总司令. |
| 156 | Susie Wiles 我们有分歧 | |
| 157 | We agree on much more than we disagree. | 我们的共识远不止于我们的不同意见。 |
| 158 | But I've never seen her be disloyal to the president of | 但我从未见过她对总统不忠 |
| 159 | the United States. | 美国。 |
| 160 | And that makes her the best White House chief of staff that I think the | 这让她成为了最好的白宫幕僚长 我认为 |
| 161 | president could ask for. | 总统可以要求。 |
| 162 | And the last thing I'll say is if any of us have learned a lesson from | 我最后要说的是 如果我们谁从中吸取教训 |
| 163 | that Vanity Fair article, I hope that the lesson is we should be giving fewer interviews to | 我希望教训是 我们应该减少采访 |
| 164 | mainstream media outlets. | 主流媒体. |
| 165 | So with that lesson internalized, I'm going to stop taking questions | 所以,有了这个教训 内化,我将停止接受问题 |
| 166 | and just leave you with one final note. | 留给你最后一个字条 |
| 167 | And again, it's just a note of gratitude. | 再说一遍,这只是感谢 |
| 168 | This is the coolest job I've ever had. | 这是我做过的最酷的工作 |
| 169 | Agree with us or disagree with us. | 同意或不同意我们的意见。 |
| 170 | I'm sure that | 我敢肯定,这 |
| 171 | every single person in this room made something happen to get me to this job. | 这个房间里的每一个人 都为我找到这份工作而出事了 |
| 172 | You went out there | 你过去的时候 |
| 173 | and voted. | 并投票表决。 |
| 174 | Maybe you persuaded one of your relatives to vote. | 也许你说服了一个亲戚投票 |
| 175 | Maybe even volunteered | 也许甚至自愿 |
| 176 | or knocked on doors or made phone calls for us. | 或者敲门或者给我们打电话 |
| 177 | I will never forget that my job every single day | 我永远不会忘记我每天的工作 |
| 178 | is to make it so that you guys can have a safe and prosperous life in this country that all of us | 让大家在这个国家过上 安全和繁荣的生活 |
| 179 | love. | 爱 |
| 180 | We thank you. | 我们感谢你。 |
| 181 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 182 | I'll say a couple of things on that. | 我会说几件事。 |
| 183 | First of all, as you all saw | 首先,你们都看到了 |
| 184 | on True Social, President Trump is going to be giving a joint address to earn an address to the | 川普总统将发表联合演说, |
| 185 | 9 o'clock Eastern. | 东方九时. |
| 186 | I know you guys will all be tuning in. | 我知道你们都会调整的 |
| 187 | It's going to be a really good | 这将是一个真正的好 |
| 188 | speech. | 说话 |
| 189 | I was just in the Oval Office with the president discussing it. | 我刚在总统办公室讨论 |
| 190 | He's going to talk a | 他会说 |
| 191 | lot about the accomplishments over the past 11 months, all that he's done to bring our country | 有关过去11个月的成就, 他为带来我们国家所做的一切 |
| 192 | back to greatness and all he continues to plan to do to continue delivering for the American people | 回到伟大 他继续计划做的一切 继续为美国人民服务 |
| 193 | over the next three years. | 未来三年 |
| 194 | As for the Vanity Fair article, Michael, I'll take your question directly. | 至于《名利场》的文章 迈克尔 我直接回答你的问题 |
| 195 | This is, unfortunately, another example of disingenuous reporting where you have a reporter | 不幸的是,这是另一个不诚实的报告的例子,你有一个记者 |
| 196 | who took the chief of staff's words wildly out of context, did not include the context those | 他们疯狂地把参谋长的话断章取义,没有包括上下文。 |
| 197 | conversations were had within. | 里面有交谈 |
| 198 | And then further, I think the most egregious part of this article | 还有,我觉得这篇文章最令人发指的部分 |
| 199 | was the bias of omission that was clearly present. | 明显存在的遗漏偏差。 |
| 200 | And we see a lot of this when dealing with the | 当我们处理这些 |
| 201 | media every day. | 媒体每天。 |
| 202 | You will leave out important context, leave out comments and facts. | 你们将不谈重要的情况,不谈评论和事实。 |
| 203 | You know, | 你知道吗, |
| 204 | many people in this building spoke with that reporter and those comments were never included | 这栋楼里很多人都和那个记者谈过了 而这些评论从未被收录 |
| 205 | in the story, probably because it didn't push this false narrative of chaos and confusion that | 在故事中,可能因为它没有推 这个虚假的描述 混乱和混乱 |
| 206 | the reporter was clearly trying to push. | 记者显然想推车 |
| 207 | So what I'll say about our chief of staff, as you've seen | 那么,我会说什么 关于我们的参谋长, 正如你看到的 |
| 208 | from not just myself, but also the entire cabinet in a groundswell of support from people on Capitol | 不仅我,还有整个内阁 都城的人支持我 |
| 209 | Hill who don't even work in this building about how incredible Susie Wiles has been to President | 希尔甚至没有在这个大楼工作 关于如何令人难以置信的苏西·威尔斯一直 总统 |
| 210 | Trump. | 特朗普报. |
| 211 | And he's been able to accomplish so much because of his leadership and his tenacity, | 由于他的领导才能和坚韧不拔的毅力,他能够完成这么多任务, |
| 212 | but also because of Chief of Staff Wiles's leadership and her ability to effectuate his agenda. | 也因为总参谋长威尔斯的领导 以及她实现他议程的能力 |
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