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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | We turn now to Kevin Hassett. | 现在轮到凯文·哈塞特 |
| 0:01 | He is the director of the National Economic Council | 他是国家经济委员会主任 |
| 0:04 | and one of President Trump's top advisors. | 也是特朗普总统的最高顾问之一 |
| 0:06 | He's also very popular on that driveway | 他在车道上也很受欢迎 |
| 0:09 | where I'm usually alongside about a dozen reporters. | 我通常跟十几个记者在一起 |
| 0:12 | So Kevin, thank you so much for your time this morning. | 凯文,非常感谢你今天早上抽空来 |
| 0:16 | I wanna start with trade | 我想从贸易开始 |
| 0:17 | because there's a big deadline coming up on Wednesday. | 因为周三有个大期限 |
| 0:21 | As you know, that 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs | 如你所知,对等关税暂停90天 |
| 0:24 | that the president announced back in April is set to end. | 总统在4月份宣布结束 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 1 | We turn now to Kevin Hassett. | 现在轮到凯文·哈塞特 |
| 2 | He is the director of the National Economic Council | 他是国家经济委员会主任 |
| 3 | and one of President Trump's top advisors. | 也是特朗普总统的最高顾问之一 |
| 4 | He's also very popular on that driveway | 他在车道上也很受欢迎 |
| 5 | where I'm usually alongside about a dozen reporters. | 我通常跟十几个记者在一起 |
| 6 | So Kevin, thank you so much for your time this morning. | 凯文,非常感谢你今天早上抽空来 |
| 7 | I wanna start with trade | 我想从贸易开始 |
| 8 | because there's a big deadline coming up on Wednesday. | 因为周三有个大期限 |
| 9 | As you know, that 90-day pause on reciprocal tariffs | 如你所知,对等关税暂停90天 |
| 10 | that the president announced back in April is set to end. | 总统在4月份宣布结束 |
| 11 | So far, the U.S. has announced a few deals, | 到目前为止,美国已经宣布了一些交易, |
| 12 | the UK, Vietnam, and you're inching closer | 英国,越南,你越来越近了 |
| 13 | to a final agreement with China. | 与中国达成最后协议。 |
| 14 | Do you expect to get any more deals done | 你还想得到更多的交易吗? |
| 15 | with America's biggest trading partners by Wednesday? | 星期三之前 与美国最大的贸易伙伴? |
| 16 | Yeah, first, I do have to take a pause | 是啊,首先,我必须暂停一下 |
| 17 | and share your thoughts and prayers | 并分享你们的心思和祈祷, |
| 18 | with the people of Texas. | 和德克萨斯人在一起 |
| 19 | It's an incredible, heartbreaking story, | 这是一个不可思议,令人心碎的故事, |
| 20 | and Kristi Noem and the president | 克里斯蒂·诺姆和总统 |
| 21 | have instructed the federal government | 已经指示联邦政府 |
| 22 | to throw everything they've got at helping the survivors | 尽他们所能帮助幸存者 |
| 23 | and helping clean up that place. | 并帮助清理这个地方。 |
| 24 | So anyway, I'm really heartbroken today | 总之,我今天真的很伤心 |
| 25 | to see these stories, | 看这些故事, |
| 26 | and I want you to know that in the White House, | 我想让你知道 在白宫, |
| 27 | everybody is putting every effort they can | 大家都尽力了 |
| 28 | into helping the people of Texas today. | 今天帮助德州人民 |
| 29 | On trade, there's going to be quite a bit of news this week, | 关于贸易,这周会有很多消息 |
| 30 | and I think the headline of the news | 我觉得新闻的头条 |
| 31 | is that there are going to be deals that are finalized. | 将会有最后的交易 |
| 32 | There are a whole number that James and Greer | 詹姆士和葛瑞尔的号码 |
| 33 | has negotiated with foreign governments, | 与外国政府谈判, |
| 34 | and then there are gonna be letters | 然后会有信 |
| 35 | that are sent to countries saying, | 他们被派到各国, |
| 36 | here's how we think it ought to go | 我们是这样认为的 |
| 37 | because the deals aren't advanced enough. | 因为交易不够先进 |
| 38 | And the headline is going to be | 标题是 |
| 39 | that countries are agreeing around the world | 世界各国正在达成协议 |
| 40 | to open their markets up to our products | 打开我们的市场 |
| 41 | and to allow us to put some kind of tariff | 并允许我们设置某种关税 |
| 42 | on their products when they come into the US. | 当他们进入美国时, |
| 43 | And exactly what the numbers will be | 确切的数字是什么 |
| 44 | will be things that you'll find out in the news this week. | 这星期新闻会告诉你的 |
| 45 | And Kevin, you said there are going to be deals. | Kevin 你说会有交易的 |
| 46 | For those really important trading partners, | 对于这些真正重要的贸易伙伴, |
| 47 | if there's not a deal by Wednesday, | 如果星期三之前没有交易 |
| 48 | is the president going to extend this pause? | 总统会延长暂停时间吗? |
| 49 | You know, the United States is always willing to talk | 你知道,美国总是愿意谈 |
| 50 | to everybody about everything that's going on in the world, | 告诉大家世界上的一切 |
| 51 | and there are deadlines, and there are things | 有期限,有事情 |
| 52 | that are close, and so maybe things | 关系很密切,所以也许 |
| 53 | will push past the deadline, or maybe they won't. | 否则他们可能不会 |
| 54 | In the end, the president's going to make that judgment. | 最终,总统会做出这样的判断. |
| 55 | And you also mentioned those letters | 你还提到那些信 |
| 56 | that will start going out tomorrow, | 那明天就会出去了 |
| 57 | according to President Trump. | 根据川普总统的说法 |
| 58 | He said about 10 to 12 countries will receive them. | 他说,大约10至12个国家将接受这些援助。 |
| 59 | Can you tell us who's gonna get one and what they say? | 你能告诉我们谁能得到一个 和他们说什么? |
| 60 | I can't, because again, the part of the letter | 我不能,因为,再次, 字母的部分 |
| 61 | that could be happening, right, | 这有可能发生,对吗, |
| 62 | is that we're close to a deal, | 即我们接近交易, |
| 63 | we're not really satisfied with the progress | 我们对进展并不满意 |
| 64 | that we're making at the deal, | 我们正在做交易, |
| 65 | and so we're saying, okay, fine, | 所以我们说,好吧,好吧, |
| 66 | we're gonna send a letter, | 我们要发一封信 |
| 67 | but maybe you get a deal at the last minute too. | 但也许最后一刻你也会达成协议的 |
| 68 | Until we see everything that plays out, | 直到我们看到一切发生, |
| 69 | I think that we need to just hold our fire | 我认为我们需要保持我们的火力 |
| 70 | and watch for the news this week. | 看这星期的新闻。 |
| 71 | Is it fair to say that those notices | 这么说公平吗? |
| 72 | are gonna go to our smaller trading partners | 将去我们的小贸易伙伴 |
| 73 | as you negotiate with our bigger ones? | 你和我们大个子谈判的时候 |
| 74 | I think that it could be that it'll be both, | 我认为,这可能是 这将是两者, |
| 75 | but also don't forget that when we have great trade deals, | 但别忘了当我们有大交易时 |
| 76 | our smaller trading partners | 我们较小的贸易伙伴 |
| 77 | could become much bigger trading partners. | 可以成为更大的贸易伙伴。 |
| 78 | And that's, I think, one of the reasons | 这也是,我想,原因之一 |
| 79 | why countries are racing to set deals up with us | 为什么各国竞相与我们交易 |
| 80 | ahead of the deadline. | 超过期限。 |
| 81 | I have to ask you about the deadlines, Kevin, | 我要问你最后期限,凯文 |
| 82 | to make these deals, because you just mentioned | 因为你刚刚提到 |
| 83 | you're always open. | 你总是开放。 |
| 84 | The president said there's not really any flexibility left | 总统说,真的没有 任何灵活性 |
| 85 | between now and Wednesday. | 从现在到星期三 |
| 86 | Less than two weeks ago, | 不到两周前, |
| 87 | the Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant, | 财政部长斯科特·贝桑特 |
| 88 | said that deals would be wrapped up by Labor Day. | 说交易将在劳动节结束 |
| 89 | So I wonder, how can companies plan | 所以我想知道,公司如何计划 |
| 90 | if the goalposts keep moving? | 如果门柱继续移动? |
| 91 | How can countries negotiate | 各国如何谈判 |
| 92 | if they don't even know how much time they have left? | 如果他们甚至不知道他们还剩多少时间? |
| 93 | Right, well, the rough outlines of the deals | 交易的大致轮廓 |
| 94 | are becoming clear to everybody, | 所有人都开始明白 |
| 95 | because we have some deals like the UK and the Vietnam deal | 因为我们有些交易 比如英国和越南的交易 |
| 96 | that are starting to be, I guess, | 这开始,我想, |
| 97 | guidelines for what might happen. | 关于可能发生的情况的准则。 |
| 98 | But one of the things that we're seeing | 但我们看到的一件事 |
| 99 | that's really interesting to me | 这对我来说真的很有趣 |
| 100 | is that people are just on-shoring production | 是人们只是上岸生产 |
| 101 | of the U.S. at a record rate. | 美国以创纪录的速度。 |
| 102 | And so we've had record job creation, | 所以我们创造了创纪录的就业机会, |
| 103 | record capital spending, | 记录资本支出, |
| 104 | and this is even ahead of the big, beautiful bill. | 这甚至比大而漂亮的法案还早 |
| 105 | And so I think what's happening is that people | 所以我认为现在的情况是人们 |
| 106 | are responding to President Trump's potential threats | 特朗普总统的潜在威胁 |
| 107 | to have high tariffs on countries | * 对各国征收高关税 |
| 108 | by moving their activity here into the U.S., | 把他们的活动转移到美国 |
| 109 | which is creating jobs, more than two million jobs | 创造了200多万个就业机会 |
| 110 | since he took office, and raising wages. | 自从他上任, 和增加工资。 |
| 111 | Wage growth is heading up towards | 工资增长正走向 |
| 112 | the really, really high pinnacles that we saw in 2017. | 我们在2017年看到的非常,非常高的顶峰。 |
| 113 | And so I think there's a race right now | 所以我觉得现在有一场比赛 |
| 114 | to get activity into the U.S. | 让活动进入美国 |
| 115 | And in part, that race has been kicked off | 比赛被淘汰了 |
| 116 | by President Trump. | 特朗普总统 |
| 117 | I remember after these reciprocal tariffs were announced, | 我记得在宣布对等关税之后 |
| 118 | you told me that there were about 15 deals | 你告诉我有大约15个交易 |
| 119 | that countries were bringing to the president. | 国家正在给总统带来。 |
| 120 | How close, if you could give us any number at all, | 多近,如果你能给我们任何号码, |
| 121 | what number are we gonna see this week? | 这周我们要看几号? |
| 122 | Yeah, you'll have to get that from James | 是啊,你得从詹姆斯那里得到这个 |
| 123 | and then the president. | 然后是总统 |
| 124 | I think that we've seen lots of deals | 我觉得我们见过很多交易 |
| 125 | that have been finalized by our negotiators, | 我们的谈判者最后敲定了 |
| 126 | and then the president finds things | 然后总统发现一些东西 |
| 127 | that could make them better. | 那会让他们更好 |
| 128 | And so I'm not gonna get ahead of the president | 所以我不会领先总统 |
| 129 | on the number of deals. | 关于交易数量。 |
| 130 | Okay, thanks, Kevin. | 好的,谢谢,凯文。 |
| 131 | We'll look out for that. | 我们会注意的 |
| 132 | I wanna move now to the one big, beautiful bill | 我现在想搬到一个大而漂亮的帐单上 |
| 133 | that, of course, the president signed into law | 当然,总统签署了法律 |
| 134 | on Independence Day. | 在独立日。 |
| 135 | You have it, and now you have to pay for it. | 你拥有它,现在你必须付出代价。 |
| 136 | And there's a consensus that this bill adds | 该法案增加了一个共识 |
| 137 | tremendously to the deficit. | 严重到赤字。 |
| 138 | I know that you are so familiar with these numbers. | 我知道你很熟悉这些数字 |
| 139 | The Yale Budget Lab estimates it will add | 耶鲁预算实验室估计会增加 |
| 140 | three trillion to the debt. | 三万亿还债. |
| 141 | The tax foundation says this tax portion of the bill | 税基说法案的这个税部分 |
| 142 | could also add three trillion to the deficit. | 赤字还会增加3万亿美元。 |
| 143 | The Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, | 负责的联邦预算委员会, |
| 144 | which factors in interest on the debt, | 哪些因素是债务利息因素, |
| 145 | says it could add up to $5 trillion over the next decade. | 说在未来的十年里可以增加到5万亿美元。 |
| 146 | And on this very program, even Speaker Johnson | 在这个节目里,甚至约翰逊议长 |
| 147 | answered in the affirmative when asked | 当被问到时,回答为肯定 |
| 148 | if this bill would add over $4 trillion to the deficit. | 如果这项法案将增加4万亿美元以上的赤字。 |
| 149 | I know that the administration says the bill | 我知道政府说法案 |
| 150 | will actually shrink the deficit by $1.5 trillion. | 赤字将减少1.5万亿美元 |
| 151 | Help me understand why there is such a drastic difference | 帮我理解为什么会有如此巨大的差别 |
| 152 | between your number and all those others. | 在你的号码和其他号码之间 |
| 153 | Well, first of all, let's remember that science | 首先,让我们记住科学 |
| 154 | is not democracy, truth is not democracy. | 这不是民主,真理不是民主。 |
| 155 | Our estimates are based on modeling that we used last time | 我们的估算是基于我们上次使用的模型 |
| 156 | when I was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers | 当我担任经济顾问委员会主席时 |
| 157 | to say what would happen if we had a bill, | 说如果我们有帐单会怎么样 |
| 158 | how much growth we would get. | 有多少增长,我们会得到。 |
| 159 | And we said, and we were criticized soundly, | 我们说,我们受到批评 |
| 160 | that we would get 3% growth. | 我们会得到3%的增长。 |
| 161 | And we even had the really technical macroeconomic models | 我们甚至有真正的技术 宏观经济模型 |
| 162 | that said that we would get 3% growth. | 说我们会得到3%的增长。 |
| 163 | We run the same models through this tax bill. | 我们通过这个税单运行同样的模式。 |
| 164 | It's even better. | 更无比也. |
| 165 | And what we're seeing is that if you get 3% growth again, | 我们所看到的是,如果你再次得到3%的增长, |
| 166 | then that's four trillion more in revenue than the CBO | 那比CBO的收入多四万亿 |
| 167 | and these other bodies are giving us credit for. | 并且这些其它机构 给我们的功劳。 |
| 168 | They have been wrong in the past, | 他们过去是错的, |
| 169 | and they're being wrong again in our belief. | 他们又犯了错误 在我们的信念。 |
| 170 | But the thing that disappoints me | 但这件事让我失望 |
| 171 | is that if I put out a model, | 如果我拿出一个模型, |
| 172 | and I say, hey, here's what's gonna happen, | 我说,嘿,接下来会发生什么, |
| 173 | we're gonna get 3% growth. | 我们会得到3%的增长。 |
| 174 | And then it turns out it's one and a half percent growth, | 然后结果发现,这是1%半的增长, |
| 175 | then as an academic economist, as a scientist, | 然后作为一个学术经济学家,作为一个科学家, |
| 176 | then it's my duty to say, what did I get wrong? | 那么我有责任说,我错了什么? |
| 177 | What did my model miss? | 我的模特错过了什么? |
| 178 | These people aren't doing that. | 这些人不会这么做的 |
| 179 | And that's the thing that I find disappointing | 这也是我失望的事 |
| 180 | because we put peer-reviewed academic stuff on the table, | 因为我们把同行评审的学术材料放在桌上, |
| 181 | said we're gonna get that 3% growth, | 说我们会得到3%的增长, |
| 182 | and then we got it right last time, | 然后我们得到了它的权利 上次, |
| 183 | and we believe we're gonna get it right this time. | 而我们相信我们这次会得到正确的。 |
| 184 | But if you think that 1.8% growth | 但如果你认为增长1.8% |
| 185 | is what's gonna happen over the next 10 years, | 未来10年内会发生什么 |
| 186 | then you should agree with the CBO number. | 那你应该同意CBO的号码 |
| 187 | But there's another part of the CBO number | 但CBO号码还有另一部分 |
| 188 | that you need to worry about. | 你需要担心。 |
| 189 | And that is that if we don't pass the bill, | 这就是如果我们不通过法案, |
| 190 | that it's the biggest tax hike in history. | 这是历史上最大的税收上涨。 |
| 191 | And with that big tax hike, | 加上税费的上涨 |
| 192 | then of course we would have a recession. | 当然,我们会有一个衰退。 |
| 193 | The CEA says that we'd have about a 4% drop in GDP | 中央能源局说,我们国内生产总值会下降4% |
| 194 | and lose nine million jobs. | 失去九百万个工作 |
| 195 | If we had a 4% drop in GDP and we lost nine million jobs, | 如果我们的国内生产总值下降了4% 而我们失去了900万个工作, |
| 196 | what would happen to the deficit? | 赤字会怎样? |
| 197 | And so I don't think that the CBO has a very strong record. | 所以我不认为CBO有很强的记录. |
| 198 | I don't think that these places have a very strong record. | 我不认为这些地方的记录非常有力. |
| 199 | And what they need to do is get back to the basics | 他们需要做的是回到基础 |
| 200 | of looking at macroeconomic models. | 研究宏观经济模式。 |
| 201 | There's a really famous macroeconomist survivor | 有一个非常有名的宏观经济学家幸存者 |
| 202 | named Jim Stock. | 我叫吉姆・斯托克 |
| 203 | They should go back and read everything Jim Stock | 他们应该回去看所有的东西 Jim Stock |
| 204 | has written for the last 15 years | 已经写了15年 |
| 205 | and fold those into their models | 并把这些放在他们的模型里, |
| 206 | and then maybe we could talk. | 然后也许我们可以谈谈。 |
| 207 | I wanna talk to you, Kevin, about another number | 我想和你谈谈,凯文 关于另一个号码 |
| 208 | that I know you and the president disagree with, | 我知道你和总统不同意 |
| 209 | but that Democrats and many Republicans are worried about. | 但民主党和许多共和党人都担心 |
| 210 | And that's the CBO's projection | 这是CBO的投影 |
| 211 | that as many as 12 million Americans | 多达1200万美国人 |
| 212 | could lose Medicaid coverage because of this law. | 可能因为这项法律而失去医疗补助。 |
| 213 | What is the NEC's estimate | 国家选委的估计是什么? |
| 214 | for how many people could lose coverage? | 有多少人会失去保险? |
| 215 | Well, yeah, let's unbundle that a little bit | 嗯,是的,让我们拆开一点点 |
| 216 | because first on the CBO coverage, so what are we doing? | 我们在做什么? |
| 217 | So what we're doing is we're asking for a work requirement, | 所以,我们正在做的是 我们要求一个工作要求, |
| 218 | but the work requirement is that you need to be | 但工作要求是,你必须 |
| 219 | looking for work or even doing volunteer work | 寻找工作,甚至做志愿工作 |
| 220 | and you don't need to do it | 你不需要这么做 |
| 221 | until your kids are 14 or older. | 直到你的孩子14岁或14岁以上。 |
| 222 | And so the idea that that's gonna cause | 所以这个想法会引起 |
| 223 | a massive hemorrhaging in availability of insurance | 保险供应严重出血 |
| 224 | doesn't make a lot of sense to us. | 对我们来说没什么意义 |
| 225 | And that if you look at the CBO numbers, | 如果你看看CBO的号码 |
| 226 | if you look at the big numbers, | 如果你看大数字, |
| 227 | they say that people are gonna lose insurance, | 他们说,人们会失去保险, |
| 228 | about five million of those | 其中约500万 |
| 229 | are people who have other insurance. | 是有其他保险的人。 |
| 230 | There are people who have two types of insurance | 有两种保险的人 |
| 231 | and so therefore if they lose one, they're still insured. | 因此,如果他们失去了一个, 他们仍然有保险。 |
| 232 | And so the CBO numbers on that side | 那边的CBO数字 |
| 233 | don't make any sense to us at all, | 对我们没有任何意义, |
| 234 | but on the other side, go back to 2017 | 但另一边,回2017年 |
| 235 | when we had work requirements for Obamacare | 当我们有工作需要 奥巴马护理 |
| 236 | and they said that we lose about four million insured | 他们说我们损失了四百万的保险金 |
| 237 | between 2017 and 2019 and about double that | 2017年到2019年,大约翻了一番 |
| 238 | over the next 10 years. | 未来10年。 |
| 239 | And in fact, the number of insured went up quite a bit | 事实上,投保人数上升了很多 |
| 240 | by more than 10 million over those two years | 在这两年中增加1 000多万 |
| 241 | because the bottom line is the best way to get insurance | 因为底线是保险的最佳途径 |
| 242 | is to get a job. | 找份工作 找份工作 |
| 243 | And we've got a big, beautiful bill | 我们有一个大,美丽的比尔 |
| 244 | that's gonna create a lot of job creation | 这会创造很多就业机会 |
| 245 | and a lot of insurance | 和很多保险 |
| 246 | and the CBO is just not accounting for that. | 而CBO只是不考虑这一点。 |
| 247 | And again, they need to go back | 再说一遍,他们需要回去 |
| 248 | and look at all the things that they got wrong. | 看看他们搞错了什么 |
| 249 | You realize that they're underestimating Medicaid spending | 你知道他们低估了医疗补助开支 |
| 250 | by 20%. | 以20%计。 |
| 251 | They should look back at all the things they got wrong | 他们应该回顾一下所有错误 |
| 252 | and explain what they're gonna do | 并解释他们要做什么 |
| 253 | to get it right in the future and to do a better job. | 将来要做好它 做一个更好的工作 |
| 254 | And if they do that, we'll take them more seriously. | 如果他们这样做,我们将更认真地对待他们。 |
| 255 | But right now, I don't think any serious thinker | 但现在,我不认为 任何严肃的思想家 |
| 256 | could take them seriously | 可以认真对待他们 |
| 257 | because they've been so wrong for so long. | 因为他们已经错了这么久。 |
| 258 | If you go back to when President Obama passed Obamacare, | 如果你回到奥巴马总统通过奥巴马护理时 |
| 259 | they got every single number there wrong | 他们把每个号码都弄错了 |
| 260 | about how many people would get private insurance | 关于有多少人会得到私人保险 |
| 261 | and how few people would get Medicaid and so on. | 以及有多少人会得到医疗补助等等。 |
| 262 | And so their record in this modeling space | 所以他们在这个模拟空间的记录 |
| 263 | is about as bad as it's possible to be. | 尽可能的糟糕 |
| 264 | In fact, you could kind of roll the roulette wheel | 事实上,你可以把轮盘卷起来 |
| 265 | and come up with a better set of numbers | 提出一个更好的数字 |
| 266 | of a better track record history than CBO. | 比CBO有更好的历史记录 |
| 267 | Kevin, what about the enhanced subsidies? | 凯文,增加补贴怎么办? |
| 268 | Is that number wrong too | 那个号码是不是也错了 |
| 269 | that the ACA allows about 705 dollars | ACA允许约705美元 |
| 270 | for people to help pay for their health insurance? | 帮助人们支付医疗保险? |
| 271 | That doesn't sound like the waste, fraud, and abuse | 这听起来不像是浪费、欺诈和虐待 |
| 272 | that I know you and the president | 我认识你和总统 |
| 273 | have talked about eliminating. | 已经谈到消灭。 |
| 274 | That just sounds like people who cannot afford coverage | 听起来像是买不起保险的人 |
| 275 | and now it's going to be even more so | 现在情况会更糟 |
| 276 | with these subsidies gone. | 这些补贴被取消。 |
| 277 | Right, well, if you're looking at the change | 好吧,如果你看的变化 |
| 278 | in the tax on the providers, | 在对供养者的税收中, |
| 279 | which is something that has been a key talking point | 这是关键话题 |
| 280 | for the Democrats, they say that that's gonna close down | 对民主党来说,他们说那会关闭 |
| 281 | rural hospitals. | 农村医院。 |
| 282 | What has happened is that rather than let the states, | 发生的事情是 而不是让各州, |
| 283 | the states have this game | 各州都有这个游戏 |
| 284 | where they give a dollar to a hospital | 他们给医院一块钱 |
| 285 | and then the federal government matches the dollar | 然后,联邦政府 匹配美元 |
| 286 | and then the state taxes some of the dollar away. | 然后州税 部分美元离开。 |
| 287 | In other words, that we have an agreement | 换句话说,我们有一个协议 |
| 288 | with the states that they're gonna match | 和他们将要匹配的状态 |
| 289 | but then they have this trick | 但他们有这个把戏 |
| 290 | where they tax the hospitals after they give them money | 他们给医院钱后在那里征税 |
| 291 | so really it's the federal government giving them the money | 其实是联邦政府给他们钱的 |
| 292 | and that's why we've been overspending Medicaid | 这就是为什么我们一直 超支医疗补助 |
| 293 | by 20% since this trick started happening. | 自从这个把戏开始以来 20% |
| 294 | And so what we've done is that we've put a haircut on that | 所以,我们所做的是,我们已经做了一个发型 |
| 295 | but we've also put $50 billion into a trust fund | 但我们也投入了500亿元的信托基金 |
| 296 | to make sure that the rural hospitals | 确保农村医院 |
| 297 | are there to treat the sick. | 是用来治疗病人的 |
| 298 | And so I think this is approved reform, | 所以我认为这是批准的改革, |
| 299 | it's sound budgetary politics | 这是健全的预算政治 |
| 300 | and I think that nobody's gonna lose their insurance. | 我认为没有人会失去他们的保险。 |
| 301 | Kevin Hassett, 我们会看着那个年代 | |
| 302 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 303 | Really appreciate your time. | 非常感谢你的时间。 |
| 304 | If I get it wrong, we'll check | 如果我弄错了,我们会检查 |
| 305 | and we'll talk about why I got it wrong, I promise. | 我们来谈谈为什么我搞错了 我保证 |
| 306 | Thank you, we'll have you back. | 谢谢,我们会让你回来的 |
| 307 | Thank you very much, Kevin. | 非常感谢,凯文 |
| 308 | Thanks. | 谢谢 |
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