实战练英文 | 平定以伊战争，促使北约国家团结，川普势头正旺
实战练英文 | 平定以伊战争，促使北约国家团结，川普势头正旺，北约秘书长忘情叫他 "Daddy"，卢比奥忍笑到快内伤｜川普不忘一一点名现场左媒是 杂x、假新闻、
发布于 2026-01-15 · 时长 20:43字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:00 | Deborah Haynes from Sky News. | "天空新闻"的黛博拉·海恩斯. |
| 0:03 | Mark Rutter, the NATO chief, who is your friend, he called | 马克・鲁特,北约的首领, 他是你的朋友,他打电话给 |
| 0:07 | you daddy earlier. | 刚才你老爸 |
| 0:10 | Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children? | 你是否把北约盟国视为儿童? |
| 0:14 | No, he likes me. | 不 他喜欢我 |
| 0:15 | I think he likes me. | 我觉得他喜欢我 |
| 0:16 | If he doesn't, I'll let you know. | 如果他不这样做,我会告诉你。 |
| 0:18 | I'll come back | 我会回来的 |
| 0:18 | and I'll hit him hard. | 我会狠狠揍他一顿 |
| 0:19 | Okay? | 好吗? |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Deborah Haynes from Sky News. | "天空新闻"的黛博拉·海恩斯. |
| 2 | Mark Rutter, the NATO chief, who is your friend, he called | 马克・鲁特,北约的首领, 他是你的朋友,他打电话给 |
| 3 | you daddy earlier. | 刚才你老爸 |
| 4 | Do you regard your NATO allies as kind of children? | 你是否把北约盟国视为儿童? |
| 5 | No, he likes me. | 不 他喜欢我 |
| 6 | I think he likes me. | 我觉得他喜欢我 |
| 7 | If he doesn't, I'll let you know. | 如果他不这样做,我会告诉你。 |
| 8 | I'll come back | 我会回来的 |
| 9 | and I'll hit him hard. | 我会狠狠揍他一顿 |
| 10 | Okay? | 好吗? |
| 11 | No? | 是吗? |
| 12 | He did. | 没错 |
| 13 | He did it very affectionately. | 他做了非常亲切。 |
| 14 | Daddy, you're | 爸爸,你这是 |
| 15 | my daddy. | 我的父亲。 |
| 16 | We're with them all the way. | 我们一直和他们在一起 |
| 17 | I mean, if you take a look at the numbers, we're with them | 我的意思是,如果你看一下数字, 我们与他们在一起 |
| 18 | and they have very big things to announce today. | 他们今天有大事要宣布 |
| 19 | I don't know if you've taken the vote | 我不知道你有没有投票 |
| 20 | or you're going to take the vote, but I've been asking them to go up to 5% for a number | 或者你要投票 但我一直要求他们把投票率提高到5% |
| 21 | of years and they're going up to 5%. | 年,他们要升至5%。 |
| 22 | That's a big, from 2%. | 这是很大,从2%。 |
| 23 | And a lot of people didn't | 很多人没有 |
| 24 | even pay the 2%. | 甚至支付2%。 |
| 25 | So I think that's going to be very big news. | 所以,我认为这将是 一个非常大的消息。 |
| 26 | NATO is going to become | 北约即将成为 |
| 27 | very strong with us and I appreciate doing it. | 与我们非常强壮,我很感激这样做。 |
| 28 | Perhaps you want to talk about it? | 也许你想谈谈吗? |
| 29 | Yeah, absolutely. | 当然 |
| 30 | Let me first, before we go to spending, I just want to recognize your | 让我先说,在开销前,我想认出你 |
| 31 | decisive action on Iran. | 对伊朗采取果断行动。 |
| 32 | You are a man of strength, but you're also a man of peace. | 尔时善财菩萨亦复如是. |
| 33 | And the fact that you are now also successful in getting this ceasefire done between Israel | 现在你们也成功地实现了以色列之间的停火 |
| 34 | and Iran, I really want to commend you for that. | 和伊朗,我真的要赞扬你这一点。 |
| 35 | And I think this is important for the | 我认为这对 |
| 36 | whole world. | 整个世界 |
| 37 | Then on spending, it's absolutely true. | 然后在支出上,这是绝对真实的。 |
| 38 | I want to state here, without President | 我想在这里说,没有总统 |
| 39 | Trump, this would not have happened. | 川普,这不会发生。 |
| 40 | In three stages, when you became president in 2016-2017, | 三个阶段 当你在2016-2017年成为总统时 |
| 41 | you forced Europeans and Canadians to pay more. | 你强迫欧洲人和加拿大人付更多钱 |
| 42 | At this moment, the result of that phase | 此时此刻,这一阶段的结果 |
| 43 | is one trillion extra aggregate defense spending by the Canadians and the Europeans. | 是加拿大人和欧洲人加起来的一万亿美元国防开支。 |
| 44 | Then came | 然后来了 |
| 45 | phase two, when you became president in January of last year. | 第二阶段,当你在去年1月成为总统。 |
| 46 | Phase two is that all the countries, | 第二阶段是所有国家, |
| 47 | not yet on 2%, have now committed to the 2%. | 尚未达到2%,现在已承诺达到2%。 |
| 48 | This is the old goal from Wales in 2014. | 这是2014年威尔士的老目标. |
| 49 | Seven | 七个 |
| 50 | were not on 2%. | 没有在2%。 |
| 51 | Some were saying somewhere in the 2030s. | 有些人在20世纪30年代的某个地方说。 |
| 52 | Now, this year, all of them, | 今年,他们所有人 |
| 53 | including Canada, including Italy, including Belgium, they have all now committed to the | 他们包括加拿大,包括意大利,包括比利时,现在都承诺支持《公约》。 |
| 54 | 2%。 2%。 | |
| 55 | And now comes the big splash. | 现在,大喷出。 |
| 56 | Today, we will decide to go to 5%. | 今天,我们将决定去5%。 |
| 57 | We have to keep ourselves | 我们必须保持自己 |
| 58 | safe from our adversaries, but also because it is fair to equalize with the United States. | 也因为与美国平等是公平的 |
| 59 | With this 5%, the Europeans and the Canadians will equalize their defense spending with | 加上5%,欧洲人和加拿大人 将他们的国防开支与 |
| 60 | the United States. | 美国。 |
| 61 | So, this is not about American taxpayers paying more. | 所以,这不是关于美国纳税人支付更多。 |
| 62 | This is about | 这是关于 |
| 63 | Europeans, Canadians paying more. | 欧洲人,加拿大人多花钱 |
| 64 | And again, this would not have happened. | 再说一遍,这不会发生。 |
| 65 | I'm really saying | 我说真的 |
| 66 | this here, and some people might criticize me, but then when I speak with them, they | 这里有人可能会批评我 但当我和他们谈话时 |
| 67 | all say, yes, you're right. | 都说,是的,你是对的。 |
| 68 | This would not have happened if you would not have been elected | 如果你不当选就不会这样 |
| 69 | in 2016 and re-elected last year and back into office in January. | 2016年连任,去年1月复任. |
| 70 | So, I want to thank | 所以,我想感谢 |
| 71 | you. | 你们 |
| 72 | Well, thank you very much. | 非常感谢 |
| 73 | It's a great victory for everybody, I think. | 我想这对每个人都是伟大的胜利 |
| 74 | And we will be equalized | 我们将平等 |
| 75 | very shortly, and that's the way it has to be. | 很快,这是必须的。 |
| 76 | It's going to be a lot of money, too. | 将谓大财也. |
| 77 | A lot of defense. | 甚处防御. |
| 78 | It's trillions, actually. | 其实是几万亿 |
| 79 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 80 | And we have a great relationship. | 我们的关系很好 |
| 81 | And we've had a great relationship from the beginning. | 我们从一开始就有了良好的关系。 |
| 82 | Highly respected man. | 受人尊敬的人。 |
| 83 | And yeah, we appreciate you being here, too, everybody. | 是的,我们也很感激你在这里,大家。 |
| 84 | We really | 我们真的 |
| 85 | do. | 说吧 |
| 86 | We have a tremendous group of people on my left and a tremendous group of people on | 我左边有一大群人 还有一大群人 |
| 87 | my right. | 我的权利。 |
| 88 | They might be even better than my people. | 他们可能比我的人更好。 |
| 89 | No. | 没有 |
| 90 | Let's have a fight. | 师便打. |
| 91 | Let's figure it out. | 师便解. |
| 92 | Anyway, but we appreciate it. | 无论如何,但我们很感激。 |
| 93 | And I think | 我觉得 |
| 94 | we've had a tremendous relationship, Mark and I, and we've really worked on this subject | 我们的关系很融洽,马克和我, 我们确实在研究这个课题 |
| 95 | for a long time. | 长久以来 |
| 96 | When Biden was here, it just died. | 当拜登在这里的时候,它刚刚死了。 |
| 97 | It just died like everything else died. | 它就像其他东西一样死去 |
| 98 | And now it's, you're going to take, I guess, a vote today, right? | 现在,你今天要投票,对吧? |
| 99 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 100 | Today, people decide unanimously to do this. | 今天,人们一致决定这样做。 |
| 101 | That's my absolute conviction. | 这就是我绝对的信念。 |
| 102 | So we can't talk about it until the vote's taken, because sometimes, you know, strange | 所以,我们不能谈论它 直到投票, 因为有时,你知道,奇怪的 |
| 103 | things happen. | 事情发生了。 |
| 104 | But I think you're going to do very well. | 但我想你会做的非常好。 |
| 105 | Everyone's very happy about | 大家都很高兴 |
| 106 | Go ahead. | 来吧。 |
| 107 | Yes. | 对 |
| 108 | Mr. President, how is the Iran-Israel ceasefire going, in your opinion? | 主席先生,你认为伊朗-以色列停火情况如何? |
| 109 | I think very good. | 我觉得很好。 |
| 110 | Israel came back yesterday. | 以色列昨天回来了。 |
| 111 | I was so proud of them, | 我以他们为荣 |
| 112 | because they came back. | 因为他们回来了。 |
| 113 | You know, they went out because they felt it was a violation. | 你知道,他们出去 因为他们觉得这是违法的。 |
| 114 | And technically, they were right, but it just wouldn't have worked out very well. | 从技术上讲,他们是对的, 但事情不会很顺利。 |
| 115 | And they | 他们 |
| 116 | brought the planes back. | 把飞机带回来 |
| 117 | They had gone on to another journey because it was a little | 他们去了另一个旅程 因为有点 |
| 118 | bit of a violation. | 有点违反规定 |
| 119 | And I said, you got to get them back. | 我说,你得把它们拿回来。 |
| 120 | And they came back, and it | 他们回来了,然后... |
| 121 | was a great thing. | 是一个伟大的事情。 |
| 122 | And it's going very well. | 且道甚处去. |
| 123 | Mr. President, what is your response to the foreign minister, saying Israel wants to enrich | 主席先生,你对外交部长的答复是什么,说以色列想丰富 |
| 124 | nuclear? | 核弹? |
| 125 | Hello, Katie. | 你好,凯蒂。 |
| 126 | She's so great, this one. | 她是如此的伟大,这个。 |
| 127 | Any questions she has, I'll answer. | 她有任何问题,我会回答的 |
| 128 | Well, maybe | 也许 |
| 129 | I better not say that. | 我最好别这么说 |
| 130 | What was your question? | 你的问题是什么? |
| 131 | What is your response to the Iranian foreign minister continuing to say Iran will enrich | 你对伊朗外交部长的回答是什么? |
| 132 | the uranium and pursue nuclear weapons? | 铀和追求核武器? |
| 133 | Well, I don't know if they've said that, but I'll tell you, the last thing they want | 我不知道他们有没有这么说 但我会告诉你 他们最不想说的 |
| 134 | to do is enrich anything right now. | 这样做是丰富一切 现在。 |
| 135 | They want to recover. | 他们想要康复。 |
| 136 | And we won't let that happen. | 我们不会让这种事发生的 |
| 137 | Number one, militarily, we won't. | 第一,军事,我们不会。 |
| 138 | I think we'll end up having somewhat of a relationship | 我想我们最终会有些关系 |
| 139 | with Iran. | 与伊朗。 |
| 140 | I see it. | 我看见了 |
| 141 | Look, I've had a relationship over the last four days. | 你看,我有一个关系 在过去四天。 |
| 142 | They agreed to the | 他们同意 |
| 143 | ceasefire. | 停火协议。 |
| 144 | And it was a very equal agreement. | 这是一个非常平等的协议。 |
| 145 | They both said that's enough. | 他们都说够了 |
| 146 | They both said | 他们都说 |
| 147 | it. | 这个 |
| 148 | But no, they won't do that. | 但是,不,他们不会这样做。 |
| 149 | The last thing they want to do, Katie, is enrich. | 他们最不想做的事 凯蒂 是富足 |
| 150 | They're | 他们是 |
| 151 | not looking to, they're not, can you imagine, after all that, they're going to say, oh, | 不看,他们不是,你能想象, 毕竟,他们会说,哦, |
| 152 | let's go and do a bomb. | 让我们去做一个炸弹。 |
| 153 | You know, there could be a day in the future where, and then somebody | 你知道,将来可能有一天, 然后有人 |
| 154 | else taking our place will be saying, don't do it. | 换句话说 别这么做 |
| 155 | And maybe they won't do it as well. | 也许他们不会也这样做。 |
| 156 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 157 | But they're not going to have a bomb and they're not going to enrich. | 但他们不会有炸弹,也不会增加财富. |
| 158 | And | 还有 |
| 159 | we believe all of the stuff is down there. | 我们相信所有的东西都在下面 |
| 160 | We don't think they had nearly the time because | 我们不认为他们有 几乎的时间,因为 |
| 161 | to get that out is a very difficult thing. | 把它弄出来是很困难的 |
| 162 | It's not like, it's not like moving a package | 又不是搬东西 |
| 163 | or taking this carpet up and moving it. | 或拿起这地毯移动它。 |
| 164 | It's very difficult. | 这很困难 |
| 165 | It's very dangerous to do. | 这很危险 |
| 166 | We believe it's all down there. | 我们相信一切都在那里。 |
| 167 | We had a tremendous victory, a tremendous hit. | 我们取得了巨大的胜利,巨大的打击。 |
| 168 | And because of that, | 正因为如此 |
| 169 | they, I don't think they would have been down there because they knew we were coming. | 他们,我不认为他们会 在那里,因为他们知道我们来了。 |
| 170 | When | 何时 |
| 171 | they knew we were coming, they're not going to be down in that, you know, 30 stories underground. | 他们知道我们要来, 他们不会在那,你知道,30层楼的地下。 |
| 172 | So no, I think it was just a tremendous victory for everybody, including Iran. | 所以,不,我认为这只是一个巨大的胜利 每个人,包括伊朗。 |
| 173 | Look, you know, | 听着,你知道, |
| 174 | they've got a country and they've got oil and they're very smart people and they can | 他们有国家,有石油 他们非常聪明,他们可以 |
| 175 | come back. | 回来 |
| 176 | Israel got hit very hard, especially the last couple of days. | 以色列受到非常重的打击,特别是最近几天。 |
| 177 | Israel was hit really | 以色列真的被击中了 |
| 178 | hard. | 很难。 |
| 179 | Those ballistic missiles, boy, they took out a lot of buildings. | 那些弹道导弹,孩子, 他们摧毁了很多建筑物。 |
| 180 | And they've been | 他们一直 |
| 181 | great. | 伟大的。 |
| 182 | Bibi Netanyahu should be very proud of himself. | 比比·内塔尼亚胡应该为自己感到非常骄傲. |
| 183 | And they've really been great. | 他们真的很棒 |
| 184 | But they're not going to be building bombs for a long time. | 但他们在很长一段时间内不会制造炸弹. |
| 185 | Mr. President, what's your reaction to the intelligence reports saying that the Iranian | 主席先生,你对情报报告的反应是什么 说伊朗人 |
| 186 | nuclear sites were only partially devastated, not entirely? | 核场地只遭到部分破坏,并非完全摧毁? |
| 187 | They said it was actually the report said it could have been very, they don't know. | 他们说,其实是报告 说这可能是非常,他们不知道。 |
| 188 | I mean, | 我是说... |
| 189 | they did a report. | 他们做了一个报告。 |
| 190 | I could have Pete talk to it because his department did the report. | 我可以让皮特去跟它谈谈 因为他的部门做了报告 |
| 191 | They really don't know. | 他们真的不知道。 |
| 192 | I think Israel is going to be telling us very soon because | 我认为以色列很快就会告诉我们 因为... |
| 193 | Bibi is going to have people involved in that whole situation. | 毕比会让人介入整个局势 |
| 194 | We hear it was obliteration. | 我们听说它被消灭了 |
| 195 | It was a virtual obliteration. | 这是一个虚拟消灭。 |
| 196 | When you take a look at the ground above, don't forget the | 你看看上面的地面 别忘了 |
| 197 | underground. | - 地下的 - 地下的 |
| 198 | But everything above, if you look at the before and the after picture, | 但上面的一切,如果你看 前后的照片, |
| 199 | everything above is burned black, the trees, everything. | 上面的一切被烧黑,树木,一切. |
| 200 | There's one building, | 有一个建筑, |
| 201 | but that's a building that sunk substantially into the granite. | 但它的建筑 沉入了花岗岩。 |
| 202 | So that, you know, the fire | 这样,你知道,火 |
| 203 | goes right over it. | 直接过去 |
| 204 | I believe it was total obliteration. | 我认为这是彻底消灭。 |
| 205 | I believe they didn't have a | 我相信他们没有 |
| 206 | chance to get anything out because we acted fast. | 因为我们动作很快 有机会把东西弄出来 |
| 207 | If it would have taken two weeks, maybe, | 如果需要两周,也许, |
| 208 | but it's very hard to remove that kind of material. | 但很难去除这种材料 |
| 209 | Very hard and very dangerous for | 非常困难,非常危险 |
| 210 | them to remove it. | 他们去移除它。 |
| 211 | Plus they knew we were coming. | 而且他们知道我们要来 |
| 212 | And if they know we're coming, | 如果他们知道我们来了, |
| 213 | they're not going to be down there. | 他们不会在那里。 |
| 214 | There aren't too many people that are going to be down there. | 没有太多的人会在那里。 |
| 215 | Pete, do you have something to say about that? | 皮特,你有什么要说的吗? |
| 216 | Well, Mr. President, when you talk to the people | 总统先生 当你和人民交谈时 |
| 217 | who built the bombs, understand what those bombs can do, and deliver those bombs, they landed | 他们制造炸弹 了解炸弹能做什么 运送炸弹 |
| 218 | precisely where they were supposed to. | 确切地说,他们应该去的地方。 |
| 219 | So it was a flawless mission. | 所以这是一个完美无瑕的任务。 |
| 220 | Flawless. | 法华无边. |
| 221 | Right down where we | 就在我们这里 |
| 222 | needed to enter. | 需要进入。 |
| 223 | And given the 30,000 pounds of explosives and capability of those munitions, | 鉴于这些弹药的3万磅炸药和能力, |
| 224 | it was devastation underneath Fordow. | 福尔多下面是一片浩劫 |
| 225 | And the amount of munitions, six per location. | 和弹药数量,每个位置6枚. |
| 226 | Any assessment | 任何评估 |
| 227 | that tells you it was something otherwise is speculating with other motives. | 告诉你这是别的东西 在猜测其他动机。 |
| 228 | And we know that | 我们知道 |
| 229 | because when you actually look at the report, by the way, it was a top secret report, it was | 因为当你真的看 报告,顺便说一句, 这是一个绝密的报告,它是 |
| 230 | preliminary. | 初步情况。 |
| 231 | It was low confidence. | 这是低信心。 |
| 232 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 233 | So this is an, you make assessments based on what | 所以这是一个,你根据什么进行评估 |
| 234 | you know. | 你知道吗? |
| 235 | And it said it could be very devastating, very serious. | 它说它可能非常毁灭性,非常严重。 |
| 236 | Moderate to severe, and we believe | 温和到严重, 我们相信 |
| 237 | far more likely severe and obliterated. | 更可能严重和消灭。 |
| 238 | So this is a political motive here. | 因此,这是一个政治动机。 |
| 239 | Of course, we're doing | 当然,我们正在做 |
| 240 | a leak investigation with the FBI right now, because this information is for internal purposes, | 现在跟联邦调查局进行秘密调查 因为这个信息是内部的 |
| 241 | battle damage assessments, and CNN and others are trying to spin it to make the President look bad | CNN等人试图让总统看起来很糟。 |
| 242 | when this was an overwhelming success. | 那时,这是一个压倒性的成功。 |
| 243 | We had a tremendous success, and this is the New York Times, | 我们取得了巨大成功 这是纽约时报 |
| 244 | I call it the failing New York Times, it's going to hell. | 我称之为失败的《纽约时报》 它会下地狱的 |
| 245 | And CNN, which is, you know, very few | 还有CNN, 就是,你知道,很少 |
| 246 | people are watching. | 人们在看。 |
| 247 | And you would think they'd do the opposite. | 你会认为他们会做相反的。 |
| 248 | You would think they'd want to say, | 你会认为他们会想说, |
| 249 | this was an unbelievable success. | 这是不可思议的成功。 |
| 250 | And the thing that hurts me is it's really demeaning to the pilots | 伤害我的东西是 它真的贬低飞行员 |
| 251 | and the people that put that whole thing together, the generals. | 和那些把整个事情放在一起的人,将军们。 |
| 252 | That was a perfect operation. | 那是个完美的行动。 |
| 253 | And when you look at the holes, and this was done from 52,000 feet, there was no moon, there was no | 当你看着洞穴, 这是从52,000英尺, 没有月亮,没有 |
| 254 | light, and those three holes are right together. | 光线,那三个洞就在一起 |
| 255 | And also, and nobody talks about this, we shot | 而且,没有人谈论这个,我们拍摄 |
| 256 | 30 tomahawks from submarines, in particular one submarine, but that was 400 miles away. | 来自潜艇的30只鸟鹰,特别是一艘潜艇, 但那是400英里外。 |
| 257 | And every one of those tomahawks hit within a foot of where they were supposed to hit, | 而每一个这些土拨鼠 击中在一英尺之内 他们应该击中, |
| 258 | took out a lot of buildings that Israel wasn't able to get. | 摧毁了许多以色列无法建造的建筑物。 |
| 259 | We took them out with tomahawks. | 我们用猛鹰杀了他们 |
| 260 | We don't even talk about that. | 我们甚至不谈论这一点。 |
| 261 | This was a devastating attack, and it knocked them for a | 这是一个毁灭性的攻击, 它敲他们为 |
| 262 | loop. | 循环。 |
| 263 | And you know, if it didn't, they wouldn't have settled. | 你知道,如果它没有, 他们就不会解决。 |
| 264 | If they had won, if we didn't take | 如果他们赢了,如果我们不拿 |
| 265 | it out, they wouldn't have settled. | 他们不会和解的 |
| 266 | Somebody mentioned that to me last night. | 昨晚有人跟我说过 |
| 267 | If that thing | 如果那个东西 |
| 268 | wasn't devastated, they would have never settled. | 他们不会安顿下来的 |
| 269 | Marco, do you have something to say? | 马可,你有话要说吗? |
| 270 | First of all, on the stuff about the intelligence, this is what a leaker is telling you the | 首先,关于情报,这是一个泄露者告诉你的 |
| 271 | intelligence says. | 智慧说. |
| 272 | That's the game these people play. | 这就是这些人玩的游戏。 |
| 273 | They read it, and then they go out and | 他们读了,然后他们出去 |
| 274 | characterize, and they're leakers. | 特征,他们是泄密者。 |
| 275 | This is the game they play. | 这是他们玩的游戏 |
| 276 | So that's number one. | 所以这是第一。 |
| 277 | Number two, | 二号 |
| 278 | here's a fact. | 这是事实 |
| 279 | The conversion facility, which you can't do a nuclear weapon without a conversion | 转换设施,没有转换就无法制造核武器 |
| 280 | facility. | 设施。 |
| 281 | We can't even find where it is, where it used to be on the map. | 我们甚至找不到它的位置, 它曾经在地图上。 |
| 282 | You can't even find | 你连找都找不到 |
| 283 | where it used to be because the whole thing is just blackened out. | 过去是因为整个事情都黑了 |
| 284 | It's gone. | 不见了 |
| 285 | It's wiped out. | 悉皆消灭. |
| 286 | Then we dropped 12 of the strongest bombs on the planet right down the hole in two places. | 然后我们把地球上最强的12枚炸弹 扔在了两个地方 |
| 287 | Everything underneath that mountain is in bad shape. | 山下的一切情况都很糟糕 |
| 288 | And I refer you to the statement of the | 我将你引见 |
| 289 | You know what he said? | 你知道他说什么吗? |
| 290 | He said there was Iran the way it looked the day before the attack, | 他说有伊朗 在袭击前一天的样子, |
| 291 | and what their nuclear program looks like now. | 以及他们的核计划现在的样子 |
| 292 | Two very different things. | 两件非常不同的事情 |
| 293 | They are way behind | 他们已经落后了 |
| 294 | where they were just seven days ago. | 他们七天前就在那里 |
| 295 | Now, anything in the world can be rebuilt, but now we know where | 现在,世界上任何事物都可以重建 但现在我们知道在哪里 |
| 296 | it is. | 没错 |
| 297 | And if they try to rebuild it, we'll have options there as well. | 如果他们试图重建它, 我们也会有选择。 |
| 298 | But all this leaker stuff, | 但所有这些泄露的东西, |
| 299 | these leakers are professional stabbers. | 这些泄露者都是专业的刺客. |
| 300 | That's what they are. | 这就是他们是什么。 |
| 301 | They go out, and they read this | 他们出去读这个 |
| 302 | stuff, and then they tell you what it says against the law, but they characterize it for you in a | 他们告诉你什么是违法的 但是他们用一种方法形容你 |
| 303 | way that's absolutely false. | 这绝对是假的 |
| 304 | There's no way Iran comes to the table. | 伊朗不可能上台 |
| 305 | Somehow nothing had happened. | 不知怎的,什么都没发生 |
| 306 | This was complete and total obliteration. | 这是完全和彻底的消灭。 |
| 307 | They're in bad shape. | 其形恶形. |
| 308 | They are way behind today compared | 他们今天比比起来还落后 |
| 309 | to where they were just seven days ago because of what the president did. | 7天前因为总统的所做所为 去了那里 |
| 310 | Marco, can I just alert you to one other aspect? | 马可,我可以提醒你另一个方面吗? |
| 311 | So the great thing is you took out the nuclear | 所以,伟大的事情是你 拿出核 |
| 312 | capability of Iran. | 伊朗的能力。 |
| 313 | This was crucial. | 这一点至关重要。 |
| 314 | You did it in a way which is extremely impressive, | 你这样做的方式 令人印象深刻, |
| 315 | but it signals the sense to the rest of the world that this president, when it comes to it, | 但是这预示着世界其他人的感知 当这个总统出现的时候 |
| 316 | yes, he is a man of peace, but if necessary, he is willing to use strength, the enormous strength | 是的,他是一个和平的人,但如有必要, 他愿意使用力量,巨大的力量 |
| 317 | of the American military. | 美国军方 |
| 318 | So I think that signal to the rest of the world, this is far beyond Iran, | 因此我认为这个信号 向世界其他国家, 这远远超出了伊朗, |
| 319 | is extremely important. | 这一点非常重要。 |
| 320 | So let me also point us to that aspect of what happens. | 因此,我还要指出所发生的事情的这一方面。 |
| 321 | They went down. | 他们倒下了。 |
| 322 | Iran went down to the site afterwards. | 伊朗随后前往该场址。 |
| 323 | They said it's so devastated, | 他们说它太糟了 |
| 324 | and they settled when they saw what we did to it. | 当他们看到我们做了什么时,他们就安顿下来了。 |
| 325 | And frankly, if we didn't do that, | 坦白说,如果我们不这样做, |
| 326 | they would have had a lot of ammunition to keep going. | 他们会有很多弹药可以继续 |
| 327 | They wouldn't have settled. | 他们不会和解的 |
| 328 | Somebody brought that up, and two Iranians went down to see it, and they called back, | 有人提起这件事,两个伊朗人下楼去看, 他们回电, |
| 329 | and they said this place is gone. | 他们说这地方不见了 |
| 330 | So it's just fake news by CNN, which has got no ratings. | 所以只是CNN的假新闻,没有收视率. |
| 331 | It's a failed network. | 失败网. |
| 332 | Anybody here from CNN, by the way? | 有人从CNN来吗? |
| 333 | Because you're a really disgraceful | 因为你真的很丢脸 |
| 334 | network. | 腾讯网. |
| 335 | MSNBC, I think, is actually worse. | MSNBC,我认为,实际上更糟糕。 |
| 336 | But they're all pretty bad, but yours is good, | 但它们都非常糟糕, 但你的很好, |
| 337 | Katie, I'll tell you. | 凯蒂 我告诉你 |
| 338 | You know what Marco reminded me that he did such a nice job there? | 你知道马可告诉我什么 他在那里做了这么好的工作吗? |
| 339 | It was nine years ago I had to debate this guy. | 9年前,我不得不辩论这家伙。 |
| 340 | He was not easy. | 他可没那么容易 |
| 341 | I think he even got better. | 我觉得他甚至变得更好。 |
| 342 | But when you were into your little thing, I said, this is when I had to debate this guy. | 但是当你进入你的小事, 我说,这是 当我不得不辩论这家伙。 |
| 343 | You think it's easy to debate? | 你觉得辩论容易吗? |
| 344 | It's not easy. | 岂不易哉. |
| 345 | How long do you think that the Iranian nuclear | 你认为伊朗的核子 |
| 346 | program has been put back by these strikes? | 程序被这些罢工放回去了吗? |
| 347 | Years? | 岁月? |
| 348 | Or totally a bunch of years? | 还是一整年? |
| 349 | I think basically decades, because I don't think they'll ever do it again. | 我认为基本上几十年, 因为我认为他们再也不会这样做了。 |
| 350 | I just don't think they're going to do it. | 我只是不认为他们会这样做。 |
| 351 | I think they're going to take their oil, | 我想他们会拿走他们的油 |
| 352 | they're going to have some missiles, and they'll have some defense. | 他们会有一些导弹, 他们会有一些防御。 |
| 353 | I think they've had it. | 我想他们受够了 |
| 354 | I mean, they just went through hell. | 我的意思是,他们只是经历了地狱。 |
| 355 | I think they've had it. | 我想他们受够了 |
| 356 | The last thing they want to do | 他们最不想做的事 |
| 357 | is enrich. | 富饶了。 |
| 358 | They've been trying to do it. | 他们一直试图这样做。 |
| 359 | By the way, it's hard to enrich. | 顺便说一句,难以充实. |
| 360 | And you know, | 你知道吗? |
| 361 | when you look at a site like that, very, very hard to build, very, very hard, very expensive. | 当你看到这样的一个地点, 非常,非常难建造, 非常,非常难,非常昂贵。 |
| 362 | They spent trillions of dollars trying to do this thing, and they didn't come up with it. | 他们花了数万亿美元 试图做这件事, 他们没有想到。 |
| 363 | And we're actually getting along with them very well right now. | 我们现在和他们相处得很好 |
| 364 | But had we not succeeded with that hit, that hit ended the war. | 但是,如果我们没有成功 击中,结束了战争。 |
| 365 | That hit ended the war. | 那场战役结束了 |
| 366 | I don't want to use an example of Hiroshima. | 我不想用广岛的例子 |
| 367 | I don't want to use an example of Nagasaki. | 我不想用长崎的例子。 |
| 368 | But that was essentially the same thing. | 但这基本上是一回事。 |
| 369 | That ended that war. | 这结束了这场战争。 |
| 370 | This ended that with a war. | 这结束了战争。 |
| 371 | If we didn't take that out, they would have been — they'd be fighting right now. | 如果我们不把那个拿出来,他们早就——他们现在就在战斗. |
| 372 | Mr. President? | 总统先生? |
| 373 | If the Iranians do rebuild, would the United States — | 如果伊朗人重建了,美国会吗? |
| 374 | If they rebuild? | 如果他们重建? |
| 375 | Would the United States strike again? | 美国会再次发动攻击吗? |
| 376 | And I both have a question about that. | 我有一个问题。 |
| 377 | I'm not going to have to worry about that. | 我不用担心了 |
| 378 | It's gone for years, years. | 它已经走了几年,几年。 |
| 379 | Very tough to rebuild | 很难重建 |
| 380 | because the whole thing has collapsed. | 因为整件事都崩溃了 |
| 381 | In other words, inside, it's all collapsed. | 换句话说,里面,一切都崩溃了。 |
| 382 | Nobody can get in to see it because it's collapsed. | 没人能看到它,因为它已经崩溃。 |
| 383 | You can't go in to see a room that | 你不能进去看那个房间 |
| 384 | has, you know, 10 million tons of rock in it, and the tunnels are totally collapsed. | 里面有1000万吨的岩石 隧道完全坍塌了 |
| 385 | But they rebuild. | 但他们重建。 |
| 386 | Well, they've already looked at the tunnels. | 他们已经看过隧道了 |
| 387 | This was an unbelievable hit by genius pilots | 这是令人难以置信的打击 天才飞行员 |
| 388 | and genius people in the military. | 和天才的人在军队。 |
| 389 | And they're not being given credit for it because we have | 他们没有被授予荣誉,因为我们有 |
| 390 | scum that's in this group. | 这群人渣 |
| 391 | And not all of you are. | 而非众生. |
| 392 | You had some great reporters. | 你有一些伟大的记者。 |
| 393 | But you have scum. | 但你还有人渣 |
| 394 | CNN是人渣。 | |
| 395 | MSDNC是渣滓。 | |
| 396 | The New York Times is scum. | 纽约时报是人渣。 |
| 397 | They're bad people. | 他们是坏人。 |
| 398 | They're sick. | 他们生病了。 |
| 399 | And what they've done is they're trying to make this unbelievable victory into something less. | 而他们所做的是 他们试图把难以置信的胜利 变成更少的东西。 |
| 400 | Now, even they admit that it was hit very hard. | 现在,连他们都承认它受到非常重的打击. |
| 401 | Okay? | 好吗? |
| 402 | But it wasn't hit hard. | 但它没有受到重创. |
| 403 | It was hit brutally. | 被残酷地击中。 |
| 404 | And it knocked it out. | 它把它打晕了。 |
| 405 | The original word that I use — I guess it got us in trouble because | 我最初使用的词——我想这给我们带来了麻烦,因为 |
| 406 | it's a strong word — it was obliteration. | 这是一个强烈的词——它被抹去了。 |
| 407 | And you'll see that. | 你会明白的 |
| 408 | And it's going to come out. | 而将出之. |
| 409 | Israel is doing a report on it now, I understand. | 我理解,以色列正在就此提出报告。 |
| 410 | And I was told that they said it was total | 有人告诉我,他们说这是全部 |
| 411 | obliteration. | 消灭 |
| 412 | You know, they have guys that go in there after the hit, and they say it was total | 你知道,他们有家伙去 在那里的打击后, 他们说这是总计 |
| 413 | obliteration. | 消灭 |
| 414 | And, you know, I don't want it for me. | 而且,你知道,我不想它对我来说。 |
| 415 | I want it for the pilots. | 我要给飞行员看 |
| 416 | I want it for the | 我要给 |
| 417 | military. | 军事 |
| 418 | They did such a good job. | 他们做的很好 |
| 419 | If you were in the Situation Room with me, with the generals | 如果你和我一起在情况室 和将军们在一起 |
| 420 | and all of the people that did such a good job. | 以及所有做过如此出色工作的人 |
| 421 | And then they get demeaned by these idiots at CNN | 然后在CNN被这些白痴贬低 |
| 422 | who can't get ratings. | 谁都得不到收视率。 |
| 423 | The place is dying. | 这地方快死了 |
| 424 | Nobody wants to even waste their time going on their | 没有人想浪费他们的时间 |
| 425 | shows. | 显示。 |
| 426 | So they form with the New York Times, who's dying also. | 于是他们组成了"纽约时报",后者也濒临死亡. |
| 427 | Without Trump, you wouldn't | 没有特朗普,你就不会 |
| 428 | have a New York Times. | 有纽约时报。 |
| 429 | And then just changing gears to your meeting with Zelensky later today, | 然后就换了设备 让你今天晚些时候和泽伦斯基见面 |
| 430 | can you give us any preview of what the two of you might be discussing? | 你能给我们预览一下你们俩在讨论什么吗? |
| 431 | No, we'll discuss the obvious. | 不,我们会讨论显而易见的。 |
| 432 | We'll discuss his difficulty. | 我们来讨论他的难题 |
| 433 | He's got a little difficulty. | 他有点困难 |
| 434 | Zelensky. | 泽连斯基 |
| 435 | He's a nice guy. | 他是个好人 |
| 436 | I mean, I'm going to meet him today. | 我的意思是,我今天要去见他。 |
| 437 | I don't know. | 师曰. |
| 438 | I assume we're | 我想我们是 |
| 439 | going to be discussing Ukraine. | 将讨论乌克兰。 |
| 440 | Yeah, it seems like as well. | 是啊,它看起来也一样。 |
| 441 | Well, we're going to see. | 我们去看看 |
| 442 | I mean, | 我是说... |
| 443 | I've spoken to Putin a lot, and he actually was very nice. | 我和普京谈过很多次了 他其实很好 |
| 444 | He volunteered help on, as you know, | 他自愿帮助,你知道, |
| 445 | Iran. | 伊朗语。 |
| 446 | I said, No, I don't need help on Iran. | 我说,不,我不需要帮助伊朗。 |
| 447 | I need help on Russia. | 我需要俄罗斯的帮助 |
| 448 | Okay, I said, do me a favor. | 好吧 我说 帮我个忙 |
| 449 | Help us on Russia, not on Iran. | 帮助我们在俄罗斯,而不是伊朗。 |
| 450 | But he was very nice. | 但他是个好人 |
| 451 | We're going to talk about that. | 我们要谈这个 |
| 452 | We're going to talk. | 我们要谈谈。 |
| 453 | I think progress is being made. | 我认为正在取得进展。 |
| 454 | I think great progress is being made on | 我认为正在取得很大进展 |
| 455 | Gaza. | 加沙。 |
| 456 | I think because of this attack that we made, I think we're going to have some very good news. | 我认为,由于我们发动了这次袭击, 我认为我们将有一些非常好的消息。 |
| 457 | I was talking to Steve Witkoff, who, by the way, is terrific and who knows more about this subject | 我和史蒂夫·维特克夫谈过了 他很棒 更了解这个话题 |
| 458 | than anybody, the subject of what we were just talking about. | 而不是任何人 我们刚才谈论的主题。 |
| 459 | He was on last night with Jesse | 他昨晚和杰西在一起,他和杰西在一起 |
| 460 | and with Laura and with Sean. | 还有劳拉和肖恩 |
| 461 | And boy, he has a Suzy. | 男孩,他有一个苏西。 |
| 462 | He has a great take on it. | 他对此很感兴趣 |
| 463 | He just explains | 他只是解释 |
| 464 | it so easily. | 这很容易。 |
| 465 | He's really very knowledgeable. | 他真的很有知识。 |
| 466 | But he did tell me that Gaza is very close. | 但他确实告诉我,加沙非常接近。 |
| 467 | One follow up on Iran. | 一个伊朗的后续。 |
| 468 | Both you and Secretary Rubio and Hexette mentioned the leader, | 你和书记鲁比奥和赫克谢特都提到领袖 |
| 469 | but can you clarify? | 你能澄清一下吗? |
| 470 | Is the intelligence correct or is the intelligence wrong? | 情报正确还是错误? |
| 471 | Well, the intelligence was very inconclusive. | 情报很不准确 |
| 472 | The intelligence says, | 情报部门说 |
| 473 | we don't know. | 我们不知道。 |
| 474 | It could have been very severe. | 可能会很严重 |
| 475 | That's what the intelligence says. | 智者所说. |
| 476 | So I guess | 所以我觉得 |
| 477 | that's correct. | 没错 |
| 478 | But I think we can take the we don't know. | 但我想我们可以拿我们不知道的。 |
| 479 | It was very severe. | 这很严重。 |
| 480 | It was obliteration. | 这是消灭。 |
| 481 | And you think that a media outlet would say, isn't that a great thing? | 你认为媒体会说,这不是件好事吗? |
| 482 | I mean, more importantly, | 我是说,更重要的是, |
| 483 | for the pilots, for the military, you take their guts out. | 为飞行员,为军方, 你拿出他们的胆量。 |
| 484 | You take their absolute guts out. | 你把他们绝对的胆量。 |
| 485 | They | 他们 |
| 486 | had a tremendous attack. | 发生了巨大的攻击。 |
| 487 | It was a complete obliteration. | 这是彻底的毁灭。 |
| 488 | The other team, the other group, | 另一支队伍,另一支队伍, |
| 489 | Iran, said, let's stop this. | 伊朗说,让我们停止这一切。 |
| 490 | And you know what? | 你知道吗? |
| 491 | Israel said it too. | 以色列也这么说。 |
| 492 | Very smart. | 非常聪明 |
| 493 | They fought like | 他们像打 |
| 494 | hell. | 见鬼 |
| 495 | And then they said, let's stop. | 然后他们说,让我们停止。 |
| 496 | And they're going to build themselves. | 而将自建. |
| 497 | And I really see it | 我真的看见了 |
| 498 | just sticking. | 只是坚持。 |
| 499 | I mean, we may do papers on it, Marco. | 我的意思是,我们可能做论文 关于它,马可。 |
| 500 | Maybe we're going to do papers. | 也许我们会做论文。 |
| 501 | I don't | 我没有 |
| 502 | even know if you need them. | 甚至知道如果你需要他们。 |
| 503 | They're not going to be fighting each other. | 他们不会互相争斗的 |
| 504 | They've had it. | 他们受够了 |
| 505 | They've | 他们已经 |
| 506 | had a big fight, like two kids at a schoolyard. | 吵了一架,就像两个孩子在学校一样 |
| 507 | You know, they fight like hell. | 你知道,他们像地狱一样战斗。 |
| 508 | You can't stop | 你不能停下来 |
| 509 | them. | 他们。 |
| 510 | Let them fight for about two, three minutes. | 让他们战斗两三分钟 |
| 511 | Then it's easy to stop them. | 然后很容易阻止他们。 |
| 512 | And then he has to | 然后他必须 |
| 513 | sometimes use strong language. | 有时会使用强壮的语言。 |
| 514 | You have to use a certain word. | 须用某字. |
| 515 | I think we have to join the other | 我想我们得加入另一个 |
| 516 | side. | 侧面。 |
| 517 | Yes, we're going to join some other group. | 是的,我们要加入一些其他团体。 |
| 518 | Yes. | 对 |
| 519 | Thank you, Katie. | 谢谢你 凯蒂 |
| 520 | One last question. | 最后一个问题 |
| 521 | Do you | 你会吗? |
| 522 | believe she used to be very difficult? | 相信她以前很困难吗? |
| 523 | Do you believe that this strike on the Iranian nuclear | 你相信这次对伊朗核子的袭击 |
| 524 | program will lead to the release of the hostages in Gaza? | 方案将导致释放加沙人质? |
| 525 | I think that it helped a little bit. | 我认为这有点帮助。 |
| 526 | It showed a lot of power. | 显大威力. |
| 527 | Yeah, I think it helped. | 是的,我认为它帮助。 |
| 528 | But we're going to get separately. | 但得分别. |
| 529 | Even before | 甚至在之前 |
| 530 | this, we were very close to making a deal on Gaza. | 因此,我们非常接近于就加沙问题达成协议。 |
| 531 | I think this helped. | 我觉得这帮助。 |
| 532 | Yes. | 对 |
| 533 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 534 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 535 | Thank | 谢谢 |
| 536 | you, everybody. | 你们,大家。 |
| 537 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 538 | Deborah Haynes from Sky News. | "天空新闻"的黛博拉·海恩斯. |
| 539 | Hi. | 顿 |
| 540 | Hello. | 哈罗 |
| 541 | The language that you have | 您的语言 |
| 542 | used when talking to Donald Trump has been notable because of its flattery. | 与唐纳德·特朗普交谈时使用,因其恭维而引人瞩目. |
| 543 | Today you called him | 今天你打电话给他 |
| 544 | daddy and you sent a text message to him that was gushing with praise. | 爸爸和你给他发了一条短信 充满了赞美 |
| 545 | Is this the way that you feel | 这是你的感觉 |
| 546 | you have to act when doing business with the U.S. president through flattery and praise? | 你和美国总统做生意时 必须通过恭维和赞美来行动? |
| 547 | Isn't it a | 这不是一个 |
| 548 | bit demeaning and doesn't it make you look weak? | 有点贬低,不会让你看起来软弱吗? |
| 549 | No, I don't think so. | 不,我不这么认为。 |
| 550 | I think it's a bit of a | 我觉得有点像 |
| 551 | question of taste. | 品味问题. |
| 552 | But I think he's a good friend. | 但我觉得他是个好朋友 |
| 553 | And when he is doing stuff, which is forcing us | 而当他做的东西, 这迫使我们 |
| 554 | to, for example, when it comes to making more investments, I mean, would you ever think that | 比如说,在做更多投资的时候, 我的意思是,你会认为 |
| 555 | this would be the result of this summit if he would not have been re-elected president? | 如果他没有连任总统,那将是这次首脑会议的结果? |
| 556 | Do you | 你会吗? |
| 557 | really think that seven or eight countries who said, yeah, somewhere in the 2030s we might meet | 真正认为,有七八个国家说,是的,在20世纪30年代的某个地方,我们可能会见面 |
| 558 | the 2%? | 2%吗? |
| 559 | We've now all decided in the last four or five months to get to 2%. | 我们已经决定 在过去的四五个月里 达到2%。 |
| 560 | So doesn't he deserve | 所以他不值得这样 |
| 561 | praise? | 赞美? |
| 562 | And when it comes to Iran, the fact that he took this decisive action, very targeted, | 至于伊朗 他采取了果断的行动 目标非常明确 |
| 563 | to make sure that Iran would not be able to get his hands on a nuclear capability, | 确保伊朗无法掌握核能力, |
| 564 | I think he deserves all the praise. | 我觉得他值得所有赞美 |
| 565 | On what you just said about, but first, | 关于你刚才说的话 但首先 |
| 566 | can I ask you, is subject to interpretation? | 我能问你吗? |
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