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纪念与感谢 | 哀悼Charlie Kirk遇刺身亡,川普发

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0:00To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on a college campus in Utah.对于我的伟大的美国同胞们,我为查理·柯克在犹他州一个大学校园被令人发指的暗杀而感到悲痛和愤怒.
0:10Charlie inspired millions, and tonight all who knew him and loved him are united in shock and horror.查理激励了数百万人 今晚所有认识他和爱他的人都在震惊和恐怖中团结起来
0:18Charlie was a patriot who devoted his life to the cause of open debate and the country that he loved so much, the United States of America.查理是一位爱国者,毕生致力于公开辩论的事业和他非常热爱的国家——美国.
0:28He fought for liberty, democracy, justice, and the American people.他为自由、民主、正义和美国人民而战。
0:33He's a martyr for truth and freedom, and there's never been anyone who was so respected by youth.他是真理与自由的烈士,从来没有人受到过青春如此的尊敬.
0:41Charlie was also a man of deep, deep faith, and we take comfort in the knowledge that he is now at peace with God in heaven.查理也是一位深厚,深厚的信仰的人,我们对他现在与上帝在天堂和平相处的知识感到安慰.
0:51Our prayers are with his wife, Erica, the two young, beloved children, and his entire family, who he loved more than anything in the world.我们与他的妻子埃丽卡,两个年幼,爱戴的孩子,以及他全家一起祈祷,他爱的比世界上任何东西都多.
1:01We ask God to watch over them in this terrible hour of heartache and pain.我们要求上帝在心痛和痛苦的可怕时刻照顾他们。
1:07This is a dark moment for America.对美国来说,这是一个黑暗的时刻。
1:11Charlie Kirk traveled the nation, joyfully engaging with everyone interested in good faith debate.查理·柯克巡游全国,愉快地与对诚信辩论感兴趣的所有人接触.
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1To my great fellow Americans, I am filled with grief and anger at the heinous assassination of Charlie Kirk on a college campus in Utah.对于我的伟大的美国同胞们,我为查理·柯克在犹他州一个大学校园被令人发指的暗杀而感到悲痛和愤怒.
2Charlie inspired millions, and tonight all who knew him and loved him are united in shock and horror.查理激励了数百万人 今晚所有认识他和爱他的人都在震惊和恐怖中团结起来
3Charlie was a patriot who devoted his life to the cause of open debate and the country that he loved so much, the United States of America.查理是一位爱国者,毕生致力于公开辩论的事业和他非常热爱的国家——美国.
4He fought for liberty, democracy, justice, and the American people.他为自由、民主、正义和美国人民而战。
5He's a martyr for truth and freedom, and there's never been anyone who was so respected by youth.他是真理与自由的烈士,从来没有人受到过青春如此的尊敬.
6Charlie was also a man of deep, deep faith, and we take comfort in the knowledge that he is now at peace with God in heaven.查理也是一位深厚,深厚的信仰的人,我们对他现在与上帝在天堂和平相处的知识感到安慰.
7Our prayers are with his wife, Erica, the two young, beloved children, and his entire family, who he loved more than anything in the world.我们与他的妻子埃丽卡,两个年幼,爱戴的孩子,以及他全家一起祈祷,他爱的比世界上任何东西都多.
8We ask God to watch over them in this terrible hour of heartache and pain.我们要求上帝在心痛和痛苦的可怕时刻照顾他们。
9This is a dark moment for America.对美国来说,这是一个黑暗的时刻。
10Charlie Kirk traveled the nation, joyfully engaging with everyone interested in good faith debate.查理·柯克巡游全国,愉快地与对诚信辩论感兴趣的所有人接触.
11His mission was to bring young people into the political process, which he did better than anybody ever,他的使命是让年轻人参与政治进程,他比任何人都做得更好,
12to share his love of country and to spread the simple words of common sense.分享他对国家的热爱,传播常识中的简单词.
13On campuses nationwide, he championed his ideas with courage, logic, humor, and grace.在全国的校园里,他以勇气,逻辑,幽默,优雅的风度来捍卫自己的思想.
14It's a long past time for all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder所有美国人和媒体都已经过去了 面对暴力和谋杀的事实
15are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree day after day, year after year,是日复一日地、年复一年地妖魔化你所不同意的人的悲惨后果;
16in the most hateful and despicable way possible.以最可恶和卑鄙的方式
17For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie多年来,激进左翼的人 比较了像查理这样的优秀美国人
18to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals.给纳粹 和世界上最糟糕的杀人犯和罪犯
19This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today,这种言论对我们今天在我国看到的恐怖主义负有直接责任,
20and it must stop right now.它必须立刻停止。
21My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity我的政府会找到所有 造成这场暴行的人
22and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it其他政治暴力,包括资助和支持这种暴力的组织
23as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country.以及那些追杀我们法官的人 执法人员 以及所有为我国带来秩序的人
24From the attack on my life in Butler, Pennsylvania last year, which killed a husband and father,去年在宾夕法尼亚州巴特勒发生的袭击 杀死了一位丈夫和父亲
25to the attacks on ICE agents, to the vicious murder of a healthcare executive in the streets of New York,袭击ICE特工 谋杀纽约街头的医护人员
26to the shooting of House Majority Leader Steve Scalise and three others,向众议院多数党领袖史蒂夫·斯卡利斯和另外三个人开枪
27radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives.激进左翼的政治暴力伤害了太多无辜的人,夺走了太多的生命。
28Tonight, I ask all Americans to commit themselves to the American values for which Charlie Kirk lived and died,今晚,我要求所有美国人 致力于美国的价值, 查理·柯克的生死,
29the values of free speech, citizenship, the rule of law, and the patriotic devotion and love of God.言论自由、公民权、法治、爱国奉献和爱神的价值观。
30Charlie was the best of America, and the monster who attacked him was attacking our whole country.查理是美国最优秀的,袭击他的怪物正在攻击我们整个国家.
31An assassin tried to silence him with a bullet, but he failed because together we will ensure that his voice,一个刺客试图用子弹压制他 但他失败了 因为一起我们会确保他的声音
32his message, and his legacy will live on for countless generations to come.他的遗言和遗产将永存 无数世代的后代。
33Today, because of this heinous act, Charlie's voice has become bigger and grander than ever before,今天,由于这一令人发指的行为,查理的声音变得比以往任何时候都大而宏伟,
34and it's not even close.它甚至没有接近。
35May God bless his memory, may God watch over his family, and may God bless the United States of America.愿上帝保佑他的记忆,愿上帝保佑他的家庭,愿上帝保佑美利坚合众国。
36Thank you.谢谢
37Joining me now is the author of groundbreaking works, International Bestsellers,现在加入我的行列 是开创性作品的作者 国际畅销书店
38his latest on democracies and death cults, Douglas Murray.他最新的民主与死亡邪教 道格拉斯·默里
39Let's start with the murder of Charlie Kirk, one of the brightest and bravest voices of his generation,让我们从查理・柯克被谋杀开始 他这一代最聪明最勇敢的声音之一
40a genuinely decent man, a father of two, shot dead at the age of 31.一个真正的正直的人,一个两个父亲,在31岁时被枪杀。
41At the type of event that had really become synonymous with his name,在真正成为他的名字同义词的事件类型上,
42he understood the importance of robust debate, of maintaining dialogue with your ideological opponents.他理解与意识形态对手保持对话的重要性。
43When people stop talking, really bad stuff sucks.当人们停止说话, 真正的坏东西烂。
44When marriages stop talking, divorce happens.当婚姻停止交谈时,离婚就会发生.
45When civilizations stop talking, civil war ensues.当文明停止对话时,内战随之而来。
46When you stop having a human connection with someone you disagree with,当你不再与你不同意的人有人类联系时
47it becomes a lot easier to want to commit violence against that group.想要对这个团体实施暴力就容易多了。
48What we as a culture have to get back to is being able to have reasonable disagreement where violence is not an option.我们作为一个文化必须恢复的是,在暴力不是一个选择的情况下,能够有合理的分歧。
49Douglas, this is a heartbreaking, unimaginable loss.道格拉斯,这是一个令人心碎,难以想象的损失。
50Yeah, we're speaking just a few hours after the murder of Charlie Kirk,是的,我们是在查理・柯克被杀后的几小时
51and I suppose, like everyone, my thoughts are with Charlie,我想,和大家一样, 我的想法与查理,
52but also his wife, his young wife, and his two young children that he leaves behind.他的妻子,他的女儿,和他留下的两个小孩。
53It's an extraordinary, appalling act of violence,这是一个非凡的,可怕的暴力行动,
54and I wish I could say that it's completely surprising,我希望我能说 这完全令人惊讶,
55but it isn't because, of course, we've had assassination attempts on President Trump,但这并不是因为,当然,我们曾试图暗杀特朗普总统,
56who Charlie Kirk has been a very vocal supporter and ally of for many years now,查理·柯克多年来一直非常声名狼藉的支持者和盟友
57and there have been many threats over the years against Charlie himself.几年来,查理本人受到许多威胁
58What we just heard him saying in that video is something that Charlie said often, and it's completely true.我们刚刚听到他在录像里说的话 是查理经常说的,这是完全真实的。
59He spent a lot of his energies since he first came onto the scene at the young age of about 18 or so and founded Turning Point.他从18岁左右的年轻时才来到现场,并创立了"转角"(Turning Point),就花费了大量精力.
60Since then, he had always made an effort to stress this point,此后,他一直努力强调这一点,
61that yes, you need to be able to talk, you need to have differences of opinion out in the public square,是的,你需要能够说话, 你需要有意见分歧 在公共广场上,
62and that it is the best way to avoid a dissent into political violence.并且这是避免持不同意见的政治暴力的最佳办法。
63And although he made that point so often, so many of his critics,尽管他经常提出这一点, 这么多他的批评者,
64most of whom I suspect really never listened to anything that Charlie said, demonized him,我怀疑大部分人 从来没有听过查理的话 妖魔化了他
65misrepresented him, and did that classic thing that unfortunately so much of the left does,歪曲了他 做了那件经典的事 很不幸的左手做了很多
66which is to regard their political opponents not just as wrong, but as evil.也就是把他们的政治对手 不仅视为错误,而且视为邪恶
67And this is something that many of us have pointed out over the years.这是我们很多人多年来指出的。
68Most conservatives tend to think that the left is wrong, but not that it is certainly not in its entirety evil.大多数保守派倾向于认为左派是错误的,但并不认为它肯定不是完全的邪恶.
69But that favor is not returned the other way around.但这种恩惠不是反过来的
70And so we have people routinely claiming that mainstream conservative voices like Charlie Kirk's are somehow extreme,我们经常有人声称 像查理·柯克这样主流保守派的声音 有点极端
71and that they somehow themselves are causing harm.而他们自己却在伤害自己。
72Think of all the people in recent years who Charlie has talked about, who you and I, Rita, have talked about,想想近年来查理谈论过的人 你和我丽塔谈论过的人
73who have said that words are violence and that countering ideas or questioning ideas is literally killing people and much more.他们说过,言语是暴力,反对思想或质疑思想实际上在杀人,甚至更多。
74Well, here we see once again the reality of it.好了,在这里,我们再次看到它的现实。
75Words are not violence.语言不是暴力。
76Shooting somebody in the throat is violence.射中喉咙就是暴力
77And I really hope that a moment like this, as well as thinking of Charlie and his family,我真的希望这样的时刻 以及查理和他的家人
78people think if they're on the side that has been demonizing their opponents to such an extent and dehumanizing them,人们会认为如果他们站在一边 一直把对手妖魔化到这样程度 并且把他们非人化
79I hope they think themselves about the fruits of their own words.我希望他们能思考自己言辞的成果。
80And Charlie was rare.查理是罕见的。
81He had the ability to persuade so many from across the political divide.他有能力从政治分歧中说服这么多人。
82That's rare these days.这几天很少见
83It made him enormously influential, particularly amongst young men.这使他有很大的影响力,特别是在年轻人中。
84And, Douglas, it was such a wholesome message at its heart.而且,道格拉斯,这是如此 一个美好的信息 在它的心脏。
85It was about prioritizing family and religion and truth.这是关于家庭、宗教和真理的优先考虑。
86And you spoke about the hate he received.你提到他受到的仇恨
87It was so unhinged, so ugly, a lot of it from media.它是如此的不hing,如此丑陋, 很多来自媒体。
88And it continued even after he was shot.甚至在他中枪之后,它仍在继续。
89Let me play you a little of the discussion on MSNBC earlier today.今天早些时候,我给你们播放一下关于MSNBC的讨论。
90He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this,他是其中最分裂, 特别是分裂的年轻人物之一,
91who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups.他们不断推动这种仇恨言论或针对某些群体。
92And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions.我总是回到仇恨的思想中,导致仇恨的言语,然后导致仇恨的行动.
93I'm not going to say what I want to say.我不会说我想说的话
94What's your response, Douglas, to what you just heard?道格拉斯,你刚才听到的是什么反应?
95那是Matthew Dowd在MSNBC之前。
96Well, I mean, the obvious thing is to make a rhetorical point about what Dowd said there,嗯,我的意思是,很明显的事情是 做一个修辞性的观点 关于道德在那里说,
97which is what if somebody had hateful thoughts about him?如果有人对他有恨意呢?
98What if his hateful words that he said just there led to somebody shooting him or loved one of his or a friend of his in the throat?如果他刚才说的讨厌的话 导致有人朝他开枪 或爱他的一个朋友 喉咙里的人
99Would he exercise the same attempt at logical consistency then?那么他是否也会在逻辑上保持一致?
100I would think not, probably.我想可能不会
101But yes, that is an absolutely classic example of smearing the only just dead.但是,是的,这是一个绝对经典的例子 抹黑唯一刚刚死去的人。
102And what Matthew Dowd said there is completely shameful.而马修·道德所说的完全是可耻的.
103And if MSNBC had any shame, they would have said that immediately to him and taken him off the air.如果MSNBC有任何羞耻的话,他们会立刻对他说,然后把他从广播中带走.
104What Charlie Kirk argued for throughout his public life, which was effectively throughout his adult life,查理·柯克所争论的 整个公共生活 在他的成年生活中都是有效的
105were very straightforward things that were not controversial until very, very recently.非常直截了当的事情 直到最近才引起争议
106For instance, what this ignoramus Dowd thinks is controversial if he bothered ever to listen to anything that Charlie Kirk said,比方说,这个无知的道德所认为的,是有争议的,如果他不听查理·柯克的话,
107and I doubt he did before deciding to smear him before his corpse is cold.我怀疑他在他的尸体冷冻之前 曾决定给他抹黑
108Charlie Kirk说过的 是两种性别
109There are men and there are women.有男子有妇女.
110He said America is a tremendous country and he was enormously proud of it and an extraordinary patriot.他说,美国是一个巨大的国家,他为此感到非常骄傲,并且是一个非凡的爱国者。
111Neither of these things were controversial until very, very recently.这两件事直到最近都没有引起争议。
112Charlie Kirk argued for biblical values, for Judeo-Christian values.查理·柯克主张圣经价值,为犹太-基督教价值.
113That wasn't controversial until extremely recently.这直到最近才引起争议
114None of what Charlie Kirk argued for was in any way hateful.查理·柯克所争辩的一切 都毫无仇恨
115And I wish, as I say, that people like Dowd, MSNBC and many others realize that the hate has been so disproportionately coming from them.我希望,正如我所言,像道德,MSNBC和许多其他人 都意识到,仇恨 如此不成比例地来自他们。
116It's them who say that saying that America is a good country is somehow hateful.是他们说说美国是个好国家 有点让人讨厌
117It's them that says that saying that there are two biological sexes is somehow hateful.是他们说说有两种生理性别 有点让人讨厌
118No, it isn't.不,这不是。
119None of that was ever hateful.这些都从未有过仇恨
120It was a statement of fact or of opinion.这是事实陈述或意见陈述。
121And that used to be allowed in America and that used to be respected in America.这在美国曾经是允许的 在美国也曾经受到尊重
122And it's a terrible, terrible demonstration of where America and the West has come to.它是一个可怕的,可怕的演示 美国和西方的到来。
123That the statement of obvious truths and the statement of opinions that millions and millions of people hold fast to should be smeared in this way.显而易见的真理的说法和数百万人坚持的观点的说法,应该这样抹黑。
124Dowd said plenty more and there's been other media outlets who have disgraced themselves today.Dowd说了很多, 还有其他媒体今天羞辱自己。
125Just to clarify, he made those comments after Charlie was shot, but before his death was announced.为了澄清,他在查理被枪杀后发表了这些评论,但在宣布他的死亡之前.
126But shameful at any time to be saying that, to be blaming the victim for speaking the truth.但可耻的是,在任何时间都这样说, 指责受害者说出真相。
127Douglas, the next generation of young men in particular are becoming increasingly conservative, increasingly right wing,道格拉斯,特别是下一代年轻人 越来越保守,越来越右翼,
128rejecting so much of the leftist ideology that's been shoved down their throats by the culture, by schools and universities.拒绝太多的左派意识形态 被文化、学校和大学 塞进他们的喉咙
129And like yourself, Charlie Kirk has played a significant role in that.和你一样,查理·柯克在这方面也发挥了重要作用.
130In opening the eyes of so many young Americans, young people across the West and making them unafraid to speak,打开这么多美国年轻人的眼睛, 西方各地的年轻人, 让他们不害怕说话,
131making them say their opinions boldly and putting forward an alternative view to the prevailing dogma.让他们大胆地表达自己的意见,并提出替代主流教条的观点。
132And Douglas, he always did it so politely, even in the face of terrible abuse.而道格拉斯,他总是这么有礼貌,甚至面对可怕的虐待.
133I used to play his videos on this program all the time, the interactions where he would cop this ugly, unhinged abuse.我经常在这个节目上播放他的视频 他的交互能力会让这个丑陋无耻的虐待发生
134And he would always remain calm and politely dismantle the radical left's arguments.他将永远保持冷静,礼貌地拆除激进左翼的论点.
135In the face of terrible abuse, and they still shot him.面对可怕的虐待,他们仍然向他开枪.
136No matter how much you spoke about the importance of dialogue, about not demonizing your opponents,无论你多谈论对话的重要性 也不论你如何谈论不妖魔化你的对手
137about engaging and making sure that we're at a point where we can still talk to each other.关于接触和确保我们处于一个 我们仍然可以交谈的时刻。
138And they still shot him.他们还开枪打他
139We'll find out who they is, I suppose, in the coming hours and days.我想我们会在未来数小时和数天里 查出他们是谁
140I think that whoever the shooter turns out to be, I do hope that people who listened to Charlie,我想无论枪手是谁 我希望那些听查理的话的人
141who were inspired by him, he was an extraordinary communicator.他受到他的启发 他是一个非凡的通讯员。
142I mean, his success, his earned success over the years of his adult life came about我的意思是,他的成功, 他赚到的成功 在他的成年生活多年
143because he had an enormous skill at speaking to people and for people.因为他对人说话和为人说话的能力很强
144And he was enormously persuasive.他很有说服力
145He was enormously skilled and talented.他非常有才华
146And as I say, it needs to be said again, an incredible patriot.正如我所说的,它需要再次说, 一个令人难以置信的爱国者。
147I hope that after this, there will be many people, I suspect, particularly young people who learned a lot from Charlie,我希望在这之后,会有很多人,我怀疑, 尤其是从查理那里学到很多东西的年轻人,
148who admired Charlie and much more, who will be tempted at a moment like this他崇拜查理和更多 在这样的时刻会受到诱惑
149to sink to the kind of level that they perceive in their opponents.沉到他们从对手身上看到的高度
150I think these moments can be real crossroads.我认为,这些时刻可能是真正的十字路口。
151And I hope that all of those young men and women across America and elsewhere我希望美国和其他地方的所有年轻男女
152who were inspired and educated and informed by Charlie,他们受到查理的启发和教育
153realize that their task now is to pick up where he left off and to emulate what he did现在他们的任务就是找出他留下的东西 模仿他的所作所为
154and to emulate the courtesy, the patriotism, the decency that he showed in his public life并模仿他所表现的礼貌、爱国主义和在公共生活中的体面
155and that they don't sink into the kind of behavior which they see among their opponents.他们不会沉浸在他们的对手中
156I hope that is the case because you say, Rita, Charlie always demonstrated such considerable courtesy and decency我希望是这样,因为你说,丽塔,查理 总是表现出如此的礼貌和体面
157even to his political opponents who were screaming abuse at him and much more.甚至对他的政治对手 尖叫着虐待他 还有更多。
158So it could be, as I say, it is only hours after this terrible news has come through,所以,正如我所言,这个可怕的消息传了几小时后
159it could be one of those moments where some people sink down and meet their opponents on their opponent's terms,这可能是一个时刻 一些人沉没 并满足他们的对手的条件,
160but it would be a much better thing for America and for all of us, I think, if we rise above that.但是这对美国和我们所有人来说是件更好的事, 我想,如果我们超越这一点。
161And remember that what Charlie said and was saying right up until the moment he was shot记住查理说的话 一直说到他中枪
162remains as true now as it was all these years, which is that, yes, we need to be able to explore ideas,与这些年一样,现在仍然如此, 也就是说,是的,我们需要能够探索想法,
163we need to be able to talk, we need to be able to talk across divides.我们需要能够交谈,我们需要能够跨越分歧交谈。
164And that if we lose that, then people resort to violence.如果我们失去它,那么人们就会诉诸暴力。
165And how terrible it is that something that he perceived so clearly and said so often多么可怕的事情,他如此清晰地看待 并经常说
166should be something which has now been proven by the evil person who's taken his life away.应该是被夺去生命的恶人所证实的
167And he was always so brave.他总是那么勇敢。
168He talked about speaking truth.他说的是实话
169And in the past week, he has spoken a lot of truth, a lot of uncomfortable truths about crime in the US,在过去的一周里,他讲了很多事实, 很多不舒服的真相 美国的犯罪,
170particularly after the murder of the Ukrainian, young Ukrainian woman down in North Carolina特别是在北卡罗莱纳州 乌克兰年轻乌克兰女人被杀之后
171and the media's reluctance initially to touch that story at all.以及媒体最初不愿触及这个故事。
172The overrepresentation of a segment of the population in the violent crime stats.暴力犯罪统计数据中一部分人口比例过高。
173So many really crucial issues, Douglas, that should be spoken about.道格拉斯,应该说到很多非常关键的问题。
174But the media is perhaps afraid to so many commentators don't want to be cast as racist or bigots但媒体也许害怕 这么多评论家 不想被说成种族主义或偏执
175or be called hateful like Charlie was for stating facts, for stating facts that may be uncomfortable.或被称为仇恨,像查理是 说事实, 说可能不舒服的事实。
176But how are you going to ever tackle these issues if you don't actually even acknowledge them?但是,如果你甚至不承认这些问题, 你将如何解决这些问题?
177Absolutely.当然
178And what happens if you don't acknowledge issues, which is staring everyone in the face,如果你不承认问题 会怎样呢?
179is you push them down under and they bubble away and evil things come up.你把他们推下去,然后他们泡出来 邪恶的东西出现。
180You seed an evil harvest when you do that.你这样做就种下邪恶的收获
181I suppose there's one other thing I would say about that, which is that after an act of violence like this,我想还有一件事我想说,那就是 在这样暴力之后,
182as well as great anger and great rage, which many people will have,以及许多人的愤怒和愤怒,
183there will be some people who will feel in some way afraid or cowed by this.会有一些人会以某种方式感到害怕或被它吓倒。
184They may not admit to it.他们可能不会承认
185They may not wish to explore it.他们可能不想探讨这个问题。
186But it's understandable.但这是可以理解的。
187There was no reason why somebody saying what Charlie Kirk said should ever have been the subject of violence,没有理由有人说 查理·柯克说的话 本来应该是暴力的对象
188the object of violence.暴力的目标。
189But I hope that people realize again that although at such a moment they can,但我希望人们再次意识到, 虽然在这样一个时刻,他们可以,
190they might feel it's a good time to pipe down or not make themselves a target,他们可能觉得现在是时候 沉住气来或不成为目标,
191that actually the much better thing to do is for everyone to be a bit more courageous.实际上,更好的事情是让每个人都更加勇敢。
192For everyone to be a bit stronger in standing up for what they believe to be true,为了让每个人都能更坚强地 捍卫他们相信的真相
193for stating facts that they see before their eyes.说出他们在眼前看到的事实
194By getting out there, by making their voices heard.让他们的声音被听到
195You know, I think often of after a previous assassination a good decade ago in the offices of Charlie Hebdo,你知道,我经常想在十年前 在查理·赫布多的办公室里 遇刺之后
196I remember what my friend Ayan Hirsi Ali said, and perhaps it's as applicable now as it was then,我记得我的朋友Ayan Hirsi Ali说过的话 也许现在和当时一样适用
197which is that if there are people who seem to be in this position that Charlie Ayan found himself in如果有人 似乎处于这种地位 查理·阿扬发现自己在
198of being this object of hate as the cartoonists and the editors of Charlie Hebdo were a decade ago,作为漫画家和Charlie Hebdo的编辑 十年前的仇恨对象
199I hope that people remember now what Ayan said then,我希望人们现在记得阿扬当时说的话,
200which is the best thing is to spread the risk around.最好把风险分散开来
201If people are going to believe that it's respectable or reasonable to target conservative voices with violence,如果人们会相信 用暴力攻击保守派的声音是值得尊敬或合理的,
202let's all speak up a bit more.让我们都大声点。
203Let's all take a step forward.让我们都向前迈一步。
204People don't need to be heroes or martyrs or anything, but they could be a bit more heroic.人们不需要成为英雄或烈士或任何东西,但他们可以更英勇一点.
205And speak up a bit more and be proud a bit more for the things you should feel pride in, like your nation.大声点,为那些你应该骄傲的事骄傲点 就像你的国家一样
206And if people do that, that would be in the midst of this awful time,如果人们这样做, 这将是在这个可怕的时间,
207it would be a tribute and one which I think Charlie would himself be very proud of.这将是一个致敬, 我认为查理会非常自豪。
208Beautifully said.说得好
209And I think you're so right.我想你是对的
210Let's step up and spread the risk.举起手来,分散风险.
211Thank you so much for your time tonight.谢谢你今晚能来
212It's a pleasure.幸会
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