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时间	英文	中文
0:11	I am glad to see that the Israelis haven't taken all the water as they do in the West Bank.	我很高兴看到以色列人没有像他们在西岸那样把水都拿走。
0:22	I also want to congratulate the Union for creating the climatic conditions we have in Palestine,	我还要祝贺联盟创造了我们在巴勒斯坦的气候条件,
0:31	which makes it easier to be in touch with reality.	这使得更容易接触现实。
0:37	Let me start by saying that here is a proposition for peace after hearing Khen.	我首先要说,这是在听取Khen的意见之后提出的和平建议。
0:45	I'm sure the Iraqi government, in fact it already made such a statement,	我敢肯定,伊拉克政府, 事实上,它已经做了这样的声明,
0:49	would welcome you and your family back to Iraq	欢迎你和你的家人回到伊拉克
0:53	and let Radha and Arwa and her family go back to Palestine.	让拉德哈、阿尔瓦和她的家人回到巴勒斯坦。
0:58	Here is an idea for peace.	这是和平的想法。
1:08	Now, Jews in the Arab world never thought that in any difficult moment in their history	现在,阿拉伯世界的犹太人从来没有想过在他们历史上的任何困难时刻
1:15	before the arrival of Zionism,	在锡安主义到来之前

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序号	英文	中文
1	I am glad to see that the Israelis haven't taken all the water as they do in the West Bank.	我很高兴看到以色列人没有像他们在西岸那样把水都拿走。
2	I also want to congratulate the Union for creating the climatic conditions we have in Palestine,	我还要祝贺联盟创造了我们在巴勒斯坦的气候条件,
3	which makes it easier to be in touch with reality.	这使得更容易接触现实。
4	Let me start by saying that here is a proposition for peace after hearing Khen.	我首先要说,这是在听取Khen的意见之后提出的和平建议。
5	I'm sure the Iraqi government, in fact it already made such a statement,	我敢肯定,伊拉克政府, 事实上,它已经做了这样的声明,
6	would welcome you and your family back to Iraq	欢迎你和你的家人回到伊拉克
7	and let Radha and Arwa and her family go back to Palestine.	让拉德哈、阿尔瓦和她的家人回到巴勒斯坦。
8	Here is an idea for peace.	这是和平的想法。
9	Now, Jews in the Arab world never thought that in any difficult moment in their history	现在,阿拉伯世界的犹太人从来没有想过在他们历史上的任何困难时刻
10	before the arrival of Zionism,	在锡安主义到来之前
11	they'd not ever thought that any solution for a difficult time that they might have had	他们从来没有想过任何解决方案在困难时期他们可能有
12	is the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine at the expense of the Palestinians.	在巴勒斯坦建立一个以巴勒斯坦人为代价的犹太国家。
13	When Zionism arrived, shut up, when the Zionism arrived,	当锡安主义到来时,闭嘴,当锡安主义到来时,
14	then the relationship between Jews, I refuse to answer.	然后犹太人的关系我拒绝回答
15	Point of order has been raised.	程序问题已经提出。
16	Is it appropriate to tell another speaker to shut up when they raise a point of information?	是否应该让另一名发言者在提出问题时闭嘴?
17	I did not hear shut up.	我没有听到闭嘴。
18	Sorry, excuse me.	对不起,对不起。
19	Order!	肃静!
20	It was shut up rather than shut up, which is quite frankly different.	它被闭上了嘴,而不是闭上了嘴,这与事实大不相同。
21	Anyway, I won't say it again.	总之,我不会再说了
22	Can I remind all speakers to discuss with one another graciously?	我可否提醒所有发言者相互友好地进行讨论?
23	Thank you.	谢谢
24	So, when Zionism appeared, then the relationship deteriorated	所以,当锡安主义出现, 然后关系恶化
25	between the Jewish communities and the Muslim communities and the Christian communities in the Arab world.	在阿拉伯世界,犹太社区与穆斯林社区和基督教社区之间。
26	Zionism was not only a disaster for the Palestinians,	犹太复国主义不仅是巴勒斯坦人的灾难,
27	it was a disaster for the Arab world,	这是阿拉伯世界的灾难,
28	and it was a disaster for the Arab Jews who lived in the Arab world.	对生活在阿拉伯世界的阿拉伯犹太人来说,这是一场灾难。
29	Refused.	拒绝。
30	The motion that we have today goes beyond the question,	我们今天提出的动议超出了问题的范围,
31	does Israel want peace or doesn't want peace?	以色列想要和平还是不要和平?
32	The question is far more important.	这个问题更为重要。
33	What does Israel want?	以色列想怎样?
34	And what do we do knowing what Israel wants?	我们知道以色列想要什么吗?
35	Not in 1980, not in 1990.	1980年没有,1990年没有.
36	What does Israel want today?	以色列今天想要什么?
37	Today there are six million refugees, because of Israel,	今天有600万难民,因为以色列,
38	of the current government of Israel.	以色列现政府。
39	Two millions in Gaza Strip and the West Bank,	加沙地带和西岸的200万人,
40	one million in Lebanon,	黎巴嫩100万
41	and three million in the greater Tehran area.	和大德黑兰地区的三百万
42	Is this the kind of state that we have to discuss whether it wants peace,	这是那种状态我们必须讨论它是否想要和平,
43	or isn't that a state that wants to destroy, to occupy, to dispossess?	或者说,那不是一个想要摧毁,占领,处置女权的国家吗?
44	Isn't this a state that endangers not only the life of Palestinians and Lebanese in the South,	这不是一个不仅危及南部巴勒斯坦人和黎巴嫩人生命的国家吗?
45	it endangers the stability of the Middle East,	它危及中东的稳定,
46	and further afield, it is now a state that endangers the whole international system of justice and order.	它现在是一个危及整个国际司法和秩序制度的国家。
47	So when you vote today, you're not voting only on the question does Israel want peace or not.	所以,当你们今天投票时,你们不只是在这个问题上投票,以色列是否想要和平?
48	You are voting what do we do with such an aggressive, dangerous political regime	你正在投票,我们怎么对付这样一个侵略,危险的政权?
49	that every day is responsible for the killing of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip,	每天都在加沙地带杀害巴勒斯坦人,
50	in the West Bank, in South Lebanon,	西岸,黎巴嫩南部,
51	and threatens the stability and the peace of people all over the region.	威胁着整个地区人民的稳定和和平。
52	You are also voting for something else.	你也投了别的东西
53	You are voting to the motion that is hidden within this idea that Israel is an apartheid state.	你们正在投票表决这个隐藏在以色列是一个种族隔离国家的想法中的动议。
54	Very much as claimed by the Human Rights Watch Organization, Amnesty International, and Israeli human rights, Bezalem.	正如人权观察组织、大赦国际和以色列人权组织贝扎莱姆所声称的那样。
55	Can you imagine a debate in the Oxford Union at the heyday of apartheid South Africa	你能想象一下,在南非种族隔离的兴盛时期, 牛津联盟会举行一场辩论吗?
56	with a cheering leader group, kind of cheering group, that supports apartheid and votes for apartheid?	一个欢呼的领袖团体, 一种欢呼的团体, 支持种族隔离和投票支持种族隔离?
57	Surely you have enough modicum of decency in you to vote against the current Israel.	你当然有足够的正直感,可以投票反对目前的以色列。
58	Don't think only about the past.	不思惟过去.
59	The current Israel is an apartheid state that is now threatening a whole region,	目前的以色列是一个种族隔离国家,现在威胁着整个区域,
60	and already the civil societies around the world, including a large number of Jews,	以及全世界包括大量犹太人在内的民间社会,
61	find their governments indifference, and in some cases complicity with their states, and unacceptable.	发现他们的政府漠不关心,有时还和他们的国家串通,这是不可接受的。
62	This is what took one million young Italians to the street in Rome.	罗马有100万意大利青年走上街头
63	This is why we had one million demonstrations in London.	这就是为什么我们在伦敦举行了一百万次示威。
64	These are not anti-Semitic people, as some of them are also Jews.	这些不是反犹太人,因为有些人也是犹太人.
65	They are not self-hating Jews.	他们不是自恨的犹太人。
66	These are people who understand what injustice means,	这等人,知道不义的意义,
67	and they are fighting with all they can against this injustice.	他们正在竭尽所能反抗这种不公正。
68	The fact that Zionism started as a colonialist project is the crux of the matter.	锡安主义起源于殖民主义项目,是问题的关键所在.
69	When Theodor Herzl was going around the world trying to recruit support for the Zionist project,	当西奥多·赫兹尔环游世界试图为犹太复国主义计划争取支持时
70	he wrote to Cecile Rhodes, one of the biggest British colonialists who created Rhodesia.	他写信给塞西尔·罗得斯,他是创造罗得西亚的最大英国殖民者之一.
71	I want to interest you in another colonialist project, namely the colonization of Palestine.	我想对另一个殖民主义项目,即巴勒斯坦殖民化项目感兴趣。
72	When in 1900 the Zionist forced congress convened in London,	1900年,犹太复国主义者在伦敦召开强制大会时,
73	they proudly displayed products, in their words, from the Zionist colonies in Palestine.	他们自豪地展示了来自巴勒斯坦犹太复国主义殖民地的产品。
74	Colonialism, when Zionism started, was not a dirty word, and therefore Zionists used it without any problem.	殖民主义在锡安主义开始的时候不是脏话,因此犹太复国主义者毫无问题地使用它.
75	When colonialism became a problem from a PR perspective, then suddenly the whole narrative of Israel changed.	当殖民主义从公关的角度成为一个问题时,以色列的整个叙述突然改变。
76	We were not colonialists, we were a liberation movement, we fought against the British, we were returning to our homeland.	我们不是殖民主义者,我们是一个解放运动,我们与英国人进行了斗争,我们正在返回祖国。
77	But the early Zionists understood that only with violence and coercion,	但早期的犹太复国主义者明白只有用暴力和胁迫,
78	they can plant at the heart of the Arab world a European Jewish state.	他们可以在阿拉伯世界的心脏种植一个欧洲犹太国家.
79	If you want to maintain it, you have to use more coercion, more violence.	如果你想维持它,你必须使用更多的胁迫,更多的暴力.
80	Of course there is resistance of the indigenous population.	当然,土著人口有反抗。
81	Of course there is an anti-colonialist struggle, and anti-colonialist struggles in history are not a walk in a rose garden.	当然还有反殖民主义的斗争,历史上的反殖民主义斗争不是在玫瑰园里走的.
82	Yes, they can be violent themselves, but this is a cycle of violence that begins with the colonization, not with the anti-colonialist reaction.	是的,他们自己可能是暴力的,但这是一个暴力循环,始于殖民,而不是反殖民主义的反应。
83	So when you are voting today, think about this whole tragic idea, really, that indeed Jews were persecuted.	所以当你们今天投票时, 想想这整个悲惨的想法, 实际上,犹太人确实受到了迫害。
84	Jews were suffering from genocide in Europe.	犹太人在欧洲遭受种族灭绝。
85	They were suffering from anti-Semitism.	他们深受反犹太主义之害。
86	But was the solution to plant at the heart of the Arab world, at the heart of the Muslim world,	但是在阿拉伯世界的核心穆斯林世界的核心
87	a European Jewish state on the bayonets of the British Empire?	大英帝国刺刀上的欧洲犹太国家?
88	Apologies, a point of order has been raised.	对不起,有一个程序问题已经提出。
89	He said to me twice to shut up during his speech.	他两次在演讲时对我说要闭嘴
90	Because you are disrupting me every two minutes.	因为你每两分钟打搅我
91	Because I didn't like what you said.	因为我不喜欢你说的
92	Sorry, one second.	对不起,等一下。
93	And I didn't disrupt you.	我没有打扰你
94	Professor, can I please ask if a point of information is raised and you would not like to take a point of information, you can just say no, thank you.	教授,我可以问一下,如果有人提出一个问题,而你不愿提出一个问题,你可以只是拒绝,谢谢。
95	Can I also ask that you do not repeatedly ask points of information one after another if they are rejected, and that is preference of the speaker.	我还要问,如果一个一个接一个地问一些问题,这是发言者的偏好。
96	Thank you.	谢谢
97	Yes, I know it's not easy to hear the truth.	是的,我知道这不容易听到真相。
98	Now, this is a project that had to be maintained by force, this kind of idea.	这是一个必须用武力维持的项目, 这种想法。
99	And you needed the British bayonets, the British power.	而你需要英国刺刀英国的力量
100	So when someone shows you, you see the football team was Jewish.	所以当有人给你看的时候,你看足球队是犹太人。
101	The currency was Jewish.	货币是犹太人的。
102	The posters were Jewish.	海报是犹太人的。
103	Of course they were, because Britain was behind it, not because the majority of the people were Palestinians and objected to the idea of the Jewish state.	当然,因为英国是幕后主使,而不是因为大多数人民是巴勒斯坦人,反对犹太国家的思想.
104	The Palestinians from the very beginning of the Zionist project insisted on two principles.	巴勒斯坦人从犹太复国主义项目一开始就坚持两项原则。
105	And you can see it in all their motions given to the various inquiry commissions that came one after the other.	你可以在他们给各个调查委员会的所有动议中看到它,这些委员会一个接一个地出现。
106	They insisted on two principles which the West claimed it exported to the Middle East in order to show that after 400 years of Ottoman rule,	他们坚持西方声称它出口到中东的两项原则,以表明在奥斯曼统治了400年后,
107	now the Middle East can move to a more enlightened, progressive, westernized future.	现在,中东能够走向一个更加开明、进步和西方化的未来。
108	One principle was democracy.	一项原则是民主。
109	The other principle was self-determination.	另一项原则是自决。
110	The Palestinians said, great, we are for democracy.	巴勒斯坦人说,我们赞成民主。
111	Let us vote of what Palestine should be when there were 90%.	让我们投票表决巴勒斯坦在90%的时候应该是什么。
112	Let us allow us to have self-determination as you promised, and they promised in November 1918,	让我们像你们承诺的那样实现自决,他们在1918年11月承诺,
113	Britain and France promised five peoples in the Arab world, and one of them was the Palestinians, that they will respect the right for self-determination.	英国和法国向阿拉伯世界的五个人民,其中之一是巴勒斯坦人保证,他们将尊重自决权。
114	On the ground itself, Britain allowed the Zionist project to totally destroy the Palestinian aspiration for democracy and the Palestinian aspiration for self-determination.	在当地,英国允许犹太复国主义项目完全摧毁巴勒斯坦的民主愿望和巴勒斯坦的自决愿望。
115	And it makes sense if you think about it.	如果你考虑一下,那也是有道理的。
116	If you build a state in 1948 and you want it to be both Jewish and democratic, what do you do if the majority of the people are not Jewish?	如果你在1948年建立一个国家,并且希望它既犹太化又民主,那么如果大多数人不是犹太人,你会怎么做?
117	You downsize the electorate by ethnically cleansing them in 1948.	你通过1948年的种族清洗来缩小选民人数。
118	So you go to the first election in 1949 knowing you don't have to fear the contradiction between the idea of democracy and the reality of demography.	所以你们去参加1949年的第一次选举,知道你们不必担心民主思想和人口现实之间的矛盾.
119	This is the whole nature of what we call liberal Zionism.	这就是我们所谓的自由主义的本质.
120	The sense that you can reconcile somehow to have an ethnic, racist state and still be loyal to universal values such as democracy or socialism or liberalism.	一种感觉,即你可以以某种方式调和,以建立一个种族、种族主义的国家,并且仍然忠于民主或社会主义或自由主义等普遍价值观。
121	I ask you not only to vote today for the motion.	我请你们今天不仅投票支持这项动议。
122	I ask you to think seriously with your representative in the parliament, in the government.	我请你和你在议会、政府的代表好好想想
123	What does it mean that Israel is an apartheid state?	以色列是一个种族隔离国家是什么意思?
124	What should the British government do in order not to mediate between Jews and Arabs, but to save the Palestinians from further ethnic cleansing, genocide and dispossession?	英国政府为了不调解犹太人和阿拉伯人,而拯救巴勒斯坦人免遭进一步的种族清洗,种族灭绝和剥夺,应该做些什么呢?
125	You will be on the right side of history and you do it.	你会站在历史的正确一边,你去做。
126	So go out in the right door so that you will be at peace with yourself and you could say to the next generation, I was there in Oxford and I showed my moral constitution,	所以走在正确的门里这样你就能安然无恙并且你可以对下一代说我在牛津大学展示了我的道德宪法
127	my moral courage and I was not afraid of intimidation and provocation by people who have the courage today, really I admire it, to stand for an apartheid state.	我和我的道德勇气不惧怕今天有勇气的人的恐吓和挑衅,我非常钦佩他们支持种族隔离国家。
128	Thank you.	谢谢
129	So I will take the good advice of the young student here who said that here people discuss the proposition and the proposition only.	因此,我接受这位年轻学生的好建议,他说这里的人只讨论这个提议和这个提议。
130	They do not make up new propositions and you only have to actually prove the counter case.	他们没有提出新的建议而你只需要证明这个案子
131	And this is what I will proceed to do.	这就是我接下来要做的。
132	No yelling, just facts.	不要大喊大叫只是事实
133	Israel wanted peace, truly, repeatedly.	以色列确实一再希望和平。
134	And yet, from the minute the United Nations voted for the partition plan in 1947, we have been under attack.	然而,从联合国1947年投票支持分治计划的那一刻起,我们就一直受到攻击。
135	The Arabs threatened to use force to prevent the establishment of a Jewish state on any part of our homeland and they proceeded to make good on that threat.	阿拉伯人威胁要使用武力,阻止我们家园的任何地方建立一个犹太国家,他们着手消除这一威胁。
136	And what did the partition plan call for anyway?	分治计划到底要什么?
137	Was it some grave injustice to the Arabs?	这是对阿拉伯人的严重不公正吗?
138	No.	没有
139	Most of the fertile land was to go to what would have become a Palestinian Arab state, while the Jewish state would have been relegated to three pieces of barely contiguous, mostly Arab, non-Arab territory.	大部分肥沃的土地是去一个本来会成为一个巴勒斯坦阿拉伯国家的土地,而犹太国家则被降格为三块几乎没有毗连的领土,大多是阿拉伯非阿拉伯领土。
140	And yet, the Jews to this said yes, but the Arabs said no, because even that was too much.	然而,犹太人说,是的,但阿拉伯人说,不是,因为即使这样也太多了。
141	Even that much self-determination for the Jews was too much.	即使犹太人的自决也太多了。
142	Because the idea of Jews being equal, sovereign, that's the problem that the Arabs had because you spoke of the norm in the Arab world.	因为犹太人是平等的,主权的观念,这就是阿拉伯人的问题,因为你谈到阿拉伯世界的规范.
143	Yes, the Jews, the Christians, could live in harmony as long as they knew their lower place.	是的,犹太人,基督徒,只要知道他们的下层位置,就可以和谐地生活.
144	And when they dared imagine themselves equal with a backbone, sovereign masters of their fate, indeed, that was the problem.	当他们敢于想象自己与一个骨干平等时,他们的命运掌握着主权,这确实是问题所在。
145	As soon as Jews dared imagine themselves equal, then violence was to follow.	只要犹太人敢于想象自己是平等的,那么暴力就会随之而来.
146	And indeed, the Palestinian Arab militias attacked.	事实上,巴勒斯坦阿拉伯民兵发动了攻击。
147	And then in May 1948, every Arab nation surrounding us and beyond invaded.	然后在1948年5月,我们周围的每一个阿拉伯国家都入侵。
148	And this is the only reason why there were any refugees from that war.	这是战争中难民的唯一原因。
149	The only reason, God.	这是唯一的原因,上帝。
150	Israel managed to survive the 1948 Arab War, and we would have been happy to just live in peace.	以色列得以在1948年阿拉伯战争中幸存下来,我们本可以高兴地生活在和平中。
151	Remember, at the end of the 1948 war, Jordan annexed the West Bank and Egypt administered Gaza.	记住,1948年战争结束时,约旦吞并了西岸,埃及管理加沙。
152	It's in your map.	在你的地图上
153	There was nothing, absolutely nothing, to prevent them from creating one more Arab state on these territories for the Palestinians.	没有任何东西可以阻止他们在这些领土上为巴勒斯坦人再建立一个阿拉伯国家。
154	They did not.	他们没有。
155	Instead, they chose to continue the war against Israel, which is how Israel came to control the West Bank and Gaza.	相反,他们选择继续对以色列发动战争,这就是以色列如何控制西岸和加沙。
156	It was not some aggressive land grab.	这不是侵略性的土地掠夺。
157	It was after multiple Arab armies surrounded us again.	那是在阿拉伯军队再次包围我们之后。
158	And in May 1967, announced to their credit, they were clear.	而在1967年5月,他们宣布了他们的名声,是明确的.
159	This is our chance Arabs to deal Israel a mortal blow of annihilation.	这是我们阿拉伯人对付以色列的机会。
160	And this is when we didn't control the West Bank and Gaza.	这时我们没有控制西岸和加沙。
161	Israel won that war in six days.	以色列在六天内赢得了这场战争。
162	But even then, we offered peace, making it as the legendary Ambassador Abba Ibn said,	但即便如此,我们仍提出要和平,正如传说中的阿巴·伊本大使所说,
163	I think he went to Cambridge.	我想他去了剑桥
164	I heard it's somewhat better.	我听说这样好多了
165	I went there.	我去过那里。
166	Riley observed that this was the first war in history that on the morrow, the victors sued for peace and the vanquish demanded unconditional surrender.	莱利观察到,这是历史上第一次在明天,胜利者起诉和平,胜利者要求无条件投降的战争.
167	Sound familiar?	听起来熟悉吗?
168	And what was the Arab and Palestinian response to Israel offering peace?	阿拉伯和巴勒斯坦对以色列提供和平的反应是什么?
169	No to peace with Israel.	反对与以色列和平相处。
170	No to recognition of Israel.	反对承认以色列。
171	No to negotiations.	不许谈判
172	But we still hoped for peace.	但我们仍然希望和平。
173	So we entered the also peace process in 1993.	因此,我们在1993年也进入了和平进程。
174	I was euphoric.	我很兴奋。
175	This is the euphoria of a people who want peace.	这是渴望和平的民族的喜悦。
176	And in September 2000, just when many Israelis, including myself, truly believe that a two state solution was closed.	而就在2000年9月,许多以色列人,包括我本人,确实相信两个国家的解决办法已经结束。
177	Palestinians launched the second Intifada escalating into a brutal campaign of suicide bombings that left over 1000 Israelis shred to bloody pieces with thousands more maimed for life.	巴勒斯坦人发动了第二次起义,升级为一场野蛮的自杀爆炸运动,使1 000多名以色列人碎尸万段,数千人终身致残。
178	Yet through all that, when in December 2000, President Bill Clinton put a peace deal on the table that would have given the Palestinians all of Gaza, 96% of the West Bank with comparable line swaps from within Israel,	然而,通过所有这些,当比尔·克林顿总统在2000年12月提出一项和平协定时,本可以使整个加沙的巴勒斯坦人,即西岸的96%的人,从以色列国内进行类似的换线,
179	No settlements in case that was the problem.	问题不在于解决。
180	Safe passage between the two territories.	两地间安全通行.
181	Most of the old city, Arab East Jerusalem for a capital and an international force replacing the IDF on the West Bank.	大部分老城,即阿拉伯东耶路撒冷,作为首都和一支国际部队,取代西岸的以色列国防军。
182	It was Israel that said yes, there was no excuse for the Palestinians not to take the deal.	以色列说是,巴勒斯坦人没有借口不接受这项交易。
183	None.	无。
184	But the Palestinians, led by Yasser Arafat, walked away, choosing instead to continue blowing us up through suicide bombings.	但是,在亚西尔·阿拉法特领导下的巴勒斯坦人却走开,选择继续用自杀炸弹袭击我们。
185	It is known that your character and who you are appears when you make choices.	众所周知,你的性格和你在做出选择时的出现。
186	That was a clear choice.	这是一个明确的选择。
187	Israel said yes, the Palestinians walked away.	以色列说是的,巴勒斯坦人走了。
188	Ultimately, this led, there was no excuse, sorry, to continue blowing us up through suicide bombings.	归根结底,这导致没有任何借口来继续用自杀炸弹炸毁我们。
189	It is those suicide bombings ultimately that led to the construction of the security barrier, checkpoints, roadblocks in the West Bank, which thankfully brought for a while an end to this reign of bloody terror later.	正是这些自杀性爆炸最终导致在西岸建造了安全屏障、检查站和路障,幸亏这些屏障、检查站和路障在一段时间后结束了这种血腥恐怖统治。
190	You would think that we would get the message.	你会认为我们会得到消息。
191	But no.	但是没有。
192	In 2008, it was Israel through Prime Minister Olmert who made yet another peace offer.	2008年,正是以色列通过奥尔默特总理再次提出和平提议。
193	A near total Israeli withdrawal from the West Bank with close to 100% land swaps.	以色列几乎全部撤出西岸,土地交换接近100%。
194	No settlements.	没有定居点。
195	Again, if that was a problem, they could have been negotiated away.	再说一遍,如果这是一个问题,它们本来是可以谈判掉的。
196	A link to the Gaza Strip, Arab East Jerusalem as capital of Palestine.	连接加沙地带,阿拉伯东耶路撒冷作为巴勒斯坦首都.
197	Israel would have given up sovereignty over all of the old city, including the single holiest site to the Jewish people, the Temple Mount, which would be overseen by an international trusteeship.	以色列本来会放弃对所有老城的主权,包括向犹太人民提供最神圣的单一地点——圣殿山,该山将受到国际托管的监督。
198	Again, there was no excuse for the Palestinians not to accept it.	同样,巴勒斯坦人也没有任何借口不接受它。
199	None.	无。
200	But under President Abbas, the Palestinians walked away from that too.	但在阿巴斯主席的领导下,巴勒斯坦人也摆脱了这种局面。
201	Israel even disengaged from Gaza in 2005, removing all settlements, allowing ourselves to believe that the later elected government of Hamas wanted to focus on improving their people's lives instead of destroying ours.	以色列甚至于2005年从加沙撤出,拆除了所有定居点,让我们相信,后来当选的哈马斯政府希望集中精力改善人民的生活,而不是摧毁我们的家园。
202	We were so desperate to believe this that we ignored all the red flags.	我们如此绝望地相信这一点,以至于我们无视所有的红旗.
203	Allowing numerous Gazans to enter Israel to work, study, and get specialized medical care.	允许许多加沙人进入以色列工作、学习和获得专门医疗服务。
204	But all this emphasis on economic development and work permits was part of a carefully built deception as Hamas leaders later boasted to lull Israelis into thinking that they really were going to live calmly next to us, minding their business.	但所有这些对经济发展和工作许可证的强调都是精心制造的欺骗的一部分,因为哈马斯领导人后来吹嘘说,要让以色列人相信,他们在我们身边确实会过着平静的生活,同时注意他们的事业。
205	Think of what a boast this is by the Palestinians.	想想巴勒斯坦人的夸夸其谈。
206	Ha ha.	呵呵. 师曰.
207	We led Israelis to believe that we're only minding our own business and taking care of our people.	我们引导以色列人相信,我们只是在关心自己的事业,照顾我们的人民.
208	But they were planning something very, very different.	但他们在计划一些非常非常不同的事情。
209	On October 7th, 2023, 3,000 trained and armed Palestinians invaded Israel from Gaza.	2023年10月7日,3000名训练有素和武装的巴勒斯坦人从加沙入侵以色列.
210	Talk about expansionists.	谈扩张主义者.
211	Much of the intelligence they relied on came from the very Palestinians we allowed into Israel on work and study and medical permits.	他们依赖的大部分情报来自我们允许进入以色列的巴勒斯坦人的工作、学习和医疗许可。
212	They massacred.	他们屠杀。
213	They pillaged.	他们掠夺。
214	They engaged in acts of gleeful, euphoric, sadistic brutality, which I still lack the heart or the stomach to describe.	他们从事了欢乐、喜悦、虐待性暴行,我仍然缺乏描述这些行为的心或胃。
215	They took 251 hostages, elderly men, women, mothers, fathers, children, babies.	他们劫持了251名人质,老年男子,妇女,母亲,父亲,儿童,婴儿.
216	And it was not just trained militants.	不仅仅是训练有素的激进分子。
217	Thousands of so-called ordinary, innocent, civilian Palestinians joined enthusiastically in the frenzy of manic violence, committing horrific acts of brutality.	数千名所谓的普通、无辜、平民的巴勒斯坦人热情地加入疯狂暴力的狂热之中,犯下可怕的暴行。
218	And when the IDF went into Gaza, as they had to, to ensure that the Palestinians could never again do this to us,	当以色列国防军不得不进入加沙,以确保巴勒斯坦人不再对我们这样做时,
219	they found a completely weaponized landscape, tunnels running under and opening into every house, mosque, hospital, school,	他们发现了一个完全武器化的景观, 隧道在下面运行并打开每一个房子, 清真寺,医院,学校,
220	a land filled with booby traps, making it impossible for us to fight without doing enormous later, doing enormous damage to Gaza.	一个充满了诱杀装置的土地,使我们无法不随后进行大规模战斗,对加沙造成巨大破坏。
221	Later, I promise.	以后,我保证。
222	And Hamas, who remained hidden in the tunnels and in civilian clothing, designed it this way.	而哈马斯却一直隐藏在隧道和便衣中,以此设计.
223	These are the people you need to take your issues to.	这是你需要的人把你的问题。
224	This is what we were facing.	这就是我们面对的。
225	So do not dare look at us and propose that Israel never truly wanted peace with Palestine.	因此,不要看我们,建议以色列从不真正希望与巴勒斯坦实现和平。
226	If anything, we wanted it too much.	如果有的话,我们想要的太多了。
227	We made offer after offer later.	我们后来答应了
228	We made offer after offer after offer of peace.	我们以和平为条件
229	We absorbed endless aggression.	我们吸收了无尽的侵略。
230	But we are not going to let ourselves be annihilated to convince you that we want peace.	但我们不会让自己被毁灭来说服你我们希望和平。
231	And we will certainly not accept peace on any terms.	我们当然不会接受任何条件的和平。
232	Some of you demand a one state solution and pretend that two peoples connected to the same land,	你们中有些人要求一个州的解决办法假装两个民族和同一个土地相连
233	but with distinct religions, values, cultures, languages and histories who have never lived in peace,	但有着不同的宗教、价值观、文化、语言和历史,从未和平生活过,
234	will magically exist in peace and harmony if only they live in one state.	将神奇地存在于和平与和谐中,如果他们生活在一个国家。
235	And frankly, far too often this call for a one state solution is not naive or delusional.	坦率地说,这个要求一个单一国家解决办法的呼吁往往不是天真或妄想。
236	I don't suspect you of that.	我不怀疑你会这样
237	But a carefully calculated attempt to rob Jews of the right to self-determination to be a free people in our own land.	但是,有人精心策划,企图剥夺犹太人的自决权,使他们成为我们自己土地上的自由人民。
238	In this we are no fools.	我们不是傻瓜
239	We have a millennia long history of being persecuted and subjugated by one people after another.	我们有着几千年的历史,被一个又一个民族迫害和征服.
240	And we are not about to give up our one and only state to go back to being at the mercy of others.	我们不会放弃我们唯一的国家回到别人的摆布之下
241	We do want peace.	我们确实希望和平。
242	And we are willing to go far to make it happen, but we will not give up our state for it.	我们愿意为它而努力,但我们不会为此放弃我们的国家。
243	So now it is your turn, Palestinians, to answer the question that somehow no university seems to debate.	因此,现在轮到你了,巴勒斯坦人,来回答一个问题,一个似乎没有大学辩论的问题。
244	When did you ever truly want peace with the one Jewish state?	你什么时候真正想要和一个犹太国家和平相处?

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