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0:00Ladies and gentlemen, Ben Shapiro.女士们先生们 本·夏皮罗
0:23Thank you so much.非常感谢
0:26It's obviously a massive honor to be here at Turning Point USA.来到美国之角显然是一个巨大的荣誉。
0:32It's even more of an honor to follow Erica Kirk, a heroic figure and a true American patriot.追随艾丽卡·柯克(英语:Erica Kirk),一个英雄人物和真正的美国爱国者,更是一种荣誉.
0:42I really believe that the best way to judge a goodness of a man我真的相信,最好的判断方法 一个男人的善良
0:45is to see the goodness of his wife and his children,欲见他的妻子和子孙的善报,
0:49and on that measure, Charlie was unsurpassed.并且根据这个标准,查理没有被推翻。
0:53Erica and her children are in all of our hearts.艾丽卡和她的孩子都在我们的心中
0:57And of course, this is an incredibly bittersweet moment.当然,这是一个令人难以置信的苦痛时刻。
1:00It's absolutely bitter because of the murder of our friend Charlie Kirk,因为我们的朋友Charlie Kirk被谋杀 实在是太痛苦了
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1Ladies and gentlemen, Ben Shapiro.女士们先生们 本·夏皮罗
2Thank you so much.非常感谢
3It's obviously a massive honor to be here at Turning Point USA.来到美国之角显然是一个巨大的荣誉。
4It's even more of an honor to follow Erica Kirk, a heroic figure and a true American patriot.追随艾丽卡·柯克(英语:Erica Kirk),一个英雄人物和真正的美国爱国者,更是一种荣誉.
5I really believe that the best way to judge a goodness of a man我真的相信,最好的判断方法 一个男人的善良
6is to see the goodness of his wife and his children,欲见他的妻子和子孙的善报,
7and on that measure, Charlie was unsurpassed.并且根据这个标准,查理没有被推翻。
8Erica and her children are in all of our hearts.艾丽卡和她的孩子都在我们的心中
9And of course, this is an incredibly bittersweet moment.当然,这是一个令人难以置信的苦痛时刻。
10It's absolutely bitter because of the murder of our friend Charlie Kirk,因为我们的朋友Charlie Kirk被谋杀 实在是太痛苦了
11an irreplaceable human being.一个不可替代的人。
12I knew Charlie from the time he was 18 years old,我从查理18岁起就认识他
13and I watched him build himself into one of the most powerful exponents of conservatism in America,我看着他成为美国最强大的保守主义者之一
14one of the most powerful coalition builders in American history.美国历史上最强大的联盟建设者之一.
15But it's also sweet to see the number of people who continue to remember Charlie each and every day但看到每天不断缅怀查理的人数也真好
16and to carry on his mission.继续他的使命
17Well, today I want to talk about the future of the country.今天我想谈谈国家的未来
18And the future of this country, this amazing country,而这个国家的未来, 这个惊人的国家,
19relies on the future of the conservative movement.依赖于保守运动的未来.
20It relies on what TPUSA defines as its core mission,它依赖于TPUSA定义的核心任务,
21freedom, free markets, and limited government.自由、自由市场和有限的政府。
22And most of all, most of all, the future of this country relies on truth.而最重要的是,最重要的是,这个国家的未来依赖于真理.
23This country relies on truth because victory, true, real, lasting victory,这个国家依赖于真理 因为胜利,真正的,真正的,持久的胜利,
24cannot be achieved without truth.没有真理,就不可能实现。
25Victory without truth is victory for a lie, and that is no victory at all.没有真理的胜利就是一场谎言的胜利,这根本不是胜利。
26And unity without truth is no unity.而没有真理的统一也不是统一.
27It is merely solidarity and falsehood.这仅仅是团结和谎言。
28You see, we live in a chaotic time,你看,我们生活在一个混乱的时代,
29in a time when lots of people are asking lots of legitimate questions about the conservative movement.在很多人问起许多关于保守运动的合法问题的时候。
30What ought we to think about the relationship between free markets and traditional virtue?自由市场与传统美德之间的关系,我们应该怎么思考呢?
31How should we craft a pragmatic foreign policy that spreads our interests and upholds our ideals?我们应如何制定能够传播我们的利益和维护我们理想的务实的外交政策?
32What governmental means are appropriate to achieve political ends?政府采取什么手段来实现政治目的?
33All of these questions aren't new, of course.当然,所有这些问题都不是新问题。
34They've been asked for as long as human beings have been talking about politics, thousands of years.他们被问到只要人类谈论政治,几千年.
35And over the course of this conference, you'll hear a lot of opinions on a lot of these questions.在这次会议期间,你会听到许多关于这些问题的意见.
36I have my own perspectives on them, of course.我当然有自己的看法
37You can hear them every single day on my show.你每天都能在我的节目中听到
38My fundamental values have been the same for 25 years.25年来,我的基本价值观是相同的。
39Peace through strength on foreign policy, traditional values on social policy,借助外交政策、社会政策传统价值观、
40free markets with regard to economics.经济自由市场。
41But today, I want to talk about something even more important.但是今天,我想谈谈更重要的事。
42How to discern those attempting to speak truth from frauds and grifters.如何从欺诈和欺诈中辨别那些试图说真话的人。
43Because something is new.因为有些东西是新的。
44An informational environment rife with both opportunity and chaos.信息环境充满机会和混乱。
45Opportunity, because the legacy media gatekeepers are no longer in charge of what we see and what we hear.机会,因为传统的媒体守门员不再负责我们所看到的和听到的.
46And chaos, because an anarchic informational environment和混乱,因为一个无政府的信息环境
47means we actually have to be smart in how we assess the information and arguments that we hear.意味着我们实际上必须聪明地评估我们听到的信息和论点。
48Why does that matter?这有什么关系?
49Well, because today the conservative movement is in serious danger.因为今天保守派运动很危险
50It is in danger, not just from a left that all too frequently excuses everything up to and including murder.它处于危险之中,而不只是从左侧,它经常为包括谋杀在内的所有事情开脱。
51The conservative movement is also in danger from charlatans who claim to speak in the name of principle,保守运动也有危险,来自那些自称以原则名义发言的骗子,
52but actually traffic in conspiracism and dishonesty.但实际上,贩卖 宽容和不诚实。
53Who offer nothing but bile and despair.他只提供血和绝望
54Who seek to undermine fundamental principles of conservatism by championing enervation and grievance.他们企图通过鼓吹诱奸和冤屈来破坏保守主义的基本原则。
55These people are frauds and they are grifters and they do not deserve your time.这些人是骗子 他们是骗子 他们不值得你花时间
56And they are something worse than that.他们比那更糟
57A danger to the only movement capable of stopping the left from wrecking the country wholesale.对唯一能阻止左派破坏国家批发的运动来说是个危险.
58So today, I want to discuss five obligations that people who speak to you on matters of importance have to you.因此,今天,我想讨论就重要事项与你交谈的人对你的五项义务。
59I want to speak to you about our duties.我想跟你谈谈我们的职责
60Our first duty is truth.我们的首要职责是真理。
61We owe you the truth.我们欠你一个真相。
62That means we should not mislead you.这意味着我们不应该误导你。
63It means we shouldn't hide the ball.这意味着我们不应该隐藏球。
64We shouldn't be deliberately obscure about what we're telling you.我们不应该被故意 模糊我们告诉你什么。
65We have an obligation to clarity and to honesty.我们有义务明确和诚实。
66This means that we actually have to be clear in the language that we use.这意味着我们实际上必须用我们使用的语言讲清楚.
67We should not traffic in generality.我们不应泛泛地进行交通。
68We should not say things like they shot Charlie without specifying whom we mean by they.我们不应该说他们杀了查理 却没说明我们指谁
69The person who allegedly shot Charlie Kirk and whom all the evidence points at, all of it, is a gay trans-loving furry.枪毙查理・柯克的人 所有证据都指向他 是个同性恋的反感者
70If we are going to target ideological movements, we should talk about the fact that the radical trans movement treats all those who oppose it as existential threats.如果我们要针对意识形态运动,我们应该谈谈这样一个事实:激进的跨运动将所有反对它的人视为生存威胁。
71Or if we're going to talk about the Democratic Party making room for the radical trans movement and echoing its inflammatory rhetoric, well, we should talk about that.或者说,如果我们要谈论民主党为激进的跨党运动腾出空间,并重复它的煽动性言论,那么,我们应该谈谈这一点.
72Those are specific problems and they require specific responses.这些是具体问题,需要具体对策。
73When people say they shot Charlie, however, they are instead trafficking in vagary.然而,当人们说他们枪杀了查理时,他们反而贩卖了流浪汉.
74That results in increased hatred without proposing any effective response.这导致仇恨增加,而没有提出任何有效的对策。
75They are fostering despair and rage, and that makes things worse.它们正在助长绝望和愤怒,使情况更加恶化。
76We must also be honest about what people say and do, regardless of what that means coalitionally.我们也必须诚实地对待人们的言行,无论这意味着什么。
77It is the job of politicians to build coalitions.建立联盟是政治家的工作。
78It's the job of those of us who try to shape public opinion to hold politicians to account and to hold them accountable to our values.我们中那些试图塑造舆论的人的工作,就是要追究政治家的责任,让他们对我们的价值观负责.
79We must not let fear of audience deter us from telling the truth.我们不能让观众的恐惧阻止我们说出真相。
80We must not let fear of other hosts deter us from telling the truth.我们决不能让其他东道主的恐惧阻止我们说出真相。
81So, for example, if Candace Owens decides to spend every day since the murder of Charlie Kirk,比如说,如果Candace Owens决定 每天花在查理・柯克被杀后
82casting aspersions at TPUSA and the people who work here, who worked with Charlie every single day, his best friends,在TPUSA和这里工作的人 每天都和查理合作 他最好的朋友
83to cast aspersions at Mikey McCoy and Andrew Colvin and Blake Neff and Tyler Boyer and, yes, at Erica Kirk,在麦克麦考伊和安德鲁・科尔文 布莱克・内夫和泰勒・博耶 以及,是的,埃丽卡・柯克,
84and to imply or outright claim complicity in a cover-up over Charlie's murder,并暗示或直截了当地声称 参与掩盖查理的谋杀案
85to spew absolutely baseless trash implicating everyone from French intelligence to Mossad to members of TPUSA in Charlie's murder把法国情报部门的人 都牵连到摩萨德 和TPUSA成员之间
86or a cover-up in that murder, then we, as people with a microphone, have a moral obligation to call that out by name.或掩盖谋杀, 然后,我们作为有麦克风的人, 有道德义务叫出这个名字。
87Erica Kirk and TPUSA never, never should have been put in the position to have to defend themselvesErica Kirk和TPUSA 永远也不应该被安排到必须自卫的位置
88against such specious and evil attacks, particularly in a time of mourning.特别在哀悼之时,
89And the people who refuse to condemn Candace's truly vicious attacks, and some of them are speaking here, are guilty of cowardice.而拒绝谴责坎迪斯真正恶毒的袭击事件的人,也有些人在这里讲话,都是胆怯的罪魁祸首.
90Yes, cowardice.是的,胆小鬼。
91The fact that they have said nothing while Candace has been vomiting all sorts of hideous他们一无所言 而坎迪斯一直在呕吐各种可怕的东西
92and conspiratorial nonsense into the public square for years is just as cowardly.和阴谋的胡言乱语 进入公共广场多年 同样懦弱。
93Second, because we owe you the truth, we owe you the duty to speak out of principle, not personal feeling.第二,由于我们欠你的是事实,我们欠你的是违背原则,而不是个人感情的言论义务.
94It should not matter whether we despise someone or whether we love someone.我们是否轻视某人或爱某人,都无关紧要。
95The question is what they say and what they do, and whether those things are morally decent or not.问题在于他们说什么和做什么,以及那些东西在道德上是否体面。
96On a political level, do they foster freedom, justice, and prosperity?在政治层面,它们是否促进自由、正义和繁荣?
97On a personal level, do they treat others as they would wish to be treated?就个人而言,他们是否把其他人当作他们希望得到的待遇?
98Personal feeling is not a substitute for moral judgment.个人的感觉不能代替道德判断。
99To take again the Candace Owen situation as an example, friendship with public figures who say or do evil things以坎迪斯·欧文为例, 与那些说或做坏事的公众人物结为友谊
100is not an excuse for silence on the matter.这不是在这个问题上保持沉默的借口。
101Politics is not the sisterhood of the traveling pants.政治不是旅行裤的姐妹关系
102Politics is about principle, and if you are willing to sacrifice basic truth and simple principle政治是原则的 如果你愿意牺牲基本真理和简单原则
103in favor of emotional solidarity, you have betrayed your fundamental duty to the American people.你背叛了自己对美国人民的基本义务
104First off, I should break the emerita here and just be a little bit clear.首先,我应该把埃默里塔弄断 并且要清楚一点
105The notion that people in our industry are close friends, like we all take holiday breaks with each other我们这个行业的人是亲密的朋友 就像我们彼此度假一样
106and go to each other's kids' graduations and stuff, is generally untrue.和去对方的孩子的毕业之类的, 一般来说是不真实的。
107Some people do that, most of us don't.有些人这样做,我们大多数人不这样做。
108We see each other at conferences and we talk on the phone and all the rest.我们在会议上见面,然后通过电话和所有其他方式交谈。
109We're business colleagues.我们是商业同事。
110But even if it were true that other public figures were our best friends, our very best friends,但即使其他公众人物是 我们最好的朋友,我们最好的朋友,
111that does not relieve us of our duty to speak out of principle and not to cover up evil or shy away这并不能免除我们出于原则而说话的责任,也不能掩盖邪恶或回避
112from addressing it out of friendship.而不是因为友谊而讨论它。
113So no, Tucker Carlson, it is not an excuse to go silent on Candace's targeting of TPUSA所以,塔克卡尔森,这不是一个借口 对坎迪斯的目标TPUSA保持沉默
114or to mirror her bullshit lines of questioning because you love Candace personally.或者模仿她的废话 问话 因为你喜欢坎迪斯个人。
115The same holds true of Megyn Kelly, a person I consider a friend,Megyn Kelly也是一样 我认为他是一个朋友
116characterizing Candace as a young mother and thus shying away from condemning her actions or filming about them.将Candace定性为年轻母亲,从而避而不谴责她的行为或拍摄他们.
117That is a non-starter.这是一种不启动。
118Megyn Markle is a young mother.迈金 马克尔是一个年轻的母亲。
119Ilhan Omar is a young mother.伊尔汉·奥马尔是一个年轻的母亲.
120That doesn't matter.没关系
121And when Megyn said this week, quote,当梅金说这个星期,引用
122my goal and my job here is to try to understand, yes, where Candace is coming from on this,我的目的和工作是试着理解 坎迪斯从哪里来的
123and says she sees no purpose in inserting herself, quote, into this on one side,并说她认为没有意义 插入自己,引用, 在一边,
124that is a moral and logical absurdity.这是道德和逻辑上的荒谬。
125There is only one moral side here, Erica Kirk's side.这里只有一个道德方面 艾丽卡・柯克的方面
126You know, the side of the widow with two children whose husband was shot live on camera in front of all of us.你知道,寡妇的一侧 有两个孩子, 丈夫被枪杀 在镜头上直播 在我们所有人面前。
127Friendship with the person accusing TPUSA of a cover-up of Charlie's murder is no excuse for cowardice.与指控TPUSA掩盖查理被谋杀的人的友谊不是胆怯的借口.
128Third and relatedly, we have a duty to take responsibility for what we say and do.第三,而且与此相关,我们有义务对我们所说的话和行为承担责任。
129If we hire awful people, we're responsible for that.如果我们雇用可怕的人, 我们的责任。
130I have some experience there, as you might suspect.我有一些经验,你可能怀疑。
131That means that if we offer a guest for your viewing,也就是说如果我们为您提供一位客人
132we owe it to you to ask the kinds of questions that actually get at the truth.我们有责任向你提出 真正了解真相的问题
133If we agree with the guest, that's fine, but we should own it.如果我们同意客人的意见,那很好, 但我们应该拥有它。
134So, for example, if you host a Hitler apologist, Nazi-loving, anti-American piece of refuse like Nick Fuentes,所以,比如说,如果你招待一个希特勒的代言人, 爱纳粹的,反美国的垃圾像尼克·富恩特斯,
135you know the Nick Fuentes who said that the vice president of the United States is a, quote,你知道尼克·富恩特斯说过 美国副总统是个...
136The person who said that Charlie Kirk was a, quote,那个说查理·柯克是个...
137The person who said, and pardon my language here, it's his quote,那个人说, 原谅我的话, 这是他的引用,
138that he, quote,他说:
139If you have that person on your show and you proceed to glaze him, you ought to own it.如果你的节目里有那个人 并且你开始嘲笑他 你应该拥有他
140There is a reason that Charlie Kirk despised Nick Fuentes,查理·柯克鄙视尼克·富恩特斯是有原因的
141and indeed even chided Dinesh D'Souza for debating him.甚至连Dinesh D'Souza 也因他的辩论而痛斥他。
142He knew that Nick Fuentes is an evil troll, and that building him up is an act of moral imbecility.他知道尼克·富恩特斯是一个邪恶的巨魔,而建立他是一种道德上无能的行为.
143And that is precisely what Tucker Carlson did.而这正是塔克卡尔森所做的。
144He built Nick Fuentes up.他造了尼克・富恩特斯
145And he ought to take responsibility for that,他应该对此负责,
146just as he ought to take responsibility for glazing pornographer and alleged sex trafficker Andrew Tate,正如他应该承担 粉刷色情 和被指控的性交易者安德鲁・塔特,
147or for mainstreaming fake historian and pseudo-Nazi apologist Darrell Cooper或将假历史学家和伪纳粹辩护人Darrell Cooper纳入主流
148as America's best and most honest popular historian.作为美国最优秀和最诚实的流行历史学家.
149Hosts are, indeed, responsible for the guests they choose and the questions they ask those guests.主办方确实要负责自己选择的宾客和向这些宾客提出的问题。
150Fourth, because we have a duty to truth,第四,因为我们有责任了解真相,
151we also have a duty to provide you with evidence of the claims that we make.我们还有义务向你们提供我们提出的指控的证据。
152Emotive accusations, conspiracy theories, and just-gassing questions情感指控 阴谋论 和正气的问题
153that's lazy and stupid and misleading.懒惰、愚蠢、误导
154None of them are a substitute for truth.没有一个可以代替真理。
155None of them are a substitute for evidence.没有一个可以代替证据。
156So, when Candace Owen says, I don't know-know, but I know,所以,当Candace Owen说, 我不知道,但我知道,
157that is retarded, and we are all more retarded for having heard it.这是弱智,我们更弱智 因为听到它。
158When Steve Bannon, for example, accuses his foreign policy opponents of loyalty to a foreign country,例如,当史蒂夫·班农指责他的外交政策对手效忠外国时,
159he's not actually making an argument based in evidence.他其实不是在提出证据上的论点
160He's simply maligning people that he disagrees with,他只是在诋毁他不同意的人
161which is indeed par for the course from a man who was once a PR flack for Jeffrey Epstein.这对一个曾经是杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的公关员的人来说是相当的。
162Check the record.检查记录。
163Our duty to provide you evidence means we actually have to do much more than just ask questions.我们有义务提供证据 意味着我们要做的不仅仅是提问
164Just asking questions is something my five-year-old does,问问题是我的五岁小孩做的事
165and it's really cute when it comes from my five-year-old.我五岁的孩子送来的时候真可爱
166But when grown men and women spend their days just asking questions但是,当成年的男女花 他们的日子只是提问
167without, you know, seeking answers, they are lying to you.没有,你知道,寻找答案, 他们骗你。
168In fact, they're doing something even worse.事实上,他们做的更糟糕
169They are seeding distrust in the world around you, and they are enervating you in the process.他们正在你周围的世界中滋生不信任,他们正在这个过程中激励你.
170So, for example, if many speakers, including Tucker Carlson and others,例如,如果很多发言者,包括塔克·卡尔森等人,
171get on stage here at TPUSA and claim, without proper evidence,在TPUSA上台 并声称, 没有适当的证据,
172that Jeffrey Epstein was running a Mossad rape ring being covered up by the Trump administration,Jeffrey Epstein在经营摩萨德强奸案 被特朗普政府掩盖
173they are not actually uncovering a conspiracy or effectuating a solution.他们实际上并没有揭露阴谋或促成解决办法。
174They are claiming a special providence to information they won't let you see,他们声称一个特殊的信息 他们不会让你看到,
175which builds their power and leaves you with none.用来建立他们的能力,而使你无所依附。
176They are also implicating in their speculation actual human beings,他们还在猜测真实的人
177good human beings like Cash Patel and Dan Bongino and Pam Bondi,像卡什·帕特尔、丹·邦吉诺和潘·邦迪这样的好人
178and yes, the President of the United States,是的,美国总统,
179even if they're too cowardly to say President Trump's name.即使他们太懦弱 不敢说川普总统的名字
180And that means you won't trust those good people in the future.这意味着你不会相信那些好人
181You haven't gotten smarter.你还没变聪明
182You've just been manipulated.你刚刚被操纵。
183When forced to demonstrate their evidence, these same people will often refuse to provide it.当被迫出示证据时,这些人往往拒绝提供证据。
184They'll claim ignorance.他们会宣称无知
185They'll pretend they're outside the system.他们会假装他们在系统外
186And they don't have access to actual information.而且他们也无法获得实际的信息.
187You know, they're just asking questions.他们只是在问问题
188But many of these same people have direct pipelines to informational sources.但其中许多人都有直接通往信息来源的管道。
189So, for example, if Tucker wants answers to his questions about, say, Jeffrey Epstein,所以,举例来说,如果塔克想要回答 他的问题,比如,杰弗里・爱泼斯坦,
190he could call the Vice President of the United States.他可以打电话给美国副总统。
191He's quite close with him.他和他很亲近
192But he won't, because that might undermine the empty speculation.但他不会,因为这可能会破坏空洞的猜测。
193None of this means there aren't actual real conspiracies in the world.这并不意味着世界上没有真正的阴谋。
194Of course there are.当然有
195But actual conspiracies require actual evidence.但实际的阴谋需要实际的证据.
196Yes, there was a Russiagate conspiracy,是的,有一个俄罗斯门阴谋,
197and we know the names of the people involved and what they did.我们知道涉案人员的姓名 以及他们做了什么
198We know Hillary Clinton and Fusion GPS and James Comey and Loretta Lynch and Adam Schiff.我们认识希拉里·克林顿和Fusion GPS 还有詹姆斯·科米 洛雷塔·林奇和亚当·希夫
199We know all of those people.我们认识所有这些人。
200Yes, there was a COVID-19 conspiracy.是的,有一个COVID-19阴谋。
201We know that Anthony Fauci worked to shut down alternative solutions我们知道Anthony Fauci努力关闭替代解决方案
202来自Jay Bhattacharya这样的人
203But when people posit a conspiracy and then provide you no evidence,但当人们提出阴谋,然后不提供证据的时候,
204they are doing you a fundamental disservice.他们为你们而作恶,
205And they are making you stupider in the process.他们让你在这个过程中更蠢。
206Finally, because it is our job to make the lives of our audience better,最后,因为改善观众的生活是我们的工作
207that's really our job, is to give you more information to make your lives better.这是我们的工作, 就是给你更多的信息 让你的生活更好。
208We have a duty to propose solutions.我们有义务提出解决办法。
209That's why we have to talk about our problems in order to find the solutions.因此,我们必须讨论我们的问题,以便找到解决办法。
210That's what politics was supposed to be about, after all,毕竟,政治就该如此
211finding solutions to our common problems.找到解决我们共同问题的办法。
212If we speak endlessly about the problems we face,如果我们无休止地谈论我们面临的问题,
213without ever positing a solution other than wrecking the system除了破坏系统之外 从未提出过其他解决方案
214or centralizing power in a cult-like figure, we are not finding solutions.或把权力集中到类似邪教的人物身上, 我们没有找到解决办法。
215We are merely making problems worse.我们只是把问题弄得更糟。
216Just asking questions, positing vague conspiracies,只是问问题 假设阴谋
217raving like Alex Jones about the secret confederacies that control your life,就像亚历克斯·琼斯一样 关于控制你生活的秘密秘密
218none of it makes your life better.这一切都没有让你的生活更好。
219None of it.没有
220In fact, it makes your life markedly worse.事实上,它让你的生活明显恶化。
221That's because if you truly come to believe that nothing in your life is in your control,那是因为如果你真的相信 你生活中没有任何东西在你控制下
222you can't even take control of your own life.你甚至无法控制自己的生活。
223You despair of your ability to change your own circumstances,你对改变自己情况的能力绝望
224and then you fail.然后你就失败了
225And you must not fail.你不能失败
226Because here is the most fundamental truth of all in the United States,因为这里是美国最基本的事实
227for all of its problems, many of which, a huge number of which,对于它的所有问题, 其中许多, 大量的,
228are real and serious.是真实和严肃的。
229The United States is still the greatest country in the history of planet Earth.美国仍然是地球历史上最伟大的国家.
230We have the greatest constitution ever devised by man.我们有有史以来最伟大的宪法 由人类设计。
231We have the greatest founding philosophy ever put to paper in the Declaration of Independence.我们拥有《独立宣言》中最伟大的创始哲学。
232In this country, you can make of yourself what you will,在这个国家,你可以自己做你想做的事,
233and if there are true obstacles standing in your way,如果有真正的障碍 站在你的路上,
234we can all work together to remove them.我们可以一起努力去除它们。
235That, by the way, is the essence of conservatism,顺便说一句,这是保守主义的本质,
236that we live in a world created by God with a logic and a rationale,我们生活在一个由上帝创造的世界里,有理有据,
237that we as human beings were created in God's image,我们人类是依上帝的形象而创造的,
238as it says in the book of Genesis, with creative capacity and the power to choose,正如创世纪书中所说的 拥有创造力和选择能力
239and that in a free country of limited government and defined powers,在一个政府有限、权力明确的自由国家,
240with property rights and equality under law,享有财产权和法律上的平等,
241our destiny is in our hands,我们的命运掌握在我们手中,
242and that we all have a duty to make the most of that historic opportunity.我们都有义务充分利用这一历史性机会。
243Anyone, anyone who tries to convince you otherwise is lying to you,任何人,任何人 谁试图说服你 否则是在骗你,
244and they are making your life worse in the process.他们让你的生活更加糟糕
245Now, that lie may feel good in the moment.现在,这个谎言可能 感觉很好的时刻。
246It may excuse us from taking the corrective action we can take on a personal level to fix our lives.它可能使我们不采取我们个人可以采取的纠正行动来改变我们的生活。
247It might give us someone else to blame for our own failures,它可能会给我们其他人 责备我们自己的失败,
248but in the end, the lie kills.但最终谎言会致命
249Not just your future, but the country that we've been given.不只是你的未来,还有我们得到的国家
250So, for those of us who talk for a living, that's our job,所以,对于我们中那些以工作为生的人, 这就是我们的工作,
251to discuss America's problems with truth and with evidence,讨论美国的真相和证据问题,
252to provide possible solutions,提供可能的解决办法,
253and to encourage Americans to succeed and make great decisions.并且鼓励美国人成功并做出伟大的决定.
254We who speak to people on a regular basis,我必定要对众人说话,
255who have a microphone and an audience, we have duties to you.谁有麦克风和观众, 我们的责任给你。
256The duty to speak the truth.诵真言之义.
257The duty to speak from principle, not personal feeling.从原则上说话的义务,而不是个人的感觉.
258The duty to take responsibility for our own actions.对我们自己的行动承担责任的责任。
259The duty to provide you with evidence to do more than conspiracize or just ask questions.有义务提供证据 做更多的事情 比阴谋或只是问问题。
260And the duty to posit real solutions.并有责任提出真正的解决方案。
261And if we fail in those duties, you shouldn't listen to us.如果我们不履行这些职责 你不应该听我们的
262But you have duties too.但你也有职责
263Far more important duties.更重要的任务
264Duties to God and to yourself and to your families.对上帝 对你和你家人的责任
265The duty to do the best for yourself and your family and your country with the abilities that God gave you.以上帝赐予你的能力,为你自己、你的家人以及你的国家做最好的事情。
266The duty to be grateful for this extraordinary country.感谢这个非凡国家的责任.
267The duty to celebrate what we've all been given and to fight to preserve it.庆祝我们得到的东西的责任 以及保护它的责任
268All of that, every bit of that begins with truth.所有这一切,每一点都从真理开始。
269We owe you that quest for truth.我们欠你这样的追求真理。
270You owe yourselves that quest for truth.你们应该去追求真理
271And true victory only, only comes through truth.只有真正的胜利, 才能通过真理。
272Thanks so much, happy to take a couple of questions.非常感谢,很高兴接受几个问题。
273Hi, my name is Jenna.嗨,我的名字是简娜。
274I'm one of the co-presidents of the Turning Point chapter at JMU.我是JMU"转折点"章节的共同主席之一.
275I have a question.我有个问题
276How do you balance telling the truth with delivery and speaking to people who disagree with you?你如何平衡 说真话与交付 和说话的人 谁不同意你?
277So I think obviously the truth comes first.所以,我认为显然真相是第一。
278We ought to be polite.我们应该礼貌点
279But the truth comes first.但真言为先.
280And if you can tell the truth in a polite way, that's the best way to do it.如果你能以礼貌的方式说出真相,那是最好的办法.
281But sometimes people perceive truth as impolite.但有时人们会认为真理是不礼貌的.
282That's just the way of the world.世间之道而已.
283You know, I rather famously have said that facts don't care about your feelings.你知道,我相当有名的说 事实并不关心你的感受。
284And that happens to be true.这恰好是真的
285You know, when you engage in a conversation, I've said this to a lot of people,你知道,当你参与一个谈话, 我已经对很多人说,
286when you engage in a conversation, it's very important to sort of determine the end of the conversation.当你进行谈话时,确定谈话的结束非常重要。
287If it's going to be impossible to tell somebody the truth in a productive way,如果无法以富有成效的方式告诉别人真相
288you probably shouldn't engage in that kind of conversation.你可能不应该参与这种对话。
289And you should make that judgment ahead of time.你应该提前做出判断
290But truth always has to take precedence over politeness if the two come into conflict,但事实总是要高于礼貌 如果两者发生冲突,
291particularly if you're talking publicly, as we all do for a living.特别是如果你是公开说话, 像我们都做为生活。
292I'm not talking about you're talking to your kid and they bring you a macaroni painting,我不是说你在跟你的孩子说话 他们给你带来了一幅通心粉画
293and they're like, is it good or not?他们喜欢,是好还是不好?
294You're like, no, this is terrible.你就像,不,这是可怕的。
295And you stuff it in the trash.你把它塞进垃圾桶里
296It is terrible.这是可怕的。
297But, you know, say that it's good.但是,你知道,说这是很好的。
298And then later you kind of put that, I understand.后来你又说,我明白了
299But when we're talking about politics and policy, obviously the truth has to come first,但当我们谈论政治和政策时,显然必须首先了解真相。
300because if we can't agree on fundamental facts, there's no possibility for solutions.因为如果我们不能就基本事实达成一致,就不可能有解决办法.
301Thank you for being here, Ben.谢谢你能来 本
302You cited during your speech truth as the most important tenet of American conservatism.你在演讲中引用真理为美国保守主义最重要的原则.
303Why, therefore, did you call irrelevant the Israeli attack in 1967 on the USS Liberty1967年以色列攻击美国自由号
304with left dozens of American servicemen dead and hundreds wounded?留下数十名美国军人死伤?
305So what I actually said is that if we're looking at modern Israeli-American relations,所以,我实际上说的是,如果我们看 现代的以美关系,
306looking at an attack that happened mistakenly by multiple Navy reports,看着被多份海军报告错误发生的袭击,
307multiple Israeli reports, and all available evidence,以色列的多份报告和所有现有证据,
308and using that attack in order to undermine today's relations between Israel and America,利用这次袭击破坏今天以色列和美国之间的关系,
309that's irrelevant, as irrelevant as it would be to cite a piece of evidence from World War II和引用二战证据无关
310or from 1776 to define America's relations with, for example, Great Britain or Germany today.或者从1776年开始定义美国与例如今天的大不列颠或德国的关系.
311That does not mean that the attack wasn't horrible for the Americans involved,这并不意味着这次袭击 对涉及的美国人来说并不可怕
312that it wasn't bloody and terrible.这并不是血腥和可怕的。
313The Israeli government paid reparations to the people who were killed.以色列政府向遇害者支付了赔偿.
314If you look at the actual military record of what happened on the USS Liberty,如果你看看美国自由号的实际军事记录
315it was clearly a mistaken and tragic attack.这显然是一次错误和悲惨的攻击。
316The people who frequently cite the USS Liberty, however,但经常引用美国自由号的人,
317are not talking about the specifics of the USS Liberty.不谈美国自由号的具体情况
318I suspect that the vast majority of people who bring this up are doing so in order to suggest我怀疑绝大多数人 提出这一点是为了建议
319that Israel deliberately attacked an American ship以色列故意攻击一艘美国船只
320because Israel deliberately wants to harm America, is connected generally with a larger point.因为以色列有意伤害美国, 通常与更大的点有关。
321I wonder if that's your point.我想知道这是否是你的重点。
322If the truth matters, then the Israeli government must be held accountable for that attack.如果真相重要,那么以色列政府必须对这次袭击负责。
323The American flag was flying on that ship.美国国旗就在那艘船上
324You do not mistake an American ship for a foreign one when our flag is flying.在我们的旗帜飘扬的时候,你不会误以为美国船只是外国船只。
325So, we can spend the rest of the time talking about the specifics of the USS Liberty attack,因此,我们可以花剩下的时间 谈论美国自由号攻击的具体细节,
326or you can actually go look at the naval investigations that were done,或者你可以去看看海军的调查
327multiple naval investigations that were done.进行了多次海军调查。
328The reality is that people were flying Mirage planes for the Israeli military at the time.现实是当时人们为以色列军队飞行幻影飞机。
329The USS Liberty was sailing in an area where it had essentially gone off-grid.美国自由号正在一个基本上离网的地区航行。
330The Israeli military mistook it for an Egyptian ship.以色列军方误认为是一艘埃及船.
331They thought it was shelling al-Arish, which happened not to be true.他们认为是炮击al-Arish,但事实并非如此。
332In the initial attack, the American flag was knocked down,在最初的攻击中,美国国旗被击落,
333and then the attack went on for about 90 minutes.然后袭击持续了大约90分钟。
334And then as soon, you can hear this, by the way, on the tapes of the Israeli pilots talking to each other,顺便说一句 在以色列飞行员相互交谈的录像带上
335as soon as they realize that it's an American ship, they call off the attack,一旦他们意识到那是一艘美国船 他们就停止攻击
336they speed a ship to try and help the USS Liberty.他们加速飞船 试图帮助美国自由号
337There have been multiple unfortunate friendly-fire incidents between allied forces,盟军之间发生了多次不幸的交火事件,
338including, for example, in the Gulf War,例如,在海湾战争中,
339where U.S. forces were responsible for killing about nine British troops during the Gulf War.在海湾战争中,美军对约9名英军的阵亡负有责任.
340It's an unfortunate reality of war.这是一个不幸的战争现实.
341But you're not answering my question, which is, what is your broader agenda in asking the question?但你没有回答我的问题, 那就是,你问这个问题的更广泛的议程是什么?
342Because I suspect that your question is not limited to your specific ire over an incident that happened in 1967.因为我怀疑你的问题不仅限于你对1967年发生的一个事件 的愤怒。
343I think we should question any foreign country's relationship with our government.我认为我们应该质疑任何外国与我国政府的关系.
344That's totally fine, but I'm just wondering why you—这很好,但我想知道你为什么...
345Especially when it does not serve American interests.特别是当它不符合美国的利益时。
346Again, I'm perfectly fine with questioning any country's relationship with the United States.再次,我完全可以质疑任何国家与美国的关系.
347But, again, I'm wondering what your motivation is in bringing up a six-decade-old attack,但是,我再次想知道 你的动机是什么 提出一个六十年来的攻击,
348as though it is the number one issue in assessing the relationship between Israel and the United States today.似乎这是今天评估以色列和美国之间关系的头号问题。
349Well, many problems persist to this day,很多问题一直存在到今天
350but it's interesting that you say six-decade-old incident when there are many people in this audience但有趣的是,你说的六十年来的事件, 当有很多人在这个观众中。
351who are alive for that attack, as if this is something that's irrelevant.活生生地为这次攻击, 仿佛这是无关紧要的东西。
352Well, no, it's just not particularly relevant to assessing the relationship between the United States and Israel today嗯,不,这只是不 特别相关的评估 美国和以色列之间的关系今天
353in the same way that in 1967 there are a wide variety of countries with which the United States had different relations.1967年,美国同许多国家有着不同的关系。
354Okay, it's clear you're not going to actually answer the question, so I'm happy to move to this one.好吧,很明显你不会真正回答这个问题 所以我很高兴搬到这个。
355Unfortunately, this will be the last question.不幸的是,这将是最后一个问题。
356Hi, my name is Natasha, and I'm a TPUSA chapter member at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles.嗨,我的名字是娜塔莎, 我是TPUSA分会成员 在洛杉矶的Loyola Marymount大学。
357So my question is, just with the divide in the conservative movement right now,所以,我的问题是, 正当保守运动的鸿沟 现在,
358what is your suggestion as to how young people can kind of come together and bridge that divide and just, you know, bring unity right now?你的建议是什么 年轻人如何可以走到一起 弥合分歧 并实现团结?
359So, again, I think that unity has to be reliant on first principles.因此,我再次认为,团结必须依赖第一原则。
360No one would ask conservatives to unite with radical trans activists because that would be silly.没有人会要求保守派与激进的跨党派活动分子联合起来,因为那将是愚蠢的。
361And so we first have to decide what are the principles that we hold in common所以我们首先要决定 我们所持的原则是什么
362and then actually determine who are our allies in that particular fight.然后确定谁是我们的盟友 在这场战斗中。
363Now, again, the coalition may shift depending on the issue.现在,联盟又可能因问题而转移。
364That's kind of a normal thing in politics.这在政治上是很正常的
365Sometimes you're going to have different allies than you have with regard to other issues.有时候你会有不同的盟友 比你在其他问题上。
366But when it comes to how young people ought to decide what they believe,但是,当关于 年轻人应该如何决定 他们相信什么,
367that's the thing I most care about because if I'm talking about the long-term friends of America,这是我最关心的 因为如果我说的是美国的长期朋友
368not merely the coalitions of the moment, which break and reform and reform and break constantly, right?不仅仅是现在的联盟, 它打破和改革,改革 和不断打破,对不对?
369George W. Bush's coalition was obviously not Donald Trump's coalition,乔治·W·布什的联盟显然不是唐纳德·特朗普的联盟,
370and Donald Trump's coalition is not going to be JD Vance's coalition,唐纳德·特朗普的联盟不会是万斯的联盟
371meaning every politician has their own coalition.意味着每个政治家都有自己的联盟.
372That's the nature of electoral politics.这就是选举政治的性质.
373What I'm more concerned about is the trajectory of how people think and what people think.我更关心的是人们如何思考和思考的轨迹.
374And so before determining how to unify with others, you should first decide whether the things that are important to you,所以,在决定如何与他人统一之前,你应该先决定那些对你很重要的事情,
375what are your fundamental values, and then you should find people who agree with those fundamental values你的基本价值是什么,然后你应该找到 同意这些基本价值的人
376because the problem is if you don't, then when push comes to shove, things come apart pretty quickly.因为问题是,如果你不这样做, 然后当推来推去, 事情会很快地分崩离析。
377Let's take one more.再来一次
378Hi, Ben.嗨,宾。
379Big fan of yours and stuff, and I'm currently a college sophomore,你的大粉丝之类的, 而我目前是一个大学大二,
380and my university just started a chapter and it got approved.我的大学刚刚开了一章 得到了批准
381So just for your advice, how can we spread conservatism on campus and any hate or anything like that?所以,仅仅为了你的建议,我们如何在校园里传播保守主义和任何仇恨之类的东西?
382Just combat that, and what would your be words of encouragement?对抗它,你会说什么鼓励?
383I mean, my words of encouragement are, look at Charlie Kirk, right?我的意思是,我的话鼓励是, 看看查理・柯克,对不对?
384That's the word of encouragement.这是鼓励的话。
385Charlie was your age when he started doing this.查理开始这么做时你这个年纪
386Again, I referenced earlier that I met Charlie when he was 18 years old.我先前再次提到,我遇见查理时他才18岁。
387It was actually at David Horowitz Freedom Center Conference, and Charlie was going around trying to meet donors.这其实是在大卫·霍罗威茨自由中心会议上,查理四处试图与捐赠者见面.
388And I saw this really nerdy, tall, gangly kid walking around trying to meet people,我看见一个非常书呆子, 高大,帮派的小孩走来走去 试图遇见人,
389and I started introducing Charlie to a few of his sort of original donors.我开始向查理介绍 他的一些原始捐赠者。
390And by the way, in the first conversation with Charlie, I've said this before, but it's true.顺便说一下,在和查理的第一次谈话中,我以前说过,但这是真的.
391Charlie walked away and I turned to my friend Jeremy Boring.查理走了,我转向我的朋友杰里米·波林。
392I said, that dude's going to be the head of the RNC one day because Charlie was just that much of a go-getter,我说,那个家伙有一天会 成为RNC的负责人 因为查理只是 太多的走资派,
393and it turns out that he was a lot bigger than that.结果发现他比这大很多
394I think that everyone has the potential to do that.我认为每个人都有这样做的潜力。
395Not everybody has the same exact skill set, and you have to find the skill set that best suits you.不是每个人都有同样的技能, 你必须找到最适合你的技能。
396Maybe you're great at debate.也许你很擅长辩论
397Charlie was great at debate.查理在辩论上表现很好
398Actually, what's fascinating about Charlie is that Charlie made himself great at debate.事实上,查理的魅力在于 查理在辩论上表现得很棒
399I knew Charlie when he wasn't great at debate, and then I knew Charlie when he was great at debate.我认识查理 当他不擅长辩论, 然后我认识查理 当他很擅长辩论。
400He actually cultivated a skill set, and it was really impressive and cool to watch him do that.他实际上培养了一套技能, 看着他这样做真的很令人印象深刻,很酷。
401That's something you can do too.你也可以这么做
402So again, if Charlie can do that, a raw kid out of high school, no college degree,再说一次,如果查理能做到这一点, 一个生孩子出高中, 没有大学学位,
403and build the most powerful conservative organization in America, then you can do it too,建立美国最强大的保守组织, 然后你也可以做到这一点,
404because that's what America's all about.因为这就是美国的目的
405You're an American, go do it.你是美国人,去干吧
406Thank you so much.非常感谢
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