实战练英文 | Charlie Kirk反堕胎，那反对死刑吗
字幕摘录
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| 0:00 | First of all, I just want to say, man, I'm excited to see you. | 首先,我只想说,我很高兴见到你。 |
| 0:03 | I watch your videos all the time. | 我经常看你的视频。 |
| 0:04 | I disagree heavily. | 我不同意这种看法。 |
| 0:06 | And I originally wanted to come up here and maybe troll, | 我本来想来这里 也许还有巨怪 |
| 0:08 | but I actually have a genuine question for you. | 但我真的有个问题要问你 |
| 0:10 | And my question to that is, why is it | 我的问题是,为什么 |
| 0:13 | that you are in strong support of religious values being | 坚定支持宗教价值观 |
| 0:16 | instilled as American values and protected by the Constitution | 被灌输为美国价值观并受到宪法保护 |
| 0:19 | when our founding fathers kind of tried | 当我们的始祖们尝试 |
| 0:21 | to stray away from a installment of a specific religion | 远离特定宗教的分期 |
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| 1 | First of all, I just want to say, man, I'm excited to see you. | 首先,我只想说,我很高兴见到你。 |
| 2 | I watch your videos all the time. | 我经常看你的视频。 |
| 3 | I disagree heavily. | 我不同意这种看法。 |
| 4 | And I originally wanted to come up here and maybe troll, | 我本来想来这里 也许还有巨怪 |
| 5 | but I actually have a genuine question for you. | 但我真的有个问题要问你 |
| 6 | And my question to that is, why is it | 我的问题是,为什么 |
| 7 | that you are in strong support of religious values being | 坚定支持宗教价值观 |
| 8 | instilled as American values and protected by the Constitution | 被灌输为美国价值观并受到宪法保护 |
| 9 | when our founding fathers kind of tried | 当我们的始祖们尝试 |
| 10 | to stray away from a installment of a specific religion | 远离特定宗教的分期 |
| 11 | on the entire country? | 整个国家? |
| 12 | Well, I would reject the premise, | 好吧,我会拒绝前提, |
| 13 | but let's just kind of ask you, by what standard | 但是,让我们只是有点问你, 按照什么标准 |
| 14 | do you think we should live by? | 你觉得我们应该住在一起吗? |
| 15 | Standard in the country? | 国家的标准? |
| 16 | Just as humanity, what should we say is good or evil, | 正如人类一样,我们应该说善恶, |
| 17 | and where should we get that from? | 我们从哪里得到这些? |
| 18 | I think that we should have a set amount of values | 我认为我们应该有一套价值 |
| 19 | that come from what we as a society kind of create, | 来自于我们这个社会创造的, |
| 20 | and that can be contributed by a mix of different religions | 以及不同宗教的混合可以作出的贡献 |
| 21 | and perspectives and opinions, which | 目 录(续) |
| 22 | is why I disagree with the installment | 这就是为什么我不同意分期付款 |
| 23 | of a specific religion on the entire country. | 整个国家的宗教 |
| 24 | So let's just, I'll tell you what I believe. | 所以,让我们只是, 我告诉你,我相信什么。 |
| 25 | I believe specifically the Ten Commandments | 我特别相信十诫 |
| 26 | is a great place to start. | 是一个伟大的起点。 |
| 27 | What would you say are rules for life, | 你会说什么是生活规则, |
| 28 | and where do we get them from, and why should we believe them? | 我们从哪里得到他们,我们为什么要相信他们? |
| 29 | You're asking me? | 你问我? |
| 30 | Yeah, I mean, so again, like I said, | 是啊,我的意思是,所以再次,就像我说的, |
| 31 | I think that a lot of things we can point to the Bible, | 我认为很多事情 我们可以指向圣经, |
| 32 | we can point to the Ten Commandments, | 我们可以指出十诫, |
| 33 | we can point to a lot of these teachings, | 我们可以指出很多这些教义, |
| 34 | and we can say, OK, here's a good set of values | 我们可以说,好吧,这是一套很好的价值观 |
| 35 | that we have that are outlined in the Ten Commandments | 十诫中概述的我们 |
| 36 | in the Bible and stuff like that. | 在圣经和类似的东西。 |
| 37 | But we can also, what that raises the issues of | 但是,我们也可以,这引起的问题是: |
| 38 | is what that does for the rest of the country. | 这对全国其他国家都有好处。 |
| 39 | Because if you flip that logic and you applied it to, | 因为如果你推翻了逻辑 应用到, |
| 40 | let's say, values of Islam, values of Hinduism, | 比如说伊斯兰教的价值观 印度教的价值观 |
| 41 | we weren't founded on those values, though. | 但我们不是建立在这些价值观之上的。 |
| 42 | Correct, we were not founded on those values, | 没错,我们不是建立在这些价值观之上的, |
| 43 | but also I think that just because we were founded | 但我也认为,只是因为我们成立 |
| 44 | on beneficial values of a specific religion | 特定宗教的有益价值 |
| 45 | does not mean that we as a country should look to | 这并不意味着我们国家应该期待 |
| 46 | solidify the entire country in religion. | 在宗教方面巩固全国。 |
| 47 | And what we're seeing a lot in government | 以及我们在政府里看到的很多 |
| 48 | is more religious involvement. | 更多的宗教参与。 |
| 49 | We're seeing a lot of money. | 我们看到了很多钱。 |
| 50 | Which we should, we should have | 我们应该,我们应该 |
| 51 | a ton more religious involvement. | 更多宗教参与。 |
| 52 | The reason primarily being is if America goes secular, | 主要原因是如果美国世俗化了 |
| 53 | it will lose its mind. | 它会失去理智。 |
| 54 | Would you agree, then? | 你同意吗? |
| 55 | And we're seeing that. | 我们看到了这一点。 |
| 56 | Would you agree with if the president elected was Muslim | 如果当选总统是穆斯林,你同意吗? |
| 57 | or had a different religion than you, | 或有与你不同的宗教, |
| 58 | would you also? | 你也会吗? |
| 59 | Well, let's take Vivek. | 好吧,让我们采取Vivek。 |
| 60 | I mean, Vivek has a worldview that I share. | 我的意思是,Vivek有一个世界观 我分享。 |
| 61 | Vivek is a Hindu. | 维韦克是印度教徒. |
| 62 | And so, but how would you feel with those values | 所以,但你会有什么感觉 与这些价值 |
| 63 | as a whole being? | 整个人? |
| 64 | I mean, Vivek is a Hindu. | 我的意思是,Vivek是一个印度教徒。 |
| 65 | But Vivek would come up here and say the Ten Commandments | 但Vivek会上来说十诫 |
| 66 | is one of the greatest moral breakthroughs ever. | 这是有史以来最大的道德突破之一。 |
| 67 | The point being, and this is what I'm getting at, | 重点是,这就是我得到的, |
| 68 | is that Christianity is the greatest ethic | 是基督教是最伟大的伦理 |
| 69 | that humanity has ever had to live under. | 人类曾经生活在其中 |
| 70 | Should we? | 应该吗? |
| 71 | Hold on a second. | 等一会 |
| 72 | Sorry, sorry. | 对不起,对不起。 |
| 73 | Christianity, as we know it, is the greatest moral ethic. | 我们知道,基督教是最大的道德伦理。 |
| 74 | And these are things you agree with. | 这些是你同意的 |
| 75 | Love the stranger, help others, have justice. | 爱陌生人,帮助他人,有正义. |
| 76 | Love thy neighbor. | 爱你的邻居 |
| 77 | Yeah, love thy neighbor as yourself, | 是啊,爱你的邻居 作为你自己, |
| 78 | like Leviticus 19, right? | 像利维提库斯19号,对吧? |
| 79 | These are beautiful teachings. | 这些都是美丽的教义。 |
| 80 | In fact, they're so beautiful that you think | 事实上,他们是如此美丽,你认为 |
| 81 | that they're common, when in reality, | 他们很常见, 当现实中, |
| 82 | the rest of the world doesn't always have them. | 其余世界并不总有它们。 |
| 83 | Even freedom of speech and natural rights | 甚至言论自由和自然权利 |
| 84 | and charity to the lesser, these are all Christian values. | 这些都是基督教的价值观。 |
| 85 | So what I'm getting at, though, | 所以,我得到了什么,虽然, |
| 86 | is if we remove Christian values, | 如果我们去除基督教价值观, |
| 87 | which you may or may not be suggesting, | 你们或许没有建议, |
| 88 | what do we replace them with? | 我们用什么代替他们? |
| 89 | I guess my question is more centered around | 我想我的问题 更集中围绕 |
| 90 | using taxpayer dollars. | 使用纳税人美元。 |
| 91 | Well, I guess I can leave with a question. | 好吧,我想我可以离开 一个问题。 |
| 92 | How do you feel about taxpayer dollars using | 你对纳税人使用 |
| 93 | to fund things like Bible teachings in public schools? | 资助公立学校的圣经教义? |
| 94 | Yeah, I totally support that. | 是啊,我完全支持这一点。 |
| 95 | The Bible is a historical document. | "圣经"是一份历史文献. |
| 96 | And so my question again is, | 所以我又问: |
| 97 | how would you feel about taxpayer dollars | 你对纳税人的感受如何? |
| 98 | going towards teachings of the Quran? | 向《古兰经》的教诲前进吗? |
| 99 | Well, they actually do that already. | 他们已经这么做了 |
| 100 | And are you in support of it? | 你支持吗? |
| 101 | Hold on a second, pause. | 等一下,暂停一下 |
| 102 | We do have a religious texts of a lot of public schools. | 我们确实有许多公立学校的宗教文本。 |
| 103 | Yes, we should look at all religious texts | 是的,我们应该看看所有的宗教文本 |
| 104 | of great faiths and learn and examine them. | 伟大的信仰,学习和检查它们。 |
| 105 | You know, okay, what does the Quran say? | 你知道,好吧,《古兰经》怎么说? |
| 106 | What does the Bible say? | 圣经怎么说的? |
| 107 | If it's in a public school. | 若在公学. |
| 108 | But I think you know what I'm getting, | 但我认为你知道我得到了什么, |
| 109 | like pointing at, because- | 就像指着,因为... |
| 110 | Sort of, but it's important to understand, though, | 有点,但重要的是要明白,虽然, |
| 111 | that only one of those texts was believed | 相信这些文字中只有一个 |
| 112 | and continued this country moving forward, | 继续这个国家前进, |
| 113 | which of course is the Holy Bible. | 这当然是圣经 |
| 114 | And the teachings of the Bible were at 55 out of 56 | 圣经的教义在56分之55 |
| 115 | of the signers of the Constitution, | 《宪法》的签署者, |
| 116 | were Bible-believing, church-attending Christians. | 是信仰圣经的基督徒 |
| 117 | God is mentioned four times | 上帝被提到四次 |
| 118 | in the Declaration of Independence, right? | 在独立宣言中,对不对? |
| 119 | We were an explicitly Christian country. | 我们是一个明确的基督教国家。 |
| 120 | In fact, John Adams said that the Constitution | 事实上,约翰·亚当斯说宪法 |
| 121 | was written holy for a moral and religious people. | 写给一个道德和宗教的人 |
| 122 | It's holy and adequate for the people of any other. | 令彼众生得圣足. |
| 123 | I might not convince you on this. | 我可能无法说服你 |
| 124 | What I might convince you on, though, | 但我会说服你 |
| 125 | is that if you say Christianity | 如果你说基督教 |
| 126 | should not be involved in our government, fine. | 不应该参与我们的政府,很好。 |
| 127 | You gotta replace it with something. | 你得换个东西 |
| 128 | And if you say it's neutral, | 如果你说是中立的 |
| 129 | there's no such thing as a neutral public square. | 没有中立的公共广场 |
| 130 | It doesn't exist. | 它不存在。 |
| 131 | Yeah, I'm not necessarily saying that, | 是啊,我不一定说, |
| 132 | and I'll be quick, | 我会很快 |
| 133 | because I know there's a couple I want to talk to you. | 因为我知道有一对夫妇 我想和你谈谈。 |
| 134 | But what I'm saying is, | 但我要说的是, |
| 135 | I would say that I disagree strictly with a certain teaching, | 我会说,我严格地不同意 一个特定的教义, |
| 136 | a certain religion, being the basis | 作为基础的某一宗教 |
| 137 | of what we take all beneficial teachings | 我们所接受的一切有益的教导 |
| 138 | that we apply to the United States. | 我们适用于美国。 |
| 139 | Fine, but then who chooses the moral code? | 好吧,但谁选择道德守则? |
| 140 | I think that the people as a whole, | 我认为整个人民, |
| 141 | who can represent different religions, | 他们能代表不同的宗教, |
| 142 | who can represent different beliefs and opinions. | 他们可以代表不同的信仰和观点。 |
| 143 | It shouldn't have to come from a specific religion, | 它不应该来自一个特定的宗教, |
| 144 | because what does that one religion teach | 因为这个宗教教的是什么 |
| 145 | that the other opposing viewpoints or atheism can't teach? | 其他对立的观点或无神论不能教? |
| 146 | Hold on a second. | 等一会 |
| 147 | No, that's an interesting question. | 不,这是一个有趣的问题。 |
| 148 | What does Christianity teach that others do not? | 基督教教别人不教什么? |
| 149 | A lot, a lot. | 甚处来. |
| 150 | For example, in Christianity explicitly, | 例如,在基督教中, |
| 151 | there are beliefs that are not found in Buddhism or Hinduism. | 有些信仰在佛教或印度教中并不存在. |
| 152 | And again, just look at the fruit. | 再说一遍,看看果实 |
| 153 | The West is a Christian project. | 西方是一个基督教项目. |
| 154 | So why would we cut the fruit from its vine? | 那么我们为什么要从它的藤里切水果呢? |
| 155 | Why would we cut the flower from its roots? | 我们为什么要从树根上切花? |
| 156 | Yeah, and my question is, | 是啊,我的问题是, |
| 157 | because I think that there's a lot of disagreeing points | 因为我认为有很多不同的观点 |
| 158 | of view that conflict that, right? | 认为冲突,对不对? |
| 159 | Abortion rights. | 堕胎权。 |
| 160 | I know that it is a largely Christian value | 我知道这是基督教的价值 |
| 161 | to not be in support of a woman's right to choose | 不支持妇女的选择权 |
| 162 | whether or not she has an abortion, right? | 她是否堕胎,对不对? |
| 163 | Yeah, to protect innocent life, for sure. | 是的,当然是为了保护无辜的生命 |
| 164 | And I know that you are also anti-democracy, | 我知道你也反对民主 |
| 165 | and a small- | 和一个小... |
| 166 | I'm pro-elections, but yeah. | 我赞成选举,但是是的。 |
| 167 | Yes, and you're opposed to a, | 是的,你反对一个, |
| 168 | just the majority ruling over the rest of people, right? | 只有多数人统治着其他人,对吧? |
| 169 | And so why is it that you are in support of people | 你为何支持别人? |
| 170 | that make up the slight majority, | 占少数的, |
| 171 | having power to instill legislation and rules and laws | 有权推行立法和规则及法律 |
| 172 | that their religion teaches on the rest of the society, | 他们的宗教教导社会其他成员, |
| 173 | is what I'm saying. | 我就是这个意思 |
| 174 | First of all, you can't have a free society | 首先,你不能有一个自由的社会 |
| 175 | without having some sort of a belief in God. | 没有某种信仰上帝。 |
| 176 | So then why should we use Christian teachings | 那么我们为什么要用基督教教义 |
| 177 | to apply that to the rest of society | 适用于社会其他成员 |
| 178 | when they disagree with them? | 当他们与他们争论的时候, |
| 179 | Well, first of all, it's the best. | 首先,这是最好的。 |
| 180 | Show me a better alternative. | 给我个更好的选择 |
| 181 | No, seriously, I mean, you can laugh at it. | 不,说真的,我是说,你可以笑它。 |
| 182 | Show me a society that has gone away from Christianity | 让我看看一个脱离基督教的社会 |
| 183 | and has improved itself. | 并改进了自己。 |
| 184 | What I'm saying- No, no, no, it's important. | 我说的是... 不,不,不,这很重要。 |
| 185 | I believe that America should remain Christian. | 我认为美国应该保持基督教。 |
| 186 | Show me a formerly Christian country in Europe | 给我看看欧洲一个基督教国家 |
| 187 | that has gone away from Christianity | 远离基督教 |
| 188 | and has become a better, stronger, more better- | 变得更好、更强、更好 |
| 189 | What I would point you to is probably towards a country | 我想告诉你的可能是 走向一个国家 |
| 190 | that does not apply those values | 不应用这些值 |
| 191 | to things like abortion rights. | 给堕胎权之类的东西 |
| 192 | So I'll probably point to, so like, | 所以我可能会指出, 所以, |
| 193 | I'll probably point to Norway. | 我可能会指向挪威。 |
| 194 | I'll probably point you to a lot of the places like that | 我可能会指给你很多这样的地方 |
| 195 | because they're not having people die | 因为他们不会有人死 |
| 196 | from lack of access to abortion. | 缺乏堕胎机会。 |
| 197 | And this is where we just have disagreement. | 这就是我们意见不一的地方 |
| 198 | I think Europe is a disaster right now. | 我认为欧洲现在是一个灾难。 |
| 199 | I think Europe is a husk of its former self. | 我认为欧洲是它的前身 |
| 200 | What I'm arguing is that I'm saying, | 我所争论的是,我说, |
| 201 | in the specific areas of that, | 在这方面, |
| 202 | there's not people literally dying | 没有人真的会死 |
| 203 | because they're forced to give birth to a human | 因为他们被迫生下人类 |
| 204 | that they don't wanna carry | 他们不想携带 |
| 205 | and they don't have proper access to abortion. | 他们不能正常堕胎 |
| 206 | Those are Christian teachings that are not being questioned. | 这些是基督教教义,没有受到质疑。 |
| 207 | In this country, we have babies literally dying | 在这个国家,我们有 婴儿实际上死亡 |
| 208 | in the womb every single day. | 每天在子宫里 |
| 209 | Yeah, yeah, yeah. | 对,对,对 |
| 210 | 3,000 abortions a day. | 每日堕胎3000例. |
| 211 | I mean, I think that's a big deal, | 我的意思是,我认为这是一个大问题, |
| 212 | but I also, at the same time, | 但我也同时, |
| 213 | you know, are those same Christian teachings | 你知道,那些同样的基督教教义 |
| 214 | kind of being questioned? | 有点被质疑了? |
| 215 | I would just ask, again, you don't have to answer it. | 我只是问,再次, 你不必回答。 |
| 216 | This is an interesting question for you. | 这是一个有趣的问题给你。 |
| 217 | I don't want you to think about this | 我不想让你考虑这个 |
| 218 | for the next week or two. | 接下来的一周或两周。 |
| 219 | The most important book in my life | 我生命中最重要的书 |
| 220 | of which all truth stems from is the Bible. | 其中所有的真理都来源于圣经. |
| 221 | What is your most important book? | 你最重要的书是什么? |
| 222 | The Right-Wing Revolution by Charlie Kirk. | 查理·柯克的"右翼革命". |
| 223 | Without the troll though, but like, it's important | 没有巨怪,但一样, 这很重要 |
| 224 | because at some point you have to appeal to something. | 因为在某个时候,你不得不对某件事有吸引力。 |
| 225 | You have to have a rule book. | 你必须有一本规则书。 |
| 226 | Every speech, all human beings | 每个演讲,所有的人 |
| 227 | need a rule book for life. | 一生需要一本规则书 |
| 228 | We tell you what our rule book is. | 我们告诉你我们的规则是什么 |
| 229 | What, and you know, I know it's like putting it on the spot, | 什么,你知道, 我知道这就像把它放在现场, |
| 230 | but think about it, and if you don't have a rule book, | 但是想想 如果你没有一本规则书 |
| 231 | you're lying to yourself. | 你骗自己。 |
| 232 | Everybody has a rule book you live by. | 每个人都有一个规则书 你住。 |
| 233 | You just gotta tell us what it is. | 你只需要告诉我们是什么 |
| 234 | Fair enough. | 不错 |
| 235 | All right, cool. | 好吧,冷静。 |
| 236 | Thank you, thank you, man. | 谢谢,谢谢你,伙计。 |
| 237 | Think about that, okay? | 想想,好吗? |
| 238 | Hey Charlie, thank you for being here. | 嘿 查理 谢谢你能来 |
| 239 | My question to you, | 我问你的问题 |
| 240 | and I just want to confirm your position on something. | 我只想确认一下你的立场 |
| 241 | You are anti-death penalty, is that correct? | 你是反死刑,是吗? |
| 242 | Pro. | 职业。 |
| 243 | You're pro-death penalty? | 你赞成死刑? |
| 244 | I've done this once already, but yes, correct. | 我已经做了一次,但是是的,没错。 |
| 245 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 246 | I used to be anti, but I, yes, fine. | 我以前是反对的,但我,是的,很好。 |
| 247 | I just want to ask about consistency. | 我只想问一下一致性 |
| 248 | So, consistency. | 所以,一致性。 |
| 249 | One thing that irritates me about liberals | 有一件事让我对自由主义者感到恼火 |
| 250 | is they'll say things like, yeah, we're pro-choice. | 他们会说,是的,我们赞成选择。 |
| 251 | But then when it comes to like vaccinations | 但是当涉及到疫苗的时候 |
| 252 | in my body, my choice, | 在我的身体, 我的选择, |
| 253 | suddenly they're not so pro-choice anymore. | 突然他们不再支持选择了 |
| 254 | I feel like conservatives do the same thing, | 我觉得保守派也一样 |
| 255 | but only pro-life side. | 但只有亲生命一方。 |
| 256 | So can you defend- | 所以,你可以捍卫 - |
| 257 | Come on, man, you seem so much smarter than that. | 来吧,伙计,你看起来 聪明得多。 |
| 258 | What do you think my answer is? | 你觉得我的答案是什么? |
| 259 | I don't, because it is something bad. | 我没有,因为它是坏东西。 |
| 260 | Well, yeah. | 对 |
| 261 | But if life is invaluable, | 但如果生命是宝贵的 |
| 262 | then why do you not consider it valuable | 那你们为什么不认为它有价值呢? |
| 263 | throughout the whole lifespan? | 整个生命周期? |
| 264 | Not just the beginning. | 不只是开始 |
| 265 | Because you believe in putting criminals in jail, right? | 因为你相信把罪犯关进监狱 是吗? |
| 266 | Yes. | 对 |
| 267 | Which is a taking of their rights. | 这是对他们权利的剥夺。 |
| 268 | Not their life. | 不是他们的生活。 |
| 269 | Well, again, but their whole life is completely changed. | 嗯,再次,但他们的整个生活 完全改变了。 |
| 270 | So I guess it's also an insult to the victim, isn't it? | 我想这也是对受害者的侮辱 是吗? |
| 271 | Saying that your life doesn't matter so much | 说你的生活不重要 |
| 272 | that your murderer can keep on living, | 你的凶手可以继续活下去 |
| 273 | but you yourself aren't living. | 但你自己没有活着 |
| 274 | It's actually devalues the value of the victim, | 它实际上贬低了受害者的价值, |
| 275 | or the victims, actually, in a lot of times. | 或受害者,实际上, 在很多时候。 |
| 276 | And you have, this is Make America Holy again. | 你做到了,这是让美国再次神圣。 |
| 277 | God repeated in all five books of the Torah, | 神在《讨拉特》的所有五本书中都重复了 |
| 278 | you take a life, your life will be taken. | 你杀了人,你就会被夺走 |
| 279 | To the consistency argument, | 对于一致性的论点, |
| 280 | if there is a baby here in the womb, | 如果有婴儿在这里的子宫, |
| 281 | that baby has done nothing wrong. | 宝宝没有做错什么。 |
| 282 | Whereas a guy who went and shot up a school | 有个家伙打中了学校 |
| 283 | did a lot wrong. | 做了很多错事。 |
| 284 | And so the only answer is to say, | 所以唯一的答案就是说, |
| 285 | we value human life so much | 我们如此珍视人的生命 |
| 286 | that you don't get to keep on living | 让你无法继续生活 |
| 287 | if you take a precious human life. | 如果你夺走了宝贵的人的生命 |
| 288 | It's actually an explicitly pro-life position. | 它实际上是一个明显的亲生状态. |
| 289 | Because it's honoring the dead and honoring the victim | 因为它尊重死者和受害者 |
| 290 | so much that it's not just one to be discarded. | 如此之多,它不仅仅是一个被抛弃。 |
| 291 | That's, oh, it's not just a clump of cells. | 这不仅仅是一团细胞 |
| 292 | You see, to be against the death penalty | 你看,反对死刑 |
| 293 | is actually consistent for the left. | 左侧其实是一致的。 |
| 294 | Because they're like, oh, you know, | 因为他们就像,哦,你知道, |
| 295 | it's just a bunch of clump of cells | 只是一堆细胞 |
| 296 | that got shot up at a school. | 在学校中枪的 |
| 297 | It doesn't really matter. | 这不重要 |
| 298 | Go put him in a jail. | 去把他关进监狱 |
| 299 | Where we say, no, that's a life you took. | 我们说,不,那是你夺走的生命。 |
| 300 | And you don't get to keep on having breath | 而你没有 保持呼吸 |
| 301 | if you go take another precious human life. | 如果你去取另一个宝贵的人的生命。 |
| 302 | Does that make sense? | 这有道理吗? |
| 303 | It makes sense. | 说得通 |
| 304 | And how do you defend, there's a flat-out commandment. | 且如何防御,有平定戒律. |
| 305 | It doesn't get much clearer. | 更无甚明. |
| 306 | Thou shalt not kill. | 你不应该杀人。 |
| 307 | We did this earlier. | 我们之前就这么做了 |
| 308 | I can't hear anything on the other side, I'm sorry. | 我听不到另一边,对不起。 |
| 309 | It says, thou shalt not murder, | 上面写着 你不能杀人 |
| 310 | not thou shalt not kill. | 你不能杀人 |
| 311 | So killing and murder are two different words in Hebrew. | 因此杀戮和谋杀是希伯来语中两个不同的词. |
| 312 | It says, thou shalt not murder, not kill. | 上面写着 你不能杀人,不能杀人 |
| 313 | Again, I could repeat this, repeat it just over on ad nauseum. | 再说一遍,我要重复一遍,在恶心上重复一遍 |
| 314 | God has a law in the scriptures. | 神通经中有法. |
| 315 | If you are to take a life, your life shall be taken from you. | 若欲夺命,则命必从汝. |
| 316 | Why is that? | 为什么? |
| 317 | God went and explained in the Torah, | 真主在《讨拉特》中加以解释, |
| 318 | it's because human life is so precious, | 因为人的生命如此珍贵 |
| 319 | you shall not be able to continue. | 你将无法继续。 |
| 320 | The only punishment is that your life | 唯一的惩罚是你的生命 |
| 321 | should also be taken from you. | 也应该从你身上拿走 |
| 322 | Okay, thank you. | 好的 谢谢 |
| 323 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 324 | I don't want to try to debate, | 我不想试图辩论, |
| 325 | I just want to hear your explanation. | 我只是想听听你的解释 |
| 326 | It's fine, yeah, thank you. | 没事,谢谢 |
| 327 | What's up, Charlie? | 怎么样,查理? |
| 328 | Welcome to Florida State. | 欢迎来到佛罗里达州 |
| 329 | My question has to do with culture. | 我的问题与文化有关。 |
| 330 | I was wondering, close to the mic, okay. | 我在想,接近麦克风,好吗? |
| 331 | I was wondering why doesn't the right have, | 我在想为什么权利没有 |
| 332 | like the left has dominated culture for so long, | 就像左翼在文化中占据主导地位这么久一样 |
| 333 | they have the feminist movement, | 他们有女权运动, |
| 334 | we can blame that for destroying the nuclear home, | 我们可以怪罪于摧毁核电厂 |
| 335 | we can blame that for destroying marriages in a lot of ways, | 我们可以怪罪那些 破坏婚姻的方式很多, |
| 336 | but how do we kind of work backwards from that, | 但是,我们如何工作 从后, |
| 337 | kind of get back to the core American values, | 那种回到美国的核心价值, |
| 338 | you know, lower the divorce rate, | 你知道,降低离婚率, |
| 339 | lower single motherhood, things like that. | 单身母亲,类似的事情。 |
| 340 | It doesn't seem to be like a practical solution | 这似乎不是一个实际的解决办法 |
| 341 | that's been even attempted by the right. | 这甚至被右侧尝试。 |
| 342 | Well, the practical solution, we don't have to think, | 实际的解决办法,我们不用想 |
| 343 | we need to point people to God | 我们要把人指向上帝 |
| 344 | and eventually to Jesus Christ, | 最终对耶稣基督, |
| 345 | and that is the solution, | 这就是解决办法, |
| 346 | is that people need to humble themselves before the Lord, | 难道人们在主那里要谦逊吗? |
| 347 | they need to go back to church, | 他们需要回到教堂, |
| 348 | they need to get married before they have sex, | 他们需要在做爱前结婚, |
| 349 | they need to stop engaging in debauchery | 他们必须停止放荡 |
| 350 | and limitless amounts of drinking | 和无量的饮料, |
| 351 | and the sins of the flesh, | 和肉体的罪恶, |
| 352 | and understand that there's a God who loves them | 并且明白有上帝爱他们 |
| 353 | that wants them to live a certain way, | 想要他们以某种方式生活 |
| 354 | and it's not a matter of the feminist movement | 这与女权运动无关 |
| 355 | or the Black Lives Matter movement, | 或黑色生命物质运动, |
| 356 | we need a movement that is centered | 我们需要一个中心运动 |
| 357 | around spiritual eternal principles, | 围绕精神永恒的原则, |
| 358 | and yeah, make America holy again, | 是的,使美国再次神圣, |
| 359 | make America Christian again, | 让美国再次成为基督徒, |
| 360 | but revival will only happen with repentance, | 惟有悔罪自新, |
| 361 | and repentance is at odd with pride, | 悔过自大, |
| 362 | and so we have an entire month dedicated to pride, | 所以我们有整整一个月的时间 献给骄傲, |
| 363 | by the way, which is, you must acknowledge two things, | 顺便说一句 你必须承认两件事 |
| 364 | there is a God and we are not him, | 有一个神,我们不是他, |
| 365 | those two things are fundamental | 这两件事很重要 |
| 366 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}希望是谦卑 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}我愿意为他感到骄傲 | |
| 367 | of getting in front of your creator, | 在你的创造者面前 |
| 368 | understanding that you fall short of the glory of God | 体会到你们与神的荣耀不符 |
| 369 | with the eyes on the cross | 双眼在十字架上 |
| 370 | and understanding the significance of what the cross is | 并了解什么是十字架的意义 |
| 371 | and what it means for your life, | 以及那对你生命的意义 |
| 372 | and with that will come widespread nationwide change, | 随之而来的是全国范围的变革, |
| 373 | we are seeing some promising trends, | 我们看到了一些有希望的趋势, |
| 374 | church attendance is slightly going up, | 教堂出勤率略有上升, |
| 375 | Gen Z,特别是Gen Z的人, | |
| 376 | are more religious than millennial men, | 比千年男人更虔诚 |
| 377 | and it is increasing and growing, | 它不断增长, |
| 378 | and young women, we got some things to work through, | 年轻女性,我们有一些事情要解决, |
| 379 | but we will not save the country just through politics, | 但我们不会通过政治拯救国家 |
| 380 | politics is a means towards an end, | 政治是走向目的的手段 |
| 381 | a means towards liberty, | 实现自由的手段, |
| 382 | but liberty is not man's idea, it's God's idea, | 但自由不是人的想法 这是上帝的想法 |
| 383 | and we are only able to experience that liberty | 我们只能体验这种自由 |
| 384 | if we are a moral and religious people, | 如果我们是一个道德和宗教的人, |
| 385 | and I'll close the statement with this, | 我会用这个结束陈述 |
| 386 | that the constitution is incompatible | 宪法是不相容的 |
| 387 | with a faithless nation, | 以不信道的民族盟誓, |
| 388 | you will not have a free society | 你将没有自由的社会 |
| 389 | if the country goes atheist, | 如果这个国家是无神论者, |
| 390 | you will not have a free society | 你将没有自由的社会 |
| 391 | if the country goes secular, | 如果国家世俗化 |
| 392 | that sounds provocative, but it's true, | 这听起来很挑衅,但这是真的, |
| 393 | is that liberty and freedom cannot coexist | 自由和自由不能共存 |
| 394 | with a nation that does not believe in a higher power, | 与不信道的民族, |
| 395 | because eventually you're going to want to have | 因为你最终会想要 |
| 396 | some form of meaning in your life, | 你生命中的某种意义 |
| 397 | and usually that meaning is left in politics, | 而通常意义 留在政治, |
| 398 | and I'm not trying to pick on all those people | 我不是想挑剔这些人 |
| 399 | chanting out there, | 在那里高喊着, |
| 400 | because they're actually crying for help, | 因为他们实际上在哭求帮助, |
| 401 | and I mean that, | 我是认真的, |
| 402 | because how many of them, and I mean this, | 因为有多少人,我的意思是, |
| 403 | how many of them do you think | 你觉得有多少人 |
| 404 | go to church on a regular basis? | 经常去教堂吗? |
| 405 | Almost none, and that's not me picking on them, | 几乎没有,那不是我挑剔他们, |
| 406 | but there's a reason, | 但有一个原因, |
| 407 | because they're having a quasi-religious | 因为他们有一个准宗教 |
| 408 | experience right now, | 现在的经验, |
| 409 | they're all chanting at the same time, | 他们都同时高喊, |
| 410 | they feel like they're part of something bigger, | 他们觉得自己是大人物的一部分 |
| 411 | they think they're fighting evil, | 他们认为他们在与邪恶斗争, |
| 412 | which of course they're not, | 当然不是 |
| 413 | but there's a religious element to that, | 但有一个宗教因素, |
| 414 | when America was at its best, | 当美国是最好的, |
| 415 | when you didn't march in the streets, | 当你没有游行 在街道上, |
| 416 | but instead you went to the church | 但你却去了教堂 |
| 417 | and bowed before your creator to go find your meaning, | 在你的创造者面前叩头, |
| 418 | and so when they're chanting out here, | 所以当他们在这里高喊, |
| 419 | you should love on them, | 你应该爱他们, |
| 420 | be like do you believe in God, | 象你们信仰真主一样, |
| 421 | like have you been to church, | 就像你去过教堂一样 |
| 422 | and I guarantee almost to a person, | 我向一个人保证, |
| 423 | 99% of the activists left on this campus | 99%的活跃分子 留在这个校园 |
| 424 | have either a bad experience with religion, | 在宗教方面有不好的经验, |
| 425 | doesn't think that God loves them, | 不认为上帝爱他们, |
| 426 | doesn't think that God is good, | 不认为上帝是好的, |
| 427 | or they're an atheist, | 或者他们是无神论者, |
| 428 | so you fill that void with left-wing politics, | 你用左翼政治填补这个空白 |
| 429 | because left-wing politics mirrors religion, | 因为左翼政治反映了宗教 |
| 430 | it feels like a religious experience, | 感觉像是宗教经历 |
| 431 | so there's a thinker by the name of Emil Durkheim, | 所以有个思想家叫埃米尔·杜尔海姆 |
| 432 | which some of you guys may or may not know, | 你们中有些人可能知道 也可能不知道 |
| 433 | who talked about what is religion, | 他谈论什么是宗教, |
| 434 | and he says the things that have in common with religion | 他说了与宗教有共同之处 |
| 435 | is that people will all say the same thing, | 难道人们都会这么说吗? |
| 436 | they'll meet on a regular basis, | 他们会定期见面, |
| 437 | they'll agree on an objective, | 他们会同意一个目标, |
| 438 | that is the Black Lives Matter movement, | 这是黑色生命物质运动, |
| 439 | or the trans movement, or whatever, | 或转动,或任何东西, |
| 440 | and we should say hey, | 我们应该说,嘿, |
| 441 | instead of making those things your God, | 而不是把这些东西变成你的神 |
| 442 | you should believe in the God of the Bible, | 你应该相信圣经中的神, |
| 443 | the God that loved you enough to send his son to die for you | 深爱着你的上帝 送儿子去为你而死 |
| 444 | so that you may live forever, | 以便你们永居其中, |
| 445 | thank you so much, appreciate it, thank you. | 非常感谢,谢谢,谢谢 |
| 446 | Hi Charlie, it's nice to meet you, | 嗨,查理,很高兴见到你, |
| 447 | my name is Salma, thanks for coming. | 我叫莎玛,谢谢你能来 |
| 448 | As a child of a Moroccan and Peruvian immigrant | 作为摩洛哥和秘鲁移民的子女 |
| 449 | who came into the U.S. legally, | 他们合法进入美国, |
| 450 | and we're in the process for 10 years, | 而我们在这个过程中 10年, |
| 451 | it's frustrating to see so much biased media outlets | 看到这么多有偏见的媒体 令人沮丧 |
| 452 | nowadays propagandizing Trump as a racist, | 现今宣传特朗普为种族主义者, |
| 453 | who doesn't want immigrants in this country, | 他们不想移民到这个国家, |
| 454 | instead of understanding he's protecting us | 而不是理解他在保护我们 |
| 455 | from illegal criminals who cut in line, | 远离非法的罪犯, |
| 456 | so to inform the liberals behind us protesting | 通知我们背后的自由主义者 |
| 457 | to get racist off campus, or people listening right now, | 让种族主义者离开校园 或人们听现在, |
| 458 | what would you say are the long term | 你会说什么是长期 |
| 459 | or short term consequences of mass illegal immigration | 大规模非法移民的短期后果 |
| 460 | on social services and the economy? | 社会服务和经济? |
| 461 | Yeah, I mean it will flood schools, flood hospitals, | 是的,我的意思是,它会 洪水学校,洪水医院, |
| 462 | but even more than that, | 但不止这些 |
| 463 | it's the destruction of the rule of law, | 这是对法治的破坏, |
| 464 | and it's an insult to your family that followed the law, | 这是对你家人的侮辱 遵循法律, |
| 465 | your family came here the right way, | 你的家人来得正好 |
| 466 | and filled out the paperwork, and waited your turn, | 填好文件 等待轮到你 |
| 467 | you did not cut in line, | 你没有排队, |
| 468 | so we have to make a decision, | 所以我们得做个决定 |
| 469 | are we gonna be a country that follows and honors the rules, | 我们要成为一个遵守规则的国家吗? |
| 470 | or rewards rule breakers, | 或赏罚犯规者, |
| 471 | and we teach our kids at two years old, | 我们教我们的孩子两岁, |
| 472 | rule breakers get punished, don't cut in line, | 违反规则者会受到惩罚,不要排队 |
| 473 | wait your turn, yet when it comes to immigration, | 等待你的轮回, 然而当涉及到移民, |
| 474 | we act as if it's something totally different, | 我们表现得好像完全不同 |
| 475 | we want people like your family to come here the right way, | 我们希望像你们这样的人 以正确的方式来到这里, |
| 476 | legally, not breaking in line, | 法律上,不违反规则, |
| 477 | and then all of a sudden getting rewards because of that. | 然后突然因为这个而得到奖励 |
| 478 | Oh my bad, I'm sorry, what's up Charlie? | 哦,我的错,对不起,怎么了查理? |
| 479 | So I am a second year master's student in student affairs, | 所以我是学生事务二年级硕士生 |
| 480 | and I see you got an anti-DEI shirt on, | 我看到你穿了一件反DEI衬衫 |
| 481 | so this is about to get good. | 因此,这是即将好起来。 |
| 482 | I personally don't, I personally believe in DEI, | 我个人没有 我个人相信DEI |
| 483 | I think that it actually helps with including, | 我认为这实际上有助于纳入, |
| 484 | create an inclusivity within PWIs, | 在PWIs内部建立包容性, |
| 485 | in predominantly white institutions, | 在以白人为主的机构中, |
| 486 | and I also believe that, not going to FSU, FSU, | 我也相信,不是去FSU,FSU, |
| 487 | that's where I go at, | 这就是我要去的地方, |
| 488 | but I also believe that this is the reason why | 但我也相信这就是为什么 |
| 489 | I wanted to get into student affairs, | 我想进入学生事务, |
| 490 | because I believe that with the DEI being present | 因为我相信随着DEI的存在 |
| 491 | within our campuses, | 在我们的校园, |
| 492 | we actually are able to build inclusivity | 我们实际上能够建立包容性 |
| 493 | for students who are first gen, | 对于第一流的学生, |
| 494 | for minoritized students, for veteran students | 为未成年学生,为退休学生 |
| 495 | who are coming onto these campuses, | 他们将来到这些校园, |
| 496 | and actually being able to feel | 和实际上能够感觉到 |
| 497 | like they have somewhere for them on campus. | 就像他们在校园里有个地方 |
| 498 | As well, I understand the counter argument, | 我也理解这个论点 |
| 499 | but I'm gonna let you go first, I'm sorry. | 但我会先让你走,对不起。 |
| 500 | Well, instead of debating DEI, | 而不是辩论DEI, |
| 501 | why don't you define it further | 何不进一步定义呢? |
| 502 | so we can make sure we're talking about the same thing? | 这样我们才能确定我们是在谈论同样的事情? |
| 503 | Got you, so diversity, equity, and inclusion. | 得到了你,如此多样性, 公平和包容。 |
| 504 | I know what that means. | 我知道这意味着什么 |
| 505 | Okay, okay, my fault, my fault, my fault. | 好吧,好吧,我的错,我的错,我的错。 |
| 506 | Well, I would say DEI stands for didn't earn it, | 嗯,我会说,DEI支持 它没有赢得它, |
| 507 | but that's a separate issue. | 但那是一个单独的问题。 |
| 508 | Ooh, didn't earn it, you been working on that? | 哦,不是挣来的,你一直在努力吗? |
| 509 | Tight shit, tight shit, tight shit, tight shit. | 紧屎,紧屎,紧屎,紧屎。 |
| 510 | So, yes, a lot of people think that in that regards, | 所以,是的,很多人 认为在这方面, |
| 511 | which is a counter argument to it, | 这是对它的反驳。 |
| 512 | but I honestly believe that the fact | 但我真的相信事实 |
| 513 | that you got to this point | 你到了这一点 |
| 514 | where you was already unrepresented on these campuses | 在那里你已经无人代理 在这些校园 |
| 515 | already shows that you did actually earn | 已经显示你确实挣到了 |
| 516 | to get those funding, | 为了获得这些资助, |
| 517 | did actually earn to get that exclusivity tailored to you | 其实是赚到的 专有的适合你 |
| 518 | because the fact that you even made it to the campus | 因为你甚至赶到校园 |
| 519 | where a lot of people in disproportionate communities | 在不相称的社区很多人 |
| 520 | don't make it a lot out of, | 不要让它很多出, |
| 521 | at least you can have, | 至少你可以拥有, |
| 522 | is a place on campus where you feel included at. | 是校园里一个你觉得被包容的地方 |
| 523 | That would be my argument. | 那是我的论点。 |
| 524 | Yeah, so I don't know what DEI looks like on this campus. | 是啊,所以我不知道什么 DEI看起来像在这个校园。 |
| 525 | So I can't speak to that. | 所以,我不能说话。 |
| 526 | Let's try to find some common ground. | 让我们试着找到一些共同点。 |
| 527 | Do you think people should be hired | 你觉得应该雇人吗? |
| 528 | based on their race or their competency? | 根据他们的种族或能力? |
| 529 | I don't think that. | 我不这么认为。 |
| 530 | I think they should be raised. | 我认为他们应该被抚养长大。 |
| 531 | Which one? | 哪一个? |
| 532 | My fault, my fault, my fault. | 我的错,我的错,我的错。 |
| 533 | I think that they should be hired | 我觉得应该请他们 |
| 534 | based on their competency, not their race. | 因为他们的能力,而不是他们的种族。 |
| 535 | We totally agree, right? | 我们完全同意,对不对? |
| 536 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 537 | So what DEI does in practice, not in theory, | DEI在实际中做什么 而不是在理论上 |
| 538 | is it focuses on race more than competency. | 它只关注种族而不是能力 |
| 539 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 540 | That is our concern. | 这是我们的关切。 |
| 541 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 542 | And so what I want, and you seem very passionate | 所以我想要的,你看起来很热情 |
| 543 | about a lot of things, and you obviously have skills. | 关于很多事情, 而你显然有技能。 |
| 544 | For your life, I want you always to be judged | 为了你的一生,我希望你永远受到审判 |
| 545 | on the content of your character, | 关于你的角色内容, |
| 546 | not the color of your skin. | 不是皮肤的颜色 |
| 547 | Which is actually, as you know, | 这其实,你知道, |
| 548 | Martin Luther King gave this big speech. | 马丁·路德·金做了这个大演讲. |
| 549 | Yeah, I know, but he is an ideal, | 是的,我知道,但他是一个理想, |
| 550 | I agree with this sentence, for sure. | 我当然同意这句话。 |
| 551 | Where DEI says, no, we're actually gonna care | DEI说,不,我们真的会在乎 |
| 552 | more about skin color than competency. | 更多关于肤色而不是能力。 |
| 553 | And so what we want is an America based on merit. | 所以我们想要的是一个基于功绩的美国。 |
| 554 | America based on how hard you work. | 美国基于你多么努力的工作。 |
| 555 | And America based on what you bring to the table, | 而美国基于 你带来的桌子, |
| 556 | not just what you look like. | 不只是你的样子。 |
| 557 | I got you, and I understand that very well. | 我得到了你, 我非常了解这一点。 |
| 558 | And I think that that's a profound position to have with it. | 我认为这是一个非常深刻的立场。 |
| 559 | And, oh. | 还有,哦。 |
| 560 | No, you're good. | 不,你是个好人。 |
| 561 | And I know you gotta go. | 我知道你该走了 |
| 562 | No, no, no, you're good. | 不,不,不,你没事。 |
| 563 | Keep going. | 继续 |
| 564 | Okay, okay. | 好,好,好,我们走 |
| 565 | So my last thing is, and I'll make it short, | 所以,我最后一件事是, 我会让它简短, |
| 566 | because we are going to agree on that, | 因为我们将会同意这一点, |
| 567 | but agree on the whole anti-DEI movement. | 但同意整个反民主国际运动 |
| 568 | But I will say that Drake or Kendrick Lamar, who won? | 但我会说德雷克或肯德里克·拉马尔 谁赢了? |
| 569 | I like Kendrick Lamar. | 我喜欢肯德里克·拉马尔 |
| 570 | I'm not a rapper guy. | 我不是说唱歌手 |
| 571 | Oh, hell no. | 哦,地狱没有。 |
| 572 | The only thing I know about this is the anti-pedophile thing, | 我唯一知道的就是反恋童癖 |
| 573 | which I support completely. | 我完全支持这一点。 |
| 574 | So the fact he goes after Drake for being... | 所以他去找德雷克是因为... |
| 575 | No, no, you can't say that. | 不,不,你不能这么说。 |
| 576 | Sexy songs for you, baby, you know what I'm saying? | 性感的歌给你,宝贝,你知道我在说什么吗? |
| 577 | Go, Drake. | 去吧,德雷克,别这样 |
| 578 | I don't know a single song between either of them. | 两人之间我一首歌都不认识. |
| 579 | All I know is that if you even engage in pedophile stuff, | 我只知道如果你还做恋童癖的事 |
| 580 | you're no-go. | 你别走 |
| 581 | But can we both agree, though, | 但我们能同意吗? |
| 582 | that the less we talk about race as a country, | 我们谈论种族作为一个国家越少, |
| 583 | probably better. | 也许更好。 |
| 584 | That if we look at people as human beings first | 如果我们先把人看成人 |
| 585 | and not race. | 而不是种族。 |
| 586 | I agree with that. | 我同意这一点。 |
| 587 | We can agree. | 我们可以同意 |
| 588 | Thank you, man. | 谢谢 |
| 589 | God bless you. | 上帝保佑你们。 |
| 590 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 591 | Thank you, man. | 谢谢 |
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