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密州参院党内分歧 桑德斯力挺埃尔赛义德 | 2026.11.

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0:01We begin with someone who has been on the campaign trail我们从一个在竞选过程中的人开始
0:04quite a bit, although he is not up for re-election.有点,虽然他不准备连任。
0:07That's Vermont Independent Senator Bernie Sanders,那是佛蒙特州独立参议员伯尼·桑德斯
0:10who joins us from Burlington.他从伯灵顿加入我们
0:12Good morning to you, Senator.早上好,参议员
0:16Good morning.早上好,你好吗?
0:16I've been told you've hosted teller rallies,我听说你主持过监票人集会
0:19town halls for Maine and Michigan this weekend,缅因州和密歇根州的市政厅 这个周末,
0:21Troy Jackson, Abdul Al Sayed.特洛伊·杰克逊,阿卜杜勒·阿尔·赛义德.
0:23You're focused as well on Florida and Minnesota.你同样关注佛罗里达州和明尼苏达州
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1We begin with someone who has been on the campaign trail我们从一个在竞选过程中的人开始
2quite a bit, although he is not up for re-election.有点,虽然他不准备连任。
3That's Vermont Independent Senator Bernie Sanders,那是佛蒙特州独立参议员伯尼·桑德斯
4who joins us from Burlington.他从伯灵顿加入我们
5Good morning to you, Senator.早上好,参议员
6Good morning.早上好,你好吗?
7I've been told you've hosted teller rallies,我听说你主持过监票人集会
8town halls for Maine and Michigan this weekend,缅因州和密歇根州的市政厅 这个周末,
9Troy Jackson, Abdul Al Sayed.特洛伊·杰克逊,阿卜杜勒·阿尔·赛义德.
10You're focused as well on Florida and Minnesota.你同样关注佛罗里达州和明尼苏达州
11Why Florida, since it is likely GOP,为什么佛罗里达州,因为它可能是GOP,
12according to CBS numbers,根据CBS数字
13and CBS also rates Minnesota as likely Dem.CBS也把明尼苏达州评为德姆州
14Why focus there?为什么要专心?
15Well, I don't take anything for granted.好吧,我不认为什么是理所当然的。
16I think Angie Nixon in Florida我想安琪·尼克松在佛罗里达州
17is running a great grassroots campaign.正在开展一场伟大的基层运动。
18She pulled off a huge upset in the Democratic primary.她在民主党初选时 感到非常不安
19I think she has a real chance to win the general election.我认为她有真正的机会赢得大选。
20She is mobilizing working-class people all over this country,她正在动员全国的工人阶级人士,
21and she's talking about the right issues.她正在谈论正确的问题。
22And those issues are true in Minnesota,这些问题在明尼苏达是真实的
23they're true in Florida, they're true in Vermont.在佛罗里达州是真的 在佛蒙特州是真的
24People are disgusted and frustrated人们感到厌恶和沮丧
25with an economy in which the billionaires拥有一个亿万富翁的经济
26have never, ever had it so good.从来没有,从来没有有过这么好。
27Elon Musk now owns more wealth alone伊隆·穆斯克现在独家拥有更多的财富
28than the bottom 53% of American households,比美国底层53%的家庭,
29while millions of people today今天有数百万人
30are struggling to put food on the table,很难把食物放在桌上,
31pay for, fill up their gas tanks, pay for rent.支付,填充他们的油箱,支付租金。
32So what Angie is talking about,安琪在说什么?
33what Troy is talking about is an economy特洛伊说的是经济
34that works for all that's resonating.这对一切有共鸣的作用。
35Well, out in Michigan,嗯,在密歇根州,
36there appears some inner Democratic Party squabbles似乎有些民主党内部的争吵
37that are ongoing here正在这里进行的
38around the Senate candidate, Abdul El-Sayed.围绕参议院候选人阿卜杜勒·赛义德.
39There was a back and forth over the weekend周末时有前后
40with Congresswoman Haley Stevens.和众议员海莉史蒂文斯在一起
41She lost the primary, but she continues to make public她失去了小学, 但她继续公开
42her deep misgivings about backing him now,她对支持他深感疑虑
43citing concerns about his ads and his views on Israel.他提到对他关于以色列的广告和观点的关切。
44At this point, is the Democratic Party现在,是民主党
45just too divided to pull off a win in Michigan?在密歇根赢球太分了?
46Is it getting in its own way?它有碍它自己吗?
47No, I think, no, I think the, you know,不,我觉得,我想,你知道,
48Haley Stevens lost a very, very close primary.海莉·史蒂文斯失去了一个非常,非常接近的初级.
49I can understand being upset about that.我可以理解你对此感到不快
50But I think two days before the election,但我认为在选举前两天
51where people all over Michigan understand密歇根州各地的人都明白
52that this is the most important midterm election,这是最重要的中期选举,
53perhaps in the history of the United States,也许在美国历史上,
54because we are taking on the most dangerous president因为我们要对付最危险的总统
55that we've ever had.我们曾经有过的
56Somebody who's an authoritarian,一个独裁者,
57does not believe in the Constitution or the rule of law,不信宪法或法治,
58who wants to give massive tax breaks to billionaires他们想给亿万富翁大量税收减免
59for 15 million people off their healthcare,为1500万人提供医疗保健,
60that they had started an illegal,他们曾犯罪,
61unconstitutional war in Iran.伊朗违宪战争.
62So with the people in Michigan understand,因此,在密歇根人 了解,
63sure, we have disagreements with Abdul on this or that issue.当然,我们在这个问题上与阿卜杜勒有分歧。
64But from what I can see, all over the state,但从我所看到的 整个州
65people are standing up, they're gonna stand with Abdul,人们站起来,他们要和阿卜杜勒站在一起,
66take on somebody who will be nothing more找个人做个无所事事的人
67than a rubber stamp for the Trump administration.而不是特朗普政府的橡皮图章
68That's Mike Rogers.这是迈克罗杰斯。
69Just wanna clarify there, Haley Stevens我只想澄清一下 海莉·史蒂文斯
70has been criticizing ads associated一直批评 相关广告
71and endorsing Abdul Sayed that he has said are not his ads,并认可阿卜杜勒·赛义德, 他说他不是他的广告,
72but she's still criticizing him for those.但她仍然在批评他
73Yeah, go ahead.说吧
74Right, and he had nothing to do with those ads.对 他和那些广告无关
75But Margaret, I was in Michigan last week,但玛格丽特,我上周在密歇根州
76and I gotta tell you, if you wanna look at ads in Michigan,我得告诉你 如果你想看看密歇根的广告
77I have never in my life seen such disgusting,我从来没有见过如此恶心,
78racist, fear-mongering ads种族主义、恐惧和恐吓广告
79as those that are taking place in Michigan right now.现在发生在密歇根州的那些
80他们打电话给Abdul El-Sayed, 他是一个医生,
81they're calling him a terrorist, a jihadist,他们称他为恐怖分子 圣战者
82really disgusting things, and the fact真的很恶心的事 还有事实
83that any Republican would stand behind those horrible ads任何共和党人都会支持那些可怕的广告
84is a disgrace.这是耻辱。
85Well, the rhetoric is extraordinary.嗯,这些言辞是非凡的。
86El-Sayed would be America's first sitting Muslim senatorEl -Sayed是美国首位现任穆斯林参议员
87if he pulls off a win here.如果他赢了的话
88He has been accused, though, of ties不过他被指控有关系
89to a Sunni Islamist group known as the Muslim Brotherhood.一个逊尼派的伊斯兰团体 被称为穆斯林兄弟会。
90He has distanced himself, he has disavowed it.他疏远自己,否认了这一点。
91But I wanna play for our viewers something.但我想为观众演奏一些东西
92Senator Cruz of Texas warned against El-Sayed德克萨斯州参议员克鲁斯警告El-Sayed
93being given any access to classified intelligence获得任何机密情报
94if he wins.如果他赢了。
95Listen.听着
96And if I am correct that he is a passionate supporter如果我是对的 他是一个热情的支持者
97of the Muslim Brotherhood, there is a very real risk对穆斯林兄弟会来说,这是非常真实的风险
98that Americans will die as a result.美国人会因此死亡
99Michigan does not need a senator密歇根州不需要参议员
100who's on the side of the terrorist.谁是恐怖分子的一方。
101This character, Abdul El-Sayed,这个角色,阿卜杜勒·赛义德,
102can be nowhere near Washington, D.C.离华盛顿州不远
103Do you think he understands that concept你觉得他理解这个概念吗?
104that our rights come from God Almighty,我们的权利来自全能的上帝,
105that Jesus came here for our salvation?耶稣来这里是为了救我们的吗?
106Senator, do you think that El-Sayed could actually govern参议员,你认为El -Sayed可以管理
107if his colleagues in the Senate are this vitriolic?如果他在参议院的同事是这个恶毒的?
108I mean, I just gotta say what Cruz and Trump and Vance我的意思是,我只是要说什么 克鲁斯,特朗普和万斯
109and others are saying is disgusting.其他人说这很恶心
110It really is.没错
111Again, I don't care if you disagree with Abdul.再说一遍 我不管你是否不同意阿卜杜勒
112He believes in Medicare for all.他相信全民医保
113He believes in taxing billionaires.他相信对亿万富翁征税.
114Fine, you disagree with him on that, that's fine.好吧,你不同意他 这一点,没关系。
115But that level of racism, overt, absolute racism,但这种程度的种族主义,公开的,绝对的种族主义,
116is frankly disgusting老实说,很恶心
117and should appall every decent American.并且应该震惊每一个正直的美国人。
118事实是 Abdul...
119is running an extraordinary campaign.正在进行一场非凡的运动。
120And I think what you're gonna see我想你会看到
121is a good victory in Michigan for it.在密歇根州是个很好的胜利
122People will rebel against that type of ugliness.人们会反抗这种丑恶
123I appreciate your clarity when it comes to racism.我感谢你在种族主义问题上的清晰度。
124I do wanna point out that some Americans我想指出一些美国人
125hear any criticism of sending aid to Israel听到有人批评向以色列提供援助
126and the words that the candidate has used以及候选人使用的词语
127as anti-Jewish hate,作为反犹太人的仇恨,
128and they believe that that's scapegoating as well.他们也认为那也是替罪羊
129How do you respond to that?你怎么回应的?
130Well, for me, it's a little bit personal.嗯,对我来说,这是有点私人。
131I am Jewish.我是犹太人。
132My father's family was wiped out by Hitler.我父亲的家人被希特勒消灭了
133Anti-Semitism is an extraordinarily disgusting反犹太主义是特别恶心的
134and dangerous ideology that has killed millions造成数百万人死亡的危险思想
135and millions of lives in the last century.上个世纪有数百万人的生命
136We cannot tolerate anti-Semitism, period.我们不能容忍反犹太主义。
137But the reality is that right now, in Israel,但现实是,现在,在以色列,
138you have a right-wing extremist government你有一个右翼的极端政府
139led by Netanyahu, who, in my view,由内塔尼亚胡领导,在我看来,
140and the view of many experts,和许多专家的看法,
141has in fact committed genocide曾犯下灭绝种族罪
142against the Palestinian people.巴勒斯坦人民遭受侵犯的问题
143To be critical of a racist,为了批评种族主义者
144extremist government in Israel以色列极端主义政府
145and to say that American taxpayers并说美国纳税人
146should not spend a nickel supporting that government不应该花一分钱支持政府
147is not anti-Semitism.不是反犹太主义。
148It is attacking a right-wing government.它正在攻击一个右翼政府。
149And I would say the same about any other government我对任何其他政府也会这么说
150on Earth does not reflect the nature地球上没有反映大自然
151of the religion of the people who are in that country.尊重该国人民的宗教。
152So I reject that.所以我拒绝
153You can criticize Netanyahu, and you're not anti-Semitic.你可以批评内塔尼亚胡,你不是反犹主义者.
154Got it.明白吗?
155I want to ask you about the next Congress.我想问你下届国会的事
156Senator Dan Sullivan told CNN today参议员丹·沙利文今天告诉CNN
157that he will accept the results他将接受结果,
158in the Alaska U.S. Senate race,在阿拉斯加美国参议院的比赛中
159the certification of which the Justice Department司法部的认证
160has said it may challenge.已经说它可能会挑战。
161But we're already hearing from Republican Senator但我们已经听到共和党参议员的消息了
162蒙大拿州的Tim Sheehy说有欺诈
163perpetrated against the people of Alaska,侵害阿拉斯加人民的罪行,
164and under no circumstances should Mary Peltola be seated绝对不能让玛丽·佩尔托拉坐下
165if she wins in a fraudulent manner.如果她以欺诈的方式获胜
166She argues, as you know, she has no knowledge她辩称,你知道, 她不知道
167of this Democratic effort to stack the ballot in Alaska在阿拉斯加堆积选票的民主努力
168and to hurt the incumbent, though an aide并伤害现任者,虽然一名助手
169told the New York Times that the candidate did indeed know.告诉纽约时报 候选人确实知道
170Bottom line, what do you expect the Senate to do if she wins,底线,你期望参议院怎么做 如果她赢了,
171and does all this mess really hurt the Democratic argument这些乱七八糟的事情真的伤害了民主党的论点
172that they have a moral high ground on election integrity?他们对于选举的诚信有道德上的崇高地位吗?
173Yeah, frankly, what the Democrats did in Alaska老实说,民主党在阿拉斯加的所作所为
174seems to me to be pretty dumb.在我看来很蠢
175But it goes, this is, it's not illegal.但它去,这是, 这不是违法的。
176It's what happens in every election.每次选举都是这样
177Right now, in Ohio, there is a gentleman who is running现在,在俄亥俄州,有个绅士在跑
178who is, as I understand it, don't know him,据我所知 他不认识他
179claiming to be a socialist, fine,自称是社会主义者,很好,
180and Republican Super PAC is putting money into his election.而共和党的超级人民委员会 正在为他的选举注资
181So why in Ohio is a Republican,所以为什么在俄亥俄州是共和党人
182a right-wing Super PAC funding a socialist?一个右翼的超级PAC资助一个社会主义者?
183The answer is obviously, obvious.答案显然是显而易见的。
184They want to take votes away from Sherrod Brown.他们想从雪罗德布朗手中夺走选票.
185Is this a good thing to do?这是好事吗?
186No, it is not a good thing to do, it's a stupid thing to do.不,这不是一件好事, 这是愚蠢的事情。
187Should there be an investigation?应该进行调查吗?
188What's going on in Alaska is ...在阿拉斯加发生的事是...
189Yeah, of Alaska?对,阿拉斯加?
190No, that's a decision the federal government不,这是联邦政府的决定
191does not get involved in state elections.不参与州选举。
192And you have a president who, in fact,你有一个总统,事实上,
193denied that he lost the election in 2020 against Biden.否认自己在2020年输掉了对拜登的选举.
194For him to be deciding what is a fair election让他决定什么是公平的选举
195and not is a little bit absurd.而不是有点荒谬。
196People of Alaska can make that decision themselves.阿拉斯加人民可以自己决定
197Senator Bernie Sanders,伯尼·桑德斯参议员
198thank you very much for your time today.非常感谢你今天抽空来
199Thank you.谢谢
200Tingo.丁果(原变种).
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