政治辩论：马里兰州州长韦斯·摩尔单挑20位不投票者 | 20
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
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| 0:02 | Ever it was drilled into us and this idea of like listen if you get one of my people | 每当它钻进我们 和这个想法 像听 如果你得到我的人 |
| 0:07 | I will send a battalion in to go get them if I have to we leave no one behind if you're one of my people | 我会派一个营去接他们 如果有必要的话 如果你是我的人 就不会留下任何人 |
| 0:12 | You are good and you are protected, right? | 你是好人,你受到保护,对不对? |
| 0:16 | Does not matter at all because the money does not flow to their pockets, but the pockets of the oligarch | 根本不重要,因为钱不是流入他们的口袋 而是寡头的口袋 |
| 0:21 | Do you know who does not want us to disengage the people who came before us? | 你知道谁不想让我们 脱离我们之前的人吗? |
| 0:24 | They want us to use our voice | 他们要我们用我们的声音 |
| 0:26 | They want us never to lose the power that they fought for | 他们希望我们永远不失去他们为之奋斗的力量 |
| 0:30 | Why should I be incentivized to vote if I know for a fact that nobody is going to live up to the expectations that they're going to change when nothing has? | 如果我知道没有人能实现当什么都没有发生时他们将会改变的期望,那么我为什么要被激励投票呢? |
| 0:38 | Do Americans still believe their vote has power or do some view that not voting is a form of protest? | 美国人是否仍然相信他们的投票有权力,还是有人认为不投票是一种抗议形式? |
| 0:44 | I'm John Regalato and from Jubilee Media this is Surrounded where one brave soul faces a room full of disagreeers | 我是约翰・雷加拉托,从禧年媒体 这是包围 在一个勇敢的灵魂 面对一个充满不同意见的房间 |
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| 1 | Ever it was drilled into us and this idea of like listen if you get one of my people | 每当它钻进我们 和这个想法 像听 如果你得到我的人 |
| 2 | I will send a battalion in to go get them if I have to we leave no one behind if you're one of my people | 我会派一个营去接他们 如果有必要的话 如果你是我的人 就不会留下任何人 |
| 3 | You are good and you are protected, right? | 你是好人,你受到保护,对不对? |
| 4 | Does not matter at all because the money does not flow to their pockets, but the pockets of the oligarch | 根本不重要,因为钱不是流入他们的口袋 而是寡头的口袋 |
| 5 | Do you know who does not want us to disengage the people who came before us? | 你知道谁不想让我们 脱离我们之前的人吗? |
| 6 | They want us to use our voice | 他们要我们用我们的声音 |
| 7 | They want us never to lose the power that they fought for | 他们希望我们永远不失去他们为之奋斗的力量 |
| 8 | Why should I be incentivized to vote if I know for a fact that nobody is going to live up to the expectations that they're going to change when nothing has? | 如果我知道没有人能实现当什么都没有发生时他们将会改变的期望,那么我为什么要被激励投票呢? |
| 9 | Do Americans still believe their vote has power or do some view that not voting is a form of protest? | 美国人是否仍然相信他们的投票有权力,还是有人认为不投票是一种抗议形式? |
| 10 | I'm John Regalato and from Jubilee Media this is Surrounded where one brave soul faces a room full of disagreeers | 我是约翰・雷加拉托,从禧年媒体 这是包围 在一个勇敢的灵魂 面对一个充满不同意见的房间 |
| 11 | Today we are exploring why many Americans choose not to vote and how voting shapes policy and why exercising the right to vote matters | 今天我们正在探索为什么许多美国人选择不投票,投票如何决定政策,为什么行使投票权很重要。 |
| 12 | I'm here with our featured guest Maryland Governor Wes Moore. | 我和我们的特邀嘉宾马里兰州长韦斯摩尔在一起 |
| 13 | Welcome to the show. | 欢迎光临节目 |
| 14 | Thanks a lot. | 非常感谢 |
| 15 | Appreciate you | 谢谢 |
| 16 | You ready to debate these non-voters? | 你准备好辩论这些没有投票权的人了吗? |
| 17 | Yes, sir. | 是 长官 |
| 18 | Non-voters you ready to debate the governor? | 你准备好辩论州长了吗? |
| 19 | All right, let's get into it. | 好吧,让我们开始吧。 |
| 20 | What's going on everybody. | 诸人何事. |
| 21 | My name is Wes Moore. | 我叫韦斯摩尔 |
| 22 | I'm the governor of Maryland | 我是马里兰州州长 |
| 23 | This is the first political office i've ever held and today i'm surrounded by 20 non-voters | 这是我第一次担任政治职务 今天我被20名无投票权的人包围 |
| 24 | My first surrounded claim is nothing shapes policy more effectively than your vote | 我的第一个被包围的主张 没有什么能比你的投票 更有效塑造政策了 |
| 25 | All right, if you want to debate this claim, please get to the chair in three two one | 好吧,如果你想辩论这个权利主张, 请在3 2 1 上主席位 |
| 26 | Hi, Wes. | 嗨,韦斯。 |
| 27 | How you doing? | 你好吗? |
| 28 | I'm Nassim. | 我是纳西姆 |
| 29 | Nice to meet you. | 幸会 |
| 30 | Nice to meet you man | 幸会 |
| 31 | Um, so I kind of want to hear first why you think nothing shapes policy more than your vote | 嗯,所以我有点想知道 首先,为什么你认为没有什么 塑造政策比你的投票更多 |
| 32 | Um, because i've seen it firsthand | 因为我亲眼见过 |
| 33 | Um, I have seen how everything is a policy decision in our life | 嗯,我已经看到了 如何一切是我们生活中的政策决定 |
| 34 | The water we drink is a policy decision the air we are breathing that is a policy decision | 我们喝的水是政策决定 我们呼吸的空气是政策决定 |
| 35 | The neighborhoods were policed and how we're policed that everything I have realized and learned is a policy decision | 邻居们被警察监视着 并且我们被警察监视着 我所意识到和学到的一切 都是一种政策决定 |
| 36 | And I think about for my own family like I don't come from a family that's used to making | 我为自己的家庭思考 就像我并不来自一个 习惯制造家庭 |
| 37 | The policies I come from a family that's used to suffering the consequences of them | 我的政策来自一个 习惯于承受后果的家庭 |
| 38 | And so I know the policies that are being made | 所以我知道 正在制定的政策 |
| 39 | Are being made in our name with our money with our tax dollars | 是用我们的钱和我们的税元 名义做的 |
| 40 | But oftentimes they do not reflect what we actually hope for and that's why I believe that | 但经常他们不反映 我们真正希望的 这就是为什么我相信 |
| 41 | We have a responsibility to make sure we have the right people in the right seats | 我们有责任确保我们有合适的人 在正确的座位上 |
| 42 | That are making the right decisions that are actually in on our behalf. | 这是代表我们作出的正确决定。 |
| 43 | So I want to point to | 所以我想说 |
| 44 | Historical example first the civil rights act of 1964 | 1964年《公民权利法》的历史实例 |
| 45 | And that was kind of come about from a movement rather than necessarily getting to the ballot box | 这有点来自一个运动 而不是得到 投票箱 |
| 46 | I'm not going to speak for everybody here | 我不会为这里的所有人说话的 |
| 47 | but I know for me I feel that it's more effective to mobilize in the streets or | 但我知道 我觉得在街上动员起来会更有效 |
| 48 | protest in the streets, um rather than sometimes going out to the ballot box where | 在街上抗议,嗯, 而不是有时去 投票箱在哪里 |
| 49 | I don't feel the candidates represent what i'm looking for | 我觉得候选人不能代表我要找的东西 |
| 50 | So I think there are other ways of participating in shaping policy | 所以我认为还有其他方法 参与制定政策 |
| 51 | Rather than just voting. | 不仅仅是投票 |
| 52 | No, and I think it's a very fair point | 不,我觉得这很公平 |
| 53 | But also I think it's also important to remember what was the goal of the civil rights movement, right? | 但我也觉得记住民权运动的目的也很重要,对吧? |
| 54 | The goal of the civil rights movement wasn't just a protest | 民权运动的目的不仅仅是抗议 |
| 55 | The goal of the civil rights movement was to get to a civil rights act | 民权运动的目标是制定民权法 |
| 56 | Like the reason that people protested the reason that people were in the streets wasn't just because they wanted to blow off steam | 就像人们抗议的原因 人们在街头的原因 不仅仅是因为他们想吹蒸汽 |
| 57 | Yeah was because they wanted the elected officials to hear their voice | 是因为他们想让当选的官员听到他们的声音 |
| 58 | And so we don't get things like the civil rights act we don't get the voting rights act | 所以,我们不得到的东西 像民权法案 我们得不到投票权法案 |
| 59 | We don't get not just the right to vote | 我们不只是有选举权 |
| 60 | But we don't get like things like the the desegregation of schools | 但是我们不像学校的隔离那样 |
| 61 | We don't get the elimination of policies like separate but separate but equal just by the protest alone | 我们无法消除政策,比如单独但单独,但平等 仅仅因为抗议 |
| 62 | What happened was it forced these politicians to do a better job of actually representing our views | 事情是这样的 迫使这些政客 做一个更好的工作 真正代表我们的观点 |
| 63 | And so that's why I think the protest does matter like our voice does matter | 所以我觉得抗议确实很重要 就像我们的声音一样重要 |
| 64 | But what the protest is actually helping to do it's helping these politicians to wake up | 但抗议实际上帮助了这些政客们醒来 |
| 65 | And realize that if you don't do what we are telling you to do we will remove you from office | 并意识到,如果你不做 我们叫你做的,我们会撤销你的职务 |
| 66 | So I hate to be that guy | 所以我讨厌成为那个家伙 |
| 67 | but the claim specifically says nothing shapes policy more and | 但索赔中只字未提什么 政策就更成型了 |
| 68 | I don't personally think that the civil rights act of 1964 would have happened without the movement | 我个人认为1964年的民权法案 没有运动就不会发生 |
| 69 | And that's why i'm arguing that the movement is what really like provoked that to even happen in the first place | 这就是为什么我争论说,运动是 真正喜欢激起,甚至发生在第一时间 |
| 70 | I guess my question is how can | 我想我的问题是如何 |
| 71 | how can we feel that candidates today are going to provoke this change and provoke the policies that we want without | 我们如何感到今天的候选人将挑起这种变化,并挑起我们希望的政策? |
| 72 | You know kind of protesting without giving them our vote in the first place | 你知道那种抗议 没有给他们我们的投票 首先 |
| 73 | Well, I think I think the protest is actually important, right? | 我觉得抗议很重要 对吧? |
| 74 | Because I think the protest is helping people to make sure they hear our voice | 因为我认为抗议会帮助人们确保听到我们的声音 |
| 75 | But then what also happens is what the protest then does it leads us and allows us | 但同样发生的事情是 抗议导致我们并允许我们 |
| 76 | For a greater opportunity to make sure that our voice is heard with the elected officials | 为了有更大的机会确保我们的声音能够听到当选官员的声音 |
| 77 | What was one of the goals of the civil rights movement, right? | 民权运动的目标是什么? |
| 78 | One of the biggest impacts of the civil rights movement was the voting rights act | 民权运动的最大影响之一是投票权法 |
| 79 | Right the voting rights act was the thing that actually gave people a fundamental and constitutional right to vote | 投票权法案是真正赋予人民 基本和宪法投票权的 |
| 80 | That we could have all the protests in the world | 我们可以拥有世界上所有的抗议 |
| 81 | But at the end of the day you still were telling me that I could not select my elected officials are going to be | 但最后你还是告诉我 我无法选出我当选的官员 |
| 82 | Yeah, and so the one of the goals of the civil rights movement to the civil rights movement to the civil rights movement | 对 所以民权运动的目标之一 民权运动的目标之一 |
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