安德伍德众议员与国土安全部部长的激烈交锋 | 2026.6.
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:02 | Secretary Mullen, I want to discuss FEMA's denial of disaster assistance for families | Mullen部长 我想谈谈FEMA拒绝为家庭提供救灾援助 |
| 0:05 | in Illinois. | 在伊利诺伊州 |
| 0:06 | You and I both come from communities that deal with tornadoes. | 你和我都是来自 处理龙卷风的社区。 |
| 0:09 | Just last week, northern Illinois was under a tornado watch as severe storms swept through | 就在上周,伊利诺伊州北部 被龙卷风监视着 暴风雨席卷了 |
| 0:13 | the region, downing trees, disrupting flights in and out of Chicago, and leaving thousands | 破坏进出芝加哥的航班 留下数千人 |
| 0:18 | without power. | 没有动力。 |
| 0:19 | And between August 16th and 19th of last year, severe thunderstorms, extreme rainfall, flooding | 去年8月16日至19日 暴风雨、暴雨、洪水 |
| 0:25 | and damaging winds impacted communities across northern Illinois. | 伊利诺伊州北部的群落受到破坏 |
| 0:29 | Homes were damaged. | 房屋受损. |
| 0:30 | Roads were flooded. | 道路被淹没. |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Secretary Mullen, I want to discuss FEMA's denial of disaster assistance for families | Mullen部长 我想谈谈FEMA拒绝为家庭提供救灾援助 |
| 2 | in Illinois. | 在伊利诺伊州 |
| 3 | You and I both come from communities that deal with tornadoes. | 你和我都是来自 处理龙卷风的社区。 |
| 4 | Just last week, northern Illinois was under a tornado watch as severe storms swept through | 就在上周,伊利诺伊州北部 被龙卷风监视着 暴风雨席卷了 |
| 5 | the region, downing trees, disrupting flights in and out of Chicago, and leaving thousands | 破坏进出芝加哥的航班 留下数千人 |
| 6 | without power. | 没有动力。 |
| 7 | And between August 16th and 19th of last year, severe thunderstorms, extreme rainfall, flooding | 去年8月16日至19日 暴风雨、暴雨、洪水 |
| 8 | and damaging winds impacted communities across northern Illinois. | 伊利诺伊州北部的群落受到破坏 |
| 9 | Homes were damaged. | 房屋受损. |
| 10 | Roads were flooded. | 道路被淹没. |
| 11 | Power lines were downed, and families suffered significant losses. | 输电线下降,家庭遭受重大损失。 |
| 12 | Illinois requested a major disaster declaration that included individual assistance, which | 伊利诺伊州要求发布一份包括个人援助在内的重大灾害宣言。 |
| 13 | helps affected families pay for home repairs, property losses, child care, temporary housing, | 帮助受影响家庭支付房屋修理、财产损失、儿童照料、临时住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住房、住 |
| 14 | moving assistance, moving expenses, and recovery costs. | 搬迁援助、搬迁费用和回收费用。 |
| 15 | FEMA denied Illinois's request in October. | FEMA在10月拒绝了伊利诺伊州的请求. |
| 16 | Illinois appealed in November. | 伊利诺伊州于11月提出上诉. |
| 17 | Then on February 7th, 2026, FEMA denied the appeal and reaffirmed its decision. | 后于2026年2月7日,FEMA驳回上诉,并重申其决定. |
| 18 | Unfortunately, Illinois is not alone. | 不幸的是,伊利诺伊州并不孤单. |
| 19 | Since President Trump took office, the number of disaster declarations approved has been | 特朗普总统上任后,获批的灾情申报数量为: |
| 20 | 30 percent lower than the historical average. | 比历史平均水平低30%. |
| 21 | And there's reason to be concerned that they're being politicized. | 而且有理由担心他们被政治化了. |
| 22 | An analysis from March of this year found that FEMA approved just 23 percent of disaster | 今年3月的一次分析发现 联邦紧急事务管理局只批准了23%的灾难 |
| 23 | requests from Democratic-led states compared to 89 percent from Republican-led states. | 民主党领导的各州的要求,而共和党领导的各州的要求为89%。 |
| 24 | Don't get me wrong. | 别误会 |
| 25 | Concerns about FEMA's response are coming from both sides of the aisle, including from | 对妇联回应的关切来自过道两侧,包括来自 |
| 26 | your former Republican colleagues in the Senate. | 你以前在参议院的共和党同事 |
| 27 | This should not be a partisan issue. | 这不应是一个党派问题。 |
| 28 | Americans expect timely disaster assistance decisions that follow the law, not politics. | 美国人期望及时做出遵循法律而非政治的救灾援助决定. |
| 29 | What makes this even harder to understand is that Republicans have provided DHS with | 更难理解的是 共和党人向DHS提供了 |
| 30 | tens of billions of dollars through reconciliation funding twice on top of annual appropriations. | 在年度拨款之外,通过两次调节资金提供数百亿美元。 |
| 31 | Your department has repeatedly stated that this funding could support operations for | 贵部门一再表示,这笔资金可以支持维和行动。 |
| 32 | years, yet families in my district were told there was no assistance or funds available | 然而,我所在地区的家庭被告知,没有援助或资金 |
| 33 | to help them recover. | 帮助他们康复。 |
| 34 | On top of that, this committee does not have a comprehensive spend plan explaining how | 此外,该委员会没有一项全面的开支计划来解释如何 |
| 35 | these funds are being used, despite my repeated requests over the last several months. | 尽管我在过去几个月里一再要求使用这些资金。 |
| 36 | Secretary Mullen, will you commit to a member-level meeting with my colleagues and I to discuss | Mullen国务卿,你愿意和我的同事举行成员级会议讨论吗? |
| 37 | why Illinois' disaster declaration was denied and to see how we can support my constituents? | 为什么伊利诺伊州的灾难声明被拒绝 以及看看我们如何能够支持我的选民? |
| 38 | Ma'am, we haven't denied anybody a meeting with us. | 女士,我们没有拒绝任何人和我们见面 |
| 39 | If you reach out, we'll meet with you just as long as you—I mean, and we'll do it | 如果你伸出手,我们会和你见面的,只要你... 我的意思是,我们会做到这一点。 |
| 40 | in a timely fashion, maybe not the next day, but we'll get to it as soon as possible. | 及时,也许不是第二天, 但我们会尽快得到它。 |
| 41 | But I do want to address, if you don't mind, what you talked about here on politicizing | 但是,如果你不介意的话,我想谈谈 你在这里所说的政治化 |
| 42 | it. | 这个 |
| 43 | I actually don't want to talk about politicizing it. | 我真的不想谈政治化 |
| 44 | I want to meet with you to discuss this and that. | 我想和你见面 讨论这个和那个。 |
| 45 | You made some accusations here about President Trump that's actually not accurate. | 你在这里对特朗普总统的指控其实并不准确. |
| 46 | If you're going to make accusations, though, you have to let us respond back to them. | 如果你要提出指控, 你必须让我们回击他们。 |
| 47 | Reclaiming my time, Mr. Chairman. | 恢复我的时间,主席先生。 |
| 48 | So you're lying about it then. | 所以你在撒谎 |
| 49 | Mr. Chairman. | 师曰. |
| 50 | Because you don't want to hear the truth. | 因为你不想听到真相 |
| 51 | Mr. Chairman, this week, President Trump's nominee— | 主席先生,本周,特朗普总统的提名... |
| 52 | Mr. Secretary, the record will reflect that you have agreed to meet with the lady and | 秘书先生,记录会反映你同意会见这位女士 |
| 53 | her folks, and since I'm trying to keep people in eight minutes, please proceed. | 她的家人, 既然我试图让人们在八分钟内, 请继续。 |
| 54 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 55 | This week, President Trump's nominee to head FEMA, Cameron Hamilton, appeared before | 本周,川普总统的提名 领导FEMA,卡梅隆汉密尔顿,之前出现 |
| 56 | the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee and pledged that FEMA would | 参议院国土安全和政府事务委员会,并保证联邦妇女权力当局将 |
| 57 | be fair and reasonable when evaluating requests for disaster aid. | 在评估救灾援助请求时要做到公平合理。 |
| 58 | Secretary Mullen, will you make the same commitment as Mr. Hamilton to evaluate disaster requests | 穆伦部长,你和汉密尔顿先生一样 承诺评估灾害请求 |
| 59 | fairly reasonably and without regard to politics? | 合理而不顾政治? |
| 60 | Yes or no? | 是还是不是? |
| 61 | It's interesting that you won't allow me to answer those questions. | 有趣的是 你不允许我回答这些问题 |
| 62 | I can explain it to you because I don't look at states different between blue or red. | 我可以跟你解释 因为我不看不同的状态 蓝色或红色。 |
| 63 | I look at them across the country as a whole. | 我从全国看他们 |
| 64 | If you actually want to know what we're doing, I'll be happy to, so you're not worried | 如果你真的想知道我们在做什么 我会很高兴的 所以你不用担心 |
| 65 | about this. | 关于这个。 |
| 66 | I don't look at this any different, ma'am, and I'm not here to argue with you. | 我不看这有什么不同 女士 我不是来跟你争论的 |
| 67 | I'm not here to fight with you. | 我不是来跟你打架的 |
| 68 | I like facts. | 我喜欢事实 |
| 69 | Great. | 不错 |
| 70 | Accusations doesn't help anybody. | 指控对任何人都没有帮助。 |
| 71 | I appreciate your commitment, and I will hold you to that commitment, and I hope that Illinois | 感谢你们的承诺 我希望伊利诺伊州 |
| 72 | receives the same fair consideration as any other state. | 得到与任何其他国家相同的公平考虑。 |
| 73 | Now I'd also like to address another deeply concerning matter, detainees who died while | 现在,我还想谈谈另一个很深层的问题, 被拘押者在死亡时 |
| 74 | in your custody. | 在你的监管。 |
| 75 | Secretary Mullen, since Donald Trump took office, DHS's immigration detention system | 国务卿穆伦,唐纳德·特朗普上任后 DHS的移民拘留制度 |
| 76 | has been plagued by medical neglect, abuse, overcrowding, and a historically high death | 医疗受到忽视、虐待、过度拥挤和死亡人数创历史新高 |
| 77 | rate. | 费率。 |
| 78 | I saw these dangerous conditions with my own eyes when I visited the Miami Correctional | 我亲眼目睹了这些危险的情况 当我去迈阿密监狱的时候 |
| 79 | Facility in Bunker Hill, Indiana, where I met with individuals who told me that it takes | 印第安纳邦克山的设施,我在那里会见了一些个人,他们告诉我,这需要 |
| 80 | months to receive medication refills, including for life-threatening illnesses like diabetes. | 几个月后接受补药,包括糖尿病等危及生命的疾病。 |
| 81 | Others reported being left unattended with infected boils and other serious conditions. | 还有一些国家报告说,由于受感染的锅炉和其他严重疾病而无人照料。 |
| 82 | So it's no surprise that a detainee at that facility died shortly after my visit, or that | 因此,毫不奇怪,一个被拘留者 在监狱里 死亡后不久,我访问, |
| 83 | more detainees died in ICE custody in 2025 than ever before. | 2025年被ICE关押的被拘留者死亡人数比以往任何时候都多。 |
| 84 | Secretary Mullen, does DHS have any official specific internal goals or policies to reduce | Mullen秘书,人口与健康部是否有任何官方具体的内部目标或政策来减少 |
| 85 | deaths in custody? | 拘留期间死亡? |
| 86 | Ma'am, your numbers just aren't accurate. | 女士,你的数字不准确 |
| 87 | We've had 0.009% of deaths, and we've had 54 total in the President's time. | 我们的死亡人数为0.09%,在总统的时间内总共有54人. |
| 88 | Those are dangerous accusations you're making. | 这些是你提出的危险指控 |
| 89 | Those are dangerous accusations that she's making, because instead of Illinois, they're | 这些是她提出的危险指控 因为与其说是伊利诺伊州 |
| 90 | They're twice as high to die in the state penitentiary of Illinois than they are in | 他们死在伊利诺伊州监狱的比他们高两倍 |
| 91 | detention centers. | 拘留中心。 |
| 92 | You are invited to this committee. | 你被邀请参加这个委员会。 |
| 93 | This is my time. | 这是我的时间。 |
| 94 | You are a guest. | 你是一个客人。 |
| 95 | And you need to be informed by what you're saying. | 且须知言. |
| 96 | I am informed. | 我被告知了。 |
| 97 | No, you're not, ma'am. | 不,你没有,夫人。 |
| 98 | Mr. Secretary, does DHS have any official specific internal goals or policies? | 秘书先生,人口与健康部是否有任何官方具体的内部目标或政策? |
| 99 | Do you realize that we have one doctor per 1,000 for detention centers, and for our federal | 你知不知道我们每千人有一位医生 在拘留中心和联邦监狱 |
| 100 | detention centers in the state of Illinois, they have one per 1,800, but yet she wants | 伊利诺伊州的拘留中心 每1800人就有一个 但是她想要 |
| 101 | to focus on our detention centers? | 专注于我们的拘留中心? |
| 102 | I understand that. | 这我知道 |
| 103 | You'll get your time. | 你会得到你的时间。 |
| 104 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 105 | You're welcome. | 不用谢 |
| 106 | So I guess this is a good place to stop. | 所以我想这是个好地方 停下来。 |
| 107 | We are trying to keep members to eight minutes. | 我们正努力使成员保持8分钟。 |
| 108 | Mr. Secretary, you know that, too. | 部长先生 你也知道的 |
| 109 | That's fine. | 没关系 |
| 110 | So we all know how the clock runs here. | 所以,我们都知道 钟如何运行在这里。 |
| 111 | The idea is to get together to forward questions, and I'm going to have you repeat your question | 想法是一起提出问题,我要你重复你的问题 |
| 112 | when we start up again. | 当我们重新开始。 |
| 113 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 114 | But I can tell you this. | 但我可以告诉你这一点。 |
| 115 | If this format won't work, then we'll reschedule the meeting for later when we can keep it | 如果这种形式行不通的话,我们改期会议,待我们保留后再说 |
| 116 | to all the issues accordingly. | 因此,所有问题都应如此。 |
| 117 | So this is the efficient way to do it, but if we can't do it the efficient way, then | 所以这是有效的方法, 但是如果我们不能做到这一点, |
| 118 | we'll go to Plan B, which will not be today. | 我们会去B计划, 今天不是。 |
| 119 | And I don't mean that as a threat to anybody. | 我不是说这是对任何人的威胁 |
| 120 | I'm just saying this is not Meet the Press or Fox News or whatever for anybody involved. | 我只是说这不是《新闻报》或《福克斯新闻》 或任何与此事有关的东西 |
| 121 | It's what's the question, what's the answer. | 是故问是何答. |
| 122 | Mr. Secretary, if you need more time to respond to that, the committee will make any of your | 部长先生,如果你需要更多的时间 来对此作出回应,委员会将使你的任何 |
| 123 | comments part of the record, and we will endeavor to make sure that you get to meet | 评论部分记录,我们将努力确保你得到见面 |
| 124 | with whoever wants more time. | 与谁想要更多的时间。 |
| 125 | But while we've got the whole committee sitting here, we're not going to do the X, Y, Z debate, | 但是,当我们让整个委员会坐在这里, 我们不打算做X,Y,Z辩论, |
| 126 | whatever the heck. | 不管他妈的。 |
| 127 | So ma'am, please repeat your question, and as near as I can figure, you got about four | 所以,夫人,请重复你的问题, 正如我所想,你得到大约四 |
| 128 | minutes left. | 还有几分钟 |
| 129 | Thank you, Mr. Chairman. | 谢谢你,主席先生。 |
| 130 | You're welcome. | 不用谢 |
| 131 | Secretary Mullen, does DHS have any specific internal document, policies, or goals to | Mullen秘书,人口与健康部是否有具体的内部文件、政策或目标。 |
| 132 | reduce death in custody? | 减少监禁期间的死亡? |
| 133 | And we do a wonderful job on providing medical to, we're doing a wonderful job at it. | 我们做了一个很好的工作 提供医疗, 我们正在做一个很好的工作。 |
| 134 | We have 0.009% of deaths in our prison, which is a lot better than the state of Illinois. | 我们有0.09%的死亡 在我们的监狱, 这比伊利诺伊州好多了。 |
| 135 | Is it your testimony that you do not know whether or not the department that you lead | 是你的证词,你不知道 你领导的部门是否 |
| 136 | has a policy to reduce deaths in custody? | 是否有减少拘留期间死亡的政策? |
| 137 | No, I did not say that, ma'am. | 不,我没有说,夫人。 |
| 138 | You didn't answer my question. | 你没回答我的问题 |
| 139 | Yes, I did. | 没错 |
| 140 | You're making accusations, and you're not even looking at your own state. | 你正在提出指控,你甚至没有看你自己的国家。 |
| 141 | You have no policy or plan to reduce deaths in custody. | 你没有减少拘留期间死亡的政策或计划。 |
| 142 | That's not true. | 这不是真的。 |
| 143 | 两个月前 我问过ICE导演Todd Lines的问题 | |
| 144 | Our medical staff does a phenomenal job. | 我们的医护人员的工作非常出色。 |
| 145 | In fact, every detainee sees a doctor or a nurse with every two weeks. | 事实上,每个被拘留者每两周见一名医生或护士。 |
| 146 | I reclaim my time. | 我收回我的时间。 |
| 147 | May I ask your next question? | 我能问你下一个问题吗? |
| 148 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 149 | 两个月前 我问过ICE导演Todd Lines的问题 | |
| 150 | He said that ICE, quote, hopes that there will be no deaths in custody, but admitted | 他说,引用ICE的话,希望不会在拘留期间死亡,但承认 |
| 151 | that the agency had no actual policy in place to prevent them. | 该机构没有制定实际的政策来防止它们。 |
| 152 | Rather than implement one, he resigned just a few hours later. | 他没有执行,而是在几个小时后辞职。 |
| 153 | Secretary, since that hearing, three more people have died in ICE's custody, and those | 书记,自那次听证会以来, 又有3人死于ICE的关押之中, 而那些 |
| 154 | are the only deaths that we know about based on your agency's public reporting. | 根据你的机构公开报道 我们所知的唯一死亡 |
| 155 | So, Mr. Chairman, I would like to request unanimous consent to enter into the record | 因此,主席先生,我请求一致同意记录在案。 |
| 156 | a report that came out today from Human Rights Watch and Physicians for Human Rights titled | 人权观察和医生促进人权协会今天发表的报告 |
| 157 | Dying in Detention, Rising Deaths in an Expanding U.S. Immigration Detention System. | 在拘留中死亡,在美国移民拘留制度扩大中死亡上升。 |
| 158 | Drawing on… | 从... |
| 159 | I'm sorry. | 对不起 |
| 160 | Without objection, so ordered. | 没有人反对,所以命令。 |
| 161 | Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman. | 非常感谢主席先生。 |
| 162 | Drawing on government records, detention data, and expert medical reviews, this report outlines | 根据政府记录、拘留数据和专家医疗审查,本报告概述 |
| 163 | 52 deaths in ICE custody during President Trump's second term and highlights the concerns | 特朗普总统第二任期间, |
| 164 | we've been raising to your department regarding the lack of access to medical care, suicide | 我们一直在向你们部门汇报 缺乏医疗,自杀 |
| 165 | prevention, transparency, and accountability in detention facilities. | 拘留设施中的预防、透明度和问责制。 |
| 166 | Secretary Mullen, ICE's detainee death reporting has not been updated since April 28th of 2026. | 部长穆伦,ICE的被拘留者死亡报告自2026年4月28日起一直没有更新. |
| 167 | The death rate in ICE custody has doubled during President Trump's second term. | 在特朗普总统的第二个任期内,ICE拘押中的死亡率翻了一番. |
| 168 | Will you commit to reporting detainee deaths as required by law? | 你会承诺按照法律规定报告被拘留者的死亡情况吗? |
| 169 | We do report them, ma'am. | 我们确实要报告,夫人 |
| 170 | No one… | 没有人... |
| 171 | So is it your testimony, then, that there is no… | 你的证词是没有... |
| 172 | What you're talking about is what Congress has asked us to do, which we're not required | 你说的就是国会要求我们做的 我们不需要做的 |
| 173 | to do, is report the deaths after they're released. | 报告出狱后的死亡情况 |
| 174 | That doesn't make any sense. | 这根本说不通 |
| 175 | They're not under our watch at that point. | 他们不在我们的监视之下 |
| 176 | Mr. Secretary, is it your testimony that there have been no deaths since April 28th? | 部长先生 您的证词是 四月二十八日以后没有死亡吗 |
| 177 | I didn't say that. | 我没这么说 |
| 178 | So are you going to commit to complying with the required reporting requirement? | 那你打算承诺遵守所要求的报告要求吗? |
| 179 | We were shut down for 115 days underneath the department. | 我们被关闭了115天 在部门下面。 |
| 180 | So I don't know what… | 所以,我不知道怎样... |
| 181 | We just now reopened. | 我们刚刚重新开放。 |
| 182 | So I don't know what reports you want us to do and you're not willing to fund us. | 所以我不知道你要我们做什么报告 你不愿意资助我们 |
| 183 | You want the reports, but you don't want to fund us? | 你想要报告 但你不想资助我们? |
| 184 | That makes no sense. | 这没有道理。 |
| 185 | The secretary is belligerent here and has been taking up my time. | 秘书在这里好战,一直在占用我的时间。 |
| 186 | What's your next question? | 你下一个问题是什么? |
| 187 | My next comment is that the ICE director… | 我接下来的评论是,ICE导演... |
| 188 | There's no questions. | 无问. |
| 189 | It's just comments. | 这只是评论。 |
| 190 | No, I had a question. | 不,我有个问题 |
| 191 | He didn't answer my question. | 他没有回答我的问题。 |
| 192 | And so… | 所以说... |
| 193 | So the record will reflect that. | 因此,记录将反映这一点。 |
| 194 | What's your next question? | 你下一个问题是什么? |
| 195 | Yes, sir. | 是 长官 |
| 196 | There is a policy of reviewing and publicly reporting deaths that occur within 30 days | 有一项政策是审查和公开报告30天内发生的死亡事件。 |
| 197 | of a detainee's release from custody. | 释放被拘留者。 |
| 198 | And that policy existed to prevent ICE from avoiding accountability by releasing seriously | 这项政策的存在是为了防止ICE通过认真释放来逃避责任。 |
| 199 | ill people shortly before they die. | 病人临死前不久 |
| 200 | And as a nurse, I find this deeply troubling change in their reporting posture. | 作为一名护士,我发现他们的报告姿态发生了令人深感不安的变化。 |
| 201 | Families deserve answers and Congress should be able to conduct oversight and the American | 家庭应该得到答案 国会应该能够进行监督 美国 |
| 202 | people should have confidence that deaths connected to federal detention are not being | 人们应该相信 与联邦拘留有关的死亡不是 |
| 203 | hidden through administrative loopholes or filibustering. | 通过行政漏洞或微缩隐藏. |
| 204 | Transparency is not optional. | 透明度不是可选的。 |
| 205 | There are laws and reporting requirements and if this administration is unwilling to | 有法律和报告要求,如果政府不愿意 |
| 206 | account for what happens to people in its custody, then it's Congress' role to question | 说明被囚禁的人的遭遇 然后是国会的职责 |
| 207 | whether it deserves more authority, more detention capacity, or any additional sent from the | 是否应当有更大的权力、更多的拘留能力,或者是否应当从缔约国发出任何额外通知。 |
| 208 | American people. | 美国人民。 |
| 209 | Mr. Chairman, thank you for letting me finish my comments and I yield back. | 主席先生,感谢你让我完成我的评论,我屈服了。 |
| 210 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 211 | You have been much more timely than a couple of your predecessors on either side of the | 你比前辈们更及时 |
| 212 | island. | 岛。 |
| 213 | And I appreciate that. | 我很感激这一点。 |
| 214 | Tinko! | 叮当! |
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