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佐治亚州参议院柯林斯对阵奥索夫第二场辩论 | 2026.10

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0:19Hello, I'm Donna Lowry, host of Lawmakers on Georgia Public Broadcasting.你好 我是Donna Lowry 乔治亚州公共广播的制片人
0:24Welcome to the Atlanta Press Club, Loudermilk Young Debate Series from the studios of Georgia欢迎来到亚特兰大新闻俱乐部 来自佐治亚州的Loudermilk Young辩论系列
0:30Public Broadcasting.公共广播.
0:32The 2026 debate series was made possible by grants to the Atlanta Press Club from the2026年辩论系列之所以能够举行,是因为来自
0:38Arthur M. Blank Family Foundation and the Robert Charles Loudermilk Senior Foundation.阿瑟·M·布兰克家庭基金会和罗伯特·查尔斯·卢德米尔克高级基金会.
0:44This is the debate for candidates running for U.S. Senate.这是竞选美国参议院候选人的辩论.
0:48We have two journalists who will question the candidates.我们有两个记者要问候选人
0:51Greg Blustein is the chief political reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.格雷格·布卢斯坦是"亚特兰大日报-宪法"首席政治记者.
0:57Faith Jesse is a news anchor and reporter at 11 Alive in Atlanta.费丝·杰西是一名新闻主播和记者,在亚特兰大11号生活.
1:02I'm going to kick off today's debate asking each of the candidates to introduce themselves今天的辩论要请每位候选人自我介绍
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1Hello, I'm Donna Lowry, host of Lawmakers on Georgia Public Broadcasting.你好 我是Donna Lowry 乔治亚州公共广播的制片人
2Welcome to the Atlanta Press Club, Loudermilk Young Debate Series from the studios of Georgia欢迎来到亚特兰大新闻俱乐部 来自佐治亚州的Loudermilk Young辩论系列
3Public Broadcasting.公共广播.
4The 2026 debate series was made possible by grants to the Atlanta Press Club from the2026年辩论系列之所以能够举行,是因为来自
5Arthur M. Blank Family Foundation and the Robert Charles Loudermilk Senior Foundation.阿瑟·M·布兰克家庭基金会和罗伯特·查尔斯·卢德米尔克高级基金会.
6This is the debate for candidates running for U.S. Senate.这是竞选美国参议院候选人的辩论.
7We have two journalists who will question the candidates.我们有两个记者要问候选人
8Greg Blustein is the chief political reporter for the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.格雷格·布卢斯坦是"亚特兰大日报-宪法"首席政治记者.
9Faith Jesse is a news anchor and reporter at 11 Alive in Atlanta.费丝·杰西是一名新闻主播和记者,在亚特兰大11号生活.
10I'm going to kick off today's debate asking each of the candidates to introduce themselves今天的辩论要请每位候选人自我介绍
11and tell viewers why they should be the next U.S.告诉观众为什么他们应该成为下一个美国。
12Senator from Georgia.佐治亚州参议员
13Candidates will have 60 seconds to introduce themselves.候选人将有60秒自我介绍.
14We will go in alphabetical order, starting with Representative Mike Collins.我们按字母顺序走 从麦克柯林斯代表开始
15Good evening.边
16This is a race between Georgia and Georgetown, somebody that has created jobs and opportunities乔治亚州和乔治城之间的比赛 创造了工作和机会
17right here in Georgia on this red clay versus a globe-trotting trust fund kid who got to就在佐治亚州这个红色的粘土上 和一个举世瞩目的信托基金小子
18the Senate and then at every turn has voted to make our life less safe, more expensive,参议院,然后在每一个转弯 投票使我们的生活 更加安全,更昂贵,
19and worse off.更糟糕的是,我们没有
20I mean, behind his highly skilled, scripted online clips is a coward, a coward who lies我的意思是,在他的高技能,脚本 在线剪辑后是一个懦夫, 一个懦夫谁说谎
21about his accomplishments and views his success not as what he does for Georgia, but the number关于他的成就,认为他的成功不象他为格鲁吉亚所做的那样,而是数字
22of clicks that he gets on social media and the praises that he gets from his radical以及他从激进派得到的赞誉
23friends.朋友们
24You see, while John Ossoff spent his time raising our taxes and putting men in women's你看,约翰·奥索夫花时间 提高我们的税收 并让男人在女人。
25centers and leaving the borders wide open, I went to work for you, passing two bills我为你们工作,通过了两个法案
26signed by two presidents, two different parties improving the lives of Georgians.由两位总统签署 两个不同的政党 改善格鲁吉亚人的生活。
27But John Ossoff, he raised our taxes.但是约翰·奥索夫 他提高了我们的税收
28We need a U.S.我们需要一个美国。
29Senator who represents Hollywood, Georgia, not Hollywood, California.代表格鲁吉亚好莱坞的参议员 不是加利福尼亚州好莱坞
30Thank you very much.谢谢
31Senator John Ossoff, you may introduce yourself.约翰·奥索夫参议员 你可以自我介绍一下
32Well, Donna, thank you so much for moderating and thank you to the Press Club for hosting唐娜,谢谢你的调和 感谢新闻社的主持
33us, Congressman.我们,议员。
34It's good to see you again.又复欢喜.
35You all know that I believe in asking tough questions, whether it's of the Postmaster你们都知道,我相信 问难的问题,是不是邮局的
36General when the mail is late in Georgia or of those defense contractors up at Fort Gordon当邮件在佐治亚州或戈登堡的防御承包商晚点时将军
37who are abusing Georgia military families or of a Secretary of Defense when he lies虐待格鲁吉亚军事家庭的人或撒谎的国防部长的人
38us into war.我们进入战争。
39And tonight we're going to continue asking tough questions of Congressman Mike Collins.今晚我们要继续问麦克柯林斯议员的难题
40We're going to pick up right where we left off last week and ask him questions he refused我们上个星期离开的地方去接他 问他他拒绝的问题
41to answer.来回答
42Why he voted for the tariffs and the war and the health care cuts that have driven prices为什么他投票 关税,战争和医疗削减 驱动价格
43to record highs.以记录最高。
44Why he won't commit to testifying in the ongoing federal probe of his office.为什么他不会承诺 在他的办公室进行中的联邦调查中作证
45And we'll ask him again to explain his widely documented and completely disqualifying ties我们再请他解释一下他 被广泛记录的和完全取消资格的联系
46to white nationalism and neo-Nazi ideology.给白人民族主义和新纳粹意识形态。
47We'll see tonight if the Congressman has the courage to respond.我们今晚再看看 如果议员有勇气回应
48Thank you very much.谢谢
49完整的辩论规则请访问 atlantapressclub.org.
50Our panel will now ask a question to an individual candidate.我们的小组现在将向一名候选人提问。
51And we'll start with Greg Blustein who will ask a question for John Ossoff.我们先从格雷格·布卢斯坦开始 他将向约翰·奥索夫提问
52And once again, you have 60 seconds for your answer.再说一次,你还有60秒的时间回答
53Senator Ossoff, you've repeatedly said you won't run for president in 2028, but your奥索夫参议员,你已经多次说过 你不会在2028年竞选总统, 但你的
54name continues to surface as a potential contender.名称继续以潜在竞争者的身份出现。
55So will you pledge right now tonight to serve your full six-year term if you win?那么,如果你赢了,你今晚会保证 完成你满六年的任期吗?
56Yes, I will.是的,我会的。
57I have zero interest in running for president.我对竞选总统没有兴趣
58I'm not running for president.我不会竞选总统的
59I'm running for re-election to the Senate.我竞选连任参议院议员.
60And tonight, the contrast could not be clearer between these two Senate candidates.而今晚,这两个参议院候选人之间的对比无法更明确.
61So let's hear from Congressman Mike Collins, who told us last week, you'll recall if you迈克·柯林斯议员上周告诉我们了 如果你记得
62watching, that these tariffs were quote, making things fair, just exactly what he meant看,这些关税被引用, 使事情公平, 正是他的意思
63by that.由这个。
64Folks are going to the grocery store.人们要去杂货店
65They're paying more than ever to stock their fridge.他们花的钱比任何时候都多 储存冰箱。
66Ground beef is up 30% since Donald Trump took office.唐纳德·特朗普上任后地面牛肉上升30%.
67Coffee is up 30% since Donald Trump took office.唐纳德·特朗普上任后咖啡涨30%.
68Those were your votes, Mike, tariffs you supported.这是你的选票,迈克,你支持的关税。
69Last week, you said the tariffs were making things fair.上周,你说关税 使事情公平。
70And I think that you should explain to Georgia voters why you voted for the tariffs and what我认为你应该向格鲁吉亚选民解释 为什么投票 关税和什么
71you mean by that.你是这么说的
72Would you like a rebuttal?你想反驳一下吗?
73Yeah, you know, tough questions are going to come out tonight.是啊,你知道,很难的问题 今晚会出来。
74No one's ever challenged though, John Ossoff, on anything he's ever voted on.John Ossoff, 没有人质疑过他投过什么票
75So what we're going to do tonight is we're going to go through John Ossoff's record.因此,我们今晚要做的就是通过约翰·奥索夫的记录.
76We're going to make sure that you understand exactly what he's been doing while he's been我们会确保你明白 他一直在做什么
77in Congress, because I'm like Bluestein, he is running for president.在国会,因为我像蓝斯坦, 他竞选总统。
78He's going to be your DSA candidate.他将成为你的DSA候选人。
79We're going to start out though with making things left safe because John Ossoff is out我们要从安全开始 因为约翰·奥索夫不在
80there talking about protecting children, protecting them out there.说到保护儿童, 保护他们在那里。
81But we're going to get to that in just a second.但是我们马上就能搞定了
82Thank you very much.谢谢
83We were out of time on that.我们没有时间了
84We want to go to another question.我们想问另一个问题。
85We want to get as many questions in as possible.我们想得到尽可能多的问题。
86Faith, Jesse, please ask your question of Mike Collins.费丝 杰西 请问你关于麦克柯林斯的问题
87Thank you, Donna.谢谢你,唐娜。
88Representative Collins, the military now reporting that 21 U.S. service members have been killed科林斯议员,军方现在报告 有21名美国军人被杀
89since the war in Iran has begun.自从伊朗战争开始以来
90If the president requests American ground troops in Iran, will you support that deployment,如果总统要求美国驻伊朗地面部队 你会支持部署吗?
91even if it means more American casualties?即使这意味着更多的美国伤亡?
92Thank you for the question, Faith.谢谢你的问话 费丝
93You know, Iran, we have been at war with this Islamic terrorist regime for over 47 years.你知道,伊朗,我们与这个伊斯兰恐怖主义政权交战了47年。
94They've been killing Americans ever since.从那以后他们就一直在屠杀美国人
95And they were this close to getting a nuclear weapon.他们差一点就得到了核武器。
96And thank goodness we had the leadership to send people over there to take care of those谢天谢地,我们领导派人去照顾那些
97nuclear weapons that they were trying to create.他们试图制造的核武器。
98Now, we need to make sure that they don't have a bomb because my opponent and the Democrats,现在,我们需要确保 他们没有炸弹 因为我的对手和民主党,
99all they're interested in is sending more money to Iran.他们感兴趣的只是给伊朗寄更多钱
100Send over cash, over $1.3 billion in cash.寄出现金,超过13亿美元的现金.
101But John Ossoff, we want to understand about the border down there.但是约翰·奥索夫 我们要了解下面的边界
102Why you, you went out there saying you were protecting children and the whole time you为什么,你出去说 你是在保护儿童,你一直
103would not shut that border down when children were being trafficked across that border for当儿童被贩卖到边境时,不会关闭边界。
104heinous reasons, for who knows what that they were doing to those kids.令人发指的原因 谁知道他们对孩子们做了什么
105And you had the opportunity to shut that border down and stop that child trafficking.你有机会关闭边境 阻止贩卖儿童
106But you wouldn't.但你不会的
107Thank you.谢谢
108You have 30 seconds for a rebuttal, John Ossoff.你有30秒的反驳时间 约翰·奥索夫
109Thank you, Donna.谢谢你,唐娜。
110Well, the question was about the war in Iran, 21 Americans dead, a global energy crisis.问题是伊朗的战争,21个美国人死了 全球能源危机。
111You see, what we have right here is the Washington establishment.你看,我们这里有 华盛顿的机构。
112Congress is full of congressmen's sons who are only in Congress because their daddies国会里全是议员的儿子 因为是他们的爸爸
113were congressmen, just like Mike Collins, who are perfectly happy to send other people's他们是国会议员 就像迈克·柯林斯 他们很乐意送别人的
114children to die in war.孩子们死于战争
115How is this war a success, Mike?这场战争怎么会成功,迈克?
116Why don't you respond?你为什么不回应?
117You have 30 seconds for a respond, Mike Collins.麦克柯林斯,你有30秒的回答
118You know, the only thing my parents gave me was the opportunity to go to work.我父母给我的唯一机会就是去上班
119John Ossoff, the only thing he knows about work is working the ATM machine, getting hisJohn Ossoff 他唯一知道的就是 使用自动取款机
120granddaddy's money out of it.爷爷的钱从它。
121Now, we're in Iran to make sure they don't get a nuclear bomb and destroy America because现在,我们是在伊朗 确保他们不会得到核弹 并摧毁美国,因为
122that's what they want to do.这就是他们想做的。
123And I've got kids and grandkids and we want to make sure that they have a future.我有孩子和孙子 我们想确保他们有未来
124And we have leadership.我们有领导权。
125We finally have leadership that understands that and is making sure that we put America我们终于有领导才能理解这一点 并且确保我们把美国
126first and we do it through peace, through strength.首先,我们通过和平,通过力量来做到这一点。
127Thank you.谢谢
128We're going to have to go to another question.得再问.
129I'm sorry.对不起
130Faith, Jesse, your question for John Ossoff.费丝 杰西 你问约翰·奥索夫的问题
131Senator Ossoff, you voted for the Lake and Riley Act, which mandates detention for certain奥索夫参议员,你投票支持 湖和莱利法案, 授权拘留某些
132immigrants accused of crimes, even without a conviction.移民被指控犯罪,即使没有定罪。
133Do you stand by that vote knowing that some may never be found guilty?你知道有些人永远不会被判有罪吗?
134Faith, thank you for the question.费丝 谢谢你的问候
135Here's the bottom line about that law.这是关于法律的底线。
136It is right that immigration enforcement should focus on those who are convicted of or wanted移民执法应侧重于那些被判有罪或被通缉的人。
137for crimes.犯罪时
138If you're in the United States illegally and you commit a crime, you've got to leave.如果你非法进入美国 并且犯罪, 你必须离开。
139It is also right that provisions of that law were overbroad and we need to address that.该法律的规定过于宽泛也是对的,我们需要解决这一问题。
140But look at what Mike Collins and Donald Trump have been doing.但看看迈克·柯林斯和唐纳德·特朗普一直在做什么.
141They've been rounding up people with no criminal history.他们抓捕了没有犯罪史的人
142With no criminal record.没有犯罪记录
143They've been separating children from their parents.他们把孩子和父母分开了
144They've unleashed masked federal agents on the streets of our cities who have killed他们派了蒙面的联邦特工到我们城市的街道上 杀了他们
145American citizens with impunity.美国公民逍遥法外。
146Mike Collins called for killing immigrants by throwing them to their deaths out of helicopters.迈克·柯林斯呼吁用直升机将他们扔到死来杀害移民.
147I'd like to hear if Mike Collins stands by that statement.我想听听迈克·柯林斯是否支持这一说法.
148Do you still believe in the extrajudicial killing of immigrants?你还相信法外杀害移民吗?
149You have 30 seconds.你有30秒钟。
150Yes, ma'am.是,长官
151The Lake and Riley Act has been responsible for removing over 20,000 illegal criminals《湖和莱利法》规定要清除两万多名非法罪犯
152from our streets, making this country safer.从我们的街道, 使这个国家更安全。
153Well, let's get back to that border because John Ossoff's been out there running ads protecting好了,让我们回到边境上 因为约翰·奥索夫一直在那里 运行广告保护
154Jeffrey Epstein的一位朋友 Reed Hoffman为孩子付了钱 他曾经拜访过
155Epstein Island and is also a leading million dollar super PAC that's supporting his legislation,爱泼斯坦岛 也是支持他立法的百万巨头
156supporting his campaign.支持他的竞选。
157John Ossoff, I'll give you time for a rebuttal.约翰·奥索夫 我给你时间进行反驳
158Mike, you want to raise the Epstein files?迈克,你想提高爱泼斯坦的文件?
159You voted to cover up the Epstein files.你投票掩盖爱泼斯坦的文件
160I want folks across the state to know this.我要全州的人都知道这一点。
161When we took those votes, we knew that 14 and 15 year old girls had been raped and trafficked当我们投票时,我们知道 14岁和15岁的女孩被强奸和贩卖
162by Jeffrey Epstein and his accomplices.杰弗里・爱泼斯坦和他的帮凶
163He wouldn't vote to release those files until Donald Trump gave him permission.在唐纳德·特朗普允许之前,他不会投票释放这些文件.
164Have you ever spoken to those victims?你和那些受害者谈过吗?
165Do you have tonight a message to Jeffrey Epstein's victims after you voted to cover你今晚有消息给杰弗里・爱泼斯坦的受害者吗?
166up that evidence, Mike?证据,迈克?
167Mike Collins, 30 seconds.麦克柯林斯,30秒
168I voted to release those files, but here's the hypocrisy in this thing.我投票决定公布那些文件, 但这是这里面的伪善。
169John Ossoff, his number one donor, one of his largest donors is Reed Hoffman, the sameJohn Ossoff, 他的头号捐赠者, 他最大的捐赠者之一 是里德・霍夫曼,同样的
170guy that sent the Epstein files, the same guy that sent ice cream, ice cream, to Jeffrey送爱泼斯坦文件的人 送冰激凌给杰弗里的人
171Epstein on his birthday and said, this is for the girls.Epstein在生日时说 这是给女孩们的
172John, the calls coming from inside the house, Epstein class that you're talking about.约翰,家里的电话,爱泼斯坦课
173I'm looking at him right now.我现在看着他
174Unfortunately, we're going to have to move on.不幸的是,我们必须继续前进。
175Greg, please ask your question of Mike Collins.格雷格,请问你的问题 迈克柯林斯。
176Congressman Collins, you've said as recently as June that President Trump, quote, won the柯林斯议员,你最近说过 特朗普总统,引用,赢得了
1772020 election.2020年选举.
178Do you still believe that Trump defeated Joe Biden in 2020?你还相信特朗普在2020年击败乔·拜登吗?.
179Yeah, you know, Joe Biden went into office and, boy, Georgians paid for it.Joe Biden上任后 乔治亚人付了钱
180Look at what happened during the Biden years.看看拜登时代发生了什么
181Look at what happened with John Ossoff voting for that Bidenomics mess that caused historic看看约翰·奥索夫投票给 引起历史的拜登漫画大乱
182inflation.通货膨胀。
183That's what caused your prices to go up, people.所以你们的价格才会上涨
184That's what caused all of your housing, your food, your clothing, your cars, you name it.这就是你所有的房子,你的食物,你的衣服,你的车,你叫它。
185Whatever you buy went up because of John Ossoff and the Democrats with that Bidenomics debacle无论你买什么 都因为约翰·奥索夫和民主党 白登组学的失败
186and then to put on top of that the Green New Deal.然后把绿色新政的顶部。
187And then you can take that even further when we had the opportunity to put money back in然后你可以更进一步 当我们有机会把钱放回去
188your pockets.你的口袋里的东西
189Oh, no, he doesn't think you deserve that.哦,不,他不认为你应得的。
190He voted for the largest tax increase in the history of this country.他投票支持这个国家历史上最大的增税.
191He wanted to take more of your money when he provided the high prices on what you have他想用你那高价买你的钱
192to pay for out there.给外面的钱
193That's where this inflation is coming from.通货膨胀就是从这里来的.
194Thirty seconds, John Ossoff, rebuttal.30秒 约翰·奥索夫 反驳
195Well, let's talk about what's driving inflation and the cost of living crisis because we still好吧,让我们谈谈什么是驱动 通货膨胀和生活成本危机,因为我们仍然
196didn't get an answer at the beginning of this debate on the tariffs.在这场关于关税的辩论开始时没有得到答案.
197Mike, you said last week the tariffs are making it fair.迈克,你说上周的关税 使它公平。
198Why don't you explain that statement?你为什么不解释一下呢?
199Thirty seconds.30秒钟。
200You know, let's talk to my farmers down in South Georgia on tariffs.跟我在南乔治亚的农民谈谈关税问题
201You know, they've been struggling because these South American countries, these socialist你知道,他们一直在挣扎 因为南美洲国家,这些社会主义国家
202countries, communist countries, which I'm sure you like, they've been just flooding国家,共产主义国家, 我相信你喜欢, 他们只是洪水
203the cotton into this state and into this country, destroying the prices.棉花进入这个国家 摧毁了价格
204That's one reason we had to raise reference pricing, which John Ossoff voted against,这就是我们提高参考价的原因之一 约翰·奥索夫投票反对
205by the way.顺便说一句
206Timber.木材。
207I've been in the timber industry all my life.一生从事木材业.
208I've seen Canada just flood lumber into this country.我见过加拿大刚刚淹没木材进入这个国家。
209They don't care what they make for it.二者不思议所造.
210As long as they get a dollar, they're getting a dollar, but it is destroying American jobs只要他们得到一美元, 他们得到一美元, 但是它正在破坏美国的工作
211and businesses.和企业。
212Thank you.谢谢
213Thank you, Mike Collins.谢谢你,迈克柯林斯。
214Faith, please ask another question of Mike Collins.费丝,请再问一个关于麦克柯林斯的问题
215Congressman Collins, in the last debate, Senator Ossoff called you a bigot in that you hired柯林斯议员 在上次的辩论中 奥索夫参议员说你很偏执
216half of the Third Reich.第三帝国的一半。
217This was in connection to former members of your staff and their potential connections这与你的前工作人员及其潜在联系有关
218to white nationalists, according to reports.对白人民族主义者,根据报道。
219So I want to get your response to that.所以我想得到你的回应。
220And I just want to ask you directly here, are you a white nationalist?我只想直接问你 你是白人民族主义者吗?
221And what do you say to black Georgians who question whether you will represent them equally?你对格鲁吉亚黑人怎么说? 他们质疑你是否会平等地代表他们?
222No, I condemn any sort of hate speech.不,我谴责任何仇恨言论
223Anti-Semitism, hate of any kind.反犹太主义 任何形式的仇恨
224It's abhorrent.真可恶
225You know, and I've fired people when things happen.你知道,我解雇了人 当事情发生。
226Fired them.开除他们
227The problem is, John Ossoff never has done that.问题是,约翰·奥索夫从来没有这样做过.
228I mean, he hangs his hat on this Abdul El-Sayed, you know, the guy that hates Israel, the best他把帽子挂在阿卜杜勒·赛义德身上 那个讨厌以色列的人身上
229和Hassan Piker的朋友, 说美国值得9 -11。
230Where's his condemnation of that, of those two?他谴责那两个人在哪里?
231Where's this condemnation of Reid Hoffman, the guy that's been funding his campaign?对赖德・霍夫曼的谴责在哪里 那个资助他竞选的人?
232You don't hear that.你没有听到。
233I'll tell you, young people, young people, they're on both sides, Republicans in the我告诉你,年轻人,年轻人,他们是两边的,共和党人
234whole DSA wing of the Democrat Party.民主党的DSA部门
235We do have a problem with anti-Semitism and hate around the world.我们确实对全世界的反犹太主义和仇恨有问题。
236These people, these young people feel like they've been forgotten and they're just lashing这些人,这些年轻人 感觉他们被遗忘了,他们只是鞭打
237out and this hate speech has got to stop and we've got to educate them.这仇恨言论必须停止 我们必须教育他们
238We've got to help them by giving them opportunities.我们必须给他们机会来帮助他们。
239Thank you, Mike Collins.谢谢你,迈克柯林斯。
240John Ossoff, you have time for a 30-second rebuttal.约翰·奥索夫 你有时间进行30秒的反驳
241How weak a person do you have to be to be unable to stop someone under your own roof一个人有多弱 你不得不无法阻止一个人 在自己的屋檐下
242from disseminating neo-Nazi propaganda while you run for the Senate?在你竞选参议院期间 传播新纳粹的宣传?
243The paper reported it's still going on to this day.该报报道至今仍在进行.
244How about this, Mike?这个怎么样,迈克?
245We can shake hands on it.我们可以握手了
246Will you commit tonight that for the remainder of this campaign, it's just three weeks, Mike,今晚你能否承诺 在这场竞选的剩余时间里 就三周 迈克
247you won't allow any more neo-Nazi propaganda to be produced from your house?你不准从你家再做新纳粹宣传?
248Can you make that commitment?你能做出这个承诺吗?
249Unfortunately, I'm...很遗憾,我...
250No, I deserve that.不,我应得的。
25130 seconds.30秒钟。
25230 seconds, sir.30秒,长官
253Yes, ma'am.是,长官
254You know what?你知道吗?
255I'm a little tired of this, John.我有点厌倦了 约翰
256This crazy person in jail right now, because of your rhetoric and you threatened my son-in-law这个疯子现在在监狱里 因为你的言辞 你威胁我的女婿
257and threatened to kill me, had another threat just yesterday.并威胁要杀了我, 就在昨天,又有一个威胁。
258That's because of you and your rhetoric that you're out there spewing.那是因为你和你的夸夸其谈 你在那里涌出。
259Just vitriol hate.只是恶毒的仇恨。
260But what about you?那你怎么办?
261You have not denounced, you've not condemned.你没有谴责,你没有谴责。
262Give me Reid Hoffman, one of your largest donors out there, one that's been supporting给我Reid Hoffman,你最大的捐助者之一 一直支持他
263you with over a million dollars.你有超过一百万美金。
264Why don't you denounce it?你为什么不谴责它?
265Why don't you return that money?你为什么不把钱还回去?
266Thank you.谢谢
26730-second rebuttal.30秒的反驳
268Mike, if any of these folks were based in my house, then I'd understand you to ask me迈克 如果这些人都住在我家里 那我就理解你问我
269to take responsibility for them.负责他们。
270What I asked you, Mike, was can you commit for just three weeks to stop the production我问你,迈克, 你能承诺 仅仅三周 停止制作
271of neo-Nazi propaganda from your home?你家里的新纳粹宣传?
272It's happening.发生了
273We all know it's happening.我们都知道事情正在发生
274Why can't you stop it?为什么你不能阻止它?
275Why won't you commit right now to stopping it?为什么你现在不承诺阻止它?
276No, ma'am.没有,夫人。
277All right.好吧,我们走。
27830 seconds, and this is the last.30秒,这是最后一个。
279What I'm going to ask you is, why don't you denounce Reid Hoffman right now?我要问你的是 为什么你不现在就谴责Reid Hoffman?
280你为什么不把钱还给Reid Hoffman?
281The Epstein Files class guy.爱泼斯坦档案课的人
282You can't stop the production of neo-Nazi propaganda from your own house.你无法阻止新纳粹主义宣传 从你的房子。
283You don't know people that give you $20 or $15 or $10, but you know the people that max你不认识能给你20美元或15美元或10美元的人 但你最了解的人
284out to you.出来给你。
285You know the people pumping a million dollars into your supermax.你知道人们把一百万美元 注入你的超级大亨。
286So you're going to allow neo-Nazi propaganda to continue to be produced from your home所以你要允许新纳粹的宣传 继续从你家里产生
287while you run for the U.S. Senate.当你竞选美国参议院时
288Is that correct?是吗?
289People that you've been putting commercials out about.你拍广告的人
290You're just going to let the neo-Nazi propaganda continue, is that right?你要让新纳粹的宣传继续下去 是吗?
291You put the commercials out.你把广告放出去了
292Is that right?是吗?
293Make the commitment.做出承诺。
294Excuse me.对不起。
295No neo-Nazi propaganda.没有新纳粹的宣传。
296We are going to have to move on, gentlemen.我们必须继续前进,先生们。
297We are going to have to move on.我们必须继续前进。
298No more money.没钱了
299Give the money back.把钱还给我
300Thank you very much.谢谢
301We're going to move on.我们要继续前进。
302Greg, you have the final question of this round for Jon Ossoff.格雷格,这轮你还有最后一个问题 乔恩·奥索夫。
303Senator Ossoff, you've called the war against Iran a disastrous war of choice, but you voted奥索夫参议员,你把对伊朗的战争 称为一场灾难性的选择战争, 但你投票
304to confirm Secretary of State Marco Rubio a few months ago.几个月前确认国务卿马可·鲁比奥
305Of course, he has helped lead the administration's foreign policy.当然,他帮助领导了政府的外交政策.
306Knowing what you know today, do you regret that vote?知道你今天知道什么 你后悔投票吗?
307Look, Secretary Rubio has been a deep disappointment, but not as deep a disappointment as Secretary听着 鲁比奥部长一直很失望 但不像秘书那么失望
308Hegseth, who has lied repeatedly about the war in Iran.赫格塞斯一再谎称伊朗战争.
309I want everybody to remember that they told us last year that they'd obliterated Iran's我希望大家记住,他们去年告诉我们,他们已经消灭了伊朗。
310nuclear program.核计划。
311And then they told us this year that it posed an imminent threat and they had to take us然后他们告诉我们,今年 它构成了迫在眉睫的威胁 他们不得不带我们
312to war.战争。
313For both times, they were lying.两次,他们都在撒谎。
314President declared victory on the fourth day of the war.总统在战争的第四天宣布了胜利.
315It's been months and months, 21 Americans have been killed, hundreds wounded.历时数月,有21名美国人丧生,数百人受伤.
316It's never cost more to fill up your truck.装满你的卡车从不费钱
317We have a global energy crisis and Congressman Collins, to this day, continues to defend我们面临全球能源危机,柯林斯议员至今仍在捍卫
318the war.战争
319I think that Georgians deserve to know, Congressman, how this war has helped them.我认为格鲁吉亚人应该知道,议员,这场战争如何帮助他们。
320Iran still has its uranium, its drones, its missiles.伊朗仍然拥有铀,无人机,导弹.
321How has this war helped Georgians?这场战争如何帮助格鲁吉亚人?
322Simple question.简单的问题。
323Thirty-second rebuttal.三十二辩.
324You know, you talk about the war in Iran, I think it's hypocritical and ironic at the你知道,你谈论伊朗的战争, 我认为这是伪善和讽刺的
325same time that John Ossoff, you know, you take a look, everybody needs to remember this.当约翰·奥索夫,你知道,你看, 每个人都需要记住这一点。
326That's his word.这是他的话。
327Remember Georgia.记住乔治娅
328Remember this.记住这一点。
329He's the guy that's out there recruiting, supporting and endorsing people like Abdul他就是那个招募 支持和认可阿布杜尔的人的人
330El-Sayed.尔时世尊.
331That's his guy.这是他的人。
332He can't go against.他不能反对。
333That's why he's for Iran.故为伊朗.
334Because Abdul El-Sayed and the whole DSA movement, they hate Israel.因为阿卜杜勒·赛义德和整个DSA运动都憎恨以色列.
335They would rather vote for Iran than to support Israel.他们宁愿投伊朗票,也不愿支持以色列。
336That's time.是时候了
337Thirty-second rebuttal and then we're going to move on.第三十二回反驳,然后继续前进.
338Yeah.对
339Mike Collins is raising a Senate candidate in Michigan when the question, and a question迈克·柯林斯在密歇根州提出一个参议院候选人
340that Georgians deserve to hear an answer to, is how this war has been in our interests.格鲁吉亚人应该听到一个答案,那就是这场战争如何符合我们的利益。
341Folks, can't fill up a whole tank of gas.各位,不能装满一整罐的汽油
342Agriculture's getting crushed.农业正在崩溃。
343Everything's more expensive.万物更贵.
344Twenty-one Americans dead, hundreds wounded.21名美国人丧生,数百人受伤.
345Iran still has its uranium, its drones, its missiles.伊朗仍然拥有铀,无人机,导弹.
346Just answer the question, Mike.回答我,麦克
347How has this war been a success?这场战争是怎么成功的?
348We're going to move on because that concludes our first round now.我们要继续前进 因为第一回合到此结束
349Each candidate will now ask two questions of their opponent.每位候选人现在向对手提出两个问题。
350You will have 30 seconds to ask the question, 60 seconds to respond, and the person who你们有30秒的时间来提问,60秒的时间来回答问题,还有...
351asks the questions will get a 30-second rebuttal.问问题会有30秒的反驳
352And Senator John Ossoff, please ask your first question of Representative Mike Collins.约翰·奥索夫参议员 请问你第一个 迈克·柯林斯议员的问题
353Yeah, Mike, the press has heard the tape.是的,迈克,媒体已经听到了录音带。
354I've heard the tape.我听过录音带
355I think you've heard the tape.我想你已经听到了带子。
356Donald Trump demanding that Brad Raffensperger deliver the votes to win in a state he'd唐纳德·特朗普要求布拉德·拉芬斯佩尔格(英语:Brad Raffensperger)在自己能赢的状态下提供选票.
357lost.输了
358You didn't answer earlier.你刚才没有回答
359Answer now.现在回答。
360Did Donald Trump win the 2020 election?唐纳德·特朗普是否赢得2020年大选?.
361You may respond.你可以回应。
362All right.好吧,我们走。
363Thank you.谢谢
364You know, the 2020 election, everybody's seen my views on that.你知道,2020年的选举, 每个人都看到了我的观点。
365They know my views on that.他们知道我的看法
366There was a lot of doubt in that election.那次选举有许多疑问.
367Yes, Joe Biden was the president, and yes, we saw the results of the Biden presidency是的,乔・拜登是总统, 是的,我们看到了拜登总统的结果
368along with John Ossoff.与约翰·奥索夫。
369Folks, you saw what happened under that debacle of an administration, whether it was the Bidenomics各位,你们看到政府崩溃下发生的事了 不管是拜登漫画
370that they passed.他们通过。
371That's what caused all this high inflation.这就是造成这些高通胀的原因.
372He's trying to...他试图...
373He'll talk about anything he can except his record.除了他的记录,他还会谈他所能谈的一切.
374That's why we're going to continue to talk about his record tonight, to make sure that所以我们今晚要继续讨论他的记录 以确保
375you understand the reason that everything is so high.你明白为什么一切都这么高。
376Your groceries, your clothes, every...你的杂货,你的衣服,每个...
377You name it.你说吧
378It's because of what they put on the backs of the American people and that Green New是因为他们把 美国人民的背部和绿色新
379Deal.说定了
380You're talking about farmers?你在说农民吗?
381How much property has gone from farmland to solar panels because of the money that they从农田到太阳能电池板的地产 有多少是因为钱
382were shelling out?被炮击了?
383Thank you very much.谢谢
384John Ossoff, rebuttal.约翰·奥索夫 反驳
385Well, Donna, I didn't hear an answer to the question.唐娜 我没听到答案
386The question was whether Donald Trump won the 2020 election.问题是唐纳德·特朗普是否赢得2020年大选.
387Not only will Mike Collins refuse to answer tonight, but he's on record repeatedly insisting麦克柯林斯不但拒绝今晚的回答 而且他一再坚持
388that Donald Trump did in fact win the 2020 election, an election that he lost, and Mike唐纳德·特朗普确实赢得了2020年的大选 他输了这场选举 迈克也输了
389Collins is on record supporting handing your tax dollars to the violent thugs and criminals柯林斯有案可查 支持把税钱交给暴徒和罪犯
390who sacked the U.S. Capitol and tried to overturn the election, aren't you, Mike?谁炒掉美国都城 试图推翻选举 是吗,迈克?
391Thank you.谢谢
392Representative Collins, your question to Senator John Ossoff, please.柯林斯议员 请向参议员约翰·奥索夫提问
393You know, John, one of your largest donors is Reid Hoffman.约翰,你最大的捐赠者之一是里德·霍夫曼
394He slept on the Epstein Island.他睡在爱泼斯坦岛.
395He stayed at his Manhattan townhouse.他住在曼哈顿的豪宅里
396He sent Epstein ice cream and said, it's for the girls.他给Epstein送了冰淇淋 说这是给女孩们吃的
397You claim to fight against the Epstein class, but I'm going to tell you, this call is coming你声称要对抗爱泼斯坦阶级 但我要告诉你,这个电话就要来了
398from inside the house, and the Epstein class is on stage right now, and it's you.从屋里,爱泼斯坦课 现在在舞台上,是你。
399Will you condemn Reid Hoffman and apologize for your hypocrisy tonight?你会谴责里德・霍夫曼 并为你的伪善道歉吗?
400Mike, who on your team advised you to raise the Epstein files?迈克,你小组里是谁建议你 提高爱泼斯坦的文件?
401You voted to cover up the evidence, Mike.你投票掩盖证据 迈克
402Listen, folks, I want to repeat it again.听着,伙计们,我想再说一遍。
403It's important to understand.这很重要 理解。
404When Congress was voting on whether to release that evidence, we all knew what had happened,当国会投票决定是否公布证据时 我们都知道发生了什么
405but you voted to cover up the evidence even though you knew 14-year-old girls had been但你投票掩盖证据 尽管你知道14岁女孩
406raped because Donald Trump told you to.强奸是因为唐纳德·特朗普叫你强奸的
407Donald Trump, who, by the way, is named a thousand times in the Epstein files.顺便提一句,唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)在爱泼斯坦档案中被命名了一千次.
408Have you ever met with Jeffrey Epstein's victims when they ask you why you voted to cover up你见过Jeffrey Epstein的受害者吗 他们问你为什么要投票掩盖
409the Epstein files?爱泼斯坦的文件?
410Do you have an answer?你有答案吗?
411What would you say to them tonight, Mike, after you voted to cover up evidence of the麦克,你今晚会怎么跟他们说?
412most notorious sex trafficking ring in American history?美国历史上最臭名昭著的性交易圈?
413The vote is public record.投票公开纪录.
414You voted to cover up the Epstein files.你投票掩盖爱泼斯坦的文件
415You should explain that vote to Jeffrey Epstein's victims right now.你应该解释一下 投票给杰弗里·爱泼斯坦的受害者
416Representative Collins, your rebuttal.柯林斯代表,你的反驳
417You know, he never answered the question.你知道,他从来没有回答过这个问题。
418He won't answer the question because he's part of that crowd.他不会回答这个问题,因为他是人群的一部分。
419That's the people he caters to.这就是他招待的人。
420People like Reid Hoffman.像里德·霍夫曼这样的人
421Disgusting.恶心.
422That's a data center billionaire Epstein elite class.这是一个数据中心亿万富翁爱泼斯坦精英阶层。
423That's part of John Ossoff.那是约翰·奥索夫的一部分
424By the way, John, I did vote to release the Epstein files.顺便说一句,约翰,我确实投票 释放爱泼斯坦的文件。
425I voted to release them.我投票决定释放他们
426Thank you.谢谢
427John Ossoff, you may ask your question, your second question, of Representative Collins.约翰·奥索夫,你可以问你的第二个问题, 代表柯林斯。
428Well, Mike, diesel's at its all-time high.迈克,柴油机的 创历史新高。
429Unleaded's at $4.未领四钱.
43040% of Americans are cutting food and health costs because they can't afford gas.40%的美国人因为买不起煤气而削减食物和健康成本.
431Last week, you said gas prices were coming down.上周你说气价会下跌
432Explain that statement to voters across Georgia.向格鲁吉亚各地的选民解释这一说法。
433You know, diesel prices are coming down.你知道,柴油价格正在下跌。
434Diesel's high.柴油机高低.
435太高了 高了点 It's too high.
436But the fact of the matter is that we've done things to get more supply.但事实是,我们已经做了一些事情来获得更多的供给.
437It's a supply and demand issue.供求问题.
438And the problem is that we've spent decades, people, decades of just decimating our own问题是,我们花了几十年,人,几十年 刚刚毁灭我们自己的
439refineries here to where we can't refine.炼油厂到我们无法改良的地方
440And that's through John Ossoff, the Democrats, who don't even want you in gas automobiles.这是通过约翰・奥索夫, 民主党, 他们甚至不希望你在天然气汽车。
441As a matter of fact, John Ossoff doesn't really care how high gas prices get.事实上,约翰·奥索夫并不真正在乎天然气价格会有多高.
442Because what he actually wants, he wants you to ride in mass transit.因为他真正想要的,他想让你骑在大众中转。
443If it wasn't so, he wouldn't have voted for that Green New Deal.如果不是这样的话,他就不会投票支持那个绿色新政了.
444If it wasn't so, they wouldn't have killed the Keystone Pipeline.如果不是那样的话,他们就不会杀死关键石管道.
445If it wasn't so, they'd be helping to get us to where we're energy independent.如果不是那样的话,他们会帮助我们到达 能量独立的地方。
446He voted against that.他投了反对票。
447He would rather have us be dependent on foreign countries out there to produce our oil when他宁愿让我们依靠外国生产石油
448we've got more right here under our own earth, more than we'll ever need.我们拥有的地球比我们所需要的还多
449But it's people like that that don't understand economics that vote against this stuff.但正是这种人不懂经济学,才会投票反对这些东西.
450Thank you.谢谢
451Ossoff, you have a rebuttal.奥索夫 你有一个反驳
452Diesel's up 70% since Trump took office, Mike.特朗普上任后柴油涨70%,迈克.
453You said last week gas prices were coming down.你上星期说气价会下跌
454You didn't explain the statement.你没有解释声明。
455You want another try?你想再试一次吗?
456Are gas prices coming down?气价下降吗?
457You may answer in 30 seconds.你可以在30秒内回答
458Are they coming down?他们下来了吗?
459Diesel prices are high.柴油价格很高。
460The supply is coming.供给已来.
461The supply is coming now, and the prices will continue to come down.供应即将到来,价格将继续下降。
462They're already coming down, but they're going to continue to come down.他们已经下来了,但他们会继续下来.
463What needs to be explained is why John Ossoff, he really doesn't care about the gas prices.需要解释的是为什么约翰·奥索夫,他真的不在乎天然气价格.
464They can be as high as whatever.他们可以像什么一样高。
465It doesn't matter.没关系
466He's a Green New Deal guy.他是一个绿色新政的家伙。
467He doesn't want you in gasoline or diesel vehicles.他不希望你在汽油或柴油车。
468We just want you riding on mass transit.我们只想你骑在大众中转。
469Thank you.谢谢
470We are going to have to move on.我们必须继续前进。
471We really want to get more questions.我们真的想问更多的问题。
472Now, you get the last question in this round, Mike Collins, for John Ossoff.现在,你得到最后一个问题 本回合,迈克柯林斯,约翰・奥索夫。
473Okay.摆
474John, you like to talk about constituent services.约翰,你喜欢谈论 组成服务。
475You know, when I was in your office, I asked you to help our shared constituent, Lake and你知道,当我在你的办公室, 我要求你 帮助我们的共同组成,湖和
476Riley, to get justice.莱利,得到正义。
477And you just stared at me.你只是盯着我看
478We could have passed her bill under President Biden, but you wouldn't lift a finger.我们本可以在拜登总统手下通过她的法案 但你却一举不动
479I mean, were you too cowardly to stand up for what's right, or was it just politically我的意思是,你太懦弱了 站出来什么是正确的, 还是只是政治上
480convenient to wait until it was going to pass anyway?方便的等待 直到它会通过反正?
481Mike, you know I voted for the bill.迈克,你知道我投了票
482You're not just lying about my record.你不只是对我的记录撒谎
483You're lying about a young woman's death because your campaign is in collapse, and your campaign你对一个年轻女人的死撒谎 因为你的竞选失败了 你的竞选失败了
484is in collapse because the whole state knows that you're currently under federal investigation因为全州都知道你正在接受联邦调查
485for the illegal misuse of tax dollars.非法滥用税款。
486And last week, you said you wanted the House Ethics Committee to release all those files.上周 你说你想让众议院道德委员会 公布所有这些文件
487Well, here's what the Office of Congressional Conduct said.国会行为办公室说
488It said the board recommends that the Committee on Ethics issue a subpoena to Representative它说,董事会建议道德操守委员会向代表发出传票。
489Mike Collins to force him to testify because there is, quote, substantial reason to believe迈克·柯林斯强迫他作证 因为 引用的话 有充分的理由相信
490that Rep. Collins used congressional resources for unofficial or otherwise unauthorized purposes.柯林斯共和国将国会资源用于非官方或未经授权的目的。
491Those are public money.这是公款
492Don't lie about my record.别对我的记录撒谎
493Explain why you won't testify right now.解释你为什么现在不作证
494Thank you.谢谢
495Mike Collins, 30-second rebuttal.迈克·柯林斯 30秒的反驳
496Wow.珃
497Georgia, did you hear that?乔治娅,你听到了吗?
498Do you understand that?你明白吗?
499All he does is deflect.他只会偏转
500He deflects when we finally get into talking about his record of how he actually votes,当我们终于谈起 他的投票记录时 他转移了注意力
501what he actually thinks.他实际上的想法。
502You want to know if he'd have been in the private sector, he'd have been fired because你想知道,如果他是 私营部门,他会被解雇 因为
503he was responsible for that young woman's death.他是那个年轻女人的死因
504He allowed that border to stay open.他允许边界保持开放。
505He knew that border was, he knew that criminals were flooding across that border down there,他知道边界是, 他知道罪犯 淹过边界下面,
506killing and harming Americans.杀害和伤害美国人。
507He didn't help lift a finger on that bill.他对那张账单一动不动
508He only voted for it when it was politically convenient.他只在政治方便的时候才投了票.
509Thank you.谢谢
510I knew it was going to pass.我知道会过去的
511Thank you both.谢谢你们
512You are watching the general election debate for U.S. Senate, and we'll now go back to你们正在看美国参议院的大选辩论 我们现在就回到
513the panel who will ask questions to the candidate of their choice until we run out of time.他们会向他们选择的候选人提问 直到我们用完时间
514And Faith Jessee, we're going to start with you.还有费丝·杰西 我们从你开始
515Thank you so much, Donna.谢谢你,唐娜
516Congressman Collins, my first question is for you.柯林斯议员,我第一个问题要问你
517Black Georgians face persistent disparities in home ownership, household wealth, and access格鲁吉亚黑人在拥有住房、家庭财富和获得住房方面长期面临差距
518to capital in our state.到本州首都
519Just a number for you here, according to the U.S. Census Bureau in 2024.根据2024年美国人口调查局的资料 这里只有你的一个号码
520White Georgians owned about, or excuse me, about 80% of white Georgians own homes compared白人格鲁吉亚人拥有约80%的格鲁吉亚白人家园,
521to just about 53% of black Georgians.大约53%的格鲁吉亚黑人。
522Can you name one federal policy you would champion specifically to narrow those gaps你能说出一个联邦政策吗? 你会特别支持缩小这些差距
523for black Georgians?给格鲁吉亚黑人?
524Yeah, you know, I can, I was sitting there trying to write to stay ahead of you.是的,你知道,我可以,我坐在那里 试图写信 保持领先你。
525Empowerment zones, huge, huge.授权区,巨大,巨大的。
526I think we need to expand them and push them even further.我认为,我们需要扩大它们,并进一步推动它们。
527But when you talk about housing, look at what's happened here in Atlanta.但是当你谈论住房时 看看亚特兰大发生了什么
528I mean, 25% of the houses are now owned by corporate ownership.25%的房屋现在归公司所有
529We voted to get rid of that.我们投票放弃了这个
530And the problem is, John Ossoff voted against that.而问题在于,约翰·奥索夫对此投了反对票.
531He voted against that.他投了反对票。
532We voted to make sure that young people have that opportunity to get out there and chase我们投票确保年轻人有这个机会 出去追逐
533their version of the American dream, to make sure that they have that opportunity.他们的美国梦的版本, 确保他们有这个机会。
534Those are two great examples of what we need to do.这是我们需要做的两个伟大的例子。
535Thank you.谢谢
536We're going to move on.我们要继续前进。
537Well, I need the opportunity to respond to that.我需要机会来回应
538He made a false allegation.他提出虚假指控。
53930 seconds, sir.30秒,长官
540So first of all, false.故先虚实.
541I voted for the bill to crack down on corporate home ownership.我投票支持法案 以打破公司房屋所有权。
542It was Donald Trump who refused to sign it, Mike.是唐纳德·特朗普拒绝签字,麦克.
543But you stand here and say you're going to be a champion for black Georgians when you但你站在这里 说你会成为格鲁吉亚黑人的冠军
544elevate to positions of leadership in your political organization, people with ties to提升到你们政治组织的领导地位,
545the Ku Klux Klan.三K党党团
546You want to explain that to folks across Georgia?你想向格鲁吉亚各地的人解释吗?
547Did you accidentally put people with Klan ties in your political organization?你是不是不小心把三K党的人 放在你的政治组织里?
54830 second rebuttal.30秒反驳。
549What we need to do for the people of the state of Georgia is make sure that they have money我们需要为格鲁吉亚人民做的是确保他们有钱
550in their pockets, make sure that they have opportunities.在他们的口袋, 确保他们有机会。
551You do that by getting interest rates down.你这样做是降低利率。
552You do that by getting this economy back to rolling again.你这样做是为了让这个经济 重新滚动。
553And how do you do that?那你怎么办?
554You do that through lower taxes.你这样做是通过降低税收。
555You do that through making sure that regulations are off the backs of the American people and你这样做,通过确保 条例离背 美国人民和
556American businesses out there.美国企业在那里。
557See, John Ossoff doesn't talk about things like that because he can't.约翰·奥索夫不会说那样的话 因为他不能
558He'd rather throw smears and accusations and lies out there about me instead of talk about他宁愿抹黑和指责 谎报我,而不是说
559actual problems.实际问题。
560Thank you, Mr. Collins.谢谢你,柯林斯先生
561We are going to go to Greg and it's your turn to ask a question.我们要去找格雷格 轮到你提问了
562Senator Ossoff, if Democrats take the U.S. House in November, would you support a push奥索夫参议员 如果民主党在11月占领美国大厦 你会支持推动吗?
563to impeach President Trump and if so, would you vote to convict him?弹劾特朗普总统 如果是这样 你会投票判他有罪吗?
564Well, Greg, in my view, based upon the evidence I've seen thus far, the president's misconduct,格雷格 我认为 根据我目前所见的证据 总统的不当行为
565abuse of power and corruption already exceed any prior standard for impeachment.滥用权力和腐败已经超过了任何先前的弹劾标准。
566If the U.S. House does send us articles of impeachment, then I'll consider them on the如果美国众议院确实给我们发了弹劾文章 那我会考虑
567merits as a juror in the Senate.在参议院担任陪审员
568It's worth reminding everybody that while you pay more for everything, when it costs值得提醒大家,虽然你付出更多的一切,当它的成本
569more than any time in American history to power your home, stock your fridge, fill up超过美国历史上任何时间 给家里供电 储存冰箱 填满
570your truck because of the tariffs Mike Collins voted for, because of the war Mike Collins你的卡车因为关税 迈克柯林斯投票支持, 因为战争 迈克柯林斯
571continues to defend, because of the health care cuts he voted for, Donald Trump is enriching唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)继续捍卫,因为医疗被削减,
572himself and his family to the tune of billions of dollars.他自己和他的家人 达到数十亿美元。
573I wonder if Mike Collins can defend that.我想知道迈克·柯林斯能否为这个辩护
574I wonder if Mike Collins can defend voting to double your health insurance premiums.我想知道迈克·柯林斯能否为投票辩护 将你的健康保险费增加一倍
575You didn't explain it last week, Mike.你上周没解释,迈克
576Why did you vote to double health insurance premiums for your own constituents?你为什么投票把自己选民的医疗保险费增加一倍?
577Thank you.谢谢
578Representative Collins, you have 30 seconds.柯林斯代表,你还有30秒
579You know, there's a lot that John Ossoff didn't explain last week.你知道,有很多 约翰·奥索夫没有解释上周。
580Let's talk about expensive because boy, he's made our life more expensive.让我们来谈谈昂贵,因为男孩, 他使我们的生活更加昂贵。
581You know, first of all, you voted against the child care tax credit.你知道,首先,你投票反对 儿童保育税抵免。
582Moms, think about that.妈妈,想想看
583He voted against that to let it expire.他投了反对票,希望它过期。
584He wanted to do away with it.他本想放弃的
585The problem is he doesn't care how much it costs.问题是他不在乎花费多少钱
586He never, he won't ever have to fool with that.他永远不会, 他永远不会用它来愚弄。
587He won't ever have to fool with health care because he doesn't care.他不会因为不在乎就用医疗来愚弄他
588He doesn't need to.他不需要这样
589He's a trust fund kid.他是一个信托基金的孩子。
590He'll always have that money there.他总是有那些钱在那里。
591Thank you very much.谢谢
592We're going to go back to our panelists in faith.我们要回到我们的小组成员的信仰。
593We go back to you for a question for one of the candidates.我们回去问你一个问题 一个候选人。
594Thank you, Senator Ossoff.谢谢你,奥索夫参议员
595My next question is for you.我下一个问题要问你
596In the last debate, you said that Israeli forces violated the international humanitarian在上次辩论中,你说以色列部队违反了国际人道主义法。
597law.诸法.
598You also support military assistance to Israel.你也支持向以色列提供军事援助。
599So should Congress place any conditions on that aid to Israel and do you believe any因此,国会是否应该为援助以色列规定任何条件,你是否认为
600violations should trigger a cutoff?违反《公约》的行为应导致停产?
601Well Faith, first of all, let me say that the security of the Israeli people matters首先,让我说,以色列人民的安全很重要
602to me.对我来说。
603I have relatives living in Israel.我有亲戚住在以色列
604The safety and security of Palestinians matters to me and it should matter to all of us.巴勒斯坦人的安全和保障对我很重要,而且对我们所有人都应如此。
605And here's the bottom line, when it comes to selling weapons or giving weapons to a这里的底线, 当它涉及到出售武器 或给一个
606foreign government, we should assess in every case whether that foreign government is acting外国政府,我们应该评估 在所有情况下,外国政府是否正在采取行动
607consistent with our interests, our laws, and our values.符合我们的利益、法律和价值观。
608Israel had every right to go to war with Hamas after the despicable October 7th terrorist在十月七日恐怖份子之后,
609attack.攻击。
610I also believe that it's right for US senators to ensure that American laws and international我还相信,美国参议员确保美国法律和国际法
611laws are being respected by those who fight with our weapons.使用我们武器作战的人尊重法律。
612And I stand by those votes.我支持这些选票。
613Thank you.谢谢
614Greg, please ask another question.格雷格,请问另一个问题。
615Congressman Collins, this one's for you.柯林斯议员 这是给你的
616Should the Trump administration intervene in Georgia's election system or have a role特朗普政府是否干预格鲁吉亚的选举制度,
617in declaring whether the state's voting machines are illegal or illegal?在宣布国家投票机器是否非法时?
618You know, I believe that voting should always be a state's right.我认为投票应该永远是州的权利
619And Georgia, people have, if they don't have confidence in our elections, then we need乔治亚州,人们,如果他们对我们的选举没有信心, 那么我们需要
620to make sure that they do.确保他们这样做。
621And that needs to go for any state.这需要去任何州。
622You know, the problem is that we have voter ID here in Georgia, we do.问题在于我们格鲁吉亚有选民证
623But when offered the opportunity, at least five times, John Ossoff voted against the但当提供这个机会时,约翰·奥索夫至少投了5次反对票。
624SAVE Act to get voter ID for all across this country.拯救 行动起来为全国的选民取得身份证。
625Y'all, we live in the best country in the world.我们住在世界上最好的国家
626There's no reason we shouldn't have the most secure elections in the world.我们没有理由不举行世界上最安全的选举。
627But people like John Ossoff, they don't believe that.但是约翰·奥索夫这样的人,他们不相信这一点.
628But I'll tell you something else.但我会告诉你一些事情
629What he does believe in is making sure that you have an ID if you want to go to one of他相信的就是确保你有身份证 如果你想去其中之一
630his rallies.他的集会。
631All right.好吧,我们走。
632Thank you.谢谢
63330 seconds, please.请稍等30秒
634Mike, we have voter ID in Georgia.麦克,乔治亚有选民证
635The question is about election administration.问题在于选举管理。
636You still haven't answered tonight whether you believe Donald Trump actually won the你今晚还没回答 你是否相信唐纳德·特朗普真的赢了
6372020 election.2020年选举.
638Here's your third chance.这是你的第三个机会。
639Did Donald Trump really win the 2020 election?唐纳德·特朗普真的赢得2020年大选吗?.
640You want to answer, Mike?你想回答吗,迈克?
64130 seconds.30秒钟。
642He still hasn't answered for the third time anything about Reid Hoffman.他还是没有第三次回答任何关于里德·霍夫曼的事情.
643But I have said numerous times that Joe Biden was the president in 2021.但我曾多次说过乔·拜登是2021年的总统.
644Not what I asked.不是我问的
645Yeah.对
646But where's his answer?但是他的答案呢? 他的回答呢? 他的回答呢?
647Where's his answer on the list of things that we've, and we've got more questions for him他的答案在我们手上 我们还有更多的问题要问他
648to go.离开。
649We're going to move on.我们要继续前进。
650Faith, it's your turn to ask a question.费丝 该你提问了
651Thank you.谢谢
652This question is for both of the candidates.这个问题是针对两位候选人的。
653I would love for you to both weigh in on the issue of maternal health.我希望你们都重视产妇保健问题。
654According to Georgia's Department of Public Health, 87% of pregnancy related deaths here据格鲁吉亚公共卫生部统计,这里87%的与怀孕有关的死亡
655in our state between 2020 and 2022 could have been prevented.在2020年至2022年间,我们国家本可以防止。
656So Senator Ossoff and Congressman Collins, if either of you are elected, how much funding所以奥索夫参议员和柯林斯众议员 如果你们中谁当选 有多少资金
657will you commit to securing for direct maternal care here in Georgia and by what deadline?你会承诺在什么期限内 在格鲁吉亚实现直接的产妇护理吗?
658Senator Ossoff?奥索夫参议员?
659Faith, thank you for the question.费丝 谢谢你的问候
660It's going to require not just billions of dollars of federal support, but also Medicaid不仅需要数十亿美元的联邦支持 还需要医疗援助
661expansion here in Georgia, which is why it is crucial that we elect Mayor Keisha Lance因此,我们必须选出凯莎·兰斯市长
662Bottoms, the next governor of our state, for her commitment to expand Medicaid.Bottoms,我们州的下一任州长, 因为她承诺扩大医疗补助。
663We are in the middle of a maternal mortality crisis.我们正处于产妇死亡率危机之中。
664And you know, when the congressman voted for those Medicaid cuts, the largest in history,你知道,当国会议员投票 削减医疗补助, 有史以来最大的,
665he knew that 50% of all births in our state are covered by Medicaid.他知道我们州50%的新生儿 都由医疗补助支付
666He still voted for them.他仍然投给他们。
667And as a result, a labor and delivery unit in his own district had to shut down.结果,他所在地区的一个劳动和分娩单位不得不关闭。
668Talk about our maternal mortality crisis.谈谈我们的产妇死亡率危机。
669This is also a congressman who supports a total ban on abortion with no exceptions,这也是一位支持全面禁止堕胎的议员,无一例外,
670even if the mother will die for lack of health care.即使母亲因缺乏医疗而死亡。
671And I bet he'll try to change his position right now, but it was right here on this stage我敢打赌,他会尝试改变他的立场 现在,但它就在这里在这个阶段
672four years ago when he said a total ban with no exceptions.四年前,他说完全禁止,没有例外。
673Is that still your position?那还是你的位置吗?
674Thank you.谢谢
675Your answer to Faith Jesse's question.你回答费丝·杰西的问题
676Yes, ma'am.是,长官
677You know, we need to make sure that we dedicate all the money necessary to give these mothers你知道,我们需要确保 我们投入所有必要的资金 给这些母亲
678the help that they need, period.他们需要的帮助,期限。
679We need to make sure that, and we do, we've got great health care here in this country.我们需要确保这一点, 而且我们这样做, 我们已经有了伟大的医疗保健 在这里这个国家。
680You're going to continue to see just true advancements with the onset of AI out there.你会继续看到真正的进步 随着AI的开始在那里。
681But the problem with the Medicaid expansion that John Ossoff is talking about, he voted但是约翰·奥索夫所说的 医疗补助计划扩大的问题 他投了票
682for that.对于这个。
683He voted for that back in the Biden administration, and they made it sunset.他在拜登政府里投了票, 他们让日落。
684If it was so good, he should have made it permanent.如果那样好的话,他应该让它永久化.
685But those were subsidies for the pandemic.但这些是对这一大流行病的补贴。
686He could have fixed that right then, but he didn't.他当时本来可以修好的 但他没有
687And the other thing that I want to say is, you know, he voted against the $50 billion还有一件事我想说,你知道, 他投票反对500亿美元
688that we put out there for rural hospitals.我们放在那里 农村医院。
689I brought in $200 million here in the state of Georgia to help our rural hospitals.我带来了2亿美元 在格鲁吉亚州帮助我们的农村医院。
690And the reason that they're suffering, the reasons they're going down is because of Obamacare,他们受苦受难的原因 他们倒下的原因是奥巴马护理
691that Affordable Care Act that really wasn't affordable at all, because I was in the private买得起的护理法案 真正是买不起的, 因为我在私人
692sector.部门。
693I know what it felt like that first year that we had to go forward.我知道我们第一年的感受,我们必须向前迈进。
694Thank you.谢谢
695Thirty-second rebuttal, please.请三十二辩.
696You're getting Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act mixed up, despite reading from your尽管你读了《医疗补助》和《负担得起的护理法》
697notes.注释。
698But it was four years ago, on this stage, when you said you wanted to ban abortion with但四年前,在这个阶段, 你说你想禁止堕胎
699no exceptions.没有例外。
700Take a look at this man.看看这个人
701He believes that if you are in a late-term pregnancy and you risk hemorrhaging to death他认为如果你晚期怀孕 并有出血死亡的危险
702or irrevocable injury, you must not be able to terminate that pregnancy.您不能终止妊娠。
703That's what he said.他就是这么说的
704Let's see if he tries to change his position tonight.看看他今晚会不会改变立场
705Thirty seconds.30秒钟。
706I've been pro-life all my life, forever.我一生都是支持生命的 永远
707I also believe that the Georgia legislature got it right, that the governor and legislature我还相信,格鲁吉亚立法机构是对的, 州长和立法机构
708allow for three exceptions, with the heinous rapes or incest or in the life of the mother.允许三种例外情况,但令人发指的强奸或乱伦或母亲的生活中。
709But my opponent, John Ossoff, is completely the opposite.但我的对手约翰·奥索夫则完全相反.
710He's all for abortion up into and past birth.他完全赞成堕胎 进入和过世。
711You talk about extreme?你说的是极端?
712That's John Ossoff in his position on abortion.这是约翰·奥索夫在堕胎问题上的立场.
713Thirty seconds.30秒钟。
714Mike, I support the standard of privacy that was established in Roe v. Wade.迈克,我支持在Roe诉Wade案中确立的隐私标准.
715You supported a ban with no exceptions.你支持无一例外的禁令。
716I want everybody who's clipping this debate for television news across Georgia and online我要所有在乔治亚州和网上 为电视新闻剪辑这场辩论的人
717tonight to roll that tape.今晚来录影带
718You stood here right on this stage and you said a total ban, no exceptions, even for你站在这个舞台上 说完全禁止,没有例外,甚至...
719rape, even for incest, even to save the mother's life.强奸,即使是乱伦,甚至为了拯救母亲的生命。
720That was your position and now you're changing it.那是你的立场 现在你要改变它
721One last time.最后一次机会。
722Thirty seconds.30秒钟。
723Yeah, they need to roll that tape back because it said without exception.是的,他们需要把磁带卷回去 因为它说无一例外。
724That means without exception, my entire life I have been pro-life.这意味着毫无例外,我一生都是亲生的。
725I believe that the Supreme Court got it right when they remanded it back to the state.我相信当他们发回州里时 最高法院已经知道了
726It's also out there on video that I have constantly said that I believe the Georgia's legislature我经常说 我相信格鲁吉亚的立法机构
727got it right, too, that the governor and the legislature here, that allows for the exception州长和立法部门也同意例外
728under rape or incest or the life of the mother.强奸、乱伦或母亲的生命。
729But my opponent, he's definitely for poor abortion all the way up to.但我的对手,他绝对是 穷堕胎一路。
730Thank you.谢谢
731We're going to move on, sir.我们要继续前进,长官
732Greg, it's your turn to ask a question of one of the panelists.Greg 该你问一个小组成员的问题了
733Yeah, this next question is for both of you gentlemen, but starting with you, Congressman是的,下一个问题要问两位先生 但从你们开始,议员
734Collins.柯林斯 柯林斯 柯林斯 柯林斯 柯林斯 柯林斯
735It's about federal spending.这是关于联邦开支。
736The federal government continues to run enormous deficits.联邦政府继续赤字巨大.
737Name one federal program that you would cut or reduce spending on to help bring that deficit说一个联邦计划,你会削减或削减支出 帮助带来赤字
738down.下来
739Yeah, you know, Greg, it would help if we looked at doing our job up there.是啊,你知道,格雷格, 它会帮助,如果我们看 做我们的工作在那里。
740Not just one program, but if we would get back to just doing it, we don't have a very不只是一个程序,但如果我们能回到做它, 我们没有非常
741hard job description up there.硬工作说明在那里。
742We don't pass our appropriation bills.我们不通过我们的拨款账单。
743If you don't pass your appropriation bills, you don't bring these federal agencies in如果你不通过你的拨款法案, 你不能把这些 联邦机构英寸
744and call them in on the carpet, and you don't get to cross out and cut their budgets.并叫他们到地毯上, 你没有得到交叉和削减他们的预算。
745And when we continuously just pass omnibus bills and continuous resolutions, there's当我们不断通过总括法案和连续决议时,
746no accountability.没有问责制。
747We just throw a check out there and say, see you next year.我们刚刚扔了一张支票 说,明年见。
748There's plenty of waste, fraud, and abuse.充斥着浪费,欺诈和滥用
749Waste, fraud, and abuse, and Medicaid, Medicare, you've seen that in Minnesota.浪费 欺诈 滥用 还有医疗补助 医疗保险 你在明尼苏达州看到的
750So we've got to continue to get rid of the waste, fraud, and abuse.因此我们必须继续清除浪费,欺诈,和滥用.
751We've got to continue to do our jobs with appropriations.我们要继续用拨款做我们的工作.
752Thank you.谢谢
753I thought it was that.我以为是那个
754Well, we can immediately save tens of billions of taxpayer dollars by ending this disastrous我们可以立即节省数百亿纳税人 结束这场灾难
755war in Iran, a war that's based on lies, a war that Mike Collins has continued to defend伊朗战争,一场基于谎言的战争, 迈克·柯林斯继续捍卫的战争
756all night, even as he insists falsely that gas prices are in fact coming down.整夜,即使他坚持不实 天然气价格实际上正在下跌。
757But Mike, you want to talk about waste, fraud, and abuse?但是迈克,你想谈 浪费,欺诈,和虐待?
758How about a congressional office under federal investigation for the illegal misuse of tax国会办公室被联邦调查非法滥用税收如何?
759dollars?美元吗?
760You've tried to dismiss this over and over and over again.你试图一次又一次地把这事驳回
761I want folks to hear what the Office of Congressional Conduct said.我要大家听听国会行为办公室怎么说
762This is a nonpartisan body.这是一个无党派机构。
763In fact, there are Georgia Republicans who sit on it.事实上,有乔治亚共和党人坐在那里.
764They said, quote, several witnesses expressed to the Office of Congressional Conduct concerns他们说,引用一些证人对国会行为办公室表示的关切
765about possible retaliation for their cooperation with the investigation of Congressman Collins.关于他们可能报复 与调查 众议员柯林斯。
766Yes or no?是还是不是?
767Will you testify?你会作证吗?
768Representative Collins, 32nd rebuttal.代表柯林斯,第32次反驳.
769Georgia, here's the truth.乔治娅,这是事实。
770The Office of Congressional Conduct is a group of lawyers that Nancy Pelosi put in place国会行为办公室是Nancy Pelosi设立的一组律师
771when she was the speaker.当她说话的时候
772They're not even my peers.他们甚至不是我的同伴。
773They're not elected members of Congress.他们没有当选国会议员.
774The Ethics Committee makes up and is made up by members of Congress.道德委员会由国会议员组成。
775We have fully complied with them.我们充分遵守了这些建议。
776It's a nothing burger.这不是什么汉堡
777This is just a hit job, political hit job, and the Democrats are keeping it going just这只是个打工 政治打工 民主党一直坚持下去
778so that he can continue to talk about everything except for his record of why he has made our以便他能继续谈论一切 除了他的记录 他为什么让我们
779life less safe and more expensive.生活没有那么安全 更昂贵
780Thank you very much.谢谢
781Faith, it's your turn to ask a question.费丝 该你提问了
782One of the candidates.某甲考举.
783Thank you, Donna.谢谢你,唐娜。
784Congressman Collins, my next question is for you.柯林斯议员,我下一个问题要问你
785If elected, you will serve alongside Democratic Senator Raphael Warnock, who of course represents如果当选,你将和民主参议员拉斐尔·沃诺克一起任职,他当然代表
786the same families here in Georgia.乔治亚的同一家人
787What specific legislation would you commit to crossing the aisle and working with the你将承诺何种具体立法来跨越过道,与
788Senator on within the first 100 days, even if it means breaking from President Trump参议员在头100天内, 即使这意味着 突破总统特朗普
789and your party?你的派对呢?
790You know, I don't have a specific legislation out there, but you can look at the pieces你知道,我没有具体的立法 在那里,但你可以看的碎片
791of legislation that I've passed, Georgia.我通过的立法,格鲁吉亚。
792Think about this.考虑一下
793I've had two pieces of legislation that were passed and signed into law by two presidents我有两部立法 由两位总统通过并签署成为法律
794of two different parties, and they were both bipartisan.他们都是两党的。
795And as a matter of fact, I had over 46 Democrats that went with me on the Lake and Riley Act事实上,我有超过46个民主党人 和我一起参加湖和莱利法案
796that second time, over 30 the first time.这是第二次, 超过30第一次。
797I don't mind working with anybody.我不介意和别人合作
798I don't care if you're a Republican, Democrat, Independent, I'll be for a dog if they'll我不管你是否是共和党人 民主党人 独立党人 我愿意当狗
799bark from my policy, but we've got to continue to make sure that we set this up.但我们必须继续确保我们设下这个
800The reason I went to Congress in the first place was to make sure that the next generation我之所以去国会 是因为要确保下一代
801has the opportunities that I had because they don't have them right now because of people拥有我拥有的机会 因为他们现在没有机会 因为人
802like John Ossoff, who's out there taking away child care credit, who's out there taking像约翰·奥索夫,谁在那里 拿走儿童保育信贷,谁在那里拿
803away.离开。
804He wanted, he voted against school choice moms.他想,他投票反对 学校选择妈妈。
805Think about that.考虑一下
806He didn't have to worry about that, but you do.他不必担心,但你知道
807And you deserve to have your child's education to be the best.你应该得到你孩子的最好教育
808Thank you.谢谢
809Back to you, Greg.回到你身边,格雷格。
810Senator Ossoff, if Democrats controlled Congress and the White House, would you support adding奥索夫参议员 如果民主党控制国会和白宫 你会支持增加
811justices to the Supreme Court's bench to change the court's ideological balance?最高法院法官 改变法院的思想平衡?
812Greg, I don't rule out any judicial reform, but I think we have to take the long view格雷格,我不排除任何司法改革, 但我认为我们必须采取长远的观点
813whenever we consider anything like that.每当我们考虑 类似的事情。
814And I think our focus should be a binding code of ethics for Supreme Court justices我认为我们的重点应该是 对最高法院法官具有约束力的道德守则
815because the American public is rightly offended when they see Supreme Court justices accepting因为当美国公众看到最高法院法官接受
816lavish gifts from people who have business before the court or from people who have在法庭上有生意的人或有工作的人的慷慨馈赠
817a record of ideological or partisan advocacy.意识形态或党派宣传的记录。
818We also need a much stronger code of ethics in the United States Congress.我们还需要在美国国会制定更强有力的道德守则。
819And that includes Congressman Mike Collins, who continues to deflect day after day in包括迈克·柯林斯议员 他继续日复一日地转移方向
820debate after debate about the federal investigation of his office for the illegal misuse of tax联邦调查他办公室非法滥用税收案后的辩论
821dollars.钱
822Here's something else the Office of Congressional Conduct said.国会行为办公室也这么说
823They said Congressman Collins refused to cooperate and recommended he be subpoenaed.他们说科林斯议员拒绝合作,建议传唤他.
824If you're subpoenaed, will you testify?如果你被传唤,你会作证吗?
825Thirty seconds.30秒钟。
826You know, let's continue down the list here.你知道,让我们继续这里的名单。
827Let's continue down the list about how you've made our life more expensive.我们继续说说你如何让我们的生活更加昂贵
828Because I think this people of the state of Georgia need to know that because all you因为我认为乔治亚州的人需要知道 因为你们所有人
829do is deflect.是偏转。
830Let's talk about high taxes.谈高税.
831You voted for the largest tax increase in U.S. history.你投了美国历史上最大的增税票
832You voted for that binomics, that Green New Deal.你投了那个二进制 绿色新政
833You voted against S corporations.你投票反对S公司。
834You voted against every small business, every farmer in this state when you voted to not你投票反对每一个小生意, 在这个州的每个农民 当你投票反对
835allow 100 percent depreciation on new equipment.允许新设备100%折旧。
836Thank you.谢谢
837Thirty second rebuttal.三秒钟的反驳。
838You didn't answer the question.你没回答问题
839You talk about deflection.你说的是偏移
840It's a very simple question.这是一个非常简单的问题。
841Look, the Office of Congressional Conduct has recommended that you be subpoenaed because国会行为办公室建议传唤你 因为...
842you, quote, refused to cooperate in a federal investigation of your own office.引用你的话 拒绝配合联邦对你自己办公室的调查
843I think it's the fourth time tonight.我想这是今晚第四次了
844It's a very simple question.这是一个非常简单的问题。
845If you are, in fact, subpoenaed by the House Ethics Committee, why can you not just commit如果你被众议院伦理委员会传唤了 为什么不直接做出
846once and for all to testify in the investigation?一劳永逸地在调查中作证?
847Yes or no?是还是不是?
848Will you testify?你会作证吗?
849Answer your voters, Mike.回答你的选民,迈克。
850Thirty second rebuttal.三秒钟的反驳。
851The Office of Congressional Conduct sends it to the Ethics Committee.国会行为办公室将其发送给道德操守委员会。
852And I have fully committed, fully complied with the Ethics Committee.我完全承诺,完全遵守道德操守委员会。
853Anything they got to ask, they're more than welcome to ask me.任何他们需要问, 他们非常欢迎问我。
854As a matter of fact, I encourage them, go ahead, release the files, because this is事实上,我鼓励他们,继续,释放档案,因为这是
855a nothing burger.没什么汉堡
856It is a hit job.这是一个命中工作。
857You see that.你看见了
858That's why he stays on that.所以他才一直这样
859That's why he doesn't want to talk about things like our active military, our veterans, that这就是为什么他不想谈论的东西 像我们的现役军人,我们的退伍军人,
860he has continuously lied to you on his stance on where he has been out there.他一直在欺骗你 他的立场,他在那里。
861Even he'll press conference talking about how he took credit for military increases连他都会在记者招待会上 谈起他如何把军费加薪的功劳
862when he lies about that.当他撒谎的时候
863Thank you, Representative Collins.谢谢,柯林斯议员
864Faith?信仰吗?
865Thank you so much, Donna.谢谢你,唐娜
866Another question.另一个问题。
867Congressman Collins, I do have another question for you.议员 柯林斯,我还有另一个问题要问你
868We've had some horrific shootings here in Georgia, including school shootings and shootings我们在佐治亚州发生了一些可怕的枪击事件 包括学校枪击和枪击
869that we talk about every day on the news.我们每天都在新闻上谈论
870Will you commit to supporting federal background checks for private firearm sales if you're你会承诺支持联邦背景调查 私人枪支销售 如果你是
871elected?当选?
872No, we have plenty of checks right now, and we need to continue to make sure that we protect不,我们现在有很多支票,我们需要 继续确保我们保护
873our Second Amendment.我们的第二修正案。
874We also need to make sure that we protect our students.我们还需要确保保护我们的学生。
875They deserve to be able to go to school and not be worrying about somebody coming in and他们应该能上学 不用担心有人进来
876shooting them.射击他们。
877There's numerous ways that we can do that.我们有很多方法可以做到这一点。
878Whether it's metal detectors at the entrance, I mean, you've got to go through a metal detector无论入口处是金属探测器 你必须通过金属探测器
879to get into the airport, and that's to get on a plane, but we don't want to do that for进入机场, 这是得到飞机, 但我们不想这样做
880our kids and our children out there.我们的孩子和我们的孩子在那里。
881I'll give you another example of things that we can do to protect our children out there.我再举一个例子 来证明我们能保护我们的孩子
882What about former military, our veterans out there?前军人,我们的退伍军人呢?
883They're always looking for another mission.他们总是在寻找另一个任务.
884They would love to be out there to help and make sure that our children have easy access他们很想出去帮忙 保证我们的孩子能轻松接近
885and safe access to their schools so that they can learn, that they get the opportunity.安全进入他们的学校,以便他们能够学习,获得机会。
886And that's the bad thing.且道是恶事.
887That's what I was talking about with school choice.这就是我所说的学校的选择。
888John Ossoff, he went to private schools.约翰·奥索夫,他就读于私立学校.
889He doesn't have to worry about that.他不必担心
890He went to elite Ivy schools in Northeast.曾就读于东北地区的精英常春藤学校.
891Thank you very much.谢谢
892John Ossoff, 30-Second Rebuttal.约翰·奥索夫 30秒答辩
893The question was about background checks for firearm sales.问题在于对枪支销售的背景调查。
894Court after court after court has found that background checks are constitutional.事后法院认定背景调查符合宪法。
895This is like an 80-20 issue, Mike.这就像80 -20期,迈克。
896It's a simple background check before the sale or the transfer of a firearm.枪支销售或转让前的简单背景调查.
897He just said he opposes that.他只是说他反对
898Why?为什么?
899Mike Collins, 30 seconds.麦克柯林斯,30秒
900We already have background checks.我们已经有背景调查了
901When you go into the store to buy a weapon, you have a background check.进店购买武器时,要进行背景调查.
902I've got a concealed carry permit.我有一个隐藏的携带许可。
903I know that for a fact, John.我知道这是事实 约翰
904Thank you very much.谢谢
905Greg, you can ask a question.Greg 你可以问个问题
906Yeah, this question is for both of you, Senator Ossoff, you first.这个问题是你们俩的问题 奥索夫参议员 你先问
907As artificial intelligence replaces more tasks performed by human workers, what should Congress由于人工智能取代了人类工人完成的更多任务,国会应该做什么?
908do to protect Americans whose jobs are threatened?保护工作受到威胁的美国人?
909It is a vital issue, Greg.这是一个至关重要的问题,格雷格。
910It is perhaps the most complex and important legislative question of our time.这也许是我们时代最复杂和最重要的立法问题。
911And here are a few things that we need to do right now.下面是我们现在需要做的几件事。
912We need federal inspectors inside these frontier labs to report honestly and transparently我们需要这些边境实验室的联邦检查员 诚实透明地报告
913to the federal government what's happening without requiring or relying upon voluntary向联邦政府报告正在发生的情况,不要求或依赖自愿
914disclosure from the frontier labs.从前沿实验室透露。
915We need to be fortifying the nation against the threat of bioterrorism.我们需要加强国家抵御生物恐怖主义的威胁。
916That's one of the most significant threats that we face.这是我们面临的最重大的威胁之一。
917And we have to recognize that we cannot allow the Trump administration, which is opposed我们必须承认 我们不能允许川普政府反对
918to any regulation whatsoever, to put jobs at risk or our national security at risk.将工作置于危险之中 或国家安全置于危险之中
919But speaking of artificial intelligence, the same bill that slashed Medicaid, the same但说到人工智能, 同样的法案 削减医疗援助,同样的
920bill that allowed your health insurance premiums to double, included a $70 billion tax break允许你医疗保险费翻一番的法案 包括700亿美元的减税
921for data center developers.用于数据中心开发者。
922Mike didn't answer last week if he'll commit to repeal it.迈克上周没有回答 如果他承诺废除它。
923It's a simple question, Mike.这是一个简单的问题,迈克。
924Will you commit to repealing the $70 billion tax break for data center developers?你会承诺取消数据中心开发商700亿美元的减税吗?
925Thank you.谢谢
926Representative Collins, your answer to Greg's question.柯林斯代表 你对格雷格问题的回答
927Yeah, I think I got it down from you, Greg.是的,我想我得到了它 从你,格雷格。
928I was trying to write that pretty fast.我想写得很快
929Listen, we're in a race.听着,我们在比赛中。
930We're in a race with China, AI.我们在和中国比赛,AI。
931It's coming.来了
932It's already here.它已经在这里。
933We need to make sure that it's for the good, though.我们需要确保这是为好,虽然。
934And the problem is there's a lot of bad actors out there in anything that you have, anything问题是,有很多坏演员 在那里,你有什么,任何东西
935that you do.你这样做。
936So we've got to make sure that, first of all, that the bad actors are held accountable.所以,我们必须确保,首先要追究坏角色的责任.
937But before we even get there, we need to make sure that these data centers are not harming但在我们到达之前,我们需要确保 这些数据中心不会伤害
938the local infrastructure, like the water and electricity.当地的基础设施,如水电。
939They need to pay for the infrastructure.他们需要支付基础设施的费用。
940And if you want a data center in your area, I'm going to help you get it.如果你想在你的区域建立一个数据中心, 我会帮助你得到它。
941And if you don't, I'll make sure that you don't get it.如果你不这样做,我会确保 你没有得到它。
942Thank you very much.谢谢
943We are, I'm going to ask a question.是的,我要问一个问题。
944I know we've talked about the affordability issue a little bit.我知道我们谈了一下可负担性的问题
945The grocery store, gas pump, housing.杂货店 油泵 住房
946People are feeling the affordability pinch.人们感到承受能力受限
947I'd like each one of you to tell me what your plan is to help Georgians when it comes to我希望你们每个人告诉我 你们的计划是帮助格鲁吉亚人
948this.这个
949And we'll begin with you, Senator Ossoff.我们从你开始 奥索夫参议员
950Thank you, Donna.谢谢你,唐娜。
951Look, first things first, we're going to repeal the tariffs that have driven grocery prices听着,首先,我们要取消 推动杂货价格的关税
952to their record high.在他们的记录最高。
953We're going to end the disastrous war Mike Collins supported that has triggered a global我们要结束麦克柯林斯支持的灾难性战争 这场战争引发了一场全球战争
954energy crisis and driven diesel to its all-time high.能源危机和推动柴油达到历史最高水平。
955And we're going to repeal the Medicaid cuts and the cuts that allowed health insurance我们要废除医疗补助的削减 和允许医疗保险的削减
956premiums to double for more than a million Georgians.100多万格鲁吉亚人的保险费翻一番。
957It's the same bill that cut Medicaid that took that money from your health care and是同一份削减医疗补助的法案 从你的医疗保健中拿走了这笔钱
958gave it to data center developers.提供给数据中心开发者。
959You just heard Mike Collins say that data center developers should pay their own way.你刚刚听到迈克柯林斯说 数据中心开发者应该自己付钱
960Then why did you vote to give them $70 billion of taxpayer funding?那你为什么要投票给他们700亿美元的纳税人资金?
961And will you commit to repealing that provision?你承诺废除这条规定吗?
962Thank you.谢谢
963Representative Collins, your answer to your plan for affordability.柯林斯代表,你对负担计划的答复
964Yes, ma'am.是,长官
965You know, we're going to continue down the road of energy independence.你知道,我们将继续沿着能源独立的道路前进。
966That's the number one thing that we can do, is make sure that we produce our own products这是最重要的事情,我们可以做的, 确保我们生产自己的产品
967right here and that we don't have to depend on all these foreign countries that hate us在这里,我们不必依赖那些讨厌我们的外国
968to send us their oil or their finished products.送我们的石油或成品。
969Things that we haven't built the refinery in over 50 years, thank goodness that the我们50多年没有建炼油厂了 谢天谢地
970Trump administration fast-tracked the Baytown Texas refinery so that we can do that.特朗普政府快速推进了贝城德克萨斯炼油厂,以便我们能够做到这一点.
971We've got to get health care under control.我们必须控制好医疗状况。
972Folks are struggling with health care.人们在保健方面挣扎。
973Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, has been a disaster.奥巴马护理, 负担得起的护理法案, 是一个灾难。
974I know the first year that Obamacare was enacted, my insurance went up 62%.我知道奥巴马护理的第一年, 我的保险增加了62%。
975We've got to get back to where health care is meant for the patient, that they have control我们得回到病人的医疗保健位置 他们有控制权
976over it.过它。
977Not these health insurances are getting rich out there off our backs.这些健康保险不是靠我们发财的
978Thank you very much, gentlemen.非常感谢各位
979That is all the time we have for questions.这是我们所有的时间提问。
980Now the candidates will have 60 seconds for a closing statement, and Mike Collins, we现在候选人有60秒的闭幕词 迈克柯林斯,我们
981will start with you.从你开始
982Oh, okay.哦,还好。
983I thought we went backwards.我以为我们往后走
984Yeah.对
985We're going to you first.我们先去找你
986Okay.摆
987All right.好吧,我们走。
988You know, Georgia, I wish we could have spent more time debating our record and debating乔治亚,我希望我们能花更多的时间 辩论我们的记录和辩论
989our results, but John Ossoff, he can't do that.我们的结果,但约翰・奥索夫, 他不能做到这一点。
990You see, while I delivered the largest tax cuts in U.S. history, brought home more than你看,当我交付了美国历史上最大的减税, 带回家比
991$200 million for Georgia rural hospitals, and wrote the law, the Lake and Raleigh Act,2亿美元给佐治亚州农村医院 并写了法律,湖和拉利法案,
992which has removed over 20,000 illegal criminals from our streets, John Ossoff worked againstJohn Ossoff在街上打击了两万多名非法罪犯
993us.我们
994I mean, he spent his time in Washington focused on how he could defund our greatest ally Israel,我的意思是,他在华盛顿度过的时间 专注于他如何解脱 我们最大的盟友以色列,
995how he could block our farmers from getting that critical aid, all to just try to defund他怎么能阻止我们的农民 得到关键的援助, 所有只是试图退钱
996and ICE, and how he could impress his donors that don't even care about our state or represent以及他如何打动他的捐献者 他们甚至不在乎我们的国家或代表
997our values.我们的价值观。
998John Ossoff是个不在乎乔治亚的人
999He's just telling us these things because he's using this as a platform.他只是在说这些 因为他用这个作为平台
1000Georgians are hardworking people, and we deserve a Senator that will work as hard as us for格鲁吉亚人是辛勤工作的人,我们应该有一位参议员 为我们努力工作
1001us.我们
1002And I need your help.我需要你的帮助
1003I need your vote.我需要你的投票。
1004Thank you.谢谢
1005Y'all send me to the Senate, and I'll continue to deliver.你们把我送到参议院去 我继续送货
1006I'll deliver for us.我会送我们。
1007Thank you very much.谢谢
1008We are ready for your closing statement, Senator Ossoff.我们准备好你的闭幕词了 奥索夫参议员
1009Well, Donna, first of all, thank you for moderating.好了,唐娜,首先,谢谢你的温和。
1010Thank you to our panelists.感谢我们的小组成员。
1011Thank you to the Atlanta Press Club and Georgia Public Broadcasting.感谢亚特兰大新闻俱乐部和乔治亚公共广播.
1012Most of all, thank you to the people of the great state of Georgia for the privilege of最重要的是,感谢 伟大的格鲁吉亚人民 的特权
1013representing you in the Senate.在参议院代表你
1014And I want you to know that I will always stand up to powerful interests on your behalf.我希望你知道 我将永远代表你 面对强大的利益
1015When state officials here were denying the abuse of foster kids in Georgia, I investigated当这里的国家官员否认格鲁吉亚虐待寄养儿童时,我调查了
1016it, I exposed it, and then I passed a bipartisan bill to crack down on child trafficking.它,我暴露了它, 然后我通过了一个两党法案 打击贩卖儿童。
1017When drug companies were ripping Georgians off for insulin, I stood up to the pharmaceutical当制药公司撕裂格鲁吉亚人 胰岛素,我站起来药
1018industry and capped the cost of insulin at $35 on Medicare.将胰岛素费用上限为35美元
1019And when big tech companies were allowing child predators to run rampant on their platforms,当大科技公司允许儿童掠食者 在他们的平台上肆虐时
1020I wrote and passed a bipartisan law forcing them to report child predators to the authorities.我写了一部两党法律,
1021Early voting opened today.投票提前开始
1022您可以在 iwillvote.com 找到投票地点。
1023I hope I've earned your support, and thank you so much.我希望我赢得了你们的支持 非常感谢你
1024Thank you.谢谢
1025Early voting is underway and runs through Friday, October 30th.10月30日星期五开始投票。
1026Election day is Tuesday, November 3rd.选举日为11月3日星期二.
1027We thank all the candidates and our panel of journalists.我们感谢所有候选人和我们的记者小组。
1028We'd also like to thank the Atlanta Press Club and Georgia Public Broadcasting for arranging我们也要感谢亚特兰大新闻俱乐部和佐治亚公共广播
1029today's debate.今日辩论.
1030I'm Donna Lowry.我是唐娜·劳瑞
1031Thanks for joining us for the Atlanta Press Club, Loud or Milk, Young debate series.谢谢你加入我们 亚特兰大新闻俱乐部 大声还是牛奶 青年辩论系列
1032Tingo!丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈
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