鲁比奥在七国集团外长会议上向媒体发表讲话 | 2026.11

鲁比奥在七国集团外长会议上向媒体发表讲话 | 2026.11.10 | 美剧级别字幕

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时间	英文	中文
0:04	How were your talks today, Mr. Secretary?	你今天的谈话怎么样,部长先生?
0:06	Which ones?	哪一个?
0:06	We talked a lot today.	我们今天聊了很多
0:08	No, but did you mention at all the Ukraine issue with the other ministers?	没有,但你有没有提到乌克兰的问题和其他部长?
0:13	Well, no, because, I mean, obviously people bring it up when they come, but that'll be	嗯,不,因为,我的意思是,很明显, 人们提出,当他们来,
0:16	on the docket tomorrow.	明天的日程安排上
0:18	That's part of the program.	这是计划的一部分。
0:19	So today they focused on SI, we focused on global conflicts other than Ukraine and other	因此,今天他们专注于SI, 我们专注于全球冲突除了乌克兰和其他
0:25	than the Middle East, and then those are going to be breakout sessions tomorrow, separate	和中东, 然后这些将是明天的分组会议,分开
0:28	sessions tomorrow.	明天开庭

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序号	英文	中文
1	How were your talks today, Mr. Secretary?	你今天的谈话怎么样,部长先生?
2	Which ones?	哪一个?
3	We talked a lot today.	我们今天聊了很多
4	No, but did you mention at all the Ukraine issue with the other ministers?	没有,但你有没有提到乌克兰的问题和其他部长?
5	Well, no, because, I mean, obviously people bring it up when they come, but that'll be	嗯,不,因为,我的意思是,很明显, 人们提出,当他们来,
6	on the docket tomorrow.	明天的日程安排上
7	That's part of the program.	这是计划的一部分。
8	So today they focused on SI, we focused on global conflicts other than Ukraine and other	因此,今天他们专注于SI, 我们专注于全球冲突除了乌克兰和其他
9	than the Middle East, and then those are going to be breakout sessions tomorrow, separate	和中东, 然后这些将是明天的分组会议,分开
10	sessions tomorrow.	明天开庭
11	But obviously there's a lot of people asking about that, as you know, our team, as I haven't	但很明显,有很多人问关于这一点,你知道, 我们的团队,因为我没有
12	had a chance to speak to them yet, but Jared and Steve are in Abu Dhabi today on the trilateral	但贾里德和史蒂夫今天在阿布扎比
13	talks.	说话
14	So hopefully we'll have a good report here soon and be able to share that with you tomorrow.	希望我们很快能收到一份好的报告并且明天能和大家分享
15	And we'll see how that goes.	我们看看情况如何
16	Mr. Kushner is in favor of, I mean, he mentioned specifically that it would be a good idea	库什纳先生赞成,我是说,他特别提到,这将是一个好主意。
17	to have direct European talks with Russia.	与俄罗斯进行直接的欧洲会谈。
18	Is that an idea, do you think it's good?	你认为这是个好主意吗?
19	Well, we've never been against it.	我们从没反对过
20	It's been the Russians that haven't wanted that, right?	是俄国人不想要的,对吧?
21	To this point, but they're there, the national security advisors for, I believe, Germany,	此时此刻,但他们在那里, 国家安全顾问,我相信,德国,
22	the UK and France are in Abu Dhabi, although I don't believe they're at the table at this	英国和法国在阿布扎比虽然我不相信他们能出席
23	moment.	等会儿
24	But nonetheless, they've been involved, they've been involved in all the meetings in Shell	但不管怎样,他们都参与了在壳牌上的所有会议
25	Bay as well down in Florida.	佛罗里达湾也有
26	So sure, I mean, ultimately it would be a positive, but we've got a ways to go.	所以,我的意思是,最终这将是一个积极的, 但我们有一条路要走。
27	But it's good that they're talking, it's good that the trilateral talks are on again.	但是,他们说话是好事,三边会谈又开始了.
28	It's better than not having talks.	总比不说话好
29	Obviously, it has to produce something, and as you know, it's been difficult to get anything	很明显,它必须产生一些东西, 而且你知道,它一直很难得到任何东西
30	productive out of that.	生产出来。
31	But we'll keep trying.	但我们会继续努力的
32	And that's what we've been trying to do the whole time, is try to be creative and find	这就是我们一直试图做的, 是尝试创造性和寻找
33	ways that we can help bring that conflict and that war to an end.	能够帮助结束冲突和战争的方法。
34	秘书先生,Kayakalis今天,
35	Look at the blue, look at that suit, blue.	看那蓝色,看那件西装,蓝色
36	That's Gator blue.	这是盖特蓝。
37	I like it.	我喜欢
38	Go ahead.	来吧。
39	Thank you.	谢谢
40	Kayakalis today said she wasn't hopeful for these Abu Dhabi talks because Russia has	Kayakalis今天说,她对阿布扎比会谈没有希望,因为俄罗斯已经
41	shown no sign that it's willing to negotiate in good faith.	没有迹象表明它愿意真诚地谈判。
42	Doesn't she have a point?	她有道理吗?
43	Every time that the U.S. has offered economic inducements to Russia or re-engaged, they've	每当美国向俄罗斯提供经济诱导或重新投入,他们都
44	just responded with more bombing campaigns in Ukraine.	刚刚在乌克兰发动了更多轰炸行动
45	Well, look, we're just going to keep trying, I mean, in terms of – I can totally tell	好吧,你看,我们只是要去继续尝试,我的意思是,在-- 我可以完全分辨
46	you that your chances of success are zero if you're not trying.	如果你没有尝试,你的成功机会是0。
47	So we're going to continue to try.	所以我们要继续尝试。
48	We seem to be the only country in the world, and the President, the only leader in the	我们似乎是世界上唯一的国家, 总统,唯一的领导人
49	world that can get the Russians and the Ukrainians to the same table.	可以让俄罗斯和乌克兰人坐到同一桌
50	But we recognize it will not be easy to reach an end to this.	但是,我们承认要结束这种情况并不容易。
51	If it was easy, we would have done it a year and a half ago.	如果很简单的话,我们一年半前就会这样做了。
52	This war is almost on its – going into its sixth year in February.	这场战争即将到来 — — 2月进入第六年。
53	So we understand the difficulty of it, but I think the President deserves credit and	因此,我们理解它的困难,但我认为总统值得称赞和
54	his team deserves credit for the amount of time they put into this, despite the fact	他的团队值得称赞他们投入的时间,尽管事实
55	that it hasn't proven productive to this point.	还没有证明它生产到这一点。
56	At some point, this war will end, and it will end, we all believe, through a negotiated	在某些时候,这场战争将会结束, 我们都相信,通过谈判达成
57	agreement.	协议。
58	And so we're going to keep trying, and that's what's going on today and over the next	所以我们要继续努力, 这就是今天和接下来
59	couple of days.	两天。
60	But yeah, no, I mean, I think if we don't try, the chances of it working are zero.	但是,不,我的意思是,我认为如果我们不尝试, 它工作的机会是零。
61	Mr. Secretary, on Jensen Huang, the President has said today that he thinks he should stay	秘书先生,关于黄詹森,总统今天说过他认为他应该留下
62	作为NVIDIA的负责人。
63	The company says there's an investigation.	公司称有调查.
64	How important is it that there's a thorough investigation, in your view?	你认为彻底调查有多重要?
65	I'm not going to comment on it as an internal corporate matter for them, so I'm just not	我不打算评论这是他们内部的公司事务, 所以我只是不
66	going to comment on that topic.	将评论这个话题。
67	Will he be judging the President's election?	他会在评选总统吗?
68	I'm not going to judge him.	我不会审判他的
69	You have to ask the White House.	须问白宫.
70	I'm not, you know, I don't handle that part of our operation, but I just can't comment.	我不是,你知道,我不处理我们行动的一部分, 但我只是不能评论。
71	I'm not going to comment at all on the NVIDIA thing.	我根本不会评论NVIDIA的事
72	You're not going to comment as a national security concern?	你不打算评论国家安全吗?
73	I'm just not going to comment on it.	我只是不想评论它。
74	Can I ask you two?	我能问你们俩吗?
75	I think there'll be room.	我想还有地方
76	And I can't.	我却不能.
77	And I'm not going to, so go ahead.	我不会的,所以继续吧。
78	Really quick questions.	问得真快
79	And I know that you've said over and over again that everyone...	我知道你一再说每个人都...
80	You said you have two very quick questions.	你说你有两个非常快的问题
81	Yeah, definitely.	当然
82	Okay, you're going to get, like, one very quick answer.	好吧,你会得到一样, 一个非常快的答案。
83	Go ahead.	来吧。
84	I'm sure.	我当然知道
85	I'm kidding.	我开玩笑的
86	Go ahead.	来吧。
87	That other countries understand how the U.S. government works and democracy works.	其他国家也明白美国政府是如何运作和民主的.
88	We had at least two, maybe three foreign ministers today say, yeah, there are questions about	我们至少有两个,也许三个外交部长今天说, 是的,有关于
89	whether the midterms are going to change the administration's position or strategy on it.	中期计划是否会改变政府的立场或战略。
90	I understand from some of your aides that this didn't actually come up in conversations	我从你的一些助手那里了解到这其实不是在对话中发生的
91	with you, but you are aware that there are questions about whether this is going to have	但你们知道这是否
92	a...	一个...
93	Yeah, but I just don't know why that's relevant.	是啊,但我只是不知道为什么与此有关。
94	I mean, the foreign policy will be what it is.	我的意思是,外交政策就是它是什么。
95	And so we're not very mysterious about it.	所以我们对此并不十分神秘。
96	I think this is a pretty forward-leaning administration.	我认为这是一个相当前卫的政府。
97	What I pointed out to you yesterday, I'll point it out again today, and that is I've	我昨天告诉你的,我今天会再次指出,那就是我
98	been involved in this for a little while now, and while obviously Congress has a role to	虽然国会显然可以扮演
99	play in our foreign policy, it is the administration at the executive branch that leads American	在外交政策中扮演主角的是行政部门领导美国
100	foreign policy and frankly sets it.	外交政策并坦率地加以规定。
101	And when we had Democratic presidents and I was in the Senate, I was reminded of that	当我们有民主党主席,我在参议院时, 我被提醒
102	on many occasions.	在很多场合。
103	We had opinions about foreign policy.	我们对外交政策有意见。
104	We tried to influence the foreign policy.	我们试图影响外交政策。
105	But who is the president will largely determine the direction your country goes with regards	但是谁是总统将决定你们国家的方向
106	to foreign policy.	对外交政策的影响。
107	And that's the way it's historically been in American history.	这也是历史上在美国历史上一直采用的方式.
108	That's the way the Constitution is set up.	宪法就是这样制定的.
109	So again, look, Congress has a role to play in our foreign policy, particularly in what	再说一遍,国会在我们外交政策中有着一定的作用,特别是在什么方面
110	it funds and in its oversight function.	它提供资金并履行其监督职能。
111	But the number one factor in determining the foreign policy of the United States has always	但决定美国外交政策的首要因素
112	been and will remain the president of the United States.	永远是美国总统
113	And then secondly, just because you mentioned it in your tweet about your meeting with the	第二,只是因为你在推特上提到了你和那个
114	French foreign minister and a couple other foreign ministers mentioned it as well, the	法国外交部长和其他几位外交部长也提到了这一点。
115	ICC issue.	国际商会问题。
116	Yeah, we raise it everywhere we go, and that is the ICC as a court that continues to claim	是的,我们把它在任何地方,我们去, 这是国际刑事法院作为一个法院继续声称
117	– elements of it continue to claim that they have jurisdiction over individuals from	- 其内容继续声称,他们对来自下列地点的个人拥有管辖权:
118	countries that are not members of that treaty.	非该条约缔约国的国家。
119	And we've tried for a year and a half to get them to reform a nice way, and they haven't	我们尝试了一年半让他们改过自新
120	been willing to do so.	愿意这样做。
121	So we'll have to try a different approach.	所以我们得尝试另一种方法。
122	What have you told the Europeans will happen or may happen if they go ahead and vote to	你告诉过欧洲人,如果他们投票的话, 会发生什么?
123	Well, we've already – well, I'm not going to talk about what we might do or not	好了,我们已经 - 好了,我不打算谈论我们可能做什么或不
124	do as a result of it.	这样做的结果。
125	Suffice it to say that we believe we can inflict tremendous damage on the ICC unless they see	只要说,我们认为,除非他们看到,否则我们可以对国际刑事法院造成巨大损害。
126	the error of their ways.	他们的行为错误。
127	Secretary, a member of the Republican Party, Thomas Massie, minutes ago introduced a measure	秘书,共和党党员托马斯·马西几分钟前提出措施
128	to impeach Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth as the person who coordinates the interagency	弹劾国防部长Pete Hegseth 作为协调机构间工作的人
129	policy regarding U.S. national security.	美国国家安全政策。
130	Do you have a view regarding Secretary Hegseth's performance as Secretary of Defense?	你对黑格塞斯部长作为国防部长的表现有看法吗?
131	I think he's done a great job.	我觉得他做得很好
132	I mean, I've worked with him every single day on many of these topics.	我每天都和他一起研究这些话题
133	I've seen the work he does and the professionalism he brings to it.	我见过他的工作和他带来的专业精神。
134	He's very smart.	他很聪明
135	He works very hard.	他非常努力地工作。
136	He puts a lot of hours into this.	他花了很多时间
137	And on all the policy issues we've worked on together, I think he's done a very good	我们一起研究的政策问题我觉得他做得很好
138	job.	任务。
139	关于AI或SAI...
140	How concerning is it to you, however, that it was Republican who introduced these articles	但是,对于你来说,是共和党提出这些文章有什么关系?
141	of impeachment against...	弹劾...
142	I think it's unfair.	我觉得这不公平
143	Yeah, look, I think Pete's done a good job.	是的,你看,我觉得皮特做的很好。
144	I really do.	我真的喜欢
145	Again, I work with him, and so I see perhaps a side of him that the media doesn't see and	再说一次,我和他一起工作, 所以我看到了也许他的一面媒体看不到,
146	members of Congress may not see.	国会议员不得看见.
147	But I think Pete works really hard.	但我觉得皮特很努力
148	He's incredibly smart.	他很聪明
149	I think he's not just on the issues that we've worked on together and the execution of it,	我觉得他不只是我们一起研究的问题以及执行的问题
150	but if you think about it, I mean, he's carried out multiple...	但是如果你考虑一下,我的意思是,他执行过多次...
151	The Department of War and the Pentagon, in particular, has been responsible for many	特别是战争部和五角大楼一直负责很多
152	of the important things this administration's working on, whether it's our counter cartel	无论是我们的反卡特尔
153	coalitions that we have going on in the Western Hemisphere, he's done a great job with that.	我们西半球的联盟, 他做了一个伟大的工作。
154	I think the performance, the damage that was inflicted on the Iranian military structures,	我认为表现, 对伊朗军事结构造成的损害,
155	they have no Navy, they have no Air Force.	他们没有海军没有空军
156	They're deeply degraded from a military standpoint.	从军事角度来说,它们已经严重退化了
157	They still retain capabilities, obviously, but they are very degraded from where they	显然,它们仍然保留着能力,但是它们从那里退化得非常严重。
158	were a year ago at this time.	是一年前的这个时候。
159	I think the operation they conducted to capture a fugitive of American justice, Nicolas Maduro,	我认为他们的行动抓捕一个逃犯美国司法,尼古拉马杜罗,
160	was carried out impeccably.	被无懈可击地执行。
161	So I think from the perspective that I sit in and the seat that I'm in as the National	所以我想,从我坐和我的座位作为全国
162	Security Advisor and Secretary of State for that matter, Pete has done a very good job.	此事的安全顾问兼国务卿皮特做得很好
163	He really has.	他确实有。
164	But obviously, politics are politics and people can have different views, but I can tell you	但很明显,政治是政治,人们可以有不同的观点, 但我可以告诉你
165	my perspective from where I sit.	我的观点从我坐的地方。
166	Can you talk about the discussions you had on AI or SI?	你能谈谈你在AI或SI上的讨论吗?
167	There's been a big...	有个大...
168	Well, they call it AI.	他们称之为AI
169	We call it SI.	我们称之为SI。
170	No, look, we had a conversation about it.	不听着我们谈过了
171	I think the point I made in that conversation was, on the one hand, it's going to happen.	我认为我在那次谈话中提出的要点是,一方面,它将会发生.
172	There's no way to stop any technological advance like SI throughout history is going to happen.	没有办法阻止任何科技进步像SI 在整个历史将发生。
173	And it's going to have tremendous benefits.	它将带来巨大的好处。
174	There are good things about it.	有诸善根.
175	They're going to make us more productive, make individuals more productive, and improve	它们会让我们更有生产力, 使个人更有生产力,改善
176	the quality of all kinds of things.	各种东西的质量。
177	It also has some real dangers associated with it.	它也有一些真正的危险。
178	One of the dangers people focus on is what happens if these models become independent	人们关注的危险之一是,如果这些模型独立,会发生什么?
179	of human control and end up taking independent actions that are harmful.	最终采取有害的独立行动。
180	But there are other dangers to it.	但还有其他危险。
181	Even if it's not a frontier model, just a good AI program that's good enough or an SI	即使它不是一个前沿模型, 只是一个好的AI程序足够好或者SI
182	program that's good enough in the hands of a malign actor can allow them to do things	在恶性演员的手中足够好的程序可以让他们做一些事情
183	that in the past malign actors couldn't do.	过去恶作剧的演员是做不到的。
184	You worry about how it can be used to create biological and chemical weapons, how to do	你担心它会用来制造生化武器,如何做
185	cyber attacks on infrastructure and carry out acts of violence or acts of terrorism	对基础设施的网络攻击以及实施暴力或恐怖主义行为
186	that could have a huge cost.	可能要花大钱
187	I think we need to speak more as well about the disruptive nature that's going to have	我想我们需要多谈谈破坏性的性质将会有
188	on our economy.	我们的经济。
189	I think there will be economic benefits to SI.	我认为职业介绍所会有经济效益。
190	I also think it will displace potentially certain industry and workers the way automation	我也认为它会取代某些行业和工人的自动化方式
191	did, the way globalization did.	就像全球化那样
192	We need to prepare for that as well.	我们也需要为此做好准备。
193	So these are all things that we have to figure out a way to maximize the benefits of SI,	因此,这些都是所有的事情,我们必须想出一个方法最大化SI的好处,
194	but also mitigate the potential dangers.	但也减轻了潜在的危险
195	This is true of any new technology.	任何新技术都是如此。
196	The difference between this one and the ones in the past is this one is developing so much	这个和过去的区别在于这个发展得如此之大
197	faster than any other technology we've ever seen.	比我们见过的任何其他技术都要快
198	I mean, literally every three or two months what you did two months ago becomes obsolete.	我的意思是,实际上每三两个月你做了什么两个月前变得过时。
199	The pace of it is moving so fast that it's a tremendous challenge to try to regulate	它的速度如此之快以至于它是一个巨大的挑战试图管理
200	or control something that's developing faster than your ability to keep up with it.	或控制的东西发展的速度比你的能力跟上它。
201	So it's a real global challenge, but it's also one that the U.S. is going through.	因此,这是一个真正的全球性挑战,但这也是美国正在经历的挑战.
202	And it's a balance between trying to mitigate its dangers and trying not to stifle innovation	这是在努力减轻其危险和不扼杀创新之间
203	and advances.	和进步。
204	And it's a work in progress to figure out how to handle that.	并且它是一个正在进行中的工作找出如何处理。
205	Does the regulatory approach being pushed by European governments at the summit, do	欧洲各国政府在首脑会议上推动的监管办法是否
206	you think it does strike that balance?	你觉得这能达到平衡吗?
207	No.	没有
208	I mean, we're very concerned about these global institutions trying to regulate something	我的意思是,我们非常担心这些全球性机构试图管理的东西
209	that would stifle innovation.	这将扼杀创新。
210	So we don't think that's the right approach from our perspective.	因此,我们认为从我们的角度来说,这不是正确的方法.
211	I wasn't on it today because I was here, but there was a phone call that I believe heads	我今天没有参加,因为我在这里, 但有一个电话,我相信头
212	of state were on, and Secretary Besson represented us on that call, and he expressed the same	贝松国务卿代表我们响应了这个呼吁他表达了同样的看法
213	sentiment on it.	对它的感觉。
214	Mr. Secretary, I was wondering if you had any information – apparently the French	部长先生,我想知道你有没有消息... 显然是法国人
215	Foreign Minister – I don't know if he told you with –	外交部长,我不知道他有没有告诉你...
216	Talk about the refrigeration attack?	说说冷冻攻击的事?
217	Exactly, the cyber attacks.	没错网络攻击
218	Yeah, he's mentioned that.	是的,他提到了这一点。
219	Well, we knew they were going to announce that today, yeah.	我们知道他们今天会宣布这个
220	And they said that it was the Revolutionary Guard in France.	他们说是法国的革命卫队
221	I mean, why is that surprising to anyone?	我的意思是,为什么这是令人惊讶的任何人?
222	The IRGC has been conducting acts of terrorism and sabotage around the world for a long time.	伊斯兰革命卫队长期以来在世界各地从事恐怖主义和破坏活动。
223	That's like breaking news.	这就像突发新闻。
224	The IRGC is a bad group of people.	伊斯兰革命卫队是一群坏人。
225	That's why we sanctioned them.	这就是为什么我们批准他们。
226	That's why we consider them terrorists.	所以我们才认为他们是恐怖分子
227	On this specific issue, did the United States share any information, or did you –	关于这个具体问题,美国是否分享过任何信息,或者你,
228	Well, I can't comment on what we shared or didn't share.	好吧,我不能评论我们分享或没有分享。
229	The French are quite capable, certainly as well, in their own intelligence field.	法国人在自己的情报领域也很有能力
230	But suffice it to say that, you know, they put out there today these – I mean, we're	但是,只要说,你知道, 他们今天放出这些-- 我的意思是,我们
231	kind of sickos.	有点变态
232	Are these people?	是这些人吗?
233	They attack refrigerators.	他们攻击冰箱。
234	France is not even involved in this, really.	法国甚至没有参与此事,真的。
235	I mean, if you think about it, I mean – and yet they got attacked nonetheless, because	我的意思是,如果你考虑一下,我的意思是 - 但他们还是被攻击了,因为
236	this is what you're dealing with.	这就是你面对的
237	You're dealing with a deranged group of revolutionaries.	你在对付一群疯狂的革命者
238	The Iranian people are great people.	伊朗人民是伟大的人民。
239	I've said this – go back to my hearing when I was being nominated Secretary of State,	回到我被提名为国务卿的听证会上
240	and I talked about how great Iran is and how great its people are and how different	我谈到了伊朗多么伟大多么伟大的伊朗人民多么不同
241	the Iranian people are from the small core of violent maniacs that govern them.	伊朗人民是统治他们的暴力疯子的小核心。
242	It's very sick.	其病甚重.
243	And these people are very sick.	这些人病得很重
244	And they're very bad people, and they do terrible things around the world.	他们是坏人,他们在世界各地做可怕的事情。
245	They've been doing terrible things now since 1979, so it doesn't surprise us.	他们从1979年就开始做可怕的事情,所以我们并不感到惊讶.
246	And so obviously the – you know, so the news today doesn't surprise us.	很明显,你知道,今天的新闻对我们来说并不奇怪。
247	They've done things like this for a very long time.	他们这样做很久了
248	Mr. Secretary, can I just follow up on the question of the ICC?	秘书先生,我能继续讨论国际刑事法院的问题吗?
249	Because Kaia Calles today said that she – they had spoken to you about their continued support	因为凯亚今天的Calles说,她, 他们已经告诉你他们的继续支持
250	for the court, didn't seem to be budging on your demands.	对于法庭, 似乎没有萌芽你的要求。
251	And I'm just trying to clarify, is your demand – I mean, it's one thing saying	我只是想澄清一下,这是你的要求-- 我的意思是,这是一件事
252	you want to guarantee that the U.S. will not be investigated.	你想保证美国不会受到调查
253	But is the demand that nationals in any country that are not signatories to the Rome Statute	但要求未签署《罗马规约》的任何国家的国民
254	not –	没有 -
255	Well, I care about America.	我关心的是美国
256	Okay, bottom line is we're not going to have some American servicemen or American	好吧,底线是,我们不会有一些美国军人或美国人
257	military commander standing trial at some illegitimate court that we're not a member	军事指挥官在一个非法法庭受审我们不是成员
258	of.	页:1
259	It's as simple as that.	就这么简单
260	And by the way, no one raised it with me.	顺便说一句没人跟我提起过
261	I don't know if she told you.	我不知道她有没有告诉你
262	I don't know why she would tell you that, because she didn't raise it with me, and	我不知道为什么她会告诉你, 因为她没有跟我提起它,
263	no one raised it with me.	没人跟我提起过
264	But they can if they want to, and I'll tell them exactly what I'm telling you now.	但是如果他们愿意,他们可以, 我会告诉他们我现在所说的话。
265	They want to join that thing.	他们想加入那玩意
266	They can be a part of it.	他们可以成为其中的一部分。
267	What's never going to happen is no American service member is ever going to be arrested	永远不会发生的事情是美国服务会员永远不会被逮捕
268	20 years from now because they were the fighter pilot in some operation that was conducted	20年后,因为他们是某次作战的战斗机飞行员
269	in a country that they claimed jurisdiction over.	在他们声称拥有管辖权的国家。
270	It's just not – we're not going to tolerate that.	我们不会容忍的
271	And this is, by the way, a longstanding thing.	顺便说一句,这是一件很长的事情。
272	This is not new.	这不是新的。
273	This was – there have been debates about this domestically in the United States since	美国国内一直对此进行辩论,
274	2004, and it's been going on ever since.	2004年,并一直沿用至今.
275	We're finally going to deal with it, because that court is drifting further and further	我们终于要处理这件事了因为法庭越走越远
276	into a territory that's – into ideas that are simply not acceptable to the national	成为国家无法接受的思想
277	interest of the United States.	美国的利益。
278	So I care – I know you're asking about other countries.	所以我在乎,我知道你在问其他国家
279	I'm telling you, I work for America, and I care about what it would mean for Americans.	我告诉你,我为美国工作, 我关心这对美国人意味着什么。
280	But if you look at someone like Duterte who's in custody, you know, to be claimed to that	但是如果你看着像Dutterte这样的人被拘押了,你知道的, 被宣称为
281	case, it could be –	说不定是...
282	Duterte is not an American.	杜特特不是美国人
283	So, you know, that's the case, and they're doing – I'm focused on the impact this	所以,你知道,这就是事实, 他们正在做—— 我专注于这个影响
284	could have on Americans.	可能会有美国人。
285	I work for the United States of America.	我为美国工作
286	We may agree or disagree with the way the ICC has expressed its jurisdiction in other	我们可能同意或不同意国际刑事法院在其他方面表达其管辖权的方式。
287	places.	地点
288	We just view it as precedent for what they may want to do to an American in the future.	我们只是把它视为他们将来可能想对一个美国人做的事的先例。
289	That's what we're focused on.	这就是我们所关注的。
290	But as regards to Israel, the warrants against Netanyahu – because the President has mentioned	但关于以色列,针对内塔尼亚胡的逮捕令——因为总统提到
291	that, obviously.	很明显
292	Yeah, we think it's an illegit – Israel is also not an enemy.	是的,我们认为这是个错误 —— 以色列也不是敌人。
293	But today is Netanyahu.	但今天是内塔尼亚胡。
294	Tomorrow it will be an American.	明天是美国人
295	So –	这么说
296	But has peace been enacted as well?	但和平是否也已经颁布?
297	Again, it's not about the individuals.	再说一遍,这跟个人无关
298	It's about their claim of jurisdiction over countries that are not members of the treaty.	这是关于他们声称对非条约成员国的国家拥有管辖权.
299	If we wanted to be under their jurisdiction, we would have – we would have joined.	如果我们想被他们管辖,我们就会加入。
300	We didn't join.	我们没有加入。
301	We're not a member.	我们不是会员
302	There are questions today about the future of the Republican Party.	今天有人质疑共和党的未来.
303	You have in the past said that if Vice President J.D.	过去你说过如果副总统J. D.
304	Vance –	万斯 - 温斯 -
305	I'm not – I don't know why you're wasting your time talking – I'm not going to talk	我不知道为什么你在浪费时间我不会说话的
306	You would be the first to support his candidacy.	你是第一个支持他参选的
307	Does that stand today?	今天可以吗?
308	I'm not going to talk about 2028 any longer.	我不会再谈2028了
309	I'm just not going to talk about 2028 anymore.	我只是不想再谈2028了
310	But I'm just asking you about a comment you've made in the past.	但我只是问你你过去的评论。
311	And I'm just telling you this.	我只是告诉你这一点。
312	Okay, here's my answer.	好吧,这是我的答案。
313	You ready?	你准备好了吗?
314	I'm not going to discuss 2028.	我不会讨论2028年。
315	I'm not going to discuss it in any form or fashion.	我不会以任何形式或方式讨论它。
316	But thank you.	谢谢你
317	But why discuss it months ago and not today?	但为什么几个月前,今天才讨论?
318	I'm just curious.	我只是有点好奇
319	Because I have that choice.	因为我有这个选择。
320	I can make it.	我可以做到这一点。
321	There's things that – someone might not talk about it anymore.	有些事情,有人可能不再谈论它。
322	You can make a choice about if you want to run for president or not.	你可以做一个选择如果你想竞选总统与否。
323	That's what you're saying?	你这么说?
324	I can make a choice.	我可以做一个选择。
325	I told you I'm not going to answer that question.	我说过我不会回答这个问题的
326	You can ask it 84 days and you're not going to get it.	能问八十四日而无所得.
327	Not even.	甚至没有。
328	I'm not going to talk about it.	亦不说.
329	So you can ask it, but I'm not going to answer it because I'm not going to talk about it	所以,你可以问它, 但我不打算回答它, 因为我不打算谈论它
330	anymore.	现在。
331	This is not a question about the election.	这不是关于选举的问题。
332	Okay, sure.	好吧,当然。
333	I always say that and then ask about it.	我总是说,然后问它。
334	There was a huge amount of public opinion polling around the election and across the	在选举周围和整个选举期间进行了大量的民意测验。
335	board it showed that voters are very concerned about corruption in the government.	它显示选民对政府的腐败非常关切。
336	There have been some instances of credible allegations of corruption in U.S. officials	美国官员曾有过一些可信的腐败指控
337	dealing overseas and diplomacy.	在海外和外交领域。
338	Obviously, the case study will be Ambassador Guilfoyle.	显然,案例研究将是吉尔福尔大使。
339	So my question is, are you concerned that Americans might believe that American diplomacy	所以我的问题是你担心美国人会相信美国外交
340	is infected with corruption, self-dealing, self-enrichment?	是否感染了腐败,自我交易,自我充实?
341	Do you think that perception is out there?	你认为那种感觉存在吗?
342	I don't know if that perception is out there or not.	我不知道那种感觉是不是在外头
343	I can tell you at the Department of State, and I made this very clear from the very beginning,	我可以在国务院告诉你我从一开始就说清楚了
344	there have been multiple things that have been sent out to make this very clear about	有很多事情被派去澄清
345	what the ethical standards we expect everyone to abide by.	我们期望每个人都遵守什么道德标准。
346	And we're going to continue to reiterate that.	我们将继续重申这一点。
347	And that precedes whatever happened in Greece and anywhere else.	在希腊和其他任何地方发生的事都先如此。
348	We have a process for addressing those things and we take that very seriously.	我们有一个解决这些问题的进程,我们非常认真地对待这个问题。
349	So I can't opine about all the stories.	所以,我不能评论所有的故事。
350	I don't know which other ones you're discussing, but I can tell you that we have	我不知道你们在讨论什么但我可以告诉你我们有
351	repeatedly, within the Department of State, and we haven't done it because we're suspicious of anybody,	屡次,在国务院, 我们没有这样做,因为我们怀疑任何人,
352	we just want to remind everybody that at the end of the day, we work for the American people,	我们只是想提醒大家最终我们为美国人民工作
353	we work for the government of the United States on behalf of the American people,	我们代表美国人民为美国政府工作,
354	and everything we do in our roles has to be about furthering the interest of the United States of America,	我们所做的一切,都是为了促进美利坚合众国的利益,
355	not the interest of any individual.	不代表任何个人的利益。
356	That's the standard we've set from day one.	这是我们从第一天就设定的标准。
357	That's the standard we try to follow every single day.	这是我们每天都要遵循的标准。
358	And if someone doesn't meet that standard, we have a process to address it.	如果有人达不到这个标准, 我们有一个过程来解决它。
359	Do you think the Department is living up to that standard and U.S. officials are living up to that standard?	你觉得部门是否达到了标准而美国官员是否达到了标准?
360	If it's not, we'll take it very seriously.	如果不是,我们会认真对待的.
361	If we ever come across instances or evidence that someone has not lived up to that standard,	如果我们遇到过有人没有达到标准的情况或证据
362	we have processes and laws in place to address it.	我们制定了解决这一问题的程序和法律。
363	We won't tolerate it, I can tell you that.	我们不会容忍的我可以告诉你
364	Do you feel Ambassador Guilfoyle is the exception here?	你觉得吉福尔大使是例外吗?
365	Well, I'm not going to comment on individual cases.	我不会对个别案件发表评论
366	She's no longer the ambassador and she's no longer with us.	她不再是大使了她也不再和我们在一起了
367	But I'm saying other people other than her.	但我说的是她以外的人
368	Do you feel like everything is clean otherwise?	你觉得一切都干净吗?
369	If I ever came across an instance where I had a well-founded suspicion or the department did	如果我遇到一个有确凿根据的怀疑或者部门有
370	that someone was doing something they shouldn't be doing, we will address it very promptly.	有人在做不该做的事我们会很快处理的
371	And perhaps have addressed it very promptly.	也许已经非常迅速地处理了这个问题。
372	But we have a process for doing that.	但我们有一个这样做的过程。
373	We don't do it at press conferences.	我们不会在记者招待会上这么做的
374	We do it through the process that we have of identifying a problem, confirming whether it's real,	我们通过找出一个问题来确认它是否真实
375	and then we also have an inspector general process as well internally.	然后我们内部也有一个监察长程序。
376	So – but we take this very seriously and we won't tolerate any exception to the rule.	所以——但我们非常认真对待这一点,我们不会容忍任何例外规则.
377	Secretary, regarding the talks this week in Abu Dhabi,	秘书,关于本周在阿布扎比的会谈
378	I spoke earlier today with your European Union counterpart, Kasha Khalis,	我今天早些时候与你的欧洲联盟对应方Kasha Khalis谈过
379	who said that from her view, Russia has not shown that it's willing to negotiate.	她认为俄国没有表明愿意谈判
380	Yeah, but didn't you just ask me the same thing?	是啊,但你不只是问我同样的事情?
381	Sorry.	对不起
382	Okay.	摆
383	Yeah, I would tell you guys, I mean, it's not easy to get –	是啊,我会告诉你们的人, 我的意思是,这是不容易得到 -
384	that's why this war has gone on for almost five years.	这就是为什么这场战争已经持续了将近五年。
385	We're going to continue to do what we can.	继续尽其所能.
386	You're asking me to guarantee you an outcome.	你让我保证你的结果
387	I can't do that.	我不能这样做。
388	It's not – the United States is not a combatant in that war, okay?	不是,美国不是那场战争的参战者,好吗?
389	It's the Russians that are fighting that war,	是俄国人在打仗
390	and it's Ukraine that was invaded and is being attacked and being fought against.	并且是乌克兰被入侵正在遭到攻击和反抗
391	So all we can do is serve as a facilitator of the talks	因此,我们所能做的就是充当会谈的调解人
392	and do what we can from the capacity that we have to inject ideas into those discussions	尽我们所能,为这些讨论注入想法
393	in the hopes of arriving at a solution that's diplomatic in nature.	希望达成外交性质的解决方案
394	That's all we can do, and that's what we're going to continue to try to do.	这就是我们所能做的,这就是我们要继续尝试做的事情.
395	But in the end, it's not the United States war.	但最终并非美国战争.
396	We're not combatants in that war.	我们不是那场战争中的战斗人员。
397	And so we are doing everything we can to bring that war to an end.	因此,我们正在竭尽全力结束这场战争。
398	But in the end, it takes the combatants to agree.	但最终需要战斗人员同意.
399	But we'll do everything we can because we think it's important.	但我们会尽力而为,因为我们认为这很重要.
400	The President's made it a priority,	总统把这件事列为优先事项
401	even though it's a war that's not America's war.	尽管这场战争不是美国的战争
402	Mr. Secretary, on Haiti, I just wanted to ask what the discussions on Haiti were.	秘书先生,关于海地,我只想问一下关于海地的讨论是什么。
403	Are there any concrete steps or path forwards that you see,	你是否看到任何具体的前进步骤或道路,
404	so the transitional government even votes for the government?	过渡政府甚至投票支持政府?
405	In Haiti, yeah.	在海地没错
406	So, yeah, we want to have –	所以我们想...
407	I mean, they're scheduled to beat national elections in Haiti.	我的意思是,他们计划击败海地的全国选举。
408	Obviously, there are challenges, security challenges to it as well.	显然,它也面临挑战和安全挑战。
409	That's the reality.	这就是现实
410	The gangs still control large portions of Port-au-Prince, as an example.	例如,帮派仍然控制太子港的大部分地区。
411	I could tell you that on that issue, the Canadians deserve a lot of credit.	我可以告诉你,在这个问题上, 加拿大人应该得到很多的赞扬。
412	They've really stepped up.	他们真的挺过来了
413	They've been a big catalyst in the work that's been done.	它们在已经做的工作上起了很大的催化作用.
414	Obviously, the United States has been very involved with them as well in this UN mission.	显然,美国也积极参与了这一联合国任务。
415	I think the Gang Suppression Force is starting to gain momentum.	我觉得黑帮镇压部队已经开始有了势头
416	It's up to 2,000 with another 3,000 or 4,000 have been pledged.	最多2000人,另有3000或4000人已经认捐.
417	So you're starting to see momentum in the training as well,	所以你也开始看到训练的势头了
418	the police force in Haiti and improving their professionalism.	海地警察部队,并提高其专业水平。
419	But, you know, it's a difficult challenge.	但是,你知道,这是一个困难的挑战。
420	And I would say if the Gang Suppression Force effort doesn't work,	如果黑帮镇压部队的努力失败了
421	then we're out of ideas.	然后我们没有想法。
422	So we have to make it work.	因此,我们必须使它发挥作用。
423	There really is no other option.	真的没有其他选择。
424	There's no Plan B here anymore.	这里已经没有B计划了
425	So the Kenyan-led effort sort of just wasn't doing enough.	因此,肯尼亚主导的努力只是做得不够。
426	This new process is what replaced it.	这个新进程正是它所取代的。
427	And it has to work because if it doesn't,	它必须工作因为如果它不工作,
428	I don't know what other alternative there is at this point.	我不知道现在还有什么其他选择
429	So we'll just continue to encourage and we raise it at all these G7	所以我们就继续鼓励并且提高它在所有这些G7
430	for these countries to step up and donate money to the account	向账户捐款
431	necessary to make this effort successful.	使这一努力取得成功是必要的。
432	What's the timeline on ramping up the number of troops deployed in the GSF?	增加部署在GSF的兵力的时间表是什么?.
433	And do you think that the timeline on the elections is appropriate	你觉得选举的时间表合适吗?
434	just given the security situation?	就因为安全情况?
435	Well, look, ultimately, the elections,	嗯,看,最终,选举,
436	you can't have elections if gangs control large portions of the city.	如果黑帮控制了整个城市的大部分地区你就不能进行选举
437	People will say it's not a legitimate and credible election	人们会说这不是合法和可信的选举
438	because a significant percentage of the population can't go to a voting place	因为有相当一部分人不能去投票
439	because it happens to be controlled by a gang.	因为它恰好被帮派控制
440	It makes it very difficult.	这让事情变得非常困难。
441	So stability is important for elections to be credible.	因此,稳定对于选举的可信性至关重要。
442	That's why, you know, they're...	所以,你知道,他们...
443	And Ukraine hasn't had an election in a long time either	乌克兰也很久没有选举了
444	because they're in the middle of a war, right?	因为他们在打仗,对吧?
445	So our point is that we'd like to see elections in Haiti,	所以,我们的观点是我们希望海地的选举,
446	but before you can make real progress on an election in Haiti,	但在海地大选取得真正进展之前
447	you've got to do more to push back the gangs	你要多做点什么才能击退黑帮
448	so that people can actually go vote and not get killed or decapitated.	这样人们就可以去投票而不是被杀或斩首。
449	Secretary, in Atlanta, you mentioned that you expected to see	部长,在亚特兰大,你提到你期望看到
450	your Brazilian counterpart here in Paris.	你的巴西对手在巴黎
451	Yeah, Mauro was here.	是的,毛罗在这里。
452	Do you have any expectation as to how much time	你对多少时间有什么期望吗?
453	they'll get to speak with him, or can you characterize	他们可以和他说话或者你可以描述
454	the status of the relationship between the two governments now	目前两国政府之间的关系状况
455	several weeks after the Brazilian election	巴西大选数周后
456	and after Flavio Bolsonaro's arrival in Milas?	在弗拉维奥·博尔索纳罗到达米拉斯之后?
457	Well, I mean, we talk to him.	我们跟他谈谈
458	Every time I see him, we have conversations,	每次我见到他,我们有谈话,
459	and we'll probably talk while we're here.	我们可能在这里会谈谈。
460	We don't have a scheduled meeting or anything,	我们没有安排会议什么的
461	but we'll be dealing with the Brazilian government.	但我们会和巴西政府打交道
462	I mean, that's... We were dealing with them before,	我的意思是,这是... 我们之前处理过他们
463	and we have an issue, you know, where they haven't allowed	我们有个问题他们不允许
464	our ambassador to come into the country.	我们的大使将来到这个国家。
465	That's a problem.	那是个问题。
466	Danny Perez, he's our nominee.	丹尼・佩雷斯他是我们的提名人
467	They didn't grant Agraman.	他们没有给阿格拉曼。
468	That has to be fixed,	这事一定要解决
469	and we hope they'll fix it because we don't think it's good.	我们希望他们能修好它因为我们觉得它不好
470	So that's a good tone for our relationship for them	所以,这是很好的调子我们的关系为他们
471	not to allow our ambassador to go into the country.	不许我国大使入境.
472	They have an ambassador in the U.S.,	他们有一个大使在美国,
473	but at some point, you know, that imbalance can't continue.	但是,在某些时候,你知道, 不平衡是不能持续的。
474	So we'll start there.	我们从那里开始
475	And then, obviously, there's some trade issues.	然后,显然, 有一些贸易问题。
476	I'm not our trade negotiator, but obviously,	我不是我们的贸易谈判员但很明显
477	our foreign policy is affected by trade,	我们的外交政策受到贸易的影响,
478	so I stay very much on top of those issues	所以我非常关注这些问题
479	and also have to be confronted as well.	也必须面对。
480	But, yeah, I mean, Mauro and I get along great.	但是,是的,我的意思是,毛罗和我相处得很好。
481	I mean, we speak and we talk, but obviously,	我的意思是,我们说话和谈话, 但很明显,
482	there's some differences between our government's views	我们政府的观点有些分歧
483	on trade and some other matters that will have to be resolved.	贸易问题和一些必须解决的其他事项。
484	I know Jameson's been working on that,	我知道詹姆森一直在研究这个
485	and we'll have an opportunity to interact with him.	我们有机会和他互动
486	I've interacted with him multiple times, many times,	我和他交往过多次,多次
487	since I've been in this role.	自从我演过这个角色
488	I raised it.	我养的
489	Yeah, I've raised it here with these groups,	是的,我在这里与这些团体,
490	and we've encouraged more and more of these countries	我们鼓励了越来越多的国家
491	to be involved in that process as well.	也参与这一进程。
492	We think they have a lot to contribute,	我们认为他们有很多事情要做
493	not just to Venezuela's recovery,	不只是为了委内瑞拉的复苏,
494	but the more I think Venezuela is exposed to the world	但我认为委内瑞拉越是暴露在世界上
495	that doesn't involve Russia and China and Iran,	这与俄罗斯、中国和伊朗无关
496	the more progress can be made there in terms of recovering	在复苏方面,可以取得更大的进展。
497	just from an economic and societal standpoint.	仅从经济和社会角度看。
498	As far as the processes concerned with elections	关于选举进程
499	and the democratic transition,	和民主过渡,
500	I believe they're meeting again this week.	我想他们这周又见面了
501	As I said, we're on pace.	正如我所说,我们步入正轨。
502	If things continue on scale,	如果事情在规模上继续下去,
503	to have a new Supreme Court magistrates in place	设立新的最高法院法官;
504	by the middle of next month in December.	下个月12月中旬之前
505	Subsequent to that, very quickly thereafter,	之后,很快,
506	will be the creation of the new Electoral Council.	将成立新的选举委员会。
507	These are two things that are essential.	这两件事至关重要。
508	There are three things you need for an election to work in Venezuela.	委内瑞拉选举需要三件事
509	You need a new Supreme Court.	你需要一个新的最高法院。
510	You need a new Electoral Council that's administrative,	你需要一个新的选举委员会行政,
511	not political in nature.	不是政治性质的。
512	And you need a free and open press.	你需要一个自由和公开的媒体。
513	And I think it's been very good that Maria Carina	我认为这是非常好的玛丽亚卡琳娜
514	and other elements of the opposition have been in the country now	反对派的其他成员已经进入了这个国家
515	for over two weeks.	超过两周
516	No one's been arrested.	没有人被逮捕。
517	They're having press conferences.	他们举行新闻发布会。
518	They have full access to the Internet.	他们完全可以上网。
519	You can't have credible elections if the people running	如果人民在竞选你就不能有可信的选举
520	can't communicate with the voters.	无法与选民沟通.
521	There's some other things people don't think about.	还有一些别人不会想的东西.
522	For example, there are 7 million Venezuelans living abroad.	例如,有700万委内瑞拉人居住在国外。
523	How are they going to vote?	他们要怎么投票?
524	We need to get consulates open in the United States	我们要把领事馆开到美国
525	so that those that are in the U.S. are able to have a voting place	让那些在美国的人能够拥有投票席位
526	they can go to right now.	他们现在可以去。
527	They have no consulates open in the United States.	他们在美国没有开设领事馆.
528	So there are things like that that we've talked about	所以有些事情我们已经谈过了
529	with our foreign minister.	与我们的外交部长。
530	They're acting foreign minister that's in place right now.	他们代理外交部长现在到位。
531	So I think we're making good progress.	所以,我认为我们正在取得良好的进展。
532	We just have to stay on top of it and make sure we can get these deadlines.	我们只需要坚持下去确保我们能得到这些最后期限。
533	Because once you get the Electoral Council in place,	因为一旦你让选举委员会到位
534	you have these elements in place,	你已经有了这些元素,
535	then at that point you would hope,	那时你希望
536	the expectation would be that they would declare a vacancy	希望他们能宣布一个空缺
537	in the presidency,	在担任主席期间,
538	which then triggers a six-month period for an election	然后触发六个月的选举期
539	on a date set by the legitimate Electoral Council	合法选举委员会确定的日期
540	that we're hoping will be set up very soon.	我们希望很快能成立
541	So there's a plan.	于是有计.
542	We're pushing forward on it.	我们正在推进。
543	It's a priority for us, and I think it'll succeed.	这对我们来说是一个优先事项,我想它会成功的.
544	Speaking of democratic transition...	说到民主过渡...
545	I don't have an update,	我没有最新消息
546	because I haven't been able to talk to them today.	因为我今天没和他们说话
547	The president and the U.S. officials have briefed	总统和美国官员已经作了简报
548	on what they're sort of going into these talks	他们正在谈什么
549	with talking about security guarantee	说到安全保障
550	or security infrastructure around Europe.	或欧洲周边的安全基础设施。
551	And is there a discussion	还有讨论吗?
552	of the U.S. providing security guarantees,	美国提供安全保障,
553	sort of a NATO Article 5 or Article 4 style?	是北约第5条还是第4条的风格?
554	Well, all of those things are...	所有那些东西都是...
555	I mean, there's a...	我的意思是,有一个...
556	I don't think we've settled on a final concrete plan	我想我们还没确定最后的具体计划
557	on what it would look like.	关于它会是什么样子。
558	I think concepts have been discussed about what security guarantees	我想大家已经讨论过什么安全保证
559	could look like post-conflict.	可能看起来像冲突后。
560	And the reason why that topic remains in the headlines	为何这个话题仍留在头条
561	is because I think it'll be key	是因为我觉得会是关键
562	to ultimately being able to end the war	最终能够结束战争
563	is an understanding that Ukraine	乌克兰
564	will feel secure after the war.	战后会感到安全
565	And obviously it has to be something	很明显,它一定是什么
566	that Russia agrees to as well in order for it to work.	俄罗斯也同意这样做,以便它发挥作用。
567	So I think that's the conversation.	所以,我想这就是谈话。
568	So while it seems like for some	所以,虽然它看起来像一些
569	it would look like we're working backwards,	看起来我们是在倒着工作
570	the truth of the matter is those security guarantees	事情的真相是那些安全保障
571	are going to be key in order for Ukraine	将会成为乌克兰的关键
572	to be able to agree to something.	能够同意一些事情。
573	But it has to be something Russia agrees to as well,	但俄罗斯也同意这一点,
574	I'm stating the obvious.	我说的是很明显的。
575	But I think that's why these talks are so critical.	但我认为这就是这些会谈如此关键的原因.
576	Is that something that the U.S. would put into a treaty,	美国会把这件事变成条约吗?
577	like treaty guarantees here?	就像这里的条约保证?
578	I mean, potentially, but I don't know if that's...	我的意思是,潜在的, 但我不知道,如果这是...
579	We've discussed it at that level of detail yet,	我们讨论过了详细程度还没有,
580	and as you know, treaties aren't necessarily	如你所知,条约并不一定是
581	the easiest things to pass anymore.	最容易通过的东西了。
582	To get confirmed through the Senate, so forth.	通过参议院确认,等等。
583	I'm sorry, go ahead.	对不起,继续说
584	Did you talk with Japan's foreign minister	你和日本外务大臣谈过了吗?
585	about the ICC's sanction today?	关于国际刑事法院今天的制裁?
586	He always raises it.	他总是提起它。
587	Obviously the main judge at the ICC is a Japanese citizen,	显然国际刑事法院的主要法官是日本公民,
588	so they raise the point, we make our point.	因此,他们提出这一点, 我们提出我们的观点。
589	But we have a good relationship with Japan,	但我们和日本的关系很好
590	but we understand we have a difference of opinion	但我们知道我们意见不一
591	when it comes to the ICC.	当涉及到国际刑事法院时。
592	Secretary, was there any further discussion today	秘书,今天有没有进一步讨论
593	on the scale of the humanitarian situation in Gaza?	加沙人道主义局势的规模?
594	It's been very severe.	已经很严重了
595	Yeah, so the new head of the World Food Program,	是啊,所以世界粮食计划署的新负责人,
596	he used to work at the Department of Agriculture,	他以前在农业部工作,
597	has now came and gave us a brief on what needs to happen	已经来向我们简要介绍需要发生的事情
598	and the progress that we hope to make.	以及我们希望取得的进展。
599	Obviously, you know, there are agreements	显然,你知道,有协议
600	that were part of the ceasefire	停火的一部分
601	that we expect to be adhered to,	以便我们遵守,
602	and there is a growing humanitarian need	人道主义需求日益增加
603	that we want to address,	我们想谈的是,
604	and the World Food Program is uniquely positioned	世界粮食计划署处于独特的地位
605	to be able to deliver that.	能够做到这一点。
606	I think we'd like to see them continue	我想我们想让他们继续
607	to work out ways to work more closely	制定更密切合作的方法
608	with the UN program,	与联合国方案合作,
609	because we think the World Food Program has the...	因为我们觉得世界粮食计划署...
610	What we don't want to see is redundancy of effort,	我们不想看到重复的努力,
611	and we don't want to see inefficiency.	我们不想看到低效率
612	We actually think the World Food Program	我们实际上认为世界粮食计划署
613	is able to deliver assistance	能够提供援助;
614	in a way that perhaps the UN system on its own cannot do,	以也许联合国系统自己无法做到的方式,
615	so we've encouraged more coordination between the two,	因此,我们鼓励更多的协调,
616	and that's increasingly happening.	这越来越发生。
617	So it was raised today.	於是今时起.
618	On this very immediate issue, though,	然而,关于这个紧迫的问题,
619	of getting more shelter in,	获得更多的庇护,
620	because there's been flooding,	因为有洪水,
621	I mean, five people were killed in a sandbag collapse.	5个人在沙袋崩塌中丧生
622	You can see the tents were sort of blowing away.	你可以看到帐篷被吹走了
623	I think two-thirds of the population are in tents.	我认为三分之二的人口在帐篷里。
624	Is there any more immediate...	还有没有更直接的...
625	Well, we didn't...	我们没有...
626	I know that instance today that you were discussing	我知道你今天在讨论
627	where there was some sort of a burn	那里有某种燃烧
628	or some sand thing that collapsed and killed somebody.	或者沙子什么的崩溃并杀死了某人。
629	That just was in the news today.	今天新闻里刚刚提到这个
630	I didn't actually see that until after our meeting,	直到我们见面之后我才真正看到
631	so that specific instance wasn't raised.	所以没有提出具体的例子。
632	What was raised was the need for wraparound services.	有人提出需要提供包罗式服务。
633	In essence, food alone is not enough,	基本上,仅靠食物是不够的,
634	and the goal of the World Food Program, by the way,	和世界粮食计划署的目标,
635	is not ultimately just to continue to feed Gaza,	最终不仅仅是继续供养加沙,
636	but to eventually have Gaza have its own ability	但最终让加沙拥有自己的能力
637	to produce its own food,	生产自己的食物,
638	setting up bakeries and other things	建立面包店和其他东西
639	that can create food for itself	能够为自己创造食物
640	so that it becomes self-sustaining.	以便它能够自我维持。
641	That's the goal we all share,	这是我们共同的目标,
642	but part of that obviously starts with shelter	但其中一部分显然始于住所
643	and the need for heat at some point here,	和需要热点在这里,
644	and obviously given the winter approaching	明显地,由于冬天临近
645	and all these other needs that are necessary	以及所有其他必要的需要
646	in order to sustain life.	为了维持生命
647	All of that was part of the Border Peace Program.	所有这些都是边界和平方案的一部分。
648	All of that was part of the way the ceasefire came together.	所有这一切都是停火得以实现的一部分。
649	It's in some ways fallen behind schedule	有点落后于计划
650	for a variety of reasons,	出于各种原因,
651	but we expect it to catch up,	但我们期望它赶上,
652	and a lot of good work has gone into it,	和很多良好的工作已经进入其中,
653	and so we're optimistic that we can pull that together.	所以,我们乐观地认为,我们可以把这一点拉在一起。
654	What is the future of U.S. military aid to Israel?	美国对以色列军事援助的未来如何?.
655	Well, we're currently negotiating	我们正在谈判
656	a memorandum of understanding.	谅解备忘录。
657	The 10-year memorandum certainly expires.	10年备忘录当然到期。
658	The president said it could expire.	总统说可能会过期
659	It could be done by the end of the year.	可在年底前完成。
660	But the Israeli system,	但以色列的制度,
661	the Israeli's Prime Minister,	以色列总理,
662	who's already stated that he wants to stop	他已经说过要停下来
663	being a foreign military financing country	作为外国军事资助国
664	and co-solute foreign military sales.	和共定外国军售.
665	But he's talking about a decade.	却说十年.
666	The president mentioned a year.	总统提到一年。
667	I just wonder what U.S. policy is at this point.	我只是想知道美国的政策在这一点上。
668	Well, it's what the president says, that he would like	嗯,这是总统说的,他想
669	for the sales, he would like for the financing portion	对于销售,他想要的融资部分
670	to end as soon as possible.	尽快结束
671	So we're working through that	所以我们正努力通过
672	in terms of how we negotiate the memorandum of understanding.	就我们如何谈判谅解备忘录而言。
673	But the president's expectation	但总统的期望
674	is that Israel is now prosperous and rich enough	以色列现在已经足够繁荣和富有了
675	to be able to be a sales country.	能够成为一个销售国。
676	They can buy weapons from us, but we no longer	他们可以从我们这里买武器,但我们不再
677	have to provide the financing.	必须提供资金。
678	It's something the Israelis themselves have offered up.	这是以色列人自己提出的。
679	Do you think they're ready to go it alone	你觉得他们可以自己去吗?
680	starting in 2027?	从2027年开始?
681	Well, that's what the president said we're going to do.	总统说我们要这么做
682	So ultimately, I think they could if they wanted to.	所以归根结底,我认为他们可以如果他们想要。
683	Yeah, absolutely.	当然
684	They also produce weaponry, by the way.	顺便说一句,他们也生产武器。
685	So part of the MOU would also involve the ability	因此,谅解备忘录的一部分也将涉及能力
686	to co-produce on some things.	来共同制作一些东西。
687	But on the question of financing,	但关于融资问题,
688	I think Israel's clearly graduated beyond that.	我认为以色列显然已经毕业。
689	At this point, they themselves have expressed it.	此时,他们自己已经表达了这一点。
690	We'll negotiate the timeline.	我们来商谈时间表
691	The president wants it as soon as possible.	总统希望它尽快。
692	He thinks it makes sense to do it as soon as possible.	他认为尽快完成是合情合理的.
693	We're learning a little bit more about the articles	我们正在学习更多关于文章的内容
694	of impeachment against Secretary Hegseth	弹劾黑格塞斯部长
695	with Republican	与共和党人
696	Representative Massey saying	梅西代表说
697	that Hegseth	赫格赛特
698	used the Iran	使用伊朗语
699	war and knowingly executed and implemented	战争和故意实施
700	unlawful orders	非法命令
701	to initiate war against a foreign nation.	发动对外国的战争。
702	How would you respond to that?	你会如何回应?
703	Just the allegation of this being	只是关于这个的指控
704	an illegal?	非法的吗?
705	Secretary, I know you're not	部长,我知道你不是
706	commenting on the current status of NVIDIA,	评论了荷兰残疾人协会的现状,
707	but can you explain, back when you guys	但你们能解释一下吗?
708	went to China in, I believe it was	去了中国,我想是的
709	May, Jensen Huang was initially	五月,黄詹森开始
710	not on that trip	那次旅行没有
711	and then joined Air Force One kind of midway.	然后加入了空军一种中途。
712	I believe he was in Alaska on the way to	我相信他在去阿拉斯加的路上
713	China.	中国.
714	Do you have any recollection of why	你还记得为什么吗?
715	he was initially left off or why he joined	他最初被搁置或为什么他加入
716	or any of those details?	或任何这些细节?
717	No.	没有
718	I mean,	我是说...
719	I have a lot of jobs, but the	我有很多工作,不过...
720	White House travel office isn't one of them.	白宫旅行办公室不是其中之一。
721	I don't want to give you bad information.	我不想给你坏消息
722	Can I ask about the UN	我能问一下联合国吗?
723	Secretary General race?	总书记比赛?
724	Do you have a	你有没有一个
725	favorite?	喜欢吗?
726	If I told you who the US wanted,	如果我告诉你美国要谁
727	it would doom them to lose.	那会让他们丧命
728	There's a couple really good candidates,	有几个非常优秀的候选人
729	people that we like two or three, and it's	我们喜欢两三个的人,而它是
730	a process that will work itself out, and I think	一个会成功的进程,我想
731	we've expressed our views,	我们已经表达了我们的观点,
732	but it's an ongoing process, so we	但它是一个持续的过程, 所以我们
733	don't have a candidate that's the US candidate.	没有美国候选人
734	We see two or three very qualified people	我们看到两三个非常合格的人
735	and we're going to let the voting continue on that	我们要让投票继续
736	front, and at some point the world will make	在某个时候,世界将会
737	a decision on who they want.	决定他们要谁
738	We have our opinions	我们有我们的意见
739	and I talked about that with President	我和总统谈过了
740	Macron just a moment ago, but	麦克龙刚才,但是...
741	I think we're just going to keep working at	我想我们只是要继续工作
742	the way we are right now because other countries get	因为我们现在的样子因为其他国家得到
743	to vote here as well, so we're watching the process	也在这里投票所以我们在看这个过程
744	closely.	靠近点
745	In the end, what we're interested in more than	最后,我们感兴趣的不仅仅是
746	anything else is that it be someone that's	其它的就是一个人
747	committed to UN reform.	致力于联合国改革。
748	There's real momentum	有真正的动力
749	behind UN reform.	联合国改革背后。
750	I think it's one of the things	我想这是其中之一
751	that's going to save the UN is that it reforms.	这将拯救联合国因为它改革。
752	If it doesn't, it's going to be in a lot of trouble,	若不至此,必有大难.
753	and we want someone as Secretary General that's	我们希望有人做秘书长
754	committed, truly committed, to reform,	承诺,真正致力于改革,
755	and that's the standard we're using	这就是我们使用的标准
756	to judge all the candidates that are out there.	来评判所有候选人
757	Are you and President Macron on board the same	你和麦克龙总统是同一人吗?
758	views on this issue?	对这个问题的看法?
759	I can't represent that	我不能代表这个
760	his views are the same as mine.	他的观点跟我一样
761	I'm just	我只是说
762	saying that I hope France	说我希望法国
763	is aligned with us on the need to reform the United	改革联合国的必要性
764	Nations, and I think there's real	国家,我觉得有真实的
765	momentum for that.	正在形成势头。
766	I've not gone	我没走
767	into a single country or spoken to a single	进入单一国家或与单一国家交谈
768	global leader that says, oh, the UN is perfect the way	全球领袖说,哦,联合国是完美的道路。
769	it is.	没错
770	I think everyone generally agrees	我觉得大家都同意
771	that the UN needs, the system needs to be	联合国需要,联合国系统需要
772	reformed, that there was a lot of	改革,有很多
773	waste, that there was a lot of bloat,	浪费, 有很多的bloat,
774	and that it needed to get back to its core principles.	它需要回到它的核心原则。
775	I think it's troubling for a lot of people that the UN	我觉得联合国对很多人来说很麻烦
776	really is not at the center of any of the global	其实不是任何全球的中心
777	crises that are going on right now.	正在发生的危机。
778	It has	它已经
779	not played a meaningful role in a major	在一个主要方面没有发挥有意义的作用
780	global crisis in quite a while.	全球危机在相当长一段时间。
781	So the whole system is in need of reform,	所以整个系统都需要改革
782	but I think the most immediate reform	但我认为最直接的改革
783	that people are concentrating on is that	人们正在关注的是
784	it's lost its core principles and sort of	它失去了核心原则和那种
785	grown so large and bloated and gotten into	长得这么大,又肿又大, 进入了
786	areas it was never intended to tackle.	它从未打算处理的领域。
787	So we've made real progress	所以,我们已经取得了真正的进展
788	over the last year in reform, and I think it's important	在过去一年的改革, 我认为这很重要
789	for the next Secretary General to be someone who's committed	下届秘书长要成为一位有决心的人
790	to continuing to make those reforms,	继续进行这些改革,
791	or the UN's going to be in a lot of trouble.	否则联合国会遇到很多麻烦
792	I'm being honest with you.	我对你说实话
793	I just think	我只是觉得
794	that's the process.	这就是过程。
795	We don't fix it.	我们不修复它。
796	Did you discuss with Macron the future of the	你和Macron讨论过未来
797	UN mission to Lebanon?	联合国黎巴嫩特派团?
798	We did.	我们做到了。
799	No, and I think the	没有,我想
800	notion is, you know, one of the things that we're	我们的想法是
801	working on from our perspective	从我们的角度出发
802	is finding the ability to monitor	正在寻找监视能力
803	the implementation of the pilot zones.	实施试验区.
804	It doesn't have to be a military mission.	不须军事使命.
805	It could be	也许是
806	a civilian mission.	文职特派团。
807	We have some ideas.	我们有一些想法。
808	Because it's important, you know, these pilot zones,	因为这些试验区很重要
809	the Israelis leave, the Lebanese	以色列人离开黎巴嫩
810	armed forces are supposed to come in	军队应该进来
811	and take them without Hezbollah	并带走他们没有真主党
812	retaking them and using them to launch attacks.	重新带走他们利用他们发动攻击
813	We need a verification system	我们需要一个核查制度
814	trusted by everyone and trusted by both sides	人人信任双方信任
815	that both sides are complying with	双方遵守
816	their obligations under the agreements that are in place.	其根据现行协定承担的义务。
817	So we discussed a little bit some of the	我们讨论过一些
818	ideas we have on what that could look like.	我们对于它可能是什么想法。
819	We're not prepared to sort of discuss it yet	我们还没准备好讨论一下
820	publicly because obviously it's sensitive	公开是因为很敏感
821	and would require	并且将需要
822	the agreement of both the Lebanese and the Israelis	黎巴嫩和以色列双方的协议
823	in order for it to work.	为了让它工作。
824	But we discussed that process.	但我们讨论了这一进程。
825	That could involve UNIFIL?	这可能涉及联黎部队?
826	Well, UNIFIL, as you know, is expiring.	如你所知,联黎部队即将结束。
827	So something could replace it	有东西可以代替它
828	that can be in that role.	这可以在这个角色。
829	But again, the details of that are still	再说一遍,这些细节仍然
830	{\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}正在继续工作
831	I can't really	我没办法
832	at this moment give you, other than to say that the goal	现在给你,除了说目标
833	remains that we do need some credible	我们仍然需要一些可信的
834	group on the ground	地面小组
835	that can verify who is	可以验证谁是
836	complying with what on these agreements.	遵守这些协定。
837	And that doesn't necessarily have to be a military	那不一定是军人
838	mission, which is what UNIFIL was in many ways.	联黎部队在许多方面就是如此。
839	It was military personnel.	是军人干的
840	It could be a civilian mission.	这可能是一个民事任务。
841	But it's a trusted verifier is what we're searching	但我们正在寻找的是一个值得信赖的核查员
842	for.	为.
843	And we have some ideas about	我们有些想法
844	how to achieve it.	如何实现它。
845	And I think France could be helpful in that regard.	我认为法国在这方面可以有所帮助。
846	Secretary, have you	部长,你有
847	neutralized the Iranian threat against American	消除伊朗对美国的威胁
848	diplomats overseas that last	海外的外交官最后一次
849	month US Intel learned about?	一个月的美国情报得知?
850	Have we neutralized it?	我们解除了吗?
851	Well, look, we're always concerned.	好吧,你看,我们总是担心。
852	Yeah, we've addressed it by moving people away	是啊,我们已经解决它通过转移人
853	from the threat.	从威胁。
854	There's a couple things that are a threat.	有几个东西是威胁。
855	Obviously, we're always worried about the	显然,我们总是担心
856	safety and security of our personnel	人员的安全保障
857	and their families overseas.	和他们的家人在海外。
858	And so when	所以当
859	we see anything that could pose a potential threat	我们能看到任何可能造成潜在威胁的东西
860	beyond a certain threshold, we're going to address	超过一定的门槛,我们将解决
861	it.	这个
862	Beyond that, we're also concerned	除此之外,我们也担心
863	about what's going on with the Houthis in Saudi	沙乌地阿拉伯的胡塞河是怎么回事
864	Arabia.	沙特阿拉伯。
865	That could spiral at any	那样会螺旋上升
866	moment.	等会儿
867	In some cases, you've seen Saudi Arabia,	在某些情况下,你见过沙特阿拉伯,
868	for example, attack not just from Yemen,	例如,不只是从也门发动攻击,
869	but you've also seen attacks come in from Iraq	但你也看到了来自伊拉克的攻击
870	via the Iranian-backed	通过伊朗支持的
871	militias.	民兵组织。
872	So	这么说
873	for us, what we always have to take	对我们来说,我们总是需要的
874	into consideration is not just what's happening	考虑的不仅仅是正在发生的事情
875	now, it's what could happen.	现在,这是会发生什么。
876	And	还有
877	if this spreads or metastasizes to	如果它传播或变形到
878	other countries, and airports are shut down	其他国家,机场关闭
879	as an example, now we can't get our people out of	举个例子,我们现在不能让我们的人离开
880	now, now they're trapped.	现在他们被困住了
881	So	这么说
882	there's an internal process	有个内部过程
883	that goes on.	继续
884	We evaluate any time	我们随时评估
885	that there's any sort of danger	有危险
886	involving facilities, we	涉及设施,我们
887	initiate an internal process	启动内部程序
888	that does a security assessment of our personnel	对我们的人员进行安全评估
889	and of our ability to move them when things got bad,	以及当事情变糟时我们移动他们的能力,
890	how many people are there, dependents	有多少人,家属
891	and the like, and then they issue recommendations	然后他们提出建议
892	done by our security folks and	我们的保安和
893	people on the ground, and those	地面上的人,还有那些
894	recommendations come to me, and it was on the basis	我收到一些建议,是建立在
895	of that recommendation that we made the decisions that	建议我们作出下列决定:
896	we made.	我们做了。
897	And it's not just about Iran,	不仅仅是伊朗
898	frankly, it's also about what's happening in Yemen	坦白地说,这也是也门发生的事情
899	with the Houthis.	与胡塞河。
900	The Houthi attacks.	胡塞人的攻击.
901	Coming back to a question on the	回到一个问题
902	Western Hemisphere,	西半球
903	Paraguay has been, under President	巴拉圭一直处于总统领导下。
904	Peña, was a member of the	佩尼亚,曾是
905	Counter-Cartel coalition	反卡特尔联盟
906	of the Shield of the Americas.	美洲的盾牌。
907	Do you have a view on the recent events	你对最近的事件有看法吗?
908	and the removal	和删除
909	of President Peña from office	佩尼亚总统
910	in the current political situation?	在目前的政治形势下?
911	He's been replaced by the Vice President, who I also	他由副总统接任,我也是
912	know, and I spoke to him on the plane	我在飞机上和他谈过
913	right here, and I've known him for a while,	就在这里我认识他很久了
914	and a lot of people thought he would be the next president	很多人认为他会是下一任总统
915	anyway, so obviously we've had	不管怎样,很明显我们有过
916	a good, constructive relationship with President Peña,	与佩尼亚总统的良好建设性关系,
917	but there's an internal process going on	但有一个内部过程
918	in Paraguay that we're not involved in and aren't going to	在巴拉圭,我们没有参与,也不会去
919	get involved in.	参与其中。
920	I represent the United States	我代表美国
921	of America, and what I'm interested in is our	美国,我感兴趣的是我们
922	bilateral relationship and cooperation	双边关系与合作
923	with Paraguay, and I expect that that	和巴拉圭,我期望
924	will continue to be as strong as it's	将会像现在这样坚强
925	ever been and will continue to grow the way	永远,并将继续成长
926	it was growing.	它正在增长。
927	I don't believe this change will in any way	我不相信这个变化以任何方式
928	negatively impact our relationship,	对我们的关系产生了负面影响
929	and that's a good thing, and it's an important thing.	这是件好事,很重要的事
930	On Cuba, are you sensing	在古巴,你有感觉吗?
931	any organic	任何有机
932	effort on the	A. 联合国
933	ground in Cuba to	古巴地面
934	actually oust	实际放弃
935	the communist leadership there?	那里的共产党领导人?
936	That's not the way to read it.	岂可如此读诵.
937	Here's the problem	问题是
938	with Cuba.	与古巴。
939	Well, you guys asked	嗯,你们问
940	Cubans to reach out to the CIA, so I'm wondering	古巴人去联系中情局所以我想知道
941	if that's delivered any results.	如果有结果的话
942	Well, I wouldn't tell you if I got a result from the CIA.	如果我有中情局的消息我不会告诉你的
943	I mean, come on, you know, but	我的意思是,来吧,你知道,但
944	I would, because then those people aren't going to be doing very	我会的,因为那样的话,那些人不会做很多
945	well, so all I can tell you is this.	我只能告诉你这个
946	Here's the problem with Cuba.	这是古巴的问题。
947	The regime there is afraid of giving	那里的政权害怕给予
948	their people any kind of freedom, economic or otherwise,	他们的人民享有任何类型的自由,无论是经济自由或其他自由,
949	because they like to control them.	因为他们喜欢控制他们。
950	So what the regime there is trying to do, and they've always	所以,那里的政权试图做什么, 他们一直
951	done, is they want to have enough economic	完成了,他们想要有足够的经济
952	activity just so that they are like a	活动就像一个
953	third world country, but not a fourth world country,	第三世界国家,但不是第四个世界国家,
954	but they don't want to lose control over people.	但他们不想失去对人的控制
955	They don't mind if the people don't have a lot,	他们不介意如果人民没有太多,
956	they just want to make sure that whatever the people have, they	他们只是想确保不管人们有,他们
957	depend on them 100% for it.	完全依靠他们
958	That's	这是
959	always been the case.	总是这样
960	How can they grow	他们怎么能成长呢?
961	economically without losing control over	在经济上不失去控制
962	their population?	他们的人口?
963	That model doesn't work.	那个模型不起作用。
964	And all it's led to is millions	导致的只有几百万
965	of people leaving the country of Cuba, including	离开古巴的人,包括
966	many to the United States, and that has	许多人来到美国,
967	to change, because that instability	改变,因为不稳定
968	and that failed state that it's created poses	和失败的状态它被创造的姿势
969	a threat to the national security	对国家安全构成威胁
970	and national interest of the United States.	美国的国家利益。
971	So that's what we're focused on, is how can we	所以这就是我们所关注的,就是我们如何能够
972	get the people of Cuba more freedom?	让古巴人民有更多的自由?
973	Political freedom for certain, because	某些政治自由,因为
974	our embargo on Cuba	我们对古巴的封锁
975	is codified in statute, and it requires	已编入法规,并要求
976	political freedom in order to lift it.	政治自由是为了解除它。
977	But also economic freedom.	还有经济自由
978	We want the people of Cuba to have what	我们希望古巴人民拥有
979	virtually every country in the	几乎每一个国家
980	Western Hemisphere has, and that is the ability	西半球有,这就是能力
981	to go out and make a living for themselves	出去谋生
982	without depending on the government,	不取决于政府,
983	to provide it for them.	以供给他们。
984	Even more troubling	更烦恼
985	is that despite how bad things are in Cuba,	尽管古巴的情况很糟,
986	there are insiders in that regime	政权里有内奸
987	that have millions and millions of dollars	拥有数百万美元
988	stashed away in bank accounts all over the world,	藏在全世界的银行账户里
989	and that have come to dime.	这已经到了一分钱。
990	This is well documented.	这有充分的文件记载。
991	The military holding company,	军事控股公司,
992	who's been stealing what little they have	谁一直在偷他们有的小
993	from the Cuban people.	从古巴人民。
994	So	这么说
995	that also can't continue.	也不能再继续了
996	Ultimately, our goal	最后,我们的目标
997	is for Cuba to have a better future, and we're going	是古巴有一个更美好的未来, 我们要去
998	to do everything we can to help	尽我们所能帮助
999	put it on that path.	把它放在这条路上。
1000	But in the end,	但最终
1001	it will require them to wake up	需要他们醒来
1002	and realize that there is no future on the path	并意识到在道路上没有未来
1003	they're on right now.	他们现在在。
1004	This is a very stubborn group of people over there,	这是一个非常顽固的人群在那里,
1005	but we'll keep working on it,	但我们会继续努力
1006	because it's a priority.	因为它是一个优先。
1007	Alright guys,	好吧,伙计们,
1008	what a marathon!	真是个马拉松!

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