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前副总统彭斯谈国会暴动事件后与川普的关系 | 2026.9.

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0:02I've read your book and I enjoyed it and I highly recommend it, everybody has a copy我看过你的书,我很喜欢,我非常推荐,每个人都有一本
0:06of it.
0:07In the book you point out that despite the fact that President Trump was not happy with在书中你指出,尽管川普总统不满意
0:12your decision that day, you kind of developed a relationship with him after the event of那天你的决定 你和他发展了一种关系
0:18that and you talked to him quite freely after the events of January, after the events of在一月事件之后,在
0:23the election.选举
0:23Can you talk about what your relationship was after you made that fateful decision?你能说说你们的关系吗?
0:34You know, I'm incredibly proud of the record of the Trump-Fentz administration.我为特朗普 -芬茨政府的记录感到骄傲
0:40We rebuilt our military, we reduced taxes, rolled back regulations, unleashed energy,我们重建了军队,减税,放松监管,释放能量,
0:46appointed conservatives to our courts, and up until that first in a hundred years pandemic我们的法院任命保守派 直到一百年来第一次
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1I've read your book and I enjoyed it and I highly recommend it, everybody has a copy我看过你的书,我很喜欢,我非常推荐,每个人都有一本
2of it.
3In the book you point out that despite the fact that President Trump was not happy with在书中你指出,尽管川普总统不满意
4your decision that day, you kind of developed a relationship with him after the event of那天你的决定 你和他发展了一种关系
5that and you talked to him quite freely after the events of January, after the events of在一月事件之后,在
6the election.选举
7Can you talk about what your relationship was after you made that fateful decision?你能说说你们的关系吗?
8You know, I'm incredibly proud of the record of the Trump-Fentz administration.我为特朗普 -芬茨政府的记录感到骄傲
9We rebuilt our military, we reduced taxes, rolled back regulations, unleashed energy,我们重建了军队,减税,放松监管,释放能量,
10appointed conservatives to our courts, and up until that first in a hundred years pandemic我们的法院任命保守派 直到一百年来第一次
11we had an economy that was roaring and a bountiful and the way I wanted it to, but I'll always我们有一个经济 咆哮和丰盛 和我想要的方式, 但我将永远
12cherish and be proud of having been part of that administration.珍惜并自豪地成为该行政当局的成员。
13And President Trump, I've said to you before, David, President Trump was not just my president,川普总统,我以前说过, 大卫,川普总统不仅仅是我的总统,
14he was my friend.他曾经是我的朋友
15We forged a close working relationship over those years, we truly did, I mean some people这些年来我们建立了密切的工作关系, 我们真的做到了,我的意思是一些人
16think we're a little bit different, I mean he was big city, I was small town, you know觉得我们有点不同, 我的意思是他是大城市,我是小镇,你知道
17he was, his grandfather was an immigrant, my grandfather was an immigrant.他的祖父是移民 我祖父是移民
18His dad built a family business, he watched his father build and built himself a family他爸爸建了家业 他看着父亲建了家
19business.业务。
20I told people actually if you think about it, other than a whole lot of zeros, Donald我告诉人们,如果你考虑它, 除了很多零,唐纳德
21Trump and I had a lot in common.川普和我有很多共同点
22And it was a belief in the American dream, something you know an awful lot about, David.这是对美国梦的信念, 你知道很多,大卫。
23And so yes, it was very difficult at the end, I had to carry myself as vice president in所以,是的,它非常困难 在最后,我不得不携带自己 作为副总统英寸
24such a way that if I had an opinion that was different from the president's, I shared这样,如果我有 不同的观点 总统,我分享
25it with him in private.和他私下谈
26And then I respected as vice president the decision the president would make.然后我尊重副总统的决定
27But my oath and the circumstances brought about that public confrontation.但我的誓言和当时的情况导致了这场公开对抗。
28But after it all settled out, the president had said that the next day everything that但事成之后 总统说第二天
29needed to be said, he committed to a peaceful transfer, orderly transition, he condemned需要指出的是,他致力于和平转移,有序过渡,他谴责
30the rioters at the Capitol who said you will pay in an address to the American people.都城的暴动者说 你会在给美国人民的地址上付钱
31But the president said what needed to be said, the administration was back on track in my但总统说 需要说的是 行政当局已经回到了我的轨道上
32view for its waning weeks, but it would be about five days before I'd be approached风景渐渐消逝,但大概要五天
33by a couple members of the family who asked if I would be willing to sit down with the家人问我是否愿意坐下来
34president.总统
35And I said, well, I said candidly I said everything I needed to say to him.我说,嗯,我坦率地说,我说了所有我要对他说的话。
36But if he has something he'd like to say to me, I'll listen.如果他有话要对我说 我会听的
37And we sat down, it was five days later, and talked through all of it.我们坐下来,是五天后, 说了一遍。
38And really, during that time, I will tell you, and you know the president well, it comes真的,在这期间,我会告诉你, 你很清楚总统,它来了
39sometimes people read the account of this in my first book, which is entitled So Help有时候人们会在我的第一本书里读到这个故事 这本书的题目是"帮助"
40我神,它可以在Amazon.com上找到.
41But the president was very contrite in that time.但当时总统非常敬佩.
42I think he was in many ways saddened by what had come about.我认为,他在许多方面对所发生的事情感到悲痛。
43And in the waning weeks of the administration, we talked just about every day.在政府逐渐消逝的几周里 我们每天都在谈论
44But I'll never forget particularly a moment, I was in that back dining room just off the但我永远不会忘记 特别的时刻, 我当时在后餐厅
45Oval Office, and he seemed downcast as he had since that sixth day of January.他似乎自1月6日起就低调了
46And I looked at him as I got up from our meeting, and I said, I said, Mr. President, I'm watching我从会议中站起来时看着他 我说,总统先生,我在看
47that, and I said, I'm praying for you.我说了 我在为你祈祷
48And he looked at me and he said, don't bother.他看着我,他说,不要麻烦。
49And I got up and walked over to the door before heading back to the Oval Office and out.我站起来走到门前 然后回到了办公室 然后出去
50And I turned around and I said, well, you know, Mr. President, I get the impression我转身说,总统先生,我得到的印象
51there's two things that we'll never agree on.有两件事我们永远不会同意。
52And he looked up faintly and said, what's that?他轻轻地抬头说,那是什么?
53And I said, I get the impression we're never going to agree on my duties on January 6th.我说,我得到的印象 我们永远不会同意 我的职责在1月6日。
54And I'm never going to stop praying for you.我永远不会停止为你祈祷。
55And I never have.我从来没有
56We spoke from time to time in the weeks that after we left office, but when he returned我们不时在离职后的几周里说话 但是当他回来的时候
57to much of the rhetoric about the election and about my actions on that day, we parted在关于选举和那天我的行动的言辞中,
58ways.办法
59But I've kept that promise.但我信守了诺言
60I've prayed for the President.我为总统祈祷过
61We've spoken a couple of times since then.从那时起我们谈过几次了
62Last year, I hope and pray, like every American does, that our President is successful because去年,我希望并祈祷,像每一个美国人一样,我们的总统是成功的,因为
63when our President succeeds, America succeeds.当我们的总统成功时,美国成功。
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