佛州州长候选人表示不支持民主社会主义 | 2026.8.20
字幕摘录
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| 0:01 | As we mentioned, last night, elections set the table for some key races to watch this November, including in Florida, | 正如我们提到的,昨晚,选举 为今年11月的一些关键赛事, 包括佛罗里达, |
| 0:08 | where Congressman Byron Donalds will go up against former Congressman David Jolly in the state's gubernatorial race, | 众议员拜伦・唐纳德斯将在州州长赛中 对抗前众议员大卫・乔利 |
| 0:14 | the two already taking aim at each other in their victory speeches last night. | 两人在昨晚的胜利演说中 已经对准对方 |
| 0:18 | Listen. | 听着 |
| 0:20 | David Jolly is a career political insider, a Washington lobbyist casting checks for special interests, | 大卫·乔利是一个职业政治内幕 华盛顿的游说者为特殊利益而铸造支票 |
| 0:27 | and an MSNBC commentator who was part of the very revolving door he claims he'd clean up. | 和一位MSNBC评论员,他是他声称会清理的旋转门的一部分. |
| 0:35 | David Jolly represents everything that folks hate about Washington, D.C. | 大卫·乔利(David Jolly)代表了人们对华盛顿特区的憎恨. |
| 0:42 | Liberal David Jolly is the change that Florida cannot afford. | 自由派大卫·乔利是佛罗里达州无力承受的变化. |
| 0:48 | You see, Byron Donalds has sold the governor's mansion to the highest bidder. | 拜伦·唐纳德斯把州长的豪宅卖给了出价最高的人 |
| 0:54 | And the special interests across the state have been happy to play ball, folks. | 整个州的特殊利益集团都乐于打球 |
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| 1 | As we mentioned, last night, elections set the table for some key races to watch this November, including in Florida, | 正如我们提到的,昨晚,选举 为今年11月的一些关键赛事, 包括佛罗里达, |
| 2 | where Congressman Byron Donalds will go up against former Congressman David Jolly in the state's gubernatorial race, | 众议员拜伦・唐纳德斯将在州州长赛中 对抗前众议员大卫・乔利 |
| 3 | the two already taking aim at each other in their victory speeches last night. | 两人在昨晚的胜利演说中 已经对准对方 |
| 4 | Listen. | 听着 |
| 5 | David Jolly is a career political insider, a Washington lobbyist casting checks for special interests, | 大卫·乔利是一个职业政治内幕 华盛顿的游说者为特殊利益而铸造支票 |
| 6 | and an MSNBC commentator who was part of the very revolving door he claims he'd clean up. | 和一位MSNBC评论员,他是他声称会清理的旋转门的一部分. |
| 7 | David Jolly represents everything that folks hate about Washington, D.C. | 大卫·乔利(David Jolly)代表了人们对华盛顿特区的憎恨. |
| 8 | Liberal David Jolly is the change that Florida cannot afford. | 自由派大卫·乔利是佛罗里达州无力承受的变化. |
| 9 | You see, Byron Donalds has sold the governor's mansion to the highest bidder. | 拜伦·唐纳德斯把州长的豪宅卖给了出价最高的人 |
| 10 | And the special interests across the state have been happy to play ball, folks. | 整个州的特殊利益集团都乐于打球 |
| 11 | Let me tell you something, Byron Donalds might be for sale, but Gwen Graham and David Jolly never are. | 告诉你,拜伦・唐纳德斯可能要卖, 但格温・格雷厄姆和大卫・乔利从来没有。 |
| 12 | And joining me now is the Democratic nominee for governor in Florida, former Congressman David Jolly. | 现在加入我的是佛罗里达州州长的民主党候选人 前众议员大卫·乔利 |
| 13 | Thank you so much for joining us. | 非常感谢你加入我们。 |
| 14 | Really appreciate it. | 非常感谢 |
| 15 | Good to be with you. | 很高兴跟你在一起 |
| 16 | Thank you, Kristen. | 谢谢你,克莉丝汀。 |
| 17 | Well, congratulations on your primary win. | 恭喜你赢得了冠军 |
| 18 | Let's talk about the stakes. | 谈利害. |
| 19 | Florida, as you know, has not had a Democratic governor since 1999. | 如你所知,佛罗里达州自1999年以来一直没有民主党州长. |
| 20 | Democrats lost the last gubernatorial race by nearly 20 points. | 民主党在最后一场州长赛中以近20分输掉了比赛. |
| 21 | Why do you think you can flip this seat? | 为什么你认为你能翻转这个座位? |
| 22 | And what do you have to do to accomplish that? | 你要怎么做才能做到这一点? |
| 23 | Because 2026 isn't 2022. | 因为2026年不是2022年. |
| 24 | In 2022, voters wanted to continue on the current direction. | 2022年,选民希望继续沿着目前的方向前进. |
| 25 | But in 26, voters are screaming for change. | 但是在26年,选民在尖叫着要求变革. |
| 26 | Look, people are worried about the economy that's gripping them so hard that they're not sure about whether they can stay in their house, | 听着,人们担心经济 紧紧抓住他们 以至于他们不确定 能否留在家里, |
| 27 | afford their rent, get health care, or where to educate their kids. | 支付他们的房租,获得保健,或在哪里教育他们的孩子。 |
| 28 | And you see in 26 voters asking for change. | 26个选民要求改变 |
| 29 | It's a very different environment, to be honest, | 这是一个非常不同的环境,说实话, |
| 30 | that has presented the opportunity for a candidate like myself to run on the basics, housing, health care, and education. | 这为像我这样的候选人提供了竞选基础、住房、保健和教育的机会。 |
| 31 | The economy should work. | 经济应该发挥作用。 |
| 32 | The free market capitalism is a good thing, | 自由市场资本主义是件好事 |
| 33 | but government's got to step in and help out in some critical areas. | 但政府必须介入和帮助 一些关键领域。 |
| 34 | It should stay out of your life, stay out of your bedroom, old school Republican libertarianism. | 它应该远离你的生活, 远离你的卧室, 旧学校的共和自由主义。 |
| 35 | Look, voters are telling us they want change. | 你看,选民告诉我们 他们想要改变。 |
| 36 | And so in Florida, Kristen, this is a unique year. | 在佛罗里达州,克莉丝汀,今年是独一无二的一年。 |
| 37 | Our Congressionalists have swung by 15 points. | 我们的国会党员已经打了15分。 |
| 38 | The city of Miami elected a Democratic mayor for the first time in 30 years. | 迈阿密市30年来首次选出民主党市长. |
| 39 | It was 19 points. | 是19点 |
| 40 | Mar-a-Lago elected a Democratic state representative. | 马尔拉戈选举民主党州代表. |
| 41 | Sarasota's red wall fell last night. | 萨拉索塔的红墙昨晚倒塌了 |
| 42 | Voters want change. | 选民希望改变。 |
| 43 | Byron Donalds is promising more of the same, and we're the candidate of change. | 拜伦·唐纳德斯(英语:Byron Donalds)承诺更多相同,我们是变革的候选人. |
| 44 | Well, you know, you talk about the broader environment. | 嗯,你知道,你谈论 更广泛的环境。 |
| 45 | If you look at the numbers, more Republicans turned out for the Republican primary than Democrats turned out for the Democratic primary. | 如果你看看数字,共和党初选的共和党人比民主党初选的民主党人多. |
| 46 | You see the numbers right here. | 你看这里的数字。 |
| 47 | It's a big gap, Congressman. | 这是一个很大的缺口,议员。 |
| 48 | How do you close that enthusiasm gap between now and November? | 从现在到11月,你如何缩小热情差距? |
| 49 | And presumably you've got to win over some independents as well. | 估计你也得赢一些独立人士 |
| 50 | Yeah, you had a much more competitive environment on the Republican side last night. | 你昨晚在共和党那边的竞争环境要好得多 |
| 51 | Byron Donalds had spent $55 million. | 拜伦·唐纳德斯花了5500万美元 |
| 52 | He was endorsed by the president and still more Republicans voted against him than voted for him. | 他得到了总统的认可,仍然有更多的共和党人对他投了反对票,而不是对他投了支持票. |
| 53 | You had three other candidates with significant followings. | 你还有其他三个候选人 有着显著的追随者 |
| 54 | We had been able to unify our Democratic primary. | 我们得以统一我们的民主初级。 |
| 55 | So I think that impacted turnout. | 所以我觉得这影响了投票率。 |
| 56 | But here's the most important thing. | 但这是最重要的事情。 |
| 57 | Translate that to the general election. | 把这译为大选. |
| 58 | That's fine. | 没关系 |
| 59 | In all the elections I just mentioned, the night that Mar-a-Lago, Republican Mar-a-Lago, elected a Democratic state representative in Hillsborough County that same night, | 在我刚才提到的所有选举中,当晚共和党人马尔拉戈在希尔斯伯勒县选举民主党州代表, |
| 60 | a Republican community elected a Democratic state representative. | 一个共和党社区选举了一名民主党州代表。 |
| 61 | Kristin, more Republicans voted than Democrats in those races. | 克里斯廷,在这些种族中,共和党人比民主党人投了更多的选票. |
| 62 | And so I think we're in an environment where people understand you don't have to be a Democrat to vote for a Democrat. | 所以,我认为我们是在一个环境 人们明白 你不必是一个民主党人 投票给民主党。 |
| 63 | That's not every environment we have. | 这不是我们所有的环境。 |
| 64 | I'm leading with Democratic values. | 我以民主价值观为首 |
| 65 | The economy should work. | 经济应该发挥作用。 |
| 66 | Government can do its part. | 政府可以尽自己的一份力量。 |
| 67 | Everyone's rights should be protected. | 应当保护每个人的权利。 |
| 68 | But in a moment where people are looking for change, independents and Republicans are saying, | 但是,在人们正在寻找变革的时刻,独立派和共和派说, |
| 69 | look, if you'll focus on the basics, housing, health care, education, return to local control, | 你看,如果你会专注于 基础,住房,保健,教育, 回到当地控制, |
| 70 | keep government lean and efficient and out of my life, that's what I'm talking about. | 保持政府精干高效,远离我的生活,这就是我说的. |
| 71 | Byron Donald is doing this crazy talk about radicalism and launching the culture wars and spending money to try to divide us. | 拜伦·唐纳德(Byron Donald)在做这种疯狂的谈论激进主义,并发动文化战争和花钱试图分裂我们. |
| 72 | We're also a nation that's broken and we're looking for something better in our politics. | 我们也是一个破碎的民族,在政治中寻找更好的东西. |
| 73 | It's not Byron. | 这不是拜伦。 |
| 74 | Well, let me ask you about Byron Donald. | 我问你拜伦·唐纳德的事 |
| 75 | You heard what he said about you in the introduction. | 你听过他在介绍中对你说的话 |
| 76 | He's also called you a Trojan horse for the far left. | 他还叫你"特洛伊木马" 用于左边 |
| 77 | Are you? | 是吗? |
| 78 | How do you respond to that? | 你怎么回应的? |
| 79 | Byron Donald calls me radical. | 拜伦唐纳德叫我激进。 |
| 80 | I'm not even cool, Kristin. | 我一点都不酷,克莉丝汀 |
| 81 | I'm a former Republican. | 我是前共和党员 |
| 82 | I was an independent. | 我是一个独立人士。 |
| 83 | I reject socialism. | 我拒绝社会主义。 |
| 84 | 我拒绝DSA。 | |
| 85 | I'm a capitalist that believes capitalism creates the greatest amount of economic opportunity. | 我是一个资本家,相信资本主义创造了最大的经济机会. |
| 86 | I also know since World War Two, both Republicans and Democrats have realized there are some things the private sector won't solve for us. | 我也知道自从二战以来,共和党和民主党都意识到,有些事情私营部门不会为我们解决. |
| 87 | Homeowners insurance reform in a natural disaster state. | 自然灾害状态下的房主保险改革. |
| 88 | I think we need a state catastrophic fund. | 我认为我们需要一个国家灾难基金。 |
| 89 | The delivery of primary health care to families that can't afford it. | 向负担不起的家庭提供初级保健. |
| 90 | A celebration of public education, investments in clean air and clean water. | 庆祝公共教育,投资清洁空气和清洁水. |
| 91 | Look, I'm a Bush 41 Republican who left the party, became an independent. | 听着,我是一个布什41共和党人 谁离开党,成为一个独立。 |
| 92 | Today I'm a proud Florida Democrat, not a reluctant one. | 今天我是一个骄傲的佛罗里达民主党人,而不是一个不情愿的人. |
| 93 | But Byron Donald is using all of this scare tactics because they don't have an answer in Trump's economy to improve people's personal lives. | 但拜伦·唐纳德正在使用所有这些吓人的战术,因为他们在特朗普的经济中没有答案来改善人们的个人生活. |
| 94 | So he launches the culture wars. | 于是他发动了文化战争. |
| 95 | He uses the scare tactics. | 他用恐怖战术 |
| 96 | Interestingly, Kristin, last night in his acceptance speech, he mentioned me five or six times, manned on me a couple of times. | 有趣的是,克丽丝汀,昨晚在他的接受演讲中, 他提到我5到6次, 人在我身上几次。 |
| 97 | Not once. | 一次也没有 |
| 98 | Not once did he mention President Trump. | 他一次也没有提到川普总统. |
| 99 | He is Donald Trump's guy. | 他是唐纳德·特朗普的人 |
| 100 | I've encouraged Byron. | 我鼓励拜伦。 |
| 101 | Campaign with Donald Trump in Florida. | 与唐纳德·特朗普在佛罗里达州的竞选. |
| 102 | Defend the current economy in the state of Florida. | 捍卫佛罗里达州目前的经济. |
| 103 | He's already a Republican running away from his Republican president right now. | 他现在已经是一个共和党人 正在逃避他的共和党总统 |
| 104 | Let me follow up with you on that point. | 让我就此与你进行进一步探讨。 |
| 105 | You just said you reject the DSA. | 你刚才说你拒绝DSA |
| 106 | Angie Nixon is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. | 安吉·尼克松是美国民主社会党成员. |
| 107 | Is the Democratic tent big enough for both you and Angie Nixon? | 民主党的帐篷够大吗? |
| 108 | Do you welcome Democratic Socialists? | 你欢迎民主社会主义者吗? |
| 109 | I do not support Democratic Socialists. | 我不支持民主社会主义者。 |
| 110 | I reject Democratic Socialists. | 我拒绝民主社会主义者。 |
| 111 | I reject Socialism. | 我拒绝社会主义。 |
| 112 | I'm a capitalist. | 我是资本家 |
| 113 | Here's what I can tell you about Angie Nixon. | 关于安琪·尼克松,我可以告诉你 |
| 114 | But is there room in the Democratic Party for both of you? | 但是民主党里有你们两个人的空间吗? |
| 115 | Is there room in the Democratic Party for both of you? | 民主党里有你们两人的空间吗? |
| 116 | I don't think Democratic Socialists represent Democratic values. | 我不认为民主社会主义者代表民主价值观. |
| 117 | But I'm not running to referee the Democratic Party conversation. | 但我不会竞选 裁判民主党谈话。 |
| 118 | I'm running to be governor of the state of Florida. | 我要竞选佛罗里达州州长 |
| 119 | But I want to give credit to Angie Nixon on something. | 但我想对安琪·尼克松有所评价 |
| 120 | I've run a lot in Child's campaign. | 我在Child的竞选中跑了很多 |
| 121 | I've been all around the state of Florida. | 我一直在佛罗里达州周围 |
| 122 | 300 town halls, red, blue, purple. | 300个市政厅,红色,蓝色,紫色. |
| 123 | You know who else has been in there? | 你知道还有谁在里面吗? |
| 124 | Angie. | 安琪,你好吗? |
| 125 | She hasn't been running a DSA campaign. | 她没参加过DSA运动 |
| 126 | She's been running a campaign that is in the community saying, | 她一直在开展一场运动 社区里说, |
| 127 | I want to help improve your life, improve your economic opportunities | 我想帮你改善生活,改善经济机会 |
| 128 | with housing, health care, and education. | 住房、保健和教育。 |
| 129 | She's a warrior who's been leaving it all on the field. | 她是一个勇士,一直把一切都留在了战场上. |
| 130 | And so last night voters said, we want that warrior. | 所以昨晚选民说 我们要那个战士 |
| 131 | Look, Angie, I have been in touch today. | 听着 安琪 我今天有联系 |
| 132 | I've been out of politics long enough to tell the truth, Chris. | 我退出政界已经足够长的时间 说实话,克里斯。 |
| 133 | And I'm going to be honest with you. | 亦复如是正觉. |
| 134 | Angie Nixon and I are going to disagree on a whole lot in this race. | 我和安琪·尼克松在这场比赛中 会有很多分歧 |
| 135 | We are. | 我们是。 |
| 136 | But I know she's a warrior fighting to improve people's lives | 但我知道她是一个战士 为了改善人们的生活而奋斗 |
| 137 | when it comes to housing, health care, and education, just as I am. | 在住房、医疗、教育方面 和我一样 |
| 138 | Give us a few days to meet, to have conversations. | 给我们几天时间见面 谈谈 |
| 139 | They're very different races, right? | 他们是非常不同的种族,对不对? |
| 140 | She's running for Senate. | 她竞选参议院议员. |
| 141 | I'm running for governor. | 我在竞选州长 |
| 142 | Very different jurisdictions. | 管辖权非常不同。 |
| 143 | But I do think on the basics, we can be united. | 但我确实认为,我们可以团结一致。 |
| 144 | Improving people's lives by improving their economy. | 通过改善经济改善民生. |
| 145 | I'm certainly willing to draw that contrast to Byron Donalds or Ashley Moody this cycle. | 我当然愿意和拜伦·唐纳德斯 或阿什利·穆迪这个循环作对比 |
| 146 | Do you plan to campaign with Angie Nixon? | 你打算跟安琪·尼克松竞选吗? |
| 147 | Let's see how the next several months unfold. | 让我们看看接下来的几个月是如何展开的。 |
| 148 | I will tell you this. | 我告诉你 |
| 149 | I really mean this. | 我是认真的 |
| 150 | I am committed to unity. | 我致力于团结。 |
| 151 | So that's not a yes? | 所以,这不是同意? |
| 152 | That's not a yes, Congressman? | 这不是同意,议员? |
| 153 | Oh, listen, we have already campaigned together. | 听着 我们已经一起竞选了 |
| 154 | But now that we're in the general election, do you plan to campaign with Angie Nixon? | 但是既然我们参加大选了 你打算跟安琪·尼克松竞选吗? |
| 155 | I imagine she and I will certainly be at campaign events together. | 我想她和我会一起参加竞选活动 |
| 156 | I'm the Democratic nominee for governor. | 我是民主党州长候选人 |
| 157 | She's the Democratic nominee for Senate. | 她是参议院的民主党候选人 |
| 158 | But I want to be very clear about this. | 但我想非常清楚这一点。 |
| 159 | There are areas where we're going to agree. | 有一些领域,我们将达成一致。 |
| 160 | There are areas where we are really going to disagree. | 有些领域我们确实会不同意。 |
| 161 | Most of those areas might be on foreign policy where her views on Israel are very different than mine. | 这些领域大多可能涉及外交政策,她对以色列的看法与我的看法大不相同。 |
| 162 | And that's a different constituency that we each will attract or not. | 这是我们各自会吸引或不吸引的不同选区。 |
| 163 | That's fine. | 没关系 |
| 164 | The important thing is that we're honest with voters. | 重要的是我们对选民是诚实的. |
| 165 | Because you know what? | 因为你知道吗? |
| 166 | Byron Donalds isn't honest with voters. | 拜伦·唐纳德斯对选民不诚实. |
| 167 | The leading most successful socialist in the country right now is Donald Trump, | 现在全国最成功的社会主义者是唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 168 | who has taken the federal government into financial positions with Intel, Nvidia, Nippon, and all these other companies. | 他把联邦政府 与英特尔,恩维迪亚,日本, 和所有这些其他公司。 |
| 169 | I'm at least willing to call out socialism on the left and the right. | 我至少愿意喊出社会主义的左右两面. |
| 170 | Byron Donalds doesn't have the courage to do that. | 拜伦·唐纳德斯没有勇气这样做. |
| 171 | He's talking about socialism in the Democratic Party and he's ignoring it in the Republican Party. | 他在民主党里谈论社会主义,在共和党里却忽略了社会主义. |
| 172 | This is also a test of honesty in our politics. | 这也是对我们政治诚实的考验. |
| 173 | I'm willing to lay it all on the field and be honest. | 我愿意把一切都写在地上 说实话 |
| 174 | When I disagree with Angie, I'll speak of it. | 我和安琪意见不一,我会说 |
| 175 | When I disagree with Byron or Donald Trump, I'm going to speak of it. | 当我不同意拜伦或唐纳德·特朗普的话,我会谈论这件事. |
| 176 | It is Byron Donalds who is too cowardly, too cowardly, | 是拜伦·唐纳德斯太懦弱 太懦弱了 |
| 177 | to actually recognize that Trump's economy is crippling Florida, | 承认特朗普的经济正在摧毁佛罗里达州 |
| 178 | that he's promoting socialism as president of the United States, | 作为美国总统,他提倡社会主义, |
| 179 | that culture wars are dividing us and breaking us as a people. | 文化战争正在分裂我们,使我们作为一个民族崩溃。 |
| 180 | I'm willing to take this fight. | 我愿意参加这场战斗。 |
| 181 | I'll do it alongside Angie Nixon. | 我和安琪·尼克松一起来 |
| 182 | I'm going to take it right to Byron Donalds. | 我要把它对准拜伦唐纳德斯。 |
| 183 | And I hear you saying you agree on some things, you disagree on other things. | 我听到你说你同意一些事情, 你不同意其他事情。 |
| 184 | Will you support her? | 你会支持她吗? |
| 185 | Will you in fact vote for her on Election Day? | 你在选举日会投票支持她吗? |
| 186 | I imagine Angie and I will be supporting each other on Election Day. | 我想安琪和我将在选举日互相支持 |
| 187 | This all happened in the last 24 hours. | 这一切都发生在过去24小时。 |
| 188 | Angie, I'm keeping it real honest here. | 安琪,我在这里很诚实 |
| 189 | Angie and I have been in touch today. | 安琪和我今天一直在联系。 |
| 190 | Give us a few days to meet to see exactly where we are on some issues. | 给我们几天时间开会,看看我们在某些问题上的确切位置。 |
| 191 | I need some explanations from her. | 我需要她解释 |
| 192 | I'm sure she needs some explanations from me. | 我肯定她需要我解释 |
| 193 | I'm a former Republican who's been a Democrat for about 14 months. | 我是一位前共和党人,曾担任民主党人约14个月. |
| 194 | I think it's okay to be honest that sometimes there are these family conversations to be had. | 老实说,我觉得应该有些家庭对话 |
| 195 | What I will tell you is the Democratic Party is united on three basic values. | 我要告诉你的是,民主党在三个基本价值观上团结一致。 |
| 196 | The economy should work for everyone. | 经济应该为所有人服务。 |
| 197 | Government can do a little bit to improve our lives and everyone's rights should be protected. | 政府可以做一些事情来改善我们的生活,每个人的权利都应该受到保护。 |
| 198 | Those are not the values of Byron Donalds and Donald Trump and Ashley Moody. | 这不是拜伦·唐纳德斯、唐纳德·特朗普和阿什利·穆迪的价值观。 |
| 199 | They're fighting for the economy to work for some, but not everybody else. | 他们为经济而斗争,为某些人工作,但不是其他人. |
| 200 | They're trying to crush government's investments in housing, health care, and education, | 他们试图压垮政府在住房、医疗保健和教育方面的投资, |
| 201 | and they've launched culture wars to divide us. | 他们发动文化战争来分裂我们 |
| 202 | Look, we can be honest that sometimes politics is messy. | 听着,我们可以诚实地说, 有时候政治是混乱的。 |
| 203 | That's okay. | 没关系 |
| 204 | I think voters want honesty. | 我认为选民想要诚实。 |
| 205 | Where Angie and I disagree, we'll disagree. | 我和安琪不同意,我们不同意 |
| 206 | But I'll tell you who I disagree more with, Byron Donalds. | 但我会告诉你我更不同意谁 拜伦·唐纳德斯 |
| 207 | I think he's wrong for Florida every single day of the year. | 我觉得他每年每一天都对佛罗里达州不利 |
| 208 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 209 | Former Congressman David Jolly, thank you so very much for joining us. | 前众议员大卫·乔利 非常感谢你加入我们 |
| 210 | Hope you'll come back and join us between now and Election Day. | 希望从现在起到选举日你会回来加入我们 |
| 211 | Really appreciate it. | 非常感谢 |
| 212 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
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