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英国举行乌克兰峰会 首相斯塔默力挺泽连斯基 | 2025.3

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0:03Hello and welcome to Downing Street, I'm Anita McVey and here at BBC News we are going to你好 欢迎来到唐宁街 我是安妮塔·麦克维 在BBC新闻台
0:08be keeping you right up to date throughout the day on all the developments in this crucial随时向您通报这一重大事件的最新进展
0:13Ukraine war summit, which is taking place just a stone's throw from here.乌克兰战争高峰会议 正在这里举行 只是一块石头
0:19In the words用词
0:19of the BBC's political editor Chris Mason, the stakes for this summit are colossal.英国广播公司政治编辑克里斯・梅森 本次峰会的利害关系是巨大的
0:25After之后
0:25that extraordinary meeting in the Oval Office involving President Trump and President Zelensky特朗普总统和泽连斯基总统出席的奥瓦尔办公室特别会议
0:31on Friday, two obvious and huge questions.在星期五,有两个明显和巨大的问题。
0:35One, will leaders gathered here today be focusing第一,今天聚集在这里的领袖们将集中精神
0:39on trying to work out how they can patch up that relationship?试图找出他们如何弥补这种关系?
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1Hello and welcome to Downing Street, I'm Anita McVey and here at BBC News we are going to你好 欢迎来到唐宁街 我是安妮塔·麦克维 在BBC新闻台
2be keeping you right up to date throughout the day on all the developments in this crucial随时向您通报这一重大事件的最新进展
3Ukraine war summit, which is taking place just a stone's throw from here.乌克兰战争高峰会议 正在这里举行 只是一块石头
4In the words用词
5of the BBC's political editor Chris Mason, the stakes for this summit are colossal.英国广播公司政治编辑克里斯・梅森 本次峰会的利害关系是巨大的
6After之后
7that extraordinary meeting in the Oval Office involving President Trump and President Zelensky特朗普总统和泽连斯基总统出席的奥瓦尔办公室特别会议
8on Friday, two obvious and huge questions.在星期五,有两个明显和巨大的问题。
9One, will leaders gathered here today be focusing第一,今天聚集在这里的领袖们将集中精神
10on trying to work out how they can patch up that relationship?试图找出他们如何弥补这种关系?
11Obviously they will.显然他们会的
12But不过
13also plan B, what will they do if they can't fix those problems that we saw between President还有B计划 如果他们不能解决总统之间的问题 他们会怎么做?
14Zelensky of Ukraine and US President Donald Trump on Friday?乌克兰的泽连斯基和美国总统唐纳德·特朗普在星期五?
15So a huge amount at stake这么大的赌注
16today.今时.
17Well, we got some insight into the direction of travel a little earlier when嗯,我们得到了一些洞察 旅行的方向 稍早一点,当
18the Prime Minister, Sir Keir Starmer, was speaking to the BBC's Laura Kunzberg.首相基尔·斯塔默爵士正在英国广播公司的劳拉·昆茨贝格演讲。
19He was他曾经是
20asked for his reaction first of all to what happened in the Oval Office on Friday between要求他首先对周五在总统办公室发生的事作出反应
21Presidents Trump and Zelensky.川普总统和泽连斯基总统.
22Clearly there's a lot of tension, the cameras were on, nobody很明显,有很多紧张, 摄像头是,没有人
23wants to see that.想看看这个
24But I spoke to President Trump, I spoke to President Zelensky.但我和特朗普总统谈过了,我和泽连斯基总统谈过了.
25Obviously很明显
26we then had President Zelensky to Downing Street yesterday and I spoke to President我们昨天让泽连斯基总统去唐宁街 我跟总统谈过
27Macron after that and then to President Trump.之后是麦克伦,然后是特朗普总统.
28And the purpose, or my driving purpose has目的,或者我的驾驶目的
29been to bridge this, if you like, and get us back to the central focus.如果你愿意的话 一直是为了弥补这个问题 让我们回到中心焦点
30And as a result结果
31of the meeting yesterday, we had quite a long time with President Zelensky, then President在昨天的会议中,我们与时任总统泽连斯基总统进行了相当长一段时间的会谈。
32Macron and President Trump on the phone.麦克龙和特朗普总统通过电话.
33We've now agreed that the United Kingdom, along我们现在同意英国
34with France and possibly one or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan to stop the与法国以及可能与另外一两个国家合作,与乌克兰共同制定一项计划,制止
35fighting and then we'll discuss that plan with the United States.然后我们和美国讨论这个计划
36So in those calls所以在这些电话
37on Friday night, through the meeting yesterday into the calls again last night, I think we've周五晚上,通过昨天的会议 到昨晚的电话,我想我们已经
38got a step in the right direction because, as I say, nobody wants to see what happened朝着正确的方向迈出了一步,因为,正如我所说, 没有人想看到发生了什么
39on Friday, but it's really important that we keep our central focus, which is lasting周五,但我们必须保持 我们的中心焦点,这是持久的
40peace in Ukraine.乌克兰的和平。
41Nobody wants any more bloodshed.没人想再流血了
42And everybody wants to hear the details of每个人都想听 细节
43what the proposals might be that you are trying to get agreed.这些提议是什么,你试图达成一致。
44But what happens matters so但发生的事很重要
45much because it's about the trust and the relationship between the two men at the centre大部分是因为关于 信任和两个男人的关系 在中心
46of this, President Zelensky and President Trump.泽连斯基总统和特朗普总统
47President Trump said it's difficult川普总统说很困难
48to do business like this.做这样的生意。
49He made it completely clear that he didn't have in that moment very他完全说清楚了 他当时并没有什么
50much sympathy for Ukraine.对乌克兰非常同情
51He was berating President Zelensky, telling him he should他正在讨好泽伦斯基总统 告诉他应该
52be grateful.感谢。
53And I think, Prime Minister, anyone who's known you for a long time would我认为,总理,任何认识你很久的人
54have a pretty good guess that you would have felt deeply uncomfortable watching what played你猜对了,看戏会觉得很不舒服
55out, did you?是吗?
56Yes, I felt uncomfortable.是的,我觉得不舒服。
57Nobody wants to see that.没人想看
58But the important thing但重要的是
59is how to react to that.如何对此作出反应。
60There are a number of different routes people could go down.有很多不同的路线 人们可以下去。
61One is to ramp up the rhetoric as to how outraged we all are or not.其一是夸夸其谈,说明我们是否都感到愤怒。
62The other is to另一个是
63do what I did, which is roll up my sleeves, pick up the phone, talk to President Trump,做我所做的,这就是卷起我的袖子, 拿起电话,和川普总统说话,
64talk to President Zelensky, then invite President Zelensky for an extensive meeting yesterday,然后邀请泽连斯基总统 参加昨天的广泛会议
65warm welcome, and then further pick up the phone to President Macron and President Trump热烈欢迎,然后进一步接电话给马克龙总统和特朗普总统
66afterwards.之后会的
67Because my reaction was we have to bridge this.因为我的反应是 我们必须弥补这个。
68We have to find a way that我们必须想办法
69we can all work together.我们可以一起工作。
70Because in the end, we've had three years of bloody conflict now.因为最后,我们经历了三年的血腥冲突
71We need to get to that lasting peace.我们需要实现持久和平。
72And I have to say, I've spoken to President Trump我必须说,我和特朗普总统谈过了
73a number of times.数次.
74I've met him twice.我见过他两次
75We had a long session on Thursday.我们周四开了很长的会
76I'm clear我说清楚了
77in my mind that he does want lasting peace.在我看来,他确实想要持久和平。
78He does want an end to the fighting in Ukraine.他确实想要结束乌克兰的战斗。
79I'm absolutely clear that's what his motive is.他的动机就是这个
80I agree with that.我同意这一点。
81President Zelensky泽连斯基总统
82agrees with that.同意这一点。
83I think everybody agrees with that apart from Putin.我认为,除了普京之外,每个人都同意这一点。
84And in the end,最终
85that remains the central most important thing, which is why we took a step forward in my view这也是为什么我认为我们向前迈出了一步
86last night when we agreed that we would work on a plan for stopping the fighting and then,昨晚我们同意 制定停止战斗的计划 然后
87as it were, discuss that plan with the United States.就像以前一样,与美国讨论这个计划。
88That's a step forward from where we were那是从我们以前的地方向前迈出的一步
89on Friday and an important step forward.周五是一个重要的进步
90Sir Keir Starmer, the UK Prime Minister.基尔·斯塔默爵士,英国首相.
91Well,那个
92the Conservative leader was also asked what she thinks about Keir Starmer's plan for the UK and保守党领袖还被问到,她对凯尔·斯塔默的英国计划和
93France to work with Kiev to stop the war.法国与基辅合作阻止战争.
94I think we need to know, as you say, exactly what that我想我们需要知道,正如你说的, 确切的是什么
95means.意味着。
96Last week, I did ask him when he talked about putting British troops on the ground,上星期,我问他,当他谈论 把英国军队的地面,
97where was the money coming from?钱是从哪里来的?
98What were the guarantees around that?那有什么保证?
99We certainly shouldn't我们当然不该
100be doing it on our own.只能靠我们自己
101And, you know, looking at the scenes from last week, it's really important你看上星期的场景 这很重要
102that this summit that the Prime Minister is having today goes well.总理今天举行的这次首脑会议进展顺利。
103We support him in that.我们在这方面支持他。
104This is a key issue of national interest for us.这是我们国家利益的一个关键问题。
105There is not a difference between the两者没有区别
106Conservative and Labour parties in terms of the extent of support that we have for Ukraine.保守党和工党对我们乌克兰的支持程度。
107People know what we did under Prime Minister Johnson and his successors, and we want to人们知道我们在约翰逊总理及其继任者领导下做了什么,我们想
108make sure that the Prime Minister is successful in helping Ukraine, but also in maintaining our确保乌克兰总理在帮助乌克兰方面取得成功,同时保持乌克兰的民主。
109national interest at all times.国家利益在任何时候。
110What did you think when you saw those scenes in the Oval Office当你看到那些场景时 你怎么想的?
111on Friday night with President Trump berating President Zelenskyy?周五晚上,特朗普总统 向泽连斯基总统发牢骚?
112Honestly, my heart went out to President Zelenskyy.老实说,我对泽连斯基总统心存信心
113I watched it and I couldn't believe我看着它,我不敢相信
114what was happening.发生了什么事。
115He was being humiliated.他被羞辱了。
116I don't think we should conduct these sorts of我觉得我们不应该进行这种
117difficult conversations in front of the cameras.在摄像机前很难交谈
118And we have to remember that President Zelenskyy我们必须记住泽连斯基总统
119is a hero.是一个英雄。
120He is the person who represents that strength and resilience of the Ukrainian people.他是代表乌克兰人民这种力量和韧性的人。
121Whatever differences and difficulties we might have during negotiations, we need to be able to无论我们在谈判期间可能有什么分歧和困难,我们需要能够
122set them aside when everyone is watching, because the only person who would have liked that would当每个人都在看的时候, 把他们放在一边, 因为唯一愿意这样做的人,
123have been Vladimir Putin.曾经是弗拉基米尔·普京。
124Let me tell you who is going to be at this crucial meeting today.让我告诉你,谁将出席今天这次重要会议。
125It is quite a list, which is why I have it all in front of me, so I don't leave anyone out.这是一个相当的列表, 这就是为什么我有这一切在我面前, 所以我不离开任何人。
126Just to say first of all that we are expecting the Italian Prime Minister, Giorgio Maloney,首先,我们期待意大利总理乔治·马洛尼
127to arrive at Downing Street a little later before heading to that meeting, which is taking place稍后抵达唐宁街 然后再去参加那次会议
128at Lancaster House.在兰开斯特之家
129So there will be the leaders of Ukraine, France, Germany, Denmark, Italy,因此会有乌克兰,法国,德国,丹麦,意大利的领导人,
130the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Czechia and Romania.荷兰、挪威、波兰、西班牙、加拿大、芬兰、瑞典、捷克和罗马尼亚。
131The Turkish土耳其人
132Foreign Minister will be there, the NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte will be there, and the外交部长将出席,北约秘书长马克·鲁特将出席,
133Presidents of the European Commission and the European Council will be there.欧洲联盟委员会和欧洲理事会的主席将出席。
134So it is a huge所以,这是一个巨大的
135gathering, hosted of course by the UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer.由英国首相基尔·斯塔默爵士主持。
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