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0:01Sources tell CBS News the U.S. military used Claude for its attack on Iran over the weekend.消息人士表示,美国军方利用克劳德在周末袭击伊朗.
0:07Now, the Pentagon's ongoing use of Anthropic's AI model comes despite a falling out with the company现在,五角大楼正在使用Anthropic的AI模型 尽管与公司一起倒闭
0:14over its refusal to grant the military unrestricted access to the technology.不允许军方不受限制地获得技术。
0:19Now, hours after the Trump administration ditched Anthropic over the dispute,在特朗普政府放弃Anthropic的争议数小时后
0:24OpenAI swooped in and struck its own deal with the Pentagon.OpenAI冲进来 自己和五角大楼达成交易
0:28Now, the details of that agreement appear to be changing.现在,该协定的细节似乎正在改变。
0:31After facing backlash, CEO Sam Altman says he's working with the government to, quote,在面对反弹后,CEO萨姆·阿尔特曼表示他正在与政府合作,
0:36make some additions.做一些补充。
0:38So I want to bring in Katrina Manson, Bloomberg News reporter and author of the forthcoming book所以我想请来卡特里娜·曼森 彭博社记者兼即将出版的书的作者
0:42Project Maven, A Marine Colonel, His Team, and the Dawn of AI Warfare.马文计划,一个海军上校,他的团队, 和AI战争的黎明。
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1Sources tell CBS News the U.S. military used Claude for its attack on Iran over the weekend.消息人士表示,美国军方利用克劳德在周末袭击伊朗.
2Now, the Pentagon's ongoing use of Anthropic's AI model comes despite a falling out with the company现在,五角大楼正在使用Anthropic的AI模型 尽管与公司一起倒闭
3over its refusal to grant the military unrestricted access to the technology.不允许军方不受限制地获得技术。
4Now, hours after the Trump administration ditched Anthropic over the dispute,在特朗普政府放弃Anthropic的争议数小时后
5OpenAI swooped in and struck its own deal with the Pentagon.OpenAI冲进来 自己和五角大楼达成交易
6Now, the details of that agreement appear to be changing.现在,该协定的细节似乎正在改变。
7After facing backlash, CEO Sam Altman says he's working with the government to, quote,在面对反弹后,CEO萨姆·阿尔特曼表示他正在与政府合作,
8make some additions.做一些补充。
9So I want to bring in Katrina Manson, Bloomberg News reporter and author of the forthcoming book所以我想请来卡特里娜·曼森 彭博社记者兼即将出版的书的作者
10Project Maven, A Marine Colonel, His Team, and the Dawn of AI Warfare.马文计划,一个海军上校,他的团队, 和AI战争的黎明。
11Very topical for this time.这个时候很热门
12Katrina, we spoke on Friday about the timing of the standoff between Anthropic and the Pentagon.卡特里娜,我们周五谈过 安特罗皮克和五角大楼对峙的时间
13While a huge military presence was building off the coast of Iran,当在伊朗海岸外建立庞大的军事存在时,
14you recently had an exclusive report about Anthropic submitting a proposal to compete你最近有一份独家报告 关于Anthropic提交一个竞争提案
15in a Pentagon prize challenge to produce autonomous drone swarming.在五角大楼大奖挑战 生产自主无人机升温。
16What did you learn about that?你学到了什么?
17The lines really are so murky.线条真的很模糊
18Anthropic submitted a bid for this extraordinary challenge.Anthropic为这个非同寻常的挑战投标。
19It's a $100 million prize challenge being run by a division of the Defense Department国防部的一个部门 正在进行一场价值1亿美元的比赛
20由特种作战司令部(Special Operation Command),简称DOG,国防自主战争集团,
21and another group that tries to gain outreach from Silicon Valley companies, DIU.以及另一个试图从硅谷公司,DIU取得联系的团体.
22And together, they're trying to create voice-controlled autonomous drone swarming tech.他们一起试图创建 语音控制的无人机自动升温技术。
23It's research and development, but it has attracted a number of companies already, I've reported,这是研究与开发, 但已经吸引了一些公司,我已经报告,
24SpaceX and XAI, and OpenAI was named on two bids, not as the lead contractor, but the secondary.SpaceX和XAI,和OpenAI在两个竞标中被命名,不是作为主承包商,而是次要承包商.
25But what really got my eye is this new reporting that Anthropic also submitted a bid for that.但真正吸引我目光的是 这个新的报道,Anthropic 也为此投标。
26It doesn't seem to have been chosen, we've reported at Bloomberg,似乎没有被选中 我们在彭博社报到
27but Anthropic, I learned, according to a person familiar with the matter,但根据一位熟悉此事的人, 我了解到,
28didn't think that this deal crossed its own red line.没想到这个交易会超越自己的红线
29And of course, when you do look at Dario Amadei's comments in public,当然,当你在公开场合看达里奥·阿马迪的评论时,
30he said he's against fully autonomous weapons only because the AI is not yet reliable.他说他反对完全自主的武器 只是因为人工智能还不可靠
31He is not against the idea in theory.他在理论上并不反对这个想法。
32And so I do think we're really seeing this onset of a new form of future war.因此,我认为我们真的看到 新的战争的开始。
33Now, after the fallout between Anthropic and the Pentagon,在Anthropic和五角大楼发生事故后
34Sam Altman with OpenAI said that he wants to make some changes to the deal he struck with the U.S. government.山姆·阿尔特曼(Sam Altman)与OpenAI说,他想对与美国政府的交易做出一些改变.
35In fact, last night, Altman posted to social media writing in part,事实上,昨晚,Altman在社交媒体上发文,
36quote, we shouldn't have rushed to get this out on Friday.引用,我们不应该 匆忙得到这个星期五。
37The issues are super complex and demand clear communication.这些问题非常复杂,需要明确的沟通。
38We were generally trying to de-escalate things and avoid a much worse outcome.我们一般都在试图缓和事态,避免更糟糕的结果。
39But I think it just over it looked opportunistic and sloppy.但我认为它只是 它看起来机会主义和草率。
40So, Katrina, we now know OpenAI face a lot of backlash for working with the government.因此,卡特里娜,我们现在知道 OpenAI 面对许多反弹 与政府合作。
41Is that why Altman is changing his tune, do you think?所以阿尔特曼才改变他的曲子 你觉得呢?
42Well, according to the Wall Street Journal, which has a fantastic report out today,根据《华尔街日报》 今天的报导很精彩
43he's saying in an all hands meeting at a town hall that it's been really painful.他在市政厅的全体集会上说 这真的很痛苦
44So in the way he's couching it to his own people, according to this report,所以根据这份报道 他向自己人说
45it does suggest that they were seen to be opportunistic, as he said himself,这确实表明,正如他本人所说,他们被认为是机会主义的,
46Friday night swooping in on that deal, saying they'd made a deal that would be comfortable for Anthropic as well.周五晚上在做那笔交易 说他们做了一个对安特罗皮克也舒适的交易
47There's been no public sense that it is comfortable for Anthropic.大众未曾觉其安乐安乐.
48The red lines do still seem to apply.红线似乎仍然适用。
49And then, of course, OpenAI saying responding to that and saying they are going to add然后,当然,OpenAI 说对此的回应, 说他们要添加
50extra safeguards on top of the ones they already said were enough.在他们已经说过的保障措施之外,额外的保障措施已经足够了。
51They were saying that they would just do this work on the classified cloud, not the edge.他们说,他们只是做这项工作 在机密云,而不是边缘。
52They're now saying they will not be striking any deals with the National Security Agency他们现在说不会和国家安全局有任何交易
53or any intelligence agencies that fall under the Department of War or the Pentagon.或者任何隶属于战争部或五角大楼的情报机构
54That would mean also the Defense Intelligence Agency.这也意味着国防情报局。
55These, of course, are the intelligence side of things.这些当然是事物的智能方面.
56So what they're trying to guard against there is any risk of mass domestic surveillance,所以他们试图防范的 是国内大规模监控的风险,
57which the Pentagon already says it is not permitted to do under U.S. law.五角大楼已经说 根据美国法律是不允许这么做的
58So this is a very kind of frenetic stage where we're seeing a lot of back and forward on the language.因此,这是一个非常狂热的舞台, 在语言上,我们看到了很多前后向。
59And it's not clear if OpenAI has done enough to satisfy its own internal critics, never mind the external critics.而且还不清楚OpenAI是否做了足够的工作来满足自己的内部批评家,而不管外部批评家.
60I'm curious, what about the other big AI companies, notably Google and Meta?我很好奇,其他的大型AI公司呢,尤其是Google和Meta?
61他們在看Anthropic,OpenAI和五角大楼之間的裂痕嗎?
62as potentially opening a window to make their own pitch?可能打开一个窗口 做自己的投球?
63Well, besides OpenAI and Anthropic, XIAI has just recently struck a deal to get on to classified networks at the Pentagon.除了OpenAI和Anthropic之外 XIAI最近还达成协议 去五角大楼的机密网络
64And, of course, XAI was part of that bid for the drone swarming tech, as we reported at Bloomberg.当然,正如我们在布隆伯格报告的那样, XAI是无人机升温技术竞标的一部分。
65So I think there is certainly a big open window there.所以我认为那里肯定有一个很大的开放窗口。
66Google, of course, is already a long term partner of the Defense Department.当然,Google已经是国防部的长期合作伙伴。
67Since the days of Project Maven, when it said it would not renew an AI contract,自从马文项目 说不会续签AI合同以来
68it has dropped some of its caveats about working with the Defense Department.它放弃了与国防部合作的一些警告。
69It has cloud.有经云.
70It has several other elements.它有几个其他要素。
71And Meta has an open source model.而Meta也有开源模式.
72It doesn't, as far as I'm aware, have direct contracts with the Department of War, but it does work with several subcontractors.据我所知,它与战争部没有直接合同,但与几个分包商有合作关系.
73It has a partnership with Andrel, and that is on some of its most forward leaning tech in terms of它与Andrel建立了伙伴关系,这在它的一些最先进的技术方面是:
74visors for military operators to really bring data to the battlefield.给军事操作员带来真实的数据
75So both are already involved in military operations in terms of the tech supporting that already.因此,在技术支持方面,双方都已经参与了军事行动。
76Of course, there is always more that they could negotiate.当然,他们可以谈判的总是更多的。
77Yes, those were certainly lucrative contracts.是的,这些合同的确有利可图。
78I can imagine that other people would want them as well.我可以想象其他人也会想要他们。
79Katrina Manson, thank you so much.卡特里娜·曼森 非常感谢你
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