与女MAGA辩论：1位年轻的自由派对阵20位川普女粉丝 |
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:01 | I think that we need strong alpha males like Donald J. Trump, Spencer Pratt, and our loved | 我认为我们需要像唐纳德·J·特朗普、斯宾塞·普拉特这样的强壮的阿尔法雄性 还有我们爱的人 |
| 0:06 | Charlie Kirk. | 查理・柯克 |
| 0:07 | Did you just ironically say strong alpha males? | 你刚才是不是讽刺地说雄性强壮? |
| 0:10 | We have laws in favor of women getting leadership roles. | 我们有法律支持妇女获得领导地位。 |
| 0:12 | We're taking opportunities away from men. | 我们从男人那里夺走机会 |
| 0:14 | You are oppressed more than me. | 你比我还受压迫 |
| 0:16 | Men are men, and men have testosterone, and men love beautiful women. | 男人是男人,男人有睾丸酮,男人喜欢美女. |
| 0:19 | And trust me, I would prefer a man that actually looks at women and is sexually attracted to | 相信我,我更喜欢一个男人 真正看着女人,并被性吸引到 |
| 0:26 | women. | 女人们 |
| 0:27 | They had to make things up to get Trump. | 他们不得不弥补 事情得到特朗普。 |
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| 1 | I think that we need strong alpha males like Donald J. Trump, Spencer Pratt, and our loved | 我认为我们需要像唐纳德·J·特朗普、斯宾塞·普拉特这样的强壮的阿尔法雄性 还有我们爱的人 |
| 2 | Charlie Kirk. | 查理・柯克 |
| 3 | Did you just ironically say strong alpha males? | 你刚才是不是讽刺地说雄性强壮? |
| 4 | We have laws in favor of women getting leadership roles. | 我们有法律支持妇女获得领导地位。 |
| 5 | We're taking opportunities away from men. | 我们从男人那里夺走机会 |
| 6 | You are oppressed more than me. | 你比我还受压迫 |
| 7 | Men are men, and men have testosterone, and men love beautiful women. | 男人是男人,男人有睾丸酮,男人喜欢美女. |
| 8 | And trust me, I would prefer a man that actually looks at women and is sexually attracted to | 相信我,我更喜欢一个男人 真正看着女人,并被性吸引到 |
| 9 | women. | 女人们 |
| 10 | They had to make things up to get Trump. | 他们不得不弥补 事情得到特朗普。 |
| 11 | Trump doesn't have to be a sexual predator. | 特朗普不必是性掠夺者. |
| 12 | Any woman would love to be with Trump. | 任何女人都愿意和特朗普在一起 |
| 13 | All right, listen, put your hand up if you would have sex with Donald Trump. | 好吧,听着,把手举起来 如果你愿意和唐纳德・特朗普做爱。 |
| 14 | Has Donald Trump been a good president for women? | 唐纳德·特朗普当过女性好总统吗?. |
| 15 | Or has America moved backward from expanding women's rights to debating how far those rights | 或者美国从扩大妇女权利 转向辩论这些权利有多远 |
| 16 | should go? | 应该走吗? |
| 17 | I'm John Regalato, and from Jubilee Media, this is Surrounded, where one brave soul faces | 我是约翰・雷加拉托,从禧年媒体, 这是围观, 一个勇敢的灵魂面对 |
| 18 | a room full of disagreeers. | 一间充满异议的房间 |
| 19 | Today, we are diving into what feminism means on both sides of the aisle, abortion rights, | 今天,我们正在潜入 女性主义的意义 在过道两侧,堕胎的权利, |
| 20 | and President Trump's record. | 和川普总统的记录。 |
| 21 | I'm here with our featured guest, progressive commentator, Dean Withers. | 我和我们的著名嘉宾 进步评论家 Dean Withers一起来 |
| 22 | Welcome to the show. | 欢迎光临节目 |
| 23 | Thank you for having me. | 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 24 | You ready to go? | 你准备好了吗? |
| 25 | Oh, I'm excited. | 哦,我很兴奋。 |
| 26 | This will be fun. | 这将是乐趣。 |
| 27 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 28 | Are you all ready to debate, Dean? | 你们准备好辩论了吗 Dean? |
| 29 | Yeah! | 对! |
| 30 | All right, let's get into it. | 好吧,让我们开始吧。 |
| 31 | I'm Dean Withers. | 我是迪恩・威瑟斯 |
| 32 | I'm a 21-year-old liberal. | 我是一个21岁的自由主义者。 |
| 33 | I do political debate for a living, and today I'm surrounded by 20 Trump supporters again. | 我以政治辩论为生,今天我再次被20名特朗普支持者包围. |
| 34 | But this time, they're all women. | 但这次他们都是女人 |
| 35 | My first surrounded claim is, men aren't better at leading than women. | 我第一个被包围的说法是 男人比女人更擅长领头 |
| 36 | If you would like to debate this claim, please get to the chair in three, two, one. | 请在三、二、一时间里上台 |
| 37 | Good to see you again. | 很高兴再次见到你。 |
| 38 | Welcome back, Lori. | 欢迎回来,萝莉 |
| 39 | How you doing? | 你好吗? |
| 40 | I'm doing good. | 我做得不错。 |
| 41 | How are you? | 你好吗? |
| 42 | Oh, I'm doing phenomenal. | 哦,我在做惊人的。 |
| 43 | So the first claim is that men are not better at leading than women. | 因此第一种说法是男性在领导上并不比女性好. |
| 44 | And I'm honestly appalled that you as a woman would disagree. | 我真的很惊讶你作为一个女人会不同意 |
| 45 | But I mean, if you want to start it off by telling us why you do think men are better | 但是,如果你想开始 告诉我们你为什么认为男人更好 |
| 46 | at leading than women, the mic is all yours. | 麦克风是你的了 |
| 47 | Well, how I would like to start this off is I'd like you to define what a woman is. | 我首先想说的是 我希望你能确定一个女人是什么 |
| 48 | Well, sure. | 当然 |
| 49 | I think that the definition of what a woman is is ultimately irrelevant to this debate, | 我认为,妇女的定义最终与本次辩论无关, |
| 50 | and I'm willing to assume... | 我愿意假设... |
| 51 | No, it's not. | 不,这不是。 |
| 52 | I'm willing to pre-assume your definition of what a woman is, i.e. | 我愿意预先确认你对女人的定义,即 |
| 53 | an adult human female. | 成年人类女性 |
| 54 | See, if I were to give you my definition of what a woman is, an adult human individual | 你看,如果我给你我的定义 一个女人是什么, 一个成年人个体 |
| 55 | that pertains to the social and cultural characteristics typical that of a female sex indexed to their | 社会和文化特征的典型特征 |
| 56 | gender identity, well, then all of a sudden we're going to be speaking past one another | 性别认同,那么突然间,我们就要互相交谈了 |
| 57 | because we define the word woman differently. | 因为我们对女人的定义不同 |
| 58 | Exactly. | 没错 |
| 59 | So I'm more than happy to pre-assume your definition. | 所以,我非常高兴 预先确定你的定义。 |
| 60 | I think this place is kind of silly because you don't know what a woman is. | 我认为这个地方有点傻 因为你不知道女人是什么 |
| 61 | Well, I just told you what my definition of the word woman is. | 我刚告诉你我对女人的定义 |
| 62 | You just overlooked it. | 你只是忽略了这一点。 |
| 63 | You know, I think it would also depend on what leadership role that that person would | 你知道,我觉得这也取决于 什么样的领导作用的人会 |
| 64 | take. | 拿着 |
| 65 | For instance, if you wanted Kamala Harris, who you voted for, to be the president of | 例如,如果你希望你投票支持的卡马拉·哈里斯成为总统 |
| 66 | the United States, we have a problem with that, and I'll tell you why. | 美国,我们有一个问题, 我会告诉你为什么。 |
| 67 | It's not necessarily the woman, but it is necessarily foreign countries. | 不一定是女人,但一定是外国 |
| 68 | For instance, the Middle East. | 例如,中东。 |
| 69 | If I go to a Middle East country as a woman, I can't show my hair at risk of being | 如果我去一个中东国家 作为一个女人, 我不能展示我的头发 在风险是 |
| 70 | stoned. | 石头。 |
| 71 | Why are we talking about Middle Eastern countries when the prompt is men are not better than | 为什么我们谈论中东国家 当迅速是男人没有比 |
| 72 | women? | 女人吗? |
| 73 | Because you're asking about leading. | 因为你在问领导权 |
| 74 | You voted for Kamala Harris. | 你投给了卡马拉・哈里斯 |
| 75 | I think she would have been a horrible leader. | 我想她会是一个可怕的领导者。 |
| 76 | Foreign countries don't always see women as respectful as they see a man. | 外国不总是把女人看得像男人一样尊重. |
| 77 | A woman leading this country, for instance, when you go to doing foreign policy and all | 一个领导这个国家的女人, 例如当你去做外交政策和所有 |
| 78 | of those things, they would not have the respect that a man would. | 他们不会像男人那样尊重别人 |
| 79 | say as a woman, depending on your age, if I've got PMS, honey, I'm going to make different | 说作为一个女人,取决于你的年龄, 如果我有PMS,亲爱的,我会改变 |
| 80 | decisions than I would as if I didn't. | 做的决定比我想象的要好 |
| 81 | If I'm going through menopause, I might have hot flashes or whatever else. | 如果我经过更年期, 我可能会有热闪光 或其他什么。 |
| 82 | I believe as a Christian woman, men are supposed to lead. | 我相信作为一个基督教妇女,男人应该领导。 |
| 83 | We're supposed to help. | 我们应该帮忙的 |
| 84 | And I'm totally comfortable with that. | 我对此感到很自在。 |
| 85 | Well, thank you, Lori. | 谢谢你,萝莉 |
| 86 | So the first thing I want to point out here is that your position that maybe foreign countries | 所以我首先要指出的是 你的立场,也许外国 |
| 87 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}我并不认为有女性代表 | |
| 88 | through the fact that on the global stage, Harris had a significantly higher approval | 由于在全球舞台上,哈里斯获得了显著更高的认可 |
| 89 | rating than Trump during the election. | 评分比特朗普在选举期间. |
| 90 | And there's a reason for that. | 则有因缘. |
| 91 | Because she would have been a pushover. | 因为她会是一个推手。 |
| 92 | They would have got they would have walked right over her. | 他们会得到 他们会走过她。 |
| 93 | And that's exactly why she had significantly better policy, better character and a better | 所以她有更好的政策 更好的品格和更好的 |
| 94 | president for America. | 美国总统。 |
| 95 | But ultimately, once again, Lori, the topic of debate is not was Harris a better option | 但归根结底,洛莉,辩论的话题 不是哈里斯的更好选择 |
| 96 | for the president than Trump? | 总统比特朗普? |
| 97 | Because even if we want to look at women and men on this macroscopic level of evaluating | 因为即使我们想从宏观评价的角度来看待妇女和男子 |
| 98 | one woman compared to one man, even if it was true, Harris was a clown and Trump was | 一个女人和一个男人相比 即使是真的 哈里斯是个小丑 而特朗普是 |
| 99 | awesome. | 好厉害 |
| 100 | That still wouldn't mean that generally speaking, men are better at leading than women. | 这还是不意味着 总的来说,男人比女人更擅长领导。 |
| 101 | The last point that you made there was about PMS. | 你最后提到的是PMS |
| 102 | And I think that you're like indicating that women are more emotional than men on average. | 我认为你就像表示 女性的情感比男性平均。 |
| 103 | They are 100 percent. | 他们是100%。 |
| 104 | Then tell me why men commit 92 percent of violent crimes. | 那告诉我为什么男人犯下92%的暴力罪行 |
| 105 | Tell me why they're more likely to self suicide. | 告诉我为什么他们更可能自杀 |
| 106 | So you think that testosterone is what makes men more emotional? | 所以你认为睾丸酮 使男人更情绪化? |
| 107 | Absolutely. | 当然 |
| 108 | OK, well, then you just conceded the no, I didn't concede. | 好吧,好吧,那么你只是承认 不,我没有承认。 |
| 109 | You just said that absolutely men are more emotional than five seconds after saying that | 你刚才说,绝对男人的情感 超过5秒后,说 |
| 110 | women were more emotional than men. | 妇女比男子更情绪化。 |
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