纽约州州长辩论完整版：霍楚尔vs布莱克曼 | 2026.10
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:10 | Good evening. | 边 |
| 0:10 | Welcome to the first and only debate in the race for governor of New York. | 欢迎参加纽约州长竞选中 第一次也是唯一的辩论 |
| 0:15 | I'm Errol Lewis, Political Anchor at New York One, coming to you live from our studios here | 我是Errol Lewis 纽约一号的政务主管 从我们工作室来找你 |
| 0:20 | in Manhattan. | 在曼哈顿 |
| 0:21 | 我是Spectrum News 政治学者苏珊·阿尔贝特 | |
| 0:23 | Tonight's broadcast can be seen | 今晚的广播可以看见 |
| 0:25 | on all of our stations across New York, and we are also streaming live on the Spectrum | 纽约所有车站上,我们也在现场直播 |
| 0:29 | News app and on our YouTube channel. | 新闻应用和我们的YouTube频道. |
| 0:32 | Election day is three weeks from tonight, and early voting kicks off on Saturday, October | 选举日离今晚还有三周 提前投票在十月星期六开始 |
| 0:38 | 24th. | 24号 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Good evening. | 边 |
| 2 | Welcome to the first and only debate in the race for governor of New York. | 欢迎参加纽约州长竞选中 第一次也是唯一的辩论 |
| 3 | I'm Errol Lewis, Political Anchor at New York One, coming to you live from our studios here | 我是Errol Lewis 纽约一号的政务主管 从我们工作室来找你 |
| 4 | in Manhattan. | 在曼哈顿 |
| 5 | 我是Spectrum News 政治学者苏珊·阿尔贝特 | |
| 6 | Tonight's broadcast can be seen | 今晚的广播可以看见 |
| 7 | on all of our stations across New York, and we are also streaming live on the Spectrum | 纽约所有车站上,我们也在现场直播 |
| 8 | News app and on our YouTube channel. | 新闻应用和我们的YouTube频道. |
| 9 | Election day is three weeks from tonight, and early voting kicks off on Saturday, October | 选举日离今晚还有三周 提前投票在十月星期六开始 |
| 10 | 24th. | 24号 |
| 11 | New Yorkers will be casting their ballots in key congressional, legislative, and statewide | 纽约人将在国会、议会和全州投票 |
| 12 | races, including the one that we're focused on tonight, governor of New York. | 包括今晚我们关注的比赛 纽约州长 |
| 13 | So tonight's debate is hosted under the auspices of New York State's Public Campaign Finance | 所以今晚的辩论 由纽约州公共运动金融公司主持 |
| 14 | Board. | 董事会。 |
| 15 | 也由我们的同事在Spectrum Noticias用西班牙语播出. | |
| 16 | Over the course of the next hour, you'll hear from both candidates. | 在接下来的一小时里,你会听到两位候选人的呼声. |
| 17 | Kathy Hochul is | 凯西·霍胡尔 |
| 18 | the incumbent, a Democrat who has held the job since 2021. | 从2021年起一直任职的民主党人 |
| 19 | Her Republican challenger | 她的共和党挑战者 |
| 20 | is Bruce Blakeman, who has served as Nassau County executive since 2022. | 布鲁斯·布莱克曼,他从2022年起担任拿骚县行政. |
| 21 | The rules you see on your screen have been agreed to by both candidates. | 你屏幕上看到的规则 已经得到了两位候选人的同意 |
| 22 | They will each | 他们各会 |
| 23 | have 60 seconds for an opening statement. | 开场白有60秒 |
| 24 | Answers to our questions will generally be | 对我们问题的答复一般是: |
| 25 | limited to 60 seconds with 30 seconds to answer rebuttals or follow ups at our discretion. | 仅限60秒30秒 以回答反驳或后续 由我们斟酌决定 |
| 26 | And there will be both a cross examination round where the candidates get to ask one | 将会有两轮交叉考试 考生可以问一个 |
| 27 | question to their opponent and a lightning round where their answers should be yes or | 向对手提问 和闪电回合 他们的答案应该是是或 |
| 28 | no or very short. | 没有或非常短。 |
| 29 | We begin now with one minute opening statements. | 我们现在首先作一分钟的开幕发言。 |
| 30 | The order was determined by a random drawing | 顺序由随机绘制决定 |
| 31 | earlier today on live television. | 今天早些时候的电视直播 |
| 32 | We'll start with you, Mr. Blakeman. | 我们从你开始 布莱克曼先生 |
| 33 | Good evening. | 边 |
| 34 | Good evening, Governor, and thank you to everybody out there that's watching this debate. | 晚上好,州长,谢谢大家观看这场辩论 |
| 35 | It gives me an opportunity to speak directly to you and your families about issues that are | 让我有机会直接与你们的家人 讨论这些问题 |
| 36 | important here in New York State that affect you each and every day. | 纽约州每天都影响你 |
| 37 | As I travel across the state, | 我穿越全州时 |
| 38 | and it's a beautiful state, everywhere I go, people are telling me how they're struggling, | 它是一个美丽的状态, 无论我走到哪里, 人们告诉我 他们是如何挣扎, |
| 39 | struggling to pay their bills, and they're worried about safety in their communities. | 他们很担心社区的安全。 |
| 40 | Under Governor Hokel, we are the highest tax state in America. | 在霍克尔总督统治下,我们是美国最高的税务州. |
| 41 | Our utility bills are 70% | 我们的水电费是七成 |
| 42 | higher than the national average, and because of policies like cashless bail, | 高于全国平均水平,并由于诸如无现金保释等政策, |
| 43 | people feel unsafe in their own communities. | 人们在自己的社区感到不安全。 |
| 44 | As governor, I will cut taxes, I will cut your | 作为州长,我会减税,我会减税 |
| 45 | utility bills in half, and I will create safer communities just like I did in my own county, | 一半的水电费 我会建立更安全的社区 就像我在自己的县一样 |
| 46 | Nassau County. | 拿骚县志. |
| 47 | And let me say this, Kathy Hokel has spent $8 billion of your money | 让我说 凯西·霍克尔花了80亿美元 |
| 48 | on illegal migrants for free food, free housing, free transportation, and a free cell phone. | 免费食品、免费住房、免费交通和免费手机。 |
| 49 | That's your money that she spent on people who aren't New Yorkers. | 那是你的钱 她花在那些不是纽约人的人身上 |
| 50 | I believe she's got her | 我相信她已经得到了她 |
| 51 | priorities upside down. | 将优先事项倒置。 |
| 52 | So I'm going to ask you to vote for change. | 故请选改. |
| 53 | What have you got to lose? | 你有什么损失? |
| 54 | And vote for a better New York, and vote for Blakeman for governor. | 投票给更好的纽约 投票给布莱克曼州长 |
| 55 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 56 | Next is Ms. Hokel. | 下一个是霍克尔女士。 |
| 57 | Good evening. | 边 |
| 58 | Thank you for hosting us this evening. | 谢谢你今晚接待我们 |
| 59 | And County Executive, good to see you this evening. | 和县行政,很高兴见到你今晚。 |
| 60 | My parents started married life in a trailer park near the Bethlehem Steel Plant. | 我父母开始在伯利恒钢铁厂附近的拖车公园结婚生活. |
| 61 | I used to work | 我以前工作过 |
| 62 | long hours after school every day to raise money for college at a pizzeria. | 每天放学后长小时,为披萨大学筹款。 |
| 63 | You know, | 你知道吗, |
| 64 | I never forgot where I came from and the struggles. | 我从来没有忘记我来自哪里 和挣扎。 |
| 65 | And that's why as governor, | 这就是为什么作为州长, |
| 66 | I have been laser focused on affordability and your family's safety. | 我被激光聚焦在负担能力和你家人的安全上 |
| 67 | And that's why we've | 这就是为什么我们 |
| 68 | delivered the largest middle-class rate cut in 70 years. | 70年来中产阶级削减率最大 |
| 69 | That's why we've delivered over $10 | 所以我们才送了十块钱 |
| 70 | billion in energy rebates and inflation rebates and rebates to help people pay their bills. | 10亿元能源回扣和通货膨胀回扣和回扣 帮助人们支付账单。 |
| 71 | Also this, New York State now has the lowest crime rates it's had in modern history. | 还有,纽约州现在的犯罪率是现代史上最低的。 |
| 72 | Now, | 现在, |
| 73 | we're not done yet. | 还没完呢 |
| 74 | And you're going to hear a lot of, well, a lot of different opinions here | 你会听到很多不同的意见 |
| 75 | this evening. | 今夜时. |
| 76 | And I want you to judge it this way. | 我要你这样判断 |
| 77 | My opponent has said this. | 我的对手已经说过了 |
| 78 | He says that he's | 他说他是 |
| 79 | going to bring Trump-style leadership to Albany. | 要把特朗普式的领导带到奥尔巴尼 |
| 80 | He says he's going to cut Medicaid in half. | 他说他要把医疗补助费减半 |
| 81 | You | 你们 |
| 82 | heard him say that. | 听到他说的 |
| 83 | And he's going to let ICE run rampant in our streets. | 他会让ICE在我们街上肆虐 |
| 84 | So this is your choice, | 所以这是你的选择 |
| 85 | New Yorkers. | 纽约人。 |
| 86 | I'm not letting this happen. | 我不会让这事发生的 |
| 87 | Working together with you, we will not, | 与你合作,我们不会, |
| 88 | because your family is my fight. | 因为你的家庭是我的战斗。 |
| 89 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 90 | Thank you, candidates. | 谢谢,候选人。 |
| 91 | We're going to begin tonight by | 我们今晚开始 |
| 92 | discussing an incident that is reigniting a national debate. | 讨论一个正在引发全国辩论的事件。 |
| 93 | An ICE agent last Thursday | 上周四有个ICE探员 |
| 94 | shot a Dominican immigrant in the upper Manhattan neighborhood of Marble Hill while his five-year-old | 在曼哈顿曼哈顿上游大理石山 枪杀了一位多米尼加移民 而他的五岁小孩 |
| 95 | son was in the backseat of the car. | 儿子在车后座上 |
| 96 | This took place on a busy street. | 这发生在一条繁忙的街道上。 |
| 97 | At a time, many New | 一次,许多新人 |
| 98 | Yorkers were making their way home from work or school. | 约克从工作或学校回家 |
| 99 | Federal government says the man drove | 联邦政府说那个人开车 |
| 100 | towards agents before they shot him. | 在他们射杀他之前 向特工们报告 |
| 101 | I'm going to start with you, Mr. Blakeman. | 我先从你开始,布莱克曼先生 |
| 102 | Multiple reports | 多份报告 |
| 103 | suggest that ICE has cut its training time, lowered its hiring standards, and deployed | 建议ICE缩短培训时间、降低雇用标准并部署 |
| 104 | masked agents in cities whose leaders don't want them there. | 城市里的蒙面特工 他们的领导人不希望他们在那里。 |
| 105 | In this case, with long guns in a | 在这种情况下,用长枪 |
| 106 | crowded urban environment. | 城市环境拥挤。 |
| 107 | And I guess the question is, are you comfortable with that? | 我想问题是,你觉得舒服吗? |
| 108 | Kathy Hochul appealed to ICE to let this criminal out. | 凯西·霍胡尔呼吁ICE释放这名罪犯. |
| 109 | The question that New Yorkers have to ask | 纽约人必须问的问题 |
| 110 | is what was this guy doing in New York in the first place? | 这家伙在纽约做什么? |
| 111 | It's because Kathy Hochul has made | 因为凯西·霍胡尔做了 |
| 112 | us a sanctuary state. | 我们是一个庇护国。 |
| 113 | Think about it. | 考虑一下 |
| 114 | This guy came into the country illegally. | 这个人非法入境 |
| 115 | He's been convicted | 他已经被定罪了 |
| 116 | of a crime. | 犯罪时 |
| 117 | He's got pending charges for dealing drugs, poison to our children, and he's a gang | 他涉嫌贩毒 毒害我们的孩子 他是一个帮派 |
| 118 | banger. | 鸡巴。 |
| 119 | This is who Kathy Hochul is defending. | 凯西·霍胡尔就是为他辩护 |
| 120 | I have a cooperative agreement with ICE until | 我和ICE有合作协议,直到 |
| 121 | Kathy Hochul said we could no longer cooperate with ICE. | 凯西·霍胡尔说我们不能再和ICE合作了 |
| 122 | We got over 2,000 illegal migrants | 我们有两千多名非法移民 |
| 123 | out of my county with criminal records ranging from rape, attempted murder, robbery, burglary, | 出我县的犯罪记录 包括强奸 谋杀未遂 抢劫 盗窃 |
| 124 | drug dealing, carjacking, gang activity. | 贩毒 劫车 帮派活动 |
| 125 | And that's because we cooperated with ICE and we | 那是因为我们和ICE合作 |
| 126 | didn't raid one school, one hospital, one daycare center, or one church. | 没有袭击一个学校,一个医院,一个日托中心,或者一个教堂。 |
| 127 | If you cooperate with | 如果你愿意合作的话 |
| 128 | law enforcement, it makes for a safer community. | 执法部门,它使社区更加安全。 |
| 129 | That's what I did. | 这就是我所做的。 |
| 130 | Kathy Hochul has taken that | 凯西·霍胡尔拿走了 |
| 131 | ability away from us. | 能力远离我们。 |
| 132 | That's why things like this happen. | 故此等诸事. |
| 133 | I had a question for you, Ms. Hochul, | 我有一个问题要问你 Hochul女士 |
| 134 | but I wanted to give you a chance to respond. | 但我想给你一个回应的机会 |
| 135 | No, thank you. | 不 谢谢 |
| 136 | I think in his non-answer, | 我认为在他的非回答中, |
| 137 | he refused to condemn what ICE did. | 他拒绝谴责ICE的所作所为. |
| 138 | So he basically says in the state of New York he'd be fine | 所以他基本上说,在纽约州 他会没事的 |
| 139 | if ICE agents shoot into cars, shoot guns into vehicles, not knowing who's inside, | 如果ICE特工向汽车开枪 向汽车开枪 也不知道里面是谁 |
| 140 | and could have killed a five-year-old child. | 可能杀了一个5岁的孩子 |
| 141 | If that doesn't shock the conscience of everybody, | 如果这不震撼每个人的良心, |
| 142 | and it should shock his conscience as well, then he says that's okay. | 这会震撼他的良心, 然后他说没关系。 |
| 143 | That's how ICE is supposed | 这就是ICE应该做的 |
| 144 | to do it. | 要做到这一点。 |
| 145 | I'll tell you what, I oversee over 500 policing agencies in the state of New York, | 我告诉你,我监管 纽约州500多个警察机构, |
| 146 | over half a million arrests every year. | 每年逮捕50多万人。 |
| 147 | That's not how you conduct yourself. | 这不是你的行为。 |
| 148 | ICE is out of control. | ICE已经失控了. |
| 149 | It's out of control in Nassau County. | 在拿骚县已经失控. |
| 150 | Kathy, it never would have happened, | 凯西,它永远不会发生, |
| 151 | but for your sanctuary policy, you have invited criminals to come into our state | 但是为了你的庇护政策 你邀请了罪犯来我们国家 |
| 152 | and prey on our communities, and now you won't let local law enforcement | 并掠夺我们的社区, 而现在你不会让 当地执法 |
| 153 | cooperate with ICE in an orderly way like we did in my county. | 就像我们在郡里一样 有序地与ICE合作 |
| 154 | We didn't have any incidents in my | 我们没有发生任何意外 |
| 155 | county because we were allowed to cooperate with local law enforcement, but you took that tool | 郡因为我们被允许 与当地的执法部门合作, 但你拿走了工具 |
| 156 | away. | 离开。 |
| 157 | The reason why that happened is because of you, Kathy Hochul, and your immigration policies, | 这是因为你 凯西·霍胡尔 以及你的移民政策 |
| 158 | where you actually invite people into our state, give them free everything, | 在那里你邀请人们进入我们的国家, 给他们免费的一切, |
| 159 | and you don't care whether they're criminals or not. | 你不在乎他们是不是罪犯 |
| 160 | That's a bad policy. | 这政策不好 |
| 161 | I have a right to answer this one, because this is so absurd. | 我有权回答这个,因为这太荒谬了。 |
| 162 | I have said from the president on | 总统说 |
| 163 | down, I said New York is not a sanctuary for criminals, not a sanctuary for criminals, | 下,我说纽约不是罪犯的避难所,也不是罪犯的避难所, |
| 164 | full stop. | 完全停下来。 |
| 165 | But to say nothing happened in Nassau County, tell that to the man who on camera | 但是说拿骚郡什么都没有发生 告诉摄影机上的人 |
| 166 | had his head rammed into a brick wall by ICE agents who was knocked unconscious. | 他的头撞进砖墙 被ICE特工打晕 |
| 167 | Say that to the family of the man who died in your custody when he was in one of the Nassau | 对在拿骚监狱里死去的人的家人说 |
| 168 | County's jail, and nothing bad happens. | 郡狱,无恶事. |
| 169 | Well, tell that to 11-year-old Norman, who sobbed in my arms | 好吧,告诉11岁的诺曼, 他泣在我的怀里 |
| 170 | when local police, Nassau police, took his father when he was just going to a home depot, | 当当地警察拿骚警察 带着他父亲去一个仓库时 |
| 171 | for God's sakes, and his father was sitting for months and months in a detention center. | 看在上帝的份上 他父亲在拘留中心坐了好几个月 |
| 172 | Norman was devastated. | 诺曼受到重创. |
| 173 | How about the two 30-year-old women who were murdered by an illegal migrant in my county? | 我县被非法移民杀害的两名30岁女子如何?. |
| 174 | What do you say to their families? | 你对他们的家人怎么说? |
| 175 | What do you say to all those people | 你怎么对这些人说? |
| 176 | who have had their children hooked on drugs by illegal migrants bringing fentanyl, cocaine, | 他们让孩子迷上毒品 非法移民带来了芬太尼 可卡因 |
| 177 | and heroin into our communities? | 和海洛因进入我们的社区? |
| 178 | We have an epidemic of crime from these illegal migrants. | 我们从这些非法移民那里得到犯罪。 |
| 179 | 16,000 detainers are out there for people who committed 52,000 crimes in our state, | 16000名拘留犯 在那里的人 谁犯下了52,000罪行 在我们的国家, |
| 180 | and you won't let local law enforcement cooperate with ICE to pick them up and get out of this state. | 并且你不会让当地执法部门 与ICE合作接他们离开这个州 |
| 181 | This never would have happened, Kathy, if it wasn't for your policies. | 凯西 如果不是因为你的政策 这事就不会发生 |
| 182 | You know his idea of law enforcement, because I have worked hard to drive down crime, | 你知道他关于执法的主意 因为我努力打击犯罪 |
| 183 | I spent $4 billion of money to support our men and women in blue. | 我花了40亿美元 支持我们的男女蓝衣。 |
| 184 | They know I have their backs, | 他们知道我有他们的背部, |
| 185 | and I want to make sure that they're keeping our communities safe, not being deputized as ICE | 我想确保他们能保护我们社区的安全 而不是作为ICE的代理 |
| 186 | agents, which is what he did. | 探员,他就是这么做的 |
| 187 | And maybe that's why, maybe that's why Nassau County had a 10-year | 也许这就是拿骚郡十年的原因 |
| 188 | high in violent crimes under your watch. | 在你的监视下犯罪率很高 |
| 189 | Maybe because they're too distracted trying to be ICE | 也许因为他们太分心了 想成为ICE |
| 190 | agents. | 探员 |
| 191 | Well, I've talked to members of their police department. | 我和他们警局的人谈过了 |
| 192 | They just want to do their jobs, | 他们只是想做他们的工作, |
| 193 | and when I changed the law, I got them back to local policing so they can stop crimes and they | 当我改变法律时,我把他们带回当地治安部门 让他们停止犯罪,他们 |
| 194 | heard. | 听见了 |
| 195 | U.S. News and World Report says I have the safest county in America. | 美国新闻与世界报道说,我有美国最安全的县. |
| 196 | So I back law enforcement, and I back the laws of both our federal government and our state | 所以我支持执法,我支持 我们联邦政府和州的法律 |
| 197 | government. | 政府。 |
| 198 | And I give our law enforcement professionals the tools they need to keep us | 我给了我们执法的专业人士 维持我们的工具 |
| 199 | safe. | 平安无事. |
| 200 | But you say you spent $4 billion on law enforcement. | 但你说你在执法方面花了40亿美元 |
| 201 | Well, you spent $8 billion on illegal | 你花了80亿去非法交易 |
| 202 | migrants and gave them more benefits than New Yorkers get. | 并给了他们比纽约人更多的好处。 |
| 203 | How does that make any sense? | 这有什么意义? |
| 204 | I can't believe you just took credit for what the Democratic predecessor in your county did. | 我不敢相信你居然把 民主党的前身的功劳当回事 |
| 205 | Oh, she was the county executive in 2024? | 哦,她是2024年的县行政官? |
| 206 | 是Laura Curran的手下开始犯罪 | |
| 207 | down. | 下来 |
| 208 | They called Nassau. | 他们叫拿骚。 |
| 209 | Wasn't that during COVID? | 那不是在COVID期间吗? |
| 210 | They called Nassau one of the safest | 他们称拿骚是最安全的 |
| 211 | places in America before you became county executive. | 在你成为郡行政官之前 在美国的地方 |
| 212 | Ms. Hockel, let me- | 霍克尔女士 让我... |
| 213 | You take credit for the sun rising in the morning and setting at night. | 你为太阳在早晨升起,在夜间落下而取名. |
| 214 | We're gonna move on, but before we do, I wanted to ask you this, Ms. Hockel. | 我们要继续前进 但在此之前 我想问你这个 霍克尔女士 |
| 215 | Does New York's | 纽约的 |
| 216 | policy amount to a cancellation at times of valid deportation orders, provided an immigrant lays | 政策相当于在有效的驱逐令期间予以取消,只要移民从事 |
| 217 | low and doesn't commit a violent crime? | 低调又不犯暴力罪? |
| 218 | And are you comfortable with that reality? | 你接受现实吗? |
| 219 | Even New York City has 170 crimes, serious crimes, where they will work with ICE agents | 连纽约市也有170起重罪 他们将在那里与ICE特工合作 |
| 220 | to remove people. | 以除众生. |
| 221 | That is a fact all across the state of New York. | 这是整个纽约州的事实。 |
| 222 | We always work with | 我们总是合作 |
| 223 | law enforcement to remove people who are committing crimes. | 执法部门将犯罪人员驱逐出境。 |
| 224 | And the other thing is, | 还有一件事 |
| 225 | when people commit a crime, I want them to go through our court system. | 当人们犯罪时 我要他们通过我们的法庭系统 |
| 226 | I want victims to | 我想让受害者 |
| 227 | have their day in court. | 让他们的一天在法庭上。 |
| 228 | Then we kick them out of the country at the end of their prison term. | 然后在他们服刑期满时将他们驱逐出境. |
| 229 | That's how it's always operated. | 总是如此操作. |
| 230 | Always work successfully until you have rogue agents | 总是成功工作,直到有流氓特工 |
| 231 | roaming the streets and county executives like him supporting them. | 像他那样在街上和郡里的人支持他们 |
| 232 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 233 | Thank you, candidates. | 谢谢,候选人。 |
| 234 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 235 | We're gonna move on now to voters' pocketbooks. | 我们现在要转到选民口袋里去 |
| 236 | And we're gonna start with Kathy | 我们从凯西开始 |
| 237 | Hockel. | 霍克尔 |
| 238 | Ms. Hockel, New Yorkers pay among the highest energy costs in the nation, | 霍克尔女士,纽约人 支付全国最高的能源成本, |
| 239 | with experts saying that older plants are being shut down at a faster pace than the state can | 专家说老工厂被关闭的速度比国家快 |
| 240 | build new generation. | 建设新一代. |
| 241 | And you've acknowledged that problem by sending out energy rebate checks to | 你承认了这个问题 通过发送能量回扣检查 |
| 242 | many New Yorkers. | 许多纽约人。 |
| 243 | But the demand for energy continues and those prices continue to soar. | 但能源需求仍在继续,这些价格继续飙升。 |
| 244 | Will these checks be going out annually? | 这些支票会每年发行吗? |
| 245 | And beyond that, what are you doing in the short term | 除此之外,你在做什么 在短期 |
| 246 | to lower utility costs? | 降低水电费? |
| 247 | You know, Susan, great question. | 你知道,苏珊,伟大的问题。 |
| 248 | I understand the pain that so many | 我理解这么多人的痛苦 |
| 249 | people are going through. | 人们正在经历。 |
| 250 | Energy prices are high all over America. | 美国各地的能源价格都很高. |
| 251 | And the issue is, as you've put | 问题是,正如你所说 |
| 252 | out so perfectly, is that we don't have enough supply to meet the demand. | 如此完美,就是我们没有足够的供给来满足需求。 |
| 253 | So I have an all-the-above | 所以,我有一个全 -以上 |
| 254 | approach. | 办法。 |
| 255 | I did do energy rebates just as a short-term solution. | 我做了能量回扣 只是一个短期的解决方案。 |
| 256 | But I'm trying to build | 但我在努力建设 |
| 257 | more. | 再来 |
| 258 | But you know what the real problem is? | 你知道真正的问题是什么吗? |
| 259 | I've got Donald Trump standing in the way of my energy | 我让唐纳德·特朗普挡住了我的能量 |
| 260 | projects, literally shut down a project, kicking 1,300 people off their jobs that would have powered | 将1300人踢出本可以提供电力的工作 |
| 261 | half a million homes in Brooklyn. | 布鲁克林有50万户人家 |
| 262 | I also want to do, pardon my all-the-above, I'm trying to do | 我也很想做,原谅我的 全部以上,我想做 |
| 263 | nuclear. | 核能 |
| 264 | But the White House, playing politics, won't sign off on it. | 但是,白宫,玩政治,不会签下它。 |
| 265 | So we're doing the best we | 所以我们做的最好 |
| 266 | can, but don't overlook the fact that it's the war with Iran that is driving up gasoline costs | 但不要忽视的是 与伊朗的战争导致汽油成本上升 |
| 267 | and energy costs almost double of what they were in the past. | 能源几乎是过去两倍 |
| 268 | Diesel is now double what it was. | 柴油是现在的两倍。 |
| 269 | That is a real cost of energy that people are dealing with, and it was so unnecessary. | 这是一个真正的能源成本 人们正在处理, 它是如此不必要的。 |
| 270 | And my | 还有我的 |
| 271 | opponent supports exactly what Donald Trump did with that war. | 对手完全支持唐纳德·特朗普在这场战争中的所作所为. |
| 272 | Will you raise income taxes? | 你会提高所得税吗? |
| 273 | Many | 许多 |
| 274 | of your progressive allies are saying- Can I respond to that first? | 你的进步盟友说... 我能先回答吗? |
| 275 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 276 | I'd like to respond to the utility bill issue because that's probably one of the most prevalent | 我想回答公用事业费的问题 因为这可能是最流行的 |
| 277 | issues that we have here in New York. | 我们在纽约这里遇到的问题。 |
| 278 | Cathy, Donald Trump didn't raise utility rates 48 times. | 凯茜,唐纳德·特朗普没有提高公用事业费率48倍. |
| 279 | You did. | 没错 |
| 280 | Donald Trump didn't increase our utility bills by 50% since you become governor. | 唐纳德·特朗普自从你成为州长后 我们的水电费没有增加50% |
| 281 | You gave $150 back to people in a rebate in an election year, right before the election, | 你给150美元 在选举年的回扣, 就在选举前, |
| 282 | when you've raised the average bill $4,000 a year, and your own energy research department says | 当你每年平均提高4000美元时 你自己的能源研究部门说 |
| 283 | your policies will raise it another $4,000 in the next five years. | 您的政策将在未来五年内再筹集4000美元。 |
| 284 | It's out of control, and it's because of you, Cathy. | 这已经失控了,这是因为你,凯茜。 |
| 285 | You know what drives up energy prices in addition to Donald Trump's war that you support? | 你知道除了你支持的唐纳德·特朗普的战争之外 还有什么能推动能源价格上涨的吗? |
| 286 | His vision for energy across the state of New York. | 他在纽约州对能量的展望 |
| 287 | Now, get this. | 现在,得到这个。 |
| 288 | He supports the hyperscale | 他支持超标 |
| 289 | data centers that consume enormous amounts of energy. | 数据中心消耗了大量能量 |
| 290 | Picture what he wants to see upstate. | 想象一下他想在州外看到什么 |
| 291 | He wants oil and gas rigs everywhere. | 到处都是油气钻机 |
| 292 | He wants fossil fuel generating factories spewing smoke | 他想制造化石燃料的工厂喷烟 |
| 293 | everywhere. | 到处都是 |
| 294 | And he wants data centers using our rare farmland. | 他想利用我们稀有的农田 建立数据中心 |
| 295 | That's his vision for how to create | 这就是他如何创造的愿景 |
| 296 | more energy. | 更多的能量。 更多的能量。 |
| 297 | New Yorkers ought to hear that and run for the hills. | 纽约人应该听到这些 跑到山上去 |
| 298 | Cathy, you know that's a fiction. | 凯茜,你知道那是个虚构的 |
| 299 | That's not my policies. | 这不是我的政策 |
| 300 | But we are sitting on one of the | 但我们坐在一个 |
| 301 | largest natural gas reserves in the world, and you won't let us extract that natural gas. | 世界上最大的天然气储量, 而你不会让我们提取天然气。 |
| 302 | In Pennsylvania, a Democrat governor, Josh Shapiro, allows it, and that's why their energy costs | 在宾夕法尼亚州,民主党州长乔什·沙皮罗允许这样做, 这就是为什么他们的能源成本 |
| 303 | are more than half of what ours are. | 超过我们的一半。 |
| 304 | They have prosperity. | 他们有繁荣。 |
| 305 | On the Pennsylvania side of the | 在宾夕法尼亚州一侧 |
| 306 | border, people are driving around in brand new Cadillac Escalades. | 边境,人们开着全新的凯迪拉克车 |
| 307 | And on the New York | 在纽约 |
| 308 | side of the border, they're driving around in 25-year-old rusted out pickup trucks because of | 他们开着25年的皮卡车 |
| 309 | your policies. | 你的政策。 |
| 310 | And I'll talk about data centers later if you'd like. | 如果你愿意,我晚点再谈数据中心 |
| 311 | No, let's talk about it now, because you called my moratorium crazy. | 不,我们现在谈谈, 因为你说我的暂停期疯了。 |
| 312 | It was. | 没错 |
| 313 | Donald Trump says it's only for dumb, poor people who support that. | 唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)说,这只针对那些支持这个的蠢货,穷人. |
| 314 | You support what Donald Trump said there as well? | 你也支持唐纳德·特朗普说的吗? |
| 315 | Dumb, poor people? | 傻瓜,穷人? |
| 316 | You said that all the staters weren't sophisticated enough to make important decisions. | 你说所有的州人都不够精密 无法做出重要决定 |
| 317 | They are, but they need to have some force negotiating. | 是的,但他们需要一些力量谈判。 |
| 318 | We are going to be getting to data centers. | 我们将进入数据中心。 |
| 319 | I need to ask you, Mr. Blakeman, you've attacked the governor over energy policy, | 我要问你,布莱克曼先生 你因为能源政策袭击了州长 |
| 320 | but you haven't provided any details of how you intend to cut utility bills in half. | 但你没有提供任何细节 说明你打算如何把水电费减半 |
| 321 | How | 怎么样 |
| 322 | can that be achieved without hurting reliability or blowing a hole in local government budgets | 可在不损害可靠性或不给地方政府预算造成漏洞的情况下实现 |
| 323 | that tax utility investments? | 税费投资? |
| 324 | I've said it many times, so I'll repeat it. | 吾屡言之,故复言之. |
| 325 | When you look at your energy bill, | 当你看你的能源账单, |
| 326 | get your energy bill out tonight. | 今晚拿出你的能源账单 |
| 327 | Only about 30% of your payment actually goes for energy. | 你只有30%的薪水 用于能源。 |
| 328 | The rest goes for taxes. | 余者为税. |
| 329 | Yes, Kathy Hochul taxes your energy bill as well. | 是的,凯西・霍胡尔也税 你的能源账单。 |
| 330 | And excessive delivery costs that are merely trying to masquerade rate hikes. | 和过高的分娩成本 仅仅试图伪装 高涨率。 |
| 331 | And her slush | 她的浆水 |
| 332 | fund, where she collects money every month from you, billions of dollars, and invests | 她每月从你那里收钱 数十亿美元 投资 |
| 333 | in science projects like wind turbines in the middle of the ocean or solar farms in | 在海洋中部的风力涡轮机或太阳能发电场等科学项目中 |
| 334 | upstate New York that are taking away our rich farmland, which by the way are covered | 上态New 约克正在夺走我们富饶的农田 顺便说一句,这些农田被覆盖了 |
| 335 | under snow three months out of the year. | 3个月后下雪 |
| 336 | It's very expensive. | 甚贵. |
| 337 | She's paying billions | 她付了几十亿 |
| 338 | of dollars to foreign corporations for these. | 给外国公司的钱 |
| 339 | And guess what? | 你猜怎么着? |
| 340 | That's why we're in an energy | 所以我们才有活力 |
| 341 | crisis. | 危机。 |
| 342 | I would extract the natural gas from the Marcellus Shale. | 我会从马塞卢斯页岩上提取天然气 |
| 343 | We'll get rid of that | 我们会摆脱的 |
| 344 | green energy scam of Kathy Hochul. | 凯西·霍胡尔的绿色能源骗局 |
| 345 | And I will cut your utility bills in half just like they | 我会像他们一样把你的水电费减半 |
| 346 | did in Pennsylvania. | 在宾夕法尼亚州 |
| 347 | No, actually just like Donald Trump said he would do on day one. | 不,其实就像唐纳德·特朗普说的那样 他将在第一天做。 |
| 348 | So Donald Trump promises he promised to cut energy costs. | 于是唐纳德·特朗普承诺将削减能源成本. |
| 349 | He promised to cut down grocery | 他答应要砍掉杂货店 |
| 350 | costs. | 费用。 |
| 351 | And you know what? | 你知道吗? |
| 352 | Everything has happened under your friend, Donald Trump, | 在你朋友唐纳德·特朗普的手下发生了一切 |
| 353 | who you are the president of the fan club for Donald Trump. | 你是唐纳德·特朗普的粉丝俱乐部主席 |
| 354 | It's absurd how adoring you are | 这太荒谬了,你是多么的崇拜 |
| 355 | him. | 他,他是谁? |
| 356 | My gosh. | 天呐 |
| 357 | Well, what he has done is raise gasoline prices and energy prices and and the | 嗯,他所做的是提高汽油价格和能源价格 |
| 358 | cost of tariffs have driven up everything in the state. | 关税成本 驱动了州内的一切。 |
| 359 | Have you bought groceries lately? | 你最近买杂货了吗? |
| 360 | My God, the people are suffering. | 天啊,人民在受苦受难 |
| 361 | And that didn't have to be the case. | 而不必如此. |
| 362 | Why are we at war | 我们为什么要打仗? |
| 363 | with the rest of the world? | 和世界其他人一起吗? |
| 364 | So you like to talk about Donald Trump all the time because you don't | 所以你喜欢谈论唐纳德·特朗普 因为你不 |
| 365 | want to talk about your record. | 想谈谈你的记录 |
| 366 | I'm talking about my record right now. | 我现在说的是我的唱片 |
| 367 | It's a record of misery and | 这是一段痛苦和 |
| 368 | failure. | 失败。 |
| 369 | Candidates, the highest taxes, utility rates, they're 70% higher than the national | 候选人,最高的税,水电费,比全国高70% |
| 370 | average. | 平均数。 |
| 371 | But let me say something about Donald Trump. | 让我谈谈唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 372 | Donald Trump's my friend. | 唐纳德·特朗普是我的朋友. |
| 373 | He's endorsed | 他被认可了 |
| 374 | me. | 来啊 |
| 375 | 但Bonnie Lautenberg也是 自由民主党人 他的丈夫Frank在 | |
| 376 | United States Senate and was a pillar of the Democratic Party. | 美国参议院,曾是民主党的支柱. |
| 377 | Actor Deborah Messing, | 演员黛博拉梅辛, |
| 378 | who's a liberal Democrat who supports me because she trusts me to make safer communities | 他是一个自由民主党人 她支持我 因为她信任我 让社区更安全 |
| 379 | and improve the quality of life here in New York. | 提高纽约的生活质量 |
| 380 | You got two votes. | 你有两票 |
| 381 | Good for you. | 对你有好处 |
| 382 | Okay, let's move on candidates. | 好吧,我们开始处理候选人 |
| 383 | I want to talk about another kind of tax, which is tariffs. | 我想谈谈另一种税,即关税。 |
| 384 | And I'll start with you, Mr. Blakeman. | 从你开始,布莱克曼先生 |
| 385 | The latest round of tariffs on Canada have increased costs | 最近一轮对加拿大的关税增加了成本 |
| 386 | for fertilizer, steel and lumber. | 肥料、钢材和木材 |
| 387 | The Trump administration points to a trade imbalance | 特朗普政府指出贸易不平衡 |
| 388 | with Canada. | 与加拿大。 |
| 389 | But what would you say if elected to upstate farmers who are having a tough time | 但是,如果你当选 上州农民 谁有一个艰难的时间 |
| 390 | making ends meet and to upstate tourist attractions that have seen a 21% drop in tourism from Canada? | 来自加拿大的旅游业下降了21%? |
| 391 | So what I would say to upstate farmers is the following. | 所以,我要对上州农民说的如下。 |
| 392 | Every time I go upstate and talk to farmers, all they complain about is Kathy Hochul's over | 每次我到州外跟农民谈话 他们抱怨的是凯西·霍胡尔已经结束了 |
| 393 | regulation, her rules, her silly rules that she has that doesn't apply to agriculture, | 条例,她的规则,她愚蠢的规则 她有不适用于农业, |
| 394 | to one of the biggest businesses that we have in New York state. | 纽约州最大的企业之一 |
| 395 | The fact of the matter is the | 事实是 |
| 396 | reason why we're failing in New York state is not because of Donald Trump and his tariffs. | 我们在纽约州失败的原因 不是因为唐纳德·特朗普和他的关税 |
| 397 | It's because of Governor Hochul. | 因总督霍丘. |
| 398 | Think about it. | 考虑一下 |
| 399 | We're number 50 out of 50 states in economic | 我们在经济领域50个州中排名第50 |
| 400 | outlook. | 展望。 |
| 401 | It doesn't get worse than that. | 亦无更坏. |
| 402 | There's only 50 states in the country. | 全国只有五十个州. |
| 403 | Donald Trump wasn't responsible for that. | 唐纳德·特朗普对此不负责任. |
| 404 | If that were the case, every state would be number 50. | 如果是这样,每个州都会是第50个. |
| 405 | But we're dead last because people aren't investing in New York because they don't have | 但我们最后死了 因为人们不投资纽约 因为他们没有 |
| 406 | confidence in the policies of Kathy Hochul. | 相信凯西·霍胡尔的政策 |
| 407 | We're overtaxed. | 我们税过重了 |
| 408 | Our utility bills are too high. | 我们的水电费太高了 |
| 409 | We're overregulated. | 我们管制过度了 |
| 410 | And she puts priorities on illegal migrants over the families here of New | 她把非法移民放在优先位置 比新家庭 |
| 411 | York state. | 约克州. |
| 412 | We have the fastest growing economy in the United States of America here in New York, | 纽约是美国经济增长最快的国家 |
| 413 | fastest growing economy. | 经济增长最快。 |
| 414 | We are exploding. | 我们正在爆炸。 |
| 415 | But you know, one area that is being hurt so hard, | 但是,你知道,一个地区 正在受到如此严重的伤害, |
| 416 | they're hardworking farmers. | 他们是勤劳的农民。 |
| 417 | They get up every single day, providing food security for all of | 他们每天起床,为所有人提供食物保障 |
| 418 | us. | 我们 |
| 419 | And you know what they're dealing with? | 你知道他们在对付什么吗? |
| 420 | I've done a lot of roundtables. | 我做了很多圆桌会议。 |
| 421 | They cannot believe | 他们不能相信 |
| 422 | their president, maybe they support him that one time and no longer because the costs of tariffs | 他们的总统,也许他们支持他一次 不再因为关税成本 |
| 423 | have made life so impossible that they're ready to close shop. | 让生活变得如此不可能 他们准备关门 |
| 424 | Five generations have survived. | 五代人幸存下来. |
| 425 | And under Donald Trump, with the tariffs, the cost of everything from fertilizers to, | 在唐纳德·特朗普的统治下 加上关税 从肥料到... |
| 426 | as you mentioned, aluminum, the wood shavings that go in the stalls for the animals. | 正如你提到的,铝, 木剃须 在摊位上为动物。 |
| 427 | Governor, before it didn't have to happen. | 州长,没有发生之前。 |
| 428 | Before President Trump even put the tariffs | 在特朗普总统把关税加起来之前 |
| 429 | in place. | 已经就位。 |
| 430 | Farmers have been complaining about your policies that make it harder | 农民一直抱怨你的政策 使它更加困难 |
| 431 | for agriculture in our state. | 我们州的农业。 |
| 432 | They're overregulated. | 他们管制过严 |
| 433 | And let me ask you a question | 让我问你一个问题 |
| 434 | then. | 那就这样吧 |
| 435 | How come they're complaining? | 为什么他们在抱怨? |
| 436 | Why is it that every place I go in upstate New York, | 为什么我到纽约州北部的每一个地方 |
| 437 | they're telling me that it's harder and harder to do business? | 他们告诉我做生意越来越难了? |
| 438 | Why are they putting solar farms | 他们为什么要放太阳能农场 |
| 439 | on their precious agricultural property, rich farmland, because they can't afford to do | 因为他们无力承担 |
| 440 | business in New York? | 纽约的生意? |
| 441 | They started doing that before President Trump became president. | 他们在特朗普总统就任总统前就开始这么做. |
| 442 | It's because of your policies that are ruining agriculture. | 是因为你们的政策破坏了农业。 |
| 443 | I brought the largest dairy processing facility in North America. | 我带来了北美最大的乳制品加工厂。 |
| 444 | The dairy farmers are thrilled. | 奶农们很兴奋 |
| 445 | Talk to a dairy farmer. | 跟一个奶农说话 |
| 446 | They were struggling so hard and I brought that. | 他们苦苦挣扎,我带来了。 |
| 447 | We've helped | 我们帮过忙 |
| 448 | Chobani expand. | 乔巴尼扩张. |
| 449 | We are using so much of one of our greatest commodities, milk, | 我们用了很多我们最伟大的商品之一 牛奶 |
| 450 | and I've made life easier for them because they know they now have an outlet for their products. | 我让他们的生活更加轻松 因为他们知道他们现在有产品出口 |
| 451 | But what has made life so hard is the fact that the raids on the farms taking away their workers. | 但让生活如此艰难的是,对农场的突袭夺走了他们的工人. |
| 452 | In fact, talk to Mr. Old McDonald's Farm, a big Republican in the North Country, | 事实上,跟北方的共和党人老麦当劳先生谈谈 |
| 453 | who called me looking for help when ICE raided the farm at 6 a.m. on a Saturday | 他打电话给我寻求帮助 当ICE在星期六早上6点突袭农场时 |
| 454 | and took a third grader and her mother and her son, took them away, threw them in detention. | 并带走了一名三年级学生和她的母亲和儿子,把他们带走,扔进拘留所。 |
| 455 | A third grader. | 三年级生 |
| 456 | You know where the father was? | 你知道父亲在哪里吗? |
| 457 | He was out milking cows because that's what you | 他出去挤奶是因为你 |
| 458 | do on a farm. | 做农场。 |
| 459 | People are struggling from the immigration policies. | 人们正在从移民政策中挣扎。 |
| 460 | If you're doing so well for the dairy farms, how come it's a dollar more for a gallon of milk in | 如果你对乳品养殖场这么好 为什么还要多一块钱 来一加仑牛奶 |
| 461 | New York City? | 纽约市? |
| 462 | Let me just ask one brief question for you, Ms. Hokel, and then we're going to move | 让我问你一个简单的问题 霍克尔女士 然后我们开始行动 |
| 463 | on. | 继续 |
| 464 | Canadian provinces have been aggressively limiting U.S. dairy imports, including dairy | 加拿大各省一直严格限制美国乳制品进口,包括乳制品 |
| 465 | from New York farmers. | 来自纽约的农民。 |
| 466 | If tariffs aren't the answer, what would be? | 如果关税不是答案,那会是什么? |
| 467 | They're at war with us right now. | 他们正在和我们交战 |
| 468 | They cannot believe that their best friend, | 他们不能相信 他们最好的朋友, |
| 469 | they cannot believe the best friend they've ever had, the United States of America that | 他们无法相信他们最好的朋友 美国 |
| 470 | always had their back, has now said they want to make them the 51st state. | 他们一直支持他们 现在说他们想让他们成为第51个州 |
| 471 | The Canadians are so insulted that they're not buying our products. | 加拿大人太受侮辱了 他们不会买我们的产品 |
| 472 | They won't buy anything. | 他们不会买任何东西。 |
| 473 | They're not buying the wine from our wineries. | 他们不会从我们的酒厂买酒 |
| 474 | We've been up to an upstate winery lately. | 我们最近去过一个高州酒厂 |
| 475 | Talk to a farmer there. | 和那边的农民谈谈 |
| 476 | Talk to a grower. | 与种者说话. |
| 477 | They've lost their marketplace, and it's all because of | 他们失去了他们的市场, 这一切是因为 |
| 478 | Donald Trump declaring war on one of our most loyal allies. | 唐纳德·特朗普向我们最忠诚的盟友之一宣战. |
| 479 | Who does that? | 谁干的? |
| 480 | We're all suffering | 我们都在受苦 |
| 481 | because of that. | 因为那样 |
| 482 | That's exactly what's going on. | 即是正见. |
| 483 | The tariffs, if he would only end these tariffs | 关税,如果他只会结束这些关税 |
| 484 | tomorrow, we could start seeing grocery prices start going. | 明天,我们可以看到杂货价格开始上涨。 |
| 485 | End the war with Iran. | 结束与伊朗的战争. |
| 486 | Gas prices | 天然气价格 |
| 487 | start coming down. | 开始下来。 |
| 488 | None of this has to be the way, and you support every single thing that | 这一切都不必是这样 你支持一切 |
| 489 | Donald Trump does. | 唐纳德·特朗普有 |
| 490 | People should know that when they go in to vote on November 3rd. | 人们应该知道 当他们去投票 在11月3日。 |
| 491 | Okay, we're going to move on. | 好吧,我们要继续前进。 |
| 492 | I have very significant policy differences with President Trump. | 我与特朗普总统在政策上有很大的分歧. |
| 493 | He's pro-life, I'm pro-choice. | 他的亲生,我亲选。 |
| 494 | We have to move on. | 我们必须继续前进。 |
| 495 | I believe in a guest worker program for immigrants. | 我相信移民的客工计划 |
| 496 | We have so many questions. | 我们有这么多的问题。 |
| 497 | He isn't there yet. | 他还没到 |
| 498 | Donald Trump killed the bill that would have | 唐纳德·特朗普杀了那本可以 |
| 499 | provided that. | 但必须如此。 |
| 500 | I want to go to a story that's been getting national news, and we're going to | 我想去一个故事 已经得到了全国新闻, 我们要 |
| 501 | start with Ms. Hokel, the alleged gang rape of a student at Cornell University. | 从霍克尔女士开始 康奈尔大学一名学生遭轮奸 |
| 502 | State Attorney | 国家检察官 |
| 503 | General Letitia James is being criticized for having made statements that suggest she's already | 莱蒂蒂亚·詹姆斯将军因为发表言论 暗示她已经 |
| 504 | prejudged the case. | 预先判断了案件。 |
| 505 | You have also made statements that sound like you have prejudged the case, | 也曾发表过类似你预断案件的说法 |
| 506 | including saying, quote, this woman, this young woman, had already endured something that is | 包括说,引用,这个女人,这个年轻女人, 已经忍受了一些事情, |
| 507 | utterly unspeakable. | 完全无法形容 |
| 508 | What do you say to legal experts who say James' statements could jeopardize | 你对那些说詹姆斯的言论会危及 |
| 509 | the investigation as appearing impartial? | 调查是否公正? |
| 510 | Is that for me? | 那是给我的吗? |
| 511 | Yes. | 对 |
| 512 | Listen, I'm a mom. | 听着,我是一个母亲。 |
| 513 | I've | 我见过 |
| 514 | dropped a daughter off at a college campus. | 在大学校园里送了一个女儿 |
| 515 | There should not be a culture that allows | 不应该有一种允许 |
| 516 | for a young woman to be so brutally attacked on a fraternity and then literally have the courage | 一个年轻女人在兄弟会中遭到如此残酷的攻击 然后有勇气 |
| 517 | to go ask for help from law enforcement. | 去向执法部门求助 |
| 518 | You know how difficult it is for a victim to have to tell | 你知道受害者很难说 |
| 519 | her story to strangers? | 她对陌生人的故事? |
| 520 | But she did it, and also the evidence seemed very clear. | 但是她做到了 证据也很明显 |
| 521 | And I'm not, | 我没有, |
| 522 | prosecuting this case. | 起诉此案。 |
| 523 | It seemed very clear that the boys in the fraternity were trying to cover | 看来兄弟会的男孩们想掩盖 |
| 524 | up what they had done. | 他们已经做了。 |
| 525 | There were a lot of acknowledgments, a lot of texts that were coming | 有很多的承认, 很多文本即将到来 |
| 526 | up. | 起来 |
| 527 | So I said this. | 所以我说了这个 |
| 528 | I want there to be an independent investigation. | 我希望有一个独立的调查。 |
| 529 | That's underway. | 已经开始了 |
| 530 | But also it became clear to me that the district attorney had already denied the opportunity to | 但我也很清楚 地方检察官已经否认了 |
| 531 | interview this young woman. | 采访这个年轻女人。 |
| 532 | I come from a family of prosecutors. | 我来自一个检察官家庭 |
| 533 | You should know enough to interview | 你应该知道足够的采访 |
| 534 | a victim of a crime and not just dismiss it. | 一个犯罪的受害者, 而不是仅仅放弃它。 |
| 535 | That's why the law says the governor shall appoint | 所以法律上规定由州长任命 |
| 536 | the governor shall appoint the attorney general in cases of special prosecutions. | 在特别起诉案件中,总督应任命总检察长。 |
| 537 | The attorney general can speak for herself on her tweet. | 总检察长可以在她的微博上为自己说话. |
| 538 | Time. | 时间 |
| 539 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 540 | So Mr. Blakeman, | 所以布莱克曼先生 |
| 541 | I want to just respond to that for a moment. | 我想对此稍作回应。 |
| 542 | My question is basically letting you follow up. | 我的问题基本上是让你跟进 |
| 543 | And | 还有 |
| 544 | that is there is a push to expand the voluntary intoxication standard in the law. | 这也是在扩大法律中的自愿中毒标准。 |
| 545 | Do you support | 您是否支持 |
| 546 | closing that law? | 关闭法律? |
| 547 | And how would you have approached this case if you were governor? | 如果你是州长 你会怎么处理这个案子? |
| 548 | So first of all, I absolutely do support that as a father, as a grandfather. | 所以,首先,我绝对支持 作为一个父亲,作为一个祖父。 |
| 549 | First of all, | 首先,我们... |
| 550 | if someone is intoxicated, maybe they're not unconscious, but if they're slurring their | 如果有人醉了 也许他们没有失去知觉 但是如果他们在吸 |
| 551 | words and they're stumbling, you shouldn't engage in relations because I'm not sure that person has | 你不应该谈恋爱 因为我不确定那个人有没有 |
| 552 | the capacity to consent. | 表示同意的能力。 |
| 553 | So I am for closing that loophole. | 所以我是关闭这个漏洞。 |
| 554 | I want to make it harder | 我想让它更难 |
| 555 | and more stringent our laws about guys who would date rape women by giving them roofies and bars. | 更严格的法律 男人谁会约会强奸妇女 通过给她们迷幻药和酒吧。 |
| 556 | I think we need to strengthen those laws. | 我认为我们需要加强这些法律。 |
| 557 | Kathy Hochul已经预先判断了这个案子 | |
| 558 | But what I have to say to you, Kathy, is as follows. | 但我要告诉你的是,凯西。 |
| 559 | Where were you? | 你刚才去哪了? |
| 560 | What did you do? | 你做了什麽? |
| 561 | You were the trustee of Cornell University. | 你是康奈尔大学的董事 |
| 562 | You were the governor of the state. | 你曾经是州长 |
| 563 | You fund Cornell | 你资助康奈尔 |
| 564 | University to the tune of $150 million a year. | 大学每年一亿五千万元 |
| 565 | They're a partner of the state of New York | 他们是纽约州的合伙人 |
| 566 | and as a trustee and as governor, you didn't call for an independent investigation | 作为受托人和州长 你没有要求独立调查 |
| 567 | when you found out that the district attorney was dropping the case. | 当你发现地方检察官在撤销此案时 |
| 568 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 569 | Shame on you. | 耻曰. |
| 570 | I did. | 没错 |
| 571 | You know, that's pretty pathetic to blame me for what happened in a fraternity. | 你知道,这是相当可悲的 怪我发生了什么 在兄弟会。 |
| 572 | My gosh. | 天呐 |
| 573 | No, I'm blaming you for the investigation afterwards. | 不,我怪你 调查之后。 |
| 574 | You deny that? | 你否认吗? |
| 575 | You were a trustee | 你是受托人 |
| 576 | there. | 这里 |
| 577 | The university failed that young woman. | 大学辜负了那个年轻女人 |
| 578 | Are you a member of the board? | 你是董事会成员吗? |
| 579 | We're going to | 我们要去 |
| 580 | move on to our cross-examination. | 继续我们的诘问 |
| 581 | It is time for the cross-examination. | 现在是诘问的时候了。 |
| 582 | That's when each of you | 那时你们每个人 |
| 583 | gets to ask your adversary one question and then listen to the answer. | 问你的对手一个问题 然后听答案 |
| 584 | We'll let you go first, | 我们先让你走 |
| 585 | Mr. Blakeman. | 布莱克曼先生 |
| 586 | So, Governor Hochul, under your sanctuary policies, a 14-year-old girl was raped | 霍胡尔州长 根据你的庇护政策 一个14岁的女孩被强奸了 |
| 587 | recently here in New York State by an illegal migrant. | 最近在纽约州被一个非法移民绑架 |
| 588 | Four Arundelquart residents were killed | 4名阿伦德尔夸特居民被杀 |
| 589 | recently by an illegal migrant. | 最近被一个非法移民 |
| 590 | Two of those victims were children under the age of five. | 其中两名受害者是五岁以下儿童。 |
| 591 | Two Nassau County women in their 30s were killed by an illegal migrant because of your sanctuary | 30多岁的两个拿骚县妇女 被一个非法移民杀了 因为你的庇护 |
| 592 | policies. | 政策。 |
| 593 | Will you apologize to that 14-year-old girl whose life has forever changed and her family | 你会向那个14岁的女孩道歉吗? 她的生活永远改变了 她的家人 |
| 594 | and the families of those who were killed, the ones that will never get to sit at another | 和被害者的家属, |
| 595 | Thanksgiving dinner, never be able to open their presents on the Christmas tree? | 感恩节晚餐,永远无法打开 他们的礼物在圣诞树? |
| 596 | Will you apologize | 你会道歉吗? |
| 597 | to them and will you please return Sheridan Gorman's parents' calls to talk to you about | 请回谢里丹・戈尔曼父母的电话 跟你谈谈 |
| 598 | your sanctuary policy? | 你的庇护政策? |
| 599 | You know, any crime is heartbreaking. | 你知道,任何犯罪都是令人心碎的。 |
| 600 | There's a family left with a huge | 有一个家庭留下一个巨大的 |
| 601 | hole in their heart. | 洞在他们的心脏。 |
| 602 | And I abhor all crimes, regardless of the perpetrator. | 我憎恶所有的罪行,不管凶手是谁。 |
| 603 | Victims deserve | 受害者应得的 |
| 604 | our sympathy. | 我们的同情心。 |
| 605 | They deserve our compassion. | 他们应该得到我们的同情。 |
| 606 | And that's why I've laser-focused on making New York | 这就是为什么我一直 激光聚焦于制造纽约 |
| 607 | so much more safer than it had been before. | 比以前安全得多了。 。 。 |
| 608 | I have spent $4 billion to help law enforcement | 我花了40亿来帮助执法 |
| 609 | do their jobs. | 做他们的工作。 |
| 610 | We have driven down crime to historic lows, especially violent crimes like | 我们把犯罪推向历史低点 尤其是暴力犯罪 |
| 611 | shootings and murders. | 枪击和谋杀 |
| 612 | And that didn't come easy. | 这并不容易 |
| 613 | That took a lot of work. | 这需要很多工作。 |
| 614 | I've had to change laws. | 我不得不改变法律 |
| 615 | I've had to allocate more money. | 我不得不分配更多的钱。 |
| 616 | But when you're talking about ICE, what I find so shocking | 但是当你在谈论ICE时,我发现什么是如此令人震惊 |
| 617 | is that when an American mother was murdered by ICE agents, you said that her killing was justified. | 是当一个美国母亲被ICE特工谋杀时 你说杀了她是有理由的 |
| 618 | The killing of Renee Goode was justified. | 杀害蕾妮·古德是有道理的. |
| 619 | And when asked about Alex Preti, another American citizen | 当问起另一个美国公民 Alex Preti时 |
| 620 | killed by ICE, whether that was justified, you couldn't even answer the question. | 被ICE杀死,无论这是否合理, 你甚至无法回答这个问题。 |
| 621 | So I find those answers just reprehensible. | 所以我认为这些答案是应受谴责的。 |
| 622 | So you won't apologize? | 所以你不会道歉? |
| 623 | I apologize for any pain | 我为任何痛苦道歉 |
| 624 | that has happened to anyone. | 这发生在任何人身上。 |
| 625 | You won't apologize? | 你不道歉吗? |
| 626 | This is just a clear examination. | 这只是一个明确的检查。 |
| 627 | You won't call | 你不会打电话的 |
| 628 | Sheridan Gorman's parents? | 谢里丹·戈尔曼的父母? |
| 629 | That's the question and that's the answer. | 即是问答. |
| 630 | And now, Ms. Hokel, | 现在,霍克尔女士, |
| 631 | you have a question for Bruce Blakeman. | 你有个问题要问布鲁斯·布莱克曼 |
| 632 | Yes, I do. | 是的,我会的。 |
| 633 | Just four days ago, you stood on a stage screaming | 就在四天前 你站在舞台上尖叫着 |
| 634 | at the top of your lungs, we love Donald Trump. | 在你的肺顶部,我们爱唐纳德·特朗普。 |
| 635 | You've also said he's the greatest president of | 你也说过他是 |
| 636 | your lifetime. | 你一辈子 |
| 637 | Now, which is it that makes him so great? | 现在,是什么使他如此伟大? |
| 638 | Is it the high utility costs, | 电费高吗? |
| 639 | the high grocery costs, the high gas costs? | 高杂货费,高煤气费? |
| 640 | Is it his unfettered use of ICE terrorizing | 这是他不受限制地使用 ICE恐怖 |
| 641 | our neighborhoods? | 我们的邻居? |
| 642 | Is it his throwing millions of New Yorkers off of health care? | 是因为他把数百万纽约人 扔了出去吗? |
| 643 | Which is it that makes him the greatest president, in your opinion, which you have said so many times? | 是什么让他成为你认为最伟大的总统 你说过很多次了? |
| 644 | Yeah, well, at a rally, as you know, it's a cheering section and you say things to get the | 是啊,嗯,在集会上,你知道, 这是一个欢呼的部分,你说什么来得到 |
| 645 | crowd worked up. | 人群激动起来。 |
| 646 | And I think Donald Trump deserves accolades for many of the things that he's done. | 我认为唐纳德·特朗普应该为他所做的很多事情获得荣誉. |
| 647 | Obviously, there are some disagreements in New York State with some of his policies. | 显然,纽约州对他的一些政策有一些分歧。 |
| 648 | But I've differed with Donald Trump on various policies. | 但我在各种政策上与唐纳德·特朗普有分歧. |
| 649 | As I said, he's pro-life, I'm pro-choice. | 如我所说,他是亲生命的,我是亲选择的. |
| 650 | That's a big difference in the Republican Party. | 这在共和党中差别很大. |
| 651 | I stood up for what I believed in. | 我为我所信仰的而站起来 |
| 652 | Immigration policy. | 移民政策。 |
| 653 | I believe that if you are an immigrant and you've been in this state seven, | 我相信如果你是移民 并且你已经在这个州七, |
| 654 | eight, nine, ten years, you haven't gotten in trouble, you're gainfully employed, | 八,九,十年,你没有惹上麻烦,有酬工作, |
| 655 | we should have a guest worker permit for you. | 我们应该给你一个客工许可 |
| 656 | I believe in a guest worker permit program. | 我相信一个客工许可计划。 |
| 657 | But, you know, there's two years left in Donald Trump's tenure in office. | 但是,你知道,唐纳德·特朗普的任期还有两年. |
| 658 | And I hope to see great | 我希望看到伟大的 |
| 659 | things like stopping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon that threatens New York and all New Yorkers. | 阻止伊朗获得核武器 威胁纽约和所有纽约人 |
| 660 | And I also look forward to the fact that, hopefully, we will get gas prices down. | 我也期待着这样一个事实, 希望我们能降低天然气价格。 |
| 661 | But you created the economic issues that have made us last in economic outlook, | 但你创造了经济问题 使我们在经济前景中名列前茅 |
| 662 | Kathy Hochulm, not Donald Trump. | 凯西·霍胡姆 不是唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 663 | Okay, Kennedy. | 好吧,肯尼迪。 |
| 664 | Agrees that Donald Trump is the greatest president of his lifetime. | 同意唐纳德·特朗普是他一生中最伟大的总统. |
| 665 | I didn't hear | 我没听到 |
| 666 | anything disputing that. | 任何对此有争议的东西 |
| 667 | Well, you know what? | 你知道吗? |
| 668 | Let me say this. | 让我说。 |
| 669 | In retrospect, I would say that Dwight D. Eisenhower | 回想起来 我会说德怀特·D·艾森豪威尔 |
| 670 | was the greatest president, but Donald Trump has two more years. | 但唐纳德·特朗普还有两年时间 |
| 671 | So let's see where it goes. | 故见其去处. |
| 672 | Term's not over. | 任期还没结束 |
| 673 | Well, heaven help us. | 愿上帝保佑我们 |
| 674 | We're going to go to a lightning round now. | 我们现在要去闪电回合。 |
| 675 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 676 | Will you reopen Indian Point nuclear power plant, Kathy Hochulm? | 你会重新开放印度点核电站吗 凯西·霍胡姆 |
| 677 | I'm bringing nuclear to New York State at a scale this country's not seen in 30 years. | 我给纽约州带来了核子 30年来从未见过的核子 |
| 678 | Bruce Blakeman. | 布鲁斯・布莱克曼。 |
| 679 | I'm just waiting for approval and I can do it. | 我只是在等待批准,我可以做到这一点。 |
| 680 | I have eight communities that want it. | 我有八个社区想要它。 |
| 681 | I have eight communities that want to host it. | 我有8个社区想主办 |
| 682 | I'm ready to go. | 我准备好了 |
| 683 | I'm just waiting for | 我只是在等着 |
| 684 | Washington to green light it. | 华盛顿去绿灯 |
| 685 | Yes or no, or short answer. | 是或否,或者简短的回答。 |
| 686 | Bruce Blakeman 你能重新开放印第安点吗? | |
| 687 | I believe we should open Indian Point. | 我认为我们应该打开印度点。 |
| 688 | I believe we should open up the other power | 我认为我们应该打开另一个权力 |
| 689 | plants that Kathy Hochulm has closed. | 凯西·霍胡姆关闭的植物 |
| 690 | I believe we should extract natural gas from the Marcellus | 我认为我们应该从马塞卢斯公司提取天然气 |
| 691 | Shale. | 页岩. |
| 692 | More energy increases the supply and lowers your costs. | 更多的能量能增加供给,降低成本. |
| 693 | Mr. Blakeman, have you ever used a mail-in ballot? | 布莱克曼先生 你用过邮件投票吗? |
| 694 | Not to my knowledge. | 据我所知,没有 |
| 695 | Ms. Hochulm. | 霍胡尔姆女士 |
| 696 | I don't remember. | 我不记得了 |
| 697 | Absentee when I was out of the area, but I don't think it was mail-in. | 我出局时不在场 但我不认为是邮件 |
| 698 | I like to go in person. | 我喜欢亲自去 |
| 699 | I really like to exercise my right to vote in person. | 我真的喜欢亲自行使投票权。 |
| 700 | Ms. Hochulm, should the state label at least one bathroom | Hochulm女士,国家应该给至少一个浴室贴上标签 |
| 701 | in the Capitol complex as gender neutral? | 在国会大厦中,性别中立? |
| 702 | Yes. | 对 |
| 703 | Bruce Blakeman. | 布鲁斯・布莱克曼。 |
| 704 | Well, first of all, I don't believe that biological males should use women's bathrooms | 首先,我不认为 生物男性应该使用女性浴室 |
| 705 | and locker rooms. | 还有更衣室 |
| 706 | So that's a no. | 所以这是不。 |
| 707 | And I believe that biological males should not be competing in women's sports. | 我相信生物男性不应该在女性运动中竞争。 |
| 708 | We have | 我们有 |
| 709 | to protect the integrity of women's sports and the safety of women's sports. | 保护妇女运动的诚信和妇女运动的安全。 |
| 710 | Mr. Blakeman, if you could reverse one action that you've taken as an elected official, | 布莱克曼先生,如果你能扭转 你作为民选官员采取的一项行动 |
| 711 | what would it be? | 会是什么? |
| 712 | One action that I've taken? | 我做了一件事吗? |
| 713 | You know, it's hard to say right now, but, you know, nobody's perfect. | 你知道,现在很难说 但是,你知道,没有人是完美的。 |
| 714 | And hindsight's always 20-20. | 且后观总二十二十. |
| 715 | I'm sure I've made a mistake here and there throughout the years. | 我确信我在这里和那里 都犯了个错误 |
| 716 | I rely on good people for advice. | 我依赖好人的建议。 |
| 717 | And when it's time to make a decision, I make the decision. | 当是时候做决定时 我做决定 |
| 718 | Hopefully it's right. | 希望这是正确的。 |
| 719 | I do it in the best interest of the people of my county. | 我为我县人民利益作如是事. |
| 720 | Let me help you raising taxes, not once, but twice in your county of the highest taxes. | 让我帮你提高税收,不是一次,而是两次 在你的郡最高的税收。 |
| 721 | Oh, my God. | 须菩提. |
| 722 | We're going to talk about 1998, Kathy. | 我们要谈谈1998年 凯西 |
| 723 | Let's talk about history, Kathy. | 我们谈谈历史 凯西 |
| 724 | You were pro-NRA. | 你是亲NRA的 |
| 725 | Now you're against guns. | 现在你反对枪。 |
| 726 | You wanted to give illegal migrants. | 你想给非法移民 |
| 727 | You didn't want to give illegal migrants driver's licenses. | 你不想给非法移民驾照 |
| 728 | I think we should move on. | 我认为我们应该继续前进。 |
| 729 | When you were the county clerk, now you're giving it to them. | 汝当郡吏时,今以给之. |
| 730 | Highest property taxes in New York. | 纽约最高的财产税。 |
| 731 | You're going to talk about something I did 28 years ago? | 你要谈谈我28年前做的事吗? |
| 732 | Highest property taxes in New York. | 纽约最高的财产税。 |
| 733 | I will admit I made a mistake. | 我会承认我犯了一个错误。 |
| 734 | Kathy Hochel won't, but I'll admit I made a mistake. | 凯西·霍歇尔不会 但我承认我犯了一个错误 |
| 735 | Ms. Hochel, Ms. Hochel. | 霍赫尔女士、霍赫尔女士。 |
| 736 | Almost the highest in the country, for God's sake. | 看在上帝的份上 几乎是全国最高的 |
| 737 | As mayor, as county clerk, as member of Congress, as lieutenant governor, | 作为市长,郡职员,国会议员,副州长 |
| 738 | if you could reverse one action you've taken as an elected official, as governor, what would it be? | 如果你能扭转你作为当选官员 州长所采取的一个行动 那会是什么? |
| 739 | I would say this. | 我会这么说的 |
| 740 | I wish I had fought harder to get more housing built in my first year. | 我希望我为在第一年建造更多的住房而努力奋斗。 |
| 741 | I had to come back the next year. | 我不得不在明年回来。 |
| 742 | It was difficult. | 这是困难的。 |
| 743 | I overcame a lot of opposition. | 我克服了很多反对。 |
| 744 | But when you find out that Bruce Blakeman's county, Nassau County, | 但当你发现布鲁斯布莱克曼的郡 拿骚郡 |
| 745 | is listed as the lowest number of housing units, almost in America, being built, | 被列为最低数量的住房单元, 几乎在美国,正在建造, |
| 746 | no wonder he brags about the fact that the average housing price, or the median housing price, | 难怪他吹嘘一个事实: 平均住房价格,或中位住房价格, |
| 747 | is $900,000. | 90万美元。 |
| 748 | Talk about lack of affordability. | 谈论缺乏承受能力。 |
| 749 | So again, wait, wait, can I respond to that? | 再说一遍,等等,我可以回答吗? |
| 750 | I reject. | 我拒绝。 |
| 751 | I wish I had been able to fight harder. | 我希望我能更努力地战斗。 |
| 752 | I would love to respond to that. | 我很想对此作出回应。 |
| 753 | Go for it. | 来啊 |
| 754 | So you're faulting me. | 所以你是在责怪我 |
| 755 | If you bought a house four years ago in Nassau County for $600,000, | 如果你四年前在拿骚郡用60万买房子 |
| 756 | it's now worth $850,000 because of my policies. | 现在,它的价值85万 因为我的政策。 |
| 757 | I have created a quarter of a million dollars | 我创造了25万美金 |
| 758 | in wealth for you and your families. | 以便你们和你们的家属获得财产。 |
| 759 | Kathy Hochul wants to take that away with taxes. | 凯西·霍胡尔想拿掉税 |
| 760 | I'm proud of the fact that I created that wealth for your family. | 我为你家族创造财富感到骄傲 |
| 761 | Great. | 不错 |
| 762 | What about the Yon family trying to get a home in Nassau County? | 尹家想在拿骚县找家怎么办? |
| 763 | I guess if you own that $900,000, you're out of luck. | 我猜如果你拥有这90万元,你就走运了. |
| 764 | Candidates, we're going to move on. | 候选人,我们要继续前进。 |
| 765 | The rise of artificial intelligence is transforming the | 人工智能的兴起正在改变 |
| 766 | global economy. | 全球经济。 |
| 767 | It has galvanized an international debate over how to use the technology, who will | 它引发了关于如何使用该技术的国际辩论,谁将 |
| 768 | benefit, and who will pay the cost. | 福利,谁支付费用。 |
| 769 | I'll start with you, Ms. Hochul. | 我从你开始,霍赫尔女士 |
| 770 | You were the first to | 你是第一个 |
| 771 | issue a moratorium on data center facilities with other governors from both parties following | 其后,与双方其他州长发布暂停数据中心设施的命令 |
| 772 | suit. | 西装 |
| 773 | Lawmakers are now urging you to take it a step further and sign a moratorium bill | 立法者现在敦促你们再进一步,签署一项暂停法案 |
| 774 | that would impact existing data centers. | 这将影响现有的数据中心。 |
| 775 | The question is, will you sign that legislation? | 问题是,你会签署这项立法吗? |
| 776 | Why or why not? | 为什么? |
| 777 | You know my policy. | 你知道我的政策 |
| 778 | I know you try. | 我知道你在尝试。 |
| 779 | Nice try. | 不错 |
| 780 | I don't say what I'm going to do before I | 我不说我要做什么之前 |
| 781 | have a chance to evaluate the bills. | 有机会评估账单。 |
| 782 | I get over 800 bills on my desk, but I am proud | 我桌上有800多张钞票 但我很骄傲 |
| 783 | we were first in the nation with the moratorium for one year on data centers. | 我们在全国第一个暂停了一年的数据中心。 |
| 784 | I am going to make | 我会做 |
| 785 | sure that if they come here and a host community wants them, that number one, that community gets | 当然,如果他们来到这里 和东道社区想要他们, 第一,那个社区得到 |
| 786 | substantial benefits, millions of dollars that they should get for every megawatt of power used, | 他们每用一兆瓦的电力就能得到数百万美元 |
| 787 | and they have to bring their own power. | 他们必须拥有自己的力量 |
| 788 | They also have to find ways to reduce the noise and | 他们还必须设法减少噪音, |
| 789 | manage the water situation. | 管理水的状况。 |
| 790 | So if they do come and it's up to the localities, | 所以,如果他们来了, 这取决于当地, |
| 791 | I wanted them to have a community framework, but we didn't have enough power. | 我希望他们有一个社区框架 但我们没有足够的力量 |
| 792 | We have 30 | 我们有30个 |
| 793 | applications in front of us right now. | 现在在我们面前应用 |
| 794 | If we approved all of them, we wouldn't be able to | 如果我们都批准了,我们就不能 |
| 795 | turn on the lights in New York. | 在纽约开灯 |
| 796 | And so I'm trying to have a smart policy. | 所以我想制定明智的政策。 |
| 797 | We are pro technology, | 我们是专业科技的 |
| 798 | pro innovation. | 推动创新。 |
| 799 | That's why more tech companies have come to New York State in recent history | 所以最近才有更多的科技公司来到纽约州 |
| 800 | than they ever have. | 从来没有过 |
| 801 | We actually surpassed Silicon Valley and San Francisco for the most | 我们实际上超过了硅谷和旧金山最多 |
| 802 | number of tech jobs. | 技术工作的数量。 |
| 803 | So we know how to embrace technology, take a strong look at the impact of | 因此,我们知道如何接受技术, 强烈地审视影响 |
| 804 | those who are going to be displaced by technology. | 将因技术而流离失所的人。 |
| 805 | I have a commission studying how we can help | 我有一个委员会 研究如何帮助 |
| 806 | people with my free community college, be able to have new jobs, but also saying data centers, | 拥有免费社区大学的人, 能够有新的工作, 但也说数据中心, |
| 807 | no. | 没有 |
| 808 | And also Brookhaven, Tana Brookhaven, and ISLIP, they have moratoriums. | 还有布鲁克哈芬,塔纳布鲁克哈芬, 和ISLIP, 他们有暂停。 |
| 809 | Can I respond? | 我能回答吗? |
| 810 | First of all, when you say you don't say what you're going to do before you do it, | 首先,当你说不说 你要做的之前, |
| 811 | you say what you're going to do, and then you don't do it. | 汝当说汝所行,然后不作. |
| 812 | You said we weren't going to have | 你说我们不会 |
| 813 | congestion pricing, then we had congestion pricing. | 拥堵定价,然后我们有拥堵定价。 |
| 814 | So you did a complete U-turn there. | 所以,你做了一个完整的U -转。 |
| 815 | That's just a tax on the middle class. | 那只是对中产阶级的征税. |
| 816 | But let me talk about data centers. | 让我来谈谈数据中心 |
| 817 | You put a ban in | 你放了一个禁令 |
| 818 | because you said that you needed time to figure it out. | 因为你说你需要时间去想清楚 |
| 819 | What have you been doing for the last | 你最近做了什麽? |
| 820 | four years? | 四年吗? |
| 821 | This is the fastest growing industry in the world. | 这是世界上增长最快的工业. |
| 822 | Water supply is an issue. | 供水是一个问题。 |
| 823 | Energy is | 能量是 |
| 824 | an issue. | 一个问题。 |
| 825 | Tax stabilization is an issue. | 稳定税收是一个问题。 |
| 826 | Why didn't you get all the stakeholders in the same | 你怎么不把所有的利害关系人都搞到一起 |
| 827 | room and figure it out instead of saying no to the fastest growing industry in the world? | 而不是拒绝世界上增长最快的产业? |
| 828 | That's why we're number 50 in economic outlook. | 所以我们在经济展望中排名第50位. |
| 829 | That's why thousands of people are leaving our | 这就是为什么成千上万的人离开我们 |
| 830 | state. | 状态。 |
| 831 | That's why thousands of jobs are leaving our state each and every day. | 所以每天有成千上万个工作离开我们的国家 |
| 832 | I want all of you out there to hear this. | 我希望大家听到这个。 |
| 833 | He said that my one-year pause, my moratorium on data | 他说我暂停了一年,暂停了数据 |
| 834 | centers was crazy. | 中心是疯了。 |
| 835 | He supports Donald Trump, who said only poor, dumb people support posing this. | 他支持唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump),他只说穷人,哑人支持这样作. |
| 836 | I want to say I've traveled all of New York State. | 我想说我旅行过纽约州 |
| 837 | There's a high level of anxiety about what these | 对这些东西有高度的焦虑 |
| 838 | hyperscale massive data centers will do. | 超大尺度的数据中心就够了 |
| 839 | And I know it fits into your vision for upstate New York | 我知道这符合你在纽约州北部的愿景 |
| 840 | because you also want oil rigs and gas rigs all over New York to drill your oil. | 因为你还希望 石油钻机和煤气钻机 在纽约各地钻油。 |
| 841 | That's | 这是 |
| 842 | complete nonsense. | 胡说八道 |
| 843 | And drill your gas. | 钻你的油。 |
| 844 | You want to see data centers. | 你想看看数据中心。 |
| 845 | You want smoke. | 你想抽烟。 |
| 846 | Kathy, that's complete nonsense. | 凯西,这完全是胡说八道 |
| 847 | Smoke decks everywhere. | 烟台到处都是 |
| 848 | I've seen that world. | 我见过那个世界 |
| 849 | We don't want to go back. | 我们不想回去 |
| 850 | With respect to upstate people, | 关于高州人, |
| 851 | you took their right away to make decisions about data centers. | 你马上去决定数据中心 |
| 852 | You took that right away with the | 你把那个直接拿了 |
| 853 | ban. | 禁令。 |
| 854 | And then you said that upstaters weren't sophisticated enough to make important choices. | 然后你说,高管不够尖端 做出重要的选择。 |
| 855 | Let me tell you something about upstaters because I've been traveling all around upstate | 让我告诉你一些关于上司的事 因为我一直在州外旅行 |
| 856 | and you forgot where you came from. | 你忘了你来自哪里 |
| 857 | They have something you don't have, | 他们有你没有的东西, |
| 858 | common sense and good judgment. | 常识和判断力 |
| 859 | Blakeman先生,让我问问 | |
| 860 | not all counties are as large or as well funded as Nassau. | 并不是所有的郡都像拿骚那样大或者资金充足. |
| 861 | What about some of the smaller counties that need to negotiate with some of these | 一些较小的郡需要和这些郡谈判 |
| 862 | multi-billion dollar tech giants? | 数十亿美元的科技巨头? |
| 863 | Well, I'll tell you, I've spoken to a | 好吧,我跟你说,我跟一个 |
| 864 | lot of upstate local officials and I can tell you and I can assure you that they are pretty sharp. | 我向你保证,他们很聪明。 |
| 865 | Look, don't minimize what New Yorkers are capable of doing just because they come from a small town. | 听着,不要因为纽约人来自一个小镇 就贬低他们的能力 |
| 866 | I think that's a bias. | 我认为这是一种偏见。 |
| 867 | Just like Kathy Hochul said, the black kids in the Bronx | 就像凯西·霍胡尔说的 布朗克斯的黑人小孩 |
| 868 | don't know what a computer is. | 不知道电脑是什么 |
| 869 | Do you even know that in your schools, Kathy Hochul, that you fund, | 你知道在你的学校,凯西・霍胡尔, 你资助, |
| 870 | that in sixth grade they get computers in the classroom? | 在六年级 他们得到计算机 在教室? |
| 871 | They know more about computers than you'll ever know. | 他们比你更了解电脑 |
| 872 | I've got another AI related question for both of you. | 我还有另一个AI问题要问你们俩 |
| 873 | Artificial intelligence | 人工智能 |
| 874 | is being used in this campaign, especially by you, Mr. Blakeman, in political ads. | 特别是你 布莱克曼先生 在政治广告中 |
| 875 | Should there be stricter regulation of how AI is used in ads in order to ensure that they're | 对于广告中AI的使用,是否应当有更严格的规定,以确保它们是 |
| 876 | not misleading? | 不是误导? |
| 877 | I'll start with you, Mr. Blake. | 我从你开始,布莱克先生 |
| 878 | Well, we do have a disclaimer on our ads that | 我们的广告上有免责声明 |
| 879 | said we use AI. | 说我们使用AI。 |
| 880 | And look, AI is just another tool. | 你看,AI只是另一个工具。 |
| 881 | I mean, I guess we can go back to using | 我的意思是,我想我们可以回去使用 |
| 882 | a buggy whip and drive it around in horse-drawn buggies and get rid of cars. | 一只鞭子,用拖马车的鞭子 来驱赶汽车 |
| 883 | Although Kathy Hochul wants to get rid of gas cars and make everybody drive electric cars. | 虽然凯西·霍胡尔想摆脱煤气汽车,让所有人驾驶电动汽车. |
| 884 | But the fact of the matter is that as far as I'm concerned, I believe in the ingenuity of | 但事实是,就我而言,我相信... |
| 885 | New Yorkers. | 纽约人。 |
| 886 | My trust is in New Yorkers to make those important decisions. | 我信任纽约人做出这些重要决定。 |
| 887 | Ms. Hochul, do we need additional regulation on how AI is used in ads? | Hochul女士,我们需要对广告中如何使用AI作出额外规定吗? |
| 888 | Yes. | 对 |
| 889 | Just look at what he did this summer. | 看看他这个夏天做了什么 |
| 890 | He has so little to say about me on my record | 他在我的记录中很少提到我 |
| 891 | that he literally has to go to an AI generated ad to say something bad about me. | 他实际上必须去一个AI 生成的广告 说一些坏我。 |
| 892 | And he's trying to mislead the voters. | 他试图误导选民。 |
| 893 | And I think this is so pathetic. | 我觉得这太可悲了 |
| 894 | It is so Trumpian, | 它是如此的特朗普, |
| 895 | in fact. | 事实上 |
| 896 | Trump, Trump, Trump. | 特朗普,特朗普,特朗普. |
| 897 | Well, you're the one who says he's the greatest president, | 是你说他是最伟大的总统 |
| 898 | you love him. | 你爱他 |
| 899 | So those are your own words. | 所以那是你自己的话 |
| 900 | And you blame him for everything that you've | 你责备他的一切 |
| 901 | done in the state to make us number 50 in economic outlook. | 为了让我们在经济前景中排名第50 |
| 902 | And back to the question. | 而复问言. |
| 903 | I'm sorry to interrupt. | 抱歉打断你 |
| 904 | Go ahead. | 来吧。 |
| 905 | Back to the question that we were asked. | 回到我们被问到的问题。 |
| 906 | My apologies. | 对不起 |
| 907 | No, we should not have AI generated ads. | 不,我们不应该有AI生成的广告。 |
| 908 | I had a bill in the legislature that said | 我在议会有个议案说 |
| 909 | within 90 days of an election that you should not even just have your tiny little disclaimer | 在选举90天之内 你甚至不应该有 你的小 免责声明 |
| 910 | that nobody sees. | 没有人看到。 |
| 911 | You should just not use it. | 你不应该用它。 |
| 912 | I'm going to revisit that because I believe in | 我要重温一下 因为我相信 |
| 913 | election integrity. | 选举廉正。 |
| 914 | I don't believe we should be having stolen elections or palling around with | 我认为我们不应该 偷选举 或闲逛 |
| 915 | QAnon conspiracy theorists or election deniers and white supremacists like my opponent does. | 卡农阴谋论者 或选举否认者 和白人的优越主义者 就像我的对手一样 |
| 916 | He pales around with all these people. | 他和这些人在一起很苍白 |
| 917 | That's why he has no trouble lying in ads. | 所以他才在广告里撒谎 |
| 918 | Shame on you for calling me, palling around with white supremacists. | 真可惜你打电话给我 跟白人至高无上主义者纠缠在一起 |
| 919 | I never went around with white supremacists. | 我从没跟白人至上主义者一起过 |
| 920 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 921 | I'm offended by that. | 我为这而生气。 |
| 922 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 923 | But let's talk about your record. | 但是,让我们谈谈你的记录。 |
| 924 | I'll give you their names. | 我会告诉你他们的名字。 |
| 925 | What you said about black kids in the Bronx. | 你说的布朗克斯黑人小孩的事 |
| 926 | You know what, candidate? | 你知道吗,候选人? |
| 927 | That was reprehensible. | 这是应受谴责的。 |
| 928 | We're going to move on to something we definitely need to talk about, which is public safety. | 我们接下来要谈一些我们绝对需要谈的事, 那就是公共安全。 |
| 929 | By multiple measures, crime in our state has fallen to the lowest level in decades. | 通过多种措施,我们州的犯罪率已降至几十年来的最低水平。 |
| 930 | New York City recently experienced its safest summer on record for shooting incidents, | 纽约市最近经历了历史上最安全的射击事件 |
| 931 | victims and murders. | 受害者和谋杀 |
| 932 | Of course, other forms of crime and disorder, including auto theft, | 当然,其他形式的犯罪和混乱,包括汽车盗窃, |
| 933 | assaults and hate crimes have remained stubbornly high. | 袭击和仇恨犯罪仍然居高不下。 |
| 934 | What's the solution? | 有什么办法? |
| 935 | What do you think | 你觉得呢? |
| 936 | is working and what isn't working? | 什么在起作用,什么在起作用? |
| 937 | And let's start with you, Mr. Blakeman. | 让我们从你开始,布莱克曼先生。 |
| 938 | Well, first of all, she'll never give Donald Trump any accolades for sealing our borders. | 首先 她绝不会给唐纳德·特朗普 任何封印我们边界的奖赏 |
| 939 | Maybe that's why the shootings are down. | 也许这就是枪击事件的原因 |
| 940 | Maybe that's why all the fentanyl deaths are down, | 也许这就是为什么所有芬太尼的死亡都下降了, |
| 941 | not by anything that you did. | 不是因为你做了什么。 |
| 942 | But let me say this about crime. | 但让我说说犯罪 |
| 943 | If you walk into any CVS or Walgreens and you want to buy a bottle of shampoo, | 如果你走进任何CVS或沃尔格林 你想买一瓶洗发水 |
| 944 | in Kathy Hochul's world, you got to ring a buzzer. | 在凯西·霍胡尔的世界里 你得按铃 |
| 945 | A store clerk has to come out, | 店员必须出来 |
| 946 | unlock a glass door for you to buy a bottle of shampoo in New York State. | 打开玻璃门让你在纽约州买一瓶洗发水 |
| 947 | It's because | 因为 |
| 948 | we have a revolving door of criminality, cashless bail, raise the age, the Halt Act. | 我们有一个循环门 犯罪,无现金保释, 提高年龄, 停止法案。 |
| 949 | And you talk about militias, you're the only one on this stage that has a militia. | 而你谈论民兵, 你是唯一一个在这个阶段 有民兵。 |
| 950 | You have two, | 你有两个 |
| 951 | the National Guard and the State Guard. | 国民警卫队和国家警卫队 |
| 952 | And you have the National Guard at the cost of a billion | 你以十亿的代价拥有国民警卫队 |
| 953 | dollars a year to the taxpayers because you fired corrections officers who said these prisons are | 一年给纳税人一美元 因为你解雇了狱警 说这些监狱是 |
| 954 | not only safe for corrections officers, they're not safe for the prisoners. | 不仅对狱警来说安全,对囚犯来说也不安全。 |
| 955 | And you fired them | 你解雇了他们 |
| 956 | and put the National Guard in there. | 让国民警卫队进去 |
| 957 | You're the one that used the militia, not me. | 是你用过民兵,不是我 |
| 958 | Do people know that his crime fighting strategy for Nassau County | 人们知道他在拿骚郡的犯罪策略吗? |
| 959 | is his own personal mega militia, which has family members, his Republican donors, | 是他自己的个人特大民兵, 他们有家庭成员,他的共和党捐助者, |
| 960 | and some people are crazy enough that they literally bring a loaded gun to JFK airport. | 有些人已经疯了 他们把装满的枪带到肯尼迪机场 |
| 961 | And he also doesn't fight for himself. | 他也不为自己而战 |
| 962 | He doesn't stand up to Donald Trump ever. | 他从不支持唐纳德·特朗普. |
| 963 | You'll never see | 你永远看不到 |
| 964 | that. | 那个 |
| 965 | Because Donald Trump took away a million dollars in public safety money intended to go | 因为唐纳德·特朗普拿走了100万美元的 打算去的公共安全资金 |
| 966 | for police and fire. | 给警察和消防员 |
| 967 | And you didn't say a word about it. | 而你却一言不发 |
| 968 | You didn't criticize Donald Trump. | 你没批评唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 969 | I stood up. | 我站起来了 |
| 970 | I was able to fight with Donald Trump as I had many times a lot of wins. | 我能够和唐纳德·特朗普战斗,就像我多次赢得很多胜利一样. |
| 971 | I had to get | 我必须得去 |
| 972 | a hundred million dollars back to help fund our police and our fire. | 一亿美金回来 帮助我们的警察和我们的火。 |
| 973 | You don't even have the spine | 你连脊椎都没有 |
| 974 | to stand up to Donald Trump. | 对抗唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 975 | They're taking money from your own county. | 他们从你们自己的郡里拿钱 |
| 976 | I do not have a militia. | 我没有民兵 |
| 977 | Only you have a militia. | 只有你们有民兵 |
| 978 | And by the way, they're good people. | 顺便说一句 他们是好人 |
| 979 | They don't | 他们不会 |
| 980 | want to be in the jails. | 想进监狱 |
| 981 | They don't want to be in the prisons. | 他们不想进监狱 |
| 982 | They're not trained to do that. | 他们没受过训练 |
| 983 | But when you talk about Donald Trump, Donald Trump, Donald Trump, that's all you can talk about | 但当你谈论唐纳德·特朗普,唐纳德·特朗普,唐纳德·特朗普,这就是你可以谈论的 |
| 984 | because you have a record of failure and misery for the people who live in this state. | 因为你有记录 失败和痛苦 对于生活在这个状态的人。 |
| 985 | I did not wrap myself in the shroud of Donald Trump the way you did. | 我没有像你们那样把自己裹在唐纳德·特朗普的裹尸布里 |
| 986 | 不,你把它包裹在Zoran Mondani。 | |
| 987 | Candidate, hold on, hold on, hold on. | 候选人 坚持住 坚持住 坚持住 |
| 988 | Donald Trump actually thinks he's a great mayor. | 唐纳德·特朗普实际上认为他是一个伟大的市长. |
| 989 | Let's get Ms. Hokel on the question on the table, which is we have some prides that are going down, | 让我们把Hokel女士的问题放在桌面上, 我们有一些自豪感正在下降, |
| 990 | some that are not. | 有些没有 |
| 991 | What do you think is working? | 你觉得什么是工作? |
| 992 | What's not working? | 什么没用? |
| 993 | What can people expect if you | 狦 |
| 994 | are elected? | 当选? |
| 995 | You know, we have gotten 26,000 guns off the streets. | 你知道,我们已经得到了26000枪 在街道上。 |
| 996 | When I became governor, it was gun | 我当州长的时候 是枪 |
| 997 | crime that was skyrocketing, so we tackled that. | 犯罪是急剧上升, 所以我们解决了这一点。 |
| 998 | Retail theft. | 零售盗窃. |
| 999 | I gave millions of dollars to our | 我给了我们数百万美元 |
| 1000 | district attorneys to change the laws and give them what they need to be able to reduce those | 地区律师将修改法律,并给予他们必要的资源,使他们能够减少这些障碍。 |
| 1001 | crimes. | 罪行。 |
| 1002 | Those crimes are going down. | 这些罪行正在减少。 |
| 1003 | Auto theft was going up. | 汽车盗窃案正在上升 |
| 1004 | As well as the staged car crashes, | 和舞台上的车祸, |
| 1005 | I literally just changed the laws, taking on some really difficult interests in Albany. | 我从字面上改变了法律, 承担了奥尔巴尼的一些非常困难的利益。 |
| 1006 | I came out on top because I said, there's no reason why New Yorkers should pay the highest | 我上楼是因为我说 纽约人没有理由付最高的 |
| 1007 | auto insurance premiums in the nation. | 全国的汽车保险费。 |
| 1008 | Our drivers aren't any worse. | 我们的车手不差 |
| 1009 | So what I did was I stood up, | 我所做的就是站起来 |
| 1010 | I changed the law, and you'll start to see a large number of cases being brought by prosecutors that | 我修改了法律,你会看到 检察官提起的大量案件 |
| 1011 | were funding, stopping those staged car crashes that are driving up costs. | 阻止了那些导致成本上升的车祸 |
| 1012 | Whatever the issue is, | 不管问题是什么 |
| 1013 | when it pops up, we go at it. | 当它弹出,我们去它。 |
| 1014 | I'm not done with solving crime. | 我还没解决好犯罪 |
| 1015 | It's never going to be solved. | 终不能解. |
| 1016 | I've made a huge difference, though, going from a time when we had the highest crime rates. | 不过,从犯罪率最高的时代开始,我已有很大的改变。 |
| 1017 | The | 那个 |
| 1018 | escalation was off the charts to some of the lowest crime rates we've had in modern history, | 犯罪率是现代史上最低的 |
| 1019 | and I'm proud of that. | 我为此感到骄傲。 |
| 1020 | We're going to move on to prison safety. | 我们要进入监狱安全 |
| 1021 | I think that's a fantasy. | 我觉得那是幻想 |
| 1022 | I'm | и琌 |
| 1023 | sorry, Mr. Blakeman. | 对不起,布莱克曼先生 |
| 1024 | We're going to move on to prison safety. | 我们要进入监狱安全 |
| 1025 | Let me just respond. | 让我回答一下 |
| 1026 | It's been 19 | 已经19年了 |
| 1027 | months since thousands of corrections over the monitor. | 数月之后 成千上万的更正 显示器。 |
| 1028 | That's pretty bad. | 这是相当糟糕的。 |
| 1029 | For one minute. | 一分钟。 |
| 1030 | We don't have time. | 我们没时间了 |
| 1031 | She said a lot of things there. | 她在那里说了很多话 |
| 1032 | It's been 19 months since thousands of | 已经19个月了 |
| 1033 | correction officers returned to work after a three-week illegal strike. | 惩戒人员在为期三周的非法罢工后返回工作岗位。 |
| 1034 | Despite an ongoing | 虽有持续 |
| 1035 | recruitment campaign, there are fewer corrections officers than at this time one year ago. | 与一年前相比,现在的惩戒人员较少。 |
| 1036 | That's a | 这是 |
| 1037 | 56 percent vacancy rate among prison workers. | 监狱工作人员的空缺率为56%。 |
| 1038 | Meanwhile, there are national guard troops | 同时,还有国民警卫队 |
| 1039 | working in our prisons, costing taxpayers a billion dollars since the strike. | 我们的监狱工作, 花费纳税人10亿美元 自罢工以来。 |
| 1040 | What do you | 你怎么样 |
| 1041 | say to explain this failure to attract workers, and was it a mistake to fire the striking workers? | 说来解释这个吸引工人的失败,解雇罢工工人是不是一个错误? |
| 1042 | When someone who's charged and took an oath of office to protect people inside a facility | 当有人被起诉并宣誓就职 保护设施里的人时 |
| 1043 | engages in a wildcat illegal strike and walks off the job leaving other guards, other health | 参加野猫非法罢工 离开工作 离开其他警卫 离开其他健康 |
| 1044 | care workers and people in the kitchen, and the incarcerated population, leaving them alone, | 护理人员和厨房里的人 以及被监禁的人 让他们独自一人 |
| 1045 | literally jeopardizing the safety of an entire community. | 完全危及整个社区的安全 |
| 1046 | They walked out the door and shut it. | 他们走出门关上了 |
| 1047 | What do you want me to do? | 你要我怎么办? |
| 1048 | I sure as hell will fire them. | 我肯定会解雇他们 |
| 1049 | I would say you violated the law. | 我会说你违反了法律。 |
| 1050 | Shame on you. | 耻曰. |
| 1051 | And we can resolve all the problems that you have. | 我们可以解决你的所有问题。 |
| 1052 | But I think a lot of it had to do | 但我觉得有很多事情要做 |
| 1053 | with the fact that there have been a lot of public outcry and attention. | 公众对此非常不满和关注 |
| 1054 | The fact that that very week, | 事实上,就在那个星期, |
| 1055 | that very day that they walked out, there were supposed to be indictments on a number of them | 就在他们走出去的那天 他们中有些人应该被起诉 |
| 1056 | for the murder of an incarcerated individual. | 谋杀一个被监禁的人 |
| 1057 | They were trying to deflect. | 他们试图转移。 |
| 1058 | And yes, there are | 是的,这是 |
| 1059 | and we're trying hard to recruit more people. | 我们正在努力招募更多的人 |
| 1060 | I've changed the age. | 我改变了年龄。 |
| 1061 | I've launched an aggressive | 我发动攻击 |
| 1062 | program to make it easier to take the test, to go into our communities, going to churches, | 更方便测试 进入社区 去教堂 |
| 1063 | and all over the state trying to get more people to do it. | 并遍及全州,试图让更多人去做. |
| 1064 | But in the meantime, | 但与此同时, |
| 1065 | I will not leave our populations unprotected the way he would do it. | 我不会像他那样不保护我们人民 |
| 1066 | You took an oath as well to support the Constitution of the United States, | 你宣誓也支持美国宪法 |
| 1067 | and you violated federal laws on and on again. | 你一再违反联邦法律 |
| 1068 | You are paying illegal migrants with our taxpayer | 你和我们的纳税人一起付钱给非法移民 |
| 1069 | money, $8 billion for free food, free housing, free transportation, a free cell phone. | 80亿美元用于免费食物 免费住房 免费交通 免费手机 |
| 1070 | They | 他们 |
| 1071 | get more than we do. | 得到比我们更多的。 |
| 1072 | And think about this. | 且想这个. |
| 1073 | If you get out of work, if you're laid off, | 如果你失业了 如果你被解雇了 |
| 1074 | if you're fired, and you want to get unemployment, you get less benefits as a New Yorker than the | 如果你被解雇了,你想失业, 你得到的福利比纽约人少 |
| 1075 | $31,000 of your taxpayer money that Kathy Hochul spends each year on illegal migrants | 凯西・霍赫尔每年花在非法移民身上的31 000美元 |
| 1076 | in our state. | 在我们的州。 |
| 1077 | I will end our sanctuary state status on day one as governor. | 我将在第一日结束我们作为州长的地位 |
| 1078 | The topic on the table is prisons. | 讨论的主题是监狱。 |
| 1079 | And how would you handle an illegal strike on your watch? | 你会如何处理非法罢工 在你的表? |
| 1080 | And how would you bolster recruitment? | 你怎么支持招募工作? |
| 1081 | Well, first of all, there never would have been a strike had I been governor. | 首先,如果我是州长 就不会有罢工 |
| 1082 | Everybody strikes under Kathy Hochul. | 所有人都在凯西·霍胡尔手下行动 |
| 1083 | The nurses strike, the railroad workers strike, | 护士罢工 铁路工人罢工 |
| 1084 | because she won't sit at the table and talk about issues that are important to the workers here in | 因为她不会坐在桌上 谈论对这里的工人很重要的问题 |
| 1085 | New York state. | 纽约州. |
| 1086 | She is the most anti-union governor in the history of the state of New York. | 她是纽约州历史上最反对工会的州长. |
| 1087 | She brought in nurses from out of state. | 她从州外引进了护士 |
| 1088 | Our nurses, our New York nurses, were saying that | 我们的护士,我们的纽约护士, 说: |
| 1089 | there wasn't enough coverage to take care of the patients, so they went on strike. | 没有足够的保险 照顾病人, 所以他们罢工。 |
| 1090 | You brought in out-of-state workers to break that strike line. | 你带了国外工人来 打破罢工线。 |
| 1091 | The Long Island Railroad, | 长岛铁路 |
| 1092 | they went on strike. | 他们罢工了。 |
| 1093 | Time and time again, you have failed to engage the people that work for you. | 你一次又一次地未能与那些为你工作的人接触。 |
| 1094 | This corrections officer strike never should have happened. | 这次惩戒人员罢工 不该发生 |
| 1095 | You should have listened to them. | 你应该听他们的 |
| 1096 | And by the way, it's not just the corrections officers. | 顺便说一句,不仅仅是惩教人员 |
| 1097 | The prisoners are complaining now | 犯人们在抱怨 |
| 1098 | that it's unsafe under your policies of having violent criminals engage with people in the | 在你的政策下, 暴力罪犯与人们在 |
| 1099 | general population. | 总人口。 |
| 1100 | 30 seconds for Hochul, and then we're moving on. | 给霍赫尔30秒 然后我们继续前进 |
| 1101 | I have the most pro-labor record of any governor in decades, and they know that. | 我有几十年来最亲实验室的州长记录 他们知道这一点 |
| 1102 | That's why I have | 这就是为什么我有 |
| 1103 | the endorsements of all the major unions. | 所有大工会的认可。 |
| 1104 | They know I stand up and fight like hell for them to | 他们知道我挺身而出,为了他们而拼命战斗 |
| 1105 | make sure they have the conditions they deserve and the benefits they deserve. | 确保他们拥有应有的条件和应有的利益。 |
| 1106 | And they know I | 他们知道我 |
| 1107 | have their back. | 有他们的背。 |
| 1108 | As someone who's worked with union workers my entire life, when you bring up | 作为一个曾经在工会工作过的人 我一生,当你提起 |
| 1109 | something like the nurses, I stand with the nurses. | 就像护士一样 我和护士站在一起 |
| 1110 | I know how hard they work. | 我知道他们有多努力 |
| 1111 | But you would say | 但你会说 |
| 1112 | it's better when nurses are striking out front as they're allowed legally to do, | 当护士们被合法允许时 防守在前面会更好 |
| 1113 | that I shouldn't make sure that there's someone standing at the bed of someone who's sick and | 我不应该确保 有人站在床上 谁生病了, |
| 1114 | dying, that I should just leave them alone. | 死了,我只应该离开他们一个人。 |
| 1115 | I had no choice. | 我别无选择 |
| 1116 | I'll always stand up with New Yorkers. | 我会一直和纽约人站在一起 |
| 1117 | If I had to bring someone from somewhere else, I'm sorry, I did not want to do that. | 如果我不得不从别的地方带人来 对不起 我不想这么做 |
| 1118 | But I said, | 但我说, |
| 1119 | I cannot jeopardize the safety and the health of our residents. | 我不能危及我们居民的安全和健康。 |
| 1120 | As governor, I would have gotten | 作为州长,我会得到 |
| 1121 | actively engaged in the negotiations to make sure there was no strike. | 积极参与谈判以确保没有罢工。 |
| 1122 | That's what leaders do. | 领导者就是这样做的. |
| 1123 | And you threatened to fire 10,000 people on Christmas Eve in your county and great relations | 你在平安夜威胁要炒一万人 在你的县和伟大的关系 |
| 1124 | with your county. | 和你的县。 |
| 1125 | I never made such a threat. | 我从没威胁过 |
| 1126 | Mr. Blakeman, audio obtained by the New York Times. | 布莱克曼先生,纽约时报的录音 |
| 1127 | Check my social media, my Instagram page. | 看看我的社交媒体 我的Instagram页面 |
| 1128 | We will document that that never happened. | 我们将记录这从未发生的情况。 |
| 1129 | Audio obtained by the New York Times shows you, Mr. Blakeman, told attendees at a Hasidic event | 纽约时报的音频显示 布莱克曼先生 告诉你参加哈西迪克事件 |
| 1130 | that, quote, if there is rioting here, if they're burning down yeshivas in your shuls | 引用一下,如果这里有暴乱, 如果他们烧了犹太教 在你的shuls |
| 1131 | 你觉得Zoran Mamdani会阻止她们吗? | |
| 1132 | First of all, who exactly were you referring to, the they? | 首先,你指的是谁? |
| 1133 | And do you stand by those remarks? | 你支持这些话吗? |
| 1134 | So first of all, they are the professional protesters that took over Columbia University, | 所以,首先,他们是专业的抗议者 接管哥伦比亚大学, |
| 1135 | that blocked our bridges and our roadways with the lawlessness that took place. | 封锁了我们的桥梁和道路 与发生的无政府状态。 |
| 1136 | While Kathy Hochul wouldn't protect Jewish students at Columbia University, | 凯西·霍胡尔不会保护哥伦比亚大学的犹太学生 |
| 1137 | Jews who are being attacked all around our state, Zoran Mamdani is an anti-Semite. | 正在我们州周围遭到攻击的犹太人 Zoran Mamdani是反塞米特人 |
| 1138 | The first thing he did as mayor with all the issues that faced New York City, the first thing | 他作为市长所做的第一件事 面对纽约市的所有问题,第一件事 |
| 1139 | he did was sign an executive order to water down the definition of anti-Semitism. | 他确实在签署一项行政命令,以淡化反犹太主义的定义。 |
| 1140 | Shame on you, | 真丢脸 |
| 1141 | mayor. | 市长 |
| 1142 | You are campaigning around the state with a guy who doesn't believe in American values. | 你在州里和一个不相信美国价值观的人竞选 |
| 1143 | He talks about collectivism. | 他谈论集体主义. |
| 1144 | That means you take personal property rights away. | 这意味着你夺走个人的财产权。 |
| 1145 | You take other people's property rights. | 你拿走别人的产权 |
| 1146 | This is a guy that's anti-Christian, | 这个人是反基督教的 |
| 1147 | couldn't find an hour out of his day to attend the installation of a new archbishop here in | 一天不到一个小时 无法参加新大主教的就职典礼 |
| 1148 | New York City, the biggest religion in the city of New York. | 纽约市,纽约市最大的宗教. |
| 1149 | Look, if you want to campaign with | 听着,如果你想参加竞选 |
| 1150 | them, that's fine. | 他们,这很好。 |
| 1151 | But I will tell you right now, I think Zoran Mamdani is an anti-Semite. | 但我现在会告诉你 我认为Zoran Mamdani是个反塞米特人 |
| 1152 | I believe he's anti-Christian and I don't think he has American values. | 我相信他反基督教 我认为他没有美国价值观 |
| 1153 | 30 seconds to governor. | 30秒到州长。 |
| 1154 | I'm actually going to answer your question | 我真的要回答你的问题 |
| 1155 | since you asked about the conversation he had at a secret meeting where he basically said | 既然你问起他的谈话 他在一个秘密会议上 基本上他说 |
| 1156 | that NYPD under the leadership of Jessica Tisch would not respond to this neighborhood | Jessica Tisch领导下的纽约警局 不会回应这个街区 |
| 1157 | if there were women being raped and people being murdered and riots in the streets. | 如果有妇女被强奸,有人被谋杀和在街头暴动。 |
| 1158 | He | |
| 1159 | said he would not trust them to show up. | 说他不相信他们来 |
| 1160 | I stand with the men and women in blue | 我站在男人和女人的蓝色 |
| 1161 | every day of the week. | 这周的每一天 |
| 1162 | I know how hard they work. | 我知道他们有多努力 |
| 1163 | They put their lives on the line | 他们把生命放在线上 |
| 1164 | and I support the leadership of Jessica Tisch. | 我支持杰西卡·蒂施的领导 |
| 1165 | But for you to say that they would stand down | 但你要说他们会退下 |
| 1166 | is just insulting all those men and women. | 只是侮辱了所有的男人和女人 |
| 1167 | First of all, let's call it the way it is. | 首先,让我们把它称为它的方式。 |
| 1168 | I'm talking about political leaders getting involved in law enforcement when they shouldn't be. | 我说的是政治领袖不应该参与执法的时候. |
| 1169 | Like what happened under David Dinkins when he waited three days before he stopped the rioting | 就像David Dinkins在三天前 等他停止暴乱时发生的事 |
| 1170 | {\fn华文楷体\fs16\1cHE0E0E0}在皇冠高地 | |
| 1171 | 我对Jessica Tisch很有信心 | |
| 1172 | As a matter of fact, if there's | 事实上,如果有 |
| 1173 | a compliment I could give to Zoran Mandami, it's in keeping her as the police commissioner. | 我可以向Zoran Mandami致以赞美之词 是为了让她继续当警察局长 |
| 1174 | But let's be clear. | 但说明. |
| 1175 | Let's move on. | 让我们继续前进。 |
| 1176 | Anti-Semitism is on the rise and it's occurred under your watch and Zoran Mandami is fueling it. | 反犹主义正在兴起 在你的监视下发生 佐兰·曼达米正在助长它 |
| 1177 | Okay candidates, we're coming down the home stretch. | 好了,候选人们,我们到家了 |
| 1178 | Just a few minutes left. | 还有几分钟 |
| 1179 | I wanted to ask this to both of you. | 我想问你们俩。 |
| 1180 | Medicaid makes up about a third of the state budget. | 医疗补助约占国家预算的三分之一。 |
| 1181 | Under the five budgets enacted since you became governor, Ms. Hokel, | 根据你成为州长以来的五份预算 霍克尔女士 |
| 1182 | the state's share of Medicaid has grown by about 21 billion dollars, which is four times the rate | 州内医疗补助的份额增加了约210亿美元,是这个比例的四倍 |
| 1183 | of inflation with no major expansion of benefits. | 没有大幅扩大福利的通货膨胀。 |
| 1184 | It seems unsustainable, but the question is, | 这似乎是不可持续的,但问题是, |
| 1185 | if we're going to continue down this road, what will you cut? | 如果我们继续走这条路 你会切什么? |
| 1186 | How will we make that budget work? | 我们如何使预算发挥作用? |
| 1187 | No, I've already had to look at this and much of it is set by formula. | 不,我已经不得不看这个了 大部分都是按公式设定的 |
| 1188 | We find out at the beginning | 我们一开始就知道了 |
| 1189 | of the year what we're required to do. | 年,我们被要求做什么。 |
| 1190 | With that being said, I went after and found a program where | 说到这里,我找到了一个程序 |
| 1191 | I cut out the first year one billion dollars worst of abuse that was being ignored for many people | 我剪掉了第一年10亿美元 最恶劣的虐待 被许多人忽视 |
| 1192 | before my time and we fought back and now those savings are up to two billion dollars. | 之前,我们反击 现在这些储蓄高达20亿美元。 |
| 1193 | But I'll | 但我会的 |
| 1194 | tell you what I would not do. | 告诉你我不会做什么 |
| 1195 | I'll continue focusing on this, but my opponent said he'll | 我会继续专注于这个 但我的对手说他会 |
| 1196 | cut Medicaid in half. | 医疗补助减半。 |
| 1197 | Now to do that, I want to know which hospitals you're shutting down, | 现在,我想知道 你关闭的医院, |
| 1198 | which nursing homes you're going to shut down and where grandma's going to go when she has nowhere | 你们要关闭哪些疗养院 奶奶无处可去 |
| 1199 | to stay and you're going to throw more people off of health insurance. | 你会把更多的人扔出医疗保险。 |
| 1200 | That's your vision for New | 这就是你对新世界的看法 |
| 1201 | York. | 约克 |
| 1202 | It is certainly not mine. | 它当然不是我的。 |
| 1203 | We'll manage our costs. | 我们会管理我们的费用。 |
| 1204 | We've been able to do this without having | 我们做到了这一点,没有 |
| 1205 | to raise any income taxes. | 提高任何所得税。 |
| 1206 | That's called good fiscal stewardship. | 这叫做良好的财政管理。 |
| 1207 | The fact that I can do all this, | 事实上,我可以做到这一点, |
| 1208 | find out some fraud and waste, we've eliminated it, we have more to go, but also by not raising | 找出一些欺诈和浪费, 我们已经消除它,我们还有更多的去, |
| 1209 | taxes is something that we're going to continue doing. | 税收是我们将继续做的事情。 |
| 1210 | Let me be clear. | 让我说清楚 |
| 1211 | I never said | 我从来没有说过 |
| 1212 | that I would cut Medicaid in half. | 我会把医疗补助减半 |
| 1213 | What I did say is that the Medicaid costs to the | 我说的是医疗补助费 |
| 1214 | taxpayers of New York state are more than Texas and Florida combined. | 纽约州的纳税人比得克萨斯州和佛罗里达州加起来还要多. |
| 1215 | There are five million people | 还有五百万人 |
| 1216 | who are eligible for Medicaid and deserve it and deserve better services and more quality services, | (c) 有资格获得医疗补助并应得到更好的服务和质量更高的服务; |
| 1217 | but eight million people, three million more are getting benefits. | 但八百万人,还有三百万人得到好处 |
| 1218 | How do you explain the fact | 你怎么解释这个事实 |
| 1219 | that five million people are eligible and eight million people are getting benefits? | 500万人有资格 和800万人得到福利? |
| 1220 | That's why our costs are out of control. | 这就是为什么我们的费用失控。 |
| 1221 | Okay, candidates, we have time for a short lightning | 好了,候选人们,我们有时间玩闪电 |
| 1222 | round before we conclude. | 在结束前再转 |
| 1223 | And I'll start with you, Mr. Blakeman. | 从你开始,布莱克曼先生 |
| 1224 | Should the dangers of artificial | 如果人为危险 |
| 1225 | intelligence be treated like any other form of product liability? | 将情报视为任何其他形式的产品责任? |
| 1226 | Well, I think yes. | 嗯,我认为是的。 |
| 1227 | I think | 我觉得 |
| 1228 | basically if any kind of injury to the public occurs and it's because of the negligence | 基本上,如果任何类型的伤害 发生在公众 和它是因为疏忽 |
| 1229 | or the hazards of a business doing business, that people have a right to be compensated for that | 或做生意的企业的危害,即人们有权获得补偿; |
| 1230 | as it is with any other industry. | 和任何其他行业一样 |
| 1231 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1232 | Ms. Hokel. | 霍克尔女士 |
| 1233 | We have passed one of the strongest laws in the nation called the RAISE Act to deal with | 我们通过了全国最强的法律之一 叫做RAISE法案 |
| 1234 | critical incidences that could occur because of AI going unfettered or out of control. | 由于AI不受约束或失控而可能发生的严重事件。 |
| 1235 | So we are nation-leading once again. | 因此,我们再次领导国家。 |
| 1236 | I'm proud of that. | 我为此感到骄傲。 |
| 1237 | But this technology is evolving so quickly | 但是这种技术发展得这么快 |
| 1238 | that we have to be laser-focused, which is why I set up an entire office and hired the best in the | 我们必须以激光为焦点, 这就是为什么我建立一个整个办公室 并雇用最好的在 |
| 1239 | nation to staff this to make sure that we manage this the best way we can. | 国家将为此配备人员,以确保我们以最佳方式管理此事。 |
| 1240 | But there have to be | 但必须有 |
| 1241 | consequences. | 后果。 |
| 1242 | That's why those companies are on notice. | 这就是为什么那些公司被通知。 |
| 1243 | You operate in New York State. | 你在纽约州做手术 |
| 1244 | We have | 我们有 |
| 1245 | laws to protect our children and our residents. | 保护我们的儿童和居民的法律。 |
| 1246 | So would you, are you going to raise income taxes, | 你也会提高所得税吗? |
| 1247 | Governor Hokel? | 霍克尔州长? |
| 1248 | No. | 没有 |
| 1249 | Bruce Blakeman. | 布鲁斯・布莱克曼。 |
| 1250 | I'm going to cut income taxes. | 我要削减所得税 |
| 1251 | Our state budget is twice the size of the state of Florida, | 我们的预算是佛罗里达州的两倍 |
| 1252 | and there's four million more people in Florida. | 佛罗里达还有四百万人 |
| 1253 | Yes or no, or short question. | 是或否,或简短的问题。 |
| 1254 | That's because of the fraud, waste, and abuse under the Hokel administration. | 这是因为霍克尔执政时期的欺诈,浪费,滥用行为. |
| 1255 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 1256 | I will cut your taxes. | 我会减少你的税。 |
| 1257 | I've cut middle-class tax rates to the lowest it's been in 70 years. | 我将中产阶级税率削减到70年来的最低水平. |
| 1258 | They've gone up $8 billion. | 他们已经增加了80亿美元。 |
| 1259 | I've cut the | 我剪断了 |
| 1260 | middle-class tax rates to the lowest it's been in 70 years. | 中产阶级的税率是70年来最低的 |
| 1261 | Mr. Blakeman. | 布莱克曼先生 |
| 1262 | I've gone up $8 billion since you've been governor. | 你当州长后,我涨了80亿 |
| 1263 | Mr. Blakeman, New York 1 is confirmed. | 布莱克曼先生,纽约一号确认 |
| 1264 | Go to my social media. | 去我的社交媒体。 |
| 1265 | I have the facts and the documents to back that up. | 我有事实和文件可以证明这一点。 |
| 1266 | Mayor Mamdani and the city council, Mr. Blakeman have reached a deal to ban New York City's horse | Mamdani市长和市议会 Blakeman先生达成协议 禁止纽约市的马 |
| 1267 | carriage industry after a series of safety incidents. | 发生一系列安全事故后,马车工业也出现了. |
| 1268 | Is that the right move? | 这样做对吗? |
| 1269 | Well, you know, I'm nostalgic for the horse-drawn carriages in New York, but I understand the | 嗯,你知道,我很怀念 在纽约的马车,但我理解 |
| 1270 | issues and we have to protect animal rights here in our state. | 我们必须保护动物权利 |
| 1271 | I'm a big supporter of that. | 我是一个伟大的支持者。 |
| 1272 | I've | 我见过 |
| 1273 | enacted laws for animal rights, but at the same time, we also have to think of the consequences | 已经颁布了动物权利法,但与此同时,我们也必须考虑后果。 |
| 1274 | of the people who may lose their jobs. | 那些可能失业的人。 |
| 1275 | Yes or no? | 是还是不是? |
| 1276 | Did you? | 是吗? |
| 1277 | I will look into it. | 我会调查的 |
| 1278 | It just happened today, | 今天刚发生的事 |
| 1279 | but I'll look into it. | 但我会调查的 |
| 1280 | But I think we have to have a balanced approach to it. | 但我认为我们必须对此采取平衡的做法。 |
| 1281 | Ms. Hokel. | 霍克尔女士 |
| 1282 | You better let John Samuelson know your | 你最好让约翰·塞缪尔森知道 |
| 1283 | position. | 立场。 |
| 1284 | Ms. Hokel. | 霍克尔女士 |
| 1285 | And I support what they did. | 我支持他们的所作所为。 |
| 1286 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1287 | All right, candidates. | 好吧,候选人。 |
| 1288 | Thanks very much. | 非常感谢 |
| 1289 | That's going to do it for tonight's debate. | 今晚的辩论会就是这样 |
| 1290 | I'd like to thank both candidates for joining | 感谢两位候选人加入 |
| 1291 | us tonight and to all of you at home for watching. | 我们今晚和大家在家里观看。 |
| 1292 | We'd also like to thank the New | 我们也要感谢新人 |
| 1293 | York State Public Campaign Finance Board for helping ensure that this debate happened. | 约克州公共运动财政委员会帮助确保这场辩论得以举行。 |
| 1294 | If you missed any part of tonight's broadcast or any of our previous debates for State Attorney | 如果你错过了今晚的广播 或我们以前为州检察官进行的辩论 |
| 1295 | General or State Controller, you can see them in their entirety on our website and on our YouTube | 将军或国家主计长,可以在我们的网站上和我们的YouTube上看到它们的全部内容 |
| 1296 | channel. | 频道. |
| 1297 | And remember, Election Day is three weeks from today. | 记住,选举日是三个星期后 |
| 1298 | For the results that night, | 为了那晚的结果 |
| 1299 | we're going to bring you statewide coverage all night long. | 我们会给你带来全州报道 一整夜。 |
| 1300 | And early voting is set to begin | 提前投票开始 |
| 1301 | across New York on Saturday, October 24th. | 10月24日星期六穿过纽约 |
| 1302 | On behalf of Spectrum News, thank you so much | 代表Spectrum新闻,非常感谢你 |
| 1303 | for watching and have a good night. | 观看和有一个美好的夜晚。 |
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