提利斯参议员在监督听证会的质询环节中呼吁诺姆辞职 | 202
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:02 | Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Secretary Noem, thank you for being here. | 主席先生,谢谢你,诺姆国务卿,谢谢你来到这里。 |
| 0:07 | I'm really glad that a lot of my Republican colleagues talked about the disaster that | 我很高兴我很多共和党同事 都谈到了这场灾难 |
| 0:12 | Biden and Mallorca, as your predecessor, created. | 拜登和马略卡,作为你的前任,创造了. |
| 0:15 | It was absurd. | 这是荒谬的。 |
| 0:17 | You heard the things from Senator Brett, people that came over here who themselves were traumatized | 你从布莱特参议员那里听到的 那些来这里的人 他们自己受到创伤 |
| 0:22 | by the very people who then come to this country and traumatize American citizens. | 被那些来到这个国家 给美国公民带来创伤的人所伤害 |
| 0:27 | You heard Senator Schmidt saying the same thing. | 你听到施密特参议员也这么说 |
| 0:31 | I think a lot of us are very frustrated with the disaster that President Biden left behind | 我认为很多人对拜登总统留下的灾难感到非常沮丧 |
| 0:36 | and a failed DHS. | 和失败的DHS。 |
| 0:39 | It's why I'm angry and it's why I've been critical of you, Secretary Noem, because we're | 这就是为什么我生气 这就是为什么我一直批评你,诺姆国务卿,因为我们 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Thank you, Mr. Chairman, Secretary Noem, thank you for being here. | 主席先生,谢谢你,诺姆国务卿,谢谢你来到这里。 |
| 2 | I'm really glad that a lot of my Republican colleagues talked about the disaster that | 我很高兴我很多共和党同事 都谈到了这场灾难 |
| 3 | Biden and Mallorca, as your predecessor, created. | 拜登和马略卡,作为你的前任,创造了. |
| 4 | It was absurd. | 这是荒谬的。 |
| 5 | You heard the things from Senator Brett, people that came over here who themselves were traumatized | 你从布莱特参议员那里听到的 那些来这里的人 他们自己受到创伤 |
| 6 | by the very people who then come to this country and traumatize American citizens. | 被那些来到这个国家 给美国公民带来创伤的人所伤害 |
| 7 | You heard Senator Schmidt saying the same thing. | 你听到施密特参议员也这么说 |
| 8 | I think a lot of us are very frustrated with the disaster that President Biden left behind | 我认为很多人对拜登总统留下的灾难感到非常沮丧 |
| 9 | and a failed DHS. | 和失败的DHS。 |
| 10 | It's why I'm angry and it's why I've been critical of you, Secretary Noem, because we're | 这就是为什么我生气 这就是为什么我一直批评你,诺姆国务卿,因为我们 |
| 11 | missing an opportunity. | 错过机会。 |
| 12 | Ladies and gentlemen, one of the reasons President Trump won a year and a half ago is because | 女士们先生们 川普总统一年半前获胜的原因之一是 |
| 13 | people were sick and tired of a Democratic administration's open border policy and allowing | 人们厌倦了民主政府的开放边境政策,并允许 |
| 14 | millions of people to come to this country, 1.7 million called gotaways. | 数百万人来到这个国家, 170万叫逃走。 |
| 15 | We don't even know where they are, but we know when you pay a premium to a cartel to | 我们甚至不知道他们在哪里, 但我们知道,当你支付 溢价卡特尔 |
| 16 | get them into this country, they're bad people. | 让他们进入这个国家,他们是坏人。 |
| 17 | Now why have I been critical of Secretary Noem? | 为什么我一直批评诺姆国务卿? |
| 18 | Because I don't think we're focusing on, we have limited resources. | 因为我认为我们没有集中精力, 我们资源有限。 |
| 19 | ICE can't be everywhere at once. | ICE不可能一时无所不在. |
| 20 | There's very few people in Capitol Hill that support law enforcement more than me, including | 国会山很少有人比我更支持执法 |
| 21 | the sworn ICE officers. | 宣誓就职的ICE警官 |
| 22 | In fact, I've just been told fortunately in about a week and a half, we're going to get | 事实上,我刚刚得知幸运的 大约一周半后,我们将得到 |
| 23 | a plaque on the wall over the Capitol thanking the Capitol police officers and all the agencies | 都城墙上的牌匾 感谢都城警察和所有机构 |
| 24 | that responded on January 6th. | 于1月6日回应. |
| 25 | All those thugs have actually been pardoned and yet we haven't thanked the Capitol police | 所有那些暴徒都被赦免了 但我们还没感谢国会警察 |
| 26 | officers for their work here. | 军官在这里的工作。 |
| 27 | So when I say I'm unapologetically pro-law enforcement, you can count in every single | 所以当我说我是不可理喻的 支持执法, 你可以数每一个 |
| 28 | sworn officer in Homeland Security. | 国土安全部的宣誓军官 |
| 29 | So why am I disappointed with Secretary Noem? | 我为什么对诺姆国务卿失望? |
| 30 | Because we're not going after enough people who did this damage at the expense of running | 因为我们没有足够多的人 谁做了这个损害 牺牲运行 |
| 31 | numbers that Stephen Miller wants out of the White House. | 史蒂芬·米勒想离开白宫的数字 |
| 32 | We just want numbers. | 我们只要数字 |
| 33 | We want 1,000 a day, 6,000 a day, 9,000 a day, because numbers matter, right? | 我们要每天1000,每天6000,每天9000, 因为数字很重要,对不对? |
| 34 | No, they don't matter. | 不,他们并不重要。 |
| 35 | Quality matters. | 质量问题。 |
| 36 | Not quantity, quality. | 不是数量,质量。 |
| 37 | And what we've seen is a disaster. | 而所见为灾. |
| 38 | Under your leadership, Ms. Noem, a disaster. | 在你的领导下,诺姆女士,一场灾难。 |
| 39 | What we've seen is innocent people getting detained that turn out are American citizens. | 我们所看到的是无辜的人被拘留 结果却是美国公民 |
| 40 | I could talk about the culture that's been created here with Stephen Miller aiding and abetting. | 我可以说说Stephen Miller协助和教唆 所创造的文化 |
| 41 | I heard first reports that he was the one that said it was a domestic terrorist situation | 我第一次听说是他说这是国内的恐怖情况 |
| 42 | where two people lost their lives in Minneapolis. | 两人在明尼阿波利斯丧生 |
| 43 | I've heard that report. | 我听说过那个报告。 |
| 44 | Maybe you can refute it. | 也许你可以反驳它。 |
| 45 | I don't know that we'll have time for you to respond because I'm giving you a performance | 我不知道我们会有时间让你回应 因为我在给你表演 |
| 46 | evaluation here. | 这里的评价。 |
| 47 | I'm not looking for a response. | 我不是在寻找一个回应。 |
| 48 | And I'm saying, Ms. Noem, that time after time after time I've been disappointed. | 我是说,诺姆女士,我一直很失望 |
| 49 | But before I get back to looking at the vicious people that did this damage to these families, | 但在我回到那些 对这些家庭造成这种伤害的恶人之前 |
| 50 | 我想谈谈FEMA | |
| 51 | You have a policy right now that anything over $100,000 has to go through your desk | 你现在有一条政策 超过10万元的都要经过你的办公桌 |
| 52 | for approval. | 供核准。 |
| 53 | I ask my staff, because I'm a management consultant, I don't try to do cheap shots in here, but | 我问我的工作人员, 因为我是管理顾问, 我不尝试在这里做廉价镜头, |
| 54 | the facts do not lie. | 事实并非如此。 |
| 55 | This is your administration for FEMA response. | 这是你对FEMA的回应 |
| 56 | This is President Trump's first administration. | 这是川普总统的第一个政府. |
| 57 | Which one would you like to have? | 你想吃哪个? |
| 58 | If you're a state that has a $60 billion disaster, your biggest disaster in South Dakota that | 如果你是一个州 有600亿美元的灾难, 你最大的灾难 在南达科他州 |
| 59 | I can tell that when you were an elected official was about a half a billion dollars. | 我看得出来,当你当选官员时, 大约是5亿美元。 |
| 60 | So one one hundredth of this single storm where thousands of people are hurting in North | 因此,这场风暴的一百分之一 在北方有数千人受伤 |
| 61 | Carolina, and you're just barely catching up. | 卡罗莱纳,你只是勉强赶上。 |
| 62 | This is what competent FEMA leadership looks like. | 这就是联邦紧急事务管理局的领导层的长相。 |
| 63 | This is what incompetent FEMA leadership looks like. | 这就是无能的FEMA领导者的样子. |
| 64 | And people are hurting in Western North Carolina from the most significant storm they've ever | 北卡罗来纳州西部的人 受到有史以来最强烈的风暴的伤害 |
| 65 | experienced. | 经验丰富。 |
| 66 | This is what we need more of. | 这是我们需要的更多。 |
| 67 | I'm convinced you can't do it. | 我确信你办不到 |
| 68 | If you're requesting a review of $100,000 and up, then it begs the question, why? | 如果你要求审查10万元和10万元以上,那它就会问,为什么? |
| 69 | Why would you be involved in that? | 你为什么卷入其中? |
| 70 | Why would that be a policy? | 为什么这是个政策? |
| 71 | And in a minute, I'll ask you about some people that are involved, some special government | 一分钟后,我会问你一些 涉及的人, 一些特别的政府 |
| 72 | employees. | 雇员。 |
| 73 | Why are they involved in it? | 为什么他们参与其中? |
| 74 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 75 | No. | 没有 |
| 76 | That one hundredth. | 那一百个 |
| 77 | You can finish. | 你可以结束。 |
| 78 | That one hundred thousand dollars only had to do. | 那十万块就够了 |
| 79 | I will hold the clock until I finish. | 我会守住时间直到我完成。 |
| 80 | The bottom line is I've done the analysis and you can say whatever you want to. | 底线是我做了分析 你可以随便说什么 |
| 81 | I've worked with a Democrat governor. | 我和民主党州长一起工作过 |
| 82 | I've worked with a Republican governor. | 我和一位共和党州长合作过 |
| 83 | I've worked with fiscal research. | 曾从事财政研究. |
| 84 | We have people contacting my office now to get the information to to better understand | 现在有人联系我办公室 了解情况 |
| 85 | the failure of this department. | 这个部门的失败 |
| 86 | You've failed at FEMA. | 你在FEMA失败了. |
| 87 | And in fact, if I get to it, actually, why don't I cover this right now? | 而且事实上,如果我得到它, 实际上,为什么不我 覆盖这个现在? |
| 88 | The Homeland Security Act of 2002 expressly prohibits the Secretary of Homeland Security | 2002年《国土安全法》明确禁止国土安全部长 |
| 89 | from restricting or diverting FEMA resources from the agency's mission. | 禁止限制或挪用联邦紧急事务管理局的资源。 |
| 90 | Based on your disaster response, the chart that I just showed you, I reasonably believe | 根据你对灾难的反应 我刚刚给你看的图表 我有理由相信 |
| 91 | that you're violating the law either knowingly or unknowingly. | 明知故犯的违法事实 |
| 92 | So I'll be asking and getting a submission to the record submitting a question for the | 所以我会问和得到一个呈文 记录提交一个问题 |
| 93 | record what the total amount of FEMA reimbursements are currently being held by DHS awaiting for | 记录国土安全部目前持有的FEMA偿还总额。 |
| 94 | final approval held by DHS awaiting for final approval for an agency that you should not | DHS持有的等待最后批准的机构的最后批准 |
| 95 | be obstructing the disbursement on. | 妨碍支付 |
| 96 | I'm going to give you time to answer to it under penalty of perjury so that we can get | 我会让你有时间在作伪证的惩罚下 回答这个问题 这样我们就能得到 |
| 97 | it right. | 这是正确的。 |
| 98 | Now going back to Minneapolis. | 现在回明尼阿波利斯 |
| 99 | Why can't we just say we made a mistake? | 为什么我们不能说我们犯了错误? |
| 100 | I will ask you one question if you can just give me a quick response. | 我问你一个问题 如果你能给我一个快速的答复 |
| 101 | Who does Tom Hallman work for? | 汤姆·霍尔曼为谁工作? |
| 102 | You or the president? | 你还是总统? |
| 103 | The president. | 总统 |
| 104 | OK. | 摆 |
| 105 | Why is that? | 为什么? |
| 106 | Because I believe the president recognized that you weren't getting it done in Minneapolis | 因为我相信总统承认 你无法在明尼阿波利斯完成 |
| 107 | and you're putting us further away from pointing to this. | 你让我们更远离 指向这一点。 |
| 108 | We're beginning to get the American people to think that deporting people is wrong. | 我们开始让美国人民认为驱逐是错的. |
| 109 | It's the exact opposite. | 则正相反. |
| 110 | The way you're going about deporting them is wrong. | 你驱逐他们的方式是错误的。 |
| 111 | The fact that you can't admit to a mistake which looks like under investigation is going | 你无法承认被调查的错误 |
| 112 | to prove that Miss Goode and Mr. | 证明古德先生和古德小姐 |
| 113 | Pretty probably should not have been shot in the face and | 可能不该被击中脸部 |
| 114 | in the back. | 后面那个 |
| 115 | Law enforcement needs to learn from that. | 执法部门需要从中吸取教训。 |
| 116 | You don't protect them by not looking after the facts. | 你不关心事实就保护不了他们 |
| 117 | Not only should the FBI be investigating it but every single law enforcement agency in | 联邦调查局不仅应该调查它 而且应该调查每个执法机构 |
| 118 | that jurisdiction should be invited to it. | 应邀请司法管辖区参加。 |
| 119 | So our law enforcement officers do not have this poll cast upon them. | 所以,我们的执法人员没有 投票给他们。 |
| 120 | One of the reasons why ICE officers are having threats and damn the people that threaten | ICE官员有威胁的原因之一 并诅咒那些威胁的人 |
| 121 | ICE officers because so many of them are doing a good job is because you've cast a poll on | ICE官员,因为很多 他们正在做一个好的工作 因为你投了民调 |
| 122 | them by acting like we should investigate things differently. | 他们的行为就像我们应该 调查不同的事情。 |
| 123 | Officer-involved shootings have a formula that we should go through every time and we're | 警官参与的枪击案有一个公式 我们每次都该经历 |
| 124 | not going through that formula. | 不经过这个公式。 |
| 125 | As a matter of fact, in Miss Goode's case, I think that they were even saying that maybe | 事实上 在古德小姐的案子里 我想他们甚至说 |
| 126 | there wasn't even a need to do it in the DOJ. | 司法部根本不需要这么做 |
| 127 | I hope that that's changed. | 我希望这已经改变。 |
| 128 | But I'm telling you, it was the Civil Rights Review. | 但我告诉你 这是民权审查 |
| 129 | I saw your frown. | 我看见你的皱眉了 |
| 130 | You can correct me if I'm wrong. | 如果我错了 你可以纠正我 |
| 131 | But originally Blanche said there wouldn't be an investigation. | 但最初布兰奇说不会进行调查. |
| 132 | Folks, law enforcement, we've got to have their back. | 朋友们,执法部门,我们得支持他们 |
| 133 | We've got to make it clear when they make a mistake that they get corrected for it. | 我们一定要说清楚 当他们犯错,他们得到纠正。 |
| 134 | But you don't walk away from it and you've done it too many times. | 但你不会离开它 而且你做了太多次。 |
| 135 | Now, Secretary, I read your book last week and honestly some of the parts of it impressed | 现在,秘书,我上周读过你的书 老实说,其中的一些部分给人留下了深刻印象 |
| 136 | me but some of it distresses me. | 但我有些烦恼 |
| 137 | And I'll give you a good example of one that does. | 我给你们一个很好的例子。 |
| 138 | The passage where you talk about killing a dog that was 14 months old. | 你谈论杀死一只14个月大的狗的通道 |
| 139 | I trained dogs, all right? | 我训练狗,好吗? |
| 140 | And you are a farmer. | 而你是一个农民。 |
| 141 | You should know better. | 你应该更清楚 |
| 142 | You should know that if you're going out to a hunting lodge and you're putting pheasants | 你应该知道,如果你出去 狩猎小屋,你放野鸡 |
| 143 | out and you're putting dogs out, you don't take a puppy out there. | 出去放狗,不要带小狗出去 |
| 144 | A 14-month-old dog is basically a teenager in dog years. | 一只14个月的狗基本上是狗年的少年. |
| 145 | You decided to kill that dog because you had not invested the appropriate time in training | 你决定杀了那只狗 因为你没有花适当时间训练 |
| 146 | and then you have the audacity to go into a book and say it's a leadership lesson about | 然后你有胆量去读一本书 说这是领导才能的教训 |
| 147 | tough choices. | 艰难的选择。 |
| 148 | It's in your book. | 在你的书里 |
| 149 | We could play it if we had time. | 我们可以玩它,如果我们有时间。 |
| 150 | At that same lunch hour, you killed a goat. | 在那个午餐时间 你杀了一只山羊 |
| 151 | And you killed the goat because you said it was behaving badly. | 你杀了那只山羊 因为你说它行为不好 |
| 152 | You are a farmer. | 你是个农民。 |
| 153 | You don't castrate a goat. | 你不阉羊。 |
| 154 | But they behave badly. | 但他们的行为很糟 |
| 155 | You should have probably done that before. | 你该早点去的 |
| 156 | But my point is, those are bad decisions made in the heat of the moment. | 但是,我想说的是,这些是在瞬间作出的坏决定。 |
| 157 | Not unlike what happened up in Minneapolis. | 和明尼阿波利斯发生的事不一样 |
| 158 | I expect we're an exceptional nation. | 我想我们是一个非凡的国家。 |
| 159 | And one of the reasons we're exceptional is we expect exceptional leadership. | 其中一个原因,就是我们期待卓越的领导。 |
| 160 | And you've demonstrated anything but that in the time that I've seen you responding | 除了我看见你回应的时候 你什么都表现出来了 |
| 161 | in North Carolina and across the southeast and acknowledging when mistakes are made and | 在北卡罗莱纳州和东南地区 承认犯过错误 |
| 162 | speaking too soon for the expedient of social media or whatever it is. | 社会媒体的权宜之计, |
| 163 | I'll leave you with this, Ms. Noem. | 我把这个留给你 诺姆女士 |
| 164 | I'm expecting answers to Charlotte's Web. | 我在等夏洛特网络的答案 |
| 165 | I requested it a month ago. | 我一个月前就要求的 |
| 166 | That was one of the investigations in Charlotte, 20 minutes from where I live. | 那是夏洛特的调查之一 离我住的地方还有20分钟 |
| 167 | All I asked for, if it had to be anonymized, was information so that I could determine | 我所要求的,如果它必须是匿名的, 是信息,这样我就可以确定 |
| 168 | if your hit rate is right. | 如果你的命中率是正确的。 |
| 169 | I want to find more of those people and I want to detain fewer of the others. | 我想找到更多的人 并拘留更少的其他人。 |
| 170 | And Mr. | 还有先生 |
| 171 | Chair, in my remaining time, I have a lot to go. | 主席 在我剩下的时间里 我还有很多工作要做 |
| 172 | But I want to submit this letter from the Office of Inspector General that cites ten | 但我想提交这份监察主任办公室的信 信中提到10个 |
| 173 | different instances under Ms. Noem's leadership where they've been misled and not allowed | 在诺埃姆女士的领导下发生的不同事件,他们被误导了,不允许 |
| 174 | to pursue investigations that they think are critically important. | 他们认为调查至关重要 |
| 175 | Does anybody have any idea how bad it has to be for the OIG in this agency to come out | 有没有人知道这个机构的OIG出来有多糟? |
| 176 | and do this publicly? | 并公开这样做? |
| 177 | That is stonewalling. | 这是石头墙。 |
| 178 | That's a failure of leadership and that is why I've called for your resignation. | 这是领导失误,也是我要求你辞职的原因. |
| 179 | And if I don't get an answer to these questions, I don't want an applause. | 如果我得不到这些问题的答案,我不想要掌声. |
| 180 | Please don't do that for me. | 请不要为我这样做。 |
| 181 | If I don't get an answer to these questions, if I don't get an answer that you've had a | 如果我没有得到这些问题的答案 如果我没有得到一个答案 你有一个 |
| 182 | month to respond to and the remaining ones, as of today, I'll be informing leadership | 一个月后回复,其余的, 从今天起,我将通知领导 |
| 183 | that I'm putting a hold on any on-block nominations until I get a response. | 在得到答复之前 我会暂停提名 |
| 184 | And in two weeks, if I don't get a response, I'm going to deny quorum and markup in as | 两周后,如果我没有得到答复, 我会拒绝法定人数和加价 |
| 185 | many committees as I can until I get a response. | 在得到答复之前 尽量多的委员会 |
| 186 | Thank you, Mr. | 谢谢,先生。 |
| 187 | Chair. | 师曰. |
| 188 | Tingo! | 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 丁戈 |
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