民主社会主义崛起背后及其对美国政治的影响 | 2026.6.
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| 0:01 | This morning we're taking a deeper dive into what appears to be rising support for democratic socialism in this country that includes | 今天上午,我们更深入地深入到 似乎越来越多的支持 民主社会主义 在这个国家,包括 |
| 0:08 | The election of politicians like New York City mayor Zoran Mamdani who won office convincingly after running on a Democratic Socialist Platform | 纽约市市长Zoran Mamdani在竞选民主社会主义纲领后, |
| 0:16 | Mamdani endorsed three candidates in congressional primaries here in New York City and this week all three won | Mamdani在纽约市的国会初选中 认可了三名候选人 这周所有三名候选人都赢了 |
| 0:22 | So if you are wondering exactly what the Democratic Socialist Platform is are at O'Keefe has some answers | 如果你想知道奥基夫的民主社会主义纲领是什么 有一些答案 |
| 0:29 | We are showing there is a new path for politics in our city and in our country with his allies primary wins Tuesday | 我们展示的是,在我们城市和我们国家,有一条新的政治道路,他的盟友周二主要获胜。 |
| 0:36 | New York City mayor Zoan Mamdani said a new path is being paved by Democratic Socialism | 纽约市市长Zoan Mamdani说,民主社会主义正在开辟一条新的道路。 |
| 0:42 | It's nothing new but it's more recent revival is often linked to Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders | 这没什么新奇的 但最近的复兴 经常与佛蒙特州参议员伯尼·桑德斯有关 |
| 0:47 | Who framed it this way when he first ran for president? | 当他第一次竞选总统时,是谁这样陷害他的? |
| 0:51 | Democratic Socialism means that we must reform a | 民主社会主义意味着我们必须改革 |
| 0:57 | Political system which is corrupt | 腐败的政治制度 |
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| 1 | This morning we're taking a deeper dive into what appears to be rising support for democratic socialism in this country that includes | 今天上午,我们更深入地深入到 似乎越来越多的支持 民主社会主义 在这个国家,包括 |
| 2 | The election of politicians like New York City mayor Zoran Mamdani who won office convincingly after running on a Democratic Socialist Platform | 纽约市市长Zoran Mamdani在竞选民主社会主义纲领后, |
| 3 | Mamdani endorsed three candidates in congressional primaries here in New York City and this week all three won | Mamdani在纽约市的国会初选中 认可了三名候选人 这周所有三名候选人都赢了 |
| 4 | So if you are wondering exactly what the Democratic Socialist Platform is are at O'Keefe has some answers | 如果你想知道奥基夫的民主社会主义纲领是什么 有一些答案 |
| 5 | We are showing there is a new path for politics in our city and in our country with his allies primary wins Tuesday | 我们展示的是,在我们城市和我们国家,有一条新的政治道路,他的盟友周二主要获胜。 |
| 6 | New York City mayor Zoan Mamdani said a new path is being paved by Democratic Socialism | 纽约市市长Zoan Mamdani说,民主社会主义正在开辟一条新的道路。 |
| 7 | It's nothing new but it's more recent revival is often linked to Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders | 这没什么新奇的 但最近的复兴 经常与佛蒙特州参议员伯尼·桑德斯有关 |
| 8 | Who framed it this way when he first ran for president? | 当他第一次竞选总统时,是谁这样陷害他的? |
| 9 | Democratic Socialism means that we must reform a | 民主社会主义意味着我们必须改革 |
| 10 | Political system which is corrupt | 腐败的政治制度 |
| 11 | That we must create an economy that works for all | 我们必须创造一个有利于所有人的经济 |
| 12 | Not just the very wealthy in New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez calls herself a Democratic Socialist | 不只是纽约的有钱人 亚历山德里亚·奥卡西奥-科尔特斯 自称民主社会主义者 |
| 13 | So do two of the congressional candidates Mamdani supported Claire Valdez and Daria Lisa Avila Chevalier | 两位国会候选人 Mamdani 也支持克莱尔·瓦尔泽 和达里亚·丽莎·阿维拉·谢瓦利埃 |
| 14 | There's also Janice Lewis George the likely next mayor of Washington DC and | 还有珍妮丝・刘易斯・乔治 华盛顿的下一位市长 |
| 15 | 洛杉矶市议员Nithya Raman 跑到没有席位的民主党市长Karen Bass | |
| 16 | Other Democratic Socialist congressional or gubernatorial candidates are on the ballot this year in Colorado, Michigan and Wisconsin | 今年科罗拉多州、密歇根州和威斯康辛州的其他民主社会主义议会候选人或州长候选人正在投票中。 |
| 17 | They broadly support universal health care and greater housing affordability | 它们普遍支持全民保健和提高住房负担能力。 |
| 18 | We have to have a more affordable city and people are going to stay here less restrictive immigration controls | 我们必须有一个更廉价的城市 人们会呆在这里 减少限制性的移民管制 |
| 19 | I will lead the fight against ISIS cruelty more environmental protections | 我将领导打击伊斯兰国残酷的环境保护 |
| 20 | reduced US military budgets and | 裁减美国的军事预算 |
| 21 | Support ending military and economic aid to Israel that we pay to care for our people instead of the flattening of | 支持停止向以色列提供军事和经济援助,我们支付这笔钱是为了照顾我们的人民,而不是平息 |
| 22 | Palestinians and oppressed people abroad for CBS mornings. | 巴勒斯坦人和被压迫者在国外 为CBS早上。 |
| 23 | I'm at O'Keefe | 我在奥基夫 |
| 24 | Alright, so let's continue the discussion for more on this. | 好吧,让我们继续讨论这个问题。 |
| 25 | We're joined by right-hand Salam | 右手萨拉姆来了 |
| 26 | He's president of the Manhattan Institute. | 他是曼哈顿研究院的院长. |
| 27 | That is a center-right urban policy think tank | 这是一个中右翼的城市政策智库 |
| 28 | He's also a contributor to the free press and a lifelong New Yorker. | 他也是自由报业的贡献者和毕生的纽约人. |
| 29 | Good morning. | 早上好,你好吗? |
| 30 | Good to see you | 很高兴见到你 |
| 31 | So we just heard from prominent Democratic Socialists about the issues that they care about | 我们刚从著名民主社会主义者那里听说 他们关心的问题 |
| 32 | Generally those issues are around stronger tenant protections more publicly built housing higher taxes on top earners | 一般而言,这些问题是围绕更强有力的房客保护,更公开建造住房,提高高收入者的税收。 |
| 33 | expanded child care | 扩大儿童保育 |
| 34 | Expanded public transportation. | 扩大公共交通. |
| 35 | Why do you think that the DSA platform keeps resonating? | 为何认为DSA平台持续反响?. |
| 36 | I mean Bernie Sanders got millions of votes when he was running for president | 我是说伯尼·桑德斯竞选总统时 赢得了数百万票 |
| 37 | Well, look the really important thing that happened in New York City is that every? | 看,纽约市发生的真正重要的事 就是每一件事? |
| 38 | Establishment Democrat who was defeated agreed on the substance of those issues | 被击败的民主党就这些问题的实质达成一致 |
| 39 | There was something very different going on, which is that the party itself is very institutionally weak | 发生了非常不同的事情, 党本身在体制上非常薄弱 |
| 40 | It's hollowed out and now you have a movement with a ton of youth a ton of energy that is using that discipline that | 它已经空洞了,现在你有一个运动 与一吨的青春 一吨的能量 |
| 41 | Organizational prowess to bring candidates who have those views but also much more breathtakingly | 组织能力使那些有这些观点但更令人惊叹的候选人 |
| 42 | Extreme views and bringing them to the fore like what like what breathtaking? | 极端的视线,并把它们摆在面前 像什么样令人惊叹? |
| 43 | Well, for example, if you're if you're looking at foreign policy | 比如说,如果你在看外交政策 |
| 44 | These are folks who believe in the abolition of borders | 这些人相信废除边界 |
| 45 | They believe in prison abolition when you're pressing these candidates | 当你逼迫这些候选人时 他们相信废除监狱 |
| 46 | For example, Daria Lisa Avila Chevalier when you really press her on these issues | 例如,达里亚·丽莎·阿维拉 当你在这些问题上逼她的时候,更便宜 |
| 47 | She said that hey, I said a lot of radical things back in 2020 | 她说,嘿嘿,我说了很多激进的事情 在2020年 |
| 48 | But I talk about things differently now, but when pressed by local journalists | 但我现在谈论的事情不同, 但当受到当地记者的压力 |
| 49 | Do you believe that anyone ought to go to prison? | 你相信有人应该进监狱吗? |
| 50 | Is there anyone at all who should be deported? | 有没有人应该被驱逐出境? |
| 51 | This is someone who is very forthright and saying no. | 这个人很直率地说不 |
| 52 | I really take a firm stance | 我真的立场坚定 |
| 53 | Against borders. | 对抗边境。 |
| 54 | I take a firm stance against what she sees as US imperialism and against our allies | 我对美帝国主义 和我们的盟友采取坚定的立场 |
| 55 | She took us firm stance against backing Ukraine in its struggle for survival against Russia | 她采取坚定立场,反对支持乌克兰反抗俄罗斯的生存斗争. |
| 56 | That is a very different view for most mainstream Democrats | 对于大多数主流民主党人来说,这是一个非常不同的观点 |
| 57 | Let's concentrate on the election that just happened | 让我们集中到刚刚发生的选举上 |
| 58 | Because how big is the movement when when you talk about the turnout how big was the turnout? | 因为当你谈论投票率时,运动有多大? 投票率有多大? |
| 59 | Tell us understand how big this movement is for this last election | 告诉我们这个运动对上次选举有多重要 |
| 60 | It's so important to understand if you're looking at these congressional districts, for example the district in Upper Manhattan and the Bronx | 了解这些国会选区,例如曼哈顿上区和布朗克斯 |
| 61 | This is a district that has five hundred thousand registered voters | 这个区有50万登记选民 |
| 62 | How many people voted only 70,000 folks voted in this election? | 有多少人投票 只有7万人参加这次选举? |
| 63 | That will essentially determine who goes to Congress and of those 70,000 | 这基本上决定了谁去国会 和这7万 |
| 64 | So is that a movement, Ryan, if you have that many people and only that small amount voted, is that a movement? | 瑞安,如果你有这么多人 只有这么小一部分人投了票 那是个运动吗? |
| 65 | Well, here's the thing if you have a small | 好吧,这是一件事 如果你有一个小 |
| 66 | Disciplined organized minority that really knows what it wants and is able to apply that energy and those resources | 有纪律的有组织少数群体,真正知道自己想要什么,能够运用这种能量和这些资源 |
| 67 | That small organized minority can seize the larger brand and that's what we're seeing here | 那个小的有组织少数人可以抓住更大的品牌 这就是我们在这里看到的 |
| 68 | Ryan, there seems to be some tension in the Democratic Party | 瑞安,民主党好像有点紧张 |
| 69 | Mainstream Democrats want to be more moderate and then there is this leftward shift that is | 主流民主党人希望更加温和 接下来是左倾的转变 |
| 70 | Galvanizing young people and creating this kind of organization that you're saying we haven't seen in a long time | 壮大年轻人 创建这种组织 你说我们很久没见到了 |
| 71 | So what happens with this tension? | 那么这种紧张会怎样呢? |
| 72 | It's really challenging. | 这真的有挑战性。 |
| 73 | I think part of this is that we have such a polarized national climate | 我认为其中的一部分是 我们的气候如此两极分化 |
| 74 | You know, it's no secret that President Trump is not very popular right now | 川普总统现在不怎么受欢迎,这不是秘密 |
| 75 | And there are a lot of Democrats who don't share the DSA's views but who feel as though the Democratic Party is too weak | 有很多民主党人不认同DSA的观点 但觉得民主党太软弱 |
| 76 | They're not fighting enough. | 他们战斗不够 |
| 77 | So to some extent it's almost like Trump voters who felt that hey | 因此,在某种程度上,它几乎就像川普选民 谁觉得嘿嘿。 |
| 78 | I don't agree with him on every issue | 我不同意他每件事 |
| 79 | But he's showing energy and strength and vitality what the DSA is doing right now in its militancy | 但是他表现出了能量和力量 和活力 DSA正在做着它现在的战斗 |
| 80 | They're showing strength and vitality and that's capturing a lot of that resistance energy | 他们表现出力量和活力, 并捕捉了很多抵抗能量 |
| 81 | Which is why some DSA candidates or some candidates aligned with him are doing well in suburbs | 因此,一些每日生活津贴候选人或一些与他结盟的候选人在郊区表现良好。 |
| 82 | Not just in deep blue urban neighborhoods in those primaries. | 不只是在那些初选的蓝色城市里 |
| 83 | The rhetoric around socialism | 围绕社会主义的言论 |
| 84 | Tends to sometimes scare a lot of people these people who are supporting some of these policies. | 有时会吓到很多支持这些政策的人。 |
| 85 | They're doing it within a democratic | 他们是在民主派内部 |
| 86 | Constitutional system. | 宪政制度. |
| 87 | They're not advocating for governments based on one-party rule or a centralized state ownership | 他们不主张政府以一党制或中央集权为基础 |
| 88 | Yes of the economy or suppression of political opposition or even limits on civil liberties | 经济或压制政治反对派甚至限制公民自由 |
| 89 | So could that translate the things that they advocate perhaps not what you mentioned earlier | 那能翻译出他们主张的东西吗? 也许不是你刚才提到的 |
| 90 | But some of those other things that we talked about greater public investment expanded childcare | 但有些其他的事情,我们谈论 更多的公共投资 扩大儿童保育 |
| 91 | Is that something that could resonate across the well, here's where I would frame things a little differently the overall mainstream | 这会在油井中产生共鸣吗? 我在这里会用不同的方式 来描述整个主流 |
| 92 | Democratic Party has moved to the left on the welfare state | 民主党在福利州左转 |
| 93 | They've moved to the left on many of those issues. | 他们在很多这些问题上都向左移动了 |
| 94 | You've mentioned the really distinctive thing | 你提到过很特别的事 |
| 95 | That's going on here is a very tight focus on foreign policy | 事情是这样的 对外交政策的高度关注 |
| 96 | opposition to a pack an organization that is a pro-israel organization and frankly the | 反对一个支持伊斯兰组织的组织, |
| 97 | Demonization of a lot of folks who have these more traditional more mainstream foreign policy views | 妖魔化很多有这些传统 比较主流的外交政策观点的人 |
| 98 | So on those issues you're talking about. | 所以,关于你所说的那些问题。 |
| 99 | Hey, let's make America a little bit more like Denmark or Sweden | 嘿,让我们让美国 更像丹麦或瑞典 |
| 100 | Those are very mainstream views that were held by the opponents of these DSA candidates | 这些是DSA候选人的反对者所持的主流观点 |
| 101 | The real thing is that energy around so-called US imperialism | 真正的事情是,在所谓的美帝国主义周围的能量 |
| 102 | Backing Cuba backing the you know, Maduro government back when it was in power in Venezuela | 马杜罗政府在委内瑞拉执政时支持古巴 |
| 103 | So this is a different kind of energy. | 这是另一种能量。 |
| 104 | Very interesting. | 非常有趣,你觉得呢? |
| 105 | We'll be watching that energy Ryan Salam. | 我们会看着瑞安・萨拉姆的能量 |
| 106 | Thank you very much | 非常感谢 |
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