【塔克·卡尔森秀】以色列如何利用宗教控制美国 | 2026.
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| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:06 | Thanks for coming back. | 谢谢你回来 |
| 0:07 | Yeah, thanks for having me. | 是的 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 0:07 | Maybe you can help solve a mystery. | 也许你可以帮助解决一个谜 |
| 0:09 | So I've always known that different people | 所以我一直知道 不同的人 |
| 0:11 | have different views on Israel. | 对于以色列有不同的看法。 |
| 0:12 | I've never been upset about it. | 我从未为此感到不快. |
| 0:14 | Post-Gaza, I'm rethinking about | 后加扎,我在考虑 |
| 0:16 | if all those views are legitimate, | 如果所有这些观点都是合法的, |
| 0:17 | but I know that decent people | 但我知道那个好人 |
| 0:18 | have different views on Israel, totally fine. | 对以色列有不同的看法,完全没问题。 |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Thanks for coming back. | 谢谢你回来 |
| 2 | Yeah, thanks for having me. | 是的 谢谢你邀请我 |
| 3 | Maybe you can help solve a mystery. | 也许你可以帮助解决一个谜 |
| 4 | So I've always known that different people | 所以我一直知道 不同的人 |
| 5 | have different views on Israel. | 对于以色列有不同的看法。 |
| 6 | I've never been upset about it. | 我从未为此感到不快. |
| 7 | Post-Gaza, I'm rethinking about | 后加扎,我在考虑 |
| 8 | if all those views are legitimate, | 如果所有这些观点都是合法的, |
| 9 | but I know that decent people | 但我知道那个好人 |
| 10 | have different views on Israel, totally fine. | 对以色列有不同的看法,完全没问题。 |
| 11 | And that includes Christians. | 包括基督徒在内 |
| 12 | And, but in the past year, | 而且,但在过去的一年, |
| 13 | it does seem that for some Christian leaders, | 对一些基督教领袖来说, |
| 14 | I don't wanna call anyone out by name, | 我不想叫任何人出来的名字, |
| 15 | but Israel's the only thing that matters. | 但以色列是唯一重要的东西 |
| 16 | So they'll approach fellow Christians | 这样他们就会接近基督徒 |
| 17 | with one question in mind, | 考虑到一个问题, |
| 18 | where does this person stand on the government of Israel? | 此人对以色列政府的立场如何? |
| 19 | And so it occupies a much greater percentage | 所以它所占的百分比要高得多 |
| 20 | of mental disc space than I ever imagined, | 精神盘片空间 比我想象的, |
| 21 | certainly than it does for me. | 肯定比我还好 |
| 22 | So what is that? | 这是什么? |
| 23 | Well, it's the old covenant. | 嗯,这是旧约。 |
| 24 | You know, I was raised just non-denominational Christian | 你知道,我长大了 只是非教派的基督徒 |
| 25 | in large scale churches and we were pro-Israel. | 在大型教堂里 我们是亲以色列的 |
| 26 | Yeah, yeah. | 对 对 |
| 27 | It's just a consistent deal when you look at, | 这仅仅是一个一致的协议 当你看着, |
| 28 | I'm always gonna go back to scripture. | 常归经. |
| 29 | So I'm always gonna use the Bible | 所以我总是要用圣经 |
| 30 | to reference my perspective and what I think is going on. | 提及我的观点 以及我的想法 |
| 31 | The nation state of Israel has just become an idol | 以色列民族国家刚刚成为偶像 |
| 32 | to the church in regards to how they perceive, | 他们对于教义的看法, |
| 33 | not all of them, but how some of them perceive it. | 不是所有的,而是他们中的一些人如何看待它。 |
| 34 | And you have to ask why. | 而得问其故. |
| 35 | And so we've done a little digging | 所以,我们做了一点挖掘 |
| 36 | in regards to some pharaoh filings and others. | 关于一些法老文件和其他文件。 |
| 37 | And when you look at the old covenant in the Bible, | 当你看圣经中的旧约时 |
| 38 | it's one of those spots or parts of the covenant | 这是盟约中的一部分 |
| 39 | that you can weaponize. | 让你可以武器化 |
| 40 | Israel is one of them, giving and generosity, | 以色列是其中之一,给予和慷慨, |
| 41 | tithing is one of them. | 咪咪是其中一个 |
| 42 | And when Christ came, he came to fulfill that whole old | 当基督降临时,他来完成那整个老 |
| 43 | covenant, that whole contract, a new covenant. | 契约 整个契约 新契约 |
| 44 | It's literally a new covenant. | 字面上是新约. |
| 45 | So that old covenant is complete, done, fulfilled, | 所以旧约是完整的,完成的,完成的, |
| 46 | put on the shelf, a new contract is in place | 放在架子上,有新合同 |
| 47 | and that's Christ contract, Christ covenant. | 这是基督契约,基督契约。 |
| 48 | And if you're a Bible believing Christian, | 如果你是信奉基督教的圣经 |
| 49 | but what that new covenant does is it takes the teeth | 但新约所做的是,它需要牙齿 |
| 50 | out of the old covenant, the old contracts. | 从旧约,旧约。 |
| 51 | That mosaic law. | 那摩诃衍法. |
| 52 | But people like to lean on that contract in that law | 但人们喜欢倚靠法律中的契约 |
| 53 | because you can weapon, I'm going to say weaponize it. | 因为你可以武器, 我要说武器化它。 |
| 54 | You can build empires again and build power structures | 你可以再造帝国 建立权力结构 |
| 55 | around basically double dipping in covenants. | 基本上在契约中双双跳。 |
| 56 | So you can say, take some things that Jesus said | 所以你可以说,拿一些事情 耶稣说 |
| 57 | and grab a couple of things from the old covenant | 从旧约里拿些东西 |
| 58 | and mash them together. | 并把它们搅拌在一起。 |
| 59 | And you have a, just a different thing. | 你有一个,只是一个不同的东西。 |
| 60 | You have Judeo Christianity, not Christianity | 你有犹太教,不是基督教 |
| 61 | and not Judaism, you have Judeo Christianity. | 而不是犹太教 你们有犹太教 |
| 62 | It's like a Reese's peanut butter cup. | 这就像里斯的花生酱杯。 |
| 63 | Exactly, it's neither or it's so Israel, the nation state | 确切的说,既不是,也不是以色列这个民族国家 |
| 64 | has become one of those cards that you can pull and say, | 成为了其中之一 你可以拉和说, |
| 65 | hey, if you don't back the nation state, | 嘿 如果你不支持国家 |
| 66 | then you clearly don't believe this book | 那你显然不相信这本书 |
| 67 | or that God is our God. | 或者说上帝是我们的神 |
| 68 | And so I always push back. | 所以我总是往后推 |
| 69 | I consider myself kind of an auditor in this regard. | 我认为自己是这方面的审计师。 |
| 70 | So I wanted to audit the nation state of Israel | 所以我想调查以色列民族国家 |
| 71 | and say, what is it exactly scripturally? | 并说,究竟是什么 在脚本上? |
| 72 | So that is, boy, it's jarring to hear you put it so plainly | 这就是说,孩子,听到你这么直截了当的说 |
| 73 | but that is really what they're saying. | 但他们就是这么说的 |
| 74 | If you don't support the Netanyahu government, | 如果你不支持内塔尼亚胡政府 |
| 75 | you're not a Christian. | 你不是一个基督徒。 |
| 76 | Yeah, I've heard it. | 是的,我听说过。 |
| 77 | I've heard that. | 我听说过 |
| 78 | Some like the dimmer ones like Huckabee to say it out loud | 有些人喜欢像哈卡比那样的沉闷 大声说出来 |
| 79 | but that is the assumption behind a lot of it. | 但这是很多事情背后的假设 |
| 80 | Well, and if my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ | 如果我在基督的兄弟姐妹们 |
| 81 | haven't read the book in its entirety, | 还没读完这本书 |
| 82 | then they'll take what Huckabee | 然后他们会拿走Huckabee的东西 |
| 83 | or what their potential pastor says from the stage | 或他们的牧师在舞台上说的话 |
| 84 | as scripturally sound. | 作为脚本的声音。 |
| 85 | And so that's what I've had a great time doing. | 因此,我有一个伟大的时间做。 |
| 86 | I mean, yeah, I've read the book by the way more than once | 我的意思是,是的,我读过书 的方式不止一次 |
| 87 | but I didn't need to read it to know that Jesus | 但我不需要读它来知道耶稣 |
| 88 | is probably not endorsing killing the innocent, | 可能不赞成杀害无辜者 |
| 89 | killing kids. | 杀死孩子。 |
| 90 | Well, I would say there's even a naivete. | 嗯,我想说甚至有一个天真。 |
| 91 | There's a strategic ignorance around that, right? | 战略上的无知,对不对? |
| 92 | Like in season one of the religion business, | 就像第一季的宗教事业一样 |
| 93 | a development economist breaks down | 一个发展经济学家崩溃了 |
| 94 | what strategic ignorance is. | 什么战略无知。 |
| 95 | And we as humans want to stay strategically ignorant | 我们人类想要保持战略无知 |
| 96 | of things that push against our bias. | 我们的偏见。 |
| 97 | Boy, I've been there. | 我去过那里 |
| 98 | Yeah, and so have I. | 是啊,我也一样。 |
| 99 | And so that's the thing is as we grow | 所以这就是我们成长的时候 |
| 100 | and hopefully mature, we look at the surroundings | 并且希望成熟,我们看看周围 |
| 101 | and say, okay, what is truth and what is not truth? | 并说,好吧,什么是真理,什么不是真理? |
| 102 | And a really simple truth is the nation state of Israel | 一个很简单的事实是以色列民族国家 |
| 103 | is not the ethnic tribe that's described in the Torah. | 不是《托拉报》描述的民族部落 |
| 104 | And so if that's our baseline, then okay, | 所以,如果这是我们的基线, 那么好吧, |
| 105 | now we can reshape our, we can look at what's truth | 现在我们可以重塑我们, 我们可以看看什么是真理 |
| 106 | and not truth and see where people are leveraging that card | 而不是真相,看看人们在利用那张牌 |
| 107 | or weaponizing that card for their own gain. | 或者为了他们自己的利益 将卡片武器化 |
| 108 | But you would think, again, even if you're not familiar | 但你会想,再次, 即使你不熟悉 |
| 109 | with the details of that book, | 有这本书的细节, |
| 110 | you haven't read the Older New Testaments, | 你还没有读过旧新约, |
| 111 | you would sort of intuit, you would sense that Jesus | 你会觉得耶稣 |
| 112 | is not in favor of say like genocide. | 不喜欢像种族灭绝那样的言论。 |
| 113 | Correct, I would hope. | 没错,我希望。 |
| 114 | But there's always a counter argument. | 但总有反辩. |
| 115 | Like in these far documents, | 就像在这些遥远的文件中, |
| 116 | literally the foreign agent | 其实是外国代理人 |
| 117 | is Israel minister of foreign affairs. | 以色列外交部长。 |
| 118 | So I keep stepping up. | 所以我继续往上爬 |
| 119 | So what are those documents? | 这些文件是什么? |
| 120 | So you're basically saying in order to understand this, | 所以你基本上说 为了了解这一点 |
| 121 | you look not just at the theology, but at the money. | 你不仅看神学,还看钱 |
| 122 | Correct at the money because, | 钱的正确,因为, |
| 123 | so okay, yes, correct at the money, | 好吧,是的,正确的在钱, |
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