宾州州长辩论完整版：夏皮罗 vs 加里蒂 | 2026.10
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:02 | It's debate night in Pennsylvania, going face to face on the debate stage for the first | 今天是宾夕法尼亚州辩论之夜 第一次在辩论舞台上面对面 |
| 0:08 | and only time, an incumbent governor defending his record. | 并且只有一次 现任州长为他的记录辩护 |
| 0:13 | I'm going to keep being the governor for all Pennsylvanians, and I'm going to keep on getting | 我要继续做宾夕法尼亚州的州长 继续得到 |
| 0:17 | stuff done. | 东西完成了。 |
| 0:18 | A challenger making the case for change. | 挑战者提出改变的理由。 |
| 0:22 | Josh Shapiro的失败 把我们推向平庸 | |
| 0:26 | I don't accept mediocrity. | 我不接受平庸的心态。 |
| 0:28 | Josh Shapiro. | 乔什·沙皮罗. |
| 0:31 | Stacey Garrity. | 史黛西・加里蒂 |
| 0:33 | Stay the course or choose a new path. | 坚持方向或选择新路径. |
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| 1 | It's debate night in Pennsylvania, going face to face on the debate stage for the first | 今天是宾夕法尼亚州辩论之夜 第一次在辩论舞台上面对面 |
| 2 | and only time, an incumbent governor defending his record. | 并且只有一次 现任州长为他的记录辩护 |
| 3 | I'm going to keep being the governor for all Pennsylvanians, and I'm going to keep on getting | 我要继续做宾夕法尼亚州的州长 继续得到 |
| 4 | stuff done. | 东西完成了。 |
| 5 | A challenger making the case for change. | 挑战者提出改变的理由。 |
| 6 | Josh Shapiro的失败 把我们推向平庸 | |
| 7 | I don't accept mediocrity. | 我不接受平庸的心态。 |
| 8 | Josh Shapiro. | 乔什·沙皮罗. |
| 9 | Stacey Garrity. | 史黛西・加里蒂 |
| 10 | Stay the course or choose a new path. | 坚持方向或选择新路径. |
| 11 | A decision that will shape Pennsylvania's next four years. | 将塑造宾夕法尼亚州未来四年的决定. |
| 12 | Tonight, you get to decide. | 今晚,你可以决定。 |
| 13 | This is the Pennsylvania Governor's Debate. | 这是宾夕法尼亚州州长辩论会 |
| 14 | Live from your local election headquarters in Harrisburg, debate night in Pennsylvania | 在宾夕法尼亚州辩论之夜, |
| 15 | starts now. | 现在开始 |
| 16 | Good evening and welcome to tonight's Pennsylvania Governor's Debate, the first and only debate | 晚上好 欢迎参加今晚宾夕法尼亚州州长辩论 第一次也是唯一的辩论 |
| 17 | between these two candidates. | 这两位候选人之间 |
| 18 | I'm your moderator, Dennis Owens of WHTM-TV in Harrisburg. | 我是你的主持人 哈里斯堡WHTM电视台的丹尼斯·欧文斯 |
| 19 | 我是你的主持人 来自匹兹堡WPXI电视台的Lisa Sylvester | |
| 20 | get started. | 开始吧 |
| 21 | Here in the studio tonight are Democratic incumbent Josh Shapiro, who is seeking a second | 今晚在录音室的 是民主党现任的乔什·沙皮罗 他正在寻求第二个 |
| 22 | term, and Republican State Treasurer Stacey Garrity, who is running to unseat him. | 和共和党州长斯塔西・加里蒂, 他正在竞选解职。 |
| 23 | This debate's being broadcast live on these Pennsylvania Next Star Stations from Philadelphia | 这场辩论在宾夕法尼亚州下星站现场直播 |
| 24 | all the way to Erie, as well as on WPXI in Pittsburgh. | 以及匹兹堡的WPXI号公路 |
| 25 | And now, let's go over the rules. | 现在,让我们看看规则。 |
| 26 | Candidates will have 90 seconds to answer questions, and they've agreed the moderators | 候选人有90秒时间回答问题 他们同意主持人 |
| 27 | will have the authority to redirect them if they move away from the question at hand. | 如果他们远离眼前的问题,他们有权改变方向。 |
| 28 | If there's need for rebuttal, they'll be given 30 seconds to respond at the moderator's discretion. | 如果需要反驳,则会给予他们30秒时间,由主持人酌定回应. |
| 29 | And we are keeping time, and you at home will be able to follow along. | 我们正在保持时间, 你在家里可以跟随。 |
| 30 | You will be able to see the clock on your screen, and it is also visible to our candidates. | 你可以在屏幕上看到时钟,我们的候选人也可以看到。 |
| 31 | And we encourage all of you to share your thoughts on X using the hashtag PagovDebate, | 我们鼓励大家用PagovDebate这个标签来分享你对X的想法, |
| 32 | and you can search it to find all the source material that we used in developing our questions. | 你可以搜索它 找到我们用来开发问题的所有原始资料 |
| 33 | The speaking order tonight was predetermined by random draw. | 今晚的演讲顺序是随机的 |
| 34 | And with that, we will begin with the hot button topic of AI data centers. | 接下来,我们将从AI数据中心的热按钮话题开始。 |
| 35 | A recent poll found that 64% of likely Pennsylvania voters oppose their construction. | 最近的一项民意调查发现,64%的可能的宾夕法尼亚州选民反对他们的建设. |
| 36 | That's led to packed, chaotic public meetings across Pennsylvania, like this one in Cumberland County, | 宾夕法尼亚州各地的公众集会 像是坎伯兰郡的一次 |
| 37 | where booing drowned out a vote to push a massive project forward. | 在那里,嘘声淹没了投票 推动一个大型项目前进。 |
| 38 | Both of you, both candidates, have changed your positions on this issue. | 你们两位候选人都在这个问题上改变了立场。 |
| 39 | Here are your comments. | 这是你的评论。 |
| 40 | AI is going to run right here through the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | AI会在这里运行 通过宾夕法尼亚联邦。 |
| 41 | I've heard loud and clear from the good people of Pennsylvania, as I've traveled across our Commonwealth. | 我从宾夕法尼亚的好人那里 听到了响亮而清晰的声音 我穿越了我们的联邦 |
| 42 | And I'm here to say today that we will not be bullied by these developers. | 我今天在这里说,我们不会被这些开发者欺负。 |
| 43 | 48 out of 67 of our counties in Pennsylvania are rural. | 宾夕法尼亚州的67个县中有48个是农村的。 |
| 44 | So there are a lot of areas where you can put data centers that I think communities would welcome. | 有很多领域你可以设置数据中心 我认为社区会欢迎它们。 |
| 45 | And data center development should be restricted to industrial brownfield sites, | 数据中心的开发应仅限于工业棕色场点, |
| 46 | and we have a ton of those sites. | 我们有很多这些网站 |
| 47 | And it should not be residential areas, because what I hear is not in my backyard, right? | 它不应该是居民区, 因为我听到的不是在我的后院,对不对? |
| 48 | Governor Shapiro, we're going to begin with you. | 夏皮罗总督,我们从你开始 |
| 49 | You've recently announced what you call the strictest data center guidelines in the nation, | 你最近宣布了 你所说的全国最严格的数据中心准则 |
| 50 | but you stopped short of a full moratorium. | 但你没有完全暂停 |
| 51 | Governors in other states, including Texas and New York, have done that. | 包括德克萨斯州和纽约州在内的其他州的州长都这样做了。 |
| 52 | Why haven't you? | 为什么不呢? |
| 53 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 54 | Well, thank you, Dennis, Lisa. | 谢谢你,丹尼斯,丽莎 |
| 55 | Thank you for hosting us tonight. | 谢谢你今晚接待我们 |
| 56 | And Madam Treasurer, thank you for joining us for this important conversation. | 财务主任女士,谢谢你来参加我们的重要谈话 |
| 57 | You know, I've spent a lot of time traveling all across this great Commonwealth | 你知道,我花了很多时间 穿越整个伟大的英联邦 |
| 58 | and listening to the concerns of the people of Pennsylvania. | 并倾听宾夕法尼亚人民的关切。 |
| 59 | And obviously, AI and data centers are on their mind. | 很明显,AI和数据中心都在他们心目中。 |
| 60 | I went to a community in Archibald, right near Scranton, | 我去了Archibald的一个社区 就在斯克兰顿附近 |
| 61 | and saw that they wanted to build a data center right on the left field line of Eddie Stay Back Park. | 看到他们想在埃迪的左外野线上 建立一个数据中心 |
| 62 | I listened to concerned residents there and across Pennsylvania, | 我听了宾夕法尼亚州和宾夕法尼亚州的 有关居民的声音 |
| 63 | came back to the Capitol and drafted the strictest guardrails in the nation | 回到国会 起草全国最严格的护栏 |
| 64 | when it comes to AI data center development. | 当涉及AI数据中心开发时. |
| 65 | If you want to build a data center in Pennsylvania, you've got to generate your own power. | 如果你想在宾夕法尼亚州建立一个数据中心,就必须产生自己的力量. |
| 66 | And the developers and the tech companies have to pay for it. | 而开发者和技术公司必须为此付出代价. |
| 67 | You've got to protect our air and water. | 你必须保护我们的空气和水。 |
| 68 | And most importantly, you have to earn the support of the local community first. | 最重要的是,你必须首先获得当地社区的支持。 |
| 69 | They have to pass an ordinance or a resolution. | 他们必须通过法令或决议。 |
| 70 | It's got to include local labor, and it must include a local benefits agreement. | 它必须包括当地劳动力,它必须包括当地的福利协议. |
| 71 | Only then, if a local community supports it, will the Commonwealth even consider the permits. | 只有这样,如果当地社区支持,联邦甚至会考虑许可证。 |
| 72 | This EO, this executive order that I put in place, | 这个办公室,这个行政命令 我制定, |
| 73 | is now being drafted by other states across the country. | 目前全国其他各州正在起草。 |
| 74 | It's become a model for how we can do responsible development in our communities | 它成为我们如何在社区里 进行负责任的发展的模式 |
| 75 | and protect our communities from predatory developers. | 并保护我们的社区 不受掠夺性开发者。 |
| 76 | Thank you, Governor. | 谢谢你,州长 |
| 77 | Follow-up, though. | 虽后继. |
| 78 | The question was, other states have issued moratoriums. | 问题是,其他国家已发布暂停令。 |
| 79 | You haven't. | 你没有。 |
| 80 | Why not? | 为什么不呢? |
| 81 | A moratorium is a timeline to get to a policy. | 暂停是执行政策的时间表。 |
| 82 | I put in place the strictest policy, the strictest guardrails in the nation | 我制定了全国最严格的政策,最严格的护栏 |
| 83 | to ensure that our communities are protected. | 确保我们的社区得到保护。 |
| 84 | Again, just putting it very simply. | 再说一遍,很简单。 |
| 85 | If a local community does not want that data center to be built in their community, | 如果一个当地社区不希望在他们的社区内建立这个数据中心, |
| 86 | it will not be built. | 它不会被建造。 |
| 87 | That policy won't even be heard. | 这政策甚至不会被听到。 |
| 88 | That proposal won't even be heard by the Commonwealth when it comes to permitting. | 在允许的情况下,联邦甚至不会听取这一建议。 |
| 89 | Okay, Governor, thank you. | 好吧,州长,谢谢你。 |
| 90 | Treasurer Garrity, you have called for a pause on data center development in Pennsylvania, | Garrity财务主任 你要求暂停在宾夕法尼亚的数据中心开发 |
| 91 | meaning even communities that want them would not be able to move forward. | 也就是说,即使是想要他们的社区也无法向前迈进。 |
| 92 | Exactly how long of a pause are you calling for? | 你到底要暂停多久? |
| 93 | And what would you say to communities that could miss out on jobs and economic opportunities? | 你会对可能错过工作和经济机会的社区说什么? |
| 94 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 95 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 96 | So first of all, thank you, Lisa. | 所以,首先,谢谢你,丽莎。 |
| 97 | Thank you, Dennis. | 谢谢你,丹尼斯。 |
| 98 | And first, I want to recognize the anniversary of the Hamas attacks, | 首先,我想纪念哈马斯袭击的周年纪念日, |
| 99 | where 1,200, nearly 1,200 innocent people were killed, including 49 Americans. | 其中1200,近1200名无辜者丧生,其中包括49名美国人. |
| 100 | I served our nation in uniform, deployed three times to the Middle East, | 我穿着军装为国家服务 三次被派往中东 |
| 101 | and I've seen the evil of terrorism up close. | 我亲眼目睹了恐怖主义的邪恶 |
| 102 | So tonight, I want to remember the lives that were stolen, | 所以今晚 我想记住那些被偷走的生命 |
| 103 | the families that were changed forever, and the Americans that didn't make it home. | 永远改变的家庭 和没有回家的美国人 |
| 104 | So as far as the governor's policy, I'd like to tell that to Janet in Union County, | 就州长政策而言 我想告诉联合县的珍妮特 |
| 105 | whose farmland is being threatened with eminent domain from one data center. | 他们的农田正受到来自一个数据中心的显著威胁。 |
| 106 | I'd like to tell it to Joe in Luzerne County, who's fighting legal battles for a data center | 我想告诉在卢泽恩郡的乔 他为数据中心而战 |
| 107 | that's going to be built in his backyard. | 那将会建在他的后院。 |
| 108 | And so the governor not only allowed, but he encouraged all of these projects to come in, | 所以州长不仅允许 而且鼓励所有的项目都进来 |
| 109 | and they've ruined some of the communities. | 他们摧毁了一些社区。 |
| 110 | Now, he listened to a poll. | 现在,他听了一个民调。 |
| 111 | I actually held five listening sessions across the Commonwealth. | 我实际上在英联邦各地举行了五次听证会。 |
| 112 | I talked to township supervisors, commissioners, local solicitors, community leaders, | 我和镇长 专员 地方律师 社区领袖谈过 |
| 113 | and I heard the same thing. | 我听到同样的事情。 |
| 114 | They're not against data centers, but they want time to get their zoning updated, Dennis. | 他们并不反对数据中心 但他们想有时间更新分区 丹尼斯 |
| 115 | How long of a pause are you calling for? | 你要暂停多久? |
| 116 | So a real leader doesn't need that long of a pause. | 所以真正的领导者不需要那么长时间的停顿. |
| 117 | You get all the stakeholders around the table and you find out what do you need | 你让所有的利益相关者都围在桌子上 找出你需要什么 |
| 118 | to protect ratepayers and protect communities. | 保护付息人和保护社区。 |
| 119 | So as long as it takes. | 故随长短. |
| 120 | There's been a number of proposals though, 90 days, six months. | 虽然有一些提议,90天,6个月。 |
| 121 | You don't have a specific? | 你没有具体内容吗? |
| 122 | No, I come from the private sector, so I think you could get it done very quickly. | 不,我来自私营部门,所以我想 你可以得到它非常快。 |
| 123 | Okay, next question, Lisa. | 好吧,下一个问题,丽莎。 |
| 124 | All right, now we are going to move to the issue of affordability. | 好吧,现在我们要着手解决负担能力问题。 |
| 125 | As of this week, AAA says the average price for a gallon of gasoline in Pennsylvania | 从本周起 AAA说宾夕法尼亚州一加仑汽油的平均价格 |
| 126 | is $4.47 a gallon. | 4.47美元一加仑。 |
| 127 | That is more than a dollar higher than just a year ago. | 这比一年前高一多美元。 |
| 128 | Diesel is even worse. | 柴油更厉害了 |
| 129 | It is now in record territory at $6.55 a gallon. | 它现在在创纪录的领土上,每加仑6.55美元。 |
| 130 | In Harrisburg, lawmakers from both parties say they want the gas tax suspended. | 在哈里斯堡,双方的立法者都说他们希望暂停天然气税. |
| 131 | We will begin with you, Treasurer Garrity. | 我们从你开始,Garrity财务主任 |
| 132 | Do you support suspending the gas tax first off and more broadly, | 你是否支持先暂停煤气税 更广义地说 |
| 133 | what exactly would you do to bring down costs for all Pennsylvanians? | 你会怎么做来降低宾夕法尼亚人的费用? |
| 134 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 135 | Sure, thanks for that question. | 当然,谢谢你的提问。 |
| 136 | So first of all, I want to mention that Ohio, New Jersey, even New York, | 首先,我想提到俄亥俄州,新泽西州,甚至纽约 |
| 137 | their gas prices are cheaper than Pennsylvania. | 他们的天然气价格比宾夕法尼亚州便宜 |
| 138 | So when the governor ran, he promised a $250 rebate | 所以当州长跑了,他答应退款250美元 |
| 139 | to every Pennsylvanian that had a valid driver's license. | 给每个有有效驾照的宾夕法尼亚人 |
| 140 | Well, I don't know about our listeners, but I didn't get my check in the mail. | 好吧,我不知道我们的听众, 但我没有得到我的支票在邮件。 |
| 141 | And so I will keep his promise and I will do two better. | 所以我会遵守他的诺言 做两个更好的。 |
| 142 | We will give a rebate for June, July, August driving months at $750. | 我们将以750美元回扣6月、7月、8月的驾驶月。 |
| 143 | And what that does, it reduces the average price of gas by a third. | 这能把天然气的平均价格降低三分之一。 |
| 144 | Now, as far as affordability, you know what? | 至于买得起的,你知道吗? |
| 145 | We need to unleash the energy that we have right under our feet. | 我们需要释放我们脚下的能量。 |
| 146 | We are the Saudi Arabia of natural gas. | 我们是天然气的沙特阿拉伯。 |
| 147 | So we should be producing affordable energy. | 因此,我们应该生产负担得起的能源。 |
| 148 | And that would create 200,000 good paying jobs, | 这样就能创造出20万份好工作 |
| 149 | generate $5 to $6 billion in revenue. | 创造50至60亿美元的收入。 |
| 150 | And also we have a plan to reduce electric bills by 15 to 20%. | 还有,我们计划把电费减少15%至20%。 |
| 151 | And if your electric bill is $200 a month, you know, that's a lot of money. | 如果你的电费是每月200美元, 你知道,这是一大笔钱。 |
| 152 | It's almost $500. | 差不多五百块了 |
| 153 | And we're going to do that by eliminating the gross receipts tax | 我们要取消毛收入税 |
| 154 | and the tax on tax stacking on your electric bills | 以及电费的税费 |
| 155 | and require full transparency so that you can see all the hidden fees. | 并需要完全透明,以便你能看到所有隐藏的费用。 |
| 156 | I hear that you are saying that you would support a rebate for drivers. | 我听说你说你会支持对司机的退款 |
| 157 | But what about a gas tax specifically? | 但具体来说,天然气税呢? |
| 158 | I'm going to give you 15 seconds for clarification. | 我给你15秒时间澄清 |
| 159 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 160 | So as far as the gas tax, you know, we talk about the rainy day fund | 至于煤气税,你知道的, 我们谈论雨日基金 |
| 161 | and we say it's for a one-time thing. | 我们说这是一次性的 |
| 162 | I think a good use of it would be for the diesel tax as well as the gas tax | 柴油税和煤气税都好用 |
| 163 | just for two to three months because I think prices are going to start going down. | 仅仅两到三个月 因为我认为价格会开始下跌。 |
| 164 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 165 | I'm going to give Governor Shapiro 30 seconds for rebuttal | 我要给Shapiro州长30秒的反驳时间 |
| 166 | specifically on the issue of your campaign promise for that $250 rebate. | 具体关于你竞选承诺 退款250美元的问题 |
| 167 | You have 30 seconds beginning now. | 你现在有30秒了 |
| 168 | Let me just say the reason why gas and diesel is at a record high | 让我直说为什么燃气和柴油都创下历史新高 |
| 169 | is because of President Trump's war in Iran, | 是因为川普总统在伊朗的战争, |
| 170 | a war that I oppose and a war that my opponent supports. | 我反对的战争 我的对手支持的战争 |
| 171 | As it relates to suspending the gas tax, | 与暂停煤气税有关 |
| 172 | I would note the last time the gas tax was increased | 我注意到上次加税的时候 |
| 173 | was when we had a Republican governor. | 当时我们有一个共和党州长。 |
| 174 | And it would require an act of the legislature to do that. | 这需要立法机构的法案来完成。 |
| 175 | I made clear to both Republicans and Democrats | 我对共和党和民主党都说清楚了 |
| 176 | that I'm open to that if they can find a way forward. | 我愿意接受,如果他们能找到前进的道路。 |
| 177 | Finally, when it comes to affordability, | 最后,关于可负担性, |
| 178 | I have brought Democrats and Republicans together | 我召集了民主党和共和党 |
| 179 | to cut taxes 10 times during my time as governor. | 在我担任州长期间 减税十次 |
| 180 | Your time is up on this, | 你的时间到了, |
| 181 | but we are going to give you 90 seconds to respond again | 但我们会给你90秒再回应 |
| 182 | to the question about suspending the gas tax. | 关于暂停煤气税的问题 |
| 183 | Would you be in favor of suspending the gas tax? | 你会赞成暂停煤气税吗? |
| 184 | And I know that you mentioned some of the things | 我知道你提到了一些事情 |
| 185 | that you would bring down for costs, | 以便你们降低费用, |
| 186 | but also if you want to address the original question, | 但是如果你想回答最初的问题 |
| 187 | which was your response to the $250 rebate | 这是你对退款250美元的反应 |
| 188 | that was promised when you were campaigning. | 那是你们竞选时所应许的。 |
| 189 | 90 seconds starting now. | 90秒开始 |
| 190 | Those rebate dollars that were available | 现有退款 |
| 191 | when I was campaigning were ultimately spent | 当我竞选时,最终花光了 |
| 192 | by the legislature before I was sworn in. | 在我宣誓就职之前 由立法机关批准 |
| 193 | But I got to work immediately to cut costs | 但我得马上去工作 以削减成本 |
| 194 | for the good people of Pennsylvania. | 为了宾夕法尼亚的好人 |
| 195 | You know, I'm the only governor in the country | 你知道,我是全国唯一的州长 |
| 196 | over the last four years with a divided legislature, | 过去4年中,立法机构分裂, |
| 197 | a Senate led by Republicans, House led by Democrats. | a 参议院由共和党人领导,众议院由民主党人领导. |
| 198 | Yet I have found ways to bring them together to cut costs. | 然而,我已找到办法,将它们聚集在一起,以减少费用。 |
| 199 | We cut taxes 10 different times | 我们减税十次 |
| 200 | for small businesses, for seniors. | 小企业,老年人。 |
| 201 | We delivered the largest targeted tax cut | 我们做了最大的定向减税 |
| 202 | for seniors in more than 20 years, | 20年多的老年人 |
| 203 | for families trying to afford childcare, | 为那些努力负担育儿费用的家庭, |
| 204 | for startups and of course for working Pennsylvanians. | 当然是宾夕法尼亚人 |
| 205 | A million working Pennsylvanians are receiving | 宾夕法尼亚州有100万工人 |
| 206 | up to 800 bucks back as a result of their hard work, | 由于他们的辛勤工作 高达800块钱的回报, |
| 207 | but just trying to help them make ends meet. | 但只是想帮助他们维持生计 |
| 208 | Now I understand if you're at home, | 现在我明白如果你在家 |
| 209 | you don't necessarily feel that | 你不一定觉得 |
| 210 | because when the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania | 因为当宾夕法尼亚联邦 |
| 211 | put one dollar in your pocket. | 在你的口袋里放一块钱。 |
| 212 | The policies of the Trump administration, | 川普政府的政策, |
| 213 | tariffs in this war in Iran, | 伊朗战争中的关税, |
| 214 | two things that my opponents support? | 我的对手支持两件事? |
| 215 | Well, that makes it feel like they're yanking two bucks out. | 这让人觉得他们正在抽两块钱 |
| 216 | We feel that when we go to the grocery store | 我们觉得,当我们去杂货店 |
| 217 | and see higher prices because of the tariffs. | 并且看到高价 因为关税。 |
| 218 | We feel the pain at the pump because of the war in Iran. | 因为伊朗的战争,我们感受到泵上的痛苦。 |
| 219 | Again, two things my opponent supports. | 同样,我的对手支持两件事。 |
| 220 | I've got a strong track record of bringing Democrats | 我有很强的民主记录 |
| 221 | and Republicans together to cut costs | 和共和党一起削减成本 |
| 222 | for the good people of Pennsylvania. | 为了宾夕法尼亚的好人 |
| 223 | And in a second term, we'll continue our work | 下个学期,我们继续工作 |
| 224 | to cut taxes, not raise them. | 削减税收,而不是提高税收。 |
| 225 | All right, I do wanna ask you, | 好吧,我想问你, |
| 226 | I'm gonna give you 15 seconds for clarification. | 我给你15秒时间澄清 |
| 227 | Ohio, for instance, has suspended its gas tax for 90 days. | 例如俄亥俄州暂停了90天的天然气税. |
| 228 | Do you or do you not support | 你还是不支持 |
| 229 | a gas tax suspension at this time? | 此时暂停天然气税? |
| 230 | Yes, and I've said I'm open to that, | 是的,我说过我愿意接受 |
| 231 | but it requires an act of the legislature. | 但它需要立法部门的行为。 |
| 232 | That's not something the governor can do on his own. | 这不是州长自己能做的 |
| 233 | Okay, we're gonna move on to the next issue. | 好吧,我们接下来再谈下一期 |
| 234 | Yeah, healthcare is already expensive | 是啊,医疗已经很昂贵了 |
| 235 | and for many Pennsylvanians, it's about to get worse. | 对许多宾夕法尼亚人来说 情况会越来越糟 |
| 236 | More than 700,000 Pennsylvanians covered by Medicaid | 70多万宾夕法尼亚州人接受医疗补助 |
| 237 | will face new federal income and work requirements | 将面临新的联邦收入和工作要求 |
| 238 | to keep their coverage. | 以保持他们的覆盖。 |
| 239 | And overall, the Pennsylvania Insurance Department | 整个宾夕法尼亚州保险局 |
| 240 | says premiums are likely to rise for everyone. | 说保费可能会上升 每个人。 |
| 241 | Governor Shapiro, you've sued the Trump administration | 沙皮罗州长,你起诉了特朗普政府 |
| 242 | over this, but those rate hikes are coming regardless. | 这一点,但那些升降率 不管怎么说。 |
| 243 | Will you spend more tax dollars | 你会花更多的税元 |
| 244 | to help Pennsylvanians stay covered? | 帮助宾夕法尼亚人保持掩护? |
| 245 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 246 | Well, first, let's identify the problem, Dennis. | 首先,我们找出问题,丹尼斯 |
| 247 | We have about 700,000 Pennsylvanians | 我们有大约70万宾夕法尼亚人 |
| 248 | who get their healthcare through Medicaid | 通过医疗补助获得医疗保健的人 |
| 249 | and through the Affordable Care Act known as PENI. | 并且通过被称为PENI的《负担得起的护理法》。 |
| 250 | 510,000 of them are losing or will lose by January | 其中有51万人在1月之前输了或将输了 |
| 251 | access to healthcare. | 获得保健服务。 |
| 252 | An additional 143,000 are going to lose food assistance. | 另有143 000人将失去粮食援助。 |
| 253 | In 26 rural hospitals, they rely primarily on Medicaid | 26家农村医院主要依靠医疗补助。 |
| 254 | or likely to shutter over the next five years. | 或可能在未来五年关闭。 |
| 255 | There is one reason and one reason only for that. | 只有一个原因,只有一个原因。 |
| 256 | A bill that was passed in Washington, D.C. | 一项法案在华盛顿特区通过. |
| 257 | to slash funding for Medicaid and SNAP in rural hospitals, | 在农村医院削减对医疗补助和SNAP的资助; |
| 258 | all to give people at the very top | 都是为了给最高层的人 |
| 259 | who didn't need it a tax cut. | 他不需要减税 |
| 260 | That was a bill that I strongly opposed. | 那是我强烈反对的法案。 |
| 261 | I urged each member of our congressional delegation | 我敦促国会代表团的每一位成员 |
| 262 | to vote against it. | 投票反对。 |
| 263 | My opponent campaigned for it. | 我的对手为之而战 |
| 264 | She called on lawmakers in Washington to pass it, | 她呼吁华盛顿的立法者通过 |
| 265 | said it would be fantastic. | 说这将是伟大的。 |
| 266 | It's not fantastic for people to lose their healthcare. | 对人们来说,失去医疗保健并不理想。 |
| 267 | It's not fantastic for nearly 700,000 of our neighbors | 这对我们近70万的邻居来说并不理想 |
| 268 | to not have access to healthcare or food assistance | 无法获得医疗保健或粮食援助; |
| 269 | or see our rural hospitals shutter. | 或者看我们的乡村医院的百叶窗 |
| 270 | But you're governor of Pennsylvania, not in D.C. | 但你是宾夕法尼亚州州长 不是在华盛顿 |
| 271 | As governor of Pennsylvania, are you willing to step in | 作为宾夕法尼亚州州长 你愿意介入吗? |
| 272 | with more tax dollars to help those Pennsylvanians? | 给那些宾夕法尼亚人加税? |
| 273 | Every governor of every state is dealing with these cuts. | 每个州的每个州长都在处理这些削减. |
| 274 | And there are no states that have the ability | 没有哪个州有能力 |
| 275 | to make up the billions and billions and billions of dollars | 以弥补亿万亿 |
| 276 | of cuts that are going to impact our citizens. | 影响我们公民的削减。 |
| 277 | I warned our congressional delegation | 我警告过我们的国会代表团 |
| 278 | and the treasurer at the time that if you pass that bill, | 而当时的司库 如果你通过账单, |
| 279 | you're going to harm Pennsylvania. | 你会伤害宾夕法尼亚州 |
| 280 | Thank you very much. | 谢谢 |
| 281 | Treasurer Garrity, you've said Pennsylvanians have told you | 加里蒂司库 你说宾夕法尼亚人告诉过你 |
| 282 | they're okay with work requirements | 他们对工作要求没意见 |
| 283 | in order to preserve the system for those who truly need it. | 为真正需要的人维护这个系统。 |
| 284 | But hundreds of thousands of people may find themselves | 但数十万人可能会发现自己 |
| 285 | without coverage. | 不覆盖。 |
| 286 | As governor, how would you handle that? | 作为州长,你会怎么做? |
| 287 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 288 | Thanks, Dennis. | 谢谢,丹尼斯 |
| 289 | So first, let's talk about the bill | 首先,我们来谈谈法案 |
| 290 | that the governor's referencing. | 州长的参考文献 |
| 291 | It is no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, | 不收小费,不收加班费 |
| 292 | no tax on social security, expanded child tax credit. | 不征收社会保障税,扩大儿童税收减免。 |
| 293 | So the governor opposes all of that. | 所以州长反对这一切。 |
| 294 | Now, what he didn't tell you is Medicaid's | 现在,他没有告诉你的是 医疗补助 |
| 295 | not being done away with. | 没有被取消。 |
| 296 | In fact, we're spending more on Medicaid this year | 事实上,我们今年花更多的钱买医保 |
| 297 | than last year. | 比去年还要好 |
| 298 | Medicaid, the intended purpose was to help pregnant women, | 医疗补助计划旨在帮助孕妇, |
| 299 | moms and kids, seniors, people with disabilities. | 母亲和孩子,老人,残疾人。 |
| 300 | And so Congress is slowing it down | 所以国会就减速了 |
| 301 | because they want to make sure that it's there | 因为他们想确保它在那里 |
| 302 | for the people that really need it. | 为了真正需要它的人 |
| 303 | Now, what the governor doesn't tell you | 州长没告诉你的 |
| 304 | is when he was attorney general, | 是当他担任总检察长时, |
| 305 | he said there were $3 billion in home healthcare fraud, | 他说有30亿美元的家庭保健欺诈, |
| 306 | but he couldn't do anything about it | 但他却无能为力 |
| 307 | until he was governor. | 直到他成为州长 |
| 308 | Well, he's been the governor for about four years. | 他当州长已经四年了 |
| 309 | And what has he done? | 他做了什麽? |
| 310 | Well, I'll tell you, nothing, okay? | 好吧,我会告诉你,没什么,好吗? |
| 311 | Very good, I want to give governor 30 seconds | 很好,我想给州长30秒 |
| 312 | just to respond to that. | 只是为了回应这一点。 |
| 313 | The fact is, my opponent urged lawmakers in Washington | 事实是,我的对手敦促 在华盛顿的立法者 |
| 314 | to vote in favor of a bill to give tax cuts | 投票支持减税法案 |
| 315 | to the people at the very top, | 致最上层的人们, |
| 316 | which result in 510,000 Pennsylvanians | 510,000宾夕法尼亚州人 |
| 317 | losing access to healthcare, | 失去获得医疗保健的机会, |
| 318 | and 143,000 will lose access to SNAP. | 和143 000人将失去进入SNAP的机会。 |
| 319 | Those cuts will be devastating for our communities. | 这些削减将对我们的社区造成毁灭性的影响。 |
| 320 | I want to come back to you for 30 seconds | 我想回到你身边30秒 |
| 321 | because as governor, you would have to deal with that. | 因为作为州长,你必须面对这种情况。 |
| 322 | How would you? | 你会怎么做? |
| 323 | That's right, well, I think it's common sense | 没错,我想这是常识 |
| 324 | to require healthy adults that don't have small kids | 需要健康的成年人 没有小孩 |
| 325 | to either work, train or volunteer 20 hours a week | 每周工作、培训或志愿工作20小时 |
| 326 | to make sure that Medicaid is there | 确保医疗援助金在那里 |
| 327 | for the people that really need it. | 为了真正需要它的人 |
| 328 | Okay, we're gonna move on to Lisa. | 好,我们继续找丽莎 |
| 329 | All right, one week from tonight, | 好吧,离今晚一个星期后, |
| 330 | skill games found in convenience stores, | 在便利店发现的技巧游戏, |
| 331 | bars and nonprofits across Pennsylvania | 宾夕法尼亚州的酒吧和非营利机构 |
| 332 | will go dark because of a state Supreme Court ruling. | 将会因为州最高法院的裁决而变黑 |
| 333 | Treasurer Garrity, you have expressed support | Garrity财务主任 你表示支持 |
| 334 | for legalizing skill games, | 使技能游戏合法化, |
| 335 | but you have not given specifics. | 但你没有给出细节。 |
| 336 | How much should they be taxed | 他们应该纳税多少? |
| 337 | and where should that money go? | 钱应该放哪? |
| 338 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 339 | Sure, thank you, Lisa. | 当然,谢谢你,丽莎。 |
| 340 | So first of all, the governor wants to tax | 所以,首先,州长想征税 |
| 341 | American legions, VFWs, fire halls | 美国军团、退伍军人、消防队 |
| 342 | and small businesses by 52%. | 小企业增加52%。 |
| 343 | Now I'm a veteran, so I visit a lot of VFWs and legions | 现在我是个老兵 所以我拜访了很多退伍军人和军团 |
| 344 | and I can tell you, they give so much back to the community | 我可以告诉你, 他们给这么多回 社区 |
| 345 | and this is also thousands of jobs for Pennsylvanians. | 宾夕法尼亚人也有成千上万份工作 |
| 346 | So why does he want to tax them at 52%? | 那他为什么想按52%的税率征税? |
| 347 | He knows that they can't survive at 52% | 他知道他们活不过52% |
| 348 | and it's because one of his biggest benefactors | 是因为他最大的恩人之一 |
| 349 | is Michael Urban, who is the CEO of Fanatics | 是迈克尔·乌尔班 他是Fanatics的首席执行官 |
| 350 | and also owns a casino. | 还有一家赌场 |
| 351 | And I would urge the governor to think about the jobs | 我会敦促州长考虑一下工作 |
| 352 | and all the money that these groups give back | 和所有的钱 这些集团还 |
| 353 | to the community because American legions, VFWs, | 因为美国军团,退伍军人, |
| 354 | fire halls, small businesses, | 消防厅,小企业, |
| 355 | they are the backbone of Pennsylvania. | 他们是宾夕法尼亚州的骨干 |
| 356 | All right, so I want to ask a point of clarification here. | 好吧,我想请大家澄清一点。 |
| 357 | How much should they be taxed? | 他们应该纳税多少? |
| 358 | Well, first of all, do you support taxing them? | 首先,你支持对他们征税吗? |
| 359 | It sounds like you do support legalizing them. | 听起来你支持他们合法化 |
| 360 | Do you support taxing them | 你是否支持征税 |
| 361 | and what should that number be, 15 seconds? | 那号码是多少,15秒? |
| 362 | And also there's a lot of debate | 还有很多争论 |
| 363 | {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}关于税收收入应该流向哪里 {\fn黑体\fs22\bord1\shad0\3aHBE\4aH00\fscx67\fscy66\2cHFFFFFF\3cH808080}你觉得呢 | |
| 364 | Right, so I support a flat dollar per month, | 是的,所以我每月支持一个固定美元, |
| 365 | $500 per month for 50,000 machines. | 50 000台机器每月500美元。 |
| 366 | That brings about $300 million in revenue to the state. | 这给国家带来大约3亿美元的收入. |
| 367 | Okay, Governor Shapiro, I'm gonna turn to you | 好,沙皮罗州长,我去找你 |
| 368 | and you will also have a chance to address | 并且你也会有一个机会 |
| 369 | some of the comments that Treasurer Garrity made. | Garrity财务主任的一些评论。 |
| 370 | But many of these nonprofits say losing skill games | 但很多这些非营利组织都说输掉技能游戏 |
| 371 | would devastate them. | 将摧毁他们。 |
| 372 | They say taxing the machines at 52% like slots | 他们说,对机器征税 52%像插槽 |
| 373 | as you have proposed is too high. | 正如你所建议,这是太高。 |
| 374 | So what is your response? | 那你的反应是什么? |
| 375 | And likewise, how should that money be spent, 90 seconds? | 同样,这笔钱应该怎么花,90秒? |
| 376 | I've been consistent on this issue for the last four years. | 过去四年来,我在这个问题上一直保持一致。 |
| 377 | I've urged lawmakers to pass my legislation | 我劝立法者通过我的立法 |
| 378 | which would allow roughly 45,000 of these machines | 大约45 000台机器 |
| 379 | to be regulated, right now they're illegal, | 被管制, 现在它们是非法的, |
| 380 | and tax them a rate of 52%, | 并征收52%的税率, |
| 381 | which is the traditional tax rate we have | 这是我们传统的税率 |
| 382 | on other gaming in Pennsylvania. | 在宾夕法尼亚的其他游戏。 |
| 383 | So that we wouldn't advantage | 这样我们就不会占优势 |
| 384 | one type of gaming over another. | 一种赌博 另一种。 |
| 385 | I would drive those dollars into the general fund | 我会把这些钱开进普通基金 |
| 386 | and then use a core chunk of that | 然后使用其中的核心块 |
| 387 | to fund mass transit across Pennsylvania. | 资助大众通过宾夕法尼亚州 |
| 388 | The House of Representatives has supported my plan. | 众议院支持我的计划. |
| 389 | The Senate of Pennsylvania led by Republicans | 共和党领导的宾夕法尼亚州参议院 |
| 390 | has refused to bring it up. | 已经拒绝提出它。 |
| 391 | There's about a week left, I think Lisa, | 还有一个星期,我想丽莎, |
| 392 | as you indicated in your question | 正如你在问题中指出的 |
| 393 | before the Supreme Court deadline goes into effect. | 在最高法院的最后期限生效之前。 |
| 394 | I'm hopeful that lawmakers will finally | 我希望立法者们终于能 |
| 395 | do the right thing and allow these machines to stay | 做正确的事情 让这些机器留下来 |
| 396 | in a VFW, in a local community center, | 在一个社区中心, |
| 397 | in our communities across Pennsylvania. | 我们整个宾夕法尼亚州的社区 |
| 398 | But lawmakers need to come back to Harrisburg. | 但立法者需要回到哈里斯堡. |
| 399 | They need to stop campaigning | 他们必须停止竞选 |
| 400 | and start focusing on their work. | 并开始专注于他们的工作。 |
| 401 | And they need to get this bill to my desk. | 他们需要把帐单拿到我的办公桌 |
| 402 | Governor Shapiro, I wanna do a 30 second follow up on this | 沙皮罗州长,我想再跟进30秒 |
| 403 | because you had the power, | 因为你有力量 |
| 404 | you could have called them back for a special session | 你本可以召他们回来参加特别会议的 |
| 405 | in order to get this done. | 为了完成这件事 |
| 406 | Because you're saying that you want them to be taxed, | 因为你说你想让他们纳税 |
| 407 | to go forward, you want this source of revenue | 继续前进,你想要这个收入来源 |
| 408 | for the general fund. | 普通基金。 |
| 409 | So why didn't you call back lawmakers to get this done? | 那你为什么不回电给立法者呢? |
| 410 | I mean, here we are down to the wire | 我的意思是,我们到了电线 |
| 411 | with a week left to go, 30 seconds. | 还有一个星期,还有30秒 |
| 412 | Well, first off, the Senate of Pennsylvania | 首先,宾夕法尼亚州参议院 |
| 413 | needs to come to work. | 需要来工作。 |
| 414 | There are 365 days in the year, | 全年有365天时间 |
| 415 | I think they've been in session, about 30 days. | 我想他们已经开庭30天了 |
| 416 | While a governor can call a special session, | 虽然州长可以召集特别会议, |
| 417 | it's still up to the lawmakers to show up | 仍然要靠立法者来 |
| 418 | and do their jobs and vote on these matters. | 并做好他们的工作,就这些事项进行表决。 |
| 419 | My hope is that the Republican leadership | 我希望共和党的领导 |
| 420 | in the state Senate, leaders that support my opponent, | 在州参议院 支持我对手的领导人 |
| 421 | but unfortunately don't support these VFWs | 但不幸的是,不支持这些VFW |
| 422 | and don't support these community centers, | 不要支持这些社区中心, |
| 423 | that they'll come to Harrisburg and do their jobs | 他们会来哈里斯堡做他们的工作 |
| 424 | and put this bill on my desk. | 把这个账单放在我桌上 |
| 425 | Okay, we are gonna move on to the next issue, Dennis. | 好了,我们接下来再谈下一期,丹尼斯 |
| 426 | Let's talk about the state budget. | 谈州预算. |
| 427 | Just 10 years ago, it was $31.5 billion. | 就在10年前,它达到了315亿美元。 |
| 428 | This year, 50.1 billion. | 今年501亿元. |
| 429 | And the state is facing a $5 billion | 国家面临50亿美元 |
| 430 | structural deficit next year. | 明年的结构性赤字。 |
| 431 | Governor Shapiro, you wanted an even larger budget, | 沙皮罗州长,你想要更大的预算 |
| 432 | more than $53 billion. | 超过530亿美元。 |
| 433 | And in addition to skill games, | 除了技巧游戏, |
| 434 | you've supported legalizing and taxing | 你支持合法化和征税 |
| 435 | recreational marijuana. | 娱乐性大麻。 |
| 436 | But the independent fiscal office says | 但独立的财政办公室说 |
| 437 | even if you got those two, | 即使你得到了这两个, |
| 438 | it still would not cover the deficit. | 它仍然无法弥补赤字。 |
| 439 | So can you tell us specifically what you would cut | 你能具体告诉我们你会剪什么吗? |
| 440 | or how else you would raise revenue | 或者你如何提高收入 |
| 441 | in order to balance the budget as required by law? | 以便按照法律规定平衡预算? |
| 442 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 443 | I have brought Democrats and Republicans together | 我召集了民主党和共和党 |
| 444 | over the last four years to pass four balanced budgets. | 过去四年来通过了四个平衡的预算。 |
| 445 | Four balanced budgets that make critical investments | 进行重要投资的4项平衡预算 |
| 446 | in public safety and education and economic development. | 在公共安全和教育及经济发展方面。 |
| 447 | Four balanced budgets that have received | 已收到4份平衡预算 |
| 448 | a majority vote of Republicans. | 共和党的多数票 |
| 449 | Only a few extreme Republicans have opposed it. | 只有少数极端共和党人反对. |
| 450 | I would note that my opponent has opposed it. | 我要指出,我的对手反对。 |
| 451 | She obviously opposes investing in education | 她显然反对投资教育 |
| 452 | and public safety, opposes these tax cuts | 和公共安全,反对减税 |
| 453 | that have been part of these budgets. | 这些预算的一部分。 |
| 454 | I would respectfully disagree with the way you characterized | 恕我直言,我不同意你的说法 |
| 455 | our fiscal situation in Pennsylvania. | 宾夕法尼亚州的财政状况 |
| 456 | We have an $8 billion budget surplus today. | 我们今天有80亿美元的预算盈余。 |
| 457 | Revenues that were just reported a few days ago | 几天前刚报的收入 |
| 458 | were hundreds of millions of dollars higher | 高了几亿美元 |
| 459 | than ever before because our economy is growing. | 因为我们的经济正在增长。 |
| 460 | In fact, we have the only growing economy | 事实上,我们只有经济成长 |
| 461 | here in the Northeast. | 在东北 |
| 462 | And our growth rate was at 5.4% last year. | 去年我们的增长率是5.4%。 |
| 463 | Unheard of growth. | 未闻增长. |
| 464 | My view is we should be growing our economy. | 我认为,我们应该发展经济。 |
| 465 | I'm a pro-growth governor. | 我是一个有利于成长的州长。 |
| 466 | As opposed to taxing people or adding a burden | 而不是对人征税或增加负担 |
| 467 | on families in Pennsylvania. | 关于宾夕法尼亚州的家庭。 |
| 468 | We're growing our economy, we're generating revenues, | 我们正在发展经济,创造收入, |
| 469 | and then we have resources | 然后我们有资源 |
| 470 | to make these critical investments. | 进行这些关键投资。 |
| 471 | Just a 15 second follow-up. | 15秒后跟进 |
| 472 | It was the Independent Fiscal Office, by the way, | 顺便说一句,是独立财政局 |
| 473 | is talking about the deficit. | 是在谈论赤字。 |
| 474 | There's no, you've had four budgets now. | 没有 你现在有四个预算 |
| 475 | There's no areas in a $50 billion budget | 五百亿的预算中没有地方 |
| 476 | you would cut, specifics? | 你会切,具体? |
| 477 | Look, I think there's some priorities | 你看,我觉得有些优先事项 |
| 478 | that the Republican Senate put in that I would likely cut. | 共和党元老院说,我可能会砍。 |
| 479 | We'll see what the makeup of the legislature | 我们看看立法机构的构成 |
| 480 | looks like next year. | 看起来像明年。 |
| 481 | But I wanna stress, the Independent Fiscal Office, | 但我想强调 独立财政局 |
| 482 | they've actually been wrong each time in their projections. | 他们的预测每次都是错的 |
| 483 | Our revenues are up, we have an $8 billion surplus, | 我们的收入上升,我们有80亿美元的盈余, |
| 484 | we've cut taxes 10 times, | 我们已经减税十次了 |
| 485 | and we've managed to make critical investments | 我们成功进行了关键的投资 |
| 486 | through bipartisan budgets. | 通过两党预算。 |
| 487 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 488 | Treasurer Garrity, you've said this year's budget, quote, | Garrity财务主任 你说今年的预算 |
| 489 | spent too much money. | 花了太多钱。 |
| 490 | As treasurer, you know better than anyone | 作为司库,你比任何人都清楚 |
| 491 | where that money is going. | 钱会花到哪里去? |
| 492 | What exactly would you cut to bring that number down? | 你究竟要切什么才能把号码弄下来? |
| 493 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 494 | Thanks, Dennis. | 谢谢,丹尼斯 |
| 495 | So first of all, the governor did pass four budgets. | 因此,首先,州长确实通过了四项预算。 |
| 496 | They were all eight, every single budget. | 他们都是8,每个预算。 |
| 497 | And when he took office, | 当他上任时 |
| 498 | he had just about a $10 billion surplus. | 他只有大约100亿美元的盈余。 |
| 499 | So now what that surplus is, is zero. | 现在的盈余是零。 |
| 500 | 所以他做了什么? 他的错? So what did he do? | |
| 501 | His administration, he spent all your money. | 他用光了你的钱 |
| 502 | And when he talks about the surplus now, | 而当他谈论现在的盈余, |
| 503 | conveniently, that's the rainy day fund. | 方便的是,这是雨季基金。 |
| 504 | And you are not supposed to use a rainy day fund | 你不应该用雨天基金 |
| 505 | to plug a budget hole. | 插入预算漏洞。 |
| 506 | A rainy day fund is there for an economic downturn | 降雨日基金用于经济下滑 |
| 507 | or a crisis. | 或危机。 |
| 508 | And so he claims that he passed four balanced budgets, | 他声称他通过了四个平衡的预算 |
| 509 | but clearly he didn't, | 但他显然没有 |
| 510 | because every time he took money from the surplus | 因为他每次从盈余中拿钱 |
| 511 | and used it to plug a budget hole. | 用它来堵上一个预算洞 |
| 512 | So what would I do? | 我该怎么办? |
| 513 | When you come from the private sector, | 当你从私营部门来, |
| 514 | you just can't throw more money at something, more money, | 你只是不能扔更多的钱 的东西,更多的钱, |
| 515 | and think you're gonna get a different result. | 认为你会得到不同的结果。 |
| 516 | You have to figure out, | 你必须想出办法 |
| 517 | you have to roll up your sleeves, | 你得把袖子卷起来 |
| 518 | you have to show real leadership, | 你必须表现出真正的领导才能, |
| 519 | which he has not failed to show, | 他没有表现出来, |
| 520 | and decide where you need to cut. | 并决定你在哪里需要切。 |
| 521 | And the first example that I pointed out earlier | 我之前指出的第一个例子 |
| 522 | is $3 billion in home healthcare fraud. | 30亿美元的家庭保健欺诈。 |
| 523 | Also, my office finds 60 to $80 million | 还有,我的办公室找到六千到八千万美元 |
| 524 | of true savings every year. | 每年真正的储蓄。 |
| 525 | And that's because we audit every payment | 那是因为我们审计所有付款 |
| 526 | that goes out of the Commonwealth. | 离开英联邦。 |
| 527 | And so, we expect families to live within their means | 因此,我们期望家庭 生活在其能力范围内 |
| 528 | and our governor should be doing the same thing. | 我们的州长也应该这么做 |
| 529 | Governor Shapiro, I wanna give you 30 seconds | 沙皮罗州长,我给你30秒 |
| 530 | to respond to that | 回应 |
| 531 | and using of the rainy day funded surpluses. | 利用雨天的盈余 |
| 532 | Democrats and Republicans have come together | 民主党和共和党已经走到一起 |
| 533 | to make these investments, to cut taxes. | 进行这些投资,减少税收。 |
| 534 | And today, we have an economy | 而今天,我们的经济 |
| 535 | that's growing faster than ever before. | 这比以前快多了 |
| 536 | Today, we are having record revenues come in. | 今天,我们有了创纪录的收入。 |
| 537 | And today, we are in a strong position | 今天,我们处于一个强势的地位 |
| 538 | with an $8 billion budget surplus | 预算盈余80亿美元 |
| 539 | to make the critical investments we need tomorrow. | 以进行我们明天需要的关键投资。 |
| 540 | What the treasurer didn't say is what she would cut. | 司库没说她会割什么 |
| 541 | Would she cut free breakfast for kids? | 她会给孩子免费吃早餐吗? |
| 542 | Would she cut the 60% increase in apprenticeship funding? | 她会削减60%的学徒资助吗? |
| 543 | What would she cut since she's against all these places? | 既然她反对这些地方 她会切什么? |
| 544 | I just want clarification | 我只想澄清 |
| 545 | because you're calling it a surplus | 因为你称之为盈余 |
| 546 | and you are referring to the rainy day fund, though. | 你指的是雨季基金 |
| 547 | There is $8 billion sitting here in Harrisburg | 哈里斯堡有80亿美元 |
| 548 | as opposed to being invested | 相对于投资 |
| 549 | in the good people of Pennsylvania. | 在宾夕法尼亚的好人。 |
| 550 | And I wanna give treasurer Gary 30 seconds to respond. | 我想给财长加里30秒回应 |
| 551 | Yes, the $8 billion is the rainy day fund | 是的,80亿美元是雨天基金 |
| 552 | and the rainy day fund, the intended spending on that | 和雨天基金, 计划支出 |
| 553 | is for an economic downturn or a crisis. | 是因为经济衰退或危机。 |
| 554 | It's not to plug a budget hole. | 不是为了堵塞预算漏洞. |
| 555 | And then the governor comparing ourselves | 然后州长比较我们自己 |
| 556 | to New Jersey and New York, that's a pretty low bar. | 到新泽西和纽约, 这是一个相当低的酒吧。 |
| 557 | Lisa, next topic. | 丽莎,下一个话题。 |
| 558 | And we rank 47th out of 50 economically. | 我们的经济排名是第47位的 |
| 559 | 我们没有 We're not. | |
| 560 | We are gonna move on to, | 我们要继续前进, |
| 561 | we've got a number of issues we wanna get to. | 我们有很多问题要解决 |
| 562 | Next up is Pennsylvania continues to boost education funding | 接下来是宾夕法尼亚州继续增加教育经费 |
| 563 | after a court ruled in 2023 | 在2023年法院做出判决后 |
| 564 | that the old system relying on property taxes | 旧制度依赖财产税 |
| 565 | to fund schools is unconstitutional | 资助学校是违宪的 |
| 566 | and has led to big disparities | 导致了巨大的差距 |
| 567 | between the richer and the poorer school districts. | 在较富裕和较贫穷的校区之间。 |
| 568 | So treasurer Garrity first, | 所以财阀加里蒂先, |
| 569 | the governor has prioritized record spending | 州长已经把记录支出列为优先 |
| 570 | for public schools during his term. | 在他任职期间为公立学校服务。 |
| 571 | That is an approach that you have said does not work. | 你说过,这种做法行不通。 |
| 572 | So what would you do? | 你会怎么做? |
| 573 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 574 | Sure, so yes, we have spent $3 billion more on education | 当然,所以是的,我们花了30亿多用于教育 |
| 575 | since the governor came into office. | 自从州长上任以来 |
| 576 | And this is the issue. | 这就是问题所在。 |
| 577 | Our results are not improving. | 我们的成果没有改善。 |
| 578 | Seven out of 10 of our eighth graders cannot read | 八年级的七分之一读不出来 |
| 579 | or do math at grade level. | 或者在年级做数学 |
| 580 | And yes, he stands up in his budget address | 是的,他在预算演讲中站起来了 |
| 581 | and says we rank in the top 10. | 说我们排在前十 |
| 582 | Will we rank in the top 10 in spending? | 我们的支出会排在前十吗? |
| 583 | Not in outcomes. | 没有结果。 |
| 584 | So there's some common sense things that we need to do. | 所以我们需要做一些常识的事情。 |
| 585 | And like I said earlier, | 正如我之前所说, |
| 586 | we can't just keep throwing more money at an issue | 我们不能老是乱扔钱 |
| 587 | and think you're gonna get a different result. | 认为你会得到不同的结果。 |
| 588 | So we need to put some gates in place. | 因此,我们需要设置一些大门。 |
| 589 | We can't just keep pushing these kids through. | 我们不能老是逼这些孩子 |
| 590 | So by the third grade, | 所以到了三年级, |
| 591 | your child needs to be able to read. | 您的孩子需要能够阅读。 |
| 592 | And if they can't, | 如果他们不能, |
| 593 | and there's a lot of steps you can take | 你可以采取许多步骤 |
| 594 | to make sure that they're not falling behind, | 确保他们不会落后, |
| 595 | they need to stay. | 他们需要留下来。 |
| 596 | By the time they get to the eighth grade, | 到八年级的时候 |
| 597 | they need to read and do math at grade level. | 他们需要读和做数学 在年级。 |
| 598 | These are common sense approaches. | 这些是常识的方法。 |
| 599 | And then I believe in school choice | 然后我相信学校的选择 |
| 600 | because parents, not bureaucrats, | 因为父母,不是官僚, |
| 601 | know the best way to educate their kids. | 知道教育孩子的最佳方法 |
| 602 | I will note that the governor has held not one, not two, | 我会注意到,州长没有持有一个,不是两个, |
| 603 | but three positions on school choice. | 但三个职位 在学校选择。 |
| 604 | He was for it when he first ran. | 他刚跑的时候也支持 |
| 605 | Then he lied not and vetoed it out of the first budget. | 然后他没有撒谎,并否决了第一个预算。 |
| 606 | And now he says he can't do anything | 现在他说他无能为力 |
| 607 | because he has a divided legislature. | 因为他有 分裂的立法机构。 |
| 608 | And I will note that he is not the only state | 我会指出他不是唯一的州 |
| 609 | that has a divided legislature. | 立法权是分开的 |
| 610 | I do wanna get a 15-second clarification on here. | 我想在这里得到一个15秒的澄清。 |
| 611 | You mentioned, for instance, | 你提到,例如, |
| 612 | the need to have students reading at grade level, | 需要学生在年级阅读, |
| 613 | doing math at grade level. | 在年级做数学。 |
| 614 | So what would you do, 15 seconds? | 你会怎么做,15秒? |
| 615 | Well, like I said, we have to have those gates there. | 正如我所说,我们必须有这些大门在那里。 |
| 616 | So we have a program. | 所以我们有一个程序。 |
| 617 | We need to make sure that we're teaching the scientists. | 我们需要确保我们在教授科学家。 |
| 618 | We need to teach the teachers. | 我们要教老师 |
| 619 | We need to make sure that kids aren't falling behind. | 我们得确保孩子不会落后 |
| 620 | We need to take best practices from our top schools | 我们需要从我们的顶尖学校中吸取最佳做法 |
| 621 | and bring them into the failing schools. | 让他们进入失败的学校。 |
| 622 | And we need to hold these kids back if they can't read. | 如果这些孩子不识字,我们就得阻止他们 |
| 623 | Every child deserves a chance at the American dream. | 每个孩子在美国梦里都值得机会 |
| 624 | And a good education is the way to do it. | 而善教育为道. |
| 625 | We're gonna turn to you now, Governor Shapiro. | 我们现在就去找你 沙皮罗州长 |
| 626 | We wanna talk about education, | 我们想谈谈教育 |
| 627 | but in the context of your leadership, | 但是在你的领导之下 |
| 628 | and this did come up in 2023, you said, | 这确实发生在2023年 你说 |
| 629 | every child of God deserves a shot here | 每个上帝的孩子都值得一试 |
| 630 | in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | 在宾夕法尼亚联邦。 |
| 631 | And you left the door open for school vouchers, | 你却把门开着 给学校的券, |
| 632 | but then you vetoed a $100 billion voucher program | 但后来你否决了一千亿的券计划 |
| 633 | after it became clear that your party | 在你的派对明朗之后 |
| 634 | and the teachers unions would not go for it. | 教师工会不会同意的 |
| 635 | So first, can you explain that for us? | 所以,首先,你能解释给我们听吗? |
| 636 | And can you point to an issue where you as governor | 你能指向一个问题吗 作为州长 |
| 637 | were willing to break from your party | 愿意离开你的派对 |
| 638 | and risk the political consequences | 并冒着政治后果的风险 |
| 639 | because of something that you believe in personally? | 就因为你个人相信的东西? |
| 640 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 641 | This is an issue I believe in personally. | 我个人相信这个问题。 |
| 642 | And I made clear I wanna see Democrats in the House | 我明确表示我想见民主党人 |
| 643 | and Republicans in the Senate | 参议院中的共和党人 |
| 644 | find common ground on this issue, | 在这个问题上找到共同立场, |
| 645 | put the bill on my desk and I'll sign it into law. | 把账单放在我桌上 我会把它签到法律上 |
| 646 | The bill you referenced did not have that agreement. | 你提到的法案没有协议 |
| 647 | More broadly on education, | 在教育方面, |
| 648 | because I think it's a critically important topic, | 因为我认为这是一个非常重要的议题, |
| 649 | we have to remember what life was like | 我们必须记住生活是什么样子 |
| 650 | the last time we had a Republican governor. | 上次我们有一个共和党州长。 |
| 651 | They cut a billion dollars out of public education. | 他们削减了10亿美元 从公共教育。 |
| 652 | On my watch, we've invested 35% more in our public schools, | 在我看,我们已经投资35% 在我们的公立学校, |
| 653 | but it's not just about the bottom line | 但不只是关于底线 |
| 654 | of a school district's budget. | 一个校区的预算。 |
| 655 | It's about the difference it's making in their schools. | 是关于它在他们学校中产生的差别. |
| 656 | I was at Neil Armstrong Elementary just the other day | 我那天在尼尔·阿姆斯特朗小学 |
| 657 | up in the Scranton area. | 在斯克兰顿地区 |
| 658 | They've got more classrooms today | 他们今天有更多的教室 |
| 659 | than they were able to afford before | 他们比以前还有钱 |
| 660 | to help our kids with IDA, | 帮助我们的孩子开发协会, |
| 661 | with intellectual disabilities and autism. | 智力残疾和自闭症。 |
| 662 | Was it a school in Allentown where the kids | 是艾伦敦的学校吗? |
| 663 | were so pumped up to tell me about band | 说起乐队 |
| 664 | coming back to their school because of the investments. | 回到他们的学校 因为投资。 |
| 665 | 1.7 million students in Pennsylvania today | 今天在宾夕法尼亚州有170万学生 |
| 666 | get free breakfast because of our investments in education. | 免费早餐,因为我们在教育方面的投资。 |
| 667 | We've seen a 60% increase in VOTEC | 我们看到VOTEC增长了60% |
| 668 | because I believe students should have a pathway | 因为我相信学生应该有一条路 |
| 669 | to success and opportunity, | 成功与机会, |
| 670 | whether it's to a union training facility, | 不管是去一个工会培训机构, |
| 671 | to college, the military, or to a small business. | 大学、军队、小生意 |
| 672 | We've got to give them the skills they need | 我们必须给他们所需的技能 |
| 673 | to be able to succeed. | 能够成功 |
| 674 | And 1,000 schools today in Pennsylvania | 今天宾夕法尼亚有一千所学校 |
| 675 | have mental health counselors when they didn't before | 以前没有心理咨询师 |
| 676 | because of these investments. | 因为这些投资。 |
| 677 | Graduation rates are up and truancy is down | 毕业率上升,逃学率下降 |
| 678 | and it is working. | 它正在发挥作用。 |
| 679 | Governor Shapiro, just a 15 second clarification. | 沙皮罗州长,15秒后再澄清 |
| 680 | So this is an issue, the issue over vouchers | 所以,这是一个问题, 发行凭证 |
| 681 | that you will break from your own party | 你将打破你的党 |
| 682 | because you believe in this personally. | 因为你相信这个个人。 |
| 683 | I've been very consistent in my position | 我的立场很一贯 |
| 684 | that it is not an either or, | 这不是一个或者, |
| 685 | either we invest in public education | 要么我们投资公共教育 |
| 686 | or make those investments in educational opportunity. | 或对教育机会进行投资。 |
| 687 | It's both end. | 既而终. |
| 688 | I wanna see investments in public schools like we've done | 我想看到投资 在公立学校像我们做 |
| 689 | and I'm open to seeing the Democrats and Republicans | 我愿意见到民主党和共和党 |
| 690 | come together to be able to provide that opportunity. | 一起来提供这个机会。 |
| 691 | I wanna stay with you, Governor Shapiro, | 我想和你在一起 沙皮罗州长 |
| 692 | because I do have a followup on education. | 因为我有关于教育的后续报道。 |
| 693 | On January 1st, the Trump administration will give people | 1月1日,特朗普政府将给人民 |
| 694 | a $1,700 tax credit for tutoring, | a 1 700美元辅导税抵免额, |
| 695 | private school, or homeschooling. | 私立学校或家庭教育。 |
| 696 | 30 states have opted in, Pennsylvania has not. | 30个州选择了,宾夕法尼亚没有。 |
| 697 | Will you opt in, why or why not? | 你会选择加入,为什么或为什么不加入? |
| 698 | You have 30 seconds. | 你有30秒钟。 |
| 699 | Yeah, I'm very open to this. | 是啊,我很开放这一点。 |
| 700 | We just received the guidance from the federal government | 我们刚接到联邦政府的指示 |
| 701 | just a few days ago. | 几天前开始的 |
| 702 | I tasked my agencies with determining | 我让我的机构决定 |
| 703 | how this would work in Pennsylvania | 宾夕法尼亚州会怎么样? |
| 704 | under those federal requirements. | 根据这些联邦要求。 |
| 705 | I expect in the next few weeks here | 我期待接下来的几周 |
| 706 | to be able to make an announcement on opting in or not. | 能够宣布是否选择加入。 |
| 707 | So are you not prepared to make an announcement tonight, | 所以,你不准备 今晚宣布, |
| 708 | opt in or not opt in? | 是否选择加入? |
| 709 | Not tonight, | 今晚别 |
| 710 | because we're continuing to digest the federal regulations, | 因为我们继续消化 联邦条例, |
| 711 | but I've also expressed my openness to this. | 但我也对此表示开放 |
| 712 | A number of governors have shut the door on it. | 一些州长已经关闭了它的门。 |
| 713 | Look, I believe in giving parents an opportunity | 你看,我相信给父母一个机会 |
| 714 | to put their kids in the best position for them to succeed. | 让他们的孩子处于最佳的地位 让他们成功 |
| 715 | All right, thank you, Governor. | 好的 谢谢你 州长 |
| 716 | Treasurer Garrity, if it were up to you, | 局长加里蒂,如果你决定 |
| 717 | would you opt in, would you not, why or why not? | 你愿意选择加入吗? |
| 718 | Day one, these are hundreds of millions of dollars | 第一天,这些是亿万美金 |
| 719 | of educational opportunity for our kids. | 我们的孩子的教育机会。 |
| 720 | I want you to think about this. | 我要你考虑一下 |
| 721 | Even California, Gavin Newsom has said he's going to opt in. | 甚至加利福尼亚州,加文·纽索姆也表示要选择加入. |
| 722 | Kathy Hochul said she is going to, Virginia has. | 凯西·霍胡尔说她要去弗吉尼亚州 |
| 723 | Even Colorado has. | 连科罗拉多州也有 |
| 724 | So this governor is just trying to score | 所以这个州长只是想得分 |
| 725 | cheap political points against the administration | 与政府对立的廉价政治点 |
| 726 | because that's what he does. | 因为他就是这么做的 |
| 727 | All right, I'm gonna give you 30 seconds | 好吧,我给你30秒 |
| 728 | for a quick rebuttal, | 以便你们立即辩驳, |
| 729 | and then we really do need to move on to the next issue. | 然后,我们确实需要继续讨论下一个问题。 |
| 730 | I mean, we received dozens and dozens of pages | 我的意思是,我们收到几十页 |
| 731 | of specific federal regulations | 联邦具体条例 |
| 732 | that we now need to marry up with our rules here | 我们现在需要结婚 与我们的规则在这里 |
| 733 | in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, | 在宾夕法尼亚联邦, |
| 734 | and also make sure that the federal program | 并确保联邦方案 |
| 735 | doesn't in any way undermine | 绝对不会破坏 |
| 736 | our robust state program of EITC and OSTC. | 我们的强力国家方案 ITC和OSTC。 |
| 737 | I think prudence here makes the most sense. | 我认为谨慎最合理 |
| 738 | We're looking at it carefully, | 我们正在仔细研究 |
| 739 | and in the next few weeks, we'll make our announcement. | 在接下来的几周里,我们将宣布我们。 |
| 740 | All right, we do need to move on to the next issue, Dennis. | 好吧,我们确实需要继续 下一个问题,丹尼斯。 |
| 741 | We now have a few questions specifically tailored | 我们现在有几个问题特别针对 |
| 742 | for each of you, and Governor Shapiro, | 你们每个人和夏皮罗州长 |
| 743 | you'll get the first couple. | 你会得到第一对夫妇。 |
| 744 | Today, as the treasurer noted, | 今天,如财长所说, |
| 745 | marks three years since the October 7th attacks | 10月7日袭击三年 |
| 746 | began a war in the Middle East. | 开始了中东的战争。 |
| 747 | You've never wavered in your support for Israel, | 你从未动摇过对以色列的支持 |
| 748 | but a recent New York Times poll shows | 但最近纽约时报的民调显示 |
| 749 | 60% of likely Democratic voters in Pennsylvania | 宾夕法尼亚州60%的可能民主党选民 |
| 750 | are not in favor of military and economic support to Israel. | 不赞成向以色列提供军事和经济支助。 |
| 751 | 60%, are 60% of Democrats wrong? | 60%,60%的民主党人错了吗? |
| 752 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 753 | Well, first off, as Governor, | 首先作为州长 |
| 754 | you don't make those decisions | 你不做这些决定 |
| 755 | on shipping weaponry overseas to any country. | 将武器运送到任何国家。 |
| 756 | I would note that here on the third anniversary | 我要指出,在第三个周年之际, |
| 757 | of the October 7th massacre, | 在10月7日的大屠杀中, |
| 758 | where Hamas, a terrorist organization, | 哈马斯,恐怖组织, |
| 759 | broke into Israel and murdered 1,200 innocents, | 闯入以色列并谋杀了1200名无辜者, |
| 760 | took over 250 hostage, including many Americans, | 绑架了250多名人质 包括许多美国人 |
| 761 | sexually assaulted scores of others. | 性攻击了几十个人 |
| 762 | This is a moment where my heart | 此时此刻,我的心 |
| 763 | stands with the people of Israel, | 与以色列人民站在一起, |
| 764 | my heart stands with the Jewish community, | 我的心和犹太社区站在一起 |
| 765 | who I know are grieving as a result of this. | 我认识的人为此而悲伤 |
| 766 | This is a moment where we need to stand together | 此时此刻我们需要团结一致 |
| 767 | against terrorism, against hate, and against anti-Semitism, | 打击恐怖主义、仇恨和反犹太主义, |
| 768 | the kind of anti-Semitism that unfortunately | 不幸的是,这种反犹太主义 |
| 769 | we have seen, not just in this Commonwealth, | 我们已经看到, 不只是在这个联邦, |
| 770 | but in this country, in the weeks and months | 但在这个国家, 在几周和几个月 |
| 771 | and now years following October 7th. | 在10月7日之后的几年里 |
| 772 | But it appears in your party | 但是在你的派对上 |
| 773 | that a growing number of Democrats | 越来越多的民主党人 |
| 774 | are against the allegiance to Israel. | 反对效忠以色列。 |
| 775 | Can you comment on that? | 你能评论一下吗? |
| 776 | You have 30 seconds. | 你有30秒钟。 |
| 777 | I've been very, very consistent in my position, | 我一直非常,非常坚持我的立场, |
| 778 | in my love of Israel, and also in my disagreements | 我对以色列的爱 以及我的分歧 |
| 779 | with the Netanyahu government. | 与内塔尼亚胡政府。 |
| 780 | The people of Israel here in another couple weeks | 几周后以色列人民在这里 |
| 781 | will determine who their leader should be. | 将决定谁是他们的领袖。 |
| 782 | I hope it's not Benjamin Netanyahu. | 我希望不是本雅明·内塔尼亚胡 |
| 783 | I think he has led Israel down a very dangerous | 我认为他已经带领以色列 下一个非常危险的 |
| 784 | and isolated path. | 和孤立的道路。 |
| 785 | I want America to have a strong relationship with Israel | 我要美国和以色列建立牢固的关系 |
| 786 | and with the Israeli government. | 和以色列政府。 |
| 787 | That's not possible right now | 现在不可能 |
| 788 | with the Netanyahu government in charge. | 由内塔尼亚胡政府负责 |
| 789 | Governor Shapiro, follow-up. | 陕西省长沙皮罗 后续. |
| 790 | Your name routinely comes up on lists | 你的名字经常出现在名单上 |
| 791 | of potential presidential candidates in 2028. | 2028年潜在总统候选人。 |
| 792 | If you win this election, that would be halfway | 如果你赢得了这次选举,那会是一半 |
| 793 | through your second term. | 在你的第二个学期。 |
| 794 | Tonight, can you commit that you would serve | 今晚,你能承诺,你会服务 |
| 795 | the full four years as governor if re-elected 30 seconds? | 如果连选连任30秒 四年的州长? |
| 796 | You know, Dennis, you've asked me this question before. | 丹尼斯 你以前问过我这个问题 |
| 797 | I think, Lisa, you may have, many others have. | 我想,丽莎,你也许有,很多其他人有。 |
| 798 | I'm gonna give you the same answer that I've given everyone. | 我要给你一个我给大家的答案 |
| 799 | The only thing I am focused on | 我唯一专注于的事情 |
| 800 | is running for re-election as governor. | 竞选连任州长 |
| 801 | And I'm focused on these midterms. | 我专注于这些中期。 |
| 802 | In trying to generate the kind of turnout | 在尝试产生投票率时 |
| 803 | and support the kind of candidates | 并支持候选人类型 |
| 804 | who will push back on the chaos, the cruelty, | 他将击退混乱和残酷, |
| 805 | and the corruption of Donald Trump, | 和唐纳德·特朗普的腐败, |
| 806 | the kind of chaos, cruelty, and corruption | 那种混乱、残酷和腐败 |
| 807 | that my opponent supports. | 我的对手支持。 |
| 808 | That is all I am focused on. | 这就是我所关注的。 |
| 809 | To be clear, though, you didn't just commit to four years, | 不过要说清楚 你不只是承诺四年 |
| 810 | to commit to do the full four years. | 承诺完成整整四年的工作。 |
| 811 | I mean, look, Dennis, there are two candidates on this stage. | 丹尼斯,这个阶段有两个候选人 |
| 812 | Only one of us has broken a pledge | 只有一个人违背了约定 |
| 813 | to serve out their full term. | 完成他们的全部任期。 |
| 814 | The treasurer made a commitment | 财阀承诺 |
| 815 | she would serve her full term as treasurer. | 她将完成她作为司库的任期。 |
| 816 | She's obviously broken that. | 她显然打破了这个。 |
| 817 | And I'm gonna do everything in my power | 我会尽我所能 |
| 818 | to ensure she's able to serve all four years as treasurer. | 保证她能当四年的司库 |
| 819 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 820 | Treasurer, I wanna give you 15 seconds or so on to that, | 财务主任,我想给你15秒左右的时间 |
| 821 | and then I have questions for you. | 然后我有问题要问你 |
| 822 | Right, so I committed the first term | 对,所以我做了第一个学期 |
| 823 | to serve all four years, so that's not true. | 所以这不是真的 |
| 824 | And if you wanna talk about chaos, cruelty, and corruption, | 如果你想谈论混乱 残酷和腐败 |
| 825 | your office knows a little bit about that. | 你的办公室对此有点了解 |
| 826 | Chaos, not passing budgets. | 混乱,不是通过预算。 |
| 827 | Cruelty, when you settle a sexual harassment case | 残酷,当你解决性骚扰案件 |
| 828 | from your top advisor for $295,000, | 从你的高级顾问 295,000美元, |
| 829 | make the young lady sign a non-disclosure agreement, | 让这位小姐签署一份保密协议 |
| 830 | and then- Okay, we're out of time on that, | 还有... 好了,我们没时间了, |
| 831 | and now I'm gonna have to come back to you. | 现在我必须回到你身边 |
| 832 | Boy, this is getting interesting. | 孩子,这越来越有趣了。 |
| 833 | I have to come back to you on the question, | 我必须回到你的问题, |
| 834 | but I wanna redirect to you, | 但我想转告你 |
| 835 | because she just brought that up. | 因为她刚刚提起的。 |
| 836 | In 2023, one of your top aides, Mike Verb, | 2023年,你的顶尖助手之一,迈克·韦伯, |
| 837 | resigned after a state worker accused him | 一个州工人告发他后辞职了 |
| 838 | of sexual harassment. | 性骚扰。 |
| 839 | Taxpayers paid $295,000 settlement, | 纳税人支付了29.5万美元, |
| 840 | and as part of that deal, | 作为交易的一部分, |
| 841 | there was a non-disclosure agreement. | 有一个不披露协议。 |
| 842 | Republicans say your administration tried to cover it up. | 共和党说,你的政府试图掩盖它。 |
| 843 | Can you address that in 30 seconds? | 你能在30秒内解决吗? |
| 844 | A complaint was made. | 提出了申诉。 |
| 845 | An independent investigation immediately began, | 立即开始了独立调查, |
| 846 | and at the conclusion of that independent investigation, | 在独立调查结束时, |
| 847 | the individual in question immediately resigned. | 此人立即辞职。 |
| 848 | Following that, my team and I came together | 之后,我的团队和我走到一起 |
| 849 | to review the policies in place. | - 审查现行政策。 |
| 850 | Should a complaint ever be made again, which none have, | 如果再有人投诉,那就没人投诉了, |
| 851 | to determine what, if anything, | 确定什么,如果有什么, |
| 852 | we would change in our policies and procedures, | 我们将改变我们的政策和程序, |
| 853 | and one of the things we recommended | 以及我们推荐的东西之一 |
| 854 | is that should it involve a high-ranking official, | 如果涉及到一个高级官员, |
| 855 | the governor would be brought into that process earlier. | 州长将更早参与这一进程。 |
| 856 | But with all due respect, | 不过恕我直言 |
| 857 | and you gotta give me a little bit longer on this. | 你得再给我一点时间 |
| 858 | With all due respect to the treasurer, | 一心奉请财主. |
| 859 | I have spent my career standing up for victims. | 我为受害者而奋斗 |
| 860 | As attorney general, as governor, | 作为总检察长,作为州长, |
| 861 | I have prosecuted pedophiles, | 我起诉过恋童癖 |
| 862 | I prosecuted predators, please. | 我起诉掠食者,请。 |
| 863 | I have to move to Treasurer Garriot. | 我得搬到Garriot财务主任那里去 |
| 864 | Thank you, Governor. | 谢谢你,州长 |
| 865 | Treasurer Garriot, for the first time in decades, | Garriot财务主任 几十年来第一次 |
| 866 | the U.S. is dealing with a measles outbreak. | 美国正在对付一场麻疹疫情 |
| 867 | No state, as you know, has more cases in Pennsylvania, | 宾夕法尼亚州没有州,你知道, 有更多的案件, |
| 868 | now over 1,000. | 现在超过一千人了 |
| 869 | While encouraging measles vaccinations, | 在鼓励麻疹疫苗接种的同时, |
| 870 | U.S. Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | 美国卫生部长小罗伯特·肯尼迪(Robert F. |
| 871 | is skeptical of many others. | 对许多人持怀疑态度。 |
| 872 | You stood with him at a Make America Healthy Again rally | 你和他站在美国健康集会上 |
| 873 | in Harrisburg. | 在哈里斯堡。 |
| 874 | He has famously broken from the medical establishment | 他从医院里破门而入 |
| 875 | with his views on most vaccines, autism, even Tylenol. | 他对大多数疫苗,自闭症,甚至泰伦诺的看法 |
| 876 | Do you share those views? | 你同意这些观点吗? |
| 877 | 90 seconds. | 90秒钟。 |
| 878 | So Dennis, as somebody that's deployed | 丹尼斯,作为部署人员 |
| 879 | three times to the Middle East, | 三次到中东, |
| 880 | I can tell you that I've been poked by more people. | 我可以告诉你,我已经 被更多的人戳。 |
| 881 | They have more people than probably anybody that I know. | 他们的人比我认识的任何人都多 |
| 882 | And I've had the MMR vaccination. | 我还接种了MMR疫苗 |
| 883 | I know it's safe. | 我知道这是安全的。 |
| 884 | I know it's effective. | 我知道这是有效的。 |
| 885 | I believe that Bobby Kennedy supports | 我相信鲍比·肯尼迪支持 |
| 886 | the measles vaccination. | 麻疹疫苗接种。 |
| 887 | And I would encourage people to get it. | 我会鼓励人们得到它。 |
| 888 | But what the governor did in the midst of these deaths, | 但州长在这些死亡中的所作所为 |
| 889 | a death of a newborn baby from a ruptured spleen, | 新生儿死于脾脏破裂, |
| 890 | the first thing he did was he ran to the camera. | 他做的第一件事就是跑到摄像机那里 |
| 891 | He didn't go console the families, right? | 他没有去安慰家人,对不对? |
| 892 | He didn't get boots on the ground, | 他没有在地上穿靴子 |
| 893 | conduct an investigation, | 进行调查, |
| 894 | and wait to announce the results until he had the facts | 并等待宣布结果 直到他知道事实 |
| 895 | because he is the least transparent governor | 因为他是最不透明的州长 |
| 896 | in modern Pennsylvania history. | 在现代宾夕法尼亚州的历史。 |
| 897 | At the same time, his Department of Health issued | 同时,他的卫生部发布了 |
| 898 | over 500 pages of proposed regulation rewrite. | 超过500页的拟议条例改写。 |
| 899 | And they were quite egregious. | 他们非常惊人。 |
| 900 | So one of them is Department of Health officials | 其中一个是卫生部的官员 |
| 901 | could go into your schools, | 可以进入你的学校, |
| 902 | talk to your kids without any parental notification, | 和你的孩子说话,没有父母通知, |
| 903 | warrantless entries into your private residence, | 进入私人住宅的无证人士 |
| 904 | your businesses, even your houses of worship. | 你的生意,甚至你的礼拜场所。 |
| 905 | And the icing on the cake is that they removed | 蛋糕上的调味料是, |
| 906 | the word pregnant mother and woman from these regulations. | 怀孕的母亲和妇女一词来自这些条例。 |
| 907 | And I wanna thank the people that are listening now | 我想感谢那些正在听的人 |
| 908 | because it's because of you | 因为是因为你 |
| 909 | and you commenting during the comment period | 而您在评论期间 |
| 910 | that they had to pull them back. | 他们不得不把他们拉回去。 |
| 911 | But if you think the COVID-19 draconian regulations, | 但如果你认为COVID -19的严格规定 |
| 912 | which he was the attorney general during that time, | 他在那段时间里是总检察长, |
| 913 | were bad, these make it look like child's play. | 很糟糕,这些看起来像是孩子的戏 |
| 914 | Your time is up. | 你的时间到了。 |
| 915 | I wanna give you a chance to respond, 30 seconds. | 我想给你一个机会 回答,30秒。 |
| 916 | My opponent stands with RFK Jr. | 我的对手是小RFK |
| 917 | I stand on the side of science. | 我站在科学的一边。 |
| 918 | Back in the year 2000, measles was eliminated | 2000年,麻疹被消灭 |
| 919 | from the United States. | 从美国。 |
| 920 | It's come roaring back because of vaccine misinformation | 因为疫苗的误传,它又回来了 |
| 921 | and disinformation. | 和谎言。 |
| 922 | Sadly, today I had to report that 1,078 Pennsylvanians | 不幸的是,今天我不得不报告 1 078名宾夕法尼亚州人 |
| 923 | have now come down with measles. | 麻疹已经流行了 |
| 924 | Five have died. | 五者已灭. |
| 925 | To the extent that there's any good news in all of this, | 只要有好消息出现 |
| 926 | it's that Pennsylvanians have done what we do best. | 宾夕法尼亚人已经做了我们最好的。 |
| 927 | We've banded together to try and protect others. | 我们联手保护别人 |
| 928 | Typically, we would inoculate 25,000 people a month. | 通常,我们每月接种25,000人。 |
| 929 | We are now doing 54,000 people a month | 我们现在每个月做54,000人 |
| 930 | with the end of the vaccine. Okay, we are out of time. | 与疫苗的结束。 好了 我们没时间了 |
| 931 | I do wanna come back to Treasurer Garrity on this topic. | 我想回到Garrity的司库那里 |
| 932 | 30 seconds, and you did stand with RFK. | 30秒,你确实站在RFK一边 |
| 933 | Is that in support of what he stands for? | 这是为了支持他所代表的吗? |
| 934 | That, no, that was in support | 不,这是支持 |
| 935 | of basically healthy eating for our kids. | 给孩子们健康地吃东西 |
| 936 | We all want a healthier lifestyle. | 我们都希望有一个健康的生活方式。 |
| 937 | And he supports a lot of things that I like, | 他支持很多我喜欢的东西, |
| 938 | but I'm fully vaccinated. | 但我已经接种了全部疫苗 |
| 939 | I believe in vaccinations. | 我相信接种疫苗 |
| 940 | 我相信MMR。 | |
| 941 | Now, the role of public officials is to get the facts, | 现在,公职人员的作用 是了解事实, |
| 942 | have an investigation, | 有个调查 |
| 943 | and then be as transparent as possible with the community. | 然后对社区尽可能透明。 |
| 944 | And I'm sorry, but transparency | 对不起,但透明 |
| 945 | is not the hallmark of this administration. | 这不是本届政府的标志。 |
| 946 | I'm gonna stay with you for a follow-up. | 我会陪着你做后续的 |
| 947 | A New York Times poll shows that President Trump | 纽约时报的民调显示,川普总统 |
| 948 | has a 34% approval rating among all likely Pennsylvania voters, | 宾夕法尼亚州所有可能的选民 都获得了34%的支持率 |
| 949 | though that number is higher, 76% among Republicans. | 虽然这个数字更高,但共和党人中76%. |
| 950 | While you are an ardent supporter of the president, | 你是总统的坚定支持者 |
| 951 | are there specific issues or policies | 是否存在具体问题或政策; |
| 952 | that you can tell us where you disagree? | 你能告诉我们你在哪里不同意? |
| 953 | 30 seconds. | 30秒钟。 |
| 954 | Sure. | 当然 |
| 955 | So first of all, I'd like to say that, | 所以,首先,我想说, |
| 956 | the governor likes to say that I've pledged | 州长喜欢说,我已经承诺 |
| 957 | this oath of loyalty to the president. | 向总统宣誓效忠 |
| 958 | Now, I wanna say that the only oath I've ever pledged | 现在,我想说,我唯一发誓过 |
| 959 | is to support the Constitution of the United States | 支持美国宪法 |
| 960 | against enemies, foreign, and domestic. | 对抗国内外的敌人。 |
| 961 | So of course, nobody, I don't think, | 所以,当然,没有人,我不认为, |
| 962 | agrees with the president 100% of the time. | 百分之百同意总统的意见。 |
| 963 | Who agrees with anybody 100% of the time? | 谁同意任何人100%的时间? |
| 964 | And tariffs would be a perfect example. | 关税将是一个很好的例子。 |
| 965 | While some tariffs have helped manufacture, some have not. | 虽然有些关税有助于制造,但有些关税没有。 |
| 966 | And then when I came from the private sector, | 我从私营部门来的时候 |
| 967 | we had targeted tariffs. | 我们有目标关税。 |
| 968 | Miscellaneous tariff bill, and what that meant, | 杂项关税账单以及这意味着什么, |
| 969 | if raw materials were not available domestically, | 如果国内没有原材料, |
| 970 | you could apply for a waiver. | 你可以申请豁免。 |
| 971 | Okay, at the time, Lisa. | 好吧,在当时,丽莎。 |
| 972 | All right, we are going to switch gears here now. | 好了,我们现在要换齿轮了 |
| 973 | This next question is one I think sports fans | 下一个问题,我想是体育爱好者 |
| 974 | all over the state will wanna hear. | 整个州都会想听 |
| 975 | A Treasury, a Treasurer Garrity, we're gonna stay with you. | 一个财政部,一个司库加里蒂, 我们要和你在一起。 |
| 976 | There is talk of new stadiums for the Pittsburgh Steelers | 有人说匹兹堡钢铁队有新球场 |
| 977 | and the Philadelphia Eagles. | 还有费城老鹰队 |
| 978 | The existing ones received hundreds of millions | 现有几亿 |
| 979 | of public dollars. | 公费 |
| 980 | Both leases expire soon, and fans are worried | 两个租期都快到期了 粉丝很担心 |
| 981 | that the teams may not, may decide to put in new stadiums | 球队不得,可决定设置新球场 |
| 982 | outside of the cities, hurting those cities financially. | 在城市之外,在经济上伤害了这些城市。 |
| 983 | So, Treasurer Garrity, would you commit to spending | 所以,Garrity财务主任,你会承诺花费 |
| 984 | public tax dollars on new stadiums | 新体育场的公共税元 |
| 985 | to ensure that they stay put? | 让他们留在原地? |
| 986 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 987 | So, I don't think that we need to be giving | 所以,我不认为我们需要给予 |
| 988 | taxpayer dollars to billionaire owners. | 纳税人给亿万富翁的美元 |
| 989 | I don't think we should be picking winners and losers. | 我觉得我们不应该挑赢家和输家 |
| 990 | I'm on the side of taxpayers. | 我站在纳税人一边 |
| 991 | And if they came and they had a proposal | 如果他们来了, 他们有一个建议 |
| 992 | and it was something that we could work out | 这件事情我们可以解决 |
| 993 | and it was a win-win, certainly I would be open to it. | 这是双赢的 我当然愿意接受 |
| 994 | But right now, particularly now, | 但现在,尤其是现在, |
| 995 | when Pennsylvanians are hurting, | 当宾夕法尼亚人受伤时 |
| 996 | I don't think that billionaire owners | 我不认为那个亿万富翁的主人 |
| 997 | need Pennsylvania taxpayer dollars to build new stadiums. | 需要宾夕法尼亚州纳税人美元 来建造新的体育场 |
| 998 | All right, Governor Shapiro, same question to you. | 好的,沙皮罗州长,你也是 |
| 999 | Would you commit to spending state taxpayer dollars | 你会承诺花 国家纳税人美元 |
| 1000 | on new stadiums to keep the Steelers in Pittsburgh | 在新体育场上让钢人留在匹兹堡 |
| 1001 | and the Eagles in Philadelphia? | 还有费城的鹰队? |
| 1002 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 1003 | Well, I won't commit to spending taxpayer dollars | 我不会花纳税人的钱 |
| 1004 | to support any of those owners until I hear from them | 直到我听到他们的声音 |
| 1005 | what their plans are. | 他们的计划是什么。 |
| 1006 | I've made very, very clear, for example, | 我非常,非常清楚,比如说, |
| 1007 | with the Philadelphia 76ers and the Philadelphia Flyers | 费城76人和费城飞船 |
| 1008 | who want to build a new arena, | 他们想要建立一个新的舞台, |
| 1009 | they're not gonna get any public money from me | 他们不会从我这里得到任何公款 |
| 1010 | and they're instead going at it with just private dollars. | 而他们却只拿私人的钱去买 |
| 1011 | I've had conversations with the owners | 我跟店主谈过了 |
| 1012 | of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the owner | 匹兹堡钢铁厂老板 |
| 1013 | of the Philadelphia Eagles, | 费城鹰队的 |
| 1014 | and I've made clear that the number one concern for me | 并且我已经明确了 我最关心的 |
| 1015 | is protecting Pennsylvania tax dollars, | 保护宾夕法尼亚州税元, |
| 1016 | and I'll continue to work with them, | 我会继续和他们合作, |
| 1017 | to keep them here in the state, | 让他们留在州里 |
| 1018 | but to be a strong protector of our Pennsylvania taxpayers. | 但成为宾夕法尼亚州纳税人的有力保护者 |
| 1019 | All right, 15 seconds clarification, | 好吧,15秒澄清, |
| 1020 | because I want to know specifically | 因为我特别想知道 |
| 1021 | with the Steelers and the Eagles, | 与钢人和鹰, |
| 1022 | will you commit to keeping them, | 你会承诺保存他们, |
| 1023 | to giving state tax dollars, to keeping them where they are? | 给州税钱 把它们藏起来? |
| 1024 | I know you're saying that they're open to it, | 我知道你在说他们愿意接受 |
| 1025 | but where do you actually stand as far as what happens next? | 但接下来发生的事你到底站在哪? |
| 1026 | Where I stand is that on my watch, | 我的立场是,在我的表, |
| 1027 | the Steelers will remain in Pittsburgh, | 钢人将留在匹兹堡 |
| 1028 | the Eagles will remain in Philadelphia, period. | 鹰队将留在费城,期间。 |
| 1029 | And as I've shown with the Sixers and Flyers scenario, | 正如我所显示的,六人和飞行者的情况, |
| 1030 | you can do that without providing tax dollars | 你可以不提供税元 |
| 1031 | in order to make that happen. | 为了实现这一点。 |
| 1032 | Yeah, Governor Shapiro, a 30 second follow-up on this, | 沙皮罗州长,30秒后跟进 |
| 1033 | a new basketball and hockey arena, | 一个新的篮球和曲棍球赛场, |
| 1034 | what you reference was 100% privately funded. | 你提到的是100%的私人资助。 |
| 1035 | So what is the difference between the two deals? | 那么这两个交易有什么区别? |
| 1036 | Are you saying that the Steelers and the Eagles | 你是说钢人和老鹰 |
| 1037 | will have to be privately funded, | 需要私人资助, |
| 1038 | or will there be state dollars, 30 seconds? | 或者会有30秒的美元? |
| 1039 | First off, without getting too far in the weeds, | 首先,不要在杂草里走得太远 |
| 1040 | the buildings are just in a different posture. | 建筑处于不同的状态 |
| 1041 | The buildings in Pittsburgh, both where the Pirates play | 匹兹堡的建筑物 海盗队都在那里玩 |
| 1042 | and where the Steelers play, are publicly owned buildings. | 钢人玩的地方是公有建筑 |
| 1043 | There is a private ownership deal | 有私人所有权交易 |
| 1044 | of the Philadelphia buildings, | 费城建筑, |
| 1045 | and so it's somewhat apples and oranges. | 还有苹果和橙子 |
| 1046 | The bottom line here is this, | 这里的底线是, |
| 1047 | I'm gonna keep these teams in Pennsylvania, | 我要把这些球队留在宾夕法尼亚州 |
| 1048 | I'm gonna protect taxpayer dollars, | 我会保护纳税人的钱 |
| 1049 | and I'm gonna make sure that fans have a great | 我会确保 球迷有一个伟大的 |
| 1050 | and affordable experience when they go to the arenas. | 以及他们去竞技场时能承受得起的经验。 |
| 1051 | All right, we are gonna move on to our next issue. | 好吧,我们接下来再谈下一期 |
| 1052 | Our next question's around the issue of election integrity, | 我们的下一个问题 围绕着选举诚信的问题, |
| 1053 | which has been an ongoing discussion, | 这是不断的讨论, |
| 1054 | both in the United States and in Pennsylvania. | 在美国和宾夕法尼亚州都有 |
| 1055 | Governor Shapiro, polls have consistently shown | 沙皮罗州长 民调一直显示 |
| 1056 | a majority of voters, both Republican and Democrat, | 多数选民,包括共和党和民主党, |
| 1057 | support some sort of voter ID requirement. | 支持某种选民身份要求。 |
| 1058 | Do you share that belief? | 你也有这种信念吗? |
| 1059 | Why or why not? | 为什么? |
| 1060 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 1061 | I've made very clear that, I've said this to Democrats | 我对民主党说得很清楚 |
| 1062 | and Republicans in the legislature, | 和共和党在立法机构, |
| 1063 | I'm open to putting a voter ID bill on my desk | 我愿意把选民身份证单放在我桌上 |
| 1064 | for my signature. | 为了我的签名。 |
| 1065 | But it can't be based on the kind of conspiracy theories | 但不能以阴谋论为依据 |
| 1066 | that my opponent and others continue to this day to spew. | 我的对手和其他人一直持续到今天 |
| 1067 | It's gotta be based on fact, and it's gotta ensure | 它必须基于事实, 它必须确保 |
| 1068 | that we are enfranchising voters in Pennsylvania, | 我们在宾夕法尼亚州拥有选举权, |
| 1069 | not disenfranchising them. | 而不是剥夺他们的权利。 |
| 1070 | You know, Dennis, you'll recall I was the attorney general | 你知道,丹尼斯,你会记得我是总检察长 |
| 1071 | for a number of years before serving as governor. | 在担任州长之前的几年里 |
| 1072 | And I was the attorney general in the 2020 election, | 我是2020年选举的总检察长 |
| 1073 | when Donald Trump and his enablers, including my opponent, | 当唐纳德·特朗普和他的推动者 包括我的对手 |
| 1074 | sued us 43 different times to try and throw out | 起诉我们43次不同的时间 尝试和抛弃 |
| 1075 | the votes of the good people of Pennsylvania. | 宾夕法尼亚州好人的选票 |
| 1076 | While I was in court in Bucks County, | 当我在巴克斯郡的法庭上时 |
| 1077 | trying to protect the votes of those voters in Bucks County, | 试图保护巴克斯县选民的选票, |
| 1078 | my opponent was trying to throw out | 我的对手想扔出去 |
| 1079 | about 7,000 of those votes. | 其中约7000票。 |
| 1080 | More recently, I took Donald Trump to court. | 最近,我把唐纳德·特朗普送上法庭. |
| 1081 | When he tried to make it so you couldn't vote by mail | 当他试图做到这一点,所以你不能通过邮件投票 |
| 1082 | here in the Commonwealth or across the country, | 在联邦或全国各地, |
| 1083 | I won, Donald Trump lost again, | 我赢了,唐纳德·特朗普又输了 |
| 1084 | and your right to vote is protected. | 你的投票权受到保护。 |
| 1085 | The next governor of this Commonwealth | 下任联邦总督 |
| 1086 | is going to have to decide who to certify | 将不得不决定谁认证 |
| 1087 | in the presidential election of 2028. | 在2028年的总统选举中. |
| 1088 | I'll certify whoever the people choose. | 我会证明任何人们选择的人 |
| 1089 | I don't know that we can say the same about my opponent | 我不知道,我们可以说 同样我的对手 |
| 1090 | who takes her direction on these matters | 谁是她的方向 这些问题 |
| 1091 | seemingly from Donald Trump. | 似乎来自唐纳德·特朗普。 |
| 1092 | Well, let's check with her, | 好吧,让我们检查她, |
| 1093 | and we'll give you a 30-second rebuttal on that claim. | 我们会给你30秒的反驳 |
| 1094 | Yeah, that's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. | 是啊,这是最荒谬的事情 我听说过。 |
| 1095 | I don't even know why you'd say that | 我都不知道你为什么这么说 |
| 1096 | and how you can look yourself in the mirror at night. | 晚上如何在镜子里看着自己 |
| 1097 | No. | 没有 |
| 1098 | It's the facts of your record. | 这是你记录的事实 |
| 1099 | No, it's not the facts of my record. | 不,这不是我记录的事实。 |
| 1100 | It is absolutely not the facts of my record. | 这绝对不是我记录的事实。 |
| 1101 | Okay, 30 seconds, I want to move on to you. | 好吧,30秒,我想继续你。 |
| 1102 | Okay. | 摆 |
| 1103 | You have said you would have complied | 你说过你会服从的 |
| 1104 | with President Trump's request to turn over voter rolls. | 特朗普总统要求交出选民名单 |
| 1105 | Do you have reason to believe right now | 你现在有理由相信吗? |
| 1106 | that Pennsylvania's elections are not secure? | 宾夕法尼亚州的选举不安全? |
| 1107 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 1108 | I think that there are always situations | 我觉得总是有情况 |
| 1109 | that you hear about in the Southeast, in Luzerne County. | 在东南卢泽恩县,你所听到的。 |
| 1110 | There's always some shenanigans, | 总是有一些怪人, |
| 1111 | but I am not saying that, you know, | 但我不是说,你知道, |
| 1112 | I would implement voter ID, Dennis. | 我会执行选民证,丹尼斯 |
| 1113 | I mean, absolutely. | 我的意思是,绝对的。 |
| 1114 | And the governor has consistently said, | 州长一直说, |
| 1115 | use the excuse that he can't do anything | 用他无能的借口 |
| 1116 | because he has a divided legislature. | 因为他有 分裂的立法机构。 |
| 1117 | Well, that's not what real leadership is. | 嗯,这不是真正的领导地位。 |
| 1118 | Real leadership, they call the leaders to the table, | 真正的领导者,他们叫 领导人在桌面上, |
| 1119 | and you negotiate. | 你谈判。 |
| 1120 | You get around the table, | 你绕到桌子上 |
| 1121 | you talk to the biggest stakeholders, | 你和最大的股东说话, |
| 1122 | and you see what would be, you know, | 你看会是什么,你知道, |
| 1123 | the barriers to doing this. | 这样做的障碍。 |
| 1124 | And to say that voter ID | 说选民身份证 |
| 1125 | would somehow disenfranchise somebody, | 会剥夺某人的权利 |
| 1126 | you have to have ID to get anything, | 你必须要有身份证才能得到任何东西, |
| 1127 | to get a prescription, to get on a plane, | 得到处方 上飞机 |
| 1128 | to get a hotel room, to buy alcohol. | 买个酒店房间 买酒 |
| 1129 | So that's ridiculous. | 这太荒谬了 |
| 1130 | Governor Shapiro, I want to give you 30 seconds | 沙皮罗州长,我想给你30秒 |
| 1131 | because there is a repeated claim that you often say, | 因为你经常说 |
| 1132 | I'm open to something, and some critics say, | 我对一些东西持开放态度 有些批评者说 |
| 1133 | you should be more aggressively leading on it | 你应该更加积极地领导它 |
| 1134 | since you are the governor. | 因为你是州长 |
| 1135 | That's basically what she just said. | 她就是这么说的 |
| 1136 | 30 seconds. | 30秒钟。 |
| 1137 | I do aggressively lead on this issue. | 我在这个问题上确实很积极。 |
| 1138 | I've pushed Democrats to be open to it, | 我推动民主党人开放 |
| 1139 | and I've asked Republicans to actually send me a bill | 我要求共和党人给我寄一份法案 |
| 1140 | that doesn't force people off the rolls | 这不会强迫人们离开 |
| 1141 | who are otherwise legal, eligible voters. | 在其他方面合法、有资格的选民。 |
| 1142 | Listen, Dennis, I've prosecuted voter fraud cases | 听着,丹尼斯,我已经起诉了选举舞弊案 |
| 1143 | as attorney general. | 作为总检察长。 |
| 1144 | And as it relates to the administration's claims | 和它有关 行政部门的索赔 |
| 1145 | about our voter rolls, they made outrageous claims | 关于我们的选民名单, 他们提出令人发指的说法 |
| 1146 | that there were thousands and thousands | 成千上万人 |
| 1147 | of illegal, eligible, ineligible, pardon me, voters. | 非法的,有资格的,不合格的, 原谅我,选民。 |
| 1148 | We asked them for the information. | 我们要求他们提供情报。 |
| 1149 | We asked them to show us the facts, | 我们要求他们告诉我们事实 |
| 1150 | and of course they didn't. | 当然他们没有 |
| 1151 | I'm gonna continue to stand up to ensure | 我将继续站起来确保 |
| 1152 | that legal, eligible voters can vote by mail or in person. | 合法、合格的选民可以通过邮寄或亲自投票。 |
| 1153 | Thank you, Governor. | 谢谢你,州长 |
| 1154 | Lisa, next question. | 丽莎,下一个问题。 |
| 1155 | All right, on to the next issue. | 好吧,接下来的一期。 |
| 1156 | Over the past week, a botched execution in Tennessee | 在过去的一周里,田纳西州的死刑被玩弄 |
| 1157 | has reignited the national debate over the death penalty. | 重新引发了全国关于死刑的辩论。 |
| 1158 | Pennsylvania has 94 inmates on death row, | 宾夕法尼亚州有94个死囚 |
| 1159 | but the state has not put anyone to death since 1995. | 但自1995年以来,国家没有将任何人处死。 |
| 1160 | Treasurer Garrity, where do you stand on the death penalty? | Garrity财务主任 你对死刑有什么看法? |
| 1161 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 1162 | I support the law that's on the books. | 我支持书上的法律 |
| 1163 | And I'll tell you what the governor does not support. | 我会告诉你州长不支持什么 |
| 1164 | So we have second degree felony murders | 所以我们有二级重罪谋杀案 |
| 1165 | that the state Supreme Court ruled | 州最高法院裁定 |
| 1166 | that it was unconstitutional to sentence them | 判决他们违宪 |
| 1167 | to life without parole. | 不得假释 |
| 1168 | So the Supreme Court gave the legislature | 所以最高法院给了立法机构 |
| 1169 | four months to rectify it. | 4个月来纠正它。 |
| 1170 | This governor, who used to be | 这个州长,曾经是 |
| 1171 | the chief law enforcement officer, | 首席执法人员, |
| 1172 | where was he in all of this? | 这一切中他在哪里? |
| 1173 | He was missing in action. | 他失踪了 |
| 1174 | And so now what we risk, | 所以现在我们冒着风险 |
| 1175 | because the deadline came and passed, | 因为期限已经过去, |
| 1176 | he did not tell the legislature to get this fixed. | 他没有告诉立法机构 把这个修好。 |
| 1177 | He didn't say a word about it. | 他没有说一个字。 |
| 1178 | So now what we risk is over 1,200 convicted people | 所以现在我们的风险是1200多人被定罪 |
| 1179 | of second degree felony murder | 二级重罪谋杀 |
| 1180 | being released on the streets | 在街头被释放 |
| 1181 | and re-victimizing their families. | 并使他们的家人再次受害。 |
| 1182 | All right, I'm gonna give the governor 30 seconds to respond | 好,我给州长30秒后回复 |
| 1183 | because this is an issue that affects people all across, | 因为这问题影响着所有人, |
| 1184 | and there are cases all across the Commonwealth. | 整个英联邦都有案例 |
| 1185 | Well, first off, that's literally not true. | 首先 这不是真的 |
| 1186 | It's not how the law works. | 非法界之所为. |
| 1187 | What would happen in the absence | 缺席时会发生什么 |
| 1188 | of lawmakers coming together? | 立法者们聚集一堂? |
| 1189 | The House passed a bill, the Senate passed a bill. | 众议院通过法案,参议院通过法案. |
| 1190 | They're still working through their differences. | 他们仍然在努力克服他们的分歧. |
| 1191 | Hopefully they'll get that bill to my desk | 希望他们能把账单交给我 |
| 1192 | before the end of the year. | 年终前。 |
| 1193 | But in the absence of that, | 但是,如果没有这个, |
| 1194 | a court would make a determination | 法院将作出裁定 |
| 1195 | as to whether or not the sentence should be upheld | 关于是否维持判决 |
| 1196 | or whether or not this sentence | 或是否该句 |
| 1197 | should be mitigated in some way. | 应该以某种方式减轻损失。 |
| 1198 | No one's being released. | 无人解脱. |
| 1199 | And frankly, it's dangerous for you to suggest that, | 坦白地说,你暗示这很危险 |
| 1200 | and it's irresponsible for you to suggest that. | 你这样暗示是不负责任的 |
| 1201 | That's not how the law works. | 诸法非此. |
| 1202 | All right, I'll give you a 30 second rebuttal | 好吧,我给你30秒钟的反驳 |
| 1203 | to you as well, Treasurer Garrity. | 也敬你,司库加里蒂 |
| 1204 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 1205 | So yes, they can petition to be released, | 是的,他们可以请求释放 |
| 1206 | and we do risk their sentences being commuted, | 我们确实冒着被减刑的风险 |
| 1207 | them being out on the streets, | 他们在街头, |
| 1208 | and again, families of victims just being re-victimized. | 受害者家属再次受害。 |
| 1209 | And that's awful. | 这是可怕的。 |
| 1210 | I stand with families and I stand with the victims, | 我和家人站在一起 我和受害者站在一起 |
| 1211 | and the governor did not call the legislature back | 州长没有召回立法机构 |
| 1212 | to get this issue fixed. | 来解决这个问题。 |
| 1213 | They had four months to do it. | 他们有四个月的时间去做 |
| 1214 | The state senate passed a bipartisan bill. | 州参议院通过两党法案. |
| 1215 | And so he, if he really stands with victims, | 所以如果他真的和受害者站在一起的话 |
| 1216 | he should call the state house back | 他应该给州政府回电话 |
| 1217 | and tell them to pass the bipartisan bill | 告诉他们通过两党法案 |
| 1218 | from the state senate. | 从州参议院。 |
| 1219 | We have a question for you, | 我们有一个问题要问你, |
| 1220 | and you can add on if you would like to address this as well. | 如果你也想讨论这个问题,你可以补充。 |
| 1221 | Governor Shapiro, you have called | 沙皮罗州长,你打电话来了 |
| 1222 | for abolishing the death penalty. | 废除死刑。 |
| 1223 | How big a priority would it be for you in your second term? | 你第二个学期有多重要? |
| 1224 | You have 90 seconds. | 你有90秒钟。 |
| 1225 | I have made clear that the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania | 我明确表示,宾夕法尼亚州联邦 |
| 1226 | should not be in the business of putting people to death. | 不应从事使人死亡的事业。 |
| 1227 | We see what's happening in Tennessee right now | 我们现在看到田纳西州发生的事 |
| 1228 | is yet another example of that. | 这是这方面的另一个例子。 |
| 1229 | Look, this is an issue that I've evolved on. | 你看,这是一个问题 我已经进化。 |
| 1230 | I ran for attorney general twice | 我竞选了两次总检察长 |
| 1231 | in support of the death penalty | 支持死刑 |
| 1232 | and the most heinous of cases. | 和最令人发指的案件。 |
| 1233 | And then when those cases would reach my desk | 然后当那些案子会到我的办公桌 |
| 1234 | more and more, I found that I was unable | 我越来越发现我无法 |
| 1235 | to pursue capital punishment. | 追求死刑。 |
| 1236 | I didn't think it was morally justified. | 我觉得这在道德上没有道理 |
| 1237 | It wasn't until a conversation | 直到谈话 |
| 1238 | with my then 10-year-old son, Max, | 与我当时10岁的儿子,马克思, |
| 1239 | when he looked me in the eye and he said, | 当他看着我的眼睛,他说, |
| 1240 | Dad, we don't have the death penalty here | 爸爸,这里没有死刑 |
| 1241 | in Pennsylvania, do we? | 在宾夕法尼亚,是吗? |
| 1242 | And I said, we do, and it's reserved | 我说,我们有,这是预留的 |
| 1243 | for the most heinous of cases. | 对于最令人发指的案件。 |
| 1244 | And Max said to me, Dad, I understand how killing someone | Max对我说 爸爸 我明白怎么杀人 |
| 1245 | as a punishment for them killing someone | 作为他们杀人的惩罚 |
| 1246 | somehow makes anything better. | 不知何故能令一切众生得益. |
| 1247 | About two weeks into my term as governor, | 在我担任州长两周后 |
| 1248 | an execution warrant was placed on my desk | 我桌上有处决令 |
| 1249 | and I couldn't sign it. | 我不能签 |
| 1250 | I put a moratorium in place | 我已经暂停了 |
| 1251 | and I explained to the good people of Pennsylvania | 我向宾夕法尼亚的好人解释了 |
| 1252 | how I've evolved on this issue. | 我是如何进化 在这个问题上。 |
| 1253 | And I called the Republican leaders in the Senate | 我打电话给参议院的共和党领袖 |
| 1254 | and the Democratic leaders in the House | 和众领袖, |
| 1255 | and urged them not to reform the death penalty, | 并敦促他们不要改革死刑, |
| 1256 | but to end the death penalty here in Pennsylvania. | 但是在宾夕法尼亚结束死刑 |
| 1257 | The state should not be in the business | 国家不该插手 |
| 1258 | of putting people to death. | 将人处死 |
| 1259 | All right, we are running out of time. | 好了,我们没时间了 |
| 1260 | Dennis? | 丹尼斯吗? |
| 1261 | Dennis, we've come to the end of our debate fast hour. | 丹尼斯,我们很快就要结束辩论了 |
| 1262 | Before we go though, we'll give you 60 seconds | 在出发前,我们给你60秒 |
| 1263 | to wrap up with a closing statement, | 最后发表闭幕词, |
| 1264 | Treasurer Garrity, by random draw. | 司库加里蒂,随机抽取。 |
| 1265 | You are up first, you have 60 seconds. | 你先上去,你还有60秒 |
| 1266 | Okay, thanks Dennis. | 好吧,谢谢丹尼斯。 |
| 1267 | So friends, we have so many blessings. | 朋友们,我们有很多祝福 |
| 1268 | We are blessed with the best, hardest working people, | 我们得到最好的,最艰苦的劳动人民, |
| 1269 | world-class industries, natural resources | 世界级工业、自然资源 |
| 1270 | that are the envy of the world. | 这是世界的嫉妒。 |
| 1271 | So why are we falling behind? | 我们为什么落后? |
| 1272 | Pennsylvania has a 25% higher inflation rate | 宾夕法尼亚州通货膨胀率高25% |
| 1273 | than the national average. | 比全国平均水平高。 |
| 1274 | We have the fifth highest tax burden in the nation. | 我国税收负担居全国第五位. |
| 1275 | And governor's been in charge for four years | 州长负责了四年 |
| 1276 | and he can't continue to blame other people. | 他不能继续责怪别人 |
| 1277 | Not for his spending, not for the failures, | 不为他的开支, 不为失败, |
| 1278 | and not for his scandals. | 而不是为他的丑闻。 |
| 1279 | $295,000, we talked about this earlier. | 295,000美元,我们之前谈过了。 |
| 1280 | Taxpayer-funded sexual harassment settlement. | 纳税人出资解决性骚扰问题. |
| 1281 | Retaliation against whistleblowers. | 报复举报人. |
| 1282 | Serious concerns about the cover-up of a murder | 对掩盖谋杀案的严重关切 |
| 1283 | of a Philadelphia woman. | 费城女人 |
| 1284 | Pennsylvanians deserve better. | 宾夕法尼亚人应该得到更好的待遇。 |
| 1285 | If you're happy with high taxes, a weak economy, | 如果你对高税,弱的经济很满意 |
| 1286 | and backdoor deals in Harrisburg, he's your guy. | 和后门交易在哈里斯堡, 他是你的家伙。 |
| 1287 | But if you believe like me, | 但是如果你像我一样相信 |
| 1288 | that it doesn't have to be this way | 没必要这样 |
| 1289 | and Pennsylvania's best days are ahead, | 宾夕法尼亚州最好的日子就要到了 |
| 1290 | then please vote for me on November 3rd, thank you. | 那就请在11月3日投给我 谢谢 |
| 1291 | Time is up, Governor Shapiro, your closing statement | 时间到了 沙皮罗州长 你的闭幕词 |
| 1292 | and you have 60 seconds now. | 你现在有60秒了 |
| 1293 | I believe every Pennsylvanian should have the freedom | 我相信每一个宾夕法尼亚人都应该有自由 |
| 1294 | to chart their own course | 绘制自己的航向 |
| 1295 | and the opportunity to succeed. | 和成功的机会。 |
| 1296 | Four years ago, I was sworn in on a stack of Bibles. | 四年前,我发誓要上一堆圣经 |
| 1297 | I was not given a magic wand that day to solve every problem, | 那天我没有得到魔杖 来解决每一个问题 |
| 1298 | but I was given a unique opportunity as the 48th governor | 但是作为第48任州长 我得到了一个独特的机会 |
| 1299 | to help solve problems, to help bring people together | 帮助解决问题,帮助人们团结起来 |
| 1300 | and get stuff done. | 把事情办好 |
| 1301 | I see it every day as I crisscross Pennsylvania. | 我每天都在穿越宾夕法尼亚 |
| 1302 | I see it with the farmer, the dairy farmer, | 我看到它与农民, 奶农, |
| 1303 | who now has a lifetime of opportunity ahead of him | 他现在有一生的机会 |
| 1304 | because we landed the Chobani deal | 因为我们达成了乔巴尼协议 |
| 1305 | and increased dairy production by 30%. | 奶制品产量增加了30%。 |
| 1306 | I see it in the apprentice who pulled me aside | 我在那个把我拉到一边的徒弟身上看到过 |
| 1307 | and told me how proud he was of his job | 并告诉我他有多骄傲 他的工作 |
| 1308 | and his ability now to be able to buy a truck. | 他现在有能力买辆卡车 |
| 1309 | I see it with the excited teacher | 我看见那个激动的老师 |
| 1310 | who got a student teacher stipend | 有学生教师津贴 |
| 1311 | and is now teaching here in our Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | 现在在宾夕法尼亚联邦教书 |
| 1312 | I'm proud of what we've gotten done together. | 我为我们一起做的事感到骄傲 |
| 1313 | I'm mindful that we have a lot more work to do | 我意识到我们还有很多工作要做 |
| 1314 | and tonight, I respectfully ask you for your vote | 今晚,我恭敬地请求你投票 |
| 1315 | for another term as your governor. | 换个州长 |
| 1316 | Governor Shapiro, Treasurer Garrity, | 沙皮罗州长,加里蒂 |
| 1317 | thank you both very much for being with us tonight | 非常感谢你们今晚和我们在一起 |
| 1318 | and we wanna thank everyone who's been watching at home. | 我们想感谢所有在家看节目的人 |
| 1319 | All right, your last day to register to vote is October 19th. | 好吧,你登记投票的最后一天是10月19日。 |
| 1320 | The deadline to request a mail-in ballot is October 27th. | 要求邮寄选票的截止日期为10月27日. |
| 1321 | You will need to have it at the county elections office | 县选举办公室需要它 |
| 1322 | by 8 p.m. on election day, which is November 3rd. | 选举日是11月3日,下午8时前举行。 |
| 1323 | Polls are open between 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. | 投票时间为上午7时至下午8时。 |
| 1324 | and don't forget, election day is November 3rd. | 别忘了 选举日是11月3日 |
| 1325 | That does it for the Pennsylvania governor's debate. | 宾夕法尼亚州州长的辩论就是这样 |
| 1326 | Thanks again, have a great night. | 再次感谢,有一个伟大的夜晚。 |
| 1327 | Tindall. | 廷德尔 |
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