桑德斯召开新闻发布会反对舒默连任党内领袖 | 2026.11
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:01 | It was an election in which the American people said loudly and clearly. | 这是一次选举,美国人民在选举中大声和明确地说。 |
| 0:06 | They are tired of a president who lies all the time, who undermines our Constitution | 他们厌倦了总统 一直撒谎 破坏我们的宪法 |
| 0:14 | and the rule of law, who is a narcissist and who thinks that he can do anything he wants. | 和法制,谁是一个自恋者,谁认为他可以做任何他想要的。 |
| 0:24 | But it was also something else. | 但它也是别的东西。 |
| 0:27 | It was an election across the country, in red states and blue states, where people were | 这是一次全国的选举, 在红色的州和蓝色的州, |
| 0:35 | talking around them and saying, what is going on in America when I am struggling to put | 在他们周围闲谈,说, 发生了什么事 在美国,当我挣扎着 |
| 0:42 | food on the table, pay for health care, pay for housing, and I'm worried not only that | 食物放在桌上, 支付医疗费, 支付住房费, 我很担心... |
| 0:50 | my life economically is going nowhere, everything being equal, my kid in the richest country | 我的经济生活一去不复返,一切平等,我的孩子在最富有的国家 |
| 0:55 | in the history of the world is going to have a lower standard of living than I do. | 世界历史上的生活水平会比我低 |
| 1:00 | And while all of this is going on, the billionaire class has never ever had it so good. | 当这一切正在发生的时候, 亿万富翁的班级从来没有这么好过。 |
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| 1 | It was an election in which the American people said loudly and clearly. | 这是一次选举,美国人民在选举中大声和明确地说。 |
| 2 | They are tired of a president who lies all the time, who undermines our Constitution | 他们厌倦了总统 一直撒谎 破坏我们的宪法 |
| 3 | and the rule of law, who is a narcissist and who thinks that he can do anything he wants. | 和法制,谁是一个自恋者,谁认为他可以做任何他想要的。 |
| 4 | But it was also something else. | 但它也是别的东西。 |
| 5 | It was an election across the country, in red states and blue states, where people were | 这是一次全国的选举, 在红色的州和蓝色的州, |
| 6 | talking around them and saying, what is going on in America when I am struggling to put | 在他们周围闲谈,说, 发生了什么事 在美国,当我挣扎着 |
| 7 | food on the table, pay for health care, pay for housing, and I'm worried not only that | 食物放在桌上, 支付医疗费, 支付住房费, 我很担心... |
| 8 | my life economically is going nowhere, everything being equal, my kid in the richest country | 我的经济生活一去不复返,一切平等,我的孩子在最富有的国家 |
| 9 | in the history of the world is going to have a lower standard of living than I do. | 世界历史上的生活水平会比我低 |
| 10 | And while all of this is going on, the billionaire class has never ever had it so good. | 当这一切正在发生的时候, 亿万富翁的班级从来没有这么好过。 |
| 11 | We have more income and wealth inequality today than we've ever had in the history of | 我们今天的收入和财富不平等 超过我们历史上曾经有过的 |
| 12 | the country. | 国家。 |
| 13 | Mr. Musk himself owning more wealth than the bottom 53% of American households. | 穆斯克先生自己拥有的财富比美国底层53%的家庭还要多. |
| 14 | So if this campaign was about anything, it was about change. | 所以,如果这场运动是为了什么,那就是变革。 |
| 15 | And the need for the Democratic Party, in my view, to move in a new and bold direction. | 而民主党在我看来,需要向一个新的大胆的方向前进. |
| 16 | 我个人认识Chuck Schumer30多年了 | |
| 17 | And I like Chuck, nobody who works harder than Chuck Schumer. | 我喜欢查克 没有人比查克·舒默更努力 |
| 18 | But in my view, the time is now for change, and I will not be supporting Chuck to be re-elected | 但我认为 现在是时候改变, 我不会支持查克连任 |
| 19 | as the Democratic leader. | 作为民主党领袖. |
| 20 | And I think as Senator Slotkin is going to get to in a moment, we need a process. | 我想斯洛特金参议员马上就要到了 我们需要一个过程 |
| 21 | We need a vigorous debate about the direction of the Democratic Party. | 我们需要对民主党的方向进行激烈的辩论. |
| 22 | I have my ideas, so this is used maybe different. | 我有我的想法,所以这个用法也许不同。 |
| 23 | But we need to have that out in the open to show the American people that a new day has | 但我们需要公开的 向美国人民展示新的一天 |
| 24 | come and that their votes meant a new direction in Washington. | 他们的投票意味着华盛顿的新方向 |
| 25 | Listen. | 听着 |
| 26 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 27 | Hi, everybody. | 大家好,你们好 |
| 28 | I mean, I think it is very clear that on election night, the American people voted for change | 我的意思是,我认为非常清楚的是,在选举之夜, 美国人民投票支持变革 |
| 29 | and they voted for their pocketbooks, and they're exhausted by costs and corruption. | 他们投票给他们的袖珍书, 和他们耗尽的成本和腐败。 |
| 30 | And I think we need to hear that. | 我认为我们需要听到这一点。 |
| 31 | I think whoever wants to run this caucus should come forward with a plan on how they're going | 我想无论谁想管理这个核心小组 都应该提出一个计划 |
| 32 | to govern differently, what they're going to do in the first 100 days to put money in | 以不同的管理方式, 他们将在头100天做什么 把钱投入 |
| 33 | people's pockets, and then in particular, how they're going to communicate differently. | 人们的口袋, 特别是,他们是如何去 不同的沟通。 |
| 34 | I am not actively seeking this job. | 我没有积极寻求这份工作。 |
| 35 | I am seeking change. | 我寻求改变。 |
| 36 | I've been very consistent for a very long time that we need a new generation of leadership. | 长期以来,我一直很坚持,我们需要新一代的领导. |
| 37 | I said it before when I served in the House. | 我之前在众议院服役时说过 |
| 38 | I said it about Joe Biden, and I'm saying it here. | 我说的是乔・拜登,我在这里说。 |
| 39 | I think we need to acknowledge that Senator Sanders and I disagree on some items, but | 我认为我们需要承认 参议员桑德斯和我在一些项目上有分歧,但 |
| 40 | we agree on the need for change. | 我们同意需要改变。 |
| 41 | Now, we have a bunch of new members. | 现在,我们有一群新成员。 |
| 42 | We just had our first big meeting with the new caucus. | 我们刚刚与新的核心小组举行了第一次重要会议。 |
| 43 | They're from all kinds of new states. | 他们来自各种新州. |
| 44 | It's extremely exciting. | 这太刺激了 |
| 45 | We need leadership that's going to govern for the entirety of the caucus, for folks | 我们需要领导才能管理整个核心小组,为大家 |
| 46 | from blue states, purple states, and red states. | 蓝州,紫州,红州 |
| 47 | But I think it's important to demonstrate that we've heard what people want from this | 但我认为必须证明 我们听到了人们想要的东西 |
| 48 | last election. | 上次选举。 |
| 49 | So I think it's important to have a fulsome conversation on things like AI. | 所以,我认为重要的是要有一个富有意义的谈话 关于诸如AI的事情。 |
| 50 | I want this new generation of leadership to be doing a joint committee, House and Senate, | 我希望这个新一代的领导 做一个联合委员会, 众议院和参议院, |
| 51 | on AI. | 关于大赦国际的报告。 |
| 52 | I think the country is desperate for us to actually put some left and right limits there. | 我认为这个国家非常渴望我们 真正在那里设置一些左右的限制。 |
| 53 | I think we should have the voices of freshmen and sophomore senators in leadership helping | 我认为我们应该有 新生和二年级参议员的声音 在领导帮助 |
| 54 | to guide what happens when we take the majority. | 指导当我们采取多数时会发生什么。 |
| 55 | But at the end of the day, I don't think it's a radical idea to ask whoever wants to lead | 但到最后,我并不认为 问谁想领导 |
| 56 | to come forward with a concrete plan, not just in words, but in deeds, how they're going | 拿出一个具体的计划, 不仅在言语上, 而且在行动上, |
| 57 | to govern differently. | 以不同方式治理国家。 |
| 58 | So that's why we're here today and interested, again, across ideological lines in something | 因此,我们今天在这里 并再次感兴趣, 跨越意识形态界限的东西 |
| 59 | different for the Democratic caucus. | 与民主党不同 |
| 60 | Just give us your name, please. | 请告诉我们你的名字 |
| 61 | I have a question for Leigh Ann Lefkak. | 我有个问题要问莉安·莱夫卡克 |
| 62 | Has Senator Schumer responded to some of your concerns? | 舒默参议员对你关心的问题有回应吗? |
| 63 | Has he started to discuss a plan, for instance? | 他开始讨论计划了吗? |
| 64 | And secondly, who else is there that would run or that you would support, Senator Sanders? | 第二,桑德斯参议员,还有谁会跑或者你会支持? |
| 65 | Well, yeah, we just, Alyssa and I just came from a meeting where there was some serious | 嗯,是的,我们只是,Alyssa和我刚 在一个会议 有一些严重的 |
| 66 | discussion about a general idea of going forward. | 讨论关于前进方向的一般设想。 |
| 67 | The answer to that is yes. | 答案是肯定的。 |
| 68 | Was it as definitive as it should be? | 它是否像应该确定的那样明确? |
| 69 | In my view, it was not. | 在我看来,它不是。 |
| 70 | And I think one of the names that's out there is Chris Feth-Holland. | 我认为其中的一个名字是克里斯・费斯・霍兰德。 |
| 71 | I think Chris has indicated some interest, but you'll have to talk to him. | 我认为克里斯已经表示了一些兴趣, 但你得和他谈谈。 |
| 72 | There may be others. | 可能还有其他人 |
| 73 | Yes. | 对 |
| 74 | Julian Andrioni with Dropsite News. | 朱利安·安德里奥尼与Dropsite新闻。 |
| 75 | I just wanted to ask you, Chuck Schumer is somebody who's taken loads of corporate PAC | 我只是想问你,查克・舒默是某个人 谁承担了公司PAC |
| 76 | money, AIPAC money throughout his career. | 钱,AIPAC钱 在他的整个职业生涯。 |
| 77 | He also sort of his stated electoral strategy was to abandon folks in the blue collar cities | 他的竞选策略是抛弃蓝领城市的人 |
| 78 | and communities in favor of moderate Republicans in the suburbs. | 在郊区支持温和的共和党人 |
| 79 | And his daughter is a top lobbyist for OpenAI. | 他的女儿是OpenAI的顶级说客. |
| 80 | So I'm wondering, how are you going to secure not only generational change, but also ideological | 所以我想知道,你将如何确保 不仅代代相传的改变, 和意识形态 |
| 81 | change and change in integrity in finding this new leader? | 在寻找这位新领袖的过程中,要改变和改变正直? |
| 82 | Do you want to go, Leigh Ann? | 你想去吗,丽安? |
| 83 | So look, I think what one of the big messages out of this election was also that it's not | 听着,我想这次选举的重要信息之一 就是它不是 |
| 84 | just like progressive versus moderate, it is literally economic security at the forefront | 就像进步与温和一样 经济安全是首要的 |
| 85 | of people's minds. | 和人们的思想。 |
| 86 | How am I going to provide for my kids, my grandkids, and how are they going to live | 我该怎么照顾我的孩子,我的孙子, 他们要怎么生活? |
| 87 | a life that's as good as me, if not better? | 和我一样好的生活,如果不是更好? |
| 88 | And I think we need to hear that. | 我认为我们需要听到这一点。 |
| 89 | Similar issues to what was happening in 2024, right? | 和2024年发生的事情类似 对吧? |
| 90 | And I ran in 2024, and economic issues were the top of those issues. | 我在2024年参选,经济问题是这些问题中最重要的。 |
| 91 | So I think we're moving to a point where if you listen to the American people, it's not | 所以,我认为我们正在移动到一个点 如果你听 美国人民,这不是 |
| 92 | about one wing or the other wing, it's about are we going to have a strong middle class | 要么是一翼,要么是另一翼 我们要有一个强大的中产阶级 |
| 93 | in this country or not, okay? | 国家与否,好吗? |
| 94 | Now I was very proud, we just had an election in Michigan. | 我非常自豪 我们刚刚在密歇根州举行了选举 |
| 95 | Abdul and I are the youngest single delegation, if you combine our years, when we're the first | 阿卜杜勒和我是最年轻的一个代表团 如果你能结合我们的岁月 |
| 96 | where neither of us have taken corporate PAC money, we don't agree on everything, I've | 我们谁也没有拿过PAC的钱, 我们不同意一切,我已经 |
| 97 | been open about that, but we can work together to come up with solutions in a serious way. | 我们对此持开放态度,但我们可以共同努力,认真提出解决办法。 |
| 98 | So I think that is, to me, one of the strongest messages coming out of Tuesday, is that the | 因此我认为,对我来说,星期二发出的最强烈的信息之一是 |
| 99 | public is done with people who say a lot of words but aren't actually going to put more | 公众会说很多话 但实际上不会放更多 |
| 100 | money in people's pockets, and I personally will work with anyone who wants to work on | 钱在人们的口袋里, 我个人会工作 谁想工作 |
| 101 | that mission instead of looking like we're doing things. | 而不是像我们一样做事 |
| 102 | Let me just say, I don't want to get into all the policy issues, I think many of you | 我只能说,我不想 进入所有政策问题,我想你们很多人 |
| 103 | know where I'm coming from, but I think Alyssa was exactly right in saying that we need a | 知道我从哪里来, 但我认为阿莉萨完全正确 说我们需要一个 |
| 104 | serious debate about serious issues and about the future and the direction of the Democratic | 就严重问题和民主 |
| 105 | Party. | 派对 |
| 106 | Foreign policy is a very important part of that debate, in my view, the war in Vietnam | 我认为,外交政策是越南战争辩论的一个重要部分。 |
| 107 | was based on a lie, the war in Iraq was based on a lie, the war in Iran is based on a lie, | 以谎言为基础 伊拉克战争以谎言为基础 伊朗战争以谎言为基础 |
| 108 | in my view. | 在我看来 |
| 109 | I think U.S. military aid to Israel is certainly a very sensitive subject among tens of millions | 我认为美国对以色列的军事援助 无疑是数千万人中非常敏感的话题 |
| 110 | of people. | 人类。 |
| 111 | These are issues that have got to be debated and discussed. | 这些问题必须辩论和讨论。 |
| 112 | Yes. | 对 |
| 113 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 114 | PBS的丽莎 | |
| 115 | I just want to make sure I'm clarified that we're getting your positions correct. | 我只是想确认一下我们的立场是否正确 |
| 116 | Senator, I hear you saying that you are a no on Schumer, and Senator Slotkin, are you | 参议员,我听到你说 你对舒默不感兴趣, 参议员斯洛特金,你是 |
| 117 | a no until you see a plan or are you a definite no not changing your mind on Schumer right | 直到你看见一个计划 或者你绝对不会改变你对舒默的看法 |
| 118 | now? | 现在? |
| 119 | Whoever wants my vote is going to have to show me a concrete plan that's definitively | 谁要我投票,谁就得告诉我一个具体计划,这个计划是绝对的 |
| 120 | different. | 不一样 |
| 121 | I'm a no until and unless I see that from anyone and frankly suggest that my peers | 除非我从任何人那里看到 并坦率地暗示我的同龄人 |
| 122 | withhold quorum and if there's only going to be one candidate, withhold quorum until | 如果只有一位候选人,则不要求法定人数,直到 |
| 123 | you get that plan and you feel like you have a voice in that plan. | 你得到这个计划,你感觉你有 在计划中的声音。 |
| 124 | That's my personal view. | 这是我的个人观点。 |
| 125 | Senator Slotkin, you met with Senator Ben Hallen yesterday. | 斯洛特金参议员 你昨天见过本·哈伦参议员 |
| 126 | If he were to announce a run for leadership, would you support him, yes or no? | 如果他宣布竞选领导, 你会支持他,是还是否? |
| 127 | So we had a really productive conversation yesterday, and again, I really think this | 所以昨天我们进行了非常有成果的谈话, 再说一遍,我真的觉得 |
| 128 | idea that it's progressive versus moderate is just very 2019, right? | 认为它是进步对温和 只是非常2019,对不对? |
| 129 | It's team fight versus team flight. | 这是团队战斗对团队飞行。 |
| 130 | Do you actually want to fight hard for the things that are going to help people or do | 你真的想为那些能帮助别人的事而奋斗吗? |
| 131 | you kind of want to just sit there and look like you're doing something? | 你想只是坐在那里 看起来像你在做什么? |
| 132 | So that is, we had a productive conversation, but the same, I have the same feeling about | 所以,这就是,我们有一个富有成效的谈话, 但同样的,我也有同样的感觉 |
| 133 | anyone who runs as I do about Senator Schumer. | 任何像我一样运行舒默参议员的人 |
| 134 | I want to see what that plan is. | 我想看看那计划是什么 |
| 135 | I want to see how it represents newer members. | 我想看看它如何代表新的成员。 |
| 136 | I want to see how it represents people across these new states who just won, and I would | 我想看看它是如何代表 整个新州的人 谁刚刚赢了,我会 |
| 137 | require that for anyone who says they're running. | 任何说要逃跑的人都要这样 |
| 138 | I'm just, I think the evidence is overwhelming. | 我只是,我认为证据是压倒性的。 |
| 139 | The polling is overwhelming. | 民调压倒一切. |
| 140 | The elections made it very clear that in my view, status quo policies and status quo politics | 选举非常清楚地表明,我认为,现状政策和现状政治 |
| 141 | is not what the American people want. | 不是美国人民想要的 |
| 142 | They want change. | 他们想要改变。 |
| 143 | They want bold change, and I think Alissa is quite right. | 他们想要大胆的改变 我认为艾丽莎是对的 |
| 144 | We want to see some definitive ideas from those people who are running for leader. | 我们希望看到那些竞选领袖的人提出一些明确的想法。 |
| 145 | Okay, yeah. | 好吧,没错。 |
| 146 | Senator Sleipman, just to be perfectly clear, and Kevin with MSNOW, is there a checklist | 斯莱普曼参议员 和MSNOW的凯文 有一个核对表 |
| 147 | that you have, for example, given to Senator Van Hollen, to Senator Schumer, saying I need | 比如说,你给了范·霍伦参议员 舒默参议员 说我需要 |
| 148 | XYZ on this particular topic area that I think the public said in their votes last week needs | 关于这个特定主题的 XYZ 我认为公众在上周的投票中 需要 |
| 149 | to be addressed? | 需要处理? |
| 150 | How are you grading on whether or not it's met the moment? | 你如何判断它是否满足了? |
| 151 | Is there a risk separately to both of you that, I mean, Senator Schumer's world seems | 你们俩有没有分别的风险 我是说舒默参议员的世界似乎 |
| 152 | to think he has most of these votes that he needs. | 以为他拥有他需要的大部分选票 |
| 153 | By protracting this and dragging this out, is there a risk of internal conflict within | 通过拖延时间和拖出时间,存在内部冲突的危险。 |
| 154 | the party that doesn't need to be here at a moment of victory? | 在胜利时刻不需要在这里的党? |
| 155 | Well, I would say I think the public is very clear that they want this discussion. | 好吧,我要说,我认为公众非常清楚 他们想要讨论这个。 |
| 156 | Certainly I'm getting that in my office. | 当然,我得到了在我的办公室。 |
| 157 | I'm getting that from people texting me. | 我从发短信的人那里得到的 |
| 158 | I don't think it's a secret that people are looking for change and they're voicing that. | 我不认为这是个秘密 人们正在寻找改变 他们正在表达这一点。 |
| 159 | And there's nothing wrong with having a healthy debate of ideas and a healthy debate on governance | 对思想进行健康的辩论,对治理进行健康的辩论,是没有问题的 |
| 160 | to get to something better. | 找到更好的东西。 |
| 161 | So I sort of reject the premise that by debating how we can get better, we somehow are showing | 所以我拒绝这样的前提 通过辩论我们怎样才能好起来 我们不知怎么表现 |
| 162 | weakness, especially when, you know, the House of Representatives just elected Jim Jordan | 软弱,特别是当,你知道, 众议院刚刚选举吉姆乔丹 |
| 163 | as the minority leader. | 作为少数派领袖。 |
| 164 | Like people are making choices about who their leaders are, and I think it's good to think | 就像人们正在做出选择 他们的领导人是谁, 我认为这是很好的思考 |
| 165 | about that and push and pull on each other. | 关于那个,推和拉对方。 |
| 166 | So if that's answering your question, I just, I don't, I think it's a healthy thing, no | 所以,如果这是回答你的问题, 我只是,我不, 我认为这是一个健康的事情,不 |
| 167 | matter who wants to be majority leader. | 谁想成为多数派领袖? |
| 168 | Look, I think the point is, I don't think you heard the Senator make any personal attacks | 听着,我想重点是, 我想你没有听到参议员 任何人身攻击 |
| 169 | on Schumer or anybody else. | 在舒默或其他任何人身上。 |
| 170 | This is a democracy. | 这是一个民主。 |
| 171 | We believe in democracy. | 我们相信民主。 |
| 172 | And that means a vigorous debate over the most important issues facing America. | 这意味着对美国面临的最重要的问题进行激烈的辩论。 |
| 173 | That is healthy. | 这是健康的。 |
| 174 | And we should open that discussion up, hear from the American people. | 我们应该打开讨论,听到美国人民的声音。 |
| 175 | In fact, my own view is, to tell you the truth, that if there is a contest, as I hope there | 事实上,我个人的观点是,说实话, 如果有比赛,我希望那里 |
| 176 | will be, for majority leader, that we have that, you know, on one of the major television | 对于多数党领袖来说,我们有,你知道的, 在一个主要的电视上 |
| 177 | stations. | 电台。 |
| 178 | Let the American people also tell us the direction that they want the Democratic Party to go | 让美国人民也告诉我们 他们希望民主党走的方向 |
| 179 | in. | 进去 |
| 180 | But having a healthy, honest debate is a positive thing in my view. | 但我认为,健康、诚实的辩论是一件好事。 |
| 181 | Sir? | 长官? |
| 182 | Thank you, Michael. | 谢谢你,迈克尔。 |
| 183 | I just want to ask, you all are asking for someone to put forward a bold plan. | 我只想问 你们都要求有人提出大胆的计划 |
| 184 | You both have said that you're not running for the position. | 你们都说过你们不会竞选这个职位 |
| 185 | There doesn't seem to be anyone else besides Senator Schumer and Chris Van Hollen thinking | 除了舒默参议员和克里斯・范・霍伦 想着 |
| 186 | about it. | 关于它。 |
| 187 | Why do you think there aren't more of your Democratic colleagues who are coming forward | 为什么你认为没有更多的民主党同事出来 |
| 188 | and saying that they want the position? | 说他们想要这个位置? |
| 189 | What is it about this position that you both don't want it? | 为什么你们都不想得到这个职位? |
| 190 | There aren't a lot of Democratic senators publicly saying that they're wanting it. | 没有多少民主党参议员公开表示他们想要这样. |
| 191 | Senator Van Hollen is like, I got to take a lot of time and think about it. | 范参议员 霍伦说,我得花很多时间考虑一下 |
| 192 | What is it about the position that you think is something that you both wouldn't want to | 你的立场是什么,你认为是 的东西,你们不想 |
| 193 | pursue? | 追杀? |
| 194 | Well, it's a, you know, inside the beltway taking on the leadership is not an easy, is | 嗯,这是一个,你知道, 内带道 承担领导不是一件容易,是 |
| 195 | not something that's easily done. | 事情不会轻易解决 |
| 196 | And Chuck over the years has made a lot of friends and developed a lot of alliances and | 多年来,查克结交了很多朋友 发展了许多联盟 |
| 197 | so forth. | 以此类推。 |
| 198 | Yeah? | 是吗? |
| 199 | Ann Marie with News Nation. | 安玛丽与新闻国家。 |
| 200 | Schumer is running in large part on his record of recruiting most of the candidates who gave | 舒默在招聘大部分候选人的纪录中 大部分是 |
| 201 | Democrats a major win. | 民主党大胜. |
| 202 | Do you think he deserves credit for that? | 你觉得他值得称赞吗? |
| 203 | I think Chuck and Kirsten raised a whole lot of money, which is a great help to many candidates | 我觉得查克和柯尔斯滕筹到很多钱 这对很多候选人来说都是很大的帮助 |
| 204 | and I think they do deserve credit. | 我认为他们的确值得称赞。 |
| 205 | But I think there are a whole lot of people who are busy running around the country, holding | 但我认为有很多人 忙着跑遍全国, |
| 206 | rallies and supporting candidates and sometimes taking on candidates that the Democratic leadership | 集会和支持候选人,有时接受民主党领导人的候选人 |
| 207 | actually supported. | 实际支持。 |
| 208 | So I think there's a lot of praise to go across the board. | 所以,我认为有很多赞美 横跨。 |
| 209 | Chuck does, but so do a lot of other people. | 查克有,但很多人也一样 |
| 210 | Yeah? | 是吗? |
| 211 | Joe, with the Associated Press, has Leader Schumer indicated whether this would be his | Joe和美联社的Schumer领导人 表示这是不是他的 |
| 212 | final two years and would you need to hear that from him to potentially, you know, would | 最后两年,你需要听到 从他到潜在的,你知道,会 |
| 213 | that change your calculation? | 这改变了你的计算? |
| 214 | I've not heard that at all. | 我根本没听说过 |
| 215 | That's all. | 就这样 |
| 216 | Have you asked him that? | 你问过他吗? |
| 217 | Is that? | 是吗? |
| 218 | I don't think that question has come up. | 我不认为这个问题已经出现。 |
| 219 | Yeah? | 是吗? |
| 220 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 221 | Allison with Lindell TV. | 艾莉森与林德尔电视。 |
| 222 | Can you just outline specifically where you think Chuck Schumer has fallen short as leader | 你能具体描述一下你认为 查克·舒默作为领袖的不足之处吗 |
| 223 | and why he's no longer compatible with the current Democrat party? | 为什么他不再和现在的民主党相容? |
| 224 | Do you want to take a shot of it or do you want me to slot it? | 你想拍下还是要我拍? |
| 225 | I mean, I'm happy. | 我的意思是,我很快乐。 |
| 226 | I'm sorry. | 对不起 |
| 227 | All right. | 好吧,我们走。 |
| 228 | Look, I don't want to get too much into issues today, but poll after poll, I think, suggests | 听着,我不想太在意今天的问题, 但民意调查之后,我想,建议 |
| 229 | that the American people want bold change. | 美国人民想要大胆的改变 |
| 230 | In other words, in my view, I speak only for myself. | 换句话说,在我看来,我只为自己说话。 |
| 231 | And I've been all over this country and I've held dozens and dozens and dozens of rallies. | 并遍及全国,举行数十次集会. |
| 232 | And if you ask the American people about the nature of the health care system, what they | 如果你问美国人民 保健系统的性质,他们 |
| 233 | I'll tell you, it is broken. | 我告诉你,它坏了。 |
| 234 | It is dysfunctional and it's incredibly expensive. | 它功能不全 而且非常昂贵 |
| 235 | They can't afford it. | 他们买不起 |
| 236 | In my view, it's not tinkering around the edges of health care anymore. | 在我看来,这已经不是在保健的边缘了。 |
| 237 | The time has finally got to come, in my view, that we move in a new direction, I believe | 我认为,时机终于到了,我们朝着一个新的方向前进,我认为 |
| 238 | in Medicare for. | 在医疗保险。 |
| 239 | I don't want to get into specific proposals, but I think the time and the moment when you | 我不想谈具体的建议, 但我认为你的时间和时刻 |
| 240 | have more income and wealth inequality than we've ever had in the history of this country, | 收入和财富的不平等比我国历史上还多 |
| 241 | when our younger generation will have a lower standard of living than their parents, the | 我们年轻一代的生活水平会比父母低 |
| 242 | time is now to deal with the need to create an economy that works for all, not just the | 现在需要处理的是创造一个有利于所有人的经济,而不只是 |
| 243 | people on top. | 人们在上面。 |
| 244 | And do I think Chuck has been leading in that direction? | 我觉得查克一直朝这个方向走吗? |
| 245 | No, I don't. | 不,我没有。 |
| 246 | Yes, ma'am. | 是,长官 |
| 247 | So we're heading into a 20-28 presidential cycle where there obviously will be a debate | 所以我们要进入一个20 -28的总统周期 很明显将会有一场辩论 |
| 248 | among the party about new leadership at the very top. | 党内关于高层新领导人的言论 |
| 249 | And I think that probably takes away some of the candidates, even Van Hollen, who said | 我认为这可能会 带走一些候选人, 甚至范霍伦, 谁说 |
| 250 | he's considering this, had previously ruled it out and said that he was focused on that | 他考虑这个,以前排除了 并说他专注于这个 |
| 251 | as a better platform for having this debate for new leadership. | 作为举行这次辩论以培养新领导人的更好平台。 |
| 252 | Do you think that having this conversation at the time where you're also having a conversation | 你觉得在谈话的时候有这种对话吗? |
| 253 | about new leadership at the presidential level makes it harder to find somebody? | 关于总统一级的新领导 更难找人? |
| 254 | I'm going to give you my own prejudice feeling about this. | 我会给你自己的偏见感 关于这一点。 |
| 255 | I think the media pushes, it's easy to write about who's running for 20-28. | 我认为媒体推,写谁跑20-28很容易. |
| 256 | Most Americans don't care about it. | 大部分美国人对此并不关心. |
| 257 | What most Americans want to know is how they're going to be able to afford health care, how | 大部分美国人想知道的是 如何支付医疗费用 |
| 258 | they're going to afford to pay for housing, how their kids are going to have a decent | 他们要付得起住房费 他们的孩子要如何过上体面的生活 |
| 259 | life, how we're going to deal with AI and the other major crises facing this country. | 生活,我们如何应对AI和这个国家面临的其他重大危机. |
| 260 | That's very easy to write. | 这很容易写 |
| 261 | This candidate may run and that may. | 该候选人可以竞选,也可以竞选。 |
| 262 | I don't think we have to worry about 20-28. | 我认为我们不必担心20 -28。 |
| 263 | I think we have to worry about how we deal with the major issues, the crises. | 我认为我们必须担心我们如何处理重大问题、危机。 |
| 264 | This country today, in my view, faces more serious crises than we've ever had in the | 在我看来,这个国家今天面临着比以往更严重的危机 |
| 265 | modern history of this country. | 这个国家的现代历史。 |
| 266 | We've got to deal with that. | 我们必须处理好这一点。 |
| 267 | I think starting that debate right in the Democratic caucus, Mr. Ryan may disagree on | 我认为,在民主核心小组开始辩论时,莱恩先生可能不同意 |
| 268 | an issue. | 一个问题。 |
| 269 | Put it on the table. | 放在桌子上 放在桌子上 |
| 270 | How do you address health care? | 如何解决保健问题? |
| 271 | Is health care a human right? | 保健是一项人权吗? |
| 272 | It's not. | 这不是。 |
| 273 | Should billionaires not pay their fair share of taxes? | 亿万富翁是否应该缴纳公平份额的税款? |
| 274 | Let's debate that issue. | 我们来辩论这个问题 |
| 275 | Should Mr. Musk and a handful of billionaires push AI down the throats of the American people? | Musk先生和少数亿万富翁应该把AI推下美国人民的喉咙吗? |
| 276 | Let's debate that issue. | 我们来辩论这个问题 |
| 277 | Do we continue endless wars? | 我们要继续无休止的战争吗? |
| 278 | Let's debate that issue. | 我们来辩论这个问题 |
| 279 | So I think serious debate, and we need the help of the media on this issue. | 所以我认为是严肃的辩论,我们需要媒体在这个问题上的帮助. |
| 280 | It's easy to talk about personalities. | 说个性方便. |
| 281 | Is AOC going to run for president? | AOC会竞选总统吗? |
| 282 | Well, you can write 50 articles on that. | 你可以写50篇文章 |
| 283 | But what about writing an article about why we're the only major country on earth not | 但写一篇关于为什么我们是世界上唯一大国的文章怎么样? |
| 284 | to guarantee health care to all people? | * 保障所有人的保健? |
| 285 | What about writing an article about is it appropriate that one guy owns more wealth | 写一篇关于一个人拥有更多财富的报导是合适的吗? |
| 286 | than the bottom half of American households? | 比美国家庭的下半部分还要多? |
| 287 | Let's talk about the important issues, and I think a debate within the Democratic caucus | 我们来谈谈重要的问题 我想在民主核心小组内部举行一次辩论 |
| 288 | is a damn good way to start that. | 是个很好的开始 |
| 289 | Yes ma'am. | 是,长官 |
| 290 | I'm a Janssen from the New Republic. | 我是来自新共和国的詹森 |
| 291 | Senator Slotkin, for you, you said you're not actively seeking this role, but if, say, | 斯洛特金参议员 你说你没有积极寻求这个角色 但如果... |
| 292 | Senator Van Hollen doesn't put his name forward ultimately, would you put forward a plan? | 范参议员 霍伦最终不会提他的名字 你会提出计划吗? |
| 293 | Well, certainly. | 当然 |
| 294 | I mean, I acknowledge that I had conversations with Senator Van Hollen yesterday because | 我的意思是,我承认 我昨天和参议员Van Hollen谈过话,因为 |
| 295 | I have a point of view on after two years in this caucus, right, I'm now a sophomore, | 我对两年后在这个核心小组有观点, 对,我现在是一个大二, |
| 296 | and I've sat in that room and tried to figure out what our plan was for two years. | 我坐在那间屋子里 试图找出我们两年的计划 |
| 297 | And I think the, maybe it's because I come from a national security background, you can't | 我认为,也许是因为我来自国家安全背景,你不能 |
| 298 | lead people if you can't lay out where you're going. | 带路的人,如果你不能 确定你要去哪里。 |
| 299 | And it's maybe one thing when you're in the minority, but it's very different when it's | 当你处于少数时,也许有一件事, 但当它是非常不同的, |
| 300 | now your responsibility to deliver. | 现在,你的责任 交付。 |
| 301 | And I think I'm just going to be clear, again, with whoever, I'm saying it right to Senator | 我想我还是要说清楚 跟谁说,我对参议员说 |
| 302 | Schumer as well. | 舒默亦尔. |
| 303 | Here are the things that I think are important to get right. | 我认为这些事情很重要 |
| 304 | Now, I don't have to win, but I think there needs to be something different than what | 现在,我不必赢, 但我认为需要的东西 不同什么 |
| 305 | we've had in these last two years by way of planning. | 过去两年来,我们通过计划的方式 |
| 306 | And I've been like a, you know, broken record on this issue. | 我就像一个,你知道的, 打破了记录 在这个问题上。 |
| 307 | And I think the, you know, we had such a generational election, right? | 我想,你知道,我们有 如此世代的选举,对不对? |
| 308 | It was such a wave, such a tsunami. | 这是如此的浪潮,如此的海啸。 |
| 309 | And I don't want people to over learn the lesson or take the wrong lesson away from | 我不希望人们过度学习 或错误的教训离开 |
| 310 | it. | 这个 |
| 311 | People are so exhausted with Trump and so exhausted at the economic stress in their | 特朗普对经济压力如此疲惫 |
| 312 | life that they're willing to vote for anything different. | 生活 他们愿意投票 任何不同的。 |
| 313 | That's very different than people falling in love with Democrats and saying like, that's | 这和人们爱上民主党人 并说: |
| 314 | where my heart is. | 吾心所在之处. |
| 315 | We have to earn their vote by what we do in January. | 我们必须通过我们一月份的工作赢得他们的选票。 |
| 316 | And that's why I see it as so pivotal to getting right. | 这就是为什么我认为这是如此关键 要得到正确。 |
| 317 | And then communicating right. | 然后沟通正确。 |
| 318 | And again, our newest members have shown great prowess at communication. | 再说一遍,我们最新的成员在沟通方面表现出了极大的优势。 |
| 319 | It's half the reason we got the big majority we got. | 这是一半的原因 我们得到了大多数我们得到了。 |
| 320 | So maybe think differently about this institution, this place and how we strategize | 所以也许对这个机构 这个地方 以及我们如何制定策略 |
| 321 | and communicate. | 和沟通。 |
| 322 | I think at this point, the American public is like, if you're not looking at new ways | 我想此刻,美国公众 喜欢,如果你不看新的方法 |
| 323 | of doing things, you're not doing your job. | 做事情,你没有做你的工作。 |
| 324 | Maybe one more. | 也许再来一次 |
| 325 | Yeah. | 对 |
| 326 | Senator Sanders, a question for both of you. | 桑德斯参议员 你们俩有个问题 |
| 327 | Would you support removing the filibuster in this current session over the next two | 您是否支持删除当前会话中的 filibusus 下两个 |
| 328 | years in order to try to get bills passed? | 为了让法案获得通过 花了几年? |
| 329 | That's a very important question, and I haven't reached an answer on it. | 这是一个非常重要的问题,我还没有找到答案。 |
| 330 | I think there are a lot of reasons to support it, and that is the majority. | 我认为有许多理由支持它,这就是多数。 |
| 331 | We believe in majority rule, not necessarily having 40 people be able to deny what the | 我们相信多数统治,不一定有40人能够否认 |
| 332 | majority wants. | 多数人想要。 |
| 333 | I am worried about protecting minority rights as well. | 我也担心保护少数人的权利。 |
| 334 | But what I do believe, absolutely, is that we can, with a major budget reconciliation | 但我相信,绝对的,是我们能够, 一个重大的预算和解 |
| 335 | bill, do a whole lot. | 比尔,做很多事情 |
| 336 | Trump's big, beautiful bill, which I consider to be one of the worst pieces of legislation | 特朗普的大而美丽的法案, 我认为这是最糟糕的立法之一 |
| 337 | ever passed, was done through reconciliation. | 通过和解实现的 |
| 338 | So I think what we've got to do is sit down, and I think many people agree with this. | 因此,我认为我们必须做的是坐下来,我认为许多人都同意这一点。 |
| 339 | How do we deal with health care? | 我们如何处理保健? |
| 340 | How do we deal with wages? | 我们如何处理工资? |
| 341 | How do we deal with the war? | 如何对付战争? |
| 342 | How do we deal with many, many things? | 我们如何处理很多很多事情? |
| 343 | We can put that into a reconciliation bill. | 我们可以把它写成和解法案。 |
| 344 | All right, with that, thank you all very much. | 好的,谢谢大家 |
| 345 | Take care. | 小心点 |
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