【塔克·卡尔森秀】泽连斯基新闻秘书揭露他的真实面目（完整版）
字幕摘录
| 时间 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 0:06 | Thank you for doing this. | 谢谢你 |
| 0:08 | I'm amazed. | 我很惊讶。 |
| 0:09 | I never thought I would speak to anyone around Zelensky. | 我从没想过我会跟泽伦斯基周围的人说话 |
| 0:12 | So and I knew you're doing this at some great risks yourself. | 所以我知道你这么做 冒着很大的风险 |
| 0:15 | So thank you very much. | 非常感谢 |
| 0:16 | So you were | 原来你是 |
| 0:17 | President Zelensky's press secretary. | 泽连斯基总统的新闻秘书 |
| 0:20 | Yes, first of all, thank you for having me and I never expected to see myself here talking about my former boss Volodymyr Zelensky. | 是的,首先,谢谢你邀请我... ...我从没想过会在这里... ...谈论我的前老板沃洛迪米尔泽连斯基 |
| 0:28 | I used to work for him for two years since 2019 till 2021. | 从2019年到2021年,我一直为他工作两年. |
| 0:34 | How did you wind up working for him? | 你怎么会为他工作? |
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| 序号 | 英文 | 中文 |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Thank you for doing this. | 谢谢你 |
| 2 | I'm amazed. | 我很惊讶。 |
| 3 | I never thought I would speak to anyone around Zelensky. | 我从没想过我会跟泽伦斯基周围的人说话 |
| 4 | So and I knew you're doing this at some great risks yourself. | 所以我知道你这么做 冒着很大的风险 |
| 5 | So thank you very much. | 非常感谢 |
| 6 | So you were | 原来你是 |
| 7 | President Zelensky's press secretary. | 泽连斯基总统的新闻秘书 |
| 8 | Yes, first of all, thank you for having me and I never expected to see myself here talking about my former boss Volodymyr Zelensky. | 是的,首先,谢谢你邀请我... ...我从没想过会在这里... ...谈论我的前老板沃洛迪米尔泽连斯基 |
| 9 | I used to work for him for two years since 2019 till 2021. | 从2019年到2021年,我一直为他工作两年. |
| 10 | How did you wind up working for him? | 你怎么会为他工作? |
| 11 | Well, Volodymyr Zelensky announced the job via Facebook and | 沃洛迪米尔·泽伦斯基通过Facebook宣布了这份工作 |
| 12 | everybody started applying and I didn't want to apply first because I thought he would take someone, you know, | 每个人都开始申请 我不想先申请 因为我想他会带一个人去 |
| 13 | nepotically. | 任人唯亲 |
| 14 | But there was an open application and I won through 4,000 of applicants. | 但有一个公开的申请, 我赢得了4000个申请人。 |
| 15 | It's not a joke and then actually I need to prove myself that I can do a job and that he can trust me. | 这不是一个笑话,然后实际上我需要证明自己 我可以做一个工作,他可以信任我。 |
| 16 | But yeah, we found the common ground and I think I was very faithful towards him, you know, yes, and | 是的,我们找到了共同点 我想我非常忠实于他,你知道的,是的, |
| 17 | I | 一、导 言 |
| 18 | supported him and I supported him in 2022 | 2022年我支持他 我支持他 |
| 19 | when Russia made its large-scale invasion. | 当俄国发动大规模入侵时 |
| 20 | As millions of Ukrainians, I was grateful that he stayed in the country. | 作为数百万乌克兰人,我很感激他留在该国。 |
| 21 | Yes. | 对 |
| 22 | 故为 so. | |
| 23 | strange and desperate for me to be here and to talk who he really is. | 奇怪和绝望的我在这里 并谈论他的真实身份。 |
| 24 | I don't have personal vendetta, but I believe that he is one of the biggest obstacles towards peace today. | 我没有私仇,但我相信他是今天实现和平的最大障碍之一. |
| 25 | So I wanted to tell the people who he is. | 所以我想告诉大家他是谁 |
| 26 | Who is he? | 他是谁? |
| 27 | First of all, he's not a person whom you see on camera. | 首先,他不是一个你在镜头中看到的人。 |
| 28 | He's a very different person. | 他是个很不一样的人 |
| 29 | He changes masks all the time. | 他总是更换面具 |
| 30 | He is emotionally uncontrollable. | 他感情上无法控制 |
| 31 | Emotionally uncontrollable. | 情感无法控制 |
| 32 | Yeah, he doesn't control his emotions. | 是啊,他不能控制他的情绪。 |
| 33 | He's often hysterical and | 他经常歇斯底里 |
| 34 | he thinks that every person is disposable. | 他认为每个人都是一次性的 |
| 35 | He doesn't have empathy that he plays. | 他没有同情心,他玩。 |
| 36 | He's absolutely insanely great actor and that brought us a lot of support in 2022. | 他绝对是疯狂的伟大的演员,这给我们带来了很多支持 在2022年。 |
| 37 | But his acting doesn't have any substance and everything that he is saying | 但他的表演没有任何实质和他所说的一切 |
| 38 | it's so detached from the reality. | 它是如此脱离现实。 |
| 39 | The majority of the things that he's saying it's either | 他所说的大多数话也是 |
| 40 | manipulation or it's a fact that is being taken from the context or it's a pure lies. | 要不然就是从上下文中取出的事实 或纯粹的谎言 |
| 41 | Millions of people still believe that supporting Zelensky means supporting Ukraine, but today it's different. | 数百万人仍然认为支持泽连斯基意味着支持乌克兰,但今天却有所不同. |
| 42 | Tucker, I would like to say I'm not here to justify Russian invasion. | 塔克,我想说我不是来为俄国入侵辩护的 |
| 43 | I'm not here to justify Putin. | 我不是来为普京辩护的 |
| 44 | What Russian army is doing in Ukraine equals crimes against humanity. | 俄罗斯军队在乌克兰的所作所为等同于危害人类罪。 |
| 45 | But this war is not black and white anymore. | 但这场战争不再是黑白战争了. |
| 46 | It's dark and even darker. | 阴阳更甚. |
| 47 | We just see Putin as an evil, but Zelensky is also an evil. | 我们只是将普京视为邪恶,但泽连斯基也是邪恶. |
| 48 | He's just a hidden one. | 他只是个隐藏的 |
| 49 | He plays such a teddy bear, you know, on camera. | 他在镜头上弹得像只泰迪熊 |
| 50 | But then when the light goes off, he's a grizzly bear and he destroys the people. | 但是当灯光熄灭时,他是一个灰熊,他摧毁了人民. |
| 51 | It's almost surreal to recollect that almost every Western leader and Western delegations that were coming to Ukraine before the war, | 几乎无法想象的是,几乎每一个西方领导人和西方代表团 在战争前来到乌克兰, |
| 52 | they treated Zelensky as a political novice. | 他们把泽连斯基当成政治新手 |
| 53 | They saw he was low-educated, unqualified and low-debts. | 他们看到他受教育程度低、不合格和债务低。 |
| 54 | But then overnight he just turned into this great face of democracy. | 但一夜之间,他变成了民主的伟大面孔。 |
| 55 | But it feels like the West created the myth, fell into it and | 但感觉西方创造了神话 陷入其中 |
| 56 | you know, doesn't it see, doesn't it? | 你知道,它没有看到,不是吗? |
| 57 | That the West keeps ignoring the fact that these beliefs that Zelensky is rhetoric, heroic rhetoric, | 西方一直无视 泽伦斯基是夸夸其谈的信念 |
| 58 | he keeps accumulating power. | 他不断积累力量。 |
| 59 | And I'm not afraid to say he keeps hollowing the very same people he claims to save. | 我不怕说,他一直 空洞着他声称要救的人。 |
| 60 | It's pretty strong to say, I know that. | 说来话长 我知道 |
| 61 | But I believe that, you know, people need to understand that if you want to support Ukraine, | 但我相信,你知道, 人们需要理解, 如果你想支持乌克兰, |
| 62 | the only way to support Ukraine today is to push for the peace deal. | 今天支持乌克兰的唯一办法是推动和平协定。 |
| 63 | This is the only way that Ukraine can survive because I believe we are on the verge of extinction. | 这是乌克兰能够生存的唯一方法,因为我相信我们濒临灭绝。 |
| 64 | Somebody is talking about two, three years of war anymore. | 有人在谈论两三年的战争 |
| 65 | It just like doesn't come up with numbers, with demography, with anything, with all those suffering that's happening in the country. | 这就像没有提出 数字,人口,任何东西, 和所有的痛苦 发生在这个国家。 |
| 66 | Tell me, no, no, no, thank you. | 告诉我,不,不,不,谢谢。 |
| 67 | Thank you for saying that. | 谢谢你这么说 |
| 68 | I agree. | и種 |
| 69 | I'm not Ukrainian, but I | 我不是乌克兰人,但我 |
| 70 | don't understand the point of this. | 不明白这一点。 |
| 71 | I mean, I have many questions about how and why it started, | 我的意思是,我有很多问题 关于它是如何和为什么开始, |
| 72 | but what's beyond question is Ukraine as a nation is being eliminated. | 但不容置疑的是,乌克兰作为一个国家正在被消灭。 |
| 73 | That's obvious to me. | 这对我来说是显而易见的。 |
| 74 | Biggest country in Europe. | 欧洲最大的国家。 |
| 75 | So it's a big deal. | 故曰大义. |
| 76 | What are, since you mentioned numbers, how many people live in Ukraine? | 既然你提到数字,乌克兰有多少人? |
| 77 | So when you started working for Zelensky, you worked for the government of Ukraine, in 2019, how many Ukrainians works for the government of Ukraine 2019 how many Ukrainian work for the government of the government of Ukraine 2019, how many Ukrainian, | 所以当你开始为泽连斯基工作时,你为乌克兰政府工作,在2019年,有多少乌克兰人为乌克兰政府工作 2019年,有多少乌克兰人为乌克兰政府工作 2019年,有多少乌克兰人为乌克兰政府工作 2019年,多少乌克兰人为乌克兰政府工作 |
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