德国极右翼政党赢得二战以来历史性选举胜利 | 2026.9.
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| 0:01 | German news magazine Der Spiegel has called him Germany's most dangerous man | 德国新闻杂志Der Spiegel称他为德国最危险的人 |
| 0:06 | and he and his party have just secured a stunning political victory. | 他和他的党刚刚取得了惊人的政治胜利。 |
| 0:11 | A triumphant | 一个胜利者 |
| 0:12 | Ulrich Siemen, 极右翼民主联盟主要候选人, | |
| 0:16 | party's historic victory in the eastern region of Saxony-Anhalt. | 党在萨克森-安哈尔特东部地区的历史性胜利. |
| 0:23 | The AFD took 44 | 联邦民主联盟拿了44块 |
| 0:24 | percent of the vote in Sunday's state election. | 在星期天的州选举中, |
| 0:27 | It's the closest the German | 这是最接近的德国人 |
| 0:28 | far-right has ever come to governing a state since World War II. | 自二战以来,极右派一直统治着一个国家。 |
| 0:33 | However, the AFD | 然而,联邦民主联盟 |
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| 1 | German news magazine Der Spiegel has called him Germany's most dangerous man | 德国新闻杂志Der Spiegel称他为德国最危险的人 |
| 2 | and he and his party have just secured a stunning political victory. | 他和他的党刚刚取得了惊人的政治胜利。 |
| 3 | A triumphant | 一个胜利者 |
| 4 | Ulrich Siemen, 极右翼民主联盟主要候选人, | |
| 5 | party's historic victory in the eastern region of Saxony-Anhalt. | 党在萨克森-安哈尔特东部地区的历史性胜利. |
| 6 | The AFD took 44 | 联邦民主联盟拿了44块 |
| 7 | percent of the vote in Sunday's state election. | 在星期天的州选举中, |
| 8 | It's the closest the German | 这是最接近的德国人 |
| 9 | far-right has ever come to governing a state since World War II. | 自二战以来,极右派一直统治着一个国家。 |
| 10 | However, the AFD | 然而,联邦民主联盟 |
| 11 | fell short of an absolute majority. | 没有达到绝对多数。 |
| 12 | It's not clear yet whether their plan, what | 还不清楚他们的计划,什么 |
| 13 | their plan will be in terms of potential coalition or mainstream parties rule | 他们的计划将是潜在的联合或主流政党统治 |
| 14 | out working with the AFD, which is classified as extremist by German | 与被德国列为极端主义分子的民主力量联盟合作 |
| 15 | intelligence. | 情报 |
| 16 | The country's Chancellor had this to say about the stunning | 这个国家的总理有这样的说法 关于惊人的 |
| 17 | results. | 结果。 |
| 18 | We are all deeply shocked. | 我们都深感震惊。 |
| 19 | This outcome was not expected in this form. | 这一结果预计不会以这种方式出现。 |
| 20 | We must of course accept it. | 我们当然必须接受。 |
| 21 | These are the rules of our democracy. | 这是我们民主的规则。 |
| 22 | But yesterday | 不过昨天 |
| 23 | something changed not only in Saxony-Anhalt but throughout Germany. | 不仅在萨克森-安哈尔特 整个德国都发生了一些变化 |
| 24 | This | 这个 |
| 25 | election result will have repercussions. | 选举结果将产生影响。 |
| 26 | It also has repercussions on the | 它还对 |
| 27 | international situation. | 国际形势。 |
| 28 | Just look at who sent congratulations yesterday. | 看看昨天是谁送的祝贺信 |
| 29 | Fred Bliken is in Berlin with more on the result will mean for Germany. | Fred Blifen在柏林 结果会更多 对德国来说 |
| 30 | But | 不过 |
| 31 | first of all, Frederick, I just want to talk about the sort of social and we | 首先,弗雷德里克,我只想 谈谈那种社交和我们 |
| 32 | 让Fred Blifen 更多关于这个故事。 | |
| 33 | One of the things that we have to keep | 我们必须保留的东西之一 |
| 34 | in mind is that the state that we're talking about, Saxony-Anhalt, is a very | 我们所说的州,萨克森 -安哈尔特,是一个非常 |
| 35 | small state. | 小州县. |
| 36 | It only has about 2.1 million people living in that place, which is far | 它只有大约210万人生活在那里,这是很远的。 |
| 37 | less, for instance, than the German capital of Berlin. | 比德国首都柏林少 |
| 38 | Nevertheless, the | 尽管如此, |
| 39 | significance seems to be very high and the Chancellor, Friedrich Mürz, is | 总理弗里德里希·穆尔茨 |
| 40 | absolutely right. | 绝对正确。 |
| 41 | There were people from around the world watching that election | 有来自世界各地的人观看选举 |
| 42 | and certainly a lot of folks from the MAGA movement then also commenting on it | 以及许多来自MAGA运动的人, |
| 43 | as well. | 临Τ |
| 44 | It actually started with US President Donald Trump who reposted the | 这其实是从美国总统唐纳德·特朗普(Donald Trump)开始的。 |
| 45 | election results on his Truth Social page. | 他的"真理社会"网页上有选举结果 |
| 46 | Then you had Elon Musk congratulating | 然后,你得到了伊隆穆斯克祝贺 |
| 47 | the AFD as well as several MAGA members of Congress, one of them being | 联邦民主联盟以及多位MAGA国会议员, |
| 48 | Anna Paulina Luna代表祝贺民主联盟说, | |
| 49 | were their friends. | 是他们的朋友 |
| 50 | And actually, I'm just seeing right now that the first | 其实,我只是看到 现在,第一个 |
| 51 | 校对:Soup | |
| 52 | negotiator with the United States, Kareel Dmitriev, himself posting several | 与美国谈判的Kareel Dmitriev亲自张贴了几篇文章。 |
| 53 | clapping emoji hands under that post. | 拍手在那个柱子下。 |
| 54 | And one of the things that we saw is that | 我们所看到的一件事就是 |
| 55 | there were some reactions coming in from Russia as well, by the way, with Kareel | 顺便说一句,俄罗斯也出现了一些反应 与卡雷尔 |
| 56 | Dmitriev himself reposting several stories about these elections and then | 德米特里耶夫自己重播了几则关于这些选举的故事, |
| 57 | also saying that Germany did need to change its course and that Friedrich Mürz | 也说德国确实需要改变方向 弗里德里希·缪尔茨 |
| 58 | has done a big disservice to Germany as far as the Russians were concerned. | 就俄国人而言,对德国造成了极大的损害。 |
| 59 | Of | 员额 |
| 60 | course, Germany now on a big standoff with Russia. | 现在德国与俄罗斯陷入了大僵局 |
| 61 | Friedrich Mertz himself, by | 弗里德里希·默兹本人 |
| 62 | the way, he did say that, of course, he and his political party, the Christian | 当然 他和他的政党基督教徒 |
| 63 | Democratic Union, take full responsibility for what happened, that | 民主联盟,对所发生的一切负全部责任 |
| 64 | they need to really re-evaluate the course that they're taking. | 他们需要重新评价他们正在走的路 |
| 65 | I think one | 我觉得 |
| 66 | of the things that we shouldn't underestimate watching all of this | 我们不应该低估的东西 看这一切 |
| 67 | internationally is the political shockwaves that have been sent to Berlin | 国际政治冲击波 已经发送到柏林 |
| 68 | through political Berlin by these election results in the state and | 通过政治柏林,这些选举结果在国家和 |
| 69 | Saxony and that it certainly has been the fact for an extended period of time | 萨克森州,这当然是 长期的事实 |
| 70 | that the alternative for Germany, the AFD, has been by far the highest polling | 德国联邦民主联盟的替代方案是迄今最高的民调 |
| 71 | party in all polls over the past couple of months. | 过去几个月里所有民意测验的政党 |
| 72 | And there are several other | 还有几个 |
| 73 | state elections that are coming up where they are polling very highly as well. | 州级选举即将到来 投票率也很高 |
| 74 | So | 这么说 |
| 75 | if you look at these state elections, you're absolutely right, it's not clear | 如果你看这些州选举, 你绝对是对的, 不清楚 |
| 76 | whether or not they're going to be able to get the governorship. | 他们能否获得州长职位? |
| 77 | Nevertheless, | 不过, |
| 78 | the fact that they did manage to get that large chunk of the vote, they feel | 事实上,他们确实能够 得到大量选票,他们觉得 |
| 79 | that they have the right to try and form a coalition and then try and push | 他们有权尝试组建一个联盟 然后试图推动 |
| 80 | through a lot of their policies. | 他们通过很多政策。 |
| 81 | And earlier today Ulrich Siegmund, who was | 今天早些时候 乌尔里希·西格蒙德 |
| 82 | their main candidate for this election in Saxony and not, he talked about those | 他们的主要候选人 在萨克森州 而不是,他谈到那些 |
| 83 | elections results and what they mean. | 选举结果及其含义。 |
| 84 | Here's what he said. | 他这么说的 |
| 85 | This is the best result any party has achieved in Saxony and Holt since 1990. | 这是自1990年以来任何政党在萨克森和霍尔特取得的最佳成果. |
| 86 | You really have to stop and appreciate that fact. | 你真的必须停止 并欣赏这个事实。 |
| 87 | So this result is, of course, a | 因此,这个结果,当然是 |
| 88 | So when he talks about being true to themselves, he's obviously talking about | 所以,当他谈论 对自己诚实, 他显然在谈论 |
| 89 | some of the fundamentals of AFD's policies and the most controversial of | AFD政策的一些基本原理和最有争议的 |
| 90 | those is something that they themselves called remigration, which essentially | 这些是他们自己称之为再移民的东西,基本上 |
| 91 | means mass deportations of undocumented immigrants here from Germany, also folks | 意味着大规模驱逐来自德国的无证移民,还有人们 |
| 92 | with criminal records as well. | 还有犯罪记录 |
| 93 | That definitely would be something impossible | 那绝对不可能 |
| 94 | to even push through with a lot of the other political parties here in this | 和这里的很多其他政党一起推过去 |
| 95 | country, but also something that is widely seen as being highly controversial. | 国家,但也有被广泛认为极具争议的东西. |
| 96 | And the other thing that's very important to the AFD as well would be | 另一件对联邦民主党也非常重要的事是 |
| 97 | stopping aid to Ukraine, for instance. | 例如,停止对乌克兰的援助。 |
| 98 | And of course there we have to keep in mind | 当然要记住 |
| 99 | that right now at this point in time, Germany is certainly one of the largest, | 此时此刻,德国当然是最大的, |
| 100 | if not the largest provider, both of military and financial aid for Ukraine. | 如果不是乌克兰最大的军事和财政援助提供者的话。 |
| 101 | So certainly a lot of policies up in question. | 肯定有很多政策在争论之中。 |
| 102 | Always have to keep in mind | 总是要记住 |
| 103 | it's a very small state we're talking about. | 我们说的州很小 |
| 104 | But I spoke to the party chairwoman | 但我跟党主席谈过了 |
| 105 | Elise Weidel说她相信这可能是个踏板 | |
| 106 | for the AFD to take power in Germany in the future. | 未来在德国掌权 |
| 107 | Joining us now from Berlin is Nina Hassar. | 现在从柏林加入我们的是尼娜·哈萨尔 |
| 108 | She is the chief political correspondent for the German news outlet DW. | 她是德国新闻网的首席政治记者。 |
| 109 | Thank you so much for being with us. | 非常感谢你和我们在一起 |
| 110 | Thank you. | 谢谢 |
| 111 | So Germany's far-right AFD party appears to have won landslide victory | 因此,德国极右的AFD党似乎取得了滑坡胜利. |
| 112 | in state elections in Saxony-Anhalt, but it's not yet clear if it will gain | 在萨克森-安哈尔特州选举中,但尚不清楚是否会有所收获 |
| 113 | enough support to govern. | 有足够的支持来治理。 |
| 114 | What is your assessment of what happened here | 你对这里发生的事有何评价? |
| 115 | and the message it sends Chancellor Friedrich Metz? | 以及它给弗里德里希·梅茨总理的信息? |
| 116 | Well, Rosemary, this is definitely a historic day for all of Germany, right? | 罗斯玛丽,今天绝对是整个德国的历史性一天,对吧? |
| 117 | I mean, we're talking about one of Germany's smallest regions. | 我们说的是德国最小的地区之一 |
| 118 | So roughly 1.7 million people went to the polls and that, of course, | 大约170万人参加了投票 当然 |
| 119 | in a country of more than 80 million people is not a big amount. | 在一个超过8 000万人的国家,数额不大。 |
| 120 | But it definitely was a breakthrough moment for the AFD. | 但它绝对是一个突破的时刻 对于AFD。 |
| 121 | And so that does have political consequences for the entire nation | 这确实会给全国带来政治后果 |
| 122 | and for Friedrich Metz's government here in Berlin, because the AFD has shown | 以及弗里德里希·梅兹在柏林的政府 因为联邦民主联盟已经显示 |
| 123 | that they're no longer a protest movement. | 他们不再是抗议运动 |
| 124 | They can dominate a state election and they will try to present this small | 他们可以主导州选举 他们将尝试展示这个小 |
| 125 | state of Saxony-Anhalt as a rehearsal for further gains in eastern Germany | 萨克森-安哈尔特州作为德国东部进一步收获的排练 |
| 126 | in particular, but ultimately also for the federal election in 2029. | 特别是,但最终也是为了2029年的联邦选举。 |
| 127 | And of course, this is definitely a very big test for the conservatives now. | 当然,这对保守派来说 肯定是一个很大的考验。 |
| 128 | Right. | 对 |
| 129 | But coalition building is complicated in Germany, isn't it? | 但联盟建筑在德国是复杂的,不是吗? |
| 130 | So the far-right AFD party might not get to govern. | 因此极右翼的AFD党可能无法执政. |
| 131 | But if it does, Erlich Sigmund is the man trying to lead Saxony-Anhalt. | 但如果真的如此,埃尔利希·西格蒙德就是试图领导萨克森-安哈尔特的人. |
| 132 | He wants a Germany first policy, better relations with Russia to cut support | 他想要德国的第一政策,更好的关系 削减支持 |
| 133 | to Ukraine, to quit the euro and mass deportation of undocumented immigrants. | 并大规模驱逐无证移民。 |
| 134 | How likely is it that he will be able to govern this state | 他能管理这个国家的可能性有多大? |
| 135 | or at least push most of those policies? | 或者至少推动大多数这些政策? |
| 136 | Well, Germany's electoral system is not, you said it, | 嗯,德国的选举制度 不是,你说, |
| 137 | it's not a first past the post system. | 这不是第一次通过邮政系统。 |
| 138 | So, you know, traditionally, even if you come out strongest force, | 所以,你知道,传统上, 即使你拿出最强的力量, |
| 139 | you do need a coalition partner to be in government | 你确实需要一个联盟伙伴来当政府 |
| 140 | if you don't win the absolute majority. | 如果你不赢得绝对多数。 |
| 141 | And the AFD has not won the absolute majority here. | 联邦民主联盟没有在这里获得绝对多数。 |
| 142 | Yes, definitely first force in those elections, | 是的,在那些选举中绝对是第一支部队, |
| 143 | but they do need partners to actually dominate politics in the regional parliament. | 但他们确实需要合作伙伴 来控制地区议会的政治 |
| 144 | So all the traditional parties of the centre have ruled out | 中心的传统政党都排除了 |
| 145 | collaborating with the AFD because they argue, rightly as you said, | 和AFD合作,因为他们争吵,正如你说的, |
| 146 | this is a particularly radical chapter of an already considered | 这是一个特别激进的章节 一个已经考虑过 |
| 147 | far-right political party here in Germany. | 德国的极右政党 |
| 148 | This is a political chapter that is officially legally | 这是一个政治篇章,正式合法 |
| 149 | describable as right-wing extremist where leading figures have made racist, | 被贬为右翼极端主义分子,当主要人物使种族主义, |
| 150 | Islamophobic, anti-Semitic statements and where the intelligence services | 仇视伊斯兰教、反犹太言论和情报部门在哪里 |
| 151 | have found that elements of the party and its supporters are working towards | 发现该党的分子及其支持者正致力于 |
| 152 | abolishing Germany's representative democracy and working against minorities. | 废除德国的代表性民主制,努力反对少数民族. |
| 153 | And that is, of course, illegal. | 当然,这是非法的。 |
| 154 | So this is a tremendous challenge. | 因此,这是一个巨大的挑战。 |
| 155 | This verdict was confirmed by independent courts. | 独立法院确认了这一判决。 |
| 156 | So it's not just, as the AFD sometimes paints it, | 所以,这不仅仅是, 因为AFD有时画它, |
| 157 | an intelligence service that is under the authority of an interior minister. | 由内务部长领导的情报部门 |
| 158 | The AFD repeatedly claims that it's all the other political parties | 民主力量联盟一再声称是其他政党 |
| 159 | using their institutions to prevent the AFD from rising to power. | 利用他们的机构阻止民主力量联盟上台。 |
| 160 | But no, this was confirmed by an independent court. | 但是没有,这一点得到了独立法院的确认。 |
| 161 | So what the conservatives now really have to find out, | 所以现在的保守派 真正需要知道, |
| 162 | whether they can stay strong, not run into headless chicken mode | 能不能保持强壮,不会遇到无头鸡模式 |
| 163 | and stay disciplined because, of course, the vast majority of people in Saxony-Anhalt | 并保持纪律,因为,当然, 绝大多数人 在萨克森-安哈尔特 |
| 164 | also agreed to the statement that if the government here in Berlin | 还同意声明 如果柏林政府 |
| 165 | was doing a better job, then the AFD wouldn't be so strong. | 做一个更好的工作, 那么AFD不会这么强大。 |
| 166 | So a lot of things now for Friedrich Metz and his coalition partner, | 弗里德里希·梅兹和他的联盟伙伴们现在有很多事情要做 |
| 167 | the SPD, to sit down about and discuss. | 社民党,坐下来讨论 |
| 168 | And while protests are popping up in cities across Germany, | 当德国各地的城市出现抗议活动时, |
| 169 | how might this shift to the far right in Saxony-Anhalt | 在萨克森-安哈尔特,这种变化会怎样? |
| 170 | shape the rest of Germany and federal elections in 2029 that you mentioned? | 2029年的联邦选举? |
| 171 | Well, make no mistake, Rosemary, | 好吧,没有错误,罗斯玛丽, |
| 172 | we're definitely seeing the entire country's debate shifting to the right. | 我们确实看到整个国家的辩论转向了右翼。 |
| 173 | Now, just how far right is going to be a matter of | 现在,权利到底会有多远 |
| 174 | just how disciplined the other political parties can be, | 以及其他政党的纪律如何 |
| 175 | whether they can keep their calm, | 他们能否保持冷静, |
| 176 | whether they can continue to have, you know, consensus-built politics | 是否他们可以继续,你知道, 协商一致建立的政治 |
| 177 | and policies that they push through in all the other regions here in Germany. | 以及他们在德国其他地区推行的政策 |
| 178 | But yes, we saw Donald Trump, the US president, | 是的,我们看到美国总统唐纳德·特朗普 |
| 179 | post the outcomes of the forecast yesterday | 发布昨天的预测结果 |
| 180 | when the first results were published on Saxony-Anhalt. | 在萨克森-安哈尔特上公布第一批结果时. |
| 181 | The US president talking about a small region in Germany, | 美国总统谈到德国的一个小地区, |
| 182 | that just really does tell you everything you need to know. | 那真的告诉你所有你需要知道的 |
| 183 | But you have to keep in mind the AFD is considered even too extreme | 但你必须记住,AFD甚至被认为太极端了 |
| 184 | by some of Europe's most right-wing parties to collaborate with. | 被欧洲一些最右翼的政党合作。 |
| 185 | Marine Le Pen in France ruled out collaborating with them, | 法国的勒庞海军陆战队排除了与他们合作 |
| 186 | calling them too radical. | 说他们太激进了 |
| 187 | We've got similar messages also from people in Italy. | 我们从意大利也有类似的消息 |
| 188 | And you do have links with ethnocentrist forces across the world. | 你确实与世界各地的民族中心主义势力有联系。 |
| 189 | You've got a very white dominant debate there. | 你有一个非常白人主导性的辩论。 |
| 190 | So these voices are simply going to get louder here in Germany. | 所以这些声音在德国会越来越响亮。 |
| 191 | Nina Hazard),DW首席政治通讯员. | |
| 192 | Thank you so much for your time. | 非常感谢你的时间。 |
| 193 | Appreciate it. | 谢谢 |
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